Titanic History/What if the watertight doors had been left open?

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  • @GarrettWatts
    @GarrettWatts 3 роки тому +589

    Dude your little Titanic model is great! The one that you’re holding! Where on earth did you find that?!

    • @Person-by6vd
      @Person-by6vd 3 роки тому +10

      hi garret !

    • @alexnmott
      @alexnmott 3 роки тому +25

      I think it’s a 1/700 model by either Revell or Academy

    • @Person-by6vd
      @Person-by6vd 3 роки тому +22

      @@alexnmott wait it looks like a model from titanic honour and glory it’s quite small

    • @alexnmott
      @alexnmott 3 роки тому +2

      @@Person-by6vd i agree!

    • @mementomorgan6721
      @mementomorgan6721 3 роки тому +3

      Garrett!!

  • @NickB1121
    @NickB1121 2 роки тому +313

    They did a test with a large Titanic model years back. They found the ship would've stayed level for quite some time, but began to list badly after an hour. Ship ended up sinking roughly an hour sooner.

    • @WalterModel45
      @WalterModel45 Рік тому +33

      Its obvius
      If you let the water let in without any barrier, you are just making the sinking easier

    • @Televroszky2144
      @Televroszky2144 Рік тому

      where_

    • @BHuang92
      @BHuang92 Рік тому +4

      Which was a bit odd how Titanic sank as compared to other liners that capsized most of the time.

    • @taylormorgan4678
      @taylormorgan4678 Рік тому

      After re-watching your video I was wondering what if you and Ocean liner designs found yalls self back in time Around 1903 and if the both of you had all of the info and the prof would the both of you would help H&W to make both Olympic and Titanic and britannic safer and last alot longer how would yall do it

    • @Orly90
      @Orly90 Рік тому +1

      @@BHuang92that’s thanks to the offset of weight of the coal that was on the port side

  • @tonybrant1919
    @tonybrant1919 3 роки тому +12

    I absolutely love this kind of information. I've always been fascinated with that sinking. In fact, as a small child living in Allendale County, SC, I once met a man in an old abandoned schoolhouse we used to play in. He was painting a large piece of plywood with round holes in it. These plywood pieces were used when the local watermelon crop ripened to block the doors on the railroad boxcars. The doors would be left open as there was no cooled railcars. He told me that he was a Titanic survivor as a child. This was around 1961 or so. My closest contact with a real survivor and at the time, I didn't realize how rare that meeting was. Just a little tidbit of my Titanic memories I will never forget. After all, it was a "Night to Remember" as in the 1st movie in 1958 or so.

    • @drunkstormtroopr3627
      @drunkstormtroopr3627 Рік тому +1

      you once met a man in an old abandoned school house? sounds like a horror movie

  • @jpt5135
    @jpt5135 3 роки тому +125

    8:50
    "Water doesn't flow uphill."
    Romans: Is that a challenge?

    • @finlaymorgan9365
      @finlaymorgan9365 3 роки тому +5

      What did the Romans ever do for us?

    • @bayou_angler87
      @bayou_angler87 3 роки тому +16

      @@finlaymorgan9365 Google romans and their engineering in aqueducts and water transportation.

    • @tazdevil875
      @tazdevil875 3 роки тому +30

      @@finlaymorgan9365 ... lol :-) “All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

    • @wolf310ii
      @wolf310ii 2 роки тому +2

      @@tazdevil875 Peace ;)
      @All without the common knowledge to get the joke, go and watch Monty Pythons Life of Brian.

    • @SMarie-zk9oj
      @SMarie-zk9oj 5 місяців тому

      @@finlaymorgan9365 When you don’t learn any history besides the Titanic:

  • @louk231
    @louk231 2 роки тому +13

    Your analysis videos are very much appreciated. I still remember before Robert Ballard discovered the wreck of the Titanic in 1985 how we Titanic folks were completely mesmerized by the unknown . It hadn't been seen since the sinking. How did it hit the bottom of the ocean? Where had it settled? Here we are after the discovery of the wreck with the ability to answer so many of the questions that plagued our imaginations for so long after the sinking until 1985. You are so very thorough in your videos of this horrible event. Thanks for taking the time to do so....

    • @crispyyrosee
      @crispyyrosee Рік тому

      I'd have loved to have been alive during the initial discovery of the wreck. I can only imagine how invigorating it was for every Titaniac around the world.

  • @BelleAim
    @BelleAim 3 роки тому +22

    Great video! Loved hearing your theories and I actually didn’t know about the crew moving the coal over to the other side! It’s crazy how much we can figure out about the whole situation just based on survivor reports

  • @clubalice
    @clubalice 3 роки тому +123

    Vid idea: How exactly was maritime law / legislation changed after the Titanic disaster?

    • @IIGrayfoxII
      @IIGrayfoxII 3 роки тому +35

      Some changes.
      Ice Patrols in the Atlantic passage between New York and Southhampton
      A radio operator must be at the post 24/7 so distress calls can be heard by anyone and everyone, after all the california which was not too far off, the radio operator went to bed so they couldn't help.
      Most likely taking ice warnings more seriously and slowing down when sailing through ice fields
      There must be enough life boats for all passengers.

    • @dixiefish0173
      @dixiefish0173 3 роки тому +4

      @@IIGrayfoxII also it was common practice cuz ships of the time period had to keep a schedule like trains do so going full speed was normal & trains still do that today FYI

    • @noahhess4955
      @noahhess4955 3 роки тому +6

      @@dixiefish0173 good thing you can’t sink a train right?😂

    • @IIGrayfoxII
      @IIGrayfoxII 3 роки тому +5

      @@dixiefish0173 The faster they got to port the faster another ship load of passengers could get onboard, true.
      But after Titanic things started to change.

