If hypnosis can alter our perception and behavior, do you think it could one day become a common tool in medicine, or are its risks and myths too great to overcome?
I think its too risky. We already live in a world where we see the manipulation of the mind influence people to the extant of creating ignorance and self deception.
I don't think it should become a common tool to use in the area of medicine because of the risks that could and probably would come along with it, especially regarding the risks that are already associated within consuming any medication!
With all due respect, we have so many questions that was left unanswered. Even though he says that it's a well proven and documented form of "treatment", he doesn't give any percentage of how many the treatment would work on or any comment on the placebo/nocebo effect. Why are people needing to be re hypnotized? And how many would need that? Why do we only get personal stories of when he found hypnosis to work? Where is the science?! I'm honestly even more sceptical now then before this podcast.
It's obviously way safer than pills, not sure why it's being framed as risky at all. All hypnosis is self hypnosis, it's just as "risky" as getting lost in your favorite song from your childhood 🤷♀️
@@jwmmitch He does his research (he reads up on the subject) before every recording session; he's talked about it a few times. It's fantastic and makes him much more valuable.
As someone who studied and taught chemistry, math and physics. This is the best format for teaching I’ve seen in a while. When students ask questions about something that is trivial to the teacher (like Chuck does) other students’ faces light up as it clicks in their mind. That plus the comedic timing, run off conversations and jokes creates some really engaging content. Love it! Great work
This is why small group tutorials are fundamental to the teaching method at places like Oxbridge i.e. one-to-one or two-to-one sessions with a tutor, where students prepare then discuss their work, analyse ideas, and get input/feedback from an expert (their tutor) AND fellow student(s).
As a Clinical Hypnotist who has been practicing for 2 decades after graduating from one of the best nd most elite schools in the world; my expert opinion is that this is one of the best intros to the subject that can be found in such a casual setting.
CHUCK - when you are not simply trying to be funny, you pose some very good questions in this video. You apparently have quite a bit of knowledge about things that we just were not aware of. Good comedians have to be smart, but you just showed that you are smart in more than just being able to make us laugh
@@Mikey.M.V.P.1 = That is a horrifying and nasty thing to say. Leave face-shaming to it's ultimate practitioner, trump. Dr Spiegel is a perfectly normal looking human being. You should be ashamed of yourself.
It shows an open mind and a willingness to let go of preconceived notions, something that’s very difficult for a fair amount to do, especially those who- or claim to- champion science, a discipline all about discovery and having to be open-minded.
Started watching a few years ago for Dr Tyson, stayed for Chuck Nice! You can definitely tell he pays attention to all these conversations. The growth in his knowledge and the way he engages guests is amazing! His ability to speak on many topics is incredible and even when he cant, he throws in a good joke. Its been a pleasure watching all these years. Thank you Gentleman!
Everybody is so effortlessly funny and witty, which gives a great balance between information and natural conversation. This is my first episode from this channel, very enjoyable to listen to ! Thank you and greetings from Switzerland❤
@ the show is meant to be entertaining, without chuck it would just be one of a million dry pop science channels, him providing the layman’s perspective is a perfect complement to Neil
I'm 14 minutes in. This guest is so so so awesome to listen to. He effortlessly explains things very well and simply! Awesome sauce content here on this one!!
There are some really good movies that you get so immersed in. So much to the point, towards the end of the movie, you seem to notice out of nowhere, that the picture is compressed and there’s a black space around the edges or top and bottom, where that realization lands you back into your seat.
Thank you for the fun conversation, Neil, Chuck, and Gary. I greatly appreciate and admire your curiosity. The great thing about hypnosis is that it helps everyone use their own powers for good.
During my first clerkship in my first year of medical school, i was so mind blown my first week with my preceptor because he actually recommened self-hypnosis as therapy for a patient that insomnia that various medicines couldnt fix. He even told me he use self hypnosis throughout his training to help him study better too. Brilliant doctor too
Just started watching. When the professor says that you can be so involved in a movie you dissociate from the world. This happens to me when reading a good book and watching a good movie which is rare. I remember reading Hemingway’s “For whom the bell rings”, feeling anxious about the world around me and having a hard time calming down and realizing I wasn’t living in times of a war when you could die any minute.
As someone studying computer science and game design, it might be related to the state of Flow, in which your engagement with something you are experiencing is so deep that the line that separates your consciousness and what you're experiencing starts to blur. I'd imagine, due to what Dr. Spiegel said, that it would be caused by a state of relaxation that induces an inhibition of the salience network, and a very enjoyable and well written book/movie/game that allows you to reach higher levels of engagement and enjoyement, which in turn keeps your salience network down and spirals into the Flow state.
Today, I realized the actual meaning of a past life regression I had around one year ago. It's significance is clear only now, and relates to how my year enfolded. Dr. Spiegel's voice is so relaxing, It allowed that realization to come together.
I'm from the 90s, so long sleeve shirts under short sleeve shirts is a vibe I can really appreciate. Neil's ensemble this video has to be the fanciest and most cosmic version of this that I have ever seen. Me gusta mucho
I used self-hypnosis to quit smoking 25 years ago. I've never smoked again. In fact, it was two days after I quit before I remembered that I had ever smoked.
I mean I was looking up the app but I listened to this pod to the end, no worries. Very interesting and great questions and counterpoints as always! Thanks, Gary for this topic. Great pod, Chuck and Neil. 😎
I experience this intensity of focus the most when I am reading a good book. I become totally engrossed in the characters and the story, and while I recognize that I am not in the story and that the story is fiction, I feel like I am there with the characters going through the story with them. It is not a disconnect from reality but a stress deducing feeling of going along for the ride.
The initial definition of hypnosis reminds me of what we used to call "being in the zone" which is being so engrossed in an activity that the outside world melts away and you look up at the clock and wonder where the last three hours went.
