See the School Administration scurrying away. They had an ACTIVE ROLE in this tragedy. Funny she isn't addressing that. And I guess school bulling, guns allowed in the school, no metal detectors, Social media awareness of impending violence and now she is the Prosecution, Judge & jury. Wow. Left a lot out!
It is too bad that the only time Gun violence is really addressed is after the death of our children. Adults please pay attention to your children. Adults realize if you teach hate that is what you get, only Love can conquer hate!
@@ronking2177 Teaching anything is sum part . The other part is the individual desire and will to learn it ,assimilate it , or imitate it. Case in point no school system ever teaches profanity as dignified common speech, and yet the masses somehow cleaves to possessing potty mouths. Hence whether the president, vp, congress, msm, social media and so on, still the individual of a reprobate mind or not. Now ask if I think parents should be held liable for not keeping children in a child's place until their 18th birthday. Pretty sure that would fix plenty. The cost of freedom and liberty comes with much responsibility, and is quite high.
@@ronking2177 You’re the one pro-gun with no restrictions, anti-healthcare for all, anti-tax going towards education, anti-social work funding, anti-humanitarian, anti-intelligence etc...Do you not know what you vote for? How about stop being a coward and start taking responsibilities for your party!
I have noticed that the press in Oakland County seem to be very polite. At yesterday's briefings, and this one, they are respectful, thank the speaker, and for the most part understand when they cannot comment on specific information. This appears to be more professional than what I've seen on similar cases, and more recent incidents.
Agree, accept the one reporter in this brief that got snippy about everyone being owed more information. No; the victims & their loved ones are owed a successful prosecution first & foremost.
i don't think you understand how high profile suspects get treated in prison they're never around any inmamtes due to them being high risk and not to mention the inamates would only do harm to them just for notoriety they could care less
@@Kami3Kaze not true at all... Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison also, a "small scale" shooting like this, he won't be treated any different than any other murderer
Watch the interview, the student stayed home because he just wanted to, the reporter fed that into his mouth basically, I live in Oxford, and I work and am currenty right now working with a student who was in yesterday’s horrific situation. He says that student who gave that interview shows up maybe 1-2 days a week, with that said my student coworker also said he knew and heard nothing of any warnings
@@Dr_Dazed He stayed home because of being uncomfortable based on the rumors.. Watch the interview again.. And yet he is a 12th grader approaching graduation. 1-2 days a week, huh? Yeah right. The rumor mill was in full effect on the possible threat, many students knew of the rumor and many preceeded with caution. Many students reported the threat to school faculty about this issue and were ignored. The attempt to discredit the young man being interviewed says a lot. HMM..I wonder why that could be?
@@levette284 nowhere did he state that in his interview until the reporters and his mother put those words out into his mouth, that’s all I am stating and will stand by that…
I’m glad the prosecutor is going to consider charging the parents. This will be a first. And, I think if the parents are charged and convicted, that will be a milestone and help to reduce gun violence in schools.
Thank you prosecutor, and honoring the father’s wishes… and making this clear, precise and humanly speech to inform the press. Justice will be served to those who think they have the right to take life!! Prayers to the families and friends involved…. 💔
@DaKrawnik420 no…? It’s not. But as the prosecutor mentioned, there is only so much that can be done and we are as equipped as can be when this happened. She said it was premeditated but unfortunately a few died before the suspect was in caught.
Interesting how we can just put certain legal precedents aside when we feel too much. Guess what? He's not an adult. Last time I checked, 15 is less than 18. I'd like to see all violent criminals get the death penalty to scare people away from crime. But that doesn't mean we just do it. If we could just go straight from proof to the gallows, everything would be efficient and sane. But we're not allowed to. Who disallows us? Ourselves. We deserve what we get, honestly.
This latest shooting is just another example of the moral breakdown of society. If we want society to be healthy, morals and ethics need not only to be taught but the more people actually live by morals and ethics in their personal lives the more our culture can change for the better.
How about responsible adults paying attention to the lives of their children. How many "other parents" ignored their children's reports of social media.
How many hours did the school Administration have to step in!! Or how many days/weeks/months. The kids knew they weren't safe. Some stayed home because of social media.
This prosecutor is amazing you can see the passion she is a mother and you can she that she is trying her hardest to be as professional as possible but she is very emotional and I love that she is. I am so happy that she is hired to be the prosecutor for this case. Thank God this is going to be a case that will matter. This prosecutor will make sure that the parents will be held accountable as well.
Praying for everyone involved. I'm from South Africa and everytime I hear of another school shooting in America it breaks my heart...you people need help
@@maxfightmaster1338 there are actual laws where the parents are charged but I’d be more concerned as a parent that my child was using a weapon in such a senseless way more than I’d be concerned with facing charges
This Country failed the families and and the suspect...Mental illness is huge in teenagers, bullying, stress, pressures and yet our kids aren't reaching out to other kids to help them through the day. Does this go through other kids heads ? Teach your kid to be kind to others and gun control!
I went to school - late 60's through the 70's... Our schools had wood and metal shop classes where the kids could (and many did) make guns. Kids brought guns to school during hunting season. No school shootings. But then again - things were very different back then.
these reporters are POS! how many times does she have to tell them she's protecting the defendant's right to fair trial in order to protect the integrity of the trial so that the victim's and their families can get justice. that one reporter that dared ask her "what gives you the right to decide what you can tell us?" just smh - kudos to her for standing her ground and not be je'baited into replying and compromising the justice that needs to be done in this case.
