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  • Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman react to the major NFL trade that sent Jared Goff to the Detroit Lions and Matthew Stafford to the Los Angeles Rams.
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  • @tylerburfield4312
    @tylerburfield4312 2 роки тому +260

    Max: “This is a bad trade.”
    Well this aged horribly.

    • @wheezy498
      @wheezy498 2 роки тому +1

      He said right now.

    • @samuelsandate9804
      @samuelsandate9804 2 роки тому +6

      @@wheezy498 He did said they had to win the Super Bowl or it would be a disaster. I agree with that take. Glad they won the Super Bowl.

    • @buddygass3728
      @buddygass3728 2 роки тому +6

      @@samuelsandate9804 it still wouldn’t of been a disaster

    • @BOTzerker
      @BOTzerker 2 роки тому +1

      The mistake was giving Goff an insane extension after losing to the Patriots in the Super Bowl. And I knew it then!

    • @detroitsports3801
      @detroitsports3801 Рік тому +3

      And this comment is aging terribly

  • @abdulahigelle6295
    @abdulahigelle6295 2 роки тому +84

    Who’s here after Stafford lead the rams to the SUPER BOWL

    • @Treday313
      @Treday313 6 місяців тому +1

      Who’s here after Jared Beat Stafford And Lead The Team To NFC

    • @youreokayboah2128
      @youreokayboah2128 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Treday313and choked against the 49ers :(

  • @savage7619
    @savage7619 2 роки тому +100

    Max: They have to win a super bowl in the next 2 years or it's a disaster
    Rams: And I took that as a challenge

    • @chrispacmanjones2765
      @chrispacmanjones2765 2 роки тому +4

      The rams too it personally.

    • @brikshoe6259
      @brikshoe6259 2 роки тому +2

      Max: They have to win a super bowl in the next 2 years or it's a disaster.
      Rams: Hold my Gatorade.

    • @samuelsandate9804
      @samuelsandate9804 2 роки тому +1

      @@chrispacmanjones2765 Max was right, they had to win or this would be a disaster. I agree with that take. Glad they won the Super Bowl.

    • @buddygass3728
      @buddygass3728 2 роки тому

      @@samuelsandate9804 not really I mean the chances of those picks helping us more then stafford is slim to none goff wasn’t great it’s a good trade for the lions but also a elite trade for the rams

  • @h0p314
    @h0p314 2 роки тому +121

    Watching this with a grin on my face shortly after Stafford won the Super Bowl 🤣

    • @johnwilkinsonjr4263
      @johnwilkinsonjr4263 2 роки тому +2

      Foreal! I knew he was going to SuperBowl when this trade happened. I knew rams making it to the SuperBowl. Like they were gonna make noise. The team is stacked! Back then it was stacked but this team a Super Team!

    • @HBTLions
      @HBTLions Рік тому

      How about now?

    • @h0p314
      @h0p314 Рік тому

      @@HBTLions Stafford got his ring so yeah, still smiling. 🙃

    • @jmooretv4101
      @jmooretv4101 Рік тому

      @@HBTLions good question 😂

    • @HBTLions
      @HBTLions Рік тому

      @H0P3 I'm happy for stafford as well I'm just now concerned for the future of his health/career

  • @connoraeschbach9499
    @connoraeschbach9499 3 роки тому +409

    Matthew Stafford missed 8 games last year. He has missed 8 games in the last 10 years. He is not "injury-prone".

    • @joshkulmatycki442
      @joshkulmatycki442 3 роки тому +22

      Man I was thinking the SAME thing, it was just last year! Before that you have to go back to his rookie year for anything significant. He had a cpl hand injuries but played through them.

    • @justinsimmons1738
      @justinsimmons1738 3 роки тому +23

      See, he is injury prone, BUT, he's just a tough sob and plays through it. He gets hurt a lot tho.

    • @reggiemiller6274
      @reggiemiller6274 3 роки тому +8

      10 years no chip lol He’s so whack he made Megatron retire🤣

    • @dr_reyes_2k
      @dr_reyes_2k 3 роки тому +38

      @@reggiemiller6274 imagine being this stupid

    • @justinsimmons1738
      @justinsimmons1738 3 роки тому +14

      @@reggiemiller6274 i mean, if u dont watch football, just say that

  • @anthonymendez1997
    @anthonymendez1997 3 роки тому +501

    Jared Goff may be the only person this year who will move from LA to Detroit.

    • @chickenbotquack8245
      @chickenbotquack8245 3 роки тому +42

      He’d the only one ever not just this year lmao

    • @peacewarrior9920
      @peacewarrior9920 3 роки тому +112

      @@chickenbotquack8245 there’s also washed Blake griffin from clippers to pistons lol

    • @uploaddude5438
      @uploaddude5438 3 роки тому +30

      Anthony Lynn

    • @anthonymendez1997
      @anthonymendez1997 3 роки тому +3

      @@peacewarrior9920 touché

    • @anthonymendez1997
      @anthonymendez1997 3 роки тому +7

      @WORKAHOLIC X I feel sorry for you. Nobody wants to go to Detroit.

  • @entrepreneurialhacks1255
    @entrepreneurialhacks1255 3 роки тому +422

    Max is the most logical but Stephan a is just crazy so idk who my favorite is

    • @lk5388
      @lk5388 3 роки тому +18

      Sas is the new skip bayless.