Exactly. And while your conscious awareness is hyper focused in one direction, it allows the "less" conscious part of your brain to accept a suggested change. So, for example, to quit smoking the suggestion would be, "You are happy that you don't smoke anymore, you breath easier and your sense of smell is better without the cigarette smoke." "You no longer feel the need to smoke." "It's as if you never used tobacco at all." The suggestions are given in a positive manner and as fact. In the present or past tense. So you are not "going to quit smoking", you are "happy to not use cigarettes anymore" Then you come out of hypnosis, your focus is.back on your surroundings and you may be surprised at the time lapse and you may, or may not, remember everything that was said.
I’m either more adventurous than other people or a noticeable idiot that does dumb stuff… but I have been interested in anything to do with the mysterious and wonderful capabilities of the brain.. in the 60’s it was the new frontier. Now I’m in my 70’s and I use self hypnosis daily. I use it for motivation in the am and to go to sleep pm. Every once in a while I use it to address a specific emotion or physical issue . Once a week I use it for my spiritual needs.(as I age I need a spiritual connection to comfort myself. All alone, old, no older family member..I use it,now rely on it!
As a healing tool, imo hypnosis's potential is phenomenal....and, like any other resource, so is its potential to be used in an abusive manner. Consistent OVERSIGHT would be needed, and the structure of that oversight needs to be carefully considered as its provided.
I will never forget the first time I read "The Hobbit". The visuals that played in my head would have made Peter Jackson proud. And so when I finally finished the last words on the final page and came back to reality, I realized I didn't remember a single word from the book. I couldn't name any characters, I couldn't tell you any locations. I just remember the amazing journey and how it played out in my mind. I literally forgot the book I just read, because I didn't retain any of the words. I never considered that hypnosis, but listening to this makes me think twice.
Great conversation as always. It's hard to distinguish guided meditations from hypnosis in some instances because the goals and mechanisms are almost identical. There are more types of meditation than mindfulness and they do involve making changes in your mind. Mantra recitation, visualization, and a focus on specific outcomes to cultivate various states of mind are all part of meditation practice.
I live in Monterrey, Nuevo León México. And here, there is a soccer team called Tigres. If you look for the player André-Pierre Gignac, he used hypnotherapy, and the guy was a before, and after those sessions, he started scoring like crazy. He put the team up in the charts and won many seasons of the mexican league.
In the realm of athletic performance, they used to call the unstoppable state that Gignac gets himself into (with the assistance of his hypnosis sessions) as being "in the zone." I don't know what it's called today.
This is anecdotal, but my father was a pack a day smoker into his 30s. He went to a hypnotist to stop when he was 35. It was a split session, and he had a cigarette during the break. That was the last cigarette he smoked, and he'll turn 82 this year.
If there is ever a follow-up to this topic, I would like to see some discussion about the relationship between hypnosis and prayer, especially for healing. There are a lot of similarities in the mechanics of how they work on the brain. Not to minimize any faith or supernatural intervention here at all. All things work together for good. Also I am very interested in hearing your takes on the self-hypnosis videos on UA-cam. There you have strangers with unknown motivations messing around in your control room. I have done a lot of these myself and I can tell you for sure there are some very toxic ones out there. Part of the problem here that the risky ones can be the most exciting. 😟 It can become an addiction for sure & that concerns me. Maybe some advice on establishing mental safeguards one can use if one is going to engage in this sort of thing would be helpful to some. Thank you. This was very interesting.
True fact: I found myself lying down on the hosptalbed doing an biopsy of some of the lymphnodes inside stomac near the spine. I had some unintended pain twitching and shivers going on during the doctors approach with the needle and was told that i had to stop shiver because it was close to my main arteries close to spine, and it may not end good if i did not stop. I remember i was going in to this hyperfocused state, where i focused my pain from the doc's needle in the backand transformed it to my hands which i had in front of me holding together, and everytime i felt the needle enter i felt it instead in my hands, and it stopped my body from shaking, and the pain disapear in some crazy way. I've never read anything about selfhypnosis, but i see now that what i was doing was somekinda selftaught hypnosis and it worked. Strange how the mind works!
Hi,I had a strange and interesting experience with a hypnosis session. I had a persistent pain in my belly while I was grieving, tho no medical signs of injury. (I am female). The hypnotherapist put me in a semi-hypnotic state. I could still hear the traffic quietly out the window, yet was deeply relaxed. My hand moved to my painful belly slowly, then the guy said my hand would take up the pain and set down beside me. Which it did. My hand felt light as air. As he spoke , this proved the power of suggestion. He then suggested the pain leave my hand altogether, which it did. A beautiful experience, I will never forget it. (South Africa, Cape Town 1990). 🌱🧡
I held 1st place in standing long jump for 2 years, because I envisioned myself being able to jump farther, using the momentum of my swinging arms, body motion, knees, and a feeling of being pulled or sped up into the forward movement, an imaginary pit, I jumped across.
Omggg ! That’s so cool. I totallyyy idolize people that can do this. I was first in running long jump for my entire city, in my age group, and for girls ♥️ running was my favourite. I was doing running long jump, on the relay team, and did 100m sprints. At the same time I was just about to get my black belt in karate too 😃👍
I am on Neils sceptical side with this one. ANd being sceptical is advised here. David Spiegels app he was promoting regulary during the podcast comes with a costly plan that was not mentioned at any moment. That makes David Spiegel also in to a business man and not just a scientist. For me this podcast sounded alot like an ad for his product. Not insinuationg it was intentional tho.
I made it 30 minutes in and am feeling even more skeptical than before I started listening. I downloaded the app because I was curious and was really, really not impressed with that either.
Wow I can't stop commenting because there are just so many interesting points made. My wife stopped smoking cold turkey. Now she didn't use hypnosis but maybe in a way she was because of the state of mind she induced in herself through her mode of thinking about the problem. She correlated her smoking with a desire to vomit, and if I was a smoker I think that type of thinking would make me quit pretty quick.
I've been hypnotised a couple of times, years ago, and I must say that the experience was incredible and surreal: I remembered things I had completely forgotten, reliving them in the present time. Perhaps because of this, I found this episode incredibly interesting. Thank you!