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 3 роки тому +3

      Unless over or through a bridge or close to any body of water... I’d hope not

  • @imtheone470
    @imtheone470 3 роки тому +189

    You should do a “What if Rose would’ve let Jack on that damn door”

    • @sarcasticsid5589
      @sarcasticsid5589 3 роки тому +4

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @DarkProtector96
      @DarkProtector96 3 роки тому +28

      Mythbusters tested it yes they both could've fit BUT the door would've floated deeper in the water so they both would've froze because they both would've still been in the water 😕

    • @Erickesk1
      @Erickesk1 3 роки тому +1

      Lol

    • @matthewmosier8439
      @matthewmosier8439 3 роки тому +5

      @@DarkProtector96 One of the things that I find intriguing is that more people didn't seem to incorporate doors, etc. into their escape plans. I'm assuming that the average person thought the ship wouldn't actually sink until it was too late to come up with a better plan. I was a ships carpenter (a profession which is being replaced with a maintenance style job title, these days) and I had a detailed plan in my mind for what I'd do if the ship I worked on sank and no lifeboats or life rafts were available.

    • @DarkProtector96
      @DarkProtector96 3 роки тому +3

      @@matthewmosier8439 I've thought of that too. I believe they didn't think it'd actually sink because in the beginning even staff weren't filling the life boats to the capacity they could hold.

  • @RichieD_21
    @RichieD_21 3 роки тому +50

    When you mention a previous video you should put a pop up link to it in the top corner. It would be real convenient because you aren't specific when you say you made a video addressing it in the past and it would also drive additional traffic to your older videos. Just a thought

    • @bettyjane6684
      @bettyjane6684 3 роки тому

      Yes - as. Other YT’s do that

    • @itsMrNoble
      @itsMrNoble 3 роки тому

      @@bettyjane6684 You are so rude.

  • @brettroberts990
    @brettroberts990 3 роки тому +2

    It never ceases to amaze me that I learn something new every time I watch something about the titanic. Great job I learned a lot.

  • @gc7820
    @gc7820 3 роки тому +7

    About 20 years ago for a TV show I saw here in the UK they did an experiment with a scale model as it was postulated by many for years that it would sink slower on an even keel. They worked out that titanic would’ve lasted just under an hour and fallen over on its starboard side then sunk like a stone killing nearly everyone onboard like you said.

  • @Brennan-sb3ul
    @Brennan-sb3ul 3 роки тому +194

    Vid idea: what if the titanic wasn’t the largest ship and the grandest ship in the world when she sank, would that have changed the sea laws like it did when it happened. Also what if it wasn’t on its maiden voyage when it happened?! Would that have made the world view the disaster as “just another shipwreck” or would it still be as famous?

    • @animedisneygirl6391
      @animedisneygirl6391 3 роки тому +12

      I wanna see a video about this.

    • @TheMasterfulcreator
      @TheMasterfulcreator 3 роки тому +10

      It already wasn't considered the largest, grandest ship in the world right? In reality the Olympic had already stolen it's thunder as I was led to believe.

    • @thetireless1812
      @thetireless1812 3 роки тому +23

      @@TheMasterfulcreator No, Titanic was just slightly larger. Brittanic would be the largest months later, but of course she was not grand. She was a hospital ship almost immediately.

    • @TheMasterfulcreator
      @TheMasterfulcreator 3 роки тому +3

      @@thetireless1812 that's what i mean though. the sizes were virtually the same. and so nobody really cared about titanic's launch.

    • @Brennan-sb3ul
      @Brennan-sb3ul 3 роки тому +10

      Synn Fusion when it sailed it was the largest and the grandest, I have been studying it since I was 3😂

  • @jackackman9806
    @jackackman9806 3 роки тому +3

    Your videos open my eyes to so many things I never thought of, thank you. I have so many Titanic books and movies(Docs and Fiction), I've been an enthusiast for years, but your vids have answered a lot of questions I have thought about. As long as you're posting, I'll be watching. I do watch your non Titanic vids too. Stay safe.

  • @stephenperkins7414
    @stephenperkins7414 3 роки тому +17

    There was a test done on the documentary Titanic secrets revealed on a model using this theory .What was determined is the ship would have capsized from the unstable water and the power would have gone out sooner than it did because of the flooding of the boiler rooms through out the ship .In which the lifeboats would be impossible to launch in the dark on an unstable ship.

    • @aliciabrinkofski386
      @aliciabrinkofski386 3 роки тому +2

      I saw that same documentary they tested several theories. I can't remember the name of it.

    • @stephenperkins7414
      @stephenperkins7414 3 роки тому +2

      @@aliciabrinkofski386 Titanic Secrets Revealed it is on UA-cam .

    • @jonbonesmahomes7472
      @jonbonesmahomes7472 3 роки тому +4

      @@aliciabrinkofski386
      Titanic- secret revealed

    • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
      @RomanHistoryFan476AD 3 роки тому +2

      @@stephenperkins7414 Narrated by Captain Smith himself.

    • @aliciabrinkofski386
      @aliciabrinkofski386 3 роки тому +2

      Thank you I have been looking for that documentary for a long time.

  • @dimbulb6443
    @dimbulb6443 3 роки тому +5

    I saw in a Journal (from that era) a safety recommendation regarding waterproofing the the decks where the bulkheads end in order to limit/stop water from spilling over.

