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The First People To Conquer The Alps' Deadliest Mountain | Climbing For The Fatherland | Timeline
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2021
- One mountain face in particular came to be seen as the Last Great Problem: the vast, brooding Eiger Nordwand in Switzerland's Bernese Oberland. The world's finest climbers were lured to its foot - and perished in the merciless world of ice and storm that awaited them above. Then in 1938 an Austro-German team conquered the face amid bitter accusations that they were climbing for Hitler.
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My father died climbing in the Austrian Alps in early August of 1969. The guide slipped and all three on the rope died. I would have been with him except Uncle Sam sent me to Vietnam. My father and I had climbed the Matterhorn in August of 1965. Then we had gone on to Mt Blanc. We reached the Berg Hut near the summit. My dad had a flight to catch and the weather held up the summit climb. I tried to convenience him to forgo the flight back and stay and finish but he returned and we, I and a climber who later died on Mt Everest, climbed to the summit a few days later. My father would be alive if he’d stayed as he died while preparing to summit Mt Blanc. Sad story but I was safer in Vietnam!
What branch of the military were you in?
Sorry for ur loss . Sad but interesting story
So sorry sir he sounds like awesome Dad. Thank you for your service
Sounds great! Not every father can afford classical mountaineering for himself and his son. You have lived an interesting life!
I am so glad you lived to come back from Vietnam and have continued the legacy of your father. 👍
While watching this documentary, I'm even more awestruck of Ueli Steck's astounding 2 hour 22 minute climb of the Eiger north face in 2015. RIP Ueli.
Most fascinating and weird mix of nature and propaganda on TIMELINE I have ever seen. No wonder the comment section is starting it out so cynical and negative. Hits a central nerve.
Yes Kim Jong Ill was the first to climb.
timeline is nothing but bad british propaganda. hits a cenral nerve? it doesnt its british....
Timeline and propaganda are well acquainted.
Every mass media is propaganda.
Everyone knows Clint Eastwood was the first to climb the North face.. George Kennedy met him at the top! ;)
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Rubbish...it was chuck Norris.
@ Pelican yep 👍 but Kennedy got to him through the railway vent/port/ window 😉
Nope..was Chuck Norris and the Delta Force
That was a great movie!
Why do I feel this was all over the place?
Propaganda + mountaineering history
Because it is all over the place, its really bad
It’s not, if you watch it again
Those mountain climbers are amazing, but the rescuers are incredible!
They fly in by helo... or climb out a window on the high face (on side of tram tracks) and use loads of gear... yes, fair play to them... but like come on... the climbers are the ones grabbing life by the balls...
@@SchmozzleGTO There must be a better handhold than that.
It's unfair to judge people of the past with the morals of today. Back when he climbed he was just congratulated by a politician, that is it, it's looking back with our morality today and judging him for things he was not aware of.
Someone from our province just died in an avalanche snowboarding below the Matterhorn. Apparently a family of 5 was killed this year too while just cross-country skiing and a 6th person was missing as well. Quite a deadly place.
I can understand that climbing these mountains is a challenge of mankind’s drive, desire & physical condition.
... but to me, it is more of playing Swiss Roulette with a double action, semi-automatic pistol.
You may have a 5 in 6 chance of survival with Russian Roulette, but you have less than 1-in-16 with this mountain, a Glock or a Sig Sauer.
7 Years in Tibet shows the shedding of ego for Mr. Harrer...a true full circle 🏔🌌
@@JB-rt4mx His book is another example of a literary work that was not done justice to by the subsequent movie.
Love the old footage.
What the heck does the climbing of Eiger has to do with the reunification of Germany and Austria under National *Socialism?* really... come off it already! I didn't learn anything about the first people who climbed Eiger, so the title is misleading. The whole thing doesn't make any sense.