    • @entrepreneurialhacks1255
      @entrepreneurialhacks1255 3 роки тому

      @@lk5388 lol

    • @dudochalmers10
      @dudochalmers10 3 роки тому +1

      @@lk5388 no, sas doesn’t have the crazy takes

    • @dogsbreakfast4952
      @dogsbreakfast4952 3 роки тому +3

      Max is far from logical

    • @micah4494
      @micah4494 3 роки тому +2

      At this point I just think SAS tries so hard to disagree with Max on every take that he just sounds stupid now

  • @brucekatsumata5808
    @brucekatsumata5808 2 роки тому +4

    #1 Article that has aged badly due to SB LVI Champions Los Angeles Rams - see No Look pass to Kupp

  • @Kennyisdarkvanilla
    @Kennyisdarkvanilla 3 роки тому +280

    This is one of those segments where I feel Stephen A probably agrees with Max but was told by ESPN he has to disagree.

    • @TheHerrMan
      @TheHerrMan 3 роки тому +3

      Taking one for the team. But if you're gonna disagree you have to do something like revoke his license to talk football😂

    • @marvinjazzhands251
      @marvinjazzhands251 3 роки тому +2

      Well what sort of debate would it be, if both parties agreed 😂 Show has to follow a discussion format. It wouldn't be this forced then.

    • @agentcodybanx8909
      @agentcodybanx8909 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. He did say that he agrees with Max's point but "respectfully disagrees" which is basically ESPN saying "take the other side"

    • @dawsnoshift
      @dawsnoshift 3 роки тому +6

      Nah Stephen A is right

    • @socallawrence
      @socallawrence 3 роки тому +1

      Did you even watch the video bro? He explains why he “respectfully” disagrees with Max you goof

  • @Louie828
    @Louie828 2 роки тому +4

    Well the first guys opinion aged like spoiled milk

  • @mrp5150
    @mrp5150 2 роки тому +4

    This hasn’t aged well for Max. Hahahahahah. What a clown!!!

  • @burneraccount4576
    @burneraccount4576 3 роки тому +316

    I’m surprised Stephen A Smith didn’t start yelling

    • @moalston4203
      @moalston4203 3 роки тому

      When he does it is funny as heck like what the heck

    • @wav-e392
      @wav-e392 3 роки тому +1

      Well your wrong and here's why.

    • @moalston4203
      @moalston4203 3 роки тому

      @@wav-e392 why why oh why

    • @wav-e392
      @wav-e392 3 роки тому +6

      @@moalston4203 Because I've known Matthew Stafford for years, and He's my brother from another.

    • @THEEJoeSmith
      @THEEJoeSmith 3 роки тому +1

      I see you everywhere I want my ones

  • @Who_Dat_Don
    @Who_Dat_Don 2 роки тому +6

    January 14, 2022. Just checking to see how well this aged.

    • @Johenz
      @Johenz 7 місяців тому +1

      2024 it aged well. Lions went far with goff

  • @Chris-jt4pl
    @Chris-jt4pl 2 роки тому +3

    hahahahaha of course max couldn’t have been more wrong. what else is new!

  • @hamzabhatti_24
    @hamzabhatti_24 2 роки тому +7

    Whose here after the Rams won the Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford

  • @JamaalSTL
    @JamaalSTL 2 роки тому +20

    Just here to say a year later Stafford took them to the Super Bowl. I wish shows would look back on the bad takes they have.

    • @Johenz
      @Johenz 7 місяців тому

      Now they’re average

  • @eduardosapinho
    @eduardosapinho 3 роки тому +283

    As long as S.A. don’t talk about galvanizing the troops around him I am good

    • @BDFfortyfour
      @BDFfortyfour 3 роки тому +24

      🤣🤣

    • @simonkhiev1747
      @simonkhiev1747 3 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @factsonly6903
      @factsonly6903 3 роки тому +1

      😭😭😭😭😭

    • @ccho907
      @ccho907 3 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @theyreEatingthedogs
      @theyreEatingthedogs 3 роки тому

      @Anthony Simmons Detroit sucked as a organization and Stafford is not the most charismatic fella ever. They squeezed all they could from it. Imo 50/50

  • @MorningPeacock97
    @MorningPeacock97 2 роки тому +4

    I hope this ages even worse in these next two weeks

  • @kdubbss0583
    @kdubbss0583 3 роки тому +231

    All I know is that there are NO MORE excuses for Matthew Stafford. He’s in the most ideal situation (compared to Goff), with a great defense, good weapons and a great coach. He better perform.

    • @timothylites3653
      @timothylites3653 3 роки тому +7

      Most ideal? No not the most ideal. Most ideal would be NO or Kansas City. Rams top 6 tho for sure. KC, NO, SF, TB, GB, LAR. Are the best places to be, Good d, Great coaching, Good O, Cordinators are all good/great.

    • @kdubbss0583
      @kdubbss0583 3 роки тому +11

      @@timothylites3653 I’m talking about in regards to the trade and his situation compared to Goff’s. And all the top ones you mentioned have a QB in place. I wouldn’t really put NO in that category.

    • @addictedtoyoutubecomments5950
      @addictedtoyoutubecomments5950 3 роки тому +1

      Imo you trade to get significantly better, both QBs are average to below average. Could have easily been a straight up trade w/Ramsey offering a 2nd rounder
      Neither team will be a top 8 team next year

    • @HendersonHinchfinch
      @HendersonHinchfinch 3 роки тому +5

      He will perform

    • @TheMjl31
      @TheMjl31 3 роки тому +6

      My boy is gonna light some fools up

  • @anonymoususer450
    @anonymoususer450 2 роки тому +18

    Where did the extra 2 1st round picks go? Engineering the game winning TD drive in the Super Bowl with a star wide receiver out of the game vs 3-13-1. That's where they went

    • @Johenz
      @Johenz 7 місяців тому

      Now they’re 12-5 nfc championship game

  • @Drewski-jf9jr
    @Drewski-jf9jr 3 роки тому +147

    So happy for Stafford. Definitely deserves a good team for once

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 3 роки тому +6

      Dude chokes in clutch. Anyone watching Lions would know. Had Megatron and couldn’t do squat.