She said on here many times social media was to blame. We have FB allowing kids to post violent stuff. FB has these violent crimes where kids are fighting where? In school. I saw a parent in my state begging the school district to please help her. She was in the Columbus Ohio school district. Asking all the parents there. Shut down by the officials. The parents who want to keep their kids safe went through all these branches to keep them safe. What happens they are told horrible things. listed as a domestic terrorist. Here in this case the school did know there were issues with the kid. Yet he wasn't taken out of school. I have to ask who's dropping the ball here. There is signs. You do know
I hope that they hold FB as well accountable for these kids lives. I sure would if I was a parent. Stop allowing them a get out of jail free card. She said there was damaging stuff on FB.
@@heatherdawnd.d.delligatti9580 not sure why you posted this under my comment. lol - has nothing to do with anything u said. i was talking about the reporters in the press conference that were assholes.
I hope the parents are charged to the fullest extent of the law. They need to be held to a greater accountability than their 15 year old son, in my opinion. We need to send a direct message to gun owners, if you want to own guns you will take full responsibility for those guns. If your guns are lost, stolen, misused or gets into the wrong hand, you will be at fault.
So by that same logic if someone steals your car and kills someone with it, its your fault? Should have kept your vehicle under better security you know..
I agree 100%. I am all for gun ownership. I am all for allowing your children to "have" their own gun. That sounds odd, but my niece n nephews each have their own. They have learned gun safety, go hunting with my brother in law, take them and safely practice. But any time they are not doing that those guns are locked up solid. 2 different areas, guns and ammo. Key and combo locks on both. Responsible gun ownership is critical. If someone steals your car out of your driveway, breaking in and not having keys, and somehow kills someone in the process, you did the best you could to keep your vehicle safe, locked and inaccessible. Not even a close comparison.
@@jenbingham0914 thats not an apples to oranges comparison.. substitute car for gun and ask yourself if that makes sense, its the principle behind the argument....
Complete parent failure. They buy a pistol and give full access to a minor. Why don't you buy him some alcohol also, oh that's rite it's against the law . My condolences and prayers go out to all that went through this needless attack .
Damn that DA is going after him forreal I love it she ain't playing around that boy just signed his own death warrant life in prison with no possiblity of parole
You do realize when you say God by itself you are signifying God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit SINGLY ,less when we say," God our Father , please send the Holy Spirit Lord to comfort these families , we ask this in your only Son, in Jesus name. Or we ask this in the name of Christ Jesus our Lord .Amen.
@@luiswhatshisname7667 What else are Democrats or Republicans suppose to offer without commingling Church and State, intellectually hugging a tree, or hampering freedom and liberty? And no I have never voted Republican in my 45 + years voting history.
@@VirgoCatleesi Feds been picking up violent cases and gun cases in detroit. Idk about oakland county but legally they can. They do it quick to young black guy lol
We need to put many, many more counselors in preschool through high school. We have to find children, many who are abused and neglected, before they fall through the cracks and seek revenge against society. It would be money well spent.
I’d like to know, why was the superintendent so smug when asked about, why didn’t the school have metal detectors? And why there would be no discussion on the matter.
The problem is, you can't stop anyone from doing anything they want to do. You can lock doors, have metal detectors, it doesn't matter. That's what is so scary. This is about mental health issue, culture problems, access to firearms.
Because metal detectors make you're school look like unsafe prisons and that is the perfect learning environment why not throw in some armed cops patrolling the halls too for the maximum i am not safe here experience
So good to see a prosecutor who has the right priorities. The victims and their families are what matter here. Too bad the media and most of the comments here don't have the same perspective...
Please she has probably dropped charges and plea dealt countless cases. DA's nationwide is the problem as the buck starts and stop with the prosecution. She splattering on about gun laws to which the sheriff said in a press conference after this the prosecution lets people go with three or four charges of felony gun charges. Besides that guns are objective tools with no dog in the fight, guns aren't the problem it's the mental stability of the person using said tool. We shun people in the blink of a eye in this cancel culture, people are losing their humanity. Ethics and morals went out the back door about a decade ago. Divide we fall in chaos.
I heard that guy who did this shooting has friends who are planning to go to other schools and I live not that far from the school so im staying home tomorrow and im honestly scared
I’m willing to bet all of my money that it’s a cruel rumor made by some edgy kid online. If you don’t feel safe though, you should stay home. I’m sorry that you have to deal with this. That’s scary.
I dont understand how changing gun laws would have affected this he was not even supposed to have the gun someone bought it "his dad" so what laws can you change to stop grown adults from buying a gun legally ? yall as government officials have to do better how do yall have metal detectors in your homes but wont make them mandatory in all schools when yall see what the world is coming to
She meant a law requiring them to be locked and secured in a home. That does not exist in Michigan. I am for gun rights and rights come with responsibility. Weapons should not be accessible to minors without supervision. The parents ignored every red flag. If you make parents responsible for ignoring behavioral issues - things will change.
Not just gun owners must be held accountable. ALL persons should be held accountable for their actions. This has been a problem for a long time. NO ACCOUNTABILITY is a huge problem in our justice system.
This is the worst news any parent can get. I fear day in and day out for my child and I pray I never have to go through this. Payers going out to the families who have lost their children, and I hope justice is served.
Do these people teach their children about God and the Bible? We do not need new laws. My dad and everyone in the family owned guns, but we were not to even touch the guns. We were taught right from wrong.
I understand everyone focusing on the victims. But did anyone else notice that the DA is calling for more gun control? It's not the gun, it's the hand holding the gun. This boils down to absentee parenting and the shooter not having parental interaction.
If the shooter was bullied and turned to this violence to remove them, then the school bullies should face charges also. Some schools won't do a damn thing to the school bullies, and make it worse for their victims. Used to be one would settle their differences with a fist fight. Not any more. Could be the videos that undeveloped minds tune into.
