I graduated from my SMP w/ a 3.87 and a 508 MCAT. Got waitlisted after the "Linkage" Interview. Im now applying to around 20 MD schools and hoping to get in somewhere.
@@fdxxs1 Hey giving an Update here. I ended up applying only to 9 schools due to financial reasons (these applications are expensive AF). I got an interview to 3 places and got offered and ended up waitlisted. I then got offered a conditional acceptance to one of the schools as long as I complete a state funnded program (AMSNY Program). I am now attending this program, its tuition free and I get ~2.1k/m living expenses stipend. I just need to maintain a B in order to get into the school. I guess I eff'd up really bad in ugrad that I still need to proof myself, but at least this other program is tuition free and prepares me for med school.
@@fdxxs1 I got an update. I ended up applying to 9 med schools due to financial strain. Interviewed at 3 and got a partial acceptance to 1. Im now doing a post-bac for that 1 school with conditional acceptance. At least its tuition free and I get a living stipend. I just need to maintain a B in order to keep my spot at this school. I guess my 3.87 SMP gpa was not good enough for my low uGrad gpa, but at least I got the chance to prove myself.
Love it; thank you for this advice and all your advice!! I have started seeing that from researching these programs and I wonder why these people want to waste more time and money if they already have these types of stats.
Unless you did absolutely terrible in the SMP, I would never advise anyone go the Carribean route, and n=1 for your example. However, the carribean attrition rates currently hover around 40-50% with even more abysmal match rates for students trying to match in the U.S. if someone did bad on their SMP, they would do worse at a Carribean Medical school. I would really caution anyone taking this advice specifically. If your MCAT is what hurt you retake the MCAT. If your GPA is still low, but you did well in your SMP, reach out to schools for advising. You would be surprised how many other pathways there are to medical school!
I don’t understand why you think this. I want to get into medical school and I am Incredibly passionate. However, in compiling information about programs, most of the average GPAs are 3.7, 3.6 minimum. How am I with a 3.3-3.4 gpa supposed to get in with that? I feel like I can’t do anything but attempt an SMP. I feel like there’s no way I could make it into even a DO program. I’m planning on taking the mcat this summer
If your science gpa is a 3.4 and you get a good mcat then you have a shot. Keep in mind the most of the time these numbers are just averages. They take people below and above them.
Hey Michael, Here in US Med schools, I understand your point in stressing out in getting good GPA and MCAT scores for being Canadians, What about activities do you need, Being a Canadian and studying PreMed in US already.
Same boat my man. Same boat. But I heard straight from the coordinator that if you have both a good gpa and science gpa then your in. This is from the USF SMP program that I applied.
Bro if my cGPA is 3.1 but my sGPA is 3.3 and MCAT will be at least 505 (I took AAMC FL1 today and got a 505), do you think I could get straight into DO school? If it helps, I'm a URM
How do you accurately calculate your gpa as the medical school would? I’m wondering where I stand. I’m almost finished with my bachelors program, and my bachelors program gpa is currently 4.0. My associates degree is in nursing, so will they use my nursing courses as part of my science gpa? I don’t want to take a special masters program if I don’t need to.
You’ll have a cumulative gpa and a science gpa. You science gpa consists of all science classes you’ve taken as an undergrad student including math. If you’d like some more personalized help feel free to come talk to me through Facebook.
I would say it depends on the program, and it depends on how you define “providing clinical experience.” I’d venture to say that most SMPs don’t have clinical experience directly incorporated in their coursework, but the SMP I’m in has close relationships with several departments in our main hospital, so we can reach out to them and have preference in terms of shadowing opportunities.
Damn! Honestly you’re the best advisor I’ve seen so far lol. And I’ve seen quite a few videos on youtube
Lol thanks. Happy to help.
I graduated from my SMP w/ a 3.87 and a 508 MCAT. Got waitlisted after the "Linkage" Interview. Im now applying to around 20 MD schools and hoping to get in somewhere.
Good luck
UPDATE?!?!?!!?
@@fdxxs1 Hey giving an Update here. I ended up applying only to 9 schools due to financial reasons (these applications are expensive AF). I got an interview to 3 places and got offered and ended up waitlisted. I then got offered a conditional acceptance to one of the schools as long as I complete a state funnded program (AMSNY Program). I am now attending this program, its tuition free and I get ~2.1k/m living expenses stipend. I just need to maintain a B in order to get into the school. I guess I eff'd up really bad in ugrad that I still need to proof myself, but at least this other program is tuition free and prepares me for med school.