    • @thatman3955
      @thatman3955 3 роки тому +15

      @@DKN808 he has the most game winning drives since he’s been in the league..

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 3 роки тому +1

      And how’d that translate to playoff wins? Thought so.

    • @brycebrooks8484
      @brycebrooks8484 3 роки тому +8

      @@DKN808 you've literally never watched a Lions game

    • @rushrush1209
      @rushrush1209 3 роки тому

      He now plays on a team with a strong defense. That's been a long time coming for Stafford.

  • @Astrokidd69
    @Astrokidd69 2 роки тому +20

    HERE AFTER THE SUPER BOWL ALWAYS HAD FAITH IN HIM AFTER WATCHING AND HEARING ALL THE RESPECT THE LEAGUE GAVE HIM

  • @joshallen7242
    @joshallen7242 3 роки тому +350

    max talking alot more facts than stephen a recently

    • @pmarprim2662
      @pmarprim2662 3 роки тому +1

      That's shocking

    • @aroperdope
      @aroperdope 3 роки тому +2

      Instead of wife swap... It's QB swap

    • @jonahcannon2820
      @jonahcannon2820 3 роки тому +2

      U should change ur pfp to josh Allen

    • @anthony9031
      @anthony9031 3 роки тому +5

      Only thing Max did was hate on Brady for no reason other than that he is ok

    • @copolla67
      @copolla67 3 роки тому +1

      Im noticing that too

  • @joshuaanthony3262
    @joshuaanthony3262 3 роки тому +36

    lmaooo max sleeping on stafford. anyone who is a vikings fan knows stafford is a straight up killer whose been on a bad team forever

    • @jackgoff69
      @jackgoff69 3 роки тому +6

      As a Rams fan, I have NFC North fans, be it Bears fans, Packer fans, Vikings fans, and Lions fans all telling me on Twitter that Matthew Stafford is a bonafide gunslinger when I was mad that we gave up so much draft capital.

    • @TheFeezy777
      @TheFeezy777 3 роки тому +7

      Yes he been on a bad team, but he still had weapons though

    • @camknight
      @camknight 3 роки тому

      We weren’t always bad I don’t know where you’re getting this from and the defense was great the years they made the playoffs

    • @TheFeezy777
      @TheFeezy777 3 роки тому +5

      @Chris Strebeck stafford is just your average QB. Nothing really special. Remind me how many playoff wins he had again?

    • @mkprarat77
      @mkprarat77 3 роки тому +1

      Listen to Joshua Anthony, right on the money. You can rub your facts in your chest. Detroit Lions is what throws you facts out the window . Never won a playoff game you say? Rub that in your chest too and thank the officials for absolutely STEALING that playing game against the cowboys . If that didn't happen that team could have won the Superbowl. That's fact

  • @SemperCopacetic
    @SemperCopacetic 2 роки тому +4

    Who else watching this after Matthew Stafford & the Rams are headed to the SuperBowl after beating the 49ers in the NFC championship? 🤣🤣🙋🏽

  • @jayrecamadas5007
    @jayrecamadas5007 2 роки тому +2

    Good trade maxxxxxxx Superbowl Champssss!!!! 2022

  • @HHHH-rr4gl
    @HHHH-rr4gl 2 роки тому +3

    Who’s here after Stanford won super bowl ?

  • @bentambling5235
    @bentambling5235 2 роки тому +2

    Lol, so Max...1 yr later, do you still think this is a bad trade for the Rams?

  • @tzaryczny
    @tzaryczny 2 роки тому +6

    this has aged so well

  • @CurlyM8
    @CurlyM8 2 роки тому +2

    matthew stafford just won a super bowl by the way

  • @masontronsor2734
    @masontronsor2734 3 роки тому +53

    Max: “The all-time talents are at the top of the draft”
    Tom Brady: Watch me this weekend

    • @malcolmmcconner4851
      @malcolmmcconner4851 3 роки тому +1

      HA! He is definitely an anomaly lol

    • @robertlind1511
      @robertlind1511 3 роки тому +2

      Tom Brady is a one in a billionaire thou people.

    • @ggmuhd3890
      @ggmuhd3890 3 роки тому +5

      Drew Brees was picked in 2nd round and russel Wilson was picked in 3rd round

    • @jackmcg0
      @jackmcg0 3 роки тому

      @Israel Diaz the overtime win in the super bowl was boring?*

    • @mosescarter5980
      @mosescarter5980 3 роки тому

      @Israel Diaz not every year but that last time he was there had to be the worst super bowl ever

  • @adenconnor1031
    @adenconnor1031 3 роки тому +34

    stafford is literally the opposite of injury prone. dude went 8 straight years without missing a game.

    • @matthewdubay1180
      @matthewdubay1180 3 роки тому

      Another example of Stephen A. Smith not really knowing what he is talking about. He is entertaining tho

    • @The-Heart-Will-Testify
      @The-Heart-Will-Testify 3 роки тому

      8 losing seasons too

    • @shotbynolan1705
      @shotbynolan1705 3 роки тому

      They have access to this information and still be wrong

    • @austinhowser7838
      @austinhowser7838 3 роки тому

      @@The-Heart-Will-Testify Mahomes wouldn’t win in Detroit, they are just that bad.

  • @mybricksters9800
    @mybricksters9800 2 роки тому +7

    I’ve been a lions fan for like ten years now. When they traded Stafford I became a Rams fan. I was so happy Stafford got a second chance with a good team. I knew he would do well. Now he’s a super bowl champion. F all the haters lol.

