Even though we usually travel solo, we still carry a snatch strap. We may travel alone but if we need help and another vehicle comes along and offers to help, we regard it as good 4x4 manners to have our own gear to do the recovery. If any gear breaks, at least it is our gear not someone else's.
I really like your channel. It's no BS, and you just don't throw money at everything like a lot of the other channels. The shovel in my book is one of the most important tools to have, hell if you have enough time and the energy, you can dig yourself out of most bad situations. Cheers from Canada.
First real 4wd traveler soon and i mostly plan on beach driving. There are others around where im driving but maxtrax will definitely be the top of the list now. Definitely glad i revisited this video to make me rethink of what i need first.
Worst I ever got bogged. 13 years ago. I was by myself. Drove through what I thought was just a large puddle. Turned out to be 2 very deep wheel ruts and a solid centre. All 4 wheels were spinning in deep liquid mud, sitting on the belly of the vehicle. All I had was the bottle jack. Spent nearly 6hrs jacking up one wheel at a time, shoving rocks under the wheels, giving me more clearance to put extra rocks under the jack to get more clearance to put more under the tyres and so on. I was head to toe in mud. Couldn't see what I was doing as it was all underneath mud. I went purely by feel. Jumped in a nearby creek to rinse off. A high lift jack would have got me out in FAR less time. Worst part was the road ended about 100m past where I got bogged, so I had to turn around and go through it again..... which got me bogged again!!!!! This time though I had enough rocks in the holes that I was able to just rock myself out..... with a degree of rage. I have recovery gear now. Won't leave home without it.
Only thing I would add for solo recovery would be a “come along” or hand winch. I carry one in case I need to add tension to the rear of the vehicle while winching. For instance if the rear is trying to slide down while winching you have an adjustable pull available.
You can use a hi lift as a come along. It’s certainly not as effective but being that they both weigh a lot and take up loads of space, I’d stick with a hi lift
Awesome video man! Would you consider doing a video on “how to convoy”? How the cars on the convoy should line up? I reckon the lightest vehicle should be in front because they do less damage to the track. But there’s also a good point in putting the heaviest and most capable rig in front so it can winch up less capable cars. Cheers, keep the awesome content! I’ve just signed your patreon
The only other thing I can think of is a come-a-long, if you are by yourself. I carry winter gear if it’s frozen ground. Extra fuel for winter, first aid kit, and a phone or radio, and a GPS locator to call for help. Extra food & water, if you are going to desolate locations. Recovery equipment only works with a functional vehicle, don’t forget your brain, too much guts will get you killed. Personally, I travel armed, depending on the wild life I might encounter, will influence my choices. I would feel safer with someone with your experience, when traveling remote areas. Great 👍🏻 video, subscribed, now.👍🏻
Excellent video for a new guy. I have already bought a kit and some extra goodies and now, it looks like I need more. :) The only thing I can add is a hand torch and a headlamp torch (or more). I put atleast one in my first aid kit glovebox, snake bite kit and spare wheel well etc. Recovery in the dark using a phone torch will work but might drop in in a creek, break it and it will give you one less hand to work with.🔦👍🍻🤠🇦🇺
Nice video. For wheeling in the forest... Must haves for me include gloves, head lamp, come-along (hand winch), tree strap, shovel, axe, bridle, snatch strap. Chainsaw plus axe if you have it :)
Hi my name is Scott. I'm sure there is plenty of self recovery videos out there and I saw your what would happend snatch straps, which was pretty cool by the way. But I would like to see more self recovery videos.
If going with only your truck, 2 more very important things to have/do, leave a trip plan with someone, where when and when return within a reasonable amount of time........ common sense, when to not go on... turn around and know what you and your truck are capable of. great information tho!
Obviously this is an older video but I'm finding soft shackles to be so versitle I carry 4 minimum. The don't weigh much. You can connect then together to go around frames, a-arms, wheel spokes, and rollbars. Obviously not always the best recovery points but especially in the sxs world you don't have many options for recovery points.
Hey Ronny. I think you got the pulley example backwards. Putting the pulley on the tree (fixed point) only changes the direction of the pull. To double the pull or half the load, the pulley must be on the vehicle being recovered and the tree (fixed point) near the recovery vehicle. If you're referring to self extraction with a winch you need 2 pulleys to accomplish that.
Extra fuel can't hurt, but the best place to store it is in your tank. Fill up before you go out! If you do carry gas cans, make sure to cycle the fuel out regularly. Filling your starving rig with bad gas in the middle of nowhere will be a difficult recovery.
