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Manny Ramirez Just CALLED OUT Derek Jeter And Himself With A Good Point
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2024
- Manny Ramirez Just CALLED OUT Derek Jeter And Himself With A Good Point.
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Do you agree with Manny’s point? He’s basically calling out himself and Jeter in a sense where he and Jeter wouldn’t be as successful as they were with the big names that they have without Boston and New York.
I absolutely agree, both would have still been stars but not to the level of being in Boston or New York. The market you’re in can make or break you.
Agree
It may be technically, true, but it's inconsequential.....it's like arguing we should hold something against certain players for the way fate worked out.....these are team sports, of course your team is going to matter.
@@post-leftluddite we need to stop saying certain players are the greatest at their position just cuz of their teams' success tho
@@s.a.d7882 Jor mauer would have been bigger if he played with a bigger market.
Mariners fan here, Tino Martinez became way more known after playing for NYY.
eh, a lot of people know Ken Griffey jr too. i think both Manny and Jeter would've still been known if they had the same all star caliber numbers on a different team
@@gforce97 Tino is no where near Jr. Not the same. One of them is in the HOF, one of them is not. My pt is Tino got more popular on a big market team. Jr was special and yes he'd be popular anywhere, but he'd have been even more so if he was a career NYY.
@@Angelfams Junior's swing would have played anywhere, anytime.
I'm agreeing with you, just felt the need to mention good Griffey Jr. was. 😅
Good point. Edgar Martinez, if he played in NY would have been a 1st ballot HOF player and not taken 10 years to get in.
As a white Sox fan I have to disagree quite a bit I thought tino was a damn good player and well known before he went to the Yankees but that's only my opinion
You have to look at the disrespect to Salvador Perez. If he had hit 48 home runs with the Yankees as a catcher, he would have won the MVP.
wait when did he hit 48 homers thats insane.
2017 Aaron Judge?
Hell yeah
Not saying Manny is wrong either, but not every award is just handed to NY, LA, and Bos
Gtfo the Yankees haven’t had an MVP since 2007 and there has been clear bias from the Writers about not allowing Yankees to win awards
I see some truth to this. For example, look at Mike Trout, he is one of the greatest players in the past 100 years and is still a huge name for baseball but imagine if he would have been playing for a big market team that is always in the playoffs
It Trout's case, it's a bad front office. The Angels are in a big market. The ownership group has made bad decisions that have lead to Trout and the Angels not making the postseason. The owners spend money in Anaheim but none of their signings pan out. Trout deserves better.
Bro he is not one of the greatest players in the past 100 years… don’t get me wrong he’s a great player and future hofer but not one of the greatest
@@lukews3930 you have jeter has your profile picture lmaoooo
@@sirdapperdan2209 nope try again… bro if your gonna insult me at least get it right lol
Trout is far from one of the greatest.
In terms of Manny's perspective, I think he is definitely right about players getting more media recognition and pressure in larger markets. If Harper somehow slipped to number 2 or 3 in the 2010 Draft and went to Pittsburgh or Baltimore, he still would have gotten a lot of attention (like Manny Machado did in Baltimore), but maybe not as much as he got in Washington.
Now some players shudder under the spotlight, and some thrive. Sonny Gray dominated with Oakland, but suffered some regression after he was traded to the Yankees. Max Muncy never did well with Oakland, but broke out after he was traded to the Dodgers. It really depends on the player and the market for success to be determined, but players in bigger markets get more media attention than players in smaller markets. If Muncy broke out in Oakland, fewer people would know who he is, as opposed to now when he is on Los Angeles. I think Manny's comments have validity to them, which makes it exciting whenever I see small market teams succeed in October.
They also get helped by the Umps when they play for big market teams. The small market teams just get screwed.
@@Captain_Neckbeard gtfo of here with that.
If Evan Longoria was on the yanks, he probably would've had the same love as Jeter. Team leader, always came up clutch especially in playoffs, which wasn't as much because he was in the rays, and what Jeter didn't have, good defense
Or he could have wilted being under constant pressure and expectations to perform. It’s a 2 way street
Jeter is really only bad defensively by one metric that seems invented to discredit him. He had a good arm, good fielding percentage, and went back for pop ups better than just about anyone. All those range analytics judge based on the spectacular play, not the common one, and if he really was such a liability on defense then how does he have the greatest winning percentage as a starting shortstop of all time, in teams usually with mediocore ground- ball pitchers?
