Here Is The Heated Discussion From Me And Ruslan The Other Day Concerning Maverick City
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2022
- Ruslan asked to go live from my page but I didn't know how to do it. So now I am posting it here. I think this conversation was important and beneficial though it wasn't pretty the whole time. These kinds of conversations need to happen more often in the body of Christ to challenge people's traditions, religion, and whatever other ideas they have. When someone watches this video I want them to just pray about everything. I want them to take what we say in this video and go study for themselves. I believe many like Ruslan are very intelligent and book smart, but sometimes they are too smart for their own good that they become carnal. They overthink stuff or can't receive the things of the Spirit because they are overthinking it.
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I just want to.say this if you are new to the faith. Take a pen and paper and go through the video and see how many times I said the Bible says compared to him. Everytime I brought up Bible he brought up church history and theologians. The Bible is the final authority! This is why you must know the Bible. It doesn't matter if 1000 religious theologians agreed on something if it doesn't line up with the Bible it doesn't matter what they are talking about.
@@champchamp4819 I completely disagree with your point. Marcus fought with Bible verses.
@@champchamp4819 Disagree strongly. Ruslan places wayyy too much emphasis on Trinity, as if it’s a heaven/hell issue; He should be placing more emphasis on how to cast out a demon and the use of discernment. He also based his righteousness off of his marriage and ‘who has the least divorces’, which was also very judgemental and wrong (42:40) (41:00) (34:40-43:00)
56:48 is where he says that he doesn’t believe you can lose your salvation… “Once saved always saved”
47:00- 1:01:00 is probably the main part where we can understand why Ruslan’s mindset is a problematic, unrealistic, lukewarm Christianity.
Exceptions for divorce are under the category *death* and *committing adultery/sexual immorality*. So this is why I think Ruslan really needs to reread his Bible. Matthew 5:32/ 1 Corinthians 7:39
Repent- Luke 13:3
All of this w/Ruslan coupled with not believing a spirit can be attached to “In Da Club” (50:35) and partaking in Halloween…It’s giving intelligent and lukewarm.
You’re welcome. 💁🏽♀️
You take so many verses out of context though. The Bible is the final authority but it MUST be used in it’s proper context and not taken out of its context. You use scripture to say that God is saying this and that, but God will NEVER misuse or misquote His own word. The Bible is an eastern book and you use your western eyes to read it. You must know it’s context, it’s historical context, the original languages (Greek and Hebrew) and the Holy Spirit to get a great understanding of it.
@@rodrod1515 we must pick up our bibles bc the word of The Lord is our sword & shield. We have to fight with our bibles bc at the end of the day it’s not about our emotions & feelings it’s about what the Lord says & he has told us through his word. So even if we disagree as brothers & sisters in Christ Jesus, we must not misconstrue what the Bible says. But it does seem to me for these men to have a healthy convo about where the Bible draws lines for us, They have to forgive each other start over and come back to these things after praying about it and asking the Lord what he thinks
Marcus, I cannot thank you enough for how you’ve helped me grow as a person and a child of God. Jesus loves you very much and I can see this as clear as day. You are loved and you are appreciated. God bless you 🙏🏻❤️
Marcus, I appreciate all the work you do for the kingdom, and I consider you a real brother. Although we don’t agree on everything (I don’t agree with anyone on everything), I still love and appreciate you and see all the hard work you do. Don’t be discouraged, and do not get weary in well doing! Blessings bro.
Amen 🙏
Amen
Amen God bless you Isiah
amen
Nice to see your comment on Marcus.
I love how Marcus stood ten toes down by himself; not needing someone with him .
Me too
First thing I noticed.
I think he was trying to play some sort of moderator. to be honest he was the only one of the 3 talking respectfully. and if truth be told I dont think either of these two should really have channels where they teach, I think too much pride.
I agree
Right period.
I am only a few moments in and I prayed and I noticed When it was asked if you all wanted to open in prayer it was ignored and when it was asked if you were a brother in Christ, that was ignored. Two unfortunate examples of some anger and pride, not love. When I have argued with someone and they asked if we should pray and I said no, I knew I was in the wrong after because that just allows more room for my flesh to speak. I think this is an interesting thing to watch and ask the Holy Spirit to help me discern things when having difficult discussions.
I agree
"Give me bible not your feelings." A message for us all.
Yep! Pastor Gino Jennings 😂😂! This man spits the truth and backs it up with Bible all day!
@@ThouOLORDartashield that's a lie. Gino is a NARCISSIST, slick, manipulative, cult leader.
Yes, the word read us.
@@ThouOLORDartashield We want Bible!!!
Put Pastor Gino on this live... 😂
When Ruslan couldn’t even call you his brother in Christ, man that was crazy 🤦🏽♂️ that showed so much about his character.
Explain how is meant to say that when he doesn’t even know the guy. It makes no sense whatsoever.
@@BucNasty32 he does know the guy. They’ve known each other for years and had a relationship before this video. Did you even watch?
Time stamp?
Agree
Agree 100!! That was insane
Dang this is hard to watch. Both are working for the kingdom in different ways. One is the feet, one is the hands. The enemy wants to divide us. I pray for unity in the body of Christ in Jesus mighty name. I plead the blood over these 3 young men. I pray if any of them are under any deception that Lord you remove the scales from their eyes so they see your truth. Amen
I lossed ALOT of respect for Ruslan after watching this video and the way he conducted himself. Marcus I don't see ANYONE besides YOU, bold enough to speak about things that are wicked with celebs etc. Keep up the good work my brother cuz you've opened up my eyes to ALOT. Blessing 🙏🏽
I lost all respect for Ruslan. He stirs strife and wants to debate and gets him on his channel just to fuss with him!!
Me and my sister both believed we weren’t “gifted” tongues. Until we heard Marcus Rogers preach it. We felt the power of the Holy Spirit, not just a feel good message. So we prayed and sought it and thank you Jesus we were blessed. It is a free gift ❤ Don’t put limits on The Holy Spirit!!!!
