Drill through anything (conductive) with Electrical Discharge Machining

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  • Опубліковано 10 бер 2019
  • I show how to build an EDM drilling machine, describe how it works, and where to buy parts.
    Source for the arc generator: baxedm.com/
    BaxEDM UA-cam channel: / @baxedm9806
    I used the Kflop, Kanalog, and Kstep from dynomotion.com/
    OpenBuilds CNC machine: openbuildspartstore.com/openb...
    EDM hollow drill rods: www.ebay.com/itm/EDM-WIRE-MAC...
    EDM drill head: www.aliexpress.com/item/EDM-R...
    EDM drill head seals: www.aliexpress.com/item/Rubbe...
    Airless paint sprayer: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
    Water filter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
    Cartridges are cheap, similar to this: www.amazon.com/dp/B01FKNK69G/
    / appliedscience
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  • @theCodyReeder
    @theCodyReeder 5 років тому +3610

    Now that is cool.

    • @danyk7879
      @danyk7879 5 років тому +38

      Cody'sLab i am ready for ur new content

    • @1320crusier
      @1320crusier 5 років тому +64

      ...youre pretty much everywhere on YT that has something neat..

    • @baxedm9806
      @baxedm9806 5 років тому +15

      Hi Cody, if you are interested in an Arc generator, I have a good deal for you. See my contact details on my website baxedm.com

    • @Molb0rg
      @Molb0rg 5 років тому +9

      @@baxedm9806 man is there any chance for it to be cheaper than 3k? maybe some reduced in capabilities thing, or whatever ...

    • @theCodyReeder
      @theCodyReeder 5 років тому +127

      Dany K
      UA-cam has demonetized my latest video because I use the words “ball” and “shoot”. I’m pissed off about it and am trying to contact an actual person to fix before I publish.

  • @TrasteIAm
    @TrasteIAm 5 років тому +4832

    Ben's wife: "Honey why is the sauce pan leaking?"
    There is now a tiny hole in every conductive thing in Ben's home.

    • @palebluedot7435
      @palebluedot7435 5 років тому +172

      Why is the dog leaking ?

    • @odw32
      @odw32 5 років тому +130

      Yeah every time I see his desk full of samples I imagine he goes around town covering all the street signs with electroluminescent paint, screen printing graffiti onto sidewalks, bending everyone's garden fences using ammonia.

    • @Bubbibjoern
      @Bubbibjoern 5 років тому +24

      You made my day Björn.

    • @theharbingerofconflation
      @theharbingerofconflation 5 років тому +41

      ​@@odw32 They call it Weirdville, Ohio. The villagers are weary of old mad Ben and his sciency tricks.

    • @iwtommo
      @iwtommo 5 років тому +18

      @@odw32 And cutting anything he chooses clean in half with a 'very sciencey looking pressure washer'

  • @wessmall7957
    @wessmall7957 4 роки тому +1389

    Suddenly everything in his shop has dozens of tiny holes

    • @Daa253
      @Daa253 3 роки тому +2

      ???

    • @Daa253
      @Daa253 3 роки тому +1

      How?

    • @zh9664
      @zh9664 3 роки тому +29

      @@Daa253 do you... know what a joke is?

    • @zh9664
      @zh9664 3 роки тому +12

      @@Daa253 how could you not get it? did you comment this before watching the video?

    • @Daa253
      @Daa253 3 роки тому +1

      @@zh9664 I watched lol

  • @coastmansscenicproducts4591
    @coastmansscenicproducts4591 3 роки тому +139

    Not only is this impressive machining, he provides an articulate and thorough explanation of how it's accomplished. Accolades!

  • @smartereveryday
    @smartereveryday 5 років тому +708

    Drilling through a lathe cutter is impressive. I've never thought about EDM for drilling. This is genius.

    • @jordanlapointe8207
      @jordanlapointe8207 5 років тому +7

      Hey Dustin!

    • @dimi575
      @dimi575 5 років тому +18

      EDM is used to drill the cooling channels in turbine blades and vanes used in jet engines.

    • @josephlewinski2384
      @josephlewinski2384 5 років тому +35

      Been doing this since 1981, not exactly a new technology. However, having it affordable for a home DIY'er or hobbyist IS exciting. I do mainly wire EDM.

    • @irondiver292
      @irondiver292 5 років тому +11

      Jordan Lapointe *Destin

    • @cjkturtle9762
      @cjkturtle9762 5 років тому +4

      SmarterEveryDay Dustin I found a video a little while ago that introduced me to EDM drilling. Try searching on UA-cam for “Drilling through pencil lead”. That’s where I became fascinated :).

  • @Thepiecat
    @Thepiecat 5 років тому +553

    >It'll be too conductive
    >water your plants with it
    It's got what plants crave. (Electrolytes)

    • @k_froggy
      @k_froggy 5 років тому +36

      oh god i love that reference

    • @turk639
      @turk639 5 років тому +21

      Plants love heavy metal

    • @Barskor1
      @Barskor1 5 років тому +5

      Mostly iron copper and zinc the nano particulates are what make the water more conductive not salts.

    • @turk639
      @turk639 5 років тому +5

      @@Barskor1 salts can definetly make water conductive, just adding a bit of tabel salt to water does make it conduct electricity quite well.

    • @Barskor1
      @Barskor1 5 років тому +4

      @@turk639 Yes but that is not what is happening here he used distilled water that over time gained higher conductivity by drilling.

  • @petemoore5104
    @petemoore5104 3 роки тому +94

    A lot of years ago, I used one of these machines to remove broken drills, taps and hardened steel pegs from materials. It was extremely good at doing this and due to costing, worked out cheaper than re-machining the whole part again - mainly because I worked cheap.
    For fun, I used to make strings of ball bearings, similar to pearls, from worn out bearings.

    • @g60force
      @g60force 2 роки тому +6

      lol I read the last line wrong and was like... a ball-bearing thong doesn't sound comfortable XD

    • @petemoore5104
      @petemoore5104 2 роки тому +8

      @@g60force Hmm, never thought about that but am thinking that a few odd nuts might make for interesting thing, for the very brave....

  • @FapperDan
    @FapperDan 3 роки тому +186

    "Honey, where's my large mixing pot?"
    "You mean the large colander?"
    "No, I mean my big mixing bowl from the KitchenAid mixer"
    "Yes. You mean... the colander."