I’d love to have this. I have a horrible memory. 😢 I’m almost 40 and feel like I’ve forgotten most of my life. Saddest was being at work, a guy walked in and I thought, “I know him….” He saw me and ran at me, hugged me picking me up and on the verge of tears. I was confused…overwhelmed.. didn’t know what to think. He stopped and looked at me.. “you don’t remember me do you…?” I know I knew him. I had a deep feeling that we hung out all the time but I couldn’t remember when or where… That was 10 years ago and I think of it often.. I don’t remember what he looked like or his name.. now all I remember is a guy coming into my work and being heartbroken.. I hate my brain. 😢
Neil, if psychedelics were on your radar this episode would have been a great opportunity to weave these topics around each other like a double helix. Its not to late to trip my friend. Also, Vipassana was kind of talked about with the body scanning meditation. Thats 3 topics to weave, psychedelics, hypnotism and meditation. Maybe throw in dreams and that's 4 to make a web of understanding. I liked this episode. Thx.
My mother-in-law underwent heart surgery under hypnosis instead anaesthesia. She’s in her 70s and was at risk of being under anaesthesia again since she’s had previous surgeries. It truly worked and she didn’t feel or notice anything during the surgery
My mother in law worked in a clinic with doctors in the small town my wife grew up in. One of the doctors was Filipino, he was a general practitioner but also did hypnosis and acupuncture. My wife would go with him to area hospitals to give seminars on the use of hypnosis in medicine, she was a great subject . He also used hypnosis during her pregnancy with our son, no labor pains at all, it was a perfect delivery. This was in 1979 and I can attest to the acupuncture as a tool also.
I've always found hypnosis very scary as it might do something unintentional like unlocking traumatizing experiences and memories that you may don't want to recall. Also how does hypnosis function when you have psychological issues such as schizophrenia, could it help?
I can't speak to schizophrenia. For ADHD, or OSDD, or a few other things, I can simply say that while the specifics of the induction may need to change, the general outline and behavior, and response, are still the same.
Boeing is no longer the same company, but (for the algorithm) I feel compelled to remind you that the last B-52 came off the line in 1968 and it is expected to still be in service in the mid-2050's, 100 years after the first one flew. Not bad for a company that now has difficulty delivering a plane with all its screws and without table scraps left in inaccessible parts by temp. workers. Great show, as usual.
I've read a few books on the matter, and it seems to be that you need to think of it as more of an art than a science. There isn't necessarily a right or wrong way of doing it, but in order to be effective you need to be able to "read" the subject and adapt to how they react.
I 1st saw Doctor Zhivago in the summer at a big-screen theater. All the ice and snow made me feel very cold. When I left the theater, I was shocked that it was warm out. I guess that is the immersion Dr Spiegel was talking about. ------------ I do not think offhand that I could be hypnotized, though. But if I could, there are just some things that I do NOT want to relive or even remember.
No way it works!! That's what I thought when I was a huge sceptic. Then someone bought me a session, in order to stop smoking. Not an impressionable person, I was CEO of two mid sized companies, steong, hard headed and , I thought, the least hypnotisable of all. The session worked like magic, i do remember it like one remembers dreams before you wake up. Stopped smoking agter 20 years and now I send flowers to the lady doctor who hypnotized me every Xmas....
That’s great. It didn’t work for me, the cravings overwhelm me. I finally quit using the patch, medication and an ink pen to put in my mouth. I wish it did work, I would have quit years earlier.
@@ROBERTE1963: Hello Robert, I may have the answer for you. Patches etc didn't work for me either. This is how smoking ended for me. I quit drinking but 6 years later was still smoking - couldn't stop. My son had quit years earlier so he took me to town to buy a book written by the late Allan Carr with the title EASY WAY. I followed his instructions to the letter and before I had even finished the book I quit smoking and have not had the slightest urge to smoke again - and that, my dear, was 10 year's ago. My son told me that he too hadn't even finished the book and he quit without any problem. Neither of us had a twinge of craving or desire to smoke again. Carr hits the problem with honesty. Try and find the book with that specific title as it is inspired. Allan used to smoke 40 a day and his dream was to rid England of smoking. He darn near succeeded as you only see people smoking outdoors; no one smokes in indoor public places. The best thing you will ever do in your life is quit smoking. Allan Carr will switch off your desire for smoking. Good luck.
It would have taken 20 minutes for them to try his app before the interview. I use it. It helps! And is really different than what we think hypnosis is.
Howdy from Texas. Way back in 1963 in a very small North West Texas town. My mother walked in labor two miles to the local hospital in the midst of a West Texas Red Dust storm. And once arriving at that small town hospital she was hypnotized, instead of drugged, in order to give birth to me. And apparently it worked. She said she had absolutely no memory of having ever been in any type of pain while giving birth to me. It always blows my mind that this was even possible back in 1963 much less that it was done in such a small out of the way Texas panhandle town. The town was so small that I was the only baby in the entire hospital at that time. I also wanted to point out that there is the well known phenomenon of hearing stories of things that happened to you when you were much too young to remember. But you hear these same anecdotal stories over and over again while you are growing up, and of course every time you hear it told, you are picturing that event in your mind as it's being told. And over time, that repeated story and your subsequent visualization of the events playing out in the story can often morph into not just a story that someone else told you about yourself before you had any memories of that time. But into a legitimately perceived memory that you have, over time and repetition, unwittingly adopted as a real memory. Whether it was true or not.
that's because the brain stores all info in our memory; even brains of minimally conscious people can store e.g. visual info if/when they momentarily open their eyes (they're not aware of it at the time, so info unlikely to come with a context if recall it after regaining consciousness)... it's what makes brain-washing possible 😮
Great talk, thank you for sharing. : ) Hypnosis is a very fascinating topic and condition for me, and these 4 people did a very nice and entertaining job, making it to their subject.