Can you share more information about your testimony please ❤
@@adrianaruiz3725 she doesn't have one. Marcus Rogers buys SUBSCRIPTIONS
@@pokascott693not true. Same happened to me and I’ve never been to one of MR’s services. It’s just a God encounter.
@@jen-lol5649 encounter doesn't determine your spiritual well being
As a former musician in the music industry, you can definitely invite spirits into your life through music.
The following is a boon buff and boost to your shield of faith to carry with you on your journey, whether you be in the Holy City, or in the wilderness.
Psalm 113:3 Psalm 133 Proverbs 16:7 Proverbs 18:18 Proverbs 19:17 Proverbs 20:28 Proverbs 25:25 1 Samuel 12:22-24 Joshua 23:10 Micah 4:13 Micah 5:15 Isaiah 49:5 Obadiah
WHEN GOD IS WITH YOU, YOU CAN DRIVE OUT 1000 ENEMIES ON YOUR OWN.
💯truth
@Star Martin yes!!!!
Thats why the bible says to guard your ear gates and your eye gates..
AGREED 💯
Discernment is key here ❤
Also, by default the guy on the video with Ruslan is a “yes man” for his channel.
Man I understand brother Marcus so so so much. This conversation reminds me of my day to day life conversing with people!!!
Facts… Marcus shouldn’t have been alone in this video
Preach it Brother Marcus. Continue to stand FIRM in the word of God.
It’s crazy how Marcus is speaking from the Word of God and the others are speaking their minds.
Right!!!!!!!!!!
Yessssssssssssss
Agreed! 👏👏👏👏🙌🙌
Facts 😂😂😂
And it is concerning to me that that curly haired guy with the sweatshirt is giggling and his body when Marcus is trying to speak. If we’re going to have an intelligent adult discussion about Christianity and the Bible, there shouldn’t be mocking and smirking and laughter so it’s very difficult for me to, listen to this garbage. I think there’s a lot of UA-cam pastors out there and I think this curly hair guy in the sweatshirt is just trying to get likes. He may love the Lord but Jesus said not to call your brother, a fool and he’s talking trash about Marcus and I just don’t get it and then telling people that he doesn’t recommend people listen to Marcus everything he’s doing is not biblical everything he’s saying in this interview is not biblical, so just be honest
In voodoo, they use music to go in a trance, to invite the "spirits". And in the bible, David used music to get a demon out of Saul. So If music can get a demon out, it can certaintly get a demon in🤷🏽♀️
Satan the prince if air waves so he uses sound ie music which is a form of so yes you can. I think that is used very often
Every knee shall bow and Every tongue shall confess 🙏🏽
Ruslan is a Christian and Marcus is filled w the Holy Spirit and it makes all the difference. Everybody’s a Christian until it gets biblical. 😂
That's no Holy Spirit. An anger spirit probably. Bible says to be shrewd, but Marcus has clearly fall into the trap. I don't blame it on Ruslan, rather Marcus himself lost it
That is true
You guys are completely missing the point. This man IS filled with the Holy Spirit and, though I don’t agree with his whole approach, he has a burning righteous anger towards sin and the music industry is ABSOLUTELY SATANIC AND DEMONIC!!! I don’t care about what you feel like music is to you, these people sell their souls and invite devils and that stuff can 100% create portals, strongholds, and a platform to be controlled by demons. If you claim Christianity, you SHOULD NOT be listening to secular music and by secular I mean anything that has to do with profanity, drug abuse and perversion, and not of Jesus!
This comment is it! Having the Holy Spirit and being a Christian are not the same.
@@moniqueacuna4657 they should be the same. They're not mutually exclusive.
Ruslan wants to cite everyone’s opinion and theology but Marcus just wants to use the Bible
Amen. That’s what we Christians should be doing. Reading and quoting the Word of God. God bless you Marcus
So why didnt Ruslan pray, something very simple and Godly. The enemy loves to argue. Ruslan has a provoking spirit.
That’s exactly what turned me off this brother! No prayer no Godliness. Especially in a potential argument where God is very needed.
So awesome when he started getting upset and you asked him if he wanted to pray 1st. that is Such an awesome way to try to get someone to come down and get on a more balanced ground and let the Holy Spirit come in.
He has no discernment Marcus!! You were right on. Praying while I’m watching this 6mos later. It’s super frustrating. Religious people are so much harder to bring to the TRUTH than the lost.
1st) Marcus told him
Do you want to pray first?
He refused
2nd. He can’t call you a “brother in Christ”
Debate ended
The one using scripture to back up his claims is the one who is right
Thank you Marcus for standing up for Christ! So many things taken out of context!! Demonic influence is REAL!!!
Marcus wouldn’t know Christ if he walked right next to him
Division.
Listen Bro. Marcus.. know that you are bringing the light of Jesus to the body! That's our role! You inspired his latest update on Kendrick because of previous videos you made! And I thank you! He straddled the political fence. And now he may think and pray more on his position. Praise God. You reaching out to anyone who has questionable behavior and has an influence is our responsibility to our bro & sis in Christ. Keep, keeping on. Stay strong in the faith and do not faint or get weary in well doing ❣️
From the jump he showed his true intentions. This was so ugly at so many points. He was definitely boasting and trying to shame you for your past. Marcus keep doing what you are doing you held it together so well. Feelings do not matter when it comes to the word. Keep stating facts. Bless you❤
I personally have been spiritually influenced by music to be more sexual and lustful. When i use to club and hear the music i became someone i wasn't when i was not listening to it. When i was fornicating ill throw on some sexual music to get me ready and i would feel like a different woman. Its spiritual without a doubt/ demonic without a doubt. Its helpful what you are doing marcus. We need the unfiltered truth that people have been afraid to talk about. Stay strong because you will be lied on persecuted and talked about. Keep going!!! Keep using the world while the lukewarms base their info off scholars and peoples opinions.