    • @BroughtToYouByDDean
      @BroughtToYouByDDean 3 роки тому +12

      Seriously most underrated comment of all time 🤣🤣 I just rapidly evacuated my beverage through several facial orifices.. thanks for that lol

    • @jamesschultz30
      @jamesschultz30 2 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @henrinaths1
      @henrinaths1 2 роки тому +1

      @@BroughtToYouByDDean
      Lol👍

    • @lysakivskyioleksii2146
      @lysakivskyioleksii2146 2 роки тому +1

      no need to worry, but in case, i hide my mixing bowl

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel 5 років тому +454

    Makes me want one so I can drill random holes through random hard metal objects, just because I can!

    • @kevlareditor7532
      @kevlareditor7532 5 років тому +17

      Matthias Wandel stay away from the wife’s pots and pans

    • @Jamie-Russell-CME
      @Jamie-Russell-CME 5 років тому +5

      All the bad ass dudes got this vid rec.
      Dude, your vids are great.
      This vid is awesome too.

    • @hollowhills2973
      @hollowhills2973 5 років тому +1

      I cant even imagine what uses youd come up with for this thing lol

    • @palewriter1856
      @palewriter1856 5 років тому +5

      Tell the truth, Matthias - you're in a mad scramble to build this in WOOD, huh? AvE, OTOH, is just waiting to tear this bad boy apart!

    • @Makyrie
      @Makyrie 5 років тому +6

      Go For It!!! Whatever Drills your hole!!! Right?

  • @ThisOldTony
    @ThisOldTony 5 років тому +170

    when I was younger my kid used to tell me stories of homemade EDM machines that I always dismissed as urban legend.
    I've seen that baxedm stuff around, great to see it implemented. Looking forward to seeing your wire feeder / tensioner. I talk alot when I'm excited; moral of the story: Amazing work!!

    • @channel11121
      @channel11121 5 років тому +5

      Do you mean your dad/friend/etc rather than `kid'?

    • @TheBodgybrothers
      @TheBodgybrothers 5 років тому +4

      @@channel11121 /r/whoosh

    • @vrsecky100
      @vrsecky100 5 років тому +6

      i'm pretty sure you're ordering parts right now Tony. Can't wait to see your version :-)

    • @Jamie-Russell-CME
      @Jamie-Russell-CME 5 років тому

      Dude, your vids rock, and this vid is freakin' sweet too!

    • @baxedm9806
      @baxedm9806 5 років тому +3

      Here's an example of how a DIY wire feeder and tensioner for Wire-EDM could look like: ua-cam.com/video/us3KhT7r01g/v-deo.html

  • @pepper669
    @pepper669 3 роки тому +11

    I once had a conversation with an engineer - he talked about a project he was working on. It was about EDM machining; they used a wire about the thickness of a human hair. It was so precise that when you put two freshly separated pieces of metal back together and left them for a while, they'd fuse back into one piece. Since EDM is pretty slow, they'd devised a system which was able to re-inject a new piece of wire using a jet of water should the old one have broken when running unsupervised during the night or over a weekend. Fascinating stuff!

    • @RareCondition
      @RareCondition Рік тому +1

      Did he mention the type of metal he was using?

  • @henrinaths1
    @henrinaths1 2 роки тому +10

    I had need for such a machine several times in my shop life and only guessed that such a machine existed. Not till now has the concept been shown as being practical and affordable. Thank you.
    Opens lots of new doors.

  • @jimbaritone6429
    @jimbaritone6429 5 років тому +136

    When I was in Grade 8, a buddy and I built an EDM drill starting from an article that had been in Popular Mechanics. I got a section of a many-splined transmission shaft to use as a "tool" from a shop that fixed Kenworth oilfield trucks. That was pretty hard, high-grade steel, and it was able to drill a close-fitting hole through a piece of 1-1/2" mild steel or aluminum plate. The plate being drilled was submerged in Kerosene in a clear Pyrex dish, so that the arc discharge was actually covered by the liquid. Raising/lowering the head for the cutting tool was a vertical slide made of maple, both the track and the movable head that ran in it. The maple slider holding the "tool" was raised and lowered by fly line running through a multi-line block & tackle made with Meccano pulleys. We got a very slow-turning gear motor out of a junked Timex watch display, which very slowly un-reeled the line, lowering the cutting tool. The speed for lowering the cutting head was one of the hardest things to get right. The winding motor wasn't variable speed or reversible - a hand crank raised the cutting head.
    We cobbled up a circulating pump using an automotive-type mechanical fuel pump with the actuating lever arm moved by a maple cam on a bolt chucked in a 1/4" electric drill. We put a diode in one leg of the power wires to slow the drill down. We made a tapered glass tubing nozzle for the hose where it "squirted" at the workpiece. That flushed the cuttings away from the tool pretty well, although not as nicely as if we'd had a tool head with a hollow center to pump the Kerosene through. The cuttings built up quite quickly, and we discovered that things didn't work so well if the liquid was full of metal cuttings. The solution for that problem was to drain the kerosene full of cuttings into a reservoir. Some settled out, and the pump output ran through a Diesel engine fuel filter. Our high voltage supply was 120 VAC going through a voltage doubler or tripler power supply, using some big capacitors, some big incandescent light bulbs for current limiting, and some high-rating diodes we obtained by writing to a solid-state component manufacturer. They sent us a box with 2 or 3 sets as well as some heat sink material free of charge, which was good of them.
    All this back in 1969 - 50 years ago - hard to believe. Later I became an electrical engineer, and belatedly learned just how dangerous this setup had been. But, ignorance is bliss, and we never had any shocks, big arcs, fires or major problems or failures, and it actually did cut really complex shaped holes through thick steel and aluminum. A buddy and I built this contraption and won 2nd prize at a regional science fair. We attended a really small school, with teachers who really didn't understand (fortunately) what we were doing very well. We figured we'd done OK, since about 80% of the parts were junk/scrap, begged, or donated, and the only "guidebook" we had was a Popular Mechanics article.
    We bought the big capacitors from a motor & genset rewinding shop that worked on oilfield equipment. They got interested in what we were doing, and donated the mechanical fuel pump, a bunch of hoses, and a diesel engine filter housing and filters along with the fittings to connect it all up. They thought using an electric drill to drive the pump showed "ingenuity." We were pretty lucky to have people help us out with things like that, and the high voltage diodes.
    It's sure a long, long way from where EDM technology is today. I went to an industrial trade show once, where some EDM equipment was being demo'd, and told one of the sales reps about the Grade 8 science fair project. He had a good laugh, and told me we'd been complete idiots. Which wasn't really fair - we built it with almost no adult help, solved all the problems, and made a working machine that actually drilled a 1"-1-1/4" splined hole through thick steel plate. We nicknamed the beast the "Spitzensparken" for obvious reasons. My friend's dad was a ham radio operator, so he knew something about high voltage wiring and insulation. We were pretty lucky in some respects. How many school science teachers today would let a couple of 13 year-olds build a project like this in the school lab?. We had parents who kept an eye on things but trusted us enough to be careful when fooling around with what was a pretty crude rig.

