Living my whole life rather far up north on the globe, I got some experience of cars in cold climate. To avoid damaging the rubber, I suggest that you always lift the viper blades from the windscreen when parking the car.
Notice that if you put the car in normal or sport it heats up twice as quickly! In Eco it limits the power. You can change it in EV settings to get max power in all modes. My girlfriend has noticed that if you put the car in Drive it also seems to get a little extra heat. (You need it in -25C)
Good points thanks! The drive mode here was Normal but with Eco heating in the setup, and I was in Park. I’ll have to try the other settings you suggest :)
...and to complement this you can leave the car plugged in (with Acc on, POWER pressed twice) to avoid the range loss but you wouldn't see the climate draw from the battery which is what I assume you wanted to show. Great video and keep em coming in the New Year.
@@iancox6341 not worked it out yet. I was doing 200 to 500 mile journeys in one hit so was around 55mpg after one charge in the morning. That of course is balanced out by shorter journeys on electric.
Just got my Ioniq for Christmas. Finished work at 0100 to find the car seriously iced up, very very impressed with how quickly it cleared, would have been 15 minutes worth of scaping in my old car!
Compared to my old vw my phev ioniq takes longer to defrost (noheated screen) but seats are way better heating back too. The one downside of the phev is I canr find a keep heat on while charging at services as it uses engine. I find a blanket works well!
@@ZeroTailpipe two other differences..as it use ice to make heat you can't schedule a warm up/ preheat. And because it has a foot operated parking brake it does not have full stop start cruise control. Seems an odd emission this second one.
I had the hybrid on a long test. Mpg amazing. Steering wheel material horrid, drive boring. Interior a step back from the i40. That's what a walked away thinking. Also a foot hand break! I did love my first encounter of cooled seats. Though the best place to be in cold weather, is in bed.
@@ZeroTailpipe what do you think of the steering wheel material? I really hated it. It was the main thing that put me off the car. I thought it felt like an English speaking guy called an Chinese guy and discribes what leather felt like, and this it what Hyundai received in the post. Although Hyundai isn't the only one with a bad feeing wheel, I also tested the Rav4h and that too had a strange feel. Not adls bad as the ioniq bit still not great. I don't mind a faux leather wheel, I just got a Lean ST with faux leather (or plether), I think it's fake, as it doent feel like cars of old, but it didn't put me off the car. One massive plus to the ioniq hybrid was its mentally epic mpg. The guy said it will do 65mpg in town all day long. I thought it was the usual bs. I had it for two hours, within ten mins I was doing 69mpg.so I spent the rest of it trying my best to kill the mpg score. Iirc after two hours of driving it like a rentel car, it was at 58. The RAV4h gets 46mpg in comparison, which is also good for its size. Given its set up to not tempt to to go fast I could see that doing over 65mpg all day long. Which is very food indeed. (my Leon gets 30 😳).
Update: car now has Bluelink app for remote defrosting. Edit: Oops could have sworn you said it was a 38kWh which *does* have Bluelink available, not sure about the 28kWh which I see this is by the bronze accents inside. 👍
The following applies to almost all cars: We've always used warm water to defrost windscreens and lights quickly. While neighbours are still scraping away and running their heaters, I'd be away within 2 or 3 minutes of going out to the car. Caution!: Never use hot water on cold glass, just use hand warm (or in really cold weather, tepid) water. If you think there is a danger of cracking windscreens, all that I can say is, use common sense, as above. And in almost 40 years of using water to remove windscreen ice, in temperatures sometimes down to below -10°, I've never damaged anything. A hot airstream coming from heaters onto the inside of cold glass probably induces much more thermal stress than does warm water.
I really envy you. My Ioniq PHEV while driving fully electric in the summer, starts the engine when it's cold simply to heat the interior and produce some electricity to charge the battery as a side effect. In the summer I commute to and from work purely electric, but in the winter the car consumes around 3.5l fuel per 100km on average. (I could have bought the EV, but the charging situation was unclear at that time).
Great channel, interesting to watch. I live in Norway, and my Ionig use a heat pump, does your car have one? It's been -12 to -20 Celsius in december and january, and the heating in my Ioniq has been superb. Running with 22 degrees inside the car, the temperature has been level during all my commute. I know some Leaf drivers, and it's clear that the Ioniq battery heating/cooling system makes it much better then Leaf in the cold. In my diesel Mondeo with Webasto heater, it can not maintain the temperature inside the car when driving downhill. To me the time as a fossile driver, are in the past.
