Nice sub! You got some nice grades with a couple gift grades too which is always nice. That Yaz in a 4 seems over graded to me but ya gotta take if for sure. I have been doing good with my videos with accuracy with PSA which is tough to do. Keep the videos coming and cant wait to see more. You gained a new subscriber!
Amazing grades!!! The Yaz really shocked me. I was guessing 2.5. I just submitted a bunch. If they grade better than my guesses as well, I'll be amazed. +1 sub :)
The Shriners show was great, as it usually is. I like SGC better than PSA for vintage.. plus the turnaround time is way better. Typically they grade - corners, edges, surface, and centering. The card's grade won't be higher than 1 point above its lowest grade of the categories. I have a Staubach RC that has 6 corners, 7 surface, 6 edges, and a 2.5 centering.. it's overall grade is a 3. Hope that helps. Great return!
That makes a lot of sense. So in a sense they would have rated my Yaz's corners no worse than a 3. I love SGC as well for anything, mostly because of turn around time, customer service, and price. Plus the tuxes look great.
Exactly, or possibly a 3.5@@Bostnfn . Overall grade won't surpass more than 1 full grade of the lowest of the four. SGC seems to be the toughest for centering, in my experience. But yes, turnaround time is great! Overall, with their value (I think they are comparable to PSA for vintage) and turnaround time.. they're the best overall.
Nice presentation of some great cards. You scored some impressive grades, to say the least. The Musial and Koufax cards are beautiful. Thanks for sharing. New subscriber. Look forward to more vintage reveals. Well done.
Thanks for subbing. I won't be doing another grade submission for a while, but already have 3 cards on my list to grade. I tend to just show up the Vintage cards I am picking up along the way, and TTMs. I'm not the greatest story teller, but I try, and gosh I love the hobby.
Very solid SGC grades on those vintage cards. That Musial card is a real beauty for a 6, that is considered a collector grade card . When collecting vintage , it is considered a solid get if you can match the grade to the decade, a 5 for a 50s card, a 6 for a 60s card, etc. Imo, looked like your Koufax cards could have been a grade higher.
Great return on your submission, you did pretty well. Love the vintage, they have good eye appeal. Thanks for sharing it, take care and keep collecting!
@@Bostnfn yeah I started collecting again after watching some guys opening cards....I'm very glad I was able to help get you back into it again! Awesome!
WOW.. they Yaz should have been a 2 at best. I have a 1 that looks like it should be a 8... Its crazy with how different each grader grades. Congrats. Awesome 9 on Brady...
Congrats on the great return! The Musial is a beauty, and so is the 58 Koufax. My guess with Yaz is maybe the registration and surface are good enough to maybe eke out that 4 for you. Thanks for sharing!
SGC cases look so much better than PSA in my opinion. The black background looks nice. I think in the near feature their values will start to get closer to PSA graded values.
New Subscriber, first time viewer. I agree with 100% with what you said. I don’t have a lot of graded cards either but didn’t do nearly as well as you. That Yaz rookie 4 with the rounded corners- amazing 👍❤️
Hey thanks for subscribing!!! Yeah I definitely lucked out with the Yaz. Who knows I did no prep work on the cards, just took them out of their top loaders, put then in a card saver, and handed them to the SGC guy.
Great slab reveal! Amazing grades! The Yaz rookie was quite surprising... don't know why it graded a 4 like the Koufax, because the Koufax looked so sharp. Oh well... congrats!