    • @mikemills69
      @mikemills69 4 роки тому +4

      Agreed, thumbs up for volume.

    • @stevesloan6775
      @stevesloan6775 4 роки тому +9

      Man that’s totally awesome!
      I love that you got your inspiration from “Popular Mechanics”..... The internet’s of yesteryear!!!🤓😂😂😂
      EDM would possibly be a cool way to fix a probe too a meteor. Drill and then weld. I’m wondering if you could torque steer the drill filament....🤓🤜🏼🤛🏼🤓🇦🇺

    • @3melendr
      @3melendr 4 роки тому +6

      @Jim Baritone, what a story of genius at such a young age! You knew your calling. Typical of people who become engineers. I assume you are now retired and like me keep up with the journals and science news. Life is good! I knew my calling early in life (7th grade) and took a basic electronics course. I had no father to encourage me and help me make my dreams come true. The Armed Forces Schools gave me more training and I was able to secure employment at the White Sands Missile Range as an ET and later on an Engineer Assistant. I took college courses as necessary after returning from Vietnam to stay proficient and competitive. You did well Jim as a young dreamer and became one of the most coveted of career professionals in the world. Best of wishes!

    • @BushCampingTools
      @BushCampingTools 4 роки тому +3

      Very cool and you sound about my age. Did similar crazy stuff from those mags all in the "lab" in my parents garage, they we always afraid I'd set fire to the garage and subsequently burn the house down LOL. I ended up going the scientist route but the thing I liked about what you said was about your science teachers. We had cool science teachers that were always "blowing thing up" and doing crazy experiments, I'd be a liar if I denied that they didn't have an influence on my later formal education.

    • @ultimaetsolder
      @ultimaetsolder 4 роки тому +4

      Thanks for the essay.

  • @chrish267
    @chrish267 5 років тому +120

    I bet he's the kind of guy that never loses a chuck key.

    • @bluefalconssuck5881
      @bluefalconssuck5881 5 років тому +7

      If that's a requirement... I'm out.
      I own dozens, if not hundreds, and on a good day I can find about 7... give or take a few.

    • @Unmannedair
      @Unmannedair 5 років тому +6

      who uses Chuck keys? i just use a vice grip.

    • @godofplumbing
      @godofplumbing 5 років тому +3

      @@Unmannedair haha, good I'm not the only one.

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 5 років тому

      ha! I wired one key to my dp and have another on a 6" piece of 1/2 inch galvanized pipe as an extension. Works great for getting the chuck real tight.

    • @godofplumbing
      @godofplumbing 5 років тому

      @@johnpossum556 good idea, but I probably still lose it. Haha.

  • @treverwolverton9362
    @treverwolverton9362 2 роки тому +8

    Not to mention he very clearly walks us through every step, so that novice to expert is in full understanding of form and function, as well as what and where to go-to for parts and programs for running it. Impressive. He clearly watched ALOT of Mr. Wizard as a youth. Thank you Obi One....

  • @daddybuddy
    @daddybuddy 2 роки тому +7

    Running an EDM drilling machine in my CNC-EDM Wirecut shop too makes me be even more impressed about you having build yourself such a machine DIY!
    It takes some really deep knowledge about electronics, the EDM process and also some decent building skills to get that done and finally to work!
    BIG RESPECT! WELL DONE!

  • @Braeden123698745
    @Braeden123698745 5 років тому +927

    Me: "Huh I wonder how (any advanced topic here) works?"
    Applied Science: "Here I've made this cutting edge technology in my garage, and made an great video about it."

    • @noahchristensen7342
      @noahchristensen7342 5 років тому +66

      Cutting edge. Ha... Ha... Ha...

    • @Ariccio123
      @Ariccio123 5 років тому +62

      Honestly, I'd love to get to know this guy, buy him a few drinks, hang out with him. If nothing else, I'm sure some of his smarts would transfer by osmosis to me!

    • @chebhou
      @chebhou 5 років тому +7

      @@Ariccio123 I second that

    • @vidznstuff1
      @vidznstuff1 5 років тому +6

      "Cutting edge" being 250 years old....ok.

    • @JoshStLouis314
      @JoshStLouis314 5 років тому +25

      @@vidznstuff1 Arc gouging technically may qualify as EDM, but I dare you to try making a 0.6mm hole with your welder.

  • @needleonthevinyl
    @needleonthevinyl 5 років тому +193

    I think hobbyist level EDM is going to make a large impact in the small/precision capabilities of the home shop

    • @prjndigo
      @prjndigo 5 років тому +16

      If you add in linear and oscillatory/elliptic processes you can end up manufacturing a LOT of nearly impossible to find parts.

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC 5 років тому +4

      still a long way to go to get precision out of it

    • @gregfeneis609
      @gregfeneis609 5 років тому +16

      It's more likely going to make lots of tiny little impacts of minimal force in the small/precision capabilities of the home shop

    • @fourtwo7612
      @fourtwo7612 5 років тому +6

      Seth Baker have you seen how much Bens setup costs? The baxedm psu is 2700 Eur alone! I dread to think what the total cost is - well out of reach of the average home shop

    • @littlestworkshop
      @littlestworkshop 5 років тому +2

      @@fourtwo7612 However it need not cost this much it is the current market that allows that pricing.

  • @mrwongus
    @mrwongus 4 роки тому +21

    My brain just melted. What a great introduction to EDM, was very informational, thank you!