Well, you have to "listen with intent to understand" and you will. Whether you agree or not is your *"free choice",* but then "that is the point, *having the opportunity to have the facts, in order to make a choice."*
When we get so wrapped up in a belief, we don't have a full spectrum of vision, and therefore, don't see the greater pieces that form the whole. It requires being 'Conscious in Thought" + "applying the Higher Mind".
There we manage our Lower/Ego Mind and enjoy a greater perspective of Mature Thought and Vision of the greater reality.
A subject I've studied and practice, note I say practice, as I've yet to reach what I would define as Mastery. There Wisdom resides.
Beth
Tennessee, USA
Read the white spider. It's an excellent book about the first climber to do it and a few stories about those that died trying.
Nice one have a Blessed Sunday morning 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤
What a truly bizarre "documentary."
Ngl the thread of the narrative is all over the place. I enjoyed the actual climbing bits. The history parts were interesting but strangely interspersed throughout. Probably should have been a separate show *TRIGGER WARNING DEATH/Spoiler alert* people actually died during the climbing parts of the documentary, thankfully nothing graphic.
Perspective ...
Well, you have to "listen with intent to understand" and you will. Whether you agree or not is your *"free choice",* but then "that is the point, *having the opportunity to have the facts, in order to make a choice."*
When we get so wrapped up in a belief, we don't have a full spectrum of vision, and therefore, don't see the greater pieces that form the whole. It requires being 'Conscious in Thought" + "applying the Higher Mind".
There we manage our Lower/Ego Mind and enjoy a greater perspective of Mature Thought and Vision of the greater reality.
A subject I've studied and practice, note I say practice, as I've yet to reach what I would define as Mastery. There Wisdom resides.
Beth
Tennessee, USA
@@bethbartlett5692 why you keep copy and pasting the same thing over and over?!?
*His statement @ **48:43** --> nails the Fact.*
I would like to know more about the music used in the film
Great documentary!!!
Clint Eastwood directed a good movie about climbing this mountain...scenery was fantastic
Eiger Sanction
@@markakin3742 i went to the theater in 1975
Great film. Eastwood did his own climbing in his film The Eiger Sanction. There was a climbing death during the filming.
Rodney Whitaker, who authored "The Eiger Sanction" under the pen name Trevanian, did not think much of the movie, calling it "vapid." This book, as well as everything else he wrote, is a great read.
The movie The North Face was much better imho.
The 1938 climbing group weren't climbing "fot the Fatherland". They climbed the Eiger north face for themselves, and amost died doing it. Did none of your crew read "The White Spider"? Stop trying to tie every historical German or Austrian event or individual to national socialism.
It's a good book to read
Timeline has a documentary about Arminius and the battle in the Teutoburger Forest and managed to insinuate that because of that battle (in the year 9 a.d.), Arminius laid the groundwork for national socialism. They just can't help themselves.
Great 2008 movie about it called "North Face" .
I think that's about the 36' tragedy.
Where can someone watch that?
Has not a thing to do with where you come from, when the mountain is calling you 🤗
Nicely told story, but the awful background music made me quit early. Sorry.
I too can't finish this. It's a load of rubbish. Manufactured drama, errors, inferences and trashing of historical figures and events. What a wasted effort. If you want to know about climbing the Eiger, find another film.
The whole thing should be watched before an assessment. Sad that people only want to hear their desired narrative and quickly too.
i agree.......no one has patience to read anymore, or so it would seem
Correct, you have to "listen with intent to understand" and you will. Whether you agree or not is your *"free choice",* but then "that is the point, *having the opportunity to have the facts, in order to make a choice."*
When we get so wrapped up in a belief, we don't have a full spectrum of vision, and therefore, don't see the greater pieces that form the whole. It requires being 'Conscious in Thought" + "applying the Higher Mind".
There we manage our Lower/Ego Mind and enjoy a greater perspective of Mature Thought and Vision of the greater reality.
A subject I've studied and practice, note I say practice, as I've yet to reach what I would define as Mastery. There Wisdom resides.