I think a 4 on the Yaz rookie was a bit liberal but not overtly, nice grade tho factoring the corners. The card must have had a fantastic surface or other attributes that were way above average and the grader was impressed. Keep in mind there are 4 main attributes professional graders look at; centering, surface, corners and edges - there are others too but those are the main 4 .... I will say tho - that grade on that 58 Koufax was egregious, that card as a 6 all day even being o/c... Unfortunately we STILL have a massive consistency issue when it comes to grading services tho.. And I think the grading service industry needs a massive audit... Look, I've been in the hobby for 40+ years, since the mid 80's and dealing/flipping cards since the early 90's - dealing in primarily vintage - and when it comes to grading and authentication - this industry still needs to do a LOT of work to improve itself... I mean, I've met professional graders that are in their mid-20's -- and that should tell you everything you need to know about how utterly careless some of these grading services can be.... I mean, make no mistake - I have no issue with a kid in their 20's grading vintage cards or cards in general (Ryan Nolan is a fantastic example) - but the kids that age that know their cards - are out there flipping cards, not grading them for $20 bucks an hour, lol because they're experts and they know what they're doing... And yes, I know every grading service has prerequisite exams and tests and such to grade professionally for them - but the exams are a joke.. Moreover that's not the issue with these grading services.. The issue is that you have graders that specialize in different eras of cards and different sports grading cards that they're not qualified to grade or have any experience with.... Look, I don't want some kid that specializes in grading post 2010 ultra-modern basketball cards grading my 1966 Mantle, Mays, Koufax etc - but unfortunately these grading services do just that... I mean it's totally irresponsible to have someone that has no or little experience with vintage cards grade vintage cards. Just like it would be totally irresponsible to have me grade a 2023 card from any sport - and I would refuse to do so .... Look, as a vintage card, collector, investor, dealer/flipper and expert and pre-2000 hockey card expert - I would NEVER grade a card that is outside of my realm of expertise, or a card/set that I'm not familiar with for numerous reasons.. But some of these grading services have kids that generally and usually grade ultra-modern cards all day that they're familiar with - fill in on occasion and have them grade vintage, and other cards that are way out of their league, cards from sets and eras they know little about and in my opinion that is totally irresponsible.. If you're a proven vintage expert then you should only be grading vintage (or cards/sets you're qualified to grade), and if you're an ultra-modern expert then you should only be grading ultra-modern cards... Look, there is no such thing as "one size fits all" experts in this hobby. We all collect certain eras, sports, sets and cards and there are massive differences between all of it... I mean imagine a kid that is used to grading ultra-modern ending up with a perfectly centered Ozzie Smith Rookie or 76 George Brett, and he gives the card a 6 because it just happens to have one corner with a minor imperfection??? could you imagine that? because as a vintage card expert I know how utterly rare those cards are to find centered and I would have no issue at all overlooking a slightly fuzzy corner on a perfectly centered Ozzie Smith Rookie or 76 George Brett if the rest of the card was perfect.. Anyways, sorry for the rant but I think these professional grading services still need to improve themselves and find some consistency among each other, and hire experts that specialize in different eras and sports and have them work exclusively in those departments.. No more of this - at one moment you're grading an Upper Deck A-Rod RC, and 5 minutes later you're grading a 1959 Brooks Robinson, lol...
Great SGC return! As someone who generally goes by a rule of thumb for post war vintage that I am typically happy with "collector grade" divided by 2, those are some beautiful cards. I am a little surprised by the Yaz rookie as I would have predicted 3 as best case scenario with those corners and edges. Congrats!
Unfortunately not. I really want to but don't have the funds to enjoy it the way I would like. Are you? I'm new to. your channel, but excited to find another Boston collector.
Well I'll take what I can get. It's a PC card as a rookie, vintage, and Red Sox collector, though with all these comments on how lucky it is, maybe I should check out how 3's look, sell this as a 4 and step down (up???)
Great SGC return especially on the Vintage those are some nice cards, SGC may have been a bit generous on the Yaz but you will take it right! Congrats on those grades really enjoyed the video.
Good to know the usps is screwing things up on your side of the country too. I had mail start in northern Virginia, then to Cincinnati, then to Indianapolis, then to champagne, back to Indy, then to Cincinnati, back to Indy and then to south bend
You gotta learn about grading, man. 4 and 5 are a sweet spot for vintage, even 2.5 and 3 if the centering and eye appeal are good. The cards in this grade range look nice, in general, but are within reach for casual collectors (except Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Clemente, Jackie, perhaps). You'll hear this phrase a lot: "Buy the card, not the holder."
As long as you avoid pinholes or writing (usually a max of 1) or heavy creases or wrinkles (max 3 or 4) the other characteristics don’t drag the grade down as quickly. Things like centering and general eye appeal can definitely help pull the grade up. For me, the corners mean the least as far as eye appeal. Nice returns! I think they are all nice grades and more importantly great looking cards. Koufax has some awesome cards. The 58 Stan is so cool. I use grading the same way. I will buy graded if it’s cheaper than raw. They make nice Display pieces. And to preserve condition on some. Congrats!
Thanks. I saw that you posted a recent video where you spoke about why you grade. We are in line with why we grade. I'm also starting a new stack to submit (if you call 3 cards a stack). It's kind of fun submitting and seeing what they look like when slabbed.
Hi Justin, thanks for checking out my video. Unfortunately I only collect autographs for the signature, and wouldn't pay a premium for a 1/1. Since Rice is $20 TTM, that would be what I'm willing to pay for any Jim Rice signed card. Sorry!