50 years I was using hypnosis to improve my performance as a ski racer. Using self-hypnosis, I reached the point that once I left the start gate my mind was completely focused on what was happening between my skis and the snow in a way I could consciously find the techniques to accelerate out of the turn and carry that speed to the next one. All while being aware of the racer in the course next to me, but the rest of the world was behind a fog.
I associated hypnosis as being in the ZONE in athletics terms. Where you doing it automatically, your senses are heightened but dulled or unaware to were there in harmony. In turn making your mind clear objectives without the static. Can also be OCD of cleaning or other similar compulsiveness
@ have you ever driven from point A to point B and when you look back you don’t remember the drive? That is a form of altered consciousness which is akin to Autohypnosis
I dont have a license and have only driven on private property. Mostly driving trucks in and out of garages. I guess it would be somewhat the same with cycling. Only i dont forget where i came from when i ride one. Even when i am in a place for the first time. The much harder part is finding where i want to go.
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 have you ever watched a film in a cinema and are so focused on the film that you are totally unaware of what is going on around you? That ultra focus is a form of autohypnosis
Darren Brown used to do some of the implanting images into people's minds in his stage shows. I was never clear about how much was just planting stooges in the audience and how much was actually influencing people's choices, but it was fun to watch. He appeared to use NLP or NLP-adjacent techniques, and he was always clear that it was an act, a stage show, but it was never clear where the line was.
Was a trial lawyer through the 80's to 2022. Two things should never get near a court to give evidence are a hypnotist and a chiropractor. Any competent counsel will not only destroy them, but also the case the evidence is called on to support. No prosecutor worth their pay would run a case based solely on the results of hypnosis, and only a complete ambulance chaser would be desperate enough to call a chiropractor.
Not understanding the chiropractor. I was rear ended over 20 years ago and I would see a chiropractor, about every three months, for years because of my neck. He was a younger guy. I moved to a different town and I found an older guy, in his 60s, getting ready to retire. Man he was not gentle and I was hurting when I left. He said it was absolutely necessary I had to come back for a second appointment. Went Back for the second appointment. This was 2018. I haven’t had to go back to the chiropractor since. Knock on wood.
“Relive that vivid dream” Remember, “Your memory sucks.” You’re not reliving the vivid dream, you’re re-constructing memories of the dream. Parts of the reconstruction *might* be very accurate
If hypnosis can alter our perception and behavior, do you think it could one day become a common tool in medicine, or are its risks and myths too great to overcome?
I think its too risky. We already live in a world where we see the manipulation of the mind influence people to the extant of creating ignorance and self deception.
I don't think it should become a common tool to use in the area of medicine because of the risks that could and probably would come along with it, especially regarding the risks that are already associated within consuming any medication!
It’s already becoming more and more popular. I don’t know for sure but it’s definitely a valid field of study
With all due respect, we have so many questions that was left unanswered.
Even though he says that it's a well proven and documented form of "treatment", he doesn't give any percentage of how many the treatment would work on or any comment on the placebo/nocebo effect. Why are people needing to be re hypnotized? And how many would need that? Why do we only get personal stories of when he found hypnosis to work? Where is the science?!
I'm honestly even more sceptical now then before this podcast.
It's obviously way safer than pills, not sure why it's being framed as risky at all. All hypnosis is self hypnosis, it's just as "risky" as getting lost in your favorite song from your childhood 🤷♀️
I love seeing Chucks growth in scientific understanding, as he gets more knowledgeable he gets better at asking profound questions
He does seem to have plenty of background knowledge with memory and stuff that was applicable in this video
Now if Neil would encourage and foster that growth instead of over speaking Chuck…
Now when Chuck screws up math - well that’s open season!
Is there a Chuck podcast in the future? I'd tune in.
He puts questions I have into words in a way that I could never do.
@@jwmmitch He does his research (he reads up on the subject) before every recording session; he's talked about it a few times. It's fantastic and makes him much more valuable.
As someone who studied and taught chemistry, math and physics. This is the best format for teaching I’ve seen in a while. When students ask questions about something that is trivial to the teacher (like Chuck does) other students’ faces light up as it clicks in their mind. That plus the comedic timing, run off conversations and jokes creates some really engaging content. Love it! Great work
This is why small group tutorials are fundamental to the teaching method at places like Oxbridge i.e. one-to-one or two-to-one sessions with a tutor, where students prepare then discuss their work, analyse ideas, and get input/feedback from an expert (their tutor) AND fellow student(s).
They're a good balance, these blokes.
As a Clinical Hypnotist who has been practicing for 2 decades after graduating from one of the best nd most elite schools in the world; my expert opinion is that this is one of the best intros to the subject that can be found in such a casual setting.
CHUCK - when you are not simply trying to be funny, you pose some very good questions in this video. You apparently have quite a bit of knowledge about things that we just were not aware of.
Good comedians have to be smart, but you just showed that you are smart in more than just being able to make us laugh
David Spiegel has a great radio voice, pleasant to listen to
Hypnotic
He has a face only a mother can love 😂 but a velvet baritone voice that's perfect for radio
Yes, pleasant to listen to... and that's about it!
I was just thinking that he sounds like Howard Stern
@@Mikey.M.V.P.1 = That is a horrifying and nasty thing to say. Leave face-shaming to it's ultimate practitioner, trump. Dr Spiegel is a perfectly normal looking human being. You should be ashamed of yourself.
This is one of your best episodes! Really interesting. Dr. Spiegel was awesome. It's also great to see you three sitting together.
"you're here to undo my skepticism" is an absolutely incredible statement. i know its relatively simple, but it made something in me smile
It shows an open mind and a willingness to let go of preconceived notions, something that’s very difficult for a fair amount to do, especially those who- or claim to- champion science, a discipline all about discovery and having to be open-minded.
Started watching a few years ago for Dr Tyson, stayed for Chuck Nice! You can definitely tell he pays attention to all these conversations. The growth in his knowledge and the way he engages guests is amazing! His ability to speak on many topics is incredible and even when he cant, he throws in a good joke. Its been a pleasure watching all these years. Thank you Gentleman!