  • @fk6823
    @fk6823 3 роки тому +10

    I've been a EDM programmer/operator for 25 years... When I started my apprenticeship.. EDM was in its infancy. I run Wire, sinker and Hole popping machines. Even after 25 years.. I'm still learning new and interesting aspects of the technology almost every day. Wire EDM is the most accurate form of machining available today. We regularly achieve tolerances of .00005. Currently my company has 8 Fanuc Wire machines along with several sinkers and hole poppers.

    • @yosyp5905
      @yosyp5905 3 роки тому

      .00005 what? attometers?

    • @fk6823
      @fk6823 3 роки тому

      @@yosyp5905 fifty millionths or half a ten thousandths of an inch

    • @yosyp5905
      @yosyp5905 3 роки тому +1

      @@fk6823 so, .00005 inches?

    • @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
      @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 2 роки тому

      That's amazing! Could this be used on rocks?

    • @fk6823
      @fk6823 2 роки тому

      @@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 no. Only metals

  • @reddcube
    @reddcube 5 років тому +137

    CNC milling for hobbyist ✅
    Resin 3D printers for hobbyist ✅
    Laser Cutter for hobbyist ✅
    EDM for hobbyist 🤯

    • @0lone0wolf0
      @0lone0wolf0 5 років тому +23

      Not to mention the electron microscope that video got me amazed for couple of months

    • @professoreggplant9985
      @professoreggplant9985 5 років тому +14

      Just think if there was as much interest in hobbyist biology we'd have a home remedy for cancer by now.

    • @rfldss89
      @rfldss89 5 років тому +4

      @@professoreggplant9985 that would be gardening, homebrewing, etc.

    • @mystamo
      @mystamo 5 років тому +10

      TSK TSK... Forget about the Pressure Washer Water Cutter?

    • @trhacje_m2187
      @trhacje_m2187 5 років тому +3

      We are living in amazing times, but still can't wait for the fusion reactor for hobbyist so I could run all those amazing machines cheaper :D

  • @nerdanderthalidontlikegoog7194
    @nerdanderthalidontlikegoog7194 5 років тому +77

    I EDMed a 1/2" wrench once while replacing batteries in a room sized UPS. A few hundred amps is all you need.

    • @satibel
      @satibel 5 років тому +1

      I know someone who welded a wrench using the same technique.
      Thinking about it, you could make a pretty easy high current welder/arc furnace using a few truck batteries.

    • @solarfluxman8810
      @solarfluxman8810 5 років тому +11

      My co-worker EDM-d about an inch off the end of her torque wrench, when tightening the bolts on bus-bars for a submarine battery. I believe it's ok to say this, because I found the specs on the internet: I'm talking about a 260 volt battery with a capacity of more than 10,000 amp-hours for each 2 volt cell. Each cell weighs 2,100 pounds. The total of 128 cells has stored energy of 2,600 kWh, and weighs more than 130 tons.

    • @jameswyatt1304
      @jameswyatt1304 5 років тому +3

      Everyone off the buss! It's pretty amazing what you can weld or vaporize with battery stacks. Used to be -48V for phone plants was The King here, but a lot of datacenter UPS battery plants can do it now.

    • @justus1995
      @justus1995 5 років тому +5

      i EDMed a new profile on my calipers with a 28v aircraft battery, you won't believe how efficient and fast that technique is

    • @ParkerAnderson1
      @ParkerAnderson1 5 років тому +2

      Out in the field, some people stick weld with 2 car batteries and jumper cables

  • @dumyyyyyy
    @dumyyyyyy 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks to your video, today i have successfully removed a broken screw tap from an aluminium heatsink. It was metric 3 and 6 mm long . I have done with a constant current lab supply with 10 amps and 24V. Rotation with a hand drilling machine. Thank you! Without you i don't think i could done it.

  • @mrrooter601
    @mrrooter601 4 роки тому +494

    18:20 this is some weird sounding EDM, i guess you can call anything music nowadays

    • @imtrash1228
      @imtrash1228 4 роки тому +1

      AhAhAhHaHa

    • @gblargg
      @gblargg 4 роки тому +9

      It's EDM for dogs (30kHz).

    • @iangraham5320
      @iangraham5320 4 роки тому +4

      EDM puts holes in your brain in a similar way.

    • @madaxe79
      @madaxe79 4 роки тому

      Sounds better than EDM to my ears

    • @alphavenus5076
      @alphavenus5076 4 роки тому +6

      @@iangraham5320 i think you had those to start with.

  • @fp4303
    @fp4303 5 років тому +17

    The world deserves a collab between Applied Science and This Old Tony.

    • @baxedm9806
      @baxedm9806 5 років тому +3

      Completely agree! :-)

    • @thombaz
      @thombaz 5 років тому

      Now he can drill trough his drill.

  • @Dex99SS
    @Dex99SS 5 років тому +346

    "In fact I have been able to drill through / ruin, every single conductive thing in the shop" lol ....

    • @ESEsnipes
      @ESEsnipes 4 роки тому +2

      forgot to check if his camera

  • @christopherryan9864
    @christopherryan9864 4 роки тому +1

    This has some useful automotive applications that I can see, namely adding safety wire to parts that didn't come with it. Very cool, thank you for showing this demonstration of your open source hardware table you built and the length of explanation of how and where you acquired the bits necessary to replicate.

  • @gb-dg5gi
    @gb-dg5gi 3 роки тому +6

    This is amazing, I pick up my jaw after seeing the tungsten bit with some small niddle through it!.

  • @legendarysideburns2213
    @legendarysideburns2213 5 років тому +301

    I choose to believe that it’s Electronic Dance Music machining.

    • @crimsonhalo13
      @crimsonhalo13 5 років тому +3

      ... straight into the brain.

    • @DapperHesher
      @DapperHesher 5 років тому +3

      When it comes to electronica, EDM machining is far inferior to IDM machining or EBM machining.

    • @derkeksinator17
      @derkeksinator17 5 років тому +4

      You could modulate the power supply to create music... So while stupid and unnecessary EDM machining should be possible

    • @randominternetguy2960
      @randominternetguy2960 5 років тому

      Choose to believe it's edm
      Choose life...

    • @barongerhardt
      @barongerhardt 5 років тому

      @webnothing Careful, don't anger the pixies.

  • @glenshort5123
    @glenshort5123 5 років тому +147

    You sir, are brilliant. I don't usually leave comments, and this has nothing to do with anything I would ever be involved in, but I found this very fascinating and articulate.