If Rittenhouse didn't have a gun he wouldn't have been a target and two people wouldn't be dead! Yet we have people promoting an armed under age teenager as a hero! This is what is wrong in this country. PREVENTION PLEASE 🙏
There's already laws on the books for the gun, they don't have to conjure anything further, just enforce the laws on the books. The father should be charged as well. Guns in the home of todays teen is a disaster waiting to happen. Most of todays teens are on the verge of mental illness and suicidal. The sheriff said this is normal, well to our present culture yes. There was a time when the majority of teens weren't suicidal, there was a time when they brought guns to school and no one was killed. The 21st century schizoid man has bred his demise.
Respect to Karen McDonald. I didn’t vote for her but I will be when she’s up for re-election. She’s done an amazing job so far as the Oakland county prosecutor and she’s the perfect prosecutor to represent the victims in this horrific case
This situation is sad all around… I know the shooter did something unimaginably horrible, but no kid should ever fantasize about killing their peers… it’s sad to know that his parents and we as a society failed him. He deserves to go to jail, but he didn’t deserve to arrive at the point he did that caused this to happen. Rest In Peace to the children that lost their lives.. when will it ever be the end?
Access to the gun with the parents needs to be addressed and mental health needs to be addressed because without access this wouldn’t have been possible in this way but if someone really wants to hurt people they will find a way to hurt people
I think it's less about the gun and more about who was actually doing the parenting. This kid was setting off molitov cocktails in his backyard and no one was there to tell him it was wrong or that he shouldn't be doing that? Where were his parents for that? Have they ever sat him down to ask how his day went or were involved at all? I tend to doubt it.
Dear prosecutor you cannot blame the guns in the country that kid wanted to get a gun and do what he was going to do he would have went and got one anywhere he only lives 38 minutes from Detroit and that's a city bus ride down the road from you thank God this didn't happen on 8 mile or nobody would be hearing about it
Why wasn't the gun in a safe? On social media it was clear that this father was worried about his son's Behavior. I'm not saying to try a juvenile as a adult but perhaps we need to start charging parents So sad and disturbing. Don't get me wrong, I'm a gun owner, I'm trained and respectful, I have a safe, and no one in the household knows the combination. Sadly, in these times I also think schools need metal detection. Also parents please pay attention to your kids social media even if they are 18 or 19
If public schools were shut down things like this would never happen. Theres literally no reason for schools anymore. Every thing can be done online from home.
I agree, we absolutely need to have conversations about responsible gun ownership, but we also need to have conversations about real, adequate mental healthcare, as well as bullying, and the roll schools play in mediating, and resolving those issues. There are too many cases of children being bullied into either taking their own life, or potentially doing things to harm others due to bullying. I’m not saying that everyone who is bullied is going to do this, but it is a massive problem, and it does not seem that schools are doing enough, or taking enough action in bullying situations.
Glad she intends to bust the ball of the shooter just wish she didn't blame guns for the crime instead of the shooter. Prayers to the families and the victims.
We live in TX and are responsible gun owners for many decades. Watching Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald press conference today about indicting the parents - we commend this lady for her sincerity & humanity in this very sad tragedy. Everything she said was on the mark. Bravo.
Don't just blame it on the kids blame it on adults also that is a total lack of Parental Guidance in the home and it was said that the gun was bought for him by his father a couple days beforehand
I wish someone had asked her exactly what new law would stop this exact situation. She wants to do the old "we need knew laws"....what she means is "we have to do something" and a prosecutor can only see one thing.....new laws. Obviously he didn't follow the laws in place and she is hinting that the parents didn't either so why does she think new laws will work???
It's not about making the world safer, it's about protecting the rich by changing the laws so that there is no freedom, to even think of retaliation against their oppression. Cops are just thugs for rich pieces of crap, they do not protect "people," they protect the rich, and the law is usually just an obstacle for them.
I wonder what lawyer is going to defend this killer. If you asked me they should just throw his azz in prison and throw away the key. Rip to the victim's.
Thank you Karen McDonald! I'm sorry you have to live through this, but you are doing the right thing for all of us Americans! Thank you for your service!
I think a case for criminal negligence could be made here, especially given that the suspect’s mom texted her son and told him “don’t do it” when she first learned of the shooting at Oxford High School. That, along with the specifics of the previously unknown “incidents” that led to the parents and suspect meeting with the school the morning of the attack, suggests that they not only had cause for concern, but that they were concerned about their son’s behavior.
We really need to know how many warnings there were prior to this, and why there are numerous rumors that multiple students stayed home because of the warnings, but the school stated that there was no danger. We can make all the laws in the universe but if were going to be willfully stupid it won't matter.
Irony only back in August she stated "In our justice system, the constitution protects us all." In a statement where she had a murders case vacated. I guess our constitutional rights don't really matter to her.
Sending love & support. Go hard on the charges. Count 1 Terrorism. Yes! Honor the victims 6:22 Dangggg. Yes District Attorney McDonald. 💯 8:51 Thank you. Only once. 10:09 Details on Terrorism Charge. Yes yes yes. This murderer & parents sound very horrible. How terrifying for the community. 12:59 Dunk on em. 14:47 Shortly will be announcing if there are other charges 16:48 She is a professional. They are trying to trip her up 17:04 "mountain of evidence in this case. And I can't comment any further" 17:10 Question: What message are you sending with these charges? She is a great advocate for these victims.
I do wonder what the less popular kids of this school would say about the "victims" of this shooting. I have to wonder if they would use words such as wonderful, and loving when describing them.