@@mikesannitti6042 he was on the Yankees? I agree with alot of ur stuff but the winning percentage reason is bad
@@markjohnson3413 well the stat that says he's terrible is defensive wins added, and it's negative. So he supposedly cost his team several wins by being the shortstop. But that didn't seem to play out. Even if the team is good in other places, you'd think if he's so terrible and he was the shortstop for so long it would show up in some tangible way.
Counterpoint: I was a small child living in Georgia when Ken Griffey Jr was the face of baseball. We all turned our hats backwards and tried to match that sweet swing- even the righties.
This is why you always see the full quote or the context behind it. Some want to make it look like he took a shot at Jeter when in reality he was more praising the fan bases and praising Jeter for rising up to it
Big Market teams have overrated players. Simply true! Some of them wouldn't even be Hall of Famers if they played for a team like the Pirates!
yeah, that's a fact of TEAM sports, so what's your point?
That’s what makes Roberto Clemente even more legendary lol
Nobody seems to remember the hall of a career bonds had there before his other half 🤔
@@BOB_983 I wasn’t alive back then, but my sense is that Clemente would have been a legend regardless of where he played, but how much of a mitigating effect did playing in Pittsburgh really have on his fame? He did win two World Series and play in four postseasons with the Pirates, although three of the four did come in his final three seasons. If he’d played most of his career during the 1970s, when the Pirates were one of MLB’s best teams, playing in Pittsburgh certainly wouldn’t have hurt-if anything, it seems to me that he likely would have become a household name much more quickly.
@@ethanniedorowski116 Which begs the question why dig into PED’s when you were already well on your way to becoming a HOF.
Basically what he is saying one player can’t make a difference look at mike trout and ohtani it’s all the core of the team
You know Jeter did get over 3000 hits with a lifetime batting average of .310. he was doing something right.If he would of been with the royals he would of been a star.Remember Jeter played in New York where the pressure to succeed is ginormous.Playing in Kansas City with no pressure Jeter would of probably have even better offensive numbers.Jeter in Kansas would have been a star no doubt.
It doesnt necessarily mean that Jeter would have been the same. The opposing pitchers would have focused much more of making sure Jeter didnt beat them if he were the best hitter on the team.
@@StillProtesting Right Randy the guy batting before and after can determine what pitch’s you get to look at. IMO Jeter thrived under pressure and if he was on a losing team his career numbers might not have as good, but we can never know either way.
@@richardlug6139 That's true. Speculation is dumb. haha
What made Jeter stand out was he was all about winning. He was huge part in creating winning culture for Yankees. Once you have established that culture players that get signed must buy in or not play.
Most players in professional sports would take money over winning in heartbeat . They just want numbers because that's where $ are. It's simply not worth it to sacrifice numbers for winning.
Jeter definitely benefited from being on team that spent money but I think he would be winner wherever he was.
Dude, you put together some really slick videos. Great production and great content. Keep up the great work and I hope all your hard work is being rewarded. Thank you and God bless.
All this is true but it’s Blatant that he’s a yankee hater
1:31 "Hey, everybody! Look at me! I'm Manny being Manny!"
Yankees fan here since mid 90s. Manny Ramirez was the biggest nightmare of a player we ever had to face consistently. That guy hit everything. If he played the Yankees 162x a year he'd be the best of all time
I never saw it as a shot. I always saw it like how you described it. You can be a great player but it’s something different when you do it for a historical franchise. It’s like for basketball magic wouldn’t have been the same if he wasn’t on the Lakers. If you switch Bird and magic they could still be great players but I think something would be missing from their legacy because where they were fit their personality so well it made them even bigger.