  • @deronmohammed7301
    @deronmohammed7301 3 роки тому +4

    Max was horribly wrong on this one

  • @mortylindley
    @mortylindley 2 роки тому +3

    0:04 reminds me why I don’t miss max Kellerman

  • @GIJosep
    @GIJosep 3 роки тому +2

    What if this ends up being the reverse of the Bobby Layne curse?!? Stafford was basically like the reincarnation of Layne; went to the same high school in Texas (Highland Park) and even broke his records in Detroit.
    The Lions were dominant in the pre-1970 Super Bowl era with Layne; winning the NFL Championship in 1952, 1953 and 1957 (They also won in 1935 sans Layne).
    In 1958, Detroit traded Layne to the Steelers and he supposedly said that the Lions "wouldn't win for 50 years." Since then the Lions plummeted (especially in 2008...) while the Steelers became dominant, having won 6 Super Bowls.
    Fast forward to now, Stafford will be leaving Detroit on good terms (the opposite of what happened to Layne), whereas Goff is leaving the L.A. Rams in a slightly similar fashion to how Layne left.
    So could it be possible? Maybe. Am I just being overly hopeful? Maybe. Also, could this just be an extension of the curse and the Lions continue in a downward spiral indefinitely? Unfortunately, more likey. Haha
    Either way, I wish everyone involved success and will now be rooting for both the Lions (and Goff) as well as Stafford with the Rams.

  • @shakiemjeanjoseph428
    @shakiemjeanjoseph428 2 роки тому +3

    RAMS won the trade and Super Bowl 56 in SOFI Stadium 🔵🟡⚪️🐏🏆

  • @aidanholihan466
    @aidanholihan466 3 роки тому +59

    “You can’t find Aaron Donald in the second round”
    You also can’t find him with the 21st pick in the first round

    • @AllThingsKen
      @AllThingsKen 3 роки тому +2

      ummmm yea u can

    • @jakegraham3758
      @jakegraham3758 3 роки тому +6

      The rams are great at drafting 🤷🏻‍♂️ no one does more with less than we do in the draft and when you look at the value we get you can’t argue with that

    • @alexanderg.i1991
      @alexanderg.i1991 3 роки тому +2

      I mean there’s a ton of hall of famers who’ve been drafted after the first round, so the players are there.

    • @jakegraham3758
      @jakegraham3758 3 роки тому +2

      @Anthony Simmons my point is that the picks are irrelevant and we saved 20 million almost annually and got a better player....you maybe the only person who considers stafford a underachiever

    • @jay_1212
      @jay_1212 3 роки тому

      @Anthony Simmons To be fair that underachiever was on the lions. Stafford is criminally underrated and has had a lack of weapons for almost his entire career. He’s definitely better than Goff

  • @viralbuthow000
    @viralbuthow000 3 роки тому +19

    "I get what you're saying Kellerman, but I will respectfully disagree ... because ESPN depends on it."

  • @TheProphegy
    @TheProphegy 3 роки тому +18

    Remember how Tannehill was in Miami? Remember how he’s been balling since being in Tennessee with actual competent coaching? Stafford is more talented then he is and now Stafford has an actual team and coach! Can’t wait to watch Matt ball out.

    • @justinalley3399
      @justinalley3399 3 роки тому +1

      eddie cardell not just that all of staffords coachs were all defensive coachs this is his first offenseive head coach hes ever had

    • @atoz4399
      @atoz4399 3 роки тому +2

      @@justinalley3399 Jim Caldwell was offensive coach too. However, they never head a great offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator at the same time. It is a team sport. Stafford can't do it all. The Lions last year were dead last in defense. Your not going to win many ball games when your defense gives up 400+ yards a game and 30+ points a game. It is no secret to Matt Stafford is a top 10 QB who has had the misfortune of playing on a completely mismanaged team of the Detroit Lions. I live in Michigan and God knows I'll be glad if Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes work out. Yet to be determined. I definitely want Stafford to win a Super Bowl with the Rams. This way he can get in the HOF. God knows he deserves it.

  • @maddenmanager6908
    @maddenmanager6908 3 роки тому +41

    If the lions got this for stafford what’s the Texans gonna get for watson

    • @chrisrhinehart45
      @chrisrhinehart45 3 роки тому +13

      One of the owners children

    • @julianespino2942
      @julianespino2942 3 роки тому

      I'm a bears fan so I'm going to say mack attack.

    • @Rancoroth419
      @Rancoroth419 3 роки тому

      Nothing, cuz they won't trade him.

    • @sockondik12
      @sockondik12 3 роки тому +2

      Considering what the Texans got for Hopkins it's a toss up

    • @_SC00T
      @_SC00T 3 роки тому +4

      Rams gave up so much for the Lions to take that massive contract off their hands.

  • @geneferguson1163
    @geneferguson1163 2 роки тому +2

    They have to win a Super Bowl in 2 years Max says. They won in Stafford's first year. Has Max apologized to Matthew Stafford? I think not.

  • @madaxeman9386
    @madaxeman9386 2 роки тому +8

    Stafford didn't just ride a stacked team to the SB win, but he carried the team with 3 game winning drives which was never done before. Also, he was the first QB to come back from a 10 point 4th quarter deficit in the conference championship game (49er game). And the no look pass in the SB with everything's on the line is just insane.

  • @luke8536
    @luke8536 3 роки тому +5

    This is a short term league. When you are one or two pieces away.. you have to go get those pieces. Players’ lifespans are too short and unpredictable to think long term. Their core group is only getting older and more impatient with every season. Rams won the deal easy if Stafford lifts them over the hump

  • @mukundyadav6913
    @mukundyadav6913 3 роки тому +27

    Goff about to be NFL's version of Blake Griffin

    • @levelupwithcutts
      @levelupwithcutts 3 роки тому

      Awesome comment

    • @plainbagel9192
      @plainbagel9192 3 роки тому

      A comedian?