Everybody is so effortlessly funny and witty, which gives a great balance between information and natural conversation. This is my first episode from this channel, very enjoyable to listen to ! Thank you and greetings from Switzerland❤
Chuck really makes this show, his relationship with Neil is so wholesome
In a comedy act, yes. This show, not really.
@ the show is meant to be entertaining, without chuck it would just be one of a million dry pop science channels, him providing the layman’s perspective is a perfect complement to Neil
great episode
chuck, never stop being curious, your questions make the show so much better!!!
I'm 14 minutes in. This guest is so so so awesome to listen to. He effortlessly explains things very well and simply! Awesome sauce content here on this one!!
There are some really good movies that you get so immersed in. So much to the point, towards the end of the movie, you seem to notice out of nowhere, that the picture is compressed and there’s a black space around the edges or top and bottom, where that realization lands you back into your seat.
It’s the same as reading a book or lucid dreaming. The “come back to reality” feeling is insane.
Thank you for the fun conversation, Neil, Chuck, and Gary. I greatly appreciate and admire your curiosity. The great thing about hypnosis is that it helps everyone use their own powers for good.
During my first clerkship in my first year of medical school, i was so mind blown my first week with my preceptor because he actually recommened self-hypnosis as therapy for a patient that insomnia that various medicines couldnt fix. He even told me he use self hypnosis throughout his training to help him study better too. Brilliant doctor too
Just started watching. When the professor says that you can be so involved in a movie you dissociate from the world. This happens to me when reading a good book and watching a good movie which is rare. I remember reading Hemingway’s “For whom the bell rings”, feeling anxious about the world around me and having a hard time calming down and realizing I wasn’t living in times of a war when you could die any minute.
Tolls.
As someone studying computer science and game design, it might be related to the state of Flow, in which your engagement with something you are experiencing is so deep that the line that separates your consciousness and what you're experiencing starts to blur. I'd imagine, due to what Dr. Spiegel said, that it would be caused by a state of relaxation that induces an inhibition of the salience network, and a very enjoyable and well written book/movie/game that allows you to reach higher levels of engagement and enjoyement, which in turn keeps your salience network down and spirals into the Flow state.
Chuck has so many qualities I see in my self and Neil is everything I wish I could be
You wish to be a r*pist?
I started following this channel for Neil but now it's all about Chuck, thanks for asking OUR questions to the experts!
Today, I realized the actual meaning of a past life regression I had around one year ago. It's significance is clear only now, and relates to how my year enfolded. Dr. Spiegel's voice is so relaxing, It allowed that realization to come together.
Thanks Startalk Team.
Another great Episode ❤
Thanks for having Dr. Spiegel on the show. As a counselor and hypnotherapist (retired), I have followed his work for quite a while.
Be honest, more conservatives can be hypnotized than liberals
What are your thoughts about music and lyrics as a form of hypnotism?
@@jd-tg1oxliberals are hypnotized to believe they identify as cats
Thank you Chuck for using your powers for good. Great episode.
I'm from the 90s, so long sleeve shirts under short sleeve shirts is a vibe I can really appreciate. Neil's ensemble this video has to be the fanciest and most cosmic version of this that I have ever seen. Me gusta mucho
Love that, and love Neil. 🌌😘
It's definitely cosmic. 😅
I'm also "from the 90s" and can't stand long sleeves. On myself, don't care if other people like it.
I used self-hypnosis to quit smoking 25 years ago. I've never smoked again. In fact, it was two days after I quit before I remembered that I had ever smoked.
Self hypnosis is that like Xanax?
@@timk5867 probably huge amounts of alcohol
@@timk5867 No. Xanax is a drug. Perhaps you are a dope.
@@timk5867😂😂😂😂 exactly
Did you fall in love w trump also?
I have phobias - and I’ve had them for along time. I really want to try this as I know it works if done correctly !! Thank you so much Doctor :) 🌷🌱
I mean I was looking up the app but I listened to this pod to the end, no worries. Very interesting and great questions and counterpoints as always! Thanks, Gary for this topic. Great pod, Chuck and Neil. 😎
I experience this intensity of focus the most when I am reading a good book. I become totally engrossed in the characters and the story, and while I recognize that I am not in the story and that the story is fiction, I feel like I am there with the characters going through the story with them. It is not a disconnect from reality but a stress deducing feeling of going along for the ride.
The initial definition of hypnosis reminds me of what we used to call "being in the zone" which is being so engrossed in an activity that the outside world melts away and you look up at the clock and wonder where the last three hours went.
Exactly. And while your conscious awareness is hyper focused in one direction, it allows the "less" conscious part of your brain to accept a suggested change. So, for example, to quit smoking the suggestion would be, "You are happy that you don't smoke anymore, you breath easier and your sense of smell is better without the cigarette smoke." "You no longer feel the need to smoke." "It's as if you never used tobacco at all."
The suggestions are given in a positive manner and as fact. In the present or past tense.
So you are not "going to quit smoking", you are "happy to not use cigarettes anymore"
Then you come out of hypnosis, your focus is.back on your surroundings and you may be surprised at the time lapse and you may, or may not, remember everything that was said.
Omg, I just posted an identical comment here, referencing the once-popular "in the zone" phrase. I had not read your comment before I typed it. Wow.
I love Neils giggling. It makes me so happy. 😂
Hehahhihihi
Chuck is really smart and knowledgeable. Asking the right question actually makes you smart
I want to echo other comments made here: Chuck you a true credit to this show, love your insights and witty comments.
There was a part there where Gary started a question, was interrupted, and then just never got to ask it... wow that kind of thing really gets me mad!
