Great video! Thank you very much. I've noticed from beginners' work, including my own, that a common problem is too much contrast in details and ignoring the overall light and shade. It would be great if you could make a video about how to avoid that before you start, about planning the work and how not to go into detail.
LOVE this! I've been told 'your lightest dark is still darker than your darkest light,' and even though I understand it in theory, watching you work on the portrait really helped me understand how to apply it. Thank you!
I don't usually want courses but this is blowing my mind, I'm considering getting this now because holy crap. So much useful information in a short video, never seen such a dense value on UA-cam other than some Marco Bucci videos.
The full course seems to be still unreleased. It looks like only the fundamentals portion has been released over a relatively long period of time. Maybe a bit questionable to pay 200$ in advance and wait for months for the lessons to show up.
@@eonstar Yeah sure but I don't know if it's reasonable to ask for a hefty amount for an unfinished course which seems to be progressing at a snail's pace because there are a lot of people who like to go through the online material fast and then digest it by doing the exercises and returning to source material when needed. I mean that's the advantage of online courses, right? The ability to revisit the lessons whenever you like.
So i just recently started painting in greyscale after 3 years of using directly colors, i realized how it improves my values and how free it feels and just how easy it is
Yes this is literally just what I needed! I'm currently studying light and shadow on primitives, and I'm using values since colour theory is a whole other ballgame. Thanks you for this
It was actually really interesting when the camera view was pulled back to focus on Jon, while still keeping the piece he was detailing in frame, you could really see the difference the changes in values made!
Amazing tips!. I good really really good way to start a painting is to get all your shadow shapes first including the accent shadows or Ambient occulsion. Have your shadow values be as accurate as possible. This will help you determine what the mid tone and light should be.
One mistake I continue to make with value studies is that I initially start with two values that don't have extreme contrast. Then my eyes get used to the range established by those initial values and adding higher/lower value makes it pop out too much. But if I don't look at it for a while or someone else looks at it, it's apparent that the contrast just isn't there.
thanks, I'll need this because I got stuck at deciding how to lay down values in my recent painting. I've stopped working on it because it was overwhelming to decide.
Thinking of investing in a good drawing tablet to get started digitally after drawing on my phone for years. Any recommendations? Or what devices do you use?
Honestly just the get ones you can afford. Since you're just starting, there's no need to get the professional high grade tablets at the expense of your wallet.
I use Huion personally. I had a wacom intuos 5, and while that was good at the time, im digging the huion. And they ARE on the cheaper end. Id say they rival with wacoms, but only a fraction of the price.
I’ve only had a couple tablets over the years but it can depend on whether you want to draw directly onto a screen (like drawing on paper) or drawing onto a tablet and looking at a computer screen to see what you are actually drawing. For the latter I used to use a Wacom intuos and it held up really well and was really easy to use! I don’t know much about screen tablets (since the one I had broke and now works like my old wacom) but I know the colours can appear differently on the tablet screen than on the computer. Idk if this helps at all but this was my experience with both types.
Get the ones you can afford (02). You don't need a high end/big one. Just something small enough (notebook sized) with tilt function and buttons(useful for mapping keyboard shortcuts). I use XP Pen Deco mini 7. Works great. Got in during a sale.
@@chiderakalaji7206 I am eyeing towards stuff from XP PEN, leaning more into the newly released stuff like Deco M or their older stuff Deco 01 V2. Just confused between these two.
I think this tutorial is rather confusing. On the first drawing it seems as if he is treating the face as the most important part of the drawing. However this makes no sense considering this is a study and not an actual piece that tries to convey emotions,have character etc. Its simply practising your skills. The right way to treat studies like this one is to consider everything of equal importance. You go in the trouble of correcting the small light shape on the corner of his face which is a small detail but completely ignore the bad value comparisson that exists everywhere. The face seems as light as the collar even though it isnt, the feather is too dark,the light shape on the hat and his attire on the left are too dark the backround needs to be a little darker and you can tell by taking a glimpse. If you feel like it helps you to generalise the tones at the beginning of your drawing its a completely valid way of approach and i use it as well. However you overgeneralize on some parts and leave it at that as if it doesnt require any more detail in relation to the rest of the drawing. If you want to have general values in contrast to a more detailed approach that is still fine but you have to keep it that way throughout the whole drawing and not oversimplify on some parts and detail on others.To be honest the original drawing seems more spot on the value.
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Is this course available in spanish, or subtitled in spanish?
Great video! Thank you very much. I've noticed from beginners' work, including my own, that a common problem is too much contrast in details and ignoring the overall light and shade. It would be great if you could make a video about how to avoid that before you start, about planning the work and how not to go into detail.
@Oyou LMAO
You avoid it by going from big to small.
@Oyou ooookaaaay..?
Hey, there! We do have a video from Jon that might give you some of what you're looking for:
ua-cam.com/video/LaP-7kJRHwE/v-deo.html
@Oyou I respect your confidence haha
LOVE this! I've been told 'your lightest dark is still darker than your darkest light,' and even though I understand it in theory, watching you work on the portrait really helped me understand how to apply it. Thank you!
Wow! His feedback doesn't correct the work, it improves it and that's absolutely awesome 👏
Jon has a special talent for not just talking negatively about the work and "fixing" it. He gives actionable information and we love him for it!
this is one of the best proko videos in a while
I don't usually want courses but this is blowing my mind, I'm considering getting this now because holy crap. So much useful information in a short video, never seen such a dense value on UA-cam other than some Marco Bucci videos.