  • @TheOneAndOnlyNeuromod
    @TheOneAndOnlyNeuromod 2 роки тому

    I love the level of detail that you include on the engineering of each specific component and process for those of us that love the minutiae.

  • @bunzino8617
    @bunzino8617 3 роки тому +4

    I run Makino sinker EDMs and the capabilities of the machine is nuts! Super precise and some materials we also use for machining is Graphite/Carbon. There is different types of PoCo as well.

  • @electronash
    @electronash 5 років тому +36

    The complexity and variety of projects that Ben works on is amazing.
    Always so thoroughly explained, too.
    Every video is a must-watch for me. Keep up the good work. ;)

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 5 років тому

      That is the reason why you and others should continue to educate yourselves,
      learn proper English, be articulate and accurate in one's descriptions.
      That is only achieved when one has an extensive vocabulary.
      Learn from the example in the video and always strive for excellence.
      Perfection is NOT achievable ... Excellence is!

  • @drumbum7999
    @drumbum7999 5 років тому +75

    I had no idea this process was accessible. Thanks for the share.

  • @axgarcia5654
    @axgarcia5654 4 роки тому +7

    I never saw drilling like this. Is incredible. Beautiful technology.

    • @Finallybianca
      @Finallybianca 3 роки тому

      I have done it on some aerospace projects at the machine shop I worked at in Highschool. Were were not told exactly what we made as it was for the airforce. Was really cool to drill such timy holes through titanium

  • @willstikken5619
    @willstikken5619 4 роки тому +8

    I haven't seen EDM in decades. Guess I really haven't found a need for it lately. We used carbon electrodes for drilling holes but we also had electrodes in special shapes which were used to essentially cut precision curved slots in hard to machine aerospace materials.
    Our coolant setup was very different from the one described. Coolant was similar to ordinary low pressure, high flow spot cooling for other machine types but the conductive coolant was different.

  • @BulletProofCupid7
    @BulletProofCupid7 5 років тому +80

    Who would've ever thought that drilling a freaking hole can get so cool

    • @clock4883
      @clock4883 4 роки тому +2

      Even the tiniest things in life have the biggest amount of engineering behind them, it's really interesting to investigate the engineering and science behind some basic things we take for granted. I'd definitely watch Technology Connections' videos on these kind of things as they are seriously awesome.

    • @Freekniggers
      @Freekniggers 3 роки тому

      Dudes building megaliths.

  • @jamesdavis2027
    @jamesdavis2027 5 років тому +181

    Of course ben makes his own EDM machine! I expect a fully functional fusion reactor by the end of the week.
    Edit: just wanted to plug this excellent Japanese tv show called supreme skills which is sort of a game show for Japanese scientists and manufacturing specialists. Heres an episode where they use a manual lathe and EDM drilling to drill through a pencil lead: ua-cam.com/video/pCtWPbTDbuY/v-deo.html
    Maybe you should give that a shot!

    • @theCodyReeder
      @theCodyReeder 5 років тому +42

      not if he doesn't want a run in with the law.

    • @nomadben
      @nomadben 5 років тому +3

      @@theCodyReeder No surprise to see you here Cody. Ben does some amazing work.

    • @skylerlehmkuhl135
      @skylerlehmkuhl135 5 років тому +2

      I half expect he's already got a fusor sitting around somewhere.

    • @AppliedScience
      @AppliedScience  5 років тому +47

      @@theCodyReeder There's a reason that I have not done an X-ray video in a long time :)

    • @SlamminGraham
      @SlamminGraham 5 років тому +1

      @@theCodyReeder They seemed to leave this guy alone just fine.
      ua-cam.com/video/O5_WvmQiqz0/v-deo.html

  • @kjbaran
    @kjbaran 4 роки тому +1

    The level of application for this is insane.

  • @DakotaSiberious
    @DakotaSiberious 3 роки тому +5

    Electrical discharge machining drilling machine, wow that’s a mouthful.

  • @QuanrumPresence
    @QuanrumPresence 5 років тому +26

    42 Seconds in, had to stop and like. Wow, you drill through tungsten carbide with that ease

  • @michaelseery5588
    @michaelseery5588 5 років тому +93

    Another fantastic video.
    I think it would be fun to drill across the diameter of a quarter.

    • @nomadben
      @nomadben 5 років тому +14

      I'd love to see that.

    • @godofplumbing
      @godofplumbing 5 років тому +5

      That would be awesome.

    • @walterkersting1362
      @walterkersting1362 5 років тому +5

      Party down, dude...

    • @tonythomas951
      @tonythomas951 5 років тому +3

      That would be cool

    • @MrMitchB
      @MrMitchB 5 років тому +2

      dammit Michael you beat me to it, although, I was thinking a nickle. Any coin would be awesome.

  • @dr.strangelove5320
    @dr.strangelove5320 3 роки тому +3

    You made this so interesting. I couldn't pull away for a second. Thank you very much!

  • @hawkenman.549
    @hawkenman.549 3 роки тому

    And I thought I was a machinist because I use my DeWalt drill to drill a 1/16 hole in steel. This video was well worth the time and I learned so much. There’s a lot I don’t understand but I really enjoyed. Thank you.

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez 5 років тому +664

    I wonder what This Old Tony is thinking right now.

    • @shadowfirekarp
      @shadowfirekarp 5 років тому +149

      Dad jokes. Definitely dad jokes.

    • @saml7610
      @saml7610 5 років тому +36

      I hope he's thinking about building a home brew wire EDM machine.

    • @RexusKing
      @RexusKing 5 років тому +45

      @@saml7610 How to break a tap part2A: Tap extraction with EDM?!
      How to break a tap part2B: EDM build part 1

    • @mauriziofigini
      @mauriziofigini 5 років тому +13

      must be biting his nails, climb cut.

    • @anubisvex3309
      @anubisvex3309 5 років тому +34

      I love im in this circle of youtube

  • @Nighthawkinlight
    @Nighthawkinlight 5 років тому +121

    I remember you mentioning this process on one of my videos a couple years ago and I had since forgotten about it. This is crazy cool. I was just about to ask about how you even begin to figure out your feed rate when you mentioned the software does that for you. I really need to stop leaving comments before I finish videos. Looking forward to seeing how the wire EDM works in the X Y axis. Thanks for the great video as always!