    • @Rancoroth419
      @Rancoroth419 3 роки тому

      Goff's going to be Archie Manning up in Detroit, but less mobile.

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 3 роки тому

      I don’t think it’s exclusive to Goff. Stick any top QB in DET and the odds are against them.

    • @The-Heart-Will-Testify
      @The-Heart-Will-Testify 3 роки тому

      Atleast griffin was a former all-star..

  • @shaunbang
    @shaunbang 2 роки тому +12

    Well Stafford is also a number one pick that actually has proven his worth as well as ability. Even though I don’t like the rams gave away all the first round picks, football is a sport in which you can still find tons of value in the entire draft with even high picks often not panning out at all. Goff is a good example being number 1 and being a decent QB but with all the benefits he has with being on such a good team with the rams and QB friendly coach, he isn’t anywhere near Stafford. You can’t have a team like the rams with great players like Aaron Donald, jalen Ramsay, and no Von Miller and OBJ just to lose solely because of your QB lacking which another perfect example oddly enough is the team the Rams beat to go to the Super Bowl in the Niners as the Niners have absolutely everything a team needs to be a dominant winning team in the NFL on both ends but they don’t have a reliable QB that literally is the sole reason why they lost the Super Bowl and now lost in the NFC chip. Goff proved that he isn’t ready to be a winning QB and has way too much to learn in order to be a consistent and reliable QB. If the Rams don’t win the super bowl this years then you could say this trade was not worth it but it’ll never be a bad or stupid trade.

    • @buddygass3728
      @buddygass3728 2 роки тому

      1st round picks are the most overrated ever

  • @illtrollurmom
    @illtrollurmom 3 роки тому +51

    max doesn’t realize that one of those first was probably for the lions to take goffs gigantic contract, he’s average at best

    • @John-jm4nv
      @John-jm4nv 3 роки тому +2

      They still gave up too much. Idc how u slice it ! .

    • @jasonhunt2909
      @jasonhunt2909 3 роки тому +1

      They gave up the farm to absorb his bad contract.

    • @quanbrooklynkid7776
      @quanbrooklynkid7776 3 роки тому

      L

    • @fwd105
      @fwd105 3 роки тому +2

      Have you reviewed the contract and the impact or just regurgitating what you've heard or read elsewhere?

    • @uncleshannon1756
      @uncleshannon1756 3 роки тому +2

      @@John-jm4nv we gave up 2 late first round picks those are hit or miss we draft better after the first round anyway cam Akers cooper Kupp Jefferson etc we got a first round pick in 2024 this wasn’t a bad trade at all we been making the playoffs without first round picks

  • @dsugimoto313
    @dsugimoto313 11 місяців тому +2

    It's 2023 - seems like it was a win for both teams.

  • @michaelshan22
    @michaelshan22 3 роки тому +48

    This feels like an NBA trade lol. Star player sent to a contender for multiple first round picks along with a bad contract player to create the cap space for the star.

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 3 роки тому

      Agreed that's exactly what it looks like. But do the Lions have the sense to make those picks count ?
      Rams might want one of those picks in a few years for a new qb

    • @newrecruit100
      @newrecruit100 3 роки тому +2

      @@gourami7 not really. QBs playing in to their 40s. Stafford has a least 5 years left. They looked at their current roster and said you gotta go for it. No need to keep running it back

    • @himmie1
      @himmie1 3 роки тому +6

      Goff isnt as bad as people are acting like he is

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 3 роки тому

      @@newrecruit100 Who says he has 5 years left ?
      Not many qbs playing till 40 and Stafford has been beaten up at the Lions

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 3 роки тому

      michael Shan: I think Detroit won the trade. Rams mortgaged their future. Meanwhile the bad contract actually serves a purpose for lions moving forward- it helps them suck royally so they will get high draft stocks for a couple yrs, winning 2 or 3 games instead of 6.

  • @neerajpatil9055
    @neerajpatil9055 2 роки тому +1

    Who is here after matthew stafford won the superbowl

  • @zeke9472
    @zeke9472 3 роки тому +25

    Sent Goff to live and play in Detroit, they Blake Griffin'd him 😂

    • @matthewdubay1180
      @matthewdubay1180 3 роки тому +4

      Boo that. Detroit is a great sports town, even Suh just said he loved this town. Lions blow for sure, but in my lifetime, 3 nba championships, four stanley cups, 3 pennants and one world series. Msu and um also have basketball and football national championships to their name.

    • @alojr35
      @alojr35 3 роки тому

      @@matthewdubay1180 uhh the wings have 11 Stanley cups. Unless you forgot shanahan fedorov and Stevie Y domonic hasek

    • @matthewdubay1180
      @matthewdubay1180 3 роки тому

      @@alojr35 i believe i wrote " in my lifetime" which is forty years now. Did the red wings win 11 cups since 1980?

    • @matthewdubay1180
      @matthewdubay1180 3 роки тому

      @@alojr35 i guess if we are talking all time, i forgot the 1935, 1945, and 1968 world series wins. Like i said, in my lifetime. My bad for not mentioning michigans 1901, national football championship, i was just a pup back then

  • @shanerogalski4604
    @shanerogalski4604 11 місяців тому +2

    Both teams won this trade.

  • @jennyneon
    @jennyneon 3 роки тому +20

    *At this point, I can already hear the yelling before I even clicked the video.*

  • @kidfury2451
    @kidfury2451 2 роки тому +1

    This aged well 😂

  • @jordanuecker7744
    @jordanuecker7744 3 роки тому +18

    As a packer fan. Always had a lot of respect for Stafford. He’s been the lions only shot at a legitimate team. Brees level talent that doesn’t get the credit because...You know....The Lions. Hope the best for him.