Seeing Hypnosis talked in this scientifical way really has opend my eyes as to WHAT is hypnosis really
I’m either more adventurous than other people or a noticeable idiot that does dumb stuff… but I have been interested in anything to do with the mysterious and wonderful capabilities of the brain.. in the 60’s it was the new frontier. Now I’m in my 70’s and I use self hypnosis daily. I use it for motivation in the am and to go to sleep pm. Every once in a while I use it to address a specific emotion or physical issue . Once a week I use it for my spiritual needs.(as I age I need a spiritual connection to comfort myself. All alone, old, no older family member..I use it,now rely on it!
As a healing tool, imo hypnosis's potential is phenomenal....and, like any other resource, so is its potential to be used in an abusive manner. Consistent OVERSIGHT would be needed, and the structure of that oversight needs to be carefully considered as its provided.
Chuck is the best!
As one with chronic depression since a young age I'm very interested in trying this app, thank you for another great episode !
I will never forget the first time I read "The Hobbit". The visuals that played in my head would have made Peter Jackson proud. And so when I finally finished the last words on the final page and came back to reality, I realized I didn't remember a single word from the book. I couldn't name any characters, I couldn't tell you any locations. I just remember the amazing journey and how it played out in my mind. I literally forgot the book I just read, because I didn't retain any of the words. I never considered that hypnosis, but listening to this makes me think twice.
Great conversation as always. It's hard to distinguish guided meditations from hypnosis in some instances because the goals and mechanisms are almost identical. There are more types of meditation than mindfulness and they do involve making changes in your mind. Mantra recitation, visualization, and a focus on specific outcomes to cultivate various states of mind are all part of meditation practice.
I live in Monterrey, Nuevo León México. And here, there is a soccer team called Tigres. If you look for the player André-Pierre Gignac, he used hypnotherapy, and the guy was a before, and after those sessions, he started scoring like crazy. He put the team up in the charts and won many seasons of the mexican league.
In the realm of athletic performance, they used to call the unstoppable state that Gignac gets himself into (with the assistance of his hypnosis sessions) as being "in the zone." I don't know what it's called today.
We need more!
We need more of this!
New favorite episode. Loved how much Chuck got involved and asked question I wanted to know myself.
Yes, IMO Chuck will ask the questions l want to hear, and generally the most interesting comments and best humor also come from Chuck.
I kept putting off watching this episode but wow i guess i just need to immediately watch any new star talk episode. this was great stuff.
Gotta do some longer episodes broken up into parts for these specials. So much information to divulge.
Some chapter delineations, with accompanying timestamps (i.e., an index, of sorts) would indeed be helpful.
This is anecdotal, but my father was a pack a day smoker into his 30s. He went to a hypnotist to stop when he was 35. It was a split session, and he had a cigarette during the break. That was the last cigarette he smoked, and he'll turn 82 this year.
Really great to see an episode of something totally opposite of what you usually do once in awhile.
You guys are absolutely awesome. I appreciate what you do and this one is one that can bring great change. Cheers
this has greatly changed my perspective on Hypnosis. I always thought of it as a scam. Thanks for this valuable episode guys.
One look at the pricing structure and dark patterns of the app, you were right the first time.
i thought that at the beginning of the episode, then he started talking about the app, now i'm back to thinking its a scam
It's "real-ish", but most practitioners are scammers ...
That's because it is a scam!!!
still thinking its a scam, even more so now after watching this.
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode.
If there is ever a follow-up to this topic, I would like to see some discussion about the relationship between hypnosis and prayer, especially for healing. There are a lot of similarities in the mechanics of how they work on the brain. Not to minimize any faith or supernatural intervention here at all. All things work together for good.
Also I am very interested in hearing your takes on the self-hypnosis videos on UA-cam. There you have strangers with unknown motivations messing around in your control room. I have done a lot of these myself and I can tell you for sure there are some very toxic ones out there. Part of the problem here that the risky ones can be the most exciting. 😟 It can become an addiction for sure & that concerns me.
Maybe some advice on establishing mental safeguards one can use if one is going to engage in this sort of thing would be helpful to some.
Thank you. This was very interesting.
Fascinating show! Inner pace...
Thank you Gentlemen!
True fact: I found myself lying down on the hosptalbed doing an biopsy of some of the lymphnodes inside stomac near the spine. I had some unintended pain twitching and shivers going on during the doctors approach with the needle and was told that i had to stop shiver because it was close to my main arteries close to spine, and it may not end good if i did not stop. I remember i was going in to this hyperfocused state, where i focused my pain from the doc's needle in the backand transformed it to my hands which i had in front of me holding together, and everytime i felt the needle enter i felt it instead in my hands, and it stopped my body from shaking, and the pain disapear in some crazy way.
I've never read anything about selfhypnosis, but i see now that what i was doing was somekinda selftaught hypnosis and it worked. Strange how the mind works!
That’s terrifying. Hope everything worked out. 😢
There should be another “Letters from an Astrophysicist” book released. Started reading it today and it was great! Keep up the amazing work.
No. I've never been so caught up in a movie to be totally immersed in it. In something that I was creating ? Absolutely!
Hi,I had a strange and interesting experience with a hypnosis session. I had a persistent pain in my belly while I was grieving, tho no medical signs of injury. (I am female).
The hypnotherapist put me in a semi-hypnotic state.
I could still hear the traffic quietly out the window, yet was deeply relaxed. My hand moved to my painful belly slowly, then the guy said my hand would take up the pain and set down beside me.
Which it did. My hand felt light as air. As he spoke , this proved the power of suggestion. He then suggested the pain leave my hand altogether, which it did.
A beautiful experience, I will never forget it. (South Africa, Cape Town 1990). 🌱🧡
Great shoreside and rightright on time!!
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Chuck, it’s not a comedian anymore!👏
David has such a great voice!!
I held 1st place in standing long jump for 2 years, because I envisioned myself being able to jump farther, using the momentum of my swinging arms, body motion, knees, and a feeling of being pulled or sped up into the forward movement, an imaginary pit, I jumped across.