Solo Travellers and the Deadman Ground Anchor. You missed the most important use in my opinion. SIGNALING MAT when all else fails. Lay it flat on the ground so “Search and Rescue” can see it. Next on my shopping list, just need to save the money.
I think its time for Ronny and Andrew SPW to be volunteered / voluntold to do another joint video, this time with the State Emergency Services SES and the Australian Royal Flying Doctors. A summary at the start that rolls up Ronny's previous advice on first aid and snake bite kits would be nice. I rather like .Jack Absalom's The Road To Survival'
@@howardp6682 I seconded that. State Emergency Services SES and the Australian Royal Flying Doctors could tell some stories of what and what not to do. Jack Absalom is why I got into overlanding. Who needs a 4X4, old Sigma Wagon would do the trick😊 .
A shovel snatch and treds that's all you need anything beyond that is catering for a specific track or 4wd style. For example if you do nothing but beach work get a compressor snatch and a set of treds/maxtrax and a shovel you don't need anymore than this. Bush driving the above add a winch and extra straps. Hardcore off roading The above add a high lift for busted beads and extra recovery equipment extension straps etc and beers because you will be stuck a lot.
@Graeme Yamaha if you need more then a shovel tracks and a snatch strap on the beach tell me why? What else do you need bar the above add a winch and extra recovery straps for the bush? Would be interested to know
I have been 4 wheeling in Botswana before and we had most of this stuff and when one of our vehicles ran out of gas we flat towed it 20 kilometers to the next town using the tow strap. We had bow shackles on the front and rear bumpers of our land cruiser and got stuck in deep sand. We used a suzuki jimny to tow it out of the sand. Man, good times. Especially when you use sticks, bones and whatever is around you to make a makeshift road to get traction. That trip lasted 16 days. We almost hit elephants and giraffes haha. Would totally do it again.
I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned, but the heavier/stronger shackle is for vehicles that are towing. You’re not just recovering the vehicle, but the GCM. 😊
Solid, sound advice without a bunch of whiz-bang gizmos and gadgets that are designed primarily to extricate cash from your pocket, not your vehicle from misfortune. Thanks for spelling it out Ronny!
I'd like to say thanks for showing the Factor 55 splicing tool and the short straps. I hadn't heard of those before. Just ordered them both for my kit!!! Awesome video as always!!!
Hi Ronny when in the High Country you need to carry a chain saw, there are always trees down and you should not drive around them. could you put a link to the new type of Snatch blocks you have there.
This is a superb roll-up of vehicle recovery necessities for different travelling situations,.with the very latest tips for new kit on the market. I will be forwarding it on.
Speaking from the Northwest US, chainsaw, last three weekends going out and the DNR has other things to do, none of that will properly move a 15 inch log that fell in the snow. Snow gone but good way to stop a weekend.
I read further comments below. It seems an extension strap (tow strap) might not be the best item if you want additional length (no winch) but you would be better having TWO snatch straps ? However a lot of the recoveries I have watched would probably have been just as easy using a light tow rather than a snatch - there must surely be times when all that is required is just a little more oomph that could be provided by a tow rather than the snatch. I myself have been assisted out of sand with a tow and not a snatch.
Great List Ronny! As for _needing_ a winch, if I may be so bold I'd suggest "... if you're in a hurry or want to save some labor." If you've only got a long weekend to bash around the bush and need to get back to work on Monday or something of the like, sure. If you have the time, you can do everything a winch will do and more with a simple high lift jack. It'll cost you a lot less, is more versatile, and saves the weight of a heavy bloke hanging on the front of your bumper. With a few bits and bobs, you can winch forward, back, or any which way. It is easily maintained in the field too. Sure, it's slow as molasses but it is effective. I've followed overlanders who have traveled the back parts of South America and wilds of Asia for years without a winch, but a well used high lift got them out of every time. Now that I think about it, that may be an interesting bit of video content you might consider. I'd put it in the category of a luxury time/work saver rather than a must-have. If you're into popping out onto challenging technical terrain on the weekends and you find yourself needing to pull yourself out every time, then I can see it, but for adventure travelers and overlanders, I'd rate a winch pretty low down the priority list, especially if you have limited funds. Others have their own priorities though, and that's all good too. I'd just like to dispel the pervasive truism that you _need_ a winch if you're going off-road. You may need the ability to winch, but an electric/hydraulic/pto winch isn't the only way to do that. Once again, awesome list. Great video. Well scripted and edited. You did a stellar job!