You’re my favorite Red Sox Propagandist🤣🤣🤣🤣
George Brett is one of the greatest players of all time … as a lifelong royal. He would be considered the next babe Ruth if he was a yankee 😂
Same with Salvador Perez. If he was the catcher for the yanks or Sox he’d sell 20x the number of jerseys
Brett wouldn't have survived the media attention in a larger market. To much ego, fans would have eaten him alive. Confidence is one thing. Ego is another. Arod is prime example. True yankees fans hate him and to this day #13 will never be retired. His ego wanted attention, but he couldn't preform like he did in Seattle or Texas
@@billybereu2010 you have no clue what you’re even talking about. Any player in the 3000+ hit club could play in any city and in any era
Manny Ramirez, nothing without steroids
Yeah because steroids can instantly turn you into a superstar.
@@blakeoboyle3451 nah they turn a scrawny kid in Cleveland hitting 30 bombs a year into a beast hitting 45-50
@@MG3B92 30 hrs is really good. I haven't looked at the stats yet but if he had a high obp, he would've still been a good player.
@@blakeoboyle3451 yeah it's the difference between really good and all-time great. They took Bonds from great to greatest
Manny hit 45 in 1998 with 145 RBIS ....
Manny Ramirez had a .333 batting average with 174 hits, 44 home runs, 165 RBIs and 131 runs scored in 147 games in 1999. He won his second Silver Slugger .
jeter was a winner and never involved in any scandals unlike manny who got caught up in the roids and tarnished his own legacy
Manny has always been relatively honest with the exception of Roids…nevertheless his take on Jeter is “spot on”.
Below average defensively would of hurt him a lot more on a weaker team 👍
Great now Even when the players are retired the Red Sox and Yankees will have a rivalry involving the retired players
Wait Derek Jeter won several gold gloves…
Yea after arod moved to 3B 🤦🏽♂️
5 time champion
ROY
14 time all star
310 career batting average
3,465 hits for 6th all time
yeah very “overrated” LOL smh Manny is still upset the Yankees didn’t pick him up in 2003 when the Red Sox put him on waivers.
Did you not watch the video?
@@homiechonie2548 my comment is based of the comments calling Jeter overrated.
@@mauricecorchado4300 Put Mariano Rivera on the '90s Braves and they also have a dynasty. Jeter wasn't the main reason why the Yankees won those titles.
@@87Khein so Mariano alone was responsible for all those championships? In order to close those games he needed the lead. How many clutch plays and hits in the playoffs Jeter was responsible for?
@@87Khein no one is saying he’s the main reason they won all those championships but let’s not make him seem like he didn’t help at all
I am an Athletics fan. Look at how many great players came out of that small market, and really shined when they went elsewhere. Say what you want about Oakland, but it is the best "Finishing School For Future All-Stars" out there.
I hear what Manny is saying but then think Ichiro. 80% of his time in the mlb was with the M's but is still seen as one of if not the best hitter in history and one of the all time greats players in the sport.
Ichiro still gets no respect
Umm , Jeter won 5 gold gloves , 14 allstar appearances (including mvp in 2000), he's in the exclusive 3000 hit club ( 3,465 a Yankee record) and was captain (clutch) of the most storied franchise in sports history, 5 time world champion and a first ballot HOFer .. the only thing overrated about this is your opinion of this baseball legend .. his 3000th hit was a homer , that's story around the campfire kind of legend.
Ya but his defence is very overrated he was terrible defensively with a -162 DRS but with the bat he is a monster
@@felipearredondo4560
Overrated defense? How many shortstops played the position for 20yrs with 5 gold gloves .. during a 20yr stint at any position your numbers are bound to drop. And he played during the era of shortstops ..
Ripken Jr., Garciaparra, Larkin Rodriguez , Smith , Guillen..
stop the nonsense, don't hate, congratulate
@@maxstone6953 it's a statistical fact that his defence was overrated and as I said before he was a monster when he stepped up to the plate and always came in clutch
I’ll say this, all the Jeter talk is very unfair to Jeter, his offensive ability was great. To hit .310 for an entire 20 year career is phenomenal. The issue with the defense thing is that analytics will have you thinking Jeter was a drunken idiot on the field dropping balls and throwing balls away all the time, but in reality the reason his DRS is so low is because of his range, but even then it didn’t matter cause Jeter was both a clutch hitter AND clutch defender. Also, I feel like if Jeter played his whole career with the Royals he would be considered underrated, there’s definitely a Yankee hate thing when it comes to people saying Jeter wasn’t that good, if prime Jeter signed with their favorite team they would’ve went crazy.