Beth
Tennessee, USA
If you want to see the ULTIMATE climb of Eiger. See the Swiss Machine Ueli: ua-cam.com/video/NfpYNr7es0Y/v-deo.html
Yeah he died in the Himalaya. He was an incredible climber.
There’s lots of scholarship about fascism and sport, masculinity etc. I hoped this would get into that. It was wildly disjointed but I love a mountaineering doc that’s about more than the climb.
Instead of climbing to the tops of mountains, people should embrace climbing to the base. Cheaper, safer, more efficient, realistic goal-setting, more environmentally friendly.
You know who never gets credit? The CAMERA PEOPLE!
Alpanians. They were once a great civilization. The mountains removed all remnants of them from earth as they grew higher and snowier. I heard about it on the internet. Yep.
ah, the host got his pilot's license, at least that's what i think🤭
The captions are very poor and wrong in many places! It's obvious they were not done by a translator, but a computer! And there are no captions at all where they are most needed.
Damn, Tyrion Lannister after being queens hand.
The Bolsheviks in Russia were also into mountaineering in a big way. It was considered a manly thing to do. So I'm guessing all it really means is mountaineering was a popular sport in those days. More so than today.
Soviet people were into mountaineering because it's part of human nature. I don't really think the political system has much to do with it.
There was big propaganda associated with climbing in Soviet states as well., it grabbed headlines.
Who and how are these climbers being filmed?
18:16 scary dude
This is how to make a interesting story boring.
The "pants dude" should keep his mug out of the videos.. and stop taking credit for these programs too.
The awful countdown tone played at intervals was tortuous, had to stop watching.
Dudes nosehair at 32:00 is out of control. Need to braid it or cut it.
So much film wasted on watching tourists and following some guy around. Maybe some context first, so I know why we are following an author or radio show host. I wish this was shorter or had more actually alpine climbing. Too much fluff. Guy boards train, footage of train down track for 20 sec. Why?
When was this made?
Judging by hair length, sideburns & clothes, planes & airport conveyors, my guess is early-mid 2ooo’s buy film clipping from ‘3os, mid-late ‘7os & early-mid ‘8os.
1989 is my guess that's when yorg heider was made head of the Fpo in carinthia
@@wmeemw994 Searching with Google for "Climbing for the Fatherland" turns up 2001 directed by Kevin Sim
@@professorsogol5824 Yeah, Harrer died in 06, so that sounds about right.
Timeline first came on TV in 1989 but ran for years.
Boring documentary. Interesting topic but boring badly edited documentary
Does everything have to be a Natzi conspiracy theory? Just talk about climbing for christ sake.
the sad part is the helicopter fuel wasted for search and rescue
Had to abort at 14:25 due to boredom.
Perhaps due to a short attention span?
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pretty lame and convoluted story telling
I'm going to watch something else. I am creeping myself put cause I think its hilarious when they fall off the mountain.
Did they show the men falling ? Or just the body from the four-person 1936 fall ?
@Scorpions Oracle, I am not sure i understand you correctly, but if you are finding it hilarious that they are falling, you should seek help
If you think those two lads dying towards the end is "hilarious" then you're one sick puppy.
@@Mike-xh8fl I mean read things clearly before you just open your mouth..
Also I did say I was going to watch something else because yes it was creeping me out
@@MagdaleneDivine I think the most important thing g you said was that you found it hilarious that those two guys fell off the mountain and died. That's the really creepy thing.
You don't know who or when someone climbed that mountain. Pretentious bs.
white people are great
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@@jimmcclain8677 woooooosh
@@griffon2-6 Were you being sarcastic or not?
@@jimmcclain8677 Nope, white people are great. You disagree? (and still missing the point :-)
@@griffon2-6 I agree with your original statement. Given some of the other comments here, I figured you were being sarcastic.
Min 14.00 lol loses fell
There is something European about this film that is really irritating.
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