@@michaelblake4442 Agreed. That's a situation I'd have on my list too. I did say "if you're in a hurry." Although it is arguable whether one should venture into tidal flats solo and if you have other vehicles around, a shovel and snatch straps will probably get you out of the danger zone quicker than setting up a winch pull. I'm not trying to say a high lift is a perfect replacement for a powered winch. I'm just trying to encourage out of the box thinking a bit. More than one way to skin a cat.
@@sethwilliamson Yes i have been travelling solo for over 30 years now and have skun my fare share of cats, i even got my 40 series around the world in the early eighties with only a hi lift, a few shackles and some straps before moving to a Tirfor Hand winch, but these are both tools i would recommend for a young man and being in my late fifties and more cash positive i wouldn't travel solo these days without my winch. Safe travels.
Great video Ronny! Also choose reliable brand of recovery gears, like Miolle recovery gears. there kinetic rope is awesome! Quality rope. Was able to use the elasticity of it to safely and successfully rescue a 1-ton pickup that was high centered in deep snow. Provided D-Rings make attachment easy and secure. Also stores easy in the provided bag.
Take a shovel and a spade. If you are more than one person in the car and one is for the majority of digging the other for cramped spaces. And in a convoy something like a Burkbar
Instead of a winch I carry two BOG 2tb portable hard drive, each with their 15 metre long ropes. I also take 80 metres of boat anchor rope (2T breaking strain) for use as an extension strap and a couple of other ropes and shackles to provide a straight pull. The
Oops. I'm new at posting. The ropes are also available to be employed as a Spanish windlass/flip flop winch, should a sideways pull be necessary, say in a rollover situation- God Forbid.
One thing Ronny. You mentioned joining a snatch strap to a winch extension strap. This shouldn't be recommended as a winch extension strap is not kenetic like a snatch strap and will not stretch. You may have only been using it to demonstrate the joining process of two straps but I wouldn't recommend anyone doing this in an actual snatch recovery scenario. A winch extension strap is to be used to create extra length required for winch recoveries only
Thats right. Do not join extension strap and snatch strap together. Also, if you join an extension strap to bridle or another extension strap I insert a 1 inch dowl ( about 8 inches long) instead of a magazine (your suggestion), that way its easy to undo. Simply pull dowl and it releases the knot.
@Graeme Yamaha some of the best recovery techniques are devised and argued around a campfire when travelling and obviously on channels and forums like this one. Everyone's experience in a recovery situation can vary greatly, as does the terrain they find themselves in. The most important thing to consider is the safety of those involved in the recovery, as well as the vehicle's. That is why I said "recommend". It doesn't mean you shouldn't if the necessity arises and there are no other options to recover a vehicle. If you are going to offer a counter argument, it should be done in a civil and constructive manner. The tone of your reply wasn't either. Now, I will give you some FACTS: Manufacturers of recovery straps use different materials and webbing weaves to produce a strap of the correct strength, and an understanding of the differences between a snatch strap and a winch extension strap is important for safety. Snatch straps are typically manufactured from nylon webbing. The thickness, width and weave all play a part in allowing the strap to stretch and absorb the energy involved in a recovery. What is important is that by the simple nature of stretching, shock loads on recovery points are reduced, and the stored kenetic energy helps recover the vehicle. Snatch straps are typically designed to stretch by at least 20%. The more they stretch the less shock is placed on the recovery point. Winch extension straps, however, are usually made of polyester fibre and use a weave that produces minimal amounts of stretch (typically under 5%). When winching, you want little or no stretch for two reasons: a) because any stretch requires the use of more cable before the vehicle begins to move; and b) because in the event of failure of the strap or cable, less elasticity reduces the likelihood of dangerous projectiles injuring people and property. But with little or no stretch, a winch extension strap is more susceptible to damage from shock loads. So, should we use winch extension straps in conjunction with a snatch strap ? If we put safety first and the recommendations of the manufacturer, then the answer is NO.The issue is that the winch extension strap is not designed to handle shock loads. One could argue that the snatch strap would stretch and reduce any shock load on the winch extension strap (as you have stated), but the thing to keep in mind is that the minimum rated sized snatch strap is typically 8000kg and can be as high as 15,000kg, whereas winch extension straps (such as ARB's) are rated 4500kg or 8000kg. So there is a good possibility that if the forces are strong enough, the winch extension strap will be a weak link and may break, with the possibility of causing damage or injury. So with safety in mind, always use a strap for its intended use only, UNLESS no other option is available. Blue warning labels with the strap's minimum breaking strength rating and its intended use can be found sewn into the eye at one end of the strap
if you go out on your own more times than with others i would say, even though its more advanced and difficult to achieve, would be to carry three pulleys and and a 12v winch with enough straps to be able to reverse winch yourself out if needed. Not something you'll probably ever need to do but just something to think about. and yes it does work, there are a few good videos on youtube about it. the other option is to mount your winch to a hitch receiver and have a receiver hitch on the bullbar as well as the rear so you can winch from the front or back easily( cabling of some kind would obviously need to be run to the rear). Another way is, instead of a 12v winch, something like a proper heavy duty hand winch, not the easiest to operate in terms of effort required, but probably the most versatile for a solo traveler in that you only need a decent attachment point to pull from and doesn't rely on limited battery power in the case of a rollover in the middle of the nowhere..