The parents of the bully kids should be held accountable aswell. Guns has nothing to do with it. The main source is bullying. Stop bullying=stop violence. Simple....
Did you not see what the damage of a car can do? Gun free won't stop crimes. Gun free will just stop people from protecting themselves. Shall not be infringed!!! Don't stand on the graves of children to take my constitutional rights.
My condolences to the family that were lost and all that were injured In the horrific scene at Oxford high school It is unimaginable how difficult the families are Enduring We you need to stand together as 1 regardless of race Individually quality We need to unite together And make the United States of better place We can better prevent and Deter The situation by Adam Metal detectors at schools prior to going inside!!!!!! Because in the Hispanic culture we will be praying for all the families and victims that were involved in this Oxford high school incident all of Mexico will be praying for them!!!!!💪💪💪💪🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
I want to give my condolences to all the families im so sorry your going through this. May God give you strength during this time. Sending prayers up 🙏
That was a wonderful statement. The refusal to speak his name but to give tribute to the victims was so professional and compassionate.
Agree- I really admire both the sheriff and this prosecutor, very professional but still very human.
She's a class act, no doubt but people are curious no less and will continue to pry for details about him irregardless
@@darkhorse7460 right but at least his name won't be in the headlines.
That is not a woman...understand.
See the School Administration scurrying away. They had an ACTIVE ROLE in this tragedy. Funny she isn't addressing that. And I guess school bulling, guns allowed in the school, no metal detectors, Social media awareness of impending violence and now she is the Prosecution, Judge & jury. Wow. Left a lot out!
It is too bad that the only time Gun violence is really addressed is after the death of our children. Adults please pay attention to your children. Adults realize if you teach hate that is what you get, only Love can conquer hate!
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Teaching hate? The parents? Have you watched your president, vp, congress, msm, social media and so on. It's not always taught at home.
Cannot really address gun violence without a laser focus on human behavior.
@@ronking2177 Teaching anything is sum part . The other part is the individual desire and will to learn it ,assimilate it , or imitate it. Case in point no school system ever teaches profanity as dignified common speech, and yet the masses somehow cleaves to possessing potty mouths. Hence whether the president, vp, congress, msm, social media and so on, still the individual of a reprobate mind or not.
Now ask if I think parents should be held liable for not keeping children in a child's place until their 18th birthday. Pretty sure that would fix plenty. The cost of freedom and liberty comes with much responsibility, and is quite high.
@@ronking2177 You’re the one pro-gun with no restrictions, anti-healthcare for all, anti-tax going towards education, anti-social work funding, anti-humanitarian, anti-intelligence etc...Do you not know what you vote for? How about stop being a coward and start taking responsibilities for your party!
I have noticed that the press in Oakland County seem to be very polite. At yesterday's briefings, and this one, they are respectful, thank the speaker, and for the most part understand when they cannot comment on specific information. This appears to be more professional than what I've seen on similar cases, and more recent incidents.
Agree, accept the one reporter in this brief that got snippy about everyone being owed more information. No; the victims & their loved ones are owed a successful prosecution first & foremost.
That was CNN. What can we expect from them?
If he thought he was being bullied in school wait until he gets to prison.
i don't think you understand how high profile suspects get treated in prison they're never around any inmamtes due to them being high risk and not to mention the inamates would only do harm to them just for notoriety they could care less
@@Kami3Kaze not true at all... Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison
also, a "small scale" shooting like this, he won't be treated any different than any other murderer
At least there's a few bullies that learned their lesson.
@@Kami3Kaze have you ever been to prison before ? oh okay and how do you misspell inmates twice 😑
@@Kami3Kaze definitely not true. You get notoriety for attacking high profile inmates in prison. It’s like a patch
I love how she said everything she was really prepared and very respectful.
Praying for victims and families from South Africa 🇿🇦
Wondering how many "warning signs" were known prior to the shooting...and, why they were ignored.
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There were several.
There were several.
So many as such that kids started to not come to school, hear say but if true is completely on the school district or police for not taking action
Like all these incidents, ITS NOT GONNA HAPOEN HERE, NO WAY
My deepest condolences to family and friends
Did the school know about him?... and why did a student know to stay home due to a threat of a shooting, but the school didnt know????
And why didn't the parents that allowed their kids to stay home because of the threat say something?
@@malikiv1 pretty sure the school knew but said there was no threat.
Watch the interview, the student stayed home because he just wanted to, the reporter fed that into his mouth basically, I live in Oxford, and I work and am currenty right now working with a student who was in yesterday’s horrific situation. He says that student who gave that interview shows up maybe 1-2 days a week, with that said my student coworker also said he knew and heard nothing of any warnings
@@Dr_Dazed He stayed home because of being uncomfortable based on the rumors.. Watch the interview again.. And yet he is a 12th grader approaching graduation. 1-2 days a week, huh? Yeah right. The rumor mill was in full effect on the possible threat, many students knew of the rumor and many preceeded with caution. Many students reported the threat to school faculty about this issue and were ignored. The attempt to discredit the young man being interviewed says a lot. HMM..I wonder why that could be?
@@levette284 nowhere did he state that in his interview until the reporters and his mother put those words out into his mouth, that’s all I am stating and will stand by that…
I’m glad the prosecutor is going to consider charging the parents. This will be a first. And, I think if the parents are charged and convicted, that will be a milestone and help to reduce gun violence in schools.
Thank you prosecutor, and honoring the father’s wishes… and making this clear, precise and humanly speech to inform the press. Justice will be served to those who think they have the right to take life!! Prayers to the families and friends involved…. 💔
@DaKrawnik420 no…? It’s not. But as the prosecutor mentioned, there is only so much that can be done and we are as equipped as can be when this happened. She said it was premeditated but unfortunately a few died before the suspect was in caught.
