Nintendo has competition, but at the same time... Do they? Steam Deck, arguably the best PC handheld on the market just crossed 4 millions of sales, great sales no doubt, but it's nowhere near what Switch can get even in its worst year. People want simplicity, people want brands they recognise, people don't want huge, bulky PCs that can kinda do the same stuff as Switch. We're at the point where every time I see someone less gaming/tech adjacent posting videos of them playing Genshin on Steam Deck on TikTok or Instagram there are going to be people in the comments asking how did they install it on Switch. Many people don't even know that other options exist. So unless Switch 2 has tonnes of problems and absolutely no games on release I doubt that they will struggle with sales
@TakisEnjoyer Honestly you raise a really valid point. Let's not forget the Wii U failed because people though it was an add on to the Wii. I guess I'm talking about people like us, who are tech savy and watch videos like this. It's more of a hard sell than it used to be. Also your point will also stand with the Switch 2, they look so similar that maybe people will think the Swich 2 is just a variant like the OLED. Either way, You raised a valid point. I've reverenced this Comment in an upcoming video so look out for it.
3 titles: Smash Bros., Pokémon, and Mario will move consoles! After COVID, a new Animal Crossing could move a ton of consoles. The reason the PS Vita died and the 3DS survived was Nintendo support and known IPs
I do agree Nintendo's IP's will shift consoles. However they alone are not always enough. Wii U had access to all the IP's and did poorly. My argument is the Switch did well because of the Price point at release and When it released. It had no competition in the handheld market. With out the Third party support the Switch would have done badly. It lunched with so few games, The the Random Eshop finds and Third party ports gave it the breathing room till the Nintendo IP's dropped. All I'm saying is the third arty games now can also be played on other handhelds. At the price point the Switch 2 is leaked to launch at it's up there with those Handhelds. I think other than People like us who will get one day one, I dont think the Switch 2 will do as well as the Switch did. We would need to see some massive price drops. Again we dont know the games coming out yet, but if for the first year most the games run on Switch and Switch 2, All the Parents buying for there kids will see no incentive to upgrade especially if they have multiple switches in the household.
@@QTronics Fair statement, but these competitors are not well enough known yet; I haven't seen adds for them or know very few people that have picked one up. Steam deck is the only handheld I have seen some one have in the wild. Now that Nintendo isn't splitting their teams between home consoles and handheld all their focus can be on the new system. They've obviously seen the mistakes of a confusing name on the Wii U that most people thought was just a new controller for their existing Wii like the Wii Fit balance platform. They've given a number to their first console ever with the "Switch 2" to make it clear to the public that it's a new system. The hype of this release has been so huge the past year about when it's coming plus backwards compatibility of existing libraries confirmed that I think it's going to dominate the market.
That is a good point too, I guess I''m talking more on behalf of people like myself that also game on the PC and Checkout other handhelds. In all honestly I want Nintendo to smash it, I have 5 Switches. I love the switch for al it's faults. I just think the Switch 2 falls short in my eyes that's all. Will I get it on Day 1, you can bet I will. I do think the success balances on how it is perceived by normal people , households need to be able to buy multiple of these ( and the leaked price is well too high, espeically in the current financial climate). The Switch Lite is probably the best version, great price point too. Super portable. So again if nintendo come out with a variant like that in a couple years I think that will help.
Yeah no.. I own a Steam Deck, i enjoy the experience and all. But after all, it is a PC. Games usually work, then they don't. An update might kill it. There are launchers. You have to fiddle with the graphic settings. Controllers work okayish but you can't be certain how it works in your game. There are sometimes sound or graphic issues after sleep mode. As much as I like my Steam Deck, I love the Nintendo experience. Everything just works, it is tested, there are no graphic settings of button mapping issues. If you dont want to fiddle with the hard- and software, Switch 2 is the no brainer device.
I've had no issue with Steam verified games on mine ? The stuff you're talking about there is the trying to get other games to work. I will say though simplify will be a majour selling point. But paying a lot more for a game you might already own on Steam/ Xbox/ Playstation just for portability is questionable.
@@345345asdasd the Switch had no competition at launch. There was no other handheld still being supported. The handheld market has changed, buying third party games on the switch is a hard sale now when most of them are on steam and a pc handheld.
Please tell me the handheld that existed when the switch was launched? Vita was already dead, and the 3ds was already a Nintendo console. The switch did well ‘cus it was unique at the time, and obvs ninteno ip. Saying that though the Wii U failed and had all the nintendo IP.
No other brand that’s made a switch copy can boast the sales Nintendo can nor has the brand recognition. Nintendo is a global household brand. They’ll be fine.