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 3 роки тому

      Yeah he only had MEGATRON...he had no weapons lol.

    • @jordanuecker7744
      @jordanuecker7744 3 роки тому

      @@DKN808 yeah but even then he was throwing dimes to his smaller wide receivers after megatron left

    • @lenispicker69
      @lenispicker69 2 роки тому

      @@DKN808 ratio

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 2 роки тому

      @Lenis Picker…come back to troll after 11 months. Loser 🚨

    • @jordanuecker7744
      @jordanuecker7744 2 роки тому

      @@DKN808 he is going to the Super Bowl after all

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 2 роки тому +1

    The Rams won this trade

  • @traycannon5793
    @traycannon5793 3 роки тому +16

    Stafford is SO underrated. In terms of talent at the QB position, he’s definitely up there. Excited to see what he does now that he’s out of Detroit

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 3 роки тому +4

      10yrs = 0-3 playoffs. Underrated?

    • @traycannon5793
      @traycannon5793 3 роки тому +3

      @@DKN808 Hes never had a good defense, the Detroit front office is absolutely atrocious. I think if they ever even got a hint of a running attack, a competent coaching staff, and a defense that can hold their own things would be different. Also Megatron retiring so soon plays a part

    • @traycannon5793
      @traycannon5793 3 роки тому +1

      @@DKN808 him being on the rams gives him a better chance to actually do something. So like i said , excited to see what happens.

    • @lenispicker69
      @lenispicker69 2 роки тому +3

      @@DKN808 L bozo

    • @exodia3625
      @exodia3625 2 роки тому +1

      @@DKN808 superbowl bound

  • @jayhernandez6370
    @jayhernandez6370 2 роки тому +1

    *Rams win the Superbowl*
    “Stafford has ONE ring only ONE he BARLEY beat Brady and nearly choked in that game, not to mention it wasn’t the offense or him that won it was their defense! Aaron Donald is still better then Stafford and there’s no way Stafford would’ve won if it wasn’t for Donald Ramsey and the rest of their powerful defense!” - Max Kellerman

  • @jhollis4905
    @jhollis4905 3 роки тому +15

    I love how max tries to say if he was general manager like he even knows football. That dude just reading from a script.

    • @jhollis4905
      @jhollis4905 3 роки тому

      @@manmug183 you really thing ESPN let’s there talking heads say whatever they want.

    • @jhollis4905
      @jhollis4905 3 роки тому

      I didn’t say he didn’t write them but I’m sure he don’t write them all.

    • @jhollis4905
      @jhollis4905 3 роки тому

      Not moving anything your one that that’s being maxes white knight. It’s common knowledge that’s most ESPN anchors started as sports writers All I said was he was reading from script don’t matter who wrote it. What I was more saying whatever he says is vented by the network regardless of who wrote it.

  • @ryanj.butcher3300
    @ryanj.butcher3300 2 роки тому +1

    Boy this aged well 🙄😂🤣

  • @adamc7537
    @adamc7537 3 роки тому +16

    This is most definitely a better trade for the Lions.

    • @takier3
      @takier3 3 роки тому

      Exactly. Only issue is goffs huge contract but if he doesn't succeed that just benefits Detroit more. Detroit got a bunch of picks for him. They will fall in the 20-32 range but still Detroit needs help real bad

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 3 роки тому +1

      Definitely better for Lions. They could gamble with Goff as they have 2 firsts rnds for insurance.

    • @brad4305
      @brad4305 2 роки тому +3

      This aged well

  • @jsbogen
    @jsbogen 2 роки тому +2

    You aren't finding Donald or Ramsey at 32 either. Steven A was right on with the analysis here. This is a team that was a top contender, but was a legit franchise QB away. They got one for a good value because of the lack of wins on the Lions. As Stephen A thought, he Rams felt he was capable of being a big time QB. There were no more seasons to waste with this talent and he was likely the only real option. McVay and Snead thought he had the intelligence and physical abiiity to run his offense and take the Rams to a championship and he was right. Even though he wasn't flawless, anyone who watches all the Rams games can see what a difference he made over Goff. He'll be even better next year.

  • @BBBYpsi
    @BBBYpsi 3 роки тому +3

    Stafford has probably had 40-50 TD's dropped on him plus 40-50 of his Int's went thru receivers hands. But that does not show up in stats.

  • @bensztainberg8241
    @bensztainberg8241 3 роки тому +2

    Stafford is injury prone? Come on steven A. He played 136 games straight and he’s literally played 16 games 10/12 of his season

  • @nikkibauer6130
    @nikkibauer6130 3 роки тому +6

    matthew stafford from 2011-2018 didnt miss a game and started every game in 2020 im just saying injury prone

  • @chardywhopper4000
    @chardywhopper4000 2 роки тому +1

    "u have to win a Superbowl in the next two or so years":)

  • @sports3117
    @sports3117 3 роки тому +10

    The NFC West is the best division in football

  • @rrba1089
    @rrba1089 2 роки тому +1

    I’m from the future and this video has aged like milk.

  • @Elite90s
    @Elite90s 3 роки тому +6

    Stafford is an upgrade but that's alot for him.

    • @batuhanbakrc4530
      @batuhanbakrc4530 3 роки тому +3

      Rams gave up 1 first round pick for Stafford and 1 first round pick to get rid of Goff and his contract. They want to win now. They had to do it.

    • @uncleshannon1756
      @uncleshannon1756 3 роки тому

      @@batuhanbakrc4530 they rather us waste ad and Ramsey’s prime for some late first round picks that’s hit or miss

    • @batuhanbakrc4530
      @batuhanbakrc4530 3 роки тому +1

      @@uncleshannon1756 Yes. You gotta risk it for the biscuit.