Terrific advice, just one problem. I can here looking for advice on which brand “recovery kits” to buy for my lad and self. Now at least I know what needs to be included but still no wiser which brand & model kit to actually buy? ARB? MaxTrak? Bush ranger? Kings? BCF? George4x4 VRS Etc Also you left out an axe and an Epirb / Sat Phone.
Hi Ronny, if you have a scissor jack in the vehicle do you still see a need for having a bottle jack? We don't go serious off-roading, just touring. Great content BTW!
Have you seen “trac-grabbers”? They are rubber blocks that you can strap onto the outside of the tyre, to give you a bit of extra bite. Just wondered what you think of them, if you know them?
Graeme Yamaha that’s true. I was watching an episode with a convoy of several vehicles. I would figure if your going on some of the crazy trips they go on then it would be wise for each vehicle to have their own recovery gear. Just my opinion.
great video , one thing for solo traveler on budget if you dont have winch then hi lift jack can be your hand winch but for that you need some more chain , rope . gloves are must, not one pair i allways carry couple pairs. soft shackles are more like 2x cost then metal ones so you need just one of them no ? why have metal shackles if y ou have enough soft shackles ? just have one or another is enough. and you can make soft shackles from good rope yourself for basic must have i would add axe , you need to have axe...worst case if you dont have maxtrax you can cut down some old dead trees as put those under your wheels .
A Tirfor. One of those is far better than an electric winch as it does not cook the battery and works under water, I have pulled a ten ton truck out of a ditch with a three ton Tirfor.
One comment and one question. Comment - I seriously think a long handled shovel would be easier to use than the short handled variety. Question - is an extension strap the same as a tow strap ?
I think they're just different terms, maybe different lengths, but same physical features. They don't stretch. A recovery strap is completely different from a tow strap since it stretches like a bungee chord during the first initial impact during a vehicle to vehicle extraction. Check out Matts Recovery channel, he uses them all the time to get a run with the towing vehicle and the recovery strap stretches and the stuck vehicle pops out like Champagne cork with no damage to the drivetrain. Cheers.
We've tested recovery dampers on snatch straps under load with high speed video. They essentially don't do anything. I wouldn't bother with dampers for snatch recoveries
I think Ronny came to a similar conclusion. I am not a lawyer: but when you are standing in the dock at your trial you need to be able to say you followed all of the procedures and best advice, because even if you know some of that advice is worthless the Judge and so called 'expert witnesses' don't.
would be awesome if you could do a review on the new tred pro's. They seem much more stronger then the original ones and might be on the maxtrax level...
Hey Ronny, where is your dad and the JL Wrangler? I haven't seen him in any of your latest videos and he used to be a "regular" on your trips along with Torbins dad if I'm not mistaken.
Correction to earlier comment: I hate predictive text!!! I carry two BOG OUTs, not a 2TB hard drive. If you're not familiar with them, there is a comprehensive web site you can view. With BOG OUTS you can pull your vehicle forwards or backwards. No, I am not associated with them, but I do believe they are worthwhile. A winch maybe more convenient for a frontal recovery, but I regard the BOG OUTS as more reliable and failsafe. Yes, other gear such as recovery boards, recovery points, k.e.r.r. Rope, shovel and shackles are also on board.