I mean Steam has 132 million monthly active users, So you could argue each one of them has a potentially for a steam based machine, valve has just support Lenovo's Legion Go S directly with Steam OS, you can't tell me Value wont do the same for others? Steam OS is set to become open source too. Leading on from this, we have to assume every person logging into steam also has a PC/ library of games, that they could buy a PC handheld and just play them. not have to pay again, at an inflated price on the Eshop. Once the likes of EA and Activision sort out their anti cheat software on the Handhelds on linux that will be huge. Finally I agree not one company will take down Nintendo handheld market, but combined they might. Think How Apple dominated the phone market, only for 1000's of android devices to put up and take that share away. I think a similar thing could happen here. Especially in 3-4 years when the Switch 2 is the same spec but everything else has moved on around it. Remember right now at this point in time you can fully emulate a switch on all the PC handhelds. I will say however I do agree that, we're talking more about people like ourselves, not Parents of children. So maybe that's enough for Nintendo.
Competition is the least of nintendo's problems. Falling to wokeness is the eminent threat. Also the erasure of their own history because those in charge now don't care for it.
@QTronics Very slowly. When they aren't canceling them. 🤷♂️ The other brands are struggling due to wokeness and the fact that they are trying to make games beyond their capabilities because the aaa tech ceiling is now too high and they work for years to optimize every texture. I stand by what I said. Nintendo has defended a similar market against sega, sony and others multiple times each. Switch 2 gets third party support due to the success of switch and has mario kart, smash bros, zelda and whatnot. Competition for the switch 2 has a steep hill to climb.
Even aforementioned aaa tech ceiling is a bigger threat to nintendo going forward than so-called competition. Sure, we're only talking ps4 quality visuals but that's more than they've worked with before. We'll have to see how this affects their output compared to the switch.
Nintendo’s competition doesn’t come from something with better hardware. It is going to come from better games. You can talk about tech specs all you want. If steam doesnt have Nintendo IP, then it isn’t going to put a dent into the Nintendo market. I have steam on my computer. I don’t care to have a portable version.
Eh, Switch 2 will be fine. PC handheld is still a niche market and people buy Nintendo because their exclusives are just too damn good, both first and third parties.
Nintendo has competition, but at the same time... Do they? Steam Deck, arguably the best PC handheld on the market just crossed 4 millions of sales, great sales no doubt, but it's nowhere near what Switch can get even in its worst year. People want simplicity, people want brands they recognise, people don't want huge, bulky PCs that can kinda do the same stuff as Switch.
We're at the point where every time I see someone less gaming/tech adjacent posting videos of them playing Genshin on Steam Deck on TikTok or Instagram there are going to be people in the comments asking how did they install it on Switch. Many people don't even know that other options exist. So unless Switch 2 has tonnes of problems and absolutely no games on release I doubt that they will struggle with sales
@TakisEnjoyer Honestly you raise a really valid point. Let's not forget the Wii U failed because people though it was an add on to the Wii.
I guess I'm talking about people like us, who are tech savy and watch videos like this. It's more of a hard sell than it used to be.
Also your point will also stand with the Switch 2, they look so similar that maybe people will think the Swich 2 is just a variant like the OLED.
Either way, You raised a valid point. I've reverenced this Comment in an upcoming video so look out for it.
@@QTronicsdude its name is Switch 2. what kind of idiot would think its just a variant like oled 😂
@@SravisTcott The same idiots that look at a Steam Deck and think it’s a Nintendo switch. Or call a Surface tablet an Ipad. 🤣🤣
Nintendo will always be my Pokemon machine so no competition in my eyes
Fair comment, Pokemon wont be on anything else
3 titles: Smash Bros., Pokémon, and Mario will move consoles! After COVID, a new Animal Crossing could move a ton of consoles. The reason the PS Vita died and the 3DS survived was Nintendo support and known IPs
I do agree Nintendo's IP's will shift consoles. However they alone are not always enough. Wii U had access to all the IP's and did poorly.
My argument is the Switch did well because of the Price point at release and When it released. It had no competition in the handheld market. With out the Third party support the Switch would have done badly.
It lunched with so few games, The the Random Eshop finds and Third party ports gave it the breathing room till the Nintendo IP's dropped. All I'm saying is the third arty games now can also be played on other handhelds.
At the price point the Switch 2 is leaked to launch at it's up there with those Handhelds. I think other than People like us who will get one day one, I dont think the Switch 2 will do as well as the Switch did. We would need to see some massive price drops. Again we dont know the games coming out yet, but if for the first year most the games run on Switch and Switch 2, All the Parents buying for there kids will see no incentive to upgrade especially if they have multiple switches in the household.
@@QTronics Fair statement, but these competitors are not well enough known yet; I haven't seen adds for them or know very few people that have picked one up. Steam deck is the only handheld I have seen some one have in the wild. Now that Nintendo isn't splitting their teams between home consoles and handheld all their focus can be on the new system. They've obviously seen the mistakes of a confusing name on the Wii U that most people thought was just a new controller for their existing Wii like the Wii Fit balance platform. They've given a number to their first console ever with the "Switch 2" to make it clear to the public that it's a new system. The hype of this release has been so huge the past year about when it's coming plus backwards compatibility of existing libraries confirmed that I think it's going to dominate the market.
That is a good point too, I guess I''m talking more on behalf of people like myself that also game on the PC and Checkout other handhelds.