Omggg ! That’s so cool. I totallyyy idolize people that can do this. I was first in running long jump for my entire city, in my age group, and for girls ♥️ running was my favourite. I was doing running long jump, on the relay team, and did 100m sprints. At the same time I was just about to get my black belt in karate too 😃👍
Chuck, you had some really great insights!
Such an enlightening episode for earthlings. Thank you for doing this.
Chuck makes this show so funny and watchable lol great stuff
I am on Neils sceptical side with this one. ANd being sceptical is advised here. David Spiegels app he was promoting regulary during the podcast comes with a costly plan that was not mentioned at any moment. That makes David Spiegel also in to a business man and not just a scientist. For me this podcast sounded alot like an ad for his product. Not insinuationg it was intentional tho.
yeah, as soon as he started selling his product I became way more skeptical.
I made it 30 minutes in and am feeling even more skeptical than before I started listening. I downloaded the app because I was curious and was really, really not impressed with that either.
It is normal that a guest on a podcast gets to promote his latest book or show or whatever. But this app seems a bit shady.
Wow I can't stop commenting because there are just so many interesting points made. My wife stopped smoking cold turkey. Now she didn't use hypnosis but maybe in a way she was because of the state of mind she induced in herself through her mode of thinking about the problem. She correlated her smoking with a desire to vomit, and if I was a smoker I think that type of thinking would make me quit pretty quick.
It was terrible how you cut that guy in the middle out of the conversation, over and over.
He should be embarrassed. He was extremely rude many times.
Love this show, love this channel. Thank you for feeding my mind
I could get hypnotized just closing my eyes and listening to Dr. Spiegel’s voice.
I've been hypnotised a couple of times, years ago, and I must say that the experience was incredible and surreal: I remembered things I had completely forgotten, reliving them in the present time. Perhaps because of this, I found this episode incredibly interesting. Thank you!
I’d love to have this. I have a horrible memory. 😢
I’m almost 40 and feel like I’ve forgotten most of my life.
Saddest was being at work, a guy walked in and I thought, “I know him….”
He saw me and ran at me, hugged me picking me up and on the verge of tears.
I was confused…overwhelmed.. didn’t know what to think.
He stopped and looked at me.. “you don’t remember me do you…?”
I know I knew him. I had a deep feeling that we hung out all the time but I couldn’t remember when or where…
That was 10 years ago and I think of it often..
I don’t remember what he looked like or his name.. now all I remember is a guy coming into my work and being heartbroken..
I hate my brain. 😢
Neil, if psychedelics were on your radar this episode would have been a great opportunity to weave these topics around each other like a double helix. Its not to late to trip my friend. Also, Vipassana was kind of talked about with the body scanning meditation. Thats 3 topics to weave, psychedelics, hypnotism and meditation. Maybe throw in dreams and that's 4 to make a web of understanding. I liked this episode. Thx.
My mother-in-law underwent heart surgery under hypnosis instead anaesthesia. She’s in her 70s and was at risk of being under anaesthesia again since she’s had previous surgeries. It truly worked and she didn’t feel or notice anything during the surgery
Even heart surgeries are done under hypnosis only? :0 This is difficult to believe for me, but I do, I'm impressed.
Prove it
Thank you guys for this episode. Absolutely enjoyed it
Why doesnt neil or chuck ever comment in comment section. 😢
We’re the “little people”. 😏
Fabulous episode guys. Greetings from Poland.
My mother in law worked in a clinic with doctors in the small town my wife grew up in. One of the doctors was Filipino, he was a general practitioner but also did hypnosis and acupuncture. My wife would go with him to area hospitals to give seminars on the use of hypnosis in medicine, she was a great subject . He also used hypnosis during her pregnancy with our son, no labor pains at all, it was a perfect delivery. This was in 1979 and I can attest to the acupuncture as a tool also.
So you accepting of scam.
What makes self hypnosis different from acting? Both need this level of conviction and been In a state inward.
I've always found hypnosis very scary as it might do something unintentional like unlocking traumatizing experiences and memories that you may don't want to recall. Also how does hypnosis function when you have psychological issues such as schizophrenia, could it help?
I can't speak to schizophrenia. For ADHD, or OSDD, or a few other things, I can simply say that while the specifics of the induction may need to change, the general outline and behavior, and response, are still the same.
Boeing is no longer the same company, but (for the algorithm) I feel compelled to remind you that the last B-52 came off the line in 1968 and it is expected to still be in service in the mid-2050's, 100 years after the first one flew. Not bad for a company that now has difficulty delivering a plane with all its screws and without table scraps left in inaccessible parts by temp. workers. Great show, as usual.
I've read a few books on the matter, and it seems to be that you need to think of it as more of an art than a science. There isn't necessarily a right or wrong way of doing it, but in order to be effective you need to be able to "read" the subject and adapt to how they react.
Making it about as accurate as the TV hosts that talk to ghosts lol. Its all an act.
Don't leave Chuck please
I’d like to see Neil try to get hypnotized.
I 1st saw Doctor Zhivago in the summer at a big-screen theater. All the ice and snow made me feel very cold. When I left the theater, I was shocked that it was warm out. I guess that is the immersion Dr Spiegel was talking about.
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I do not think offhand that I could be hypnotized, though. But if I could, there are just some things that I do NOT want to relive or even remember.
No way it works!! That's what I thought when I was a huge sceptic. Then someone bought me a session, in order to stop smoking. Not an impressionable person, I was CEO of two mid sized companies, steong, hard headed and , I thought, the least hypnotisable of all. The session worked like magic, i do remember it like one remembers dreams before you wake up. Stopped smoking agter 20 years and now I send flowers to the lady doctor who hypnotized me every Xmas....
That’s great. It didn’t work for me, the cravings overwhelm me. I finally quit using the patch, medication and an ink pen to put in my mouth. I wish it did work, I would have quit years earlier.