Mr. Dahl: It would very wise to strongly emphasize the critical need for at least two fire extinguishers, a high capacity tire inflator, and ever so importantly, very comprehensive First Aid kits with sutures, hemostats, etc. and keep it up to date.
Not quite sure what to call it but what about a kit that converts your high lift into a polling mechanism kind of like a winch let's say if you end up snapping your cable or your winch Burns Out
@Graeme Yamaha I've been in a situation where I had to use my high lift with some straps and you can do it with straps it's just really sucks when you have to reset your strap after learning the hard way I ended up grabbing some square steel tubing couple 3/8 bolts and some 3/8 chain hooks so that way I didn't have to reset my strap it actually seem to work a lot smoother I will still say is the ranch is the best way to go and a flip-flop winch will actually get you by a long ways when you don't have either
Good gloves would be nice to have as well.
Even though we usually travel solo, we still carry a snatch strap. We may travel alone but if we need help and another vehicle comes along and offers to help, we regard it as good 4x4 manners to have our own gear to do the recovery. If any gear breaks, at least it is our gear not someone else's.
I've carried one for 25 years and never used it. And I'm sure if I did now it would probably snap!
Perfect kit... I just prefer long shovel especially to get under the car when bottomed out in sand.
I always use a long handled shovel since the doctor gave me a medical certificate to “stay away from work”. 😜😂😂👍
Everything you recommend is completely reasonable. I’m a solo runner and the solo kit you recommend is perfect.
I really like your channel. It's no BS, and you just don't throw money at everything like a lot of the other channels. The shovel in my book is one of the most important tools to have, hell if you have enough time and the energy, you can dig yourself out of most bad situations. Cheers from Canada.
First real 4wd traveler soon and i mostly plan on beach driving. There are others around where im driving but maxtrax will definitely be the top of the list now. Definitely glad i revisited this video to make me rethink of what i need first.
Worst I ever got bogged. 13 years ago.
I was by myself. Drove through what I thought was just a large puddle. Turned out to be 2 very deep wheel ruts and a solid centre.
All 4 wheels were spinning in deep liquid mud, sitting on the belly of the vehicle.
All I had was the bottle jack.
Spent nearly 6hrs jacking up one wheel at a time, shoving rocks under the wheels, giving me more clearance to put extra rocks under the jack to get more clearance to put more under the tyres and so on.
I was head to toe in mud. Couldn't see what I was doing as it was all underneath mud. I went purely by feel.
Jumped in a nearby creek to rinse off.
A high lift jack would have got me out in FAR less time.
Worst part was the road ended about 100m past where I got bogged, so I had to turn around and go through it again..... which got me bogged again!!!!! This time though I had enough rocks in the holes that I was able to just rock myself out..... with a degree of rage.
I have recovery gear now. Won't leave home without it.
Only thing I would add for solo recovery would be a “come along” or hand winch. I carry one in case I need to add tension to the rear of the vehicle while winching. For instance if the rear is trying to slide down while winching you have an adjustable pull available.
You can use a hi lift as a come along. It’s certainly not as effective but being that they both weigh a lot and take up loads of space, I’d stick with a hi lift
Thanks for all the good videos, just getting into 4wd and figuring out what I actually need for solo trips.
Best recovery gear kit video I have seen, really covers everything.
Another great video Ronny. Not really a recovery item but l think a fire extinguisher is a nessesity particularly for remote travel.
Thank you Ronny for honest suggestions. You have been a big influence on my kit. Keep up the good work. 👍🤘🇺🇸🇦🇺
Awesome video man!
Would you consider doing a video on “how to convoy”?
How the cars on the convoy should line up?
I reckon the lightest vehicle should be in front because they do less damage to the track. But there’s also a good point in putting the heaviest and most capable rig in front so it can winch up less capable cars.
Cheers, keep the awesome content! I’ve just signed your patreon
luciqueiroz just use common sense
The only other thing I can think of is a come-a-long, if you are by yourself. I carry winter gear if it’s frozen ground. Extra fuel for winter, first aid kit, and a phone or radio, and a GPS locator to call for help. Extra food & water, if you are going to desolate locations. Recovery equipment only works with a functional vehicle, don’t forget your brain, too much guts will get you killed. Personally, I travel armed, depending on the wild life I might encounter, will influence my choices. I would feel safer with someone with your experience, when traveling remote areas. Great 👍🏻 video, subscribed, now.👍🏻
Excellent video for a new guy. I have already bought a kit and some extra goodies and now, it looks like I need