I live in Norway too and this will be my first winter with my ioniq. I didnt undertsand when you mentioned the heat pump. Could you explain it dor me please.
Interesting no app, here in Australia newly released 2019 Ioniq has app support. Hyundai need to pull power from charger when preheating/cooling instead of main battery while plugged in, suspect only a software update needed to fix that.
Battery preheating is worth doing for max range. Long tailpipe in UK is fossil gas burning and sadly soon fracking. 2016 UK brunt 40% more imported fossil gas for electricity from Qatar v 2015
Too bad it doesn't have an app. Would have been nice to order my car to defrost from my phone while I'm preparing my sandwiches. On the other hand, what's that you say about a schedule? I'm very predictable when it comes to my weekday morning habits. Can I have it defrosted and ready to go every morning at 8 given that it's plugged in? That would be handy.
Yes you can. The previous owner had a schedule set with different times for weekdays setting off and returning and weekend times. I’ve not tried it yet :)
I love the scheduled departure times in my i3. I expect the Ioniq is the same in that it'll work out how long before you head off to start warming up (or cooling down) so everything is just ready when you step out of the house. Perfect for when you didn't even notice all the cars are iced up and feeling smug as you drive past everyone scraping their windscreens!
Depends on how cold. I’d guess-timate that dropping from 18-20C summer temps to 3-5C winter ones knocks 20-25% off the range (160 miles summer predicted max range down to 130 miles winter). Lots of variables affecting it though... how much heat used, battery cold soaked or warm starting out, car preheated or not etc etc
Interesting to see how the Ioniq will perform at -20℃ and below. The heat pump will defenetely be useless, but if there is no PTC how does it heat the cabin? Hmmm...
The app is good but the scheduler is better my opinion only, for Monday to Friday driving there's nothing to remember. I live in Canada and my Soul EV is 70 seconds(-5 C) to actually feel heat coming out, that's about 3-4 orders of magnitude faster than any Gas car I have been in. This is only that slow because the heat exchanger takes that long to build up a decent charge of heat. The heat exchanger is 4 times more efficient than a resistive heater like in the Chevy Bolt which for lack of a better description is a submerged toaster and you can feel heat in about 55 seconds. With that said the range on your GOM is a bit skewed, because you are not going anywhere but running the heat at full blast at the same time. I would be surprised if it used a kwh or 4-5 miles. I love the Hyundai/KIA Infotainment system but it is very pessimistic about energy usage and range prediction, I'm thinking that's why the Guess O Meter is so aptly named.
I use the scheduler on the leaf, but I schedule it from the app. Mainly because I don’t have a predictable driving schedule, but usually I know the day before when I’ll be leaving to I schedule it from the app
Especally in the radar stuff aswell. Seems an oversight. There needs to be an defrost button, that kicks it all in. A press and forget type setup. Once you drive off that's its Q to disengage.i should patent that.
I have got a Hyundai Ioniq now for 2 weeks. My range is only 110miles with 100% loaded. Could you make a Video how do setup and drive your car to get a better range please?
Mine was the same while it adjusted to my driving style. It will depend too on temperature, elevation etc. I’m typically in Normal mode, Regen Level 3, Eco climate, air con at 20C if needed... If I can find a way to make it interesting, I’ll happily do a video about it :)
Did you ever experience thick frosting of the windscreen inside the vehicle Once the heat came to the screen from the vents the amount of water was horrendous I didn't fancy spraying de- icer inside due to the strong fumes bad for your elf
I think if it’s on Auto it may not do this… I can’t remember but I certainly ran it when the inside of the screen was frozen too… It may have needed a wipe down…
@@ZeroTailpipe thank you for your comment What is happening about your electric driving these cold days as a bike is not the most comfortable transport in winter months
Car cover solves all these problems. @~£50 It works best. In Canada @ -2C we are in T shirt and jeans. @ -2F we are in T shirt and jeans with a jacket on which we take off before getting in the car. Or suit or what you work in...