Amen.xo
He hopefully will be charged as an adult so he will not get out...ever!
He is.
Interesting how we can just put certain legal precedents aside when we feel too much. Guess what? He's not an adult. Last time I checked, 15 is less than 18. I'd like to see all violent criminals get the death penalty to scare people away from crime. But that doesn't mean we just do it. If we could just go straight from proof to the gallows, everything would be efficient and sane. But we're not allowed to. Who disallows us? Ourselves. We deserve what we get, honestly.
She says it in the video.
@@yawningpheonix there is precedent.
@@yawningpheonix was actually surprised he’s being tried as an adult. 17? I get it, but 15?
If only all prosecutors could carry themselves with such poise and character.
This latest shooting is just another example of the moral breakdown of society. If we want society to be healthy, morals and ethics need not only to be taught but the more people actually live by morals and ethics in their personal lives the more our culture can change for the better.
Pretty sure people already know murder is morally and ethically wrong.
Social media?
It may play a role, but other countries have access to social media, and don't have the rate of school shootings that the US does.
@@baberRuth social media is our downfall. Look up: Jaron Lainer. He's got some great insights.
Really? These shootings mainly happen here in the US
Absolutely heart breaking this should have never happened 💔
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Unfortunately we have stupid parents.
@@ajetmech2002 Carlin warned us. Didn't give a solution. Just the stupid part.
why not... humans are worthless meat creatures... the more dead, the better
@youtube commenter shut up
Being charged as an adult, sadly, as it should be.
How about charging the real adults who ignored the mountain of warnings. TWO HOURS BEFORE THE KILLING BEGAN
How about responsible adults paying attention to the lives of their children. How many "other parents" ignored their children's reports of social media.
Yes....everyone knows it was premeditated. Most of the student body new.
How many hours did the school Administration have to step in!! Or how many days/weeks/months. The kids knew they weren't safe. Some stayed home because of social media.
So as long as the Focus isn't on the school Administration. It's a concern.
His Parents should be appalled at whst their son did instead they are telling him not to talk to anyone
Also charge anyone who overlooked or did not act on any warning signs to thus event.
This prosecutor is amazing you can see the passion she is a mother and you can she that she is trying her hardest to be as professional as possible but she is very emotional and I love that she is. I am so happy that she is hired to be the prosecutor for this case. Thank God this is going to be a case that will matter. This prosecutor will make sure that the parents will be held accountable as well.
Agreed. You could see she was trying so hard not to let her emotions so.
Prayers for all families of victims. 🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾
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how does prayer help?
@@kzanbusiness It's a way of being considerate for the families.
your prayers are worthless, you fool
@@V3ND10L4 so basically doing nothing, right?
Prayers to the families who lost loved ones.
Praying for everyone involved. I'm from South Africa and everytime I hear of another school shooting in America it breaks my heart...you people need help
Parents need to be charged as well. They need to be held to account since their son used their weapon. Enough is enough!
Not how the law works champ
@@maxfightmaster1338 there are actual laws where the parents are charged but I’d be more concerned as a parent that my child was using a weapon in such a senseless way more than I’d be concerned with facing charges
@@maxfightmaster1338 actually there’s a law for that, if there’s a underage child in the house all weapons are supposed to be locked away
@@maxfightmaster1338 not true, the buyer of the gun (the dad in this case) have a legal obligation to keep their weapons secure.
I don’t understand how the school didn’t detect the weapon
No new laws needed. Enforce the current laws.
We need to arm teachers, this is all the democrats fault
@@karendouglas4228 :stop it Karen that’s stupid republican ignorance
@@karendouglas4228 that’s a ridiculous approach lol. you should understand there’s some unstable teachers out there too.
Just what we need, more guns near our kids! Smart one Karen!
@@BrianJohnson-du6pj Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Dummy.
Interesting how this is the shooters fault but in Wisconsin it was the car's fault
You people are brain dead. Jesus Christ.
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This Country failed the families and and the suspect...Mental illness is huge in teenagers, bullying, stress, pressures and yet our kids aren't reaching out to other kids to help them through the day. Does this go through other kids heads ? Teach your kid to be kind to others and gun control!
When I went to school back in the 60’s the worst thing happening in school would be a fist fight.
I went to school - late 60's through the 70's... Our schools had wood and metal shop classes where the kids could (and many did) make guns. Kids brought guns to school during hunting season. No school shootings. But then again - things were very different back then.
these reporters are POS! how many times does she have to tell them she's protecting the defendant's right to fair trial in order to protect the integrity of the trial so that the victim's and their families can get justice. that one reporter that dared ask her "what gives you the right to decide what you can tell us?" just smh - kudos to her for standing her ground and not be je'baited into replying and compromising the justice that needs to be done in this case.
She said on here many times social media was to blame. We have FB allowing kids to post violent stuff. FB has these violent crimes where kids are fighting where? In school. I saw a parent in my state begging the school district to please help her. She was in the Columbus Ohio school district. Asking all the parents there. Shut down by the officials. The parents who want to keep their kids safe went through all these branches to keep them safe. What happens they are told horrible things. listed as a domestic terrorist. Here in this case the school did know there were issues with the kid. Yet he wasn't taken out of school. I have to ask who's dropping the ball here. There is signs. You do know
I hope that they hold FB as well accountable for these kids lives. I sure would if I was a parent. Stop allowing them a get out of jail free card. She said there was damaging stuff on FB.
@@heatherdawnd.d.delligatti9580 not sure why you posted this under my comment. lol - has nothing to do with anything u said. i was talking about the reporters in the press conference that were assholes.