  • @tbd-1
    @tbd-1 3 роки тому +11

    My first thought when I saw the premise of this video: If the doors were open while Titanic sank, would it still have broken in "half"?

  • @dieseljester3466
    @dieseljester3466 3 роки тому +1

    I didn't know about the floats feature of the watertight doors. Learn something new every day!

  • @KravKernow
    @KravKernow 3 роки тому +20

    What if the watertight bulkheads had gone all the way to a watertight deck; as retrofitted to Olympic might be interesting. As would, what if the Californian had woken up the radio operator.

    • @mattt233
      @mattt233 3 роки тому +7

      There was an episode of History's Greatest Mysteries on History Channel.
      They talk about how a bad sextant reading drew them off course. About 13 miles. So where they said they were wasn't where they were. So even if they had gotten there they wouldn't have found anything.

    • @I.am.Sarah.
      @I.am.Sarah. 3 роки тому +6

      @@mattt233 True but they might have seen the flares from Titanic and found them

    • @mattt233
      @mattt233 3 роки тому +2

      Possibly.

    • @nowhereman1046
      @nowhereman1046 3 роки тому +4

      @@mattt233 Californian could see both Titanic's lights and white flares a the same time by the admission of her own officers and could've quickly realized by talking to Titanic via wireless that the coordinates were wrong.

    • @mattt233
      @mattt233 3 роки тому +4

      @@nowhereman1046 that's correct but there was also a temperature inversion that night which made everything harder to see and why the Titanic and Californian couldn't see eachother's Morse Lamps.

  • @meme9492
    @meme9492 3 роки тому +2

    Good sir: I laud your research. Very thorough and I like the graphics, but there is a small problem with the coal being shifted from starboard to port. It was impossible to do based on the design.
    The coal bunkers relied on gravity to drop coal to the bottom of the ship where it was shoveled out and into the boilers. Kind of like unloading a grain silo. You fill it at the top and remove it at the bottom and it empties via gravity. To do what people suggest, would require the stokers to take the coal out of the starboard gates at the bottom and stuff it back into the port gates at the bottom, effectively trying to fill a grain silo by stuffing it from the bottom and pushing it upward. In port, coal bunkers were filled externally via doors on either side of the hull. Fun fact: One reason coal fired steam ships were painted black from the waterline to the superstructure was because coal dust escaping during the loading would blacken the side of the ship, hence the black paint.
    The late port list was likely caused by a passage called "Scotland Road" on E Deck. Once the water rose over the D Deck bulkhead and reached E Deck, Scotland Road was an open passage that ran almost the length of the ship on the port side of the ship's center line. The flooding would have had a straight shot from compartment 5-10. Since the flooding of water down that tube was a counterbalance, the ship would have righted a little, then listed to port as the water began to run down Scotland Road.

  • @figmentofyourimagination5359
    @figmentofyourimagination5359 2 роки тому

    4:42. Thanks for clarifying what that noise was. I'm wearing headphones and was only listening in that moment. I'm sitting in my car and thought something was hitting and bouncing off the roof of my car lol. Thanks for that clarification.

  • @dixondiaz8448
    @dixondiaz8448 3 роки тому +8

    I’ve been reading about Titanic for 50 years and never heard of the float plates.

    • @doncarlton4858
      @doncarlton4858 3 роки тому

      But when you see the historical photo in this video, they're obvious. Now we know what they were.

    • @nickdaniels4385
      @nickdaniels4385 3 роки тому

      And no way to override them?

    • @michael931
      @michael931 3 роки тому

      @@nickdaniels4385 well I would say they did if they opened the doors to put the hoses through. That may have deactivated them. It depends how it was designed.

    • @B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont
      @B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont 3 роки тому

      Not much different than older, non-electronic switches to activate the ole' basement sump pump.

  • @richardcathcart2952
    @richardcathcart2952 3 роки тому +1

    Logical and lucid presentation. BRAVO.

  • @jimilives484
    @jimilives484 3 роки тому +20

    Everytime you say "back and back and back" I think you're going to be like Thomas Andrews in the movie - "there's no stopping it!"

    • @Laurentus89
      @Laurentus89 3 роки тому

      The problem is that the whole ‚water over the bulkhead‘ thing never happened. Common misconception.

    • @DavidWilliams-so2dy
      @DavidWilliams-so2dy 3 роки тому

      I thought that also 👍

  • @charlenekelley7268
    @charlenekelley7268 3 роки тому

    I very much appreciate your quick no nonsense presentations. Interesting.topics. Much appreciated.

  • @KYOTYouTube
    @KYOTYouTube Рік тому

    Your channel is fantastic. I've been watching your videos and your knowledge on the Titanic is especially impressive!

  • @anthonyhebisen
    @anthonyhebisen 3 роки тому +14

    Hello. New to your channel, and it’s always exciting meeting a fellow Titanic enthusiast. While watching your very thorough and excellent analysis of the watertight doors, I couldn’t help to wonder what your thoughts were on my personal What IF question on the fate of the worlds most famous ocean liner. The one “ what If “ that I never see anyone tackle. What effect on the sinking did lightoller’s open D-deck gangway door have on the sinking? Did it expedite her flooding or was the flooding pretty stabilized by that point? Had it not been opened would Titanic ever have leaned so much to port? Had she not been open, after the break , would her dislodged stern fall back evenly instead of capsizing ( or nearly ) to Port?
    Would love to hear your thoughts!