    • @uncleshannon1756
      @uncleshannon1756 3 роки тому

      @@batuhanbakrc4530 facts lol

  • @craigwilson3532
    @craigwilson3532 2 роки тому +1

    Look at Stafford's career numbers n tell me he's not great

  • @brandongribble
    @brandongribble 3 роки тому +18

    Getting rid of Goff's contract makes the Rams winners.

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 3 роки тому +3

      Makes them look really stupid actually. Fans could see Goff regressed before his big contract yet they gave him one anyway. Now trade him + 2 first rounders.
      Dumb. Stafford if not Elite.

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 3 роки тому +2

      @@DKN808 he's gonna be in that offense. Not too many guys that can sling it like Stafford around the league. He's easily got a top 5 arm, if not top3. I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the mvp race next year

    • @austinhowser7838
      @austinhowser7838 3 роки тому

      @@joshlewis575 slow down. He’s good but he’s not elite.

    • @hattershouse710
      @hattershouse710 2 роки тому

      @@DKN808 You were trolling on this post now you look dumb AF

    • @squanchy2925
      @squanchy2925 2 роки тому

      @@austinhowser7838 He absolutely is elite and you'd know that if you listened to other players and coaches talk about him.

  • @Israelmechanic
    @Israelmechanic 2 роки тому +1

    They just signed Von Miller, this isn't ageing well...

  • @warpig4942
    @warpig4942 3 роки тому +11

    "Injury prone" Matthew Stafford is 7th on the list of most QB starts in a row, 136 starts in a row from 2011-2019.

    • @larrylee405
      @larrylee405 3 роки тому +1

      Bro stafford has a LONG injury history in Detroit. It doesn’t matter if you play while your injured instead of sit. Your STILL INJURED

    • @MikeLaundry
      @MikeLaundry Рік тому

      Oops.

  • @AdhiV1234
    @AdhiV1234 2 роки тому +1

    Who’s here after the Rams victory against Buccaneers? 😂

  • @kei-tronbell7114
    @kei-tronbell7114 3 роки тому +5

    This is a bad trade for the rams but a good one for the lions if I’m giving up 2 first round picks I’m getting Watson 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @cjfrm3658
      @cjfrm3658 3 роки тому +1

      They Get Rid Of The Contract

    • @alexanderg.i1991
      @alexanderg.i1991 3 роки тому

      You can’t get Watson for 2 firsts, all reports say the offers start at 3.

    • @pmarprim2662
      @pmarprim2662 3 роки тому

      Rams are idiots. More bonehead moves from the Rams AGAIN

    • @John-jm4nv
      @John-jm4nv 3 роки тому +1

      @@cjfrm3658 they still gave up too much!!! They should've got Watson then .

    • @cjfrm3658
      @cjfrm3658 3 роки тому

      @@John-jm4nv I Don't Disagree

  • @porterIV
    @porterIV 2 роки тому +2

    Rewatching this after Stafford just brought the Rams the the Super Bowl 😎

  • @deluxeh0
    @deluxeh0 3 роки тому +3

    Injury prone?? SAS is a noob.

  • @hughjassol2072
    @hughjassol2072 2 роки тому +1

    Kupp was drafted 3rd round. Never forget

  • @DavidJ222
    @DavidJ222 3 роки тому +12

    Jared Goff's career is officially over. 😂😆

    • @moalston4203
      @moalston4203 3 роки тому +3

      Kinda in a way

    • @pmarprim2662
      @pmarprim2662 3 роки тому +3

      I don't think so. I think he could strive in New England not unless the Lions truly kill his career first

    • @DavidJ222
      @DavidJ222 3 роки тому +6

      @@pmarprim2662
      Oh the Lions will definitely kill his career.😄

    • @quanbrooklynkid7776
      @quanbrooklynkid7776 3 роки тому +1

      What's so funny bout that

    • @tmc31390
      @tmc31390 3 роки тому +1

      @@pmarprim2662 he ain’t making it to New England. Besides, if Belichick is trading for any QB, it will most likely be Jimmy G.

  • @davidlindstrom2687
    @davidlindstrom2687 2 роки тому +1

    Hmm, this hasn't aged well for Kellerman.

  • @sergiomuniz350
    @sergiomuniz350 3 роки тому +3

    I think the important thing is that the lions took the remaining years of goffs contract which will free up cap space the following years after 2021

  • @supamadulaoblongatajr.8365
    @supamadulaoblongatajr.8365 3 роки тому +2

    Max will eat his words. Stafford with good team is a mvp caliber type qb. Detroit lions tried to kill another career.

  • @fabioj-
    @fabioj- 3 роки тому +6

    Stafford got shut out by the Panthers. You'll win one extra game with Stafford congrats LA.

  • @demetriusmayfield2263
    @demetriusmayfield2263 2 роки тому +1

    And now he’s going to the super bowl. GOOD TRADE…. ✅

    • @DKN808
      @DKN808 2 роки тому

      They have to WIN the SB. They already got there with Goff. That’s the whole point of conversation.

  • @Ironmamba824
    @Ironmamba824 3 роки тому +6

    When Steven A said Mired and talked about LA & picks, Flashbacks of the Kwame Brown trade flashed in my Mind

  • @rokyy4
    @rokyy4 2 роки тому +1

    Aged like milk!

  • @Lycan4647
    @Lycan4647 3 роки тому +5

    Matthew Stafford is the most underrated QB I've ever seen. Top 7 arm talent who happened to be in the worst possible situation aka Detroit. He's gonna make that Rams team an opponent no one wants to see come playoff time next year

    • @redh8606
      @redh8606 3 роки тому

      Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders know all bout that

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 3 роки тому

      I believe Stafford set an NFL record for most pass attempts in a single season (727).
      Jared Goof would never.