These poor family's God bless our first responders .
Prosecuting the father should be in the future.
He's not a young man, he lost the title of being called a man when he selfishly murdered four (4) innocent young men and women.
I hope the parents are charged to the fullest extent of the law. They need to be held to a greater accountability than their 15 year old son, in my opinion. We need to send a direct message to gun owners, if you want to own guns you will take full responsibility for those guns. If your guns are lost, stolen, misused or gets into the wrong hand, you will be at fault.
So by that same logic if someone steals your car and kills someone with it, its your fault? Should have kept your vehicle under better security you know..
@@richardhead6184 apples and oranges dude. Car crashes vs school shootings are not even close to equal.
I agree 100%. I am all for gun ownership. I am all for allowing your children to "have" their own gun. That sounds odd, but my niece n nephews each have their own. They have learned gun safety, go hunting with my brother in law, take them and safely practice. But any time they are not doing that those guns are locked up solid. 2 different areas, guns and ammo. Key and combo locks on both. Responsible gun ownership is critical. If someone steals your car out of your driveway, breaking in and not having keys, and somehow kills someone in the process, you did the best you could to keep your vehicle safe, locked and inaccessible. Not even a close comparison.
@@jenbingham0914 thats not an apples to oranges comparison.. substitute car for gun and ask yourself if that makes sense, its the principle behind the argument....
Complete parent failure. They buy a pistol and give full access to a minor. Why don't you buy him some alcohol also, oh that's rite it's against the law . My condolences and prayers go out to all that went through this needless attack .
Im sorry to say knew how to use it as well im sorry for this came rite to my phone and im in warren,mi
Charge the parents pls. The allowed there minor crazy weirdo kids to have access to that Gun
Just a 15 year old boy...so sad for everyone involved.
Damn that DA is going after him forreal I love it she ain't playing around that boy just signed his own death warrant life in prison with no possiblity of parole
God, Jesus, Holy Spirit comfort these families in this devastating tragedy Lord. :(
Just prayers is all Republicans offer in every mass shooting. Enough!
You do realize when you say God by itself you are signifying God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit SINGLY ,less when we say," God our Father , please send the Holy Spirit Lord to comfort these families , we ask this in your only Son, in Jesus name. Or we ask this in the name of Christ Jesus our Lord .Amen.
@@luiswhatshisname7667 What else are Democrats or Republicans suppose to offer without commingling Church and State, intellectually hugging a tree, or hampering freedom and liberty? And no I have never voted Republican in my 45 + years voting history.
They didn't kill him so we all know what race he is
Since the lives of several victims are over, justice demands the life of this perpetrator be over!
That won't happen in Michigan. It's not a capital punishment state.
@@VirgoCatleesi Feds been picking up violent cases and gun cases in detroit. Idk about oakland county but legally they can. They do it quick to young black guy lol
Amen! 💯%
We need to put many, many more counselors in preschool through high school. We have to find children, many who are abused and neglected, before they fall through the cracks and seek revenge against society. It would be money well spent.
Sadly I doubt school systems will want to pay the people needed for this
My condolences to the entire school and praying for you all🙏
I’d like to know, why was the superintendent so smug when asked about, why didn’t the school have metal detectors? And why there would be no discussion on the matter.
What would metal detectors do. Just shoot the metal detector guy then do your rampage. Should be no disscussion on the matter.
The problem is, you can't stop anyone from doing anything they want to do. You can lock doors, have metal detectors, it doesn't matter. That's what is so scary. This is about mental health issue, culture problems, access to firearms.
Because metal detectors make you're school look like unsafe prisons and that is the perfect learning environment why not throw in some armed cops patrolling the halls too for the maximum i am not safe here experience
That won't solve your gun problems.
Keep trying.
@@josephstalin6647 They would love that.
That's not much of a joke since they honestly believe in prison-like treatment for every problem.
So good to see a prosecutor who has the right priorities. The victims and their families are what matter here. Too bad the media and most of the comments here don't have the same perspective...
Please she has probably dropped charges and plea dealt countless cases. DA's nationwide is the problem as the buck starts and stop with the prosecution. She splattering on about gun laws to which the sheriff said in a press conference after this the prosecution lets people go with three or four charges of felony gun charges. Besides that guns are objective tools with no dog in the fight, guns aren't the problem it's the mental stability of the person using said tool.
We shun people in the blink of a eye in this cancel culture, people are losing their humanity. Ethics and morals went out the back door about a decade ago.
Divide we fall in chaos.
I heard that guy who did this shooting has friends who are planning to go to other schools and I live not that far from the school so im staying home tomorrow and im honestly scared
I’m willing to bet all of my money that it’s a cruel rumor made by some edgy kid online. If you don’t feel safe though, you should stay home. I’m sorry that you have to deal with this. That’s scary.
I'm a 51 year old European, and I totally understand you. One shooting seems to start a wave of other ones.
Things like this are preventable sure the community feels it but did nothing to stop it from happening before hand
I trust Karen will get the job done. She's focused.
No she won't because she's a Karen
Charge the father. Lord have mercy.
I dont understand how changing gun laws would have affected this he was not even supposed to have the gun someone bought it "his dad" so what laws can you change to stop grown adults from buying a gun legally ? yall as government officials have to do better how do yall have metal detectors in your homes but wont make them mandatory in all schools when yall see what the world is coming to
By her making that comment is actually enough to show bias and should have her removed from the case.
She meant a law requiring them to be locked and secured in a home. That does not exist in Michigan. I am for gun rights and rights come with responsibility. Weapons should not be accessible to minors without supervision. The parents ignored every red flag. If you make parents responsible for ignoring behavioral issues - things will change.