@@fdxxs1 I got an update. I ended up applying to 9 med schools due to financial strain. Interviewed at 3 and got a partial acceptance to 1. Im now doing a post-bac for that 1 school with conditional acceptance. At least its tuition free and I get a living stipend. I just need to maintain a B in order to keep my spot at this school. I guess my 3.87 SMP gpa was not good enough for my low uGrad gpa, but at least I got the chance to prove myself.
@@samgas1219what school is it? It sounds like UCLA RAP?
Love it; thank you for this advice and all your advice!! I have started seeing that from researching these programs and I wonder why these people want to waste more time and money if they already have these types of stats.
Exactly
Unless you did absolutely terrible in the SMP, I would never advise anyone go the Carribean route, and n=1 for your example. However, the carribean attrition rates currently hover around 40-50% with even more abysmal match rates for students trying to match in the U.S. if someone did bad on their SMP, they would do worse at a Carribean Medical school. I would really caution anyone taking this advice specifically. If your MCAT is what hurt you retake the MCAT. If your GPA is still low, but you did well in your SMP, reach out to schools for advising. You would be surprised how many other pathways there are to medical school!
I don’t understand why you think this. I want to get into medical school and I am Incredibly passionate. However, in compiling information about programs, most of the average GPAs are 3.7, 3.6 minimum. How am I with a 3.3-3.4 gpa supposed to get in with that? I feel like I can’t do anything but attempt an SMP. I feel like there’s no way I could make it into even a DO program. I’m planning on taking the mcat this summer
If your science gpa is a 3.4 and you get a good mcat then you have a shot. Keep in mind the most of the time these numbers are just averages. They take people below and above them.
Hey Michael, Here in US Med schools, I understand your point in stressing out in getting good GPA and MCAT scores for being Canadians, What about activities do you need, Being a Canadian and studying PreMed in US already.
The extracurriculars you’ll need are patient care experience, volunteering, leadership, and research if you’re interested in that.
thank you for this!!!
You’re welcome
Hey Michael, should I consider SMP if my MCAT is low? I have a 3.88 GPA and my sGPA is 3.6. The only blaring issue in my application is my MCAT score.
Only as a last resort. Retake the mcat first.
@@ERdoctorMike I have taken the MCAT 3 times and the highest I got was a 495
Id apply to Med school and see if you can get lucky. I offer advising through my Facebook page Med School Mentor if you want to discuss this more.
Same boat my man. Same boat. But I heard straight from the coordinator that if you have both a good gpa and science gpa then your in. This is from the USF SMP program that I applied.
Apply here to the USF one. Its the cheapest and their MCAT is 493. Dude we can be study buddies if you get in.
Bro if my cGPA is 3.1 but my sGPA is 3.3 and MCAT will be at least 505 (I took AAMC FL1 today and got a 505), do you think I could get straight into DO school? If it helps, I'm a URM
It’s definitely possible. But honestly the admissions process is a crap shoot so it always takes a good amount of luck.
How do you accurately calculate your gpa as the medical school would? I’m wondering where I stand. I’m almost finished with my bachelors program, and my bachelors program gpa is currently 4.0. My associates degree is in nursing, so will they use my nursing courses as part of my science gpa? I don’t want to take a special masters program if I don’t need to.
You’ll have a cumulative gpa and a science gpa. You science gpa consists of all science classes you’ve taken as an undergrad student including math. If you’d like some more personalized help feel free to come talk to me through Facebook.
Can I go to a DO school's post-bacc or special masters program and then go on to attend an MD school?
Absolutely
You should talk about low mcat solutions
What if you have a very good mcat score but a below 3.0 gpa? Will these programs still consider you or do you think it's not worth applying?
Most of them have a min gpa of 3.0. You’ll have to check their mcat stats and maybe contact admissions.
For anyone curious, I emailed some of the MD admissions and they are willing to consider your app if you have an exceptional mcat score!
Im the opposite. Good gpa but 3 points below the MCAT score cutoff of 493.
Pls do Special masters program provide clinical experience for students?
The do not. You need all of that before applying
Duke University SMP provides clinical experience for their students as part of their program.
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I would say it depends on the program, and it depends on how you define “providing clinical experience.” I’d venture to say that most SMPs don’t have clinical experience directly incorporated in their coursework, but the SMP I’m in has close relationships with several departments in our main hospital, so we can reach out to them and have preference in terms of shadowing opportunities.