The full course seems to be still unreleased. It looks like only the fundamentals portion has been released over a relatively long period of time. Maybe a bit questionable to pay 200$ in advance and wait for months for the lessons to show up.
@@Minsetti if anything, I think waiting could help you pace yourself and make more meaningful progress in each topic
@@eonstar Yeah sure but I don't know if it's reasonable to ask for a hefty amount for an unfinished course which seems to be progressing at a snail's pace because there are a lot of people who like to go through the online material fast and then digest it by doing the exercises and returning to source material when needed. I mean that's the advantage of online courses, right? The ability to revisit the lessons whenever you like.
So i just recently started painting in greyscale after 3 years of using directly colors, i realized how it improves my values and how free it feels and just how easy it is
The quality of the information provided here is insane
02:19 the minute he darkened the hat and clothing the face immediately stood out to me.
Yes this is literally just what I needed! I'm currently studying light and shadow on primitives, and I'm using values since colour theory is a whole other ballgame. Thanks you for this
It was actually really interesting when the camera view was pulled back to focus on Jon, while still keeping the piece he was detailing in frame, you could really see the difference the changes in values made!
Fantastic stuff! Values are so important! So difficult yet you make it look so easy. Please keep going with these videos, I am learning so much.
Amazing tips!. I good really really good way to start a painting is to get all your shadow shapes first including the accent shadows or Ambient occulsion. Have your shadow values be as accurate as possible. This will help you determine what the mid tone and light should be.
One mistake I continue to make with value studies is that I initially start with two values that don't have extreme contrast. Then my eyes get used to the range established by those initial values and adding higher/lower value makes it pop out too much. But if I don't look at it for a while or someone else looks at it, it's apparent that the contrast just isn't there.
thanks, I'll need this because I got stuck at deciding how to lay down values in my recent painting. I've stopped working on it because it was overwhelming to decide.
My values and contrast need much improvement. This video is honestly gonna help my practice
Wow your channel has turned into something amazing, love these type of videos!!
need a video about rim light's use and how it works
Honestly, even with that I learned a lot! Thanks so much!
I draw with a mouse and I'm going to steal these tips just because they are so good. Thank you.
People who draw with a mouse fear nothing
@@carpet498 me: *looks at lineart and shading without pen pressure*
Wow this was suuuper helpful, thanks!!
Just what I needed right now.
This is VERY helpfull, even if i heard it a few time before haha. Need to practice...
Thank you 😊
Este conteúdo é maravilhoso, muito útil!
Just a quick question, is mr. Stan Prokopenko ever making a video again?
I am! The Proko Stories will feature some outtakes of me recording my Drawing Basics course, up until I get to release that this year.
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It was helpful, thanks
Thank you very much
Great video !!
Extremely valuable 👌
Thanks for sharing
I needed this sooooo bad
One day I will get this course just wish I wasn't so poor!
Kind of unrelated, but is there an artist’s glove that you recommend?
Really Helpfull
Is this course available in spanish, or subtitled in spanish?
No but you can use automatic traductor
Thinking of investing in a good drawing tablet to get started digitally after drawing on my phone for years. Any recommendations? Or what devices do you use?
Honestly just the get ones you can afford. Since you're just starting, there's no need to get the professional high grade tablets at the expense of your wallet.
I use Huion personally.
I had a wacom intuos 5, and while that was good at the time, im digging the huion.
And they ARE on the cheaper end. Id say they rival with wacoms, but only a fraction of the price.
I’ve only had a couple tablets over the years but it can depend on whether you want to draw directly onto a screen (like drawing on paper) or drawing onto a tablet and looking at a computer screen to see what you are actually drawing. For the latter I used to use a Wacom intuos and it held up really well and was really easy to use! I don’t know much about screen tablets (since the one I had broke and now works like my old wacom) but I know the colours can appear differently on the tablet screen than on the computer. Idk if this helps at all but this was my experience with both types.
Get the ones you can afford (02).
You don't need a high end/big one. Just something small enough (notebook sized) with tilt function and buttons(useful for mapping keyboard shortcuts). I use XP Pen Deco mini 7. Works great. Got in during a sale.
@@chiderakalaji7206 I am eyeing towards stuff from XP PEN, leaning more into the newly released stuff like Deco M or their older stuff Deco 01 V2. Just confused between these two.
W video very useful for studing
Thank you in advance
Great!!!
Nice
👏👏👏👏
I think this tutorial is rather confusing. On the first drawing it seems as if he is treating the face as the most important part of the drawing. However this makes no sense considering this is a study and not an actual piece that tries to convey emotions,have character etc. Its simply practising your skills. The right way to treat studies like this one is to consider everything of equal importance. You go in the trouble of correcting the small light shape on the corner of his face which is a small detail but completely ignore the bad value comparisson that exists everywhere. The face seems as light as the collar even though it isnt, the feather is too dark,the light shape on the hat and his attire on the left are too dark the backround needs to be a little darker and you can tell by taking a glimpse. If you feel like it helps you to generalise the tones at the beginning of your drawing its a completely valid way of approach and i use it as well. However you overgeneralize on some parts and leave it at that as if it doesnt require any more detail in relation to the rest of the drawing. If you want to have general values in contrast to a more detailed approach that is still fine but you have to keep it that way throughout the whole drawing and not oversimplify on some parts and detail on others.To be honest the original drawing seems more spot on the value.
Ez, no cap
Can you do a critique of the Michelle Obama portrait recently unveiled in the White House? And why it looks like a disaster?
Despite being 10 minutes there's very little "meat and potatoes" here. Could've been condensed into a 3 minute short imo.