Thanks. Good question. I might do a video on that. I’ve had warnings that the smart cruise control radar a few times. Some CCS rapid charges have not worked. Some slow chargers too (that used to work on our old LEAF). And I’ve almost been locked out of the car once when the locks were cold (after a few days of snow/ice). The auto wipers are not great too... I think that’s about it :)
Issue here is UK cars rarely fitted with preheaters unlike Scandinavian, Canadian and Russian ones. DEFA electric diesel preheater does same job and means less pollution and higher MPG. Once running, less thermodynamic ally efficient petrol engines give best heat overall.
Thanks for next great video about Ioniq Electric in bad weather condition :) (Please join to my Polish group about Hyundai Ioniq on facebook - Hyundai Ioniq Polska)
Living my whole life rather far up north on the globe, I got some experience of cars in cold climate. To avoid damaging the rubber, I suggest that you always lift the viper blades from the windscreen when parking the car.
Great tip, thanks :)
Notice that if you put the car in normal or sport it heats up twice as quickly! In Eco it limits the power. You can change it in EV settings to get max power in all modes. My girlfriend has noticed that if you put the car in Drive it also seems to get a little extra heat. (You need it in -25C)
Good points thanks! The drive mode here was Normal but with Eco heating in the setup, and I was in Park. I’ll have to try the other settings you suggest :)
I can’t wait to see how the Canadian winter could affect the battery of my ioniq!
Cool. Literally ;)
...and to complement this you can leave the car plugged in (with Acc on, POWER pressed twice) to avoid the range loss but you wouldn't see the climate draw from the battery which is what I assume you wanted to show. Great video and keep em coming in the New Year.
Good point, yes, thanks :)
Have done 3000 miles In 4 weeks in the phev ioniq and love it
How much did you spend on petrol (3000 miles) ?
@@iancox6341 not worked it out yet. I was doing 200 to 500 mile journeys in one hit so was around 55mpg after one charge in the morning. That of course is balanced out by shorter journeys on electric.
Just got my Ioniq for Christmas. Finished work at 0100 to find the car seriously iced up, very very impressed with how quickly it cleared, would have been 15 minutes worth of scaping in my old car!
Great :)
Its like some Americans with their heated driveways! Very energy wasteful.
@@TekAutomatica they do what?!?! :O
@@MichaelGomesPly www.askthebuilder.com/heated-driveway-cost/
But if course it's electric so no planet was harmed in the heating of this driveway right?!
Compared to my old vw my phev ioniq takes longer to defrost (noheated screen) but seats are way better heating back too. The one downside of the phev is I canr find a keep heat on while charging at services as it uses engine. I find a blanket works well!
Interesting differences there for the PHEV, thanks :)
@@ZeroTailpipe two other differences..as it use ice to make heat you can't schedule a warm up/ preheat. And because it has a foot operated parking brake it does not have full stop start cruise control. Seems an odd emission this second one.
Good to know this as I've always wondered how long it takes a electric car to heat the cabin up and defrost.
Thanks. I should have put in the video too that this probably used around 0.6 kWh or 2% of the battery... possibly a bit more...
I had the hybrid on a long test. Mpg amazing. Steering wheel material horrid, drive boring. Interior a step back from the i40.
That's what a walked away thinking. Also a foot hand break!
I did love my first encounter of cooled seats.
Though the best place to be in cold weather, is in bed.
Thanks for sharing. ... and on the last point, bed, definitely ;)
@@ZeroTailpipe what do you think of the steering wheel material?
I really hated it. It was the main thing that put me off the car. I thought it felt like an English speaking guy called an Chinese guy and discribes what leather felt like, and this it what Hyundai received in the post.
Although Hyundai isn't the only one with a bad feeing wheel, I also tested the Rav4h and that too had a strange feel. Not adls bad as the ioniq bit still not great.
I don't mind a faux leather wheel, I just got a Lean ST with faux leather (or plether), I think it's fake, as it doent feel like cars of old, but it didn't put me off the car.
One massive plus to the ioniq hybrid was its mentally epic mpg. The guy said it will do 65mpg in town all day long. I thought it was the usual bs. I had it for two hours, within ten mins I was doing 69mpg.so I spent the rest of it trying my best to kill the mpg score. Iirc after two hours of driving it like a rentel car, it was at 58. The RAV4h gets 46mpg in comparison, which is also good for its size.
Given its set up to not tempt to to go fast I could see that doing over 65mpg all day long. Which is very food indeed. (my Leon gets 30 😳).