In all honestly I want Nintendo to smash it, I have 5 Switches. I love the switch for al it's faults. I just think the Switch 2 falls short in my eyes that's all. Will I get it on Day 1, you can bet I will.
I do think the success balances on how it is perceived by normal people , households need to be able to buy multiple of these ( and the leaked price is well too high, espeically in the current financial climate). The Switch Lite is probably the best version, great price point too. Super portable. So again if nintendo come out with a variant like that in a couple years I think that will help.
Yeah no.. I own a Steam Deck, i enjoy the experience and all. But after all, it is a PC. Games usually work, then they don't. An update might kill it. There are launchers. You have to fiddle with the graphic settings. Controllers work okayish but you can't be certain how it works in your game. There are sometimes sound or graphic issues after sleep mode. As much as I like my Steam Deck, I love the Nintendo experience. Everything just works, it is tested, there are no graphic settings of button mapping issues. If you dont want to fiddle with the hard- and software, Switch 2 is the no brainer device.
I've had no issue with Steam verified games on mine ?
The stuff you're talking about there is the trying to get other games to work.
I will say though simplify will be a majour selling point. But paying a lot more for a game you might already own on Steam/ Xbox/ Playstation just for portability is questionable.
Dude, this video is absolutely ridiculous clickbait.. Nintendo has always had competition. They'll be fine...
@@345345asdasd the Switch had no competition at launch. There was no other handheld still being supported.
The handheld market has changed, buying third party games on the switch is a hard sale now when most of them are on steam and a pc handheld.
@QTronics "the switch had no competition at launch" you are a moron.
Please tell me the handheld that existed when the switch was launched?
Vita was already dead, and the 3ds was already a Nintendo console.
The switch did well ‘cus it was unique at the time, and obvs ninteno ip. Saying that though the Wii U failed and had all the nintendo IP.
No other brand that’s made a switch copy can boast the sales Nintendo can nor has the brand recognition. Nintendo is a global household brand. They’ll be fine.
I mean Steam has 132 million monthly active users, So you could argue each one of them has a potentially for a steam based machine, valve has just support Lenovo's Legion Go S directly with Steam OS, you can't tell me Value wont do the same for others? Steam OS is set to become open source too. Leading on from this, we have to assume every person logging into steam also has a PC/ library of games, that they could buy a PC handheld and just play them. not have to pay again, at an inflated price on the Eshop.
Once the likes of EA and Activision sort out their anti cheat software on the Handhelds on linux that will be huge.
Finally I agree not one company will take down Nintendo handheld market, but combined they might. Think How Apple dominated the phone market, only for 1000's of android devices to put up and take that share away. I think a similar thing could happen here. Especially in 3-4 years when the Switch 2 is the same spec but everything else has moved on around it. Remember right now at this point in time you can fully emulate a switch on all the PC handhelds.
I will say however I do agree that, we're talking more about people like ourselves, not Parents of children. So maybe that's enough for Nintendo.
That's an insane thumbnail, good video
You don’t buy Nintendo Systems for graphics you by it for there exclusives steam deck sales have dropped from the announcement of the switch 2
Got a Video on this coming, It was a glitch in Valve's data there was no drop :0
@@QTronics whoa 🤯 but still
I think it's time for a throw back remake of the game boy exclusive to remastered games by Nintendo.
Perfect Thumbnail👍 Good points
Thanks
Competition is the least of nintendo's problems. Falling to wokeness is the eminent threat. Also the erasure of their own history because those in charge now don't care for it.
If wokeness really killed gaming, we wouldn't have any consoles left. Sony pump money into shit games non stop and they keep making more.
@QTronics Very slowly. When they aren't canceling them. 🤷♂️
The other brands are struggling due to wokeness and the fact that they are trying to make games beyond their capabilities because the aaa tech ceiling is now too high and they work for years to optimize every texture.
I stand by what I said. Nintendo has defended a similar market against sega, sony and others multiple times each. Switch 2 gets third party support due to the success of switch and has mario kart, smash bros, zelda and whatnot. Competition for the switch 2 has a steep hill to climb.
Even aforementioned aaa tech ceiling is a bigger threat to nintendo going forward than so-called competition. Sure, we're only talking ps4 quality visuals but that's more than they've worked with before. We'll have to see how this affects their output compared to the switch.
What a thumbnail! 😂
Fortune favours the bold
Nintendo’s competition doesn’t come from something with better hardware. It is going to come from better games. You can talk about tech specs all you want. If steam doesnt have Nintendo IP, then it isn’t going to put a dent into the Nintendo market.
I have steam on my computer. I don’t care to have a portable version.
So basically you're agreeing to my point? The only reason to buy a Nintendo Console is for Frist Party IP? As all the thirdparty stuff is else where
ahhh yes, keeping the Switch only because of the exclusives. 💁🏻♂
Eh, Switch 2 will be fine. PC handheld is still a niche market and people buy Nintendo because their exclusives are just too damn good, both first and third parties.
I agree, but that's also my point. Switch 2 would only sell for exclusives. As all the third-party stuff is elsewhere.