Truth!
Yes ma’am me too
I could not have said it better. Thank you for speaking for many. 😊❤
@@thequeenjpendergrass936 you are very welcome💕
Yeah I agree. There's this one song I know gets me feeling really sexual and seductive. It would give me a lot of confidence in bed.
But I wanna save it for marriage.
This conversation was very hard to watch. It grieved my spirit to see 2 men of GOD who have had totally different paths in life, but both love THE LORD, and just different communication styles. It’s hard to see Men in The Body of CHRIST JESUS debate like this. It could’ve went much better if there was a neutral moderator & everyone been able to manage their emotions. I love both you guys & you both relate to different audiences for 1 goal…To spread The Good News of The Gospel and bring the people to JESUS CHRIST. The very very last thing we need is the Body of CHRIST to be in division when we need you both! I pray you guys will be able to come together at a later time and it be with more Love & Grace like the LORD asks us to have for one another. 🙏🏽❤️💙
Agree
I agree. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t agree with a lot of the things that Marcus believes. I don’t agree that he should be pastoring either; he has multiple baby mommas/ ex-wives, which means that he and his current wife are both guilty of adultery. HOWEVER, I DO believe his faith is genuine. They both should’ve agreed to be guided in this conversation by a neutral moderator, one who likely doesn’t know either party personally, but who may have been informed concerning why they had this conversation.
Ruslan ain't no man of God.
PREACH !!! 👏👍🙌
Religious people say whatever sounds good, Ruslan isn’t a man of God.. the word of God clearly tells us to test spirits, not everyone who claims to know God actually knows him.
Marcus stood on the Word! Praise God!!!!
Thank you Marcus for being a bold man of Christ and standing up to the demonic influence that is happening in the world! I will boost and continue to pray for you Marcus, your family and your ministry!! I’ve been seeking the truth and I align with ALOT of everything you say! I pray on it of course and the Lord continues to reveal to me your page! Thank you for being brave and inspiring me to stand in the authority of Christ and spread the hard truth🙏🏽
Travis Scott (Astroworld)concert is the perfect example of what Marcus is trying to convey
So true!!
Facts
Your right on that...
Waoh u right
Straight up
I think a lot of people forget that Peter and Paul did not always share the same view but they both loved the Lord. Everyone’s walk is different. Where Marcus is at with the Lord may not be the same for Ruslan. Everyone’s maturity level in their walk is not the same which is why God meets us where we’re at. That is why the Holy Spirit is there to teach us and convict us.
Amen . That alone is why we shouldn't bash or slander . That's why We are to walk in love and edify one another in the Lord.. Pray for those who are struggling as well...
This video is foolish in my opinion. They both were off in some areas.
Well said ! I was waiting on someone to say something in reference to Paul and Peter not always agreeing but their mission was to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ all over the world. Marcus Conley in his speech a lot. Marcus need to have someone to have a theological conversation and teachings so that he can be mature in his delivery.
@@TonyaA7 I haven't watched the video but it seem foolish. Should be their private convo. Post it for what?
@@TonyaA7 don't think it is foolish because we are living in times when people preach doctrines of demons and people don't have the basic discernment. I understand that Ruslan believes in "once saved always saved" will you still follow him?
Paul also confronted Peter on his hypocrisy, too.
Haha I love you guys 😂 I’m laughing because you guys remind me of the disciples of Jesus arguing and then asking Jesus ‘who right ? Who right?’ ..this should be a private convo followed by a ‘hug it out’ in Jesus name
You’re a great man of God, Marcus! Keep representing Christ in all you do!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
It's because you have a "bad past" that the Lord chose you. Because you can understand better those who had the same path as you and you are also a living proof that people can change.
AMEN! 🙏🏻
A Resounding yes and Amen!!
Amen 🙏 ❤
Yes both Ruslan and Marcus 🙏🏾
AMEN Exactly
Yes MUSIC DOES OPEN DOORS TO DEMON ATTACK!!!
I used to listen to bad bunny and I would think lustful thoughts. Now that I don't listen to that type of music. Lustful thoughts are gone!!!
Make no room for evil!!
Amen 🙏
That’s part of the demonic agenda… what the music, lyrics and the music videos are showing and saying.
Bro Marcus I loved how you just keep referring to the word which is the truth. Keep being you never compromise....
Awesome video, you were real and you went straight to the word. Keep up the good work.
I can be wrong, but it seems like the only reason they are bringing up Marcus marriage history is to find some type of way to legitimately discredit him. And that's sad on both sides, because as Christians we should be trying to lift each other up not tear each other down, because the last time I checked we all have sin and come short of the glory of God. Again it's about winning Souls not about who's the most righteous
I think at this point it might be best for all parties to take a step back and stop making videos about one another. It isn’t edifying to the body of Christ and satan is laughing. I was grieved when I watched this. Marcus you are truly gifted and don’t have to explain your position to anyone. Some people have their heart set on disagreeing no matter how hard you try to explain. Keep preaching truth and if others can’t receive, do what the Bible says and shake the dust off your feet. You got this brother.😊
I too was so grieved by this in so many ways on both of their parts. 😢
The following is a boon buff and boost to your shield of faith to carry with you on your journey, whether you be in the Holy City, or in the wilderness.
Psalm 113:3 Psalm 133 Proverbs 16:7 Proverbs 18:18 Proverbs 19:17 Proverbs 20:28 Proverbs 25:25 1 Samuel 12:22-24 Joshua 23:10 Micah 4:13 Micah 5:15 Isaiah 49:5 Obadiah
WHEN GOD IS WITH YOU, YOU CAN DRIVE OUT 1000 ENEMIES ON YOUR OWN.
I agree, making videos on each other is just "fueling the divide."