Update: car now has Bluelink app for remote defrosting. Edit: Oops could have sworn you said it was a 38kWh which *does* have Bluelink available, not sure about the 28kWh which I see this is by the bronze accents inside. 👍
Happy New Year to you and your family from Norway!!....
Thanks. And to you too :)
Does your IONIQ reset the ECO settings after a carwash?
Great video as always :)
Thanks :)
The following applies to almost all cars: We've always used warm water to defrost windscreens and lights quickly. While neighbours are still scraping away and running their heaters, I'd be away within 2 or 3 minutes of going out to the car.
Caution!: Never use hot water on cold glass, just use hand warm (or in really cold weather, tepid) water.
If you think there is a danger of cracking windscreens, all that I can say is, use common sense, as above. And in almost 40 years of using water to remove windscreen ice, in temperatures sometimes down to below -10°, I've never damaged anything. A hot airstream coming from heaters onto the inside of cold glass probably induces much more thermal stress than does warm water.
Good tip thanks :)
I really envy you. My Ioniq PHEV while driving fully electric in the summer, starts the engine when it's cold simply to heat the interior and produce some electricity to charge the battery as a side effect. In the summer I commute to and from work purely electric, but in the winter the car consumes around 3.5l fuel per 100km on average. (I could have bought the EV, but the charging situation was unclear at that time).
Thanks for sharing. The PHEV is really interesting. I’m going to have to test one out in 2019, I think :)
Well, it has the strongest engine combo among the three versions with 140hps as far as I know, but your choice with the EV is the best.
Great channel, interesting to watch. I live in Norway, and my Ionig use a heat pump, does your car have one? It's been -12 to -20 Celsius in december and january, and the heating in my Ioniq has been superb. Running with 22 degrees inside the car, the temperature has been level during all my commute.
I know some Leaf drivers, and it's clear that the Ioniq battery heating/cooling system makes it much better then Leaf in the cold.
In my diesel Mondeo with Webasto heater, it can not maintain the temperature inside the car when driving downhill. To me the time as a fossile driver, are in the past.
Thanks. The heater/AC is very good, I agree :)
I live in Norway too and this will be my first winter with my ioniq. I didnt undertsand when you mentioned the heat pump. Could you explain it dor me please.
Great to know thank You
-2 is not a challenge at all. Try Canadian winters at -20 to -30C. 200Wh/km if you're lucky according to a few videos.
Interesting no app, here in Australia newly released 2019 Ioniq has app support. Hyundai need to pull power from charger when preheating/cooling instead of main battery while plugged in, suspect only a software update needed to fix that.
Only 4 mn! It's a nice performance!
Yes :)
Battery preheating is worth doing for max range. Long tailpipe in UK is fossil gas burning and sadly soon fracking. 2016 UK brunt 40% more imported fossil gas for electricity from Qatar v 2015
Too bad it doesn't have an app. Would have been nice to order my car to defrost from my phone while I'm preparing my sandwiches.
On the other hand, what's that you say about a schedule? I'm very predictable when it comes to my weekday morning habits. Can I have it defrosted and ready to go every morning at 8 given that it's plugged in? That would be handy.
Yes you can. The previous owner had a schedule set with different times for weekdays setting off and returning and weekend times. I’ve not tried it yet :)
I love the scheduled departure times in my i3. I expect the Ioniq is the same in that it'll work out how long before you head off to start warming up (or cooling down) so everything is just ready when you step out of the house. Perfect for when you didn't even notice all the cars are iced up and feeling smug as you drive past everyone scraping their windscreens!
@@ZeroTailpipe Cool! ua-cam.com/video/l3MJMmjxRRE/v-deo.html
in the US we have BlueLink. I use it to do exactly what you describe.
Sehr gut gemacht
I'm interested to know how much the cold weather cuts the battery life and hence range?
Depends on how cold. I’d guess-timate that dropping from 18-20C summer temps to 3-5C winter ones knocks 20-25% off the range (160 miles summer predicted max range down to 130 miles winter). Lots of variables affecting it though... how much heat used, battery cold soaked or warm starting out, car preheated or not etc etc
Thanks for the info. :)
Interesting to see how the Ioniq will perform at -20℃ and below. The heat pump will defenetely be useless, but if there is no PTC how does it heat the cabin? Hmmm...
Good question... I haven’t experienced it much below about -7C here... perhaps -10C once...