100% agree.
If Derek Jeter, had played his entire career in Kansas City, he probably would’ve broken Pete Rose’s all time hit record. Less pressure better results!!!
He’d be Barry Larkin hof status. Better hitter, worse defender with one ring.
@@drizzle452 , one ring in Kansas City, would probably be the equivalent of three rings in New York!!!
fun fact: aaron judge was originally drafted for the a’s but decided to play college baseball instead
Wait, what has Trout done for LA? And his the best player of this generation. It not basketball where one player or two can make a difference, Jeter was a key player for some great teams, everyone wants to take shots at Jeter when all he did was win, and did it with class, can’t say that for others .
But Trout and Jeter are two different kind of players. Trout is a bigger producer by himself that is not the Jeter's case.
Jeter had a stacked team
Trout does not
@@tolabassist3302 so that’s Jeter fault?
@@romanc.5074 Jeter’s clutch production makes him just as big.
@@BeeB-l7x so just ignore the main comment?
Idk, Trout is one the faces of baseball and has only played in like 3 playoff games.
Yeah but at this pace he will be remember more for not playing in enough relevant games than his own stats…and that straight up sucks but it is what it is.
Lol manny and Jeter aren’t even in the same league on or off the field.
Baseball needs people like Derek Jeter. Just like football needs Tom Brady. To trash them is just pure trash
Mannys defense at 1:30 is hilarious
Agree 100% with Manny. I'd like to say east coast bias too but I doubt it'd be a big deal if they played on the Pirates or Marlins. I think it's just playing on those two specific teams. Even playing on the Mets would be a step down even though they're in the same city.
Manny has a point IMO. A player’s stature in baseball does have something to do with where they play. Jeter would have been good anywhere, but with the Yankees he was great. With another team and not so many opportunities to show off his skills in the postseason when everyone is watching? I think not so much.
Would Jeter have really been good anywhere else though? Theres plenty of teams that would not have overlooked his poor fielding at short like the Yankees seemed to do.
he has a point. put Jeter, Ramirez in a small market team like Colorado or Kansas City, they would be known as average at best. but since they were in one of the 3 big market teams (NYY, LAD, BOS) they will be known for an extremely long time
Manny Ramirez make some good points for his argument in this is coming from a Yankees Fan. I get it was he was saying I could ride with that but they have been plenty superstar guys in small market teams Jay Buhler, Ken Griffey Jr, Alex Rodriguez, Edgar Martinez, Pedro Martinez Albert Bell, David Justice, Greg Maddox John Smoltz, Tom Glavin
Baseball will always need the Yankees and Red Sox, especially when both teams are good. Nothing beats the rivalry
I’m not a Yankees fan. I will say this, It’s extremely difficult to take at face value anything that comes out of Manny. A former player that tested I believe 3 times for performance enhancing drugs. 🤔 Here’s an idea, maybe he should come up with an analysis on how different his stats would’ve been had he not ever used steroids.
As a lifetime Yankees fan, I never looked at Derek Jeter as overrated. Was he a great player? I say sure he was when you add up his career numbers. But I'm also a realist. Personally, I felt that Derek Jeter wasn't better than Boston's Nomar Garciaparra from the time both players were on their respective teams up until Nomar got traded to the Chicago Cubs late in the 2004 season. I'll be honest, I was nervous whenever Nomar went up to bat against Yankees pitchers because during his best days, Nomar was considered one of the toughest outs in baseball whenever games were on the line. I respect what Manny Ramirez said. But overall as a Yankees fan, I felt DJ was one of the best leaders in the game. And that's what makes Jeter a special player against a Garciaparra or similar player.
And going further back about if Derek played for the KC Royals, he would be another guy. Playing for a team like the Royals and getting recognized for greatness on that type of team gives one all-time great status if successful. That's why as a lifetime Yankees fan, I will always have a special place in my heart for George Brett. One of the greatest players ever I had the honor of watching. That guy used to make me extremely nervous whenever he was at the plate. I enjoyed everything about him during the Yankees vs Royals rivalries back in the day. The dust ups and he controversial moments combined. I was ecstatic for him when the Royals finally won the World Series back in 1985. He deserved that. A similar player to George Brett I would say although in a larger market would be Mike Schmidt. That man was great too playing for only one team throughout his illustrious career.