Awesome SGC return. I am going to guess they valued the surface of the Yaz, because that card so often has print issues and yours looks pretty clean. However, I would have definitely guess lower as you did -- I looked at buying that card for years and usually a clean surface doesn't kick up the grade past what you might expect for any other card. But, yeah, you did great for sure. The Musial and Koufax cards looked solid great to me.
Yeah still kind of shocked about the Yaz. It stays in the PC either way, I just wanted it authenticated and slabbed for display, but a miracle 4 isn't bad either. Thanks for watching!
Awesome! Great SGC return. Congrats.
Nice sub! You got some nice grades with a couple gift grades too which is always nice. That Yaz in a 4 seems over graded to me but ya gotta take if for sure. I have been doing good with my videos with accuracy with PSA which is tough to do. Keep the videos coming and cant wait to see more. You gained a new subscriber!
Thanks for the sub! I do a lot of TTM and try to buy vintage as the budget allows
Amazing grades!!! The Yaz really shocked me. I was guessing 2.5. I just submitted a bunch. If they grade better than my guesses as well, I'll be amazed. +1 sub :)
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The Shriners show was great, as it usually is. I like SGC better than PSA for vintage.. plus the turnaround time is way better.
Typically they grade - corners, edges, surface, and centering. The card's grade won't be higher than 1 point above its lowest grade of the categories. I have a Staubach RC that has 6 corners, 7 surface, 6 edges, and a 2.5 centering.. it's overall grade is a 3. Hope that helps.
Great return!
That makes a lot of sense. So in a sense they would have rated my Yaz's corners no worse than a 3. I love SGC as well for anything, mostly because of turn around time, customer service, and price. Plus the tuxes look great.
Exactly, or possibly a 3.5@@Bostnfn . Overall grade won't surpass more than 1 full grade of the lowest of the four.
SGC seems to be the toughest for centering, in my experience.
But yes, turnaround time is great! Overall, with their value (I think they are comparable to PSA for vintage) and turnaround time.. they're the best overall.
Nice presentation of some great cards. You scored some impressive grades, to say the least. The Musial and Koufax cards are beautiful. Thanks for sharing. New subscriber. Look forward to more vintage reveals. Well done.
Thanks for subbing. I won't be doing another grade submission for a while, but already have 3 cards on my list to grade. I tend to just show up the Vintage cards I am picking up along the way, and TTMs. I'm not the greatest story teller, but I try, and gosh I love the hobby.
Very solid SGC grades on those vintage cards. That Musial card is a real beauty for a 6, that is considered a collector grade card . When collecting vintage , it is considered a solid get if you can match the grade to the decade, a 5 for a 50s card, a 6 for a 60s card, etc.
Imo, looked like your Koufax cards could have been a grade higher.
Thanks for the information. I was very happy with the grades I got.
Roslindale guy here , just subscribed
Hey welcome! I've got a good friend that lives down in Roslindale. I'm up in Waltham.
Wow! Great work here!! ‘Yaaaaay me!’ Lol wow you killed it!! Live the vintage cards for sure. I haven’t graded cards before, but they look great!!
Yeah what a reaction huh. I was stunned/excited by the grades.
Great video! 4 is a great grade for cards from the 50s and 60s. Keep collecting!
That was my thinking. With my budget I’d be hard pressed to buy a 4
Great return on your submission, you did pretty well. Love the vintage, they have good eye appeal. Thanks for sharing it, take care and keep collecting!
Thanks Omyo. I've been following your channel for quite a while. Watching you open packs is one of the channels that got me back into collecting.
@@Bostnfn yeah I started collecting again after watching some guys opening cards....I'm very glad I was able to help get you back into it again! Awesome!
WOW.. they Yaz should have been a 2 at best. I have a 1 that looks like it should be a 8... Its crazy with how different each grader grades. Congrats. Awesome 9 on Brady...
Thank you, and I agree on the Yaz
Got lucky w grader
Congrats on the great return! The Musial is a beauty, and so is the 58 Koufax. My guess with Yaz is maybe the registration and surface are good enough to maybe eke out that 4 for you. Thanks for sharing!
That's what a lot of people seem to be saying. I'll take what I can get, right! Love your channel BTW.
Very solid return. Love the
Koufax cards
Hey thanks for watching. With my '59 I scored a 6 between you and Chris from Missouri.
SGC cases look so much better than PSA in my opinion. The black background looks nice. I think in the near feature their values will start to get closer to PSA graded values.