Brother Marcus a scripture that tells us how thing effect us is Proverbs 4:23 Keep your heart with all diligence for all the issues of life flow from it. We put a guard on our heart by what we see what we hear and what we say. Keep up the Brave Work u do. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏
Knowledge puffs us up and charity/love never fails in Jesus name🙏👋🙌🏋️♂️🤺🗣🔥.
I’ve been a follower of your ministry because during the Black Lives Matter movement you saw a open door to go out and win souls! What you did was so bold and courageous! It brought tears to my eyes. I knew you were the real deal He who wins souls is wise, that’s what the Bible says. Continue to be about the Fathers business.
The following is a boon buff and boost to your shield of faith to carry with you on your journey, whether you be in the Holy City, or in the wilderness.
Psalm 113:3 Psalm 133 Proverbs 16:7 Proverbs 18:18 Proverbs 19:17 Proverbs 20:28 Proverbs 25:25 1 Samuel 12:22-24 Joshua 23:10 Micah 4:13 Micah 5:15 Isaiah 49:5 Obadiah
WHEN GOD IS WITH YOU, YOU CAN DRIVE OUT 1000 ENEMIES ON YOUR OWN.
I feel very disappointed with Ruslan, he was very immature and full of pride.
I felt you were very fair Marcus and straight up. God is going to reveal the truth. You have more support than you know, be encouraged brother 🙏🏼❤️
Me too, sis.
Yes I like Ruslan but I agree with Marcus, at times he seems to not call things the way they are such as sin. He does seem politically correct with his stance.I believe God shows us in the word his truth. U don't have to be a theologian. I got baptized in Spirit with tongues one month after. An I have been a Christian since 1987. But He showed me tongues is for everyone if they become like a child an want it. I didn't understand what it was, but I said if it's from God I want it. I believe that's why I received it approx. 1 month after. I don't agree with Marcus about everything, but I consider him my brother.
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I’ve never heard of him until today. I thank Jesus for who am today because I have acquired much patience to even hear him talk…
Marcus or anyone who needs to answer to questions about how listening to certain music is a sin, Proverbs, 23: 7: "As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he".
Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience
Note:
Yes air as in airwaves (music)!
Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Brother Marcus, GOD bless you for having the patience, the strength and perseverance in having this conversation. Watching the first 11 min of this “conversation” more like discussion was tiresome 😩 the immaturity level of this guy is daunting. Maybe they are reading the NIV version of the Bible lol. GOD bless you brother Marcus ❤🙏🏽 We already know what true Christians look like and how they behave.
Thank you Marcus you are one of the realist people God has ever lead me to watch, you are standing on truth, on bible and on revelation. Satan uses the air and his minions to operate his magic to decieve the people through drugs, watch people watch and listen to. Thank you brother you are amazing keep going, inspiration to us all wanting to worship God in spirit and in truth
I was an atheist that was into party scenes, drugs, alcohol and I use to listen to bad buny and all of the secular music. Now freed and filled with the holy spirit I see how music does have an influence. Worship music ministers your heart with the presence of the Lord and u start to cryand feel free. Secular music, I remember always made me feel ready to party, to lust etc. Some songs like rap made me feel mad for no reason and rock music. Now u got other songs that make u feel sad and depressed like u went through a break up while you're single lol, so yes it does influence because then those feelings turn into actions! God bless u Marcus! Thanks for backing it up with the word and not man-made doctrines.
Wow Amen Glory To God. Your Testimony is Healing
HalleluYAH
Ruslan is getting angry...
Look at how Ruslan is being convicted and his gay friend is backing him up
I hate to see two Brothers that I love dearly in a conversation like this. Right at the jump Marcus had the right idea to pray before you launched into this conversation. I’ve been there myself. Praying first is always the right answer. Everything goes better after that. It’s good (and Biblical) to talk and work out a problem. But if you don’t put Christ at the front and center - pride, self righteousness, self-defense, jumps in and it goes down hill from there. Praying for both of you.
I agree they def should've prayed first! then possibly they would've had praise for God's glory in they're hearts instead of self focusing on trying to be right in the eyes of the world
So much confusion and no listening 👂
Definitely should have prayed first..
Pride and many of the things you named ran this conversation....
He had the right idea, but he was just as emotional lol.
Ruslan shut the prayer down tho 🤔
It makes my heart hurt to see the way some Christian leaders have tried to belittle you and misrepresent you. All of us who follow you love and appreciate your content. We’re in the great falling away, trust me when I say you will never fall away from the Holy Spirit. You are written in the lambs book of life my friend. Do not Ever let ANYONE steal your shine. You glow from the love of God. Forget the haters. Love you pastor Marcus ! Don’t you ever forget how NEEDED you are by the lost sheep like me !
One thing for sure that they both have in common is their passion for the Lord.
Proverbs 29:11 A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control.
People like you give me hope 🙏🏽
Amen!
Agreed we need to pray for the both of them 🙏🏾
Keep doing what you’re doing brother Marcus. It’s not all about content but about winning hearts for God! Keep what will edify the Spirit and allow God to continue telling you what to do and lead the way. In Jesus name amen. Amen.
Dude this guy is all head knowledge, Marcus has the spirit! Don’t waste you time Marcus . They deny the power! These are the same people that can’t move mountains. Keep moving mountains Marcus don’t waste you time with them that are of little faith.
Right
Yes yes yes. The ego on Ruslan grows day by day. You can tell who walks closely with Christ. 100%
We need to pray for the both of them since they both have issues
Notice that when Marcus tries to go scriptural to prove things the other guy doesn't really want to go.
@@b1gmanassassin724 right
100% with you Marcus I live in France and Christ is the path but it feels good to know that I'm not alone
Ruslan sounds so wordly.
It’s crazy , I got put on to Marcus almost a year ago and one thing I know this man will always back it up with the word of God . Even helps correct me when I’ve slipped or backslided. I tap in here and there . I seen some of Ruslan vids over the months and In my spirit I always felt like he was just targeting everyone he posted about , his videos never really would help a Christian , but target them . At the end of the day the world will past (people including theologians) but the word of the living God will not (Matthew 24:35) . This isn’t about politics, theologians, and historians. It’s about the word . Much respect Marcus 🗣️
Awesome scripture.