    • @Kumquat_Lord
      @Kumquat_Lord 2 роки тому +6

      The craziest part about wire EDM is that the top and bottom guides can move independently which means you can cut some crazy shapes with odd tapers. Even a shape with a square on one end and a circle on the other, with one singular cut

  • @OnTheEDge2011
    @OnTheEDge2011 4 роки тому +4

    Amazing work and amazing narration of the project. I want one! Thank you so much!

  • @redseasplitter
    @redseasplitter 4 роки тому +31

    Now this is the kind of EDM I can get into.

  • @supadad1971
    @supadad1971 5 років тому +31

    I won't pretend for 1 second to have understood everything that was going on.. But, it certainly is mesmerizing.. Thanks..

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 5 років тому +15

    You've got excellent and very unique videos, unlike many other channels that show the same YT videos over and over.

  • @googlearchipelago2825
    @googlearchipelago2825 3 роки тому +8

    I know when I've stumbled upon something way over my head. Great work!

  • @pw3543
    @pw3543 4 роки тому +8

    I’ve seen this before and forgot how interesting it was, thanks again. great video.

  • @ProlificInvention
    @ProlificInvention 5 років тому +30

    *Applied Science* I collect Niobium and Ferro-Niobium, would love to see you drill through the crystalline as well as solid bar forms using the EDM method. You are also the one guy who may be able to melt it in the home shop. Usually an electron beam welder type device is used to melt it, I had always wondered if a carbon arc mini foundry would be capable.

  • @donpollard9460
    @donpollard9460 5 років тому +61

    The local engineering shop that I frequented during my formative years on the farm had one of these units, and you could 'eat' out a broken off bolt/stud/whatever - it used what looked like a 1/2 horse electric motor, that had been reconfigured to be an electromagnet; the circuit ran through the armature and back through the work piece.
    When you applied the lever and brought the tungsten electrode into contact with the work piece, it energised the armature and the the electrode was pulled away from the work piece and created your arc, thus eroding the part a little.
    Repeated application of the electrode kept eating away at the part until it was (most;y) removed, allowing the broken part to be extracted.
    Magic!

    • @Cole-ek7fh
      @Cole-ek7fh 5 років тому +3

      Don Pollard no. magic is not real.
      electricity is real.

    • @somebodyelse6673
      @somebodyelse6673 4 роки тому +3

      makes me think of lift-start TIG welding.

    • @kurtolney6510
      @kurtolney6510 4 роки тому +2

      Working on an old steam engine--might have an application.

  • @MadLabZ
    @MadLabZ 3 роки тому

    Could be a game changer for making solder paste stencils!!! This project is on my "To Do" list for sure, good stuff.

  • @slartybartfarst9737
    @slartybartfarst9737 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you 20 years of wondering just how EDM works answered in 30 minutes and Im an engineer!

  • @Ev3rM0r3
    @Ev3rM0r3 5 років тому +618

    Don't even know what I'd use it for but I want to build one.

    • @richmac918
      @richmac918 5 років тому +11

      Ev3rMOr3 - more impressive is EDM wire cutting. You can do amazing things with it, cut some very complex shapes. I'd love to have one but I can't imagine this thing being cheap, even if I built it myself

    • @Ev3rM0r3
      @Ev3rM0r3 5 років тому +2

      @@richmac918 yeah I watched the guy with the edm machine that acts like a bandsaw. Cut was near perfect precision.

    • @ronnetgrazer362
      @ronnetgrazer362 5 років тому +8

      How about drilling .3mm holes through an aluminum front panel in any symbol configuration, so that you hardly see the holes until you shine an LED through them? Bonus points for voronoi stippling patterns, or a nice phylotaxis spiral for some subtle speaker holes. You can make them practically invisible to the naked eye with an ion beam but I'm guessing that's a little more involved.

    • @donpollard9460
      @donpollard9460 5 років тому +1

      Same here!

    • @irgendwieanders1
      @irgendwieanders1 5 років тому +1

      the way is the destination :D

  • @manudehanoi
    @manudehanoi 5 років тому +242

    5:30
    - "I couldnt believe it, It was cheaper than the raw materials from Mc Master by a lot"
    - I can

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, McMasterCarr is very expensive, even for small consumables like abrasives

    • @340havoc
      @340havoc 3 роки тому +5

      Yup. But if you need something, odds are they have it.

    • @venusreena2532
      @venusreena2532 3 роки тому

      We just bought metal from McMastuz..Not cheap

    • @nickrichie517
      @nickrichie517 3 роки тому

      i just got fep film through mcmaster for my resin printer was about half the precut stuff even after shipping. so ymmv.

  • @guzman9011
    @guzman9011 3 роки тому +1

    This technology will move us toward the future at high speed. It’s awesome

  • @jeramydupree4205
    @jeramydupree4205 2 роки тому +1

    Appreciate your: video, explanations, product recommendations, and the time put into it. Thank you for sharing, brother 🙌 Will be saving up to make one myself 😁

  • @PracticalEngineeringChannel
    @PracticalEngineeringChannel 5 років тому +35

    So cool

    • @dan110024
      @dan110024 5 років тому +3

      Do you guys, like, know each other? Your icons always make me confused until I watch the video and see which it is

    • @TheWireEDM
      @TheWireEDM 5 років тому +2

      @@dan110024 You are not alone :D Both are great, both have the same style.

  • @Drakkanna69
    @Drakkanna69 5 років тому +31

    I love technology and people's ability to find new things to do and how far they can push it. Great video.

    • @agiantfrog
      @agiantfrog 5 років тому +2

      yes. but this is very old technology. i run EDM machines and my teachers back in college had

  • @DudesIn101
    @DudesIn101 3 роки тому +3

    I'm new to your chann,this was my first vid,I'm impressed with your knowledge and I like the way you explain what it is your talking about,I'm fascinated with newer technology, this is just amazing to me and I appreciated your vid,thank you...

  • @alturasu
    @alturasu 4 роки тому +2

    You are at different dimension ! Very well done !

  • @maglight117
    @maglight117 5 років тому +22

    EDM seems like it'd be a really good way to make a metal block for generating laminar flow.