  • @phchallenger0941
    @phchallenger0941 3 роки тому +1

    Great video man! Love the energy, keeps the audience tuned in and keeps the content exciting

  • @esheanroblox1912
    @esheanroblox1912 3 роки тому +10

    Video idea: what if titanic's propellers where still moving in the sinking. How would the ship survive and how much time will it have

    • @Jermster_91
      @Jermster_91 3 роки тому +7

      Watch his Britannic video, it gives you idea of what would have happened to the Titanic if the engines were still rolling.

    • @matthewbarabas3052
      @matthewbarabas3052 3 роки тому +5

      the ship sinks faster, since if you are moving, the water pressure increases.

    • @dogninja0180
      @dogninja0180 3 роки тому +3

      also launching lifeboats would end in disaster

    • @justinv433
      @justinv433 3 роки тому +2

      Can’t launch lifeboats with the ship moving.

  • @Westyrulz
    @Westyrulz 3 роки тому +3

    They should have left the water tight doors open so the ship would not break in half thereby making it easier for us to refloat and put into a museum.Obviously a lack of forward thinking on the bridge that night.Another thing I find perplexing is why didn't Cpt Smith step down as Captain when learning his ship was going to sink after promoting his first officer to Cpt as his last command?This simple action would have enabled him to get into a lifeboat.

    • @scottwpilgrim
      @scottwpilgrim 3 роки тому

      Goddamn, you're right. I guess they failed to see 110 years into the future. 🤔

  • @BornToPun7541
    @BornToPun7541 3 роки тому +6

    Hey Sam, can you do a video about the conversion of RMS Olympic from coal to oil, and how the furnaces & boilers needed to be modified due to that change?

  • @Jorge-hj2tp
    @Jorge-hj2tp Рік тому +1

    It wouldn't have mattered. She would have still sank. The ceilings were not water tight. The only way things would have been different is if they missed the iceberg or the California would have came to the rescue. Such a terrible tragedy but I'm glad you are visiting the titanic history.

  • @maritimehistorian2642
    @maritimehistorian2642 3 роки тому +12

    Can you play Roblox Titanic/ Roblox Britannic please?
    Some more video Ideas:
    What if the 2 foot gash in boiler rm 5 wasn't made (this is my favorite)
    Sultana sinking
    What if the engines were not shut off during the sinking
    Father Thomas Byles who prayed with passengers on the sinking Titanic
    What happened to the dogs on Titanic

    • @emy7673
      @emy7673 3 роки тому +4

      YAAS! Roblox titanic! I remember that I need to play it again now...🤭

    • @basil9973
      @basil9973 3 роки тому +2

      S.O.S Titanic & Britannic are better.

    • @maritimehistorian2642
      @maritimehistorian2642 3 роки тому +1

      @@basil9973 NO THEY ARENT THOSE ARE LITERALLY THE WORST THEY HAVE A V-BREAK MODE!

  • @matthewpaul6904
    @matthewpaul6904 3 роки тому

    You probably get this a million times but thank you for that fine forensic analysis.

  • @ChillSlots
    @ChillSlots Рік тому

    Fascinating video sir great insight into possible scenarios etc. Love your detail and knowledge on the Titanic pal 👍👍

  • @fleshbobregularpants6250
    @fleshbobregularpants6250 3 роки тому

    I love that you used clips from Saving the Titanic, my favourite documentary about the sinking.

  • @armenianmapper3168
    @armenianmapper3168 3 роки тому

    (Text is from russian community of Titanic, translated from google )
    In 1997, during the filming of the documentary Titanic - Secrets Revealed, a similar experiment was carried to know the answer of this question.
    On the set, a water tank was installed, into which a model of the Titanic with a transparent body was immersed in order to record the flooding process. The watertight doors in it were previously opened. The seawater was supplied through rubber tubes to the compartments damaged by the iceberg. At the same time, a timer was started, the results of which were used to calculate the distance traveled by the "Carpathia" to the sinking "Titanic", and the speed of its sinking. Next comes the chronology of the flooding itself:
    23:40 - a tangential impact on the iceberg occurs, the Titanic receives a hole with an area of ​​1.11 square meters. meters.
    11:50 pm - seawater unhindered floods the first seven compartments damaged by the iceberg, up to boiler room # 4.
    00:20 - lifeboats are uncovered, landing begins. Every minute, about 400 tons of seawater flows through the open hull of the Titanic. The crew and passengers in a panic try to get up from the lower decks.
    00:40 - The first lifeboat departs from the sinking Titanic. The steamer sinks deeper into the ocean. The Carpathia, hurrying to the rescue, is 50 miles from the coordinates sent by radio operator Jack Phillips.
    00:45 - seawater reaches the last functioning boiler house # 1. The steam supply to the emergency and main generators is stopped. After a while, the electric light goes out. Chaos and panic engulf the decks. The Titanic has already absorbed approximately 20,000 tons of water.
    1:30 - Carpathia 40 miles from the sinking Titanic. Half of the total number of lifeboats has already been launched.
    1:40 - The water makes its way down the Scottish Highway, thereby increasing the LH roll.
    1:45 am - because of the increasing list, the remaining lifeboats cannot be lowered.
    1:47 - the center of gravity shifts - the Titanic capsizes towards the port side and sinks.
    The model with open watertight doors sank 33 minutes earlier than the real Titanic. At the same time, about half of the boats remained unused. In total, the number of survivors in the boats would not exceed 400-500 passengers. At this time, the "Carpathia" was at a distance of 30 miles from the position of the "Titanic". Obviously, the consequences would have been even more catastrophic, with a large number of victims and the Carpathia in any case would not have had time to come to the rescue.