    • @robertlind1511
      @robertlind1511 3 роки тому

      Watson is 100 times than Stafford. Stafford is good but not great

  • @NIN10DOXD
    @NIN10DOXD 3 роки тому +2

    Stafford is the fastest to every passing yard landmark in NFL history up to this point. The Rams got a really good piece that could help them get back to the Super Bowl.

  • @julienforletta7896
    @julienforletta7896 3 роки тому +13

    One of the few times I’ve ever agreed with Stephen a when it comes to football. Nfl super bowl windows are small, very small. This trade sent an important messsge to their team that they’re going for it now. They had to. Goff wasn’t that dude.

    • @kdubbss0583
      @kdubbss0583 3 роки тому +1

      Well they better pray Stafford is, because they went to playoffs with Goff three out of four years and a Super Bowl appearance. If Stafford doesn’t win Super Bowl or at least get to one, what will be the excuse then?

    • @allforgreatness9883
      @allforgreatness9883 3 роки тому

      @@kdubbss0583 Goff inconsistency hurt the rams in those playoff games.

    • @kdubbss0583
      @kdubbss0583 3 роки тому

      @@allforgreatness9883 which playoff games are you’re referring to?

    • @julienforletta7896
      @julienforletta7896 3 роки тому +1

      @@kdubbss0583 maybe the super bowl where he lead his team to 3 points ...

    • @alexwang2252
      @alexwang2252 2 роки тому

      @@kdubbss0583 dont need no excuses

  • @eddieanderson9399
    @eddieanderson9399 2 роки тому +2

    Now he'll say... It's only a good trade if the Rams win multiple Superbowls with him 😂

  • @oats2949
    @oats2949 3 роки тому +40

    Stafford finally has a defense

  • @nickjohnbrodeur
    @nickjohnbrodeur 2 роки тому +1

    When First Take was First Take

  • @omgDavidGlasper
    @omgDavidGlasper 3 роки тому +3

    Good luck Matt Stafford and Rams! My favorite player of all time!

  • @davonsears3765
    @davonsears3765 2 роки тому +1

    This video has not aged well

  • @04pistons23
    @04pistons23 3 роки тому +18

    World about to see how good Stafford is narratives going to change

    • @Buzzer2Buzzer
      @Buzzer2Buzzer 3 роки тому

      Yes! Hey man, we are a group of high school students who run our own sports talk show from the Chicago area and talk about the latest NBA/NFL developments, providing fresh takes including on this trade between the Lions and Rams. Would highly appreciate any support!

    • @gadget00
      @gadget00 3 роки тому

      I just hope he-s as "good" as apparently everybody says he is

    • @austintrummel8229
      @austintrummel8229 3 роки тому

      Stafford is 10-66 against teams over .500 he's not that good lol

    • @04pistons23
      @04pistons23 3 роки тому

      @@austintrummel8229 team sport.

    • @austintrummel8229
      @austintrummel8229 3 роки тому

      @@04pistons23 wins are a QB stat. 10-66 isn't proof that he sucks but it's very very very strong evidence he's not that good.

  • @alocup
    @alocup 2 роки тому +2

    Dude you were wrong you need to find a different profession this was a awesome trade that led to the Super Bowl and they won it

  • @nichtniklas4943
    @nichtniklas4943 3 роки тому +12

    What Max doesn't realize is that the Rams are not going to have "high" first round picks and you don't get generational talents late in the first round... At least you shouldn't expect to. I still think they overpaid, but the logic to trade away their first round picks for established players is solid imo

    • @jamieweigold5234
      @jamieweigold5234 3 роки тому

      Agreed. Rams picks next couple years are most likely high 20s at worst.

    • @Rancoroth419
      @Rancoroth419 3 роки тому

      That, and they had to get out of the Goff contract, or waste the careers of the rest of their roster. If Stafford is good for a year or two, that's about how much Whitworth has left in the tank. After that, its a fire sale. How many picks will they get for Donald and Ramsey once their window closes?

  • @jameseldridge3445
    @jameseldridge3445 2 роки тому +1

    Cold take max back at it again lol

  • @mathewleon7839
    @mathewleon7839 3 роки тому +5

    That moment when you realize Wentz

    • @neelshah6528
      @neelshah6528 3 роки тому +2

      Goff has done a lot more in his career than dak. Super bowl appearance, playoff win this season, and a better record than the cowboys the last 4 seasons. When Dak gets paid the cowboys are gonna be even worse

    • @jay_1212
      @jay_1212 3 роки тому

      @@neelshah6528 Achievement wise Goff has done more than all 3 but if we’re talking from purely talent it’s definitely Dak. And I think looking back on this season the cowboys are gonna regret it if they don’t keep Dak.

    • @neelshah6528
      @neelshah6528 3 роки тому +1

      @@jay_1212 why does everyone think that, dak has been surrounded by a good o line, wr, and rb his whole career. Last year couldn’t win in the worst division in football. This year led the league in turnovers until he got hurt. 1-3 record and only win was a miracle onside kick against the Falcons.

    • @Kalinbuggs
      @Kalinbuggs 3 роки тому

      Crazy how tru this is and how close they were 2 years ago

    • @Honestly__now
      @Honestly__now 3 роки тому

      Goff is by far the best of teh 2016 QBs. He will be the last one in the NFL and can turn around the Lions in a few years. It may actually turn to Goff advantage with alll that Draft capital and a great GM with a eye for talent. If the coach is good the Lions can ascend

  • @GodKingKrab
    @GodKingKrab 2 роки тому +1

    Love how Kellerman was saying you don’t get talent like that after the 1st round. Cooper Kupp would beg to differ.