As a Yankees fan, I agree with Manny Ramirez. That's why although I don't begrudge the decision that Robinson Cano made signing with Seattle, his legacy could've been a WHOLE lot different if he would've remained in The Bronx. And yeah, I know he eventually came back with The Mets, but by that time it was too late. And no disrespect to that team in Queens, but it's just a night and day difference between the Yankees and Mets. Just my opinion, of course.
Theres other factors here nobody is paying attention to. Im a lifelong yankee fan. Jeter was more than just a great hitter. Better than his skill at hitting and baseball in general is his character. That 90s yankee team was carefully constructed kinda similar to the way herb brooks built the 1980 usa olympic team. Im pretty sure the true architect of the core of that yankee dynasty was gene Michaels, who apparently was a intuitive baseball genius. Buck showalter said gene Michaels saw things with his heart, mind, intuition most people couldn’t see. Jeter was picked because of his character. What people don’t factor in was his incredible ability to live on central park west and date probably the 10 hottest women in existence and still keep up that level of play. Keep that passion for the game. And trust me I’m a New Yorker, if he had been on any other team he would have been concentrating on baseball a lot more. His stats would have been significantly better. I could even see with my naked eye he was constantly distracted. What nobody seems to pay attention to is character of players which is so important. Most of the players on that yankee team had a certain character they were as good people as they were players and in the biggest moments they find a way to beat you cause passion is most important. They weren’t the most skilled players but the right players. The flip play in 2001 against Oakland defines Jeter, that clutch player, who rises above in the biggest moments finds a way to beat you. I watched so many of his games i don’t see how his defense statistically was that bad. He always made the play, i think maybe his range of motion wasn’t that great, maybe thats what thats referring too. Skilled players are a dime a dozen, but truly great winners are legendary. Jeters numbers alone lacking great power are very impressive. Very impressive.
I feel like we are missing the intangibles. He was a leader. And a good one at that. He made other player better.
You believe that shit?
Of course it's true and Manny is (shockingly) 100% right on this issue. Think about all the great players who have played on small market teams and spent their best years there never winning, it's a cruel joke. Some of them then get a big free agency deal late in their career and fade away lamenting all the "what if" moments. That is a very VERY long list. Jeter was great because he was a) a fantastic player but b) was on the Yankees and c) surrounded by other great players who got them WS titles. Sure, he thrived in a high pressure environment but let us not forget Jeter didn't do it alone. He never carried the NYY alone - hardly. Big markets add pressure sure but they also afford you the luxury of being surrounded by others to share in the pressure.
Oh course Manny is 1000% right. Jeter and those Yankees teams were the perfect fit.
NYer here, although a Mets fan, not a Yankees one. Thought Jeter was a very good ballplayer, but not exceptional. He did play many years and secured 3,000 hits, which supported his votes for the HOF. To give a perspective, Mariana Rivera was one of the most exceptional ballplayers had the good fortune to watch in my lifetime.
Nyer and take fan here and I do agree. Mariano was the difference for those teams
@@zeeski7454 Greatest reliever to date. Yankees were blessed to have him, and major force on many of their WS championships.
Take Scott Rolen and put him on the Yanks for 15 seasons and he gets the Thurman Munson treatment because of the way he played defense at 3rd....not many fans know outside of Phi St Louis and Cin he is arguably the best defensive 3rd baseman of his generation and arguably might be in the hall already if he played on a big market team his whole career
Isn’t manny Ramirez also the guy that peed in the green monster. Pretty credible source to come to conclusions.
No he went into the employee toilet in the green monster during a game
@@mikelugo848 huh?
Would that mean Eric Hosmer isn’t ready for the “big moment” in San Diego?