I agree completely
I think the black makes the colors pop
I like them all except the Brady, but mostly just because it's Brady. Not sure how you pulled that grade on the Yaz but that's a win for sure.
You might not like Brady, but he will always like you. My Impossible Dream Yaz.
New Subscriber, first time viewer. I agree with 100% with what you said. I don’t have a lot of graded cards either but didn’t do nearly as well as you. That Yaz rookie 4 with the rounded corners- amazing 👍❤️
Hey thanks for subscribing!!! Yeah I definitely lucked out with the Yaz. Who knows I did no prep work on the cards, just took them out of their top loaders, put then in a card saver, and handed them to the SGC guy.
Wait, you handed them off in person? Oh, now it's starting to make sense - you slipped in a $50 bill- lol Thanks for subbing back!@@Bostnfn
Great!! Enjoy your cards!! Yes the yaz is way over graded 🤷♂️
Thanks Dave. Agree on the Yaz. Love your channel BTW.
Great slab reveal!
Amazing grades!
The Yaz rookie was quite surprising... don't know why it graded a 4 like the Koufax, because the Koufax looked so sharp. Oh well... congrats!
I think a 4 on the Yaz rookie was a bit liberal but not overtly, nice grade tho factoring the corners. The card must have had a fantastic surface or other attributes that were way above average and the grader was impressed. Keep in mind there are 4 main attributes professional graders look at; centering, surface, corners and edges - there are others too but those are the main 4 .... I will say tho - that grade on that 58 Koufax was egregious, that card as a 6 all day even being o/c...
Unfortunately we STILL have a massive consistency issue when it comes to grading services tho.. And I think the grading service industry needs a massive audit... Look, I've been in the hobby for 40+ years, since the mid 80's and dealing/flipping cards since the early 90's - dealing in primarily vintage - and when it comes to grading and authentication - this industry still needs to do a LOT of work to improve itself... I mean, I've met professional graders that are in their mid-20's -- and that should tell you everything you need to know about how utterly careless some of these grading services can be.... I mean, make no mistake - I have no issue with a kid in their 20's grading vintage cards or cards in general (Ryan Nolan is a fantastic example) - but the kids that age that know their cards - are out there flipping cards, not grading them for $20 bucks an hour, lol because they're experts and they know what they're doing... And yes, I know every grading service has prerequisite exams and tests and such to grade professionally for them - but the exams are a joke.. Moreover that's not the issue with these grading services.. The issue is that you have graders that specialize in different eras of cards and different sports grading cards that they're not qualified to grade or have any experience with.... Look, I don't want some kid that specializes in grading post 2010 ultra-modern basketball cards grading my 1966 Mantle, Mays, Koufax etc - but unfortunately these grading services do just that... I mean it's totally irresponsible to have someone that has no or little experience with vintage cards grade vintage cards. Just like it would be totally irresponsible to have me grade a 2023 card from any sport - and I would refuse to do so .... Look, as a vintage card, collector, investor, dealer/flipper and expert and pre-2000 hockey card expert - I would NEVER grade a card that is outside of my realm of expertise, or a card/set that I'm not familiar with for numerous reasons.. But some of these grading services have kids that generally and usually grade ultra-modern cards all day that they're familiar with - fill in on occasion and have them grade vintage, and other cards that are way out of their league, cards from sets and eras they know little about and in my opinion that is totally irresponsible.. If you're a proven vintage expert then you should only be grading vintage (or cards/sets you're qualified to grade), and if you're an ultra-modern expert then you should only be grading ultra-modern cards... Look, there is no such thing as "one size fits all" experts in this hobby. We all collect certain eras, sports, sets and cards and there are massive differences between all of it... I mean imagine a kid that is used to grading ultra-modern ending up with a perfectly centered Ozzie Smith Rookie or 76 George Brett, and he gives the card a 6 because it just happens to have one corner with a minor imperfection??? could you imagine that? because as a vintage card expert I know how utterly rare those cards are to find centered and I would have no issue at all overlooking a slightly fuzzy corner on a perfectly centered Ozzie Smith Rookie or 76 George Brett if the rest of the card was perfect..
Anyways, sorry for the rant but I think these professional grading services still need to improve themselves and find some consistency among each other, and hire experts that specialize in different eras and sports and have them work exclusively in those departments.. No more of this - at one moment you're grading an Upper Deck A-Rod RC, and 5 minutes later you're grading a 1959 Brooks Robinson, lol...