Not just gun owners must be held accountable. ALL persons should be held accountable for their actions. This has been a problem for a long time. NO ACCOUNTABILITY is a huge problem in our justice system.
This is the worst news any parent can get. I fear day in and day out for my child and I pray I never have to go through this. Payers going out to the families who have lost their children, and I hope justice is served.
Do these people teach their children about God and the Bible? We do not need new laws. My dad and everyone in the family owned guns, but we were not to even touch the guns. We were taught right from wrong.
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I understand everyone focusing on the victims. But did anyone else notice that the DA is calling for more gun control? It's not the gun, it's the hand holding the gun. This boils down to absentee parenting and the shooter not having parental interaction.
Why does the media ask the same stupid questions over and over again.... listen to what the lady says....
If the shooter was bullied and turned to this violence to remove them, then the school bullies should face charges also. Some schools won't do a damn thing to the school bullies, and make it worse for their victims. Used to be one would settle their differences with a fist fight. Not any more. Could be the videos that undeveloped minds tune into.
Bullying gets swept under the rug all the time. This is a prime example of the outcome.
Back when I was in high school (early 90s) the student athletes could get away with practically anything, including bullying. Hope that's changed.
There has been no record of bullying
Yea but they should hunt down the bullies not drag a bunch of other innocent people into it
He killed people. Nothing about a bully. He should pay no matter what!!
If Rittenhouse didn't have a gun he wouldn't have been a target and two people wouldn't be dead! Yet we have people promoting an armed under age teenager as a hero! This is what is wrong in this country. PREVENTION PLEASE 🙏
There's already laws on the books for the gun, they don't have to conjure anything further, just enforce the laws on the books. The father should be charged as well. Guns in the home of todays teen is a disaster waiting to happen. Most of todays teens are on the verge of mental illness and suicidal. The sheriff said this is normal, well to our present culture yes. There was a time when the majority of teens weren't suicidal, there was a time when they brought guns to school and no one was killed. The 21st century schizoid man has bred his demise.
I was thinking the same thing. Also, what law would have stopped this tragedy?
The recently departed and affected, need our heartfelt thoughts and prayers.
They carry positive power to console and heal. Of that, I am sure.
Respect to Karen McDonald. I didn’t vote for her but I will be when she’s up for re-election. She’s done an amazing job so far as the Oakland county prosecutor and she’s the perfect prosecutor to represent the victims in this horrific case
Charged also the father who bought the gun for him on Thanks Giving day
Actually, the father bought the gun as a Xmas present for the teenager.
Yea dad knows WHY he bought him that gun AND what he planned to do with it.
@mind games
Have you not seen the US?
It's all they love & believe in.
@@RSAgility shut up
@@RSAgilitylmao shad up woman
When the cops didn't kill the shooter I knew what race he was
This situation is sad all around… I know the shooter did something unimaginably horrible, but no kid should ever fantasize about killing their peers… it’s sad to know that his parents and we as a society failed him. He deserves to go to jail, but he didn’t deserve to arrive at the point he did that caused this to happen. Rest In Peace to the children that lost their lives.. when will it ever be the end?
When the system starts taking mental health serious..
Access to the gun with the parents needs to be addressed and mental health needs to be addressed because without access this wouldn’t have been possible in this way but if someone really wants to hurt people they will find a way to hurt people
I think it's less about the gun and more about who was actually doing the parenting. This kid was setting off molitov cocktails in his backyard and no one was there to tell him it was wrong or that he shouldn't be doing that? Where were his parents for that? Have they ever sat him down to ask how his day went or were involved at all? I tend to doubt it.
Dear prosecutor you cannot blame the guns in the country that kid wanted to get a gun and do what he was going to do he would have went and got one anywhere he only lives 38 minutes from Detroit and that's a city bus ride down the road from you thank God this didn't happen on 8 mile or nobody would be hearing about it
Why wasn't the gun in a safe? On social media it was clear that this father was worried about his son's Behavior. I'm not saying to try a juvenile as a adult but perhaps we need to start charging parents So sad and disturbing. Don't get me wrong, I'm a gun owner, I'm trained and respectful, I have a safe, and no one in the household knows the combination. Sadly, in these times I also think schools need metal detection. Also parents please pay attention to your kids social media even if they are 18 or 19
Would you be able to elaborate on this please? Thanks.
Please no more shootings.
Yeah them parents definitely going to jail when she says we need more strict gunlaws and the unreasonable owner should be held accountable
Why do we need knew laws. If what he did was not against the current laws on the books then why are you going to have a trial.
Thank you for not letting his name be used
California has you're back 100% and if you guys need anything we will be there!!!! Long Live Michigan!!!!!
If public schools were shut down things like this would never happen. Theres literally no reason for schools anymore. Every thing can be done online from home.
He ain't going to get no special treatment in prison I hope he gets what he
I agree, we absolutely need to have conversations about responsible gun ownership, but we also need to have conversations about real, adequate mental healthcare, as well as bullying, and the roll schools play in mediating, and resolving those issues. There are too many cases of children being bullied into either taking their own life, or potentially doing things to harm others due to bullying. I’m not saying that everyone who is bullied is going to do this, but it is a massive problem, and it does not seem that schools are doing enough, or taking enough action in bullying situations.
Glad she intends to bust the ball of the shooter just wish she didn't blame guns for the crime instead of the shooter. Prayers to the families and the victims.
These types of school shootings are exceptionally rare in the rest of the devolped world, where access to guns is more tightly restricted.
The parents need to be held accountable for letting him get his hands on their gun.