Look at George Brett, he is one of the best baseball players to ever lace it up HOF five tool player.. but if not for games like The Show young kids who are casual fans wouldnt know who his he is because of playing in KC 3,154 career Hits 317 HR 201 steals .305 career BA He led the league in doubles or triples 5 times in his career hits 3 times and once batted .390 for a season If he had played in NY or Boston everyone would know who he is
Some of those Indians teams were great when Manny was on them
Javy Lopez picked him off in Game 2.
@@87Khein who's that Manny?
Manny Ramirez was picked off of first base in the eighth inning of Game 2 in the 1995 World Series. That was Atlanta’s only title until last year.
Javy Lopez was a beast too at one point in his career
Because being a Yankee actually means something in the MLB. This is why the Yankees are the top sports franchise in sports history
If jeter were drafted by the royals, george steinbrenner wouldve paid anything to get jeter in pinstripes. The guy was destined to be a yankee one way or another. And he came through at the biggest stage. So all of this is a moot point.
Manny being Manny.
Imagine Mike Trout as a Yankee or apart of the Red Sox then
Right?? It would be TOTALLY different
Mike Trout, with the Yankees or Red Sox, back then would’ve been a bat boy, at best!!! He was probably 12 or 13 years old at the time!!!😂😂😂
@@hugosegura6287 I’m not talking about back then
his comments were strictly factual
As a yankee fan…. He’s right look at cal Ripken jeter is more revered but I think playing 3000 games is insane.
Mike trout needs to watch this video
Jeter is Craig Biggio, the difference is Biggio played in Houston. Is he a Hall of Famer? Sure. 99% of the vote Hall of Famer? No.
What’s people’s beef with Derek Jeter? He literally did nothing to them
Jeter started gaining a lot of detractors with his horrible run as a GM for the Marlins.
Jeter wasn’t overrated. People just hate that he was a Yankee. Just be honest people…
Dude ESPN rated Jeter over Pujols on their all time list of course he is overrated.
@@petersonofleo11 That’s ESPN though. Their word is worth puke in the dust.
I’m a big Jeter critic. A singles hitter who was analytically the worst defensive player since defensive runs saved were recorded in the early 2000’s.. legend??? It’s baffling to me. He received legendary status because yes. He played in NY and was given the opportunity to hit those singles in big moments, and he did. So give him that, but if he were on any other team-he’s not known as a legend. He’s literally an average player - because his defense was just that much of a liability. Range of a 🐢
Compare the amount of rings they have that should tell you the difference. Derek Jeter has 5
Which has absolutely nothing to do with Manny's point.
I'm a Royals fan but manny is 100 % spitting facts.
This point definitely has some merit. In Jeter's case, not so much. He wasn't overrated. Look at similar players on his baseball reference page. 9/10 HOFers, no big market guys. Jeter would be a HOF career regardless of team.
He is right…but for me his comments are more about how the fans and the media care more about large market players than any others than the players themselves…cause yeah, Jeter was a stud, but not based on todays stats standards. Yet, the way he played AND behaved on and off the field made him great.
Manny is on the ball!
Watching some manny “highlights” are comedy gold
Anyone got the clip at 1:32? I wanna see the whole play
I think Manny is Spot On!
If Jeter played for the royals ppl would actually pay attention to his defensive stats
I hate the Yankees. I love Jeter. He is known for his greatness, not for being the best. I agree with Manny 100%. When you are clutch in October AND November, that is greatness. Never even a whiff of roid allegations. Humbled himself to the game of baseball. And the sheer volume and quality of the chicks he scored with is just off the charts, no GPS.
Can people give the captain some credit and stop hating no he’s not the best but was dam good
Barry bonds should be in the hof
I love Jeter and I kind of agree. We also have to factor in the influence of the New York Press. However, to Jeters Credit, he had the look and dignity to become the face of the Yankees. I dont think he was a better player than Griffey, Arod or Bonds, but he fit the mold of the organization better...
Manny is probably the most dominant pure offensive machine I ever seen, but Jeter was no joke, Jeter always came through in the clutch and I mean "always". The Yankees dynasty would have never been without him.
Honestly. That makes perfect sense. Im from Minnesota. Look at Joe Mauer. Sure, the twilight of his career wasn't great, but if he had his prime in a bigger market than the twins, dude would be bigger than Yogi
jose Ramirez in the Indians is one of the leagues current best hitters and gets little to no shine
The greatest leaders aren't always the greatest players.