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I think Ruslan feeling were hurt by Marcus calling him fake. Ruslan was hostile from the beginning. I'm glad you stood strong on the Bible Marcus.
Great example of the boldness of God at work, we have to really stand on the word of God and be unmovable and unshakable in that. Glory to God 🙏🏾🙌🏽
Arguing with Religious people is arguing with Leviathan… that demonic spirit twists Everything!!! They showed that they have a leviathan spirit. We’re with you Marcus. Ignore them and keep loving and leading people to Jesus as you have always done!!! I’ve followed you for 7 years and you absolutely love Jesus and speak the Truth. Ty✝️
From watching Ruslan more and paying attention to his body language he seems to have more of a intellectual relationship with God than a Spirit filled one. And that is dangerous because you have to have a true sincere Spirit filled relationship with the Lord. Look at Phanatik aka Brady from the Cross movement he had a very intellectual connection with Christianity and eventually he denounced his faith in the Lord. When you have a true Spirit filled relationship with the Lord you will never turn away from the faith!
Exactly...
He can't have an "intellectual" spirit from the Father if he still celebrates Halloween.
@prospermusicnyc brother we have to be mindful that salvation is individual and we don’t know the godly lifestyle that Ruslan lives on. Paul and Peter did not always agree with one another but that does not tAke away that they went to heaven and they fought the fight to keep the gospel live. Paul was an educated man and Peter was not. Ruslan brings out forth with the conversation of having an theological perspective and from a critical theory that allows a conversation to agree to disagree and not coming down at each other foe the lack of who is right and wrong. God bless you!
My neck tenses when I hear Ruslan speak, sorry, I had to stop listening early on. Yes, the music industry is demonic, it opens doors.
Keep going Marcus and may God continue to bless your ministry for His Kingdom 🤍🙏🏼
I love your music and I can definitely feel the Holy Spirit when I listen to it. Is some of the other artists that I have Heard Ruslan talk about Had the feeling when they started but many I feel have lost it. Scripture says that we need to hold each other accountable especially our brotheren. We are to gently rebuke each other and keep each other in the faith
Marcus, sir you are IN THE WORD! Much RESPECT! Praying for you!
I follow both Marcus and Ruslan. I know Marcus can come across as arrogant and prideful at times but this video changed my whole perspective of him . He is genuine and real . We all need someone like Marcus in our lives .
You can see the fruits right Amen brother Marcus Roger is a real man of God no fake 🙏
I UNSUBBED from Ruslans TMZ channel a long time ago. Not for me.
Actually the other guy appeared far more prideful and even arrogant at times. He talked more from his perspective and ideals than Bible, but got heavy on the Bible for certain things like the trinity
@@gregsaidit the Bible has the last word.
Me too
"it's not black and white" "the bible is black and white with a little bit of red, bro" ... That got me😂
Me too
Mad respect for Marcus Rodgers he handled that double team very well , they tried to pick him apart but he stood firm
Keep preaching, sir...he is running from the truth and the truth shall set you free!
Wow. I would’ve lost it at “give me the details about your divorce”, “how many times did you get divorced”. & this happened in the past. Kudos to you bro Marcus. I don’t know of Ruslan but he has a lot of pride. & the moderator is clearly on Ruslan’s side. Keep doing what you’re doing bro Marcus
Honestly we need more conversations about marriage because ruslan seems to have a very on paper approach to marriage. I knew exactly what Marcus was talking about and he was frustrated because u can tell ruslan didn't have the ears to hear. He kept mentioning scholars and paying tooooo much homage to church leaders ect. Boasting about being married to one woman. But I mean u have Jewish people who refuse to accept jesus as their personal savior and lord...they still preparing for the first coming of their "messiah" but they are "experts" at knowing the law of Moses and the old testament. Doesn't mean all will understand. God gives us understanding in seasons. Just like on the topic of racism. Why did these same white ministers/scholars (and I get it they werent just white. But a great deal of them were.) from back in the day take so long to realize hmm..
Say... maybe we shouldn't have slaves and mistreat them? Some of them read genesis...God separated light from the darkness and decided to do the same for people but in discrimination and segregation because of their prejudice, hatred and misunderstanding. Like it's possible an entire generation of people can misunderstand something. The jews will one day realize the "messiah" they were preparing for is the antichrist before they flee to the Judea and hide in the mountains. But they genuinely probably misunderstood but stubborn to receive the truth even if it made sense.
I think people need to pray to God to understand marriage in the way he designed it.
By 1.) Understanding the nature between God and Judah
2.) Understanding the nature of Jesus and the Church.
3.) Understanding the importance of our relationship with Jesus...in order to be worthy of a relationship with God.
4.) Understanding the family dynamic in colossians chapter 3 and understanding that even if everybody in the family doesn't honor their role...doesn't excuse a person to not follow their role but a calling to pray for the other members.
5.) Pray. And to not be fearful of God acting on it.
Because their are people in adulterous unions...but because on "paper" they are legally married they genuinely assume that God recognizes the covenant as well.
Some people literally confuse God's instructions on marriage, remarriage, and divorce.
I could explain but this is long enough I think people should do a Bible study on why did God create marriage and is it his will for me? If it is who is the right person for me? And sometimes mistakes will be made because we lack understanding thats human nature but us who believe need to trust God will provide us the answers because the truth may shock people. I say that as a person who once was confused about marriage (My Dad married 3 times and my mom is his second wife. My dad is a devout Christian) but his stance on marriage confused me. I had to pray to God for understanding. But my lack of understanding has lead me to also get legally married, legally divorced, and legally married again. But there is a story if you just read it black and white...then imma look like a... lady at the well. A rahab. And I understand cuz again I operated out of confusion. Nobody educated me on it prior. I had to pray and unlearn. And God has answered my prayers and he can do the same for anyone else who asks.