  • @stevenl2303
    @stevenl2303 3 роки тому +5

    Video Idea: Was Titanic's rudder too small? Thanks for making these videos. I enjoy them.

    • @dogninja0180
      @dogninja0180 3 роки тому

      .......what
      what does this point towards anything?

    • @steveburke1519
      @steveburke1519 3 роки тому +1

      @@dogninja0180 I've read theories about that. The Titanic could've turned faster and in a smaller arc, thus missing the iceberg, but it's only speculation.

    • @tonybrant1919
      @tonybrant1919 3 роки тому

      @@steveburke1519 It was too small to turn in time for that size ship. After all, ships that big were fairly new. That has been proven and talked about plenty.

    • @steveburke1519
      @steveburke1519 3 роки тому

      @@tonybrant1919 That's what I said, although maybe I could've worded it better, I should've said, "With a bigger rudder, the Titanic could've turned faster and in a smaller arc, thus missing the iceberg, but it's only speculation."

  • @TGMResearch
    @TGMResearch Рік тому

    The tragic irony of the Titanic's design was that water _could_ spill over precisely where passengers were _meant_ to "spill over", i.e. move around conveniently, and enjoy spacious rooms and corridors. Considering that damage in all likelihood occurs at the bow section, i.e. where the hull is widening (you simply don't hit an iceberg or rock sideways), it might have made a lot of sense to have the forward 4 to 6 bulkheads run all the way up so that they could never spill over, and allocate the main passenger areas to the mid and stern sections, where there is far less likelihood of damage.

  • @Jrocksism
    @Jrocksism 3 роки тому +5

    Video idea: how would the sinking be affected if the gangway door remained closed?

    • @lexmaximaguy8788
      @lexmaximaguy8788 3 роки тому +2

      possibly she would have lasted 30 min longer.

  • @skpknight8115
    @skpknight8115 2 роки тому

    Your knowledge of the ship's watertight compartment is very well researched .Even I did not know some of the things you mentioned, like the float plates.

  • @ErikVince
    @ErikVince 3 роки тому +26

    The water tank doors being left opened I think it would have sunk a lot quicker than what it did

  • @RomanTheMan
    @RomanTheMan 3 роки тому

    Also the open D deck gangway door helped stabilize her, as water was now flowing in from the opposite side of the iceberg damage as well.

  • @aj402
    @aj402 3 роки тому

    Excellent presentation.
    I learned a couple of things.
    It’s refreshing to see such a well-spoken intelligent young person expertly explain this event.

  • @Camibug
    @Camibug Рік тому

    Good thing you love making these what if videos because I love watching them! ❤😊

  • @shweyee6888
    @shweyee6888 3 роки тому

    Loves your videos I watch them everyday I’m addicted to your videos

  • @robconnizzo7758
    @robconnizzo7758 3 роки тому +5

    Do you think that Murdoch’s order to reverse the engines guaranteed a collision? Would turning hard over with the engines full ahead have decreased the turning radius and avoided disaster?

    • @trevorbluesquirrel899
      @trevorbluesquirrel899 3 роки тому +3

      The faster a ship is moving, the faster it can turn, so if they hadn't reversed the engines slowing the ship down, it could have avoided the berg!

    • @compaholic83
      @compaholic83 3 роки тому +2

      @@trevorbluesquirrel899 But I thought because in Titanic's case, the rudders were too small, so the faster it was going the less of an affect it would have on turning?

    • @trevorbluesquirrel899
      @trevorbluesquirrel899 3 роки тому +1

      @@compaholic83 I've never heard that before, just that turning 30 seconds sooner would have prevented the collision, or at least not breached too many compartments!
      Found this article that mentions your point though! www.recordgazette.net/sun_lakes_life/the-choice-that-doomed-the-titanic/article_b06ab884-746a-11ea-859b-0b4626a18b89.html

  • @kaylahall1219
    @kaylahall1219 Рік тому

    11:26 that fire was really a blessing then? Amazing!

  • @IIGrayfoxII
    @IIGrayfoxII Рік тому

    With britianic, the sea mine buckled the bulkhead doors preventing them from closing all the way.
    Britanic also had port hole windows opened by nurses which let water in

  • @vicmclaglen1631
    @vicmclaglen1631 3 роки тому +4

    The best "what if" that never would have happened is, of course, if the 1st officer decided to simply reverse the engines and ram the berg head-on. Ship would have survived, been able to continue slowly on to NY, Murdoch would have been immediately relieved of command and never sailed as an officer again. We'd have a curious story of great technological triumph despite the obvious insanity of the officer in command, but very few would have lost their lives.

    • @m44WILSON
      @m44WILSON 3 роки тому

      They did attempt to reverse the engines. The issue with that is less wash over rudder which makes it less effective. If they maintained engines ahead, they may have been able to turn quicker and save the ship.

    • @tonybrant1919
      @tonybrant1919 3 роки тому

      @@m44WILSON I've always been interested in this catastrophe. I have also always heard that the rudder was too small to turn the ship quickly. That is a very good question of the technical part of the construction at that time in history.

    • @m44WILSON
      @m44WILSON 3 роки тому

      @@tonybrant1919 There is a reason why nowadays rudders are built directly behind propellers.