Theoretically, on a bad team, anyone can be pitched around, thus affecting their stats. However, if we were to take Jeter with his exact regular season stats and put him on the Twins, he's still one of 33 players in the history of baseball with 3000+ hits.
But does he have 3000 hits with a subpar team with no other player better than him? The yankees had full all-star lineups, man. To think he would have been the same in a different lineup is naive.
@@StillProtesting that was the point I made in the first half of the statement. He obviously would not have same stats surrounded by average (or worse) players. The point Manny was trying to make was that he's so beloved and possibly overrated because he did all of that in the Yankees.
@@StillProtesting The point was in referencing the team he played for. So the guy was using the team as the variable and the stats as the constant.
People tend to forget Jeter is liked because of how he carried himself on and off the field. Not his fault he was drafted by the Yankees and hell he was almost traded. People hate because he was successful on the biggest stage in baseball.
Judge was originally drafted by the A's
but he only played for the yankees in the major leagues. don't matter what team drafted you, matters which team you played for in the majors.
You put Judge in Oakland and he's easily hitting 10 fewer homers a year
safe to say Jeter was the exact right guy at the exact right time
Absolutely correct my favorite example of this is Tony Gwynn Mr. Padre himself arguably the best contact hitter in the last 100 years but he played for the Padres his whole career and how many times outside of all time lists or Padres stuff do you ever hear his name? Never outside of Padres games the last time I saw his name mentioned in the baseball world was an article about the 94 strike where they mentioned he was almost hitting 400 and no offense to either but I really think Tony Gwynn was way better than Ramirez or Jeter I mean the guy averaged 21 strikeouts a season in 22 years he had on ed 3 strikout game he would tell players on first to steal because he was doing a hit and run and they trusted him yet when ESPN did their top 100 players he was 44. If he was a yankee he would have been top 25 easily
your reaching with this one bruhh
Padre fan here. Just a friendly reminder that Gwynn > Jeter
This is good and all, but Boston is a big baseball market. It’s comparing apples to apples. Boston isn’t Pittsburgh, KC or San Diego
People need to look at the reality of it, all this “if Jeter would’ve played with the Royals” talk is irrelevant, because the REALITY is that he excelled both in the regular season and the postseason with the biggest market team in North American sports with both clutch hitting and clutch defense. There should be no if ands or buts about it, it already happened the way it happened.
Yep!
You should have put Manny’s audio. Manny gave nods to Yankee and Red Sox fans for PUSHING their players. It wasn’t about popularity more about the pressure and being able to live up to it and wanting to live up to it, compared to fanbases that may not care as much. Yankee fans and Red Sox fans boo their players because we know they are and can do better. You can be in a small market and be popular.
Giambi was safe at home
Jeter was definitely a very solid hitter but NY for sure inflated his perceived worth. Dude had 216 hits @ age 38. Say what you want about his defense, he was a solid hitter for a long time
So, if Jeter played his entire Carrer in Kansas he wouldn't have more than 3000 hits?
This is the issue with modern day baseball, a lot of kids all over the world look up to Jeter, all this overrated talk has corrupted their young minds and now he doesn’t get the respect that he deserves. People need to stop with all this negativity because it’s so toxic among baseball fans. Also, I find it very interesting how people started calling him overrated AFTER he retired, cause when he was playing they knew how good he truly was.
He started to be called overrated near the end of his career because of the ridiculous amount of gold gloves he won for his horrible defense.
His defense would've kept him off the line up of any other team.
His defense for his entire career is overrated by those who reported on him when he played and those awards that he won.
Lol what are you talking about? There were tons of Jeter haters.
Ken Griffey Jr, greatest of all time. Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Stan the man Musial, Willie Mays,Hank Aaron... Babe Ruth, 714 HR's with less plate appearances than the other so-called HR leaders. Derek was GREAT!
Higher WAR and top 6 in all time hits 😂
You wouldn’t be shit without Roids. Have fun never entering the Hall 😂
Jeter must be laughing his ass off 😂😂
What about the superstars that never won the World Series