Holy cow! Nice sub and grades! Thanks for show!
Thanks! I was shocked - everything was higher than I thought - shows how much I know about grading.
@@Bostnfn ah still awesome
Anything less than a 4 has creases with SGC. That Yaz has great color and just genuinely good presentation, which matters with Vintage
Great SGC return! As someone who generally goes by a rule of thumb for post war vintage that I am typically happy with "collector grade" divided by 2, those are some beautiful cards. I am a little surprised by the Yaz rookie as I would have predicted 3 as best case scenario with those corners and edges. Congrats!
Agreed. I was shocked by the Yaz. I'll take it for sure.
Awesome grades Boston Fan! My preferred grading service for vintage too.
SGC is excellent and I love their slabs.
awesome reveal! impressive cards! Will you be at the Cleveland national?
Unfortunately not. I really want to but don't have the funds to enjoy it the way I would like. Are you? I'm new to. your channel, but excited to find another Boston collector.
That was an amazing return. The Yaz. however, will have to remain a mystery🤐
Well I'll take what I can get. It's a PC card as a rookie, vintage, and Red Sox collector, though with all these comments on how lucky it is, maybe I should check out how 3's look, sell this as a 4 and step down (up???)
Great SGC return especially on the Vintage those are some nice cards, SGC may have been a bit generous on the Yaz but you will take it right! Congrats on those grades really enjoyed the video.
I definitely think they were generous or perhaps there were other aspects of the card that were very high. I have no idea. I'll take it though.
Good to know the usps is screwing things up on your side of the country too. I had mail start in northern Virginia, then to Cincinnati, then to Indianapolis, then to champagne, back to Indy, then to Cincinnati, back to Indy and then to south bend
ugh it was so annoying.
Nice stuff bud 🔥
Thanks!
You gotta learn about grading, man. 4 and 5 are a sweet spot for vintage, even 2.5 and 3 if the centering and eye appeal are good. The cards in this grade range look nice, in general, but are within reach for casual collectors (except Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Clemente, Jackie, perhaps). You'll hear this phrase a lot: "Buy the card, not the holder."
That Musial has some serious eye appeal! Congrats.
Thanks! I think so too. I knew that when I bought it was surprised by a 6.
The Yaz rookie is a VG/Ex 3, no way is it a 4. I would sell it and use the money to get an upgrade.
As long as you avoid pinholes or writing (usually a max of 1) or heavy creases or wrinkles (max 3 or 4) the other characteristics don’t drag the grade down as quickly. Things like centering and general eye appeal can definitely help pull the grade up. For me, the corners mean the least as far as eye appeal. Nice returns! I think they are all nice grades and more importantly great looking cards. Koufax has some awesome cards. The 58 Stan is so cool. I use grading the same way. I will buy graded if it’s cheaper than raw. They make nice Display pieces. And to preserve condition on some. Congrats!
Thanks. I saw that you posted a recent video where you spoke about why you grade. We are in line with why we grade. I'm also starting a new stack to submit (if you call 3 cards a stack). It's kind of fun submitting and seeing what they look like when slabbed.
New too ur channel do u want a select 2023 jim rice 1of1 gold vylne if so name a price got it out of a blaster!
Hi Justin, thanks for checking out my video. Unfortunately I only collect autographs for the signature, and wouldn't pay a premium for a 1/1. Since Rice is $20 TTM, that would be what I'm willing to pay for any Jim Rice signed card. Sorry!
Awesome SGC return. I am going to guess they valued the surface of the Yaz, because that card so often has print issues and yours looks pretty clean. However, I would have definitely guess lower as you did -- I looked at buying that card for years and usually a clean surface doesn't kick up the grade past what you might expect for any other card. But, yeah, you did great for sure. The Musial and Koufax cards looked solid great to me.
Yeah still kind of shocked about the Yaz. It stays in the PC either way, I just wanted it authenticated and slabbed for display, but a miracle 4 isn't bad either. Thanks for watching!
Apparently the grader who graded the Yaz didn't know anything about grading either.
hahhaha this made me laugh out loud. My kids don't get what's so funny!
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can someone let me know when he stops yammering on and on and on and shows the cards? Thanks
Kind of harsh, but I appreciate the feedback.
That yaz rookie would be a 2 now you know why psa is respected sgs not so much.
@@thefishhobbyist5478 Wow I didb't even know there is an SGS--- It was a typo meant SGC.
That grader might be blind I’ll stick with psa