    • @kingkermit2094
      @kingkermit2094 3 роки тому

      @@m44WILSON Murdoch didn't reverse the engines he ordered them to stop. Frederick Barret was a stoker on titanic. In the inquiry he said that a certain light came on in the boiler rooms. This light would signal that the engines would need to be stopped. He then ordered his men to shut all the dampers so the steam would vent, because without steam titanic can't run thus stopping her engines.

    • @MarinCipollina
      @MarinCipollina 2 роки тому

      @@m44WILSON Actually modern ships of size don't use rudders at all. the propellers are mounted on differentials and can be directly turned themselves.

  • @colorado841
    @colorado841 Рік тому +2

    What if the turned on all the furnaces that weren't flooded on full blast to heat up the water, so that they could heat up the water so it would rise and warm up the swimmers after the titanic sank?

  • @deetriq
    @deetriq 3 роки тому +7

    I have a video idea: what if the Californian had responded, but they came when the ship split into 2?

    • @AHAproductions712
      @AHAproductions712 3 роки тому +3

      I wonder what would happen if she sank in shallow water

    • @AnimalAnimeLover
      @AnimalAnimeLover 3 роки тому +1

      I was just going to write this you beat me too it ;)

    • @justinv433
      @justinv433 3 роки тому

      They would have showed up, at best, soon after the Titanic was gone. They’d be able to save some people, but not most. The only way to pick people up would be using Californian’s lifeboats. By the time the boats were filled and returned to Californian, everyone left in the water would be dead.

    • @deetriq
      @deetriq 3 роки тому

      @@AnimalAnimeLover lol rip

    • @deetriq
      @deetriq 3 роки тому

      @@justinv433 thanks for some info, it has been a question in my mind for a while!

  • @aonoymousandy7467
    @aonoymousandy7467 2 роки тому +1

    My list of precautions to prevent titanic sinking
    1. Enough lifeboats for every soul
    2. Much higher watertight compartments
    3. Dropped anchors ⚓ when iceberg spotted
    4. Rammed straight through iceberg
    5. Equipped with inflatable boats

    • @pennypizza3919
      @pennypizza3919 2 роки тому

      those are some of the safety precautions that they originally planned for until they got rid of the extra lifeboats stupid

  • @MissSA75
    @MissSA75 2 роки тому +1

    I'm a new subscriber, and first and foremost, I want to express my gratitude for your channel. You might wonder why, but it's because I had a lot of questions regarding the Titanic that I couldn't find answers to, and your channel has helped me to discover answers to each and every one of them. I do have one question . I hope you have the time to respond in one of your videos you mentioned the grand staircase is no longer there and that there is a large hole there. So, when they send the camera down in the grand staircase , can it go all the way to the bottom of the ship, to the boiler room? From London 🇬🇧

  • @HiOctane62
    @HiOctane62 2 роки тому +1

    Something to think about. What if the Titanic had had three sets of spot lights in the bow looking for icebergs. We know that it was a clear dark night without out the moon.

  • @filipohman7277
    @filipohman7277 3 роки тому +1

    Great Work Man 👍😀 Greetings from Helsinki Finland 🇫🇮

  • @coolhand67
    @coolhand67 3 роки тому +1

    I heard an idea once that might have slowed it down even further. Drop mattresses by ropes over side that the water pressure would then seal the gash and of course keep pumping!

    • @coolhand67
      @coolhand67 3 роки тому

      @Biden Sucks probably, but couldn’t have hurt trying.

    • @coolhand67
      @coolhand67 3 роки тому

      @Biden Sucks 😢

  • @kingtigercrownestate9102
    @kingtigercrownestate9102 2 роки тому

    A BIG BIG reason why the Britannic capsized is probably because they were trying to turn the ship toward Kea Island as it was sinking that probably has a WHOLE lot to do with the Britannic capsizing the ship otherwise may have very well went down in an upright position.
    They (unintentionally) gave the ship the momentum and the tilt it needed to capsize by trying to turn it toward an island.

  • @shaunholt
    @shaunholt 3 роки тому +3

    What if they moved everything and everyone to the rear of the ship? Lift the leaking bow up.
    🤯

    • @DavidWilliams-so2dy
      @DavidWilliams-so2dy 3 роки тому

      Everyone would have been really tired when they died.🙄☠️

  • @shikishinobi
    @shikishinobi 3 роки тому

    Very interesting and well researched. Will definitely have a look around your channel, as I love Titanic for both its history and science. Look forward to seeing what other topics you have.

  • @xiaoka
    @xiaoka 3 роки тому +1

    They could have ran the pump lines faster if the doors never closed, right? ...And the water would have spread to more sections with pumps.... that would have helped a bit.
    But yes capsizing sounds much more likely.

  • @godfellas483
    @godfellas483 2 роки тому

    Another good what if Question is "What if the Carpathia had modern EMT capability when all the bodies were recovered from the freezing waters?" Modern science has shown that a body that has expired from sudden hypothermia can often be revived up to 50 minutes later. Makes me wonder how many others may have lived...

  • @sbphillips177
    @sbphillips177 3 роки тому

    I learn so much from your videos thanks much..

  • @jus10lewissr
    @jus10lewissr Рік тому

    I always forget, until I watch this channel, that I need to look for decent sized models of the three Olympic-class sisters that are already put together and painted. I've put a Titanic model together, way back in the mid-nineties, but I badly butchered the paint job; I'd very much like to have all three the same size and detail, totally completed, and well-painted. I find it odd that I'm so obsessed with old liners, ESPECIALLY the Olympic-class, yet I don't own a single model of a ship. Lol

  • @amberv4223
    @amberv4223 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you, this is interesting

  • @Samuli501
    @Samuli501 3 роки тому

    Nice history channel mate! Try to invest in a nice condenser mike for vocals. Will subscribe.