It only seems like the mod was on Ruslan's side because Ruslan was correct on every issue the mod spoke up and interjected in on.
@@Chesterchurch you think Ruslan was right about every issue? Did I read that correctly
He doesn't need the details about the divorce. That was out of line for him to ask. He already knows that Marcus is divorced, and remarried which disqualifies him from being able to pastor (1 Timothy 3:2-5),(Titus 1:5-7) and to fellowship with the saints (1 Corinthians 5:9-10),(Mark 10:10-12),(Romans 7:2-4).
@@CalledUntoHoliness I agree that the details needs to be known and explained. And I will be praying for Marcus that he has the courage to search the scriptures for understanding regarding his marital situation. It is the business of the church we all wanna see all of us grow. And sexual immorality is such a painful tricky thing but we all as believers of Christ should pray for the Lord to give us his guidance on how we should move and not allow us to be guided by our emotions & our flesh.
But on the scripture reference I just wanted to say a couple of things:
1st timothy 3:2-5 and Titus 1:5-7 were expectations for certain leaders of the church But it doesn't say that if you fall short... you are to be fired and released and never to become one again. I mean if a church (the building) feels lead to let somebody go due to these expectations not being met that is their business. But scripture doesn't say what consequences a person deserves. The ones you listed just shows instructions and I guess one that is important is a church has no business allowing a new convert to be a pastor... because they will be conceited and most likely become an false pastor/Teacher. Now anyone that breaks these expectations without repentance could also risk becoming a false pastor but I would think that if a pastor were to break one of these expectations... he/she should repent and he/she should confess his/her sins to others no matter the consequence so he/she can have healing if a church decides to disregard a pastors repentance... when we all fall short I question that church. Brcause his repentance can lead others to reach repentance. Right now church's think firing a pastor that sins is the way to go. But it's teaching people to keep their sins to themselves and to suppress them until they are caught rather than encouraging that they confess and encourage them to repent and allowing them to have an opportunity to redeem themselves instead of "firing them" it sends a harsh message in contradiction to what Jesus taught us.
Then as far as the other scriptures 1st cor 5:9-10 & mark 10:10-12... we don't know the state of his marriage.
Now I don't work in a church the building but prior to me understanding marriage him and I made a marriage covenant by praying to God as the center of our union. However I was a virgin and he was not. But because my family was prejudice towards him and hated him for discriminatory reasons I allowed my emotions to cloud a lot of my judgement on what to do. Long story short I left him after we made that covenant and after I truly believed he was the person God called me to be with. But I left him convinced my family was right about him and my life fell apart. I went down a dowanward spiral. Entertained adultery, fornication and I just felt depressed and broken. Then in supplication and in repentance... I cried out to God apologizing and asking for forgiveness. But I still battled heavy with sexual immorality and I didn't have any sort of guidance on what to do because my mother is my dad's second wife and his first wife was still alive... and my dad is currently married to his 3rd wife both past spouses still alive. And my mom was with others prior to my dad (my older brother had a different father) so obviously sexual immorality runs in the fam and I'm ashamed. But again I had no guidance and no understanding. And the church certainly didn't help cuz they married whoever wanted to be. They didn't have wisdom to say who they will and will not marry so all of it was confusing for me.
One day my sister asked me to do a marriage Bible study surrounding the topic of whats Gods expectations of marriage. I was pregnant and my dad was about to get married to his 3rd wife at the time. It took about 6 months to complete. The intent was to tell my father of his speck with the marriage thing... only God revealed the log in my own eye about it. I realized that I was an adulterer.... and I realized that my marriage may have been legal with this man but he was not my husband. Even if on paper said something different.
After I realized my sins...I wanted to desperately repent. But I didn't know how to change course. I felt like I was already tangled into the web and their was no getting out of it. My family suggested I stay with the man I had a child with but it didn't feel right.
I prayed long and hard. Fasted, ect... but to get to the point of my testimony... me being with the man I legally married was never the husband God gave me. So technically if I divorced him... it didn't exist in the eyes of God because he never recognized the union. It was me legalizing my fornication. Nothing more. So if I divorced my fornication... I saw it as me repenting and cutting it off so I don't repeatedly sleep with somebody I had no business being with. Due to me making a wrong choice... I was left to battle sexual immorality.
Paul urged for young widows to get married because a.) Their spouse died so they are the only ones that can be in a rightful spiritual marriage..and get remarried and still be okay in the eyes of God. But he said "young widows" because he knows that sexual immorality could sneak up on them. For the rest of us who had fornicated or whatever the case... we have to bring our issues to God and ask God to untangle our web of Sins.
My true husband miraculously hit me up again and showed back up in my life and I was transparent with my legal husband.... and asked for a divorce and he was aware of my decision. He released me of our marital bind. Even though after he realized later he was angry and wanted to pursue me back in the same way Pharoah went after the isralites after he agreed to let his people go. But my first son's father never pursued me from the beginning in the right way. Our entire relationship was built on lies, deception, just sin. It wasn't right. And unfortunately... because I Entertained sexual immorality at all I'm always gonna have this stain... or a thorn as Paul preaches where their will always be people that will feel uncomfortable around me or just not trusting of me and a lack of respect and my reputation may have been stained too but they have to understand the dynamic of my situation... I was born into it, I was molested as a child, and I didn't have people to properly teach me these things...
So yes. I legally divorced my 1st legal husband because I wanted to show God my repentance. But I understand others may disagree and I'm open to hearing any counsel because what's more important to me is simply doing what I can to please God. That's it. Once I'm aware of the fact I'm in sin...I want nothing more than to repent. I think we all need to pray for the Lord to help us understand how show God proper repentance when we've entertained sexual immorality. When he said neither the sexual immoral, ect will enter the kingdom of heaven... I believe it is those that are unrepentant and continue to live those lifestyles. But pray for us who have . Because we were mistaught but some of us do want to correct our wrongs!