    • @maglight117
      @maglight117 5 років тому +3

      I wish lmao

    • @MRBthecharger
      @MRBthecharger 5 років тому +5

      @@NSRexler Lmao, same thought. I'll never hear laminar flow and not think about Destin.

    • @DAVOinIN
      @DAVOinIN 5 років тому +3

      I thought the same thing! Destin has infiltrated all of our minds.

    • @myates4652
      @myates4652 5 років тому +3

      @@DAVOinIN Destin has been deemed a cyber weapon by our govt, so it's possible.

  • @brandonacree4605
    @brandonacree4605 5 років тому +6

    Hey, great thing about Openbuilds is that if you need to extend your Z axis to account for a longer probe if you don't want to cut them short, you can get a longer threaded rod and matching C-beam to extend the height.

  • @isaackay5887
    @isaackay5887 3 роки тому +24

    *_I reeaalllyy want ElectroBoom to make one of these with his arc generator_*

  • @walterrumohr7090
    @walterrumohr7090 Рік тому

    Keep on going, it’s the future of special drilling delicate applications.❤

  • @lvd2001
    @lvd2001 5 років тому +59

    Excellent speaker - well spoken and explained

  • @meninpursuitofpurpose3331
    @meninpursuitofpurpose3331 5 років тому +6

    This was an excellent presentation that was very well-spoken. The words used fit prefectly in the context of the video material.
    The extra effort put forth to inform is something many relevant viewers will not go without appreciating.

  • @davoodehajiraj
    @davoodehajiraj 3 роки тому

    This is almost a break through industry , but the down to earth guy is talking like is not a big deal
    Very intelligent person

  • @robjtko
    @robjtko 2 роки тому

    WOW!! Wish this wasn’t so far above my head. Thanks for the video.

  • @Aklemvaeo
    @Aklemvaeo 5 років тому +91

    All of these metal object appear to have been pierced by dry spaghetti.

  • @patprop74
    @patprop74 5 років тому +3

    And this ladies and gentleman is why i love this channel, I seen a EDM machine in a clients machine shop, and I didn't understand the science behind it, And now I do ! Amazing technology. i wouldn't be surprised if this technology dates back to the 60's, now with opening up of patents we can now start benefiting in a small shop environment much like 3d printers.

    • @highstreetkillers4377
      @highstreetkillers4377 5 років тому

      3d printers are dumb and will never replace machine shop and molding machines

  • @Chrissi33004
    @Chrissi33004 3 роки тому +2

    21:15 *furiously bends the rod while assembling it*
    "man this hole is so big, the something must be out of alignment"
    Great stuff man, very educational

    • @stephenculen576
      @stephenculen576 Рік тому

      The guide is too high. I set them to about 1/32 above the workpiece and it keeps the electrode from running out a lot.

  • @Cultureshockcrew
    @Cultureshockcrew 3 роки тому +7

    Nice. I started running 5-axis EDM right out of high school. Ran cooling ops on jet engine parts.

    • @vodkasour8385
      @vodkasour8385 3 роки тому +1

      Well thats a nerd of a different color right there

  • @earthstewardude
    @earthstewardude 5 років тому +9

    This guy needs to come over to my shop and hang out until I die! He's my new hero!

  • @tkskagen
    @tkskagen 5 років тому +5

    I was COMPLETELY enthralled with listening and watching this entire video!
    Thinking to myself "what to make first?"!
    Take care,
    🤓 -Thomas

  • @Pillowcase
    @Pillowcase 2 роки тому

    I love all the examples of holes through extremely hard metal objects.

  • @oak_meadow9533
    @oak_meadow9533 2 роки тому +1

    Another wonderful video, you are like a video version of pre-1980's "Scientific American's The Amateur Scientist"
    you have kept me current (so to speak) in so many area's of (he-he-he) applied science. You are a diamond set in titanium, amongst hard core(lol) technicians. Thanks to you I no longer buy acetic anhydride, but instead, learned how to build a ketene lamp... with all glass construction except for the electrodes which are embedded in the glass to provide a perfect seal. Without your pointing the way it never would have happened.

  • @mkaia47
    @mkaia47 5 років тому +6

    Man i love your channel. Im a mechenical engeneering student and its just awesome to see how amazing your knowleadge is. Thanks for sharing this on youtube

  • @JediNg135
    @JediNg135 5 років тому +322

    Anything is conductive with enough voltage ;D

    • @theshuman100
      @theshuman100 5 років тому +109

      Voltage is just a measure of how hard you yeet electrons

    • @vooveks
      @vooveks 5 років тому +35

      @no privacy Yeah, 'yeet', as in 'wow, he really yeeted the bejesus out of those electrons'.

    • @hjdorn
      @hjdorn 5 років тому +14

      @@user-jp1qt8ut3s "explosive brute force" EBF drilling? I like it.

    • @JediNg135
      @JediNg135 5 років тому

      @@user-jp1qt8ut3s I know. I'm just being silly man :)

    • @JoshStLouis314
      @JoshStLouis314 5 років тому +1

      @Reno Simpson At that point it's just arc gouging again with copper plated graphite electrodes. I think AvE did a vidjeo about that a while ago with the stick welder instead of baterías.

  • @eCitizen1
    @eCitizen1 3 роки тому +1

    I forgot to mention that this is SO FREAKING COOL!

  • @123philimo
    @123philimo 4 роки тому +570

    "half a thou of an inch"
    me: *screaming in metric*

    • @GroBestGardens
      @GroBestGardens 4 роки тому +54

      "Half a thou of an inch" is quite understandable by anyone in mechanical engineering or anyone with a machining background. It is simply 1/2 of 1/1000 of an inch >>> or 0.0005". Then .0005 inch x (25.4 mm/inch) = 0.0127 mm. ...... Ed

    • @GroBestGardens
      @GroBestGardens 4 роки тому +26

      Also common for engineering and machining is "mils" where "1/1000th of an inch" is also called "1 mil". So "1/2 mil" also is equal to .0005".

    • @wessmall7957
      @wessmall7957 4 роки тому +28

      laughs in American

    • @gdjpodo3370
      @gdjpodo3370 4 роки тому +82

      imperial system is primitive

    • @wessmall7957
      @wessmall7957 4 роки тому +5

      @@gdjpodo3370 Are you a scientist?

  • @dianamccandless7094
    @dianamccandless7094 4 роки тому +48

    SO WELL narrated! Excellent learning.