  • @azmystiere7600
    @azmystiere7600 3 роки тому +1

    Always intriguing and interesting with the What Ifs with the Titanic.... here is another one... If the guys in the crows nest, spotted the iceberg another 15 to 30 seconds sooner, would have the Titanic been able to avoid the iceberg and survived?

  • @johnminshall242
    @johnminshall242 2 роки тому

    What an interesting theory. Didn’t affect the end result, of course, but a great explanation for the near-3 hour delay in sinking… which may have saved some lives (due to the extremely cold water temperature)?

  • @mh4392
    @mh4392 3 роки тому +1

    I don’t know if you’ve covered this before, but one thing I’ve wondered for a long time is whether causing a leak in one or two of the compartments closest to the stern of the ship would slow down or even stop the sinking?

  • @Don-dj5ln
    @Don-dj5ln 3 роки тому

    All your videos are great Sam

  • @LeftiusMaximus
    @LeftiusMaximus 3 роки тому +1

    The other design flaw is the water tight doors don’t go all the way to the deck.

  • @criffermaclennan
    @criffermaclennan 3 роки тому

    Brittanic sank quickly because a lot of the portholes were open to "air the ship" before she picked up her casualties. Similarly the empress of Ireland sank in 14 minutes due to the 2 largest compartments being breached by the storstadt and,the number of portholes that were open.

  • @MrFreesearcher
    @MrFreesearcher 3 роки тому

    Britannic was refit with a double hull, unlike Titanic and Olympic. Unfortunately the space between the double hull was not compartmentalized apart from along the keel. As the water entered Britannic, it filled this compartment along the one side, starting a roll. Also being a hot day, all the portholes were open, allowing water to spill inside, leading to a quick sinking. With Titanic, the raging fire in Bunker 6, combined with cold sea water, made the hull very brittle. As the ship hit the iceburg, the rivets failed along the waterline, back to compartment 5 where the fire was raging. Here a larger hole was torn open in the brittle hull, intensifying the flooding. Reports of some of the water tight doors being jammed open to allow stokers to escape meant the ship was doomed to sink regardless. Harland and Wolf had designed the ship to have some flexibility in the mid ship, so waves didn't crack the hull. This weak point would be the cause of the ship snapping in two during the sinking.

  • @L33tSkE3t
    @L33tSkE3t 2 роки тому +1

    I’d like to know what would have happened if the water tight bulkheads would have went all the way up so the water couldn’t flow over.

  • @zacharytravis1919
    @zacharytravis1919 2 роки тому +1

    Wow this is really amazing !!

  • @jjb33083
    @jjb33083 3 роки тому

    To put it simply, it's like refilling your ice cube tray. 3:41.

  • @ericzink1707
    @ericzink1707 2 роки тому

    Another difference between the Titanic and Britannic that could contribute to the the latter capsizing when the former did not was the open portholes on the Britannic that accelerated her flooding.

  • @jetdriver
    @jetdriver 3 роки тому

    I don’t think that leaving the doors open automatically introduces a list. Because the doors are on the centerline and raised off the deck so your going to get some water in each compartment before it moves aft.
    The really interesting question given her pump configuration is what happens if you seal compartments 1-4 and leave open everything aft of that. If the rate of water inflow in those two compartments is low enough (which is an unknown) it’s possible that now with water able to run aft the pumps come into play a lot sooner and her pumping capacity possibly is able to keep up with the rate of inflow in 5 and 6.
    Another interesting question is what potentially happens if you counter flood a couple of spaces aft. Would the weight aft be enough to prevent water overflowing the bulkheads? I suspect no but I’ve never seen this looked at.

  • @Eugene2ndW
    @Eugene2ndW Рік тому

    I had seen on one of the science channel, not long after the wreck was found, where an acrylic model was built to test the scenario and it showed the ship would have rolled if the wt doors were left open. I have not seen the episode repeated in all of the reruns

  • @francoisschawlb5439
    @francoisschawlb5439 3 роки тому

    Very interesting and well done video. Thanks.

  • @davidhenderson3400
    @davidhenderson3400 3 роки тому +1

    If the doors had been left open I do not think it would have broken in half. And the water would have also been able to make its way to where the pumps were at buying even more time. It was going down no matter what but i think is the door had been left open it would have held together and not broken in half and the pumps would have been able to be used and add just a little bit more time.

  • @ReaverLordTonus
    @ReaverLordTonus 6 місяців тому

    I've been curious about this, if they distributed the flooding more evenly, could they have bought more time. Also the problem with the Titanic's design was that the water would just flow over the tops of the bulkheads, likely through ventilation systems and the stairwells. So if they could have sealed these things off, would that have slowed the rate water flowed out from one compartment to the next?

  • @Quadrenaro
    @Quadrenaro 3 роки тому +1

    What happened to crew stuck in the compartments after the doors closed? Were there escape hatches higher up?

    • @nowhereman1046
      @nowhereman1046 3 роки тому +2

      In effect, yes. The watertight bulkheads only went up so far and access out of one could be effected by climbing out via ladders to the big Scotland Road hallway. If you play the Honor and Glory Britannic game, you can see what these ladders and hatches in and out were like.
      Only one crewman was actually trapped by the doors closing, a greaser who looked out after the propeller shafts who was trapped in a tunnel by one. However, he was released by his crewmates shortly after.