Ruslan always rubbed me the wrong way. I’m satisfied to know that was my discernment speaking
Me as well. Thank God for the discernment he gave me.
on the edge trying to watch this, few minutes later I now can see the fruit... "not okay for you to live like the rest of the world: people difficult the simply explanation of this message.
Love wins every time although we urge to get it right most of the time!
Division causes destruction among brethren in the body of Christ. U both know this and I love u both
You keep listening to the Father, His sheep know His voice.....thank you Marcus
Facts 💯
We gotta remember that Satan and his demons can get at us through anyone who isn't fully committed to Christ !
@@lovelyjanecohen2637 Marcus is not fully for Christ, that’s a fact. Just because he knows some truth, he isn’t necessarily a sheep. I assume that’s what you meant?
Was that the same voice that told Marcus Trump was winning the 2020 election? Even men of God aren’t perfect, both Ruslan and Marcus aren’t perfect it doesn’t mean one is more of a man of God than the other
@@LovelovelyJesus amen
The fact that he couldn’t say you were his brother in Christ just because he doesn’t agree with you, yet can answer yes in 2 seconds for someone else, says it all. That don’t sit right with me. A lot of his videos don’t sit right with me but the way he was speaking to you really wasn’t right.
I felt the same way. It’s clear Marcus has God with him and if he can’t recognize him as a brother in Christ then something is wrong there.
Exactly!!!!! He didn't wanna call him a brother in Christ 🤣 because he's a politician.
Yes. Marcus is trying too hard for unity. Ruslan doesn't even believe he's a brother in Christ. At that point leave him alone all together
Ruslan is human! He is going to make mistakes but at the end of the day we still have to learn to be teachable this is an opportunity to be more humble and understanding. I truly believe that both parties could have handled the situation differently! You always have to be teachable in this life !
@@cocochanelwhite1450 yes we all fall short and we are all human, but clearly God is with Marcus. Like clearly. Anyone with eyes can see hes blessed and see his passion for Christ. Not being able to call him his brother in Christ was a clear sign where Ruslans heart is.
It’s good that there was a mediator in this conversation.
Pastor Markus you have so much good points in this video I really love watching your videos please keep it up and I would love to meet you some day . I'm from South Africa,Cape Town
Brother Marcus please stay encouraged! You are on the frontlines in the Kingdom, and I appreciate all you do for the body of Christ. You are a brother for sure, thank you for serving The Lord 🙏🏾
Proverbs 16:7 Proverbs 18:18 Proverbs 19:17 Proverbs 20:28 Proverbs 25:25 1 Samuel 12:22-24
This was personal to Ruslan and straight up carnal. He was simply participating to defend himself, not to get an understanding and gain a brother. God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in Spirit and Truth. Truth should be the overall goal.
💯💯 truth
Before Christ I practiced black magic for about 7 years almost every single day. Before we call a spirit, we would normally drink lots of alcohol and play very specific music to set the stage and the alcohol to get the mind ready for a full manifestation. And of course sacrifices base on the demand.
I don’t know you guys but Marcus, you do have a valid point whether or not you delivered the message properly only the Spirit of God knows.
I will be praying for you bcz God has called you to be bold and that position comes with lots of pain.
Ruslan, a Christian do not get a demon bcz the Spirit of God couldn’t protect them, they rather perish for lack of knowledge. Again I don’t know you but it sounds like you are trusted with a ministry, just please avoid useless fights.
May God continue to use both of you abundantly for His Namesake
We can be brothers in Christ and disagree on some issues, Marcus, you and Ruslan have inspired so many amazing conversations within ministry circles I’m in. The smallest degrees of difference has caused so much division within the body of Christ. I appreciate you guys talking through your differences, I love the conversation.
I just gained a lot of respect for you Marcus! Really appreciate your music too!
2 Timothy 2:23-24
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil,
Me too!
When it becomes about ego and who’s right, who’s wrong, instead of focusing on the word. I pray for the both of you.
One brother did focus on the word though 🤔
It was getting real emotional and at times about ego at the end. I’m glad it seemed like Jesus got back into the conversation before the wrap up and it didn’t get real bad
To me, Ruslan was more worried about proving Marcus wrong, than actually understanding what he meant. I feel Marcus had good intentions. They have a huge following, and people are being fooled thinking there's nothing wrong with this worldly stuff.
I cannot acknowledge Ruslan as a leader in the body of Christ. He has just as much to learn as I do.
I love this particular show and it's needed even in the church because if you don't believe everything our pastor teach you are made to feel like a outsider even if you leave the church for whatever reason
Marcus you were not the only one that gave Maverick City a warning from God. Don’t get upset, the truth hurts and they devil is mad. I have been following you for a long time and I admire you for being a REAL soldier for God. Keep doing God’s work because He is proud of you. We’re in the season where the fake is being exposed. Keep teaching because I know you’re real!
True, the Lord led me to send a word of warning to another member. I don't have a platform, but I do hear from the Holy Spirit and I was obedient.
"People who have discernment they know."
- Marcus Rogers 💯
Facts!
The Spirit doesn't make people psychic, there's no way ruslan could of known marcus's divorces were biblically justified without having known him personally and asking him specifically about those issues.
Come on. There are a lot of professing Christians out there, a LOT in main stream circles, who are still prophesying trump is gonna get re elected and idolizing the guy. One dude who many people believe is a true prophet of God made a video claiming "Trump will reclaim his throne!" To say that people who have the Spirit of God can not be deceived or mislead is a gross misinterpretation of Scripture and the very type of theology that leads people to follow men instead of Christ.
facts!
@@billybanks8140 I agree it’s sick how they listen more to a man (who fails) instead of God, smells like idolatry
The Holy Spirit leads and guides you into all Truth. I used to watch new age videos on chakras, meditations etc. and mix it with my faith and think it's okay but the Holy Spirit lead me out of that and is still guiding me because I still have struggles. But I see progress in my life and faith.