She specifically said responsible gun ownership. She did blame the owners not the gun.
We live in TX and are responsible gun owners for many decades.
Watching Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald press conference today about indicting the parents - we commend this lady for her sincerity & humanity in this very sad tragedy. Everything she said was on the mark. Bravo.
Don't just blame it on the kids blame it on adults also that is a total lack of Parental Guidance in the home and it was said that the gun was bought for him by his father a couple days beforehand
I wish someone had asked her exactly what new law would stop this exact situation. She wants to do the old "we need knew laws"....what she means is "we have to do something" and a prosecutor can only see one thing.....new laws. Obviously he didn't follow the laws in place and she is hinting that the parents didn't either so why does she think new laws will work???
It's not about making the world safer, it's about protecting the rich by changing the laws so that there is no freedom, to even think of retaliation against their oppression. Cops are just thugs for rich pieces of crap, they do not protect "people," they protect the rich, and the law is usually just an obstacle for them.
GET THE DAMN AMMO AND THE MAGS. You can have ALL THE GUNS YOU CAN STUFF INSIDE YOUR HOUSE…. But the ammo is stored at the well regulated local armory
The Gun Owner is equally responsible for what the gun was used for. If you do not secure your own weapon, you are responsible.
Is he already out on bail like they did with Timothy Simpkins?
Charge those parents! How do you leave your gun unsecured around a child in general let alone one with his social media
I wonder what lawyer is going to defend this killer. If you asked me they should just throw his azz in prison and throw away the key. Rip to the victim's.
What exactly were the disciplinary issues involving this student three hours before this shooting, and the day before.
Thank you Karen McDonald! I'm sorry you have to live through this, but you are doing the right thing for all of us Americans! Thank you for your service!
Also charge those that provided the gun and ammo to the kid!
I think a case for criminal negligence could be made here, especially given that the suspect’s mom texted her son and told him “don’t do it” when she first learned of the shooting at Oxford High School. That, along with the specifics of the previously unknown “incidents” that led to the parents and suspect meeting with the school the morning of the attack, suggests that they not only had cause for concern, but that they were concerned about their son’s behavior.
Gun laws have absolutely NOTHING to do with this. Two words MOM AND DAD
What gun laws? Gun freaks have fought to not have any
@@dannyd1572 Cry more
@@dannyd1572 Gun freaks? You mean law abiding enthusiasts that treat guns with respect and provide meat for their families? You are the freak.
@@lennyj2080 Bit exaggerated, cool down
@@lennyj2080 Grocery stores provide meat for families.
This prosecutor is outstanding. Every move she is making should be protocol for future acts like this
We really need to know how many warnings there were prior to this, and why there are numerous rumors that multiple students stayed home because of the warnings, but the school stated that there was no danger. We can make all the laws in the universe but if were going to be willfully stupid it won't matter.
Irony only back in August she stated "In our justice system, the constitution protects us all." In a statement where she had a murders case vacated. I guess our constitutional rights don't really matter to her.
BS.... protecting his identity.
Sending love & support. Go hard on the charges. Count 1 Terrorism. Yes! Honor the victims
6:22 Dangggg. Yes District Attorney McDonald. 💯
8:51 Thank you. Only once.
10:09 Details on Terrorism Charge. Yes yes yes.
This murderer & parents sound very horrible. How terrifying for the community.
12:59 Dunk on em.
14:47 Shortly will be announcing if there are other charges
16:48 She is a professional. They are trying to trip her up
17:04 "mountain of evidence in this case. And I can't comment any further"
17:10 Question: What message are you sending with these charges?
She is a great advocate for these victims.
Schools need to put a metal detector.at every entrance!!
Lots of woes, why school shooting happened,irresponsible parents must be held accountable too.never happened in my country.
About time someone is focused on not making the shooter famous.
I do wonder what the less popular kids of this school would say about the "victims" of this shooting. I have to wonder if they would use words such as wonderful, and loving when describing them.
This prosecutor is very competent in her job and her attitude towards the victims. Kudos to her.
The parents of the bully kids should be held accountable aswell.
Guns has nothing to do with it. The main source is bullying. Stop bullying=stop violence. Simple....
"There's simply nothing we can do to stop this kind of gun violence" says the country with more guns than people. 🤦♂️
Did you not see what the damage of a car can do? Gun free won't stop crimes. Gun free will just stop people from protecting themselves. Shall not be infringed!!!
Don't stand on the graves of children to take my constitutional rights.
yeah evil guns, evil alcohol, evil religion, evil technology, evil vehicles ban them all, stay in your pod and eat bugs you will be happy.
Literally more people killed by a car than guns a week ago. I wonder why nobody is wanting to ban those. But the left has never been consistent.
Friend, more people die by hands and feet a year than rifles per year. And the vast majority of gun crimes are gang-related and suicide.
@@TheBananacoco12 bro the know the facts they just want to spread a narrative. But by all means don't stop rubbing the facts in their face
How in the heck did he get past the 'no firearms allowed' signs?
They don't teach reading comprehension in school today.
My condolences to the family that were lost and all that were injured In the horrific scene at Oxford high school It is unimaginable how difficult the families are Enduring We you need to stand together as 1 regardless of race Individually quality We need to unite together And make the United States of better place We can better prevent and Deter The situation by Adam Metal detectors at schools prior to going inside!!!!!! Because in the Hispanic culture we will be praying for all the families and victims that were involved in this Oxford high school incident all of Mexico will be praying for them!!!!!💪💪💪💪🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
I want to give my condolences to all the families im so sorry your going through this. May God give you strength during this time. Sending prayers up 🙏
Dads gonna get charged. Thats good, fair. Gun should have been locked up.