My main problem is the car keeps fogging up as I like to leave the heating ac off to get high mpg scores lol. Phev downside
The app is good but the scheduler is better my opinion only, for Monday to Friday driving there's nothing to remember. I live in Canada and my Soul EV is 70 seconds(-5 C) to actually feel heat coming out, that's about 3-4 orders of magnitude faster than any Gas car I have been in. This is only that slow because the heat exchanger takes that long to build up a decent charge of heat. The heat exchanger is 4 times more efficient than a resistive heater like in the Chevy Bolt which for lack of a better description is a submerged toaster and you can feel heat in about 55 seconds. With that said the range on your GOM is a bit skewed, because you are not going anywhere but running the heat at full blast at the same time. I would be surprised if it used a kwh or 4-5 miles. I love the Hyundai/KIA Infotainment system but it is very pessimistic about energy usage and range prediction, I'm thinking that's why the Guess O Meter is so aptly named.
Useful info thanks :)
I use the scheduler on the leaf, but I schedule it from the app. Mainly because I don’t have a predictable driving schedule, but usually I know the day before when I’ll be leaving to I schedule it from the app
Interesting vid :) not had issue with bmw i3 and heating maybe older models anyway keep up great vids
Thanks :) (We has tested an older Rex i3... not sure if some don’t have a heat pump...?)
It’s surprising they didn’t put heated elements onto the lights, need to see if my 30kw leaf has those.
Agreed
Especally in the radar stuff aswell. Seems an oversight.
There needs to be an defrost button, that kicks it all in. A press and forget type setup. Once you drive off that's its Q to disengage.i should patent that.
I have got a Hyundai Ioniq now for 2 weeks. My range is only 110miles with 100% loaded. Could you make a Video how do setup and drive your car to get a better range please?
Mine was the same while it adjusted to my driving style. It will depend too on temperature, elevation etc. I’m typically in Normal mode, Regen Level 3, Eco climate, air con at 20C if needed... If I can find a way to make it interesting, I’ll happily do a video about it :)
On mine I have it set to normal, 0 regen, eco AC. Auto temp set to 19 and make use of heated seats and wheel. Lowest so far this winter 129 miles
Did you ever experience thick frosting of the windscreen inside the vehicle
Once the heat came to the screen from the vents the amount of water was horrendous
I didn't fancy spraying de- icer inside due to the strong fumes bad for your elf
I think if it’s on Auto it may not do this… I can’t remember but I certainly ran it when the inside of the screen was frozen too… It may have needed a wipe down…
@@ZeroTailpipe thank you for your comment
What is happening about your electric driving these cold days as a bike is not the most comfortable transport in winter months
@@michaelbruton3537 I’m cycling around in the cold, basically… Nor ideal, but it’s fine :)
Is the app very new? Mine has it.
I don’t have an app for my U.K. 2016 IONIQ. Do you have an app? Which country? Model year of your car? Intriguing! :)
-2 ????? I started at the "first key "at -30 a honda civic in nord Romania :))))
-30... that’s cold ;)
Do anyone know if this car uses a heat pump or an electric heat source??
Heat pump in the Electric. Not sure about the hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions...
@@ZeroTailpipe Thanks
Car cover solves all these problems. @~£50 It works best. In Canada @ -2C we are in T shirt and jeans. @ -2F we are in T shirt and jeans with a jacket on which we take off before getting in the car. Or suit or what you work in...
:)
Hmm any info on battery degradation?
No easy way to find out, sadly...
Do you have any problem with the car.
Thanks. Good question. I might do a video on that. I’ve had warnings that the smart cruise control radar a few times. Some CCS rapid charges have not worked. Some slow chargers too (that used to work on our old LEAF). And I’ve almost been locked out of the car once when the locks were cold (after a few days of snow/ice). The auto wipers are not great too... I think that’s about it :)
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Where are you? Looks like North pole.
:) No match for the conditions earlier in the year from the snow storm though: m.ua-cam.com/video/2CuOEL-QzWA/v-deo.html
Issue here is UK cars rarely fitted with preheaters unlike Scandinavian, Canadian and Russian ones. DEFA electric diesel preheater does same job and means less pollution and higher MPG. Once running, less thermodynamic ally efficient petrol engines give best heat overall.
Thanks for next great video about Ioniq Electric in bad weather condition :) (Please join to my Polish group about Hyundai Ioniq on facebook - Hyundai Ioniq Polska)
Thanks :)