Let the Holy spirit lead you because it's not necessary to fight for your reputation for God fights our battles. Thank you Marcus for defending the Word and not constantly referring to yourself. All glory to God, thank you Jesus
Just came across this video. You owned the conversation! Good work. I think Ruslan is still a baby Christian like me. The truth just sounds different🙏🏼
Marcus spitting out BIBLE faster than the speed of light 🔥🔥🔥
He was spitting scriptures, but some were out of context..
We shoukd pray for both of them,because this is foolish and our focus shoukd be Jesus Christ.
@@TonyaA7 I’ve actually read those scriptures they were not out of context read them in full before saying this
@@TheGodlyGamerMugen yes he was taking scripture out of context. It was cringe when he brought up hebrews.... Marcus doesn't even know the actual definition of lukewarm.
@@jblaze9246 and he doesn't know the definition of ADULTERY
The spirit of the “ interruptor” I can’t stand when people do this. They interrupt to stop the truth. I see it clearly. I had discernment when I watched Ruslan. Now I know why. The accuser of the brethren. Crafty in setting snares
I saw it clearly!!!!
I told someone that he's as slippery as an eel. I can see it as plain as the nose on your face. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. He reminds me of the pied piper, looks innocent but very deadly.
Same! 😭 as much as I like Ruslans personality he hasn’t had the heart knowledge of Jesus that Marcus has.
Ruslan says, "give me one bible verse that says you can get a demon thru music!" OMGOSH...THIS shows the MILK behind Ruslan's ears.
Wow, I just listened some of this discussion, what level of ignorance and lack of revelation of the word of God, definitely it makes a difference to do this walk when Holy Spirit show you secrets, gave you divine instructions, it is an amazing life and having the baptism of The Holy Spirit makes a great different
I appreciate your standing for truth Marcus
I think the most off putting thing that hurt my heart about this, was I don’t think a Christian’s past should disqualify them from correcting another brother.( in regards to ruslans questions about your past) We’re all sinners. But by grace of God, and turning from our faults to him, we can grow in spiritual maturity. I just recently started watching your channel Marcus and God bless you in your walk. You’ve corrected me in ways I was oblivious to for a while. Thanks for standing bold. You cite the word of God, you don’t cite the worlds opinion. It’s a breath of fresh air to listen to a theologically sound man of God teach.
Agree!!!!
You clearly misunderstood Ruslans argument if you think he was saying based on someones messy past, a professing christian is disqualified from correcting
He was speaking about being a pastor based on the teaching in 1st Timothy. Which has stipulations.... are we trying to re write the Bible?
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My brothers in Christ. There’s coming a time where these debates will be the least of our worries. We will be persecuted as a body. And just being able to communicate with those that share our faith will be a blessing. We won’t care about the details. Keep sharing the Gospel. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I agree, this debate is unnecessary.
I agree 100%
I agree
Well said and amen!
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I wanted to turn from this so badly, but I knew that God brought my attention to this video because he wants me to see That you use the word of God to get you through all situations just as you did. Now I’m not defending you because I like you as a pastor, but it just funny to me how even the guy that was on the video with him, couldn’t even admit when Ruslan was wrong, and by me following truth is what led me to follow you ministry in the first place, so God bless you. You taught me a lot in this video, so no matter what the word of God be your defense and stay godly stay humble, and the Holy Spirit is gonna lead you through everything so I appreciate you even though this video got under my skin, I’m trying my best to watch it to the end, so thank you brother
Outstanding job Marcus if it's not their way it's no way they are prideful they don't see themselves at all.
Secular music is 100% demonic
This guy was getting on his phone when Marcus was speaking, looking around, “listening” but really just thinking of his next response or question. This guy is full of pride, and he seems more concerned with trapping Marcus rather than having an actual discussion that seeks truth. This is why I like Marcus. He seeks truth, god given truth, and that’s it. That’s what we need. Not more rhetoric and judgement. Pride comes before fall.
Agree! He was too excited when he thought he had caught Marcus using a word that wasn't Biblical. In my opinion, he was flat out rude the majority of the time.
Glad to see someone else caught that.
AMEN N AMEN...
The following is a boon buff and boost to your shield of faith to carry with you on your journey, whether you be in the Holy City, or in the wilderness.
Psalm 113:3 Psalm 133 Proverbs 16:7 Proverbs 18:18 Proverbs 19:17 Proverbs 20:28 Proverbs 25:25 1 Samuel 12:22-24 Joshua 23:10 Micah 4:13 Micah 5:15 Isaiah 49:5 Obadiah
WHEN GOD IS WITH YOU, YOU CAN DRIVE OUT 1000 ENEMIES ON YOUR OWN.
Yes full of pride and triggered he has no patience to absorb
Bro Marcus, truth is HARD for MOST people - even most Christians to take.
FACTS over FEELINGS!!! Thank you Marcus.
From the moment Ruslan started speaking, I felt stressed and anxious. He needs to heal. Prayers lifted for all involved.
Yooo me too like rn I'm still watching up
Watching it*
It’s prolly why I feel this conversation is irrelevant
@@tamishawestbrooks8462 yeah cause Ruslan keep bring it back to the convo talking about him being fake that's not important everytime Marcus brings up the bible an point out scriptures they wanna go back to a irrelevant convo about being fake they wasn't trying to hear Marcus out so it made me annoyed also an Ruslan speaking had me annoyed especially when he laughs because he is wrong knowing nothing is funny
Lol nah .
I am confused by why Ruslan didn't want to pray before the conversation ... I cant take anything seriously now. This conversation should not have moved forward without praying in unity right there.
That was just Marcus’ religious spirit coming out
Ruslan felt that conviction , he was bout to cry . Marcus kept feeding him scripture🤧❤🔥💯💥💣🙏💪✍
These guys are soft! Marcus is a good example of someone that truly has the holy spirit