  • @SuperAWaC
    @SuperAWaC 5 років тому +236

    AvE is gonna be jealous when he sees this

    • @btraker
      @btraker 5 років тому +17

      This definitely chooches!

    • @allesklarklaus147
      @allesklarklaus147 5 років тому +8

      Is his edm machine even close to working?

    • @mduckernz
      @mduckernz 5 років тому +13

      @@btraker Thar pixies be angry and fierce!

    • @JustinAlexanderBell
      @JustinAlexanderBell 5 років тому +10

      @@allesklarklaus147 He promised it to Patreons like 4 years ago or something, still nothing afaik.

    • @Dark6star
      @Dark6star 5 років тому +4

      @@JustinAlexanderBell oof

  • @remka3650
    @remka3650 Рік тому

    Fantastic narration, explanation, work, and all the stuff.

  • @WilliamWagner1
    @WilliamWagner1 6 місяців тому

    I am going to have to get one of these going asap. I have had so much trouble drilling offset holes in uneven surfaces. This is like the holy grail of holes. The Holey Grail.

  • @kenji8763
    @kenji8763 5 років тому +6

    I've been subscribed to you for years and years, and you still manage to astonish me with your incredible science experiments. Thank you for all you do!

  • @tfp777
    @tfp777 5 років тому +30

    Commonly used to remove broken taps a demo would be nice, the EDM machine I witnessed removing a tap was 30 years ago.

    • @SidneyCritic
      @SidneyCritic 5 років тому +4

      Yeah it's been around a long time. My friend used to EDM Alum extrusion dies in the 80s.

    • @djmips
      @djmips 5 років тому

      That makes sense! Thanks for that thought.

    • @hillorystanton6209
      @hillorystanton6209 5 років тому +1

      tfp777 we had a machine like this back in 1964 at the Naval ordnance plant.

    • @johnhili8664
      @johnhili8664 5 років тому

      Yes I had one 40 years ago it was called a taps disintegratior it was made in Australia:-)

    • @superjeffstanton
      @superjeffstanton 5 років тому

      @@hillorystanton6209 thank you for the info by the way last same last names

  • @johnwilliamson467
    @johnwilliamson467 3 роки тому +1

    From decades of working with analog power supplies filter and shielding and low noise ultra fast soft recovery diodes help a great deal . Wire management also reduce antenna effects of un-shielded wire . Faraday cage does work also . Enjoyed the video keep up the fine work.

  • @lahma69
    @lahma69 4 роки тому +5

    I'm a reverse code engineer by trade but holy geeze... There is some unidentified logic in my brain that is inherently inquisitive about the ability to drill a teeny tiny hole through almost any conductive material you can imagine... These materials were specifically produced in order to resist the most abrasive materials and processes that man works with yet its almost as if you've managed to just push a small pin through them as if they were butter... So freaking cool! What I really want to know though is how the heck they create such a teensy tiny hole in those conductive rods that are already ridiculously tiny.

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez 5 років тому +85

    Would you consider doing a video about graphene chemical vapor deposition?

    • @Amipotsophspond
      @Amipotsophspond 5 років тому +4

      Esra Erimez graph vapor d is easy get roll of copper put it in a methane atmosphere and cook it at high temps. u need to put seed xystal on the copper. I would like to see some en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-beam_lithography he already has a scope he could mod.

    • @saml7610
      @saml7610 5 років тому +2

      @@Amipotsophspond It would be a short video for sure. The process is actually very simple - it's the science behind it that's complex. Kind of like nuclear, it's actually very simple in concept, but the finer details are what gets ya.

    • @actiglow
      @actiglow 5 років тому +1

      Perhaps titianium nitride or gold vapor deposition?

    • @namibjDerEchte
      @namibjDerEchte 5 років тому +2

      @@actiglow I imagine depositing gold could be done with something akin to a plasma welder. I.e. HF arc between gold electrodes and blowing it with a suitable gas (likely argon or hydrogen, for not being in the way when the layer builds) onto the target. Maybe use magnets to focus the arc for better sputtering of gold when hit by plasma (higher current density==higher temperature to get a mix or sputtering and PVD).
      This could allow high-res additive manufacturing, by way of depositing a conductive film, printing/exposing a mask, followed by stripping the mask and briefly wet-etching the thin film.
      The aspect ratio is limited by the mask's aspect ratio, not by the ~0.5 you get from pure substracive wet etch (aka traditional PCB process).
      You could fill the voids from mask stripping with something and repeat. Note that buried vias are trivial in this technology, as well as buried semiconductor dies which are prepared for flip-chip mounting (though they might be preferred without balls).

  • @argentpuck
    @argentpuck 5 років тому +5

    We use a wire EDM at my workplace to cut certain metals and I'm learning how to operate the machine, but this video was great for explaining how the process works. I'll be looking forward to what you have to show with regards to wire EDM processes, but this drilling process was quite fascinating.

  • @lagrangian143
    @lagrangian143 2 роки тому

    I'm glad I watched this when I randomly woke up at 2 am this is really cool

  • @tomschmidt2595
    @tomschmidt2595 3 роки тому

    I needed that drill set up yesterday.
    Seriously.
    Very cool

  • @brad3378
    @brad3378 5 років тому +11

    I am very pleased with OpenBuilds components.

  • @dallasroberts3206
    @dallasroberts3206 5 років тому +16

    You do an excellent job of explaining all of this.
    Thank you!

  • @colemanadamson5943
    @colemanadamson5943 4 роки тому

    This vid is a year old now but I think you could put together kits or whole assemblies and do quite well. This is an awesome tool and video. Thank you.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 5 років тому +56

    Can we see inside the arc generator please!

    • @inductorbackemf7204
      @inductorbackemf7204 5 років тому +3

      I second this!

    • @nickdubiel2058
      @nickdubiel2058 5 років тому

      Please!!!

    • @TheWireEDM
      @TheWireEDM 5 років тому +1

      Check out my channel, I have a video (ZwFVmkptS00 from 14:50 onward) of the BaxEDM generator with a peek inside :)

    • @AdityaMehendale
      @AdityaMehendale 5 років тому +1

      Watch it (in great detail) on Mike Bax's UA-cam channel! (BAXEDM) in Mike's own words ;) ua-cam.com/channels/y4kgsAYxcraee8w5SfqXPA.html