@@ROBERTE1963: Hello Robert, I may have the answer for you. Patches etc didn't work for me either. This is how smoking ended for me. I quit drinking but 6 years later was still smoking - couldn't stop. My son had quit years earlier so he took me to town to buy a book written by the late Allan Carr with the title EASY WAY. I followed his instructions to the letter and before I had even finished the book I quit smoking and have not had the slightest urge to smoke again - and that, my dear, was 10 year's ago. My son told me that he too hadn't even finished the book and he quit without any problem. Neither of us had a twinge of craving or desire to smoke again. Carr hits the problem with honesty. Try and find the book with that specific title as it is inspired. Allan used to smoke 40 a day and his dream was to rid England of smoking. He darn near succeeded as you only see people smoking outdoors; no one smokes in indoor public places. The best thing you will ever do in your life is quit smoking. Allan Carr will switch off your desire for smoking. Good luck.
It would have taken 20 minutes for them to try his app before the interview. I use it. It helps! And is really different than what we think hypnosis is.
Howdy from Texas.
Way back in 1963 in a very small North West Texas town. My mother walked in labor two miles to the local hospital in the midst of a West Texas Red Dust storm. And once arriving at that small town hospital she was hypnotized, instead of drugged, in order to give birth to me. And apparently it worked. She said she had absolutely no memory of having ever been in any type of pain while giving birth to me. It always blows my mind that this was even possible back in 1963 much less that it was done in such a small out of the way Texas panhandle town. The town was so small that I was the only baby in the entire hospital at that time.
I also wanted to point out that there is the well known phenomenon of hearing stories of things that happened to you when you were much too young to remember. But you hear these same anecdotal stories over and over again while you are growing up, and of course every time you hear it told, you are picturing that event in your mind as it's being told. And over time, that repeated story and your subsequent visualization of the events playing out in the story can often morph into not just a story that someone else told you about yourself before you had any memories of that time. But into a legitimately perceived memory that you have, over time and repetition, unwittingly adopted as a real memory. Whether it was true or not.
Amazing birth! And in the middle of a West Texan Red desert storm... Could you please tell me the day of your birth ?
that's because the brain stores all info in our memory; even brains of minimally conscious people can store e.g. visual info if/when they momentarily open their eyes
(they're not aware of it at the time, so info unlikely to come with a context if recall it after regaining consciousness)...
it's what makes brain-washing possible
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Great talk, thank you for sharing. : )
Hypnosis is a very fascinating topic and condition for me, and these 4 people did a very nice and entertaining job, making it to their subject.
50 years I was using hypnosis to improve my performance as a ski racer. Using self-hypnosis, I reached the point that once I left the start gate my mind was completely focused on what was happening between my skis and the snow in a way I could consciously find the techniques to accelerate out of the turn and carry that speed to the next one. All while being aware of the racer in the course next to me, but the rest of the world was behind a fog.
I associated hypnosis as being in the ZONE in athletics terms. Where you doing it automatically, your senses are heightened but dulled or unaware to were there in harmony. In turn making your mind clear objectives without the static. Can also be OCD of cleaning or other similar compulsiveness
Every time we drive a car we go into a form of autohypnosis
How come?
@ have you ever driven from point A to point B and when you look back you don’t remember the drive? That is a form of altered consciousness which is akin to Autohypnosis
I dont have a license and have only driven on private property. Mostly driving trucks in and out of garages. I guess it would be somewhat the same with cycling. Only i dont forget where i came from when i ride one. Even when i am in a place for the first time. The much harder part is finding where i want to go.
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 have you ever watched a film in a cinema and are so focused on the film that you are totally unaware of what is going on around you?
That ultra focus is a form of autohypnosis
@stephennicoll6936 kind of. Mostly when i was a kid. But usually out of choice as i wanted to shut down everything around me. Its focus based
Darren Brown used to do some of the implanting images into people's minds in his stage shows. I was never clear about how much was just planting stooges in the audience and how much was actually influencing people's choices, but it was fun to watch. He appeared to use NLP or NLP-adjacent techniques, and he was always clear that it was an act, a stage show, but it was never clear where the line was.
Was a trial lawyer through the 80's to 2022. Two things should never get near a court to give evidence are a hypnotist and a chiropractor. Any competent counsel will not only destroy them, but also the case the evidence is called on to support. No prosecutor worth their pay would run a case based solely on the results of hypnosis, and only a complete ambulance chaser would be desperate enough to call a chiropractor.
Psychics and Mind Readers would be the next two..
id add religious nuts and astrologists to that list
Great comment doc
Wait, I’m confused. What’s wrong with chiropractors?
Not understanding the chiropractor. I was rear ended over 20 years ago and I would see a chiropractor, about every three months, for years because of my neck. He was a younger guy.
I moved to a different town and I found an older guy, in his 60s, getting ready to retire. Man he was not gentle and I was hurting when I left.
He said it was absolutely necessary I had to come back for a second appointment. Went Back for the second appointment. This was 2018. I haven’t had to go back to the chiropractor since. Knock on wood.
“Relive that vivid dream”
Remember, “Your memory sucks.” You’re not reliving the vivid dream, you’re re-constructing memories of the dream. Parts of the reconstruction *might* be very accurate
I had great success with hypnosis for panic attacks years ago. I would like to try it for tinnitus now. Great show!
I hope Chuck stays relatable and keeps his comedy going without outsmarting us regular folks.
1:01 OMG NEIL ♥️😍 what a beautiful shirt you have on… ⁉️ 🌌🪐⭐️
Excellent episode --- Thank you!
Excellent guest and topic!
I suffer from anxiety. I’ve just signed up to see how reveri can help.
Well done! Please, it would be enlightening if you could update us here from time to time on your experience with Reveri :)
gary's snap at the end was pure gold.
😹😹😹😹😹 5/5
😻😻😻😻😻 5/5
Almost every time Gary speaks, Neil interjects and takes over.... so frustrating, to the point at 33:36 Gary has had enough.
Yup, I noticed this too.
I agree. Neil usually doesn't do this, and let Gary speak, but this time he was pretty annoying.
Neil knows science, Chuck is a genius
Yeah it's called the web..😅..by picking up your phone 📱