  • @germanshepherdlover2613
    @germanshepherdlover2613 4 місяці тому

    Love the "what ifs" ...l think most have a lot of "what ifs" with the Titanic.

  • @ScramasaxeRA
    @ScramasaxeRA 3 роки тому

    The main reason Brittanic capsized was twofold. Firstly, the shock of the mine had damaged the watertight doors in the area of the strike. The second, and the reason for her rolling over specifically, was the portholes kept open to ventilate. The water was unbalanced to start due to the size of the blast and the watertight doors allowing the water to remain uneven, and when the starboard portholes were dragged under the water was allowed to flood that side of the ship

  • @larrywt656
    @larrywt656 3 роки тому

    Whether or not the watertight doors were open, the ship was doomed. Even though the damage to the ship from scraping the iceberg was relatively minor, it still broke open too many of the compartments. The ship could have survived with four flooded compartments, but the damage stretched across at least six compartments. Thomas Andrews knew when he inspected the damage that there was nothing that could save the ship at that point. The Titanic disaster was an extreme case of a "Murphy's Law perfect storm". Literally, everything that could have gone wrong that night DID go wrong. IMHO, the main culprit was Bruce Ismay. His arrogance and misguided belief in his own propaganda over the ship's "unsinkable" status caused him to make a number of decisions against the advice of his own highly experienced captain that led the Titanic into the wolves' den that night. Captain Smith was also compliant, however, for not standing up to Ismay. He already knew this was gonna be his farewell voyage anyway, so I don't know why he wasn't more insistent in demanding Ismay to just back off and actually make the important decisions himself. In this day and age, Ismay would have been completely eviscerated by social media.

  • @RobCLynch
    @RobCLynch 2 роки тому +3

    Let's not forget that if the water tight doors had been left open and the icy water made it to the red hot boilers, the resulting huge explosions may have blown Titanic apart, resulting in an even faster sinking.

  • @jrassinier
    @jrassinier 3 роки тому

    As someone who has been fascinated by this ship since around 1982, I have to say the stuff I've researched shows it didn't break in half. To me anyone who looks at the ships debris should see that.

  • @zyloproductions4870
    @zyloproductions4870 Рік тому

    Question. There were watertight doors on E-Deck that closed or horizontally and could only be closed manually. Did these have a float plate failsafe too?

  • @kevinlindsay8434
    @kevinlindsay8434 2 роки тому

    Love your huge Titanic model .Cool and wow.

  • @mikbe2579
    @mikbe2579 2 роки тому +1

    The "watertight" bulkheads of the Titanic were not watertight at all because they were open at the top and the water ran successively through all sections of the bulkhead. In my opinion, the delay in the ship filling up can therefore only have been minimal.

  • @Jacen13
    @Jacen13 3 роки тому

    I have always been fascinated with Titanic. I remember when James Cameron announced they were making a motion picture about the tragic event.

  • @nadiasvens
    @nadiasvens 3 роки тому

    Ah! What a lovely channel is this?!

  • @Laserman99
    @Laserman99 3 роки тому

    Good video. Question is why is the one and only document from the investigation that said she was stable until captain tried to shorten the distance between her and Carpathia never mentioned. Engineering put additional pumps in place to over come the water level rising and moving of the ship flooded the pump room.

  • @crs2385
    @crs2385 3 роки тому

    Also Britannic had starboard portholes open in the bow section which played a major part in Britannic flipping onto her side, and i'm sure Britannic's watertight doors jammed due to the explosion from the mine.

  • @tonyday4250
    @tonyday4250 3 роки тому +2

    here's a question what would of happened if the titanic didn't turn to try and miss the ice burg and hit it head on only flooding the 1st and maybe the 2nd front areas????

    • @mns2137
      @mns2137 3 роки тому

      I saw a show that tried to imitate that. Sadly, it seems the ship would be fine had it hit the iceberg head on.

  • @lewisyork3841
    @lewisyork3841 3 роки тому

    I know this was probably not even possible. But I always wondered what would of happened if they ran hoses from the front to the back and deliberately flooded the rear to lift the front out of the water.
    Could the rear compartment hold enough water to either lift the crack out the water completely or at least slow the intake enough to pump it back overboard. Had that idea from being a kid. Great vid btw and would like to hear your views

  • @larchman4327
    @larchman4327 Рік тому

    Few questions did the watertight doors have a manual override (so the engineering crew could open them) perhaps that would deactivate the automatic float switches. In a night to remember the engineering/engine room people were running hoses through the watertight door sealing areas if so would these hoses prevent the doors from full closing and sealing.

  • @Ajmolloy23
    @Ajmolloy23 3 роки тому

    Love these vids! But I do wish you did some other ships and Maybe some more vids like the Pompeii one Maybe like mount saint Hellenes? Keep up the good work!

  • @airiaio
    @airiaio 3 роки тому

    why is that titanic model so big- i love it-
    4:24

  • @nuclearnugget2294
    @nuclearnugget2294 3 роки тому

    What do you think would happen if they made the Titanic 2 and sailed it on the originals maiden voyage to try again? What precautions do you think they would take so that history wouldn't repeat itself? (Example: having a radar that detects bergs from far away, slowing the ship down or stopping it at night, and resuming full speed in the morning. More life boats on the off chance that the ship would strike a berg) I would like to hear your theory on what would happen with a Titanic 2. I heard they were going to rebuild it, and try again, but I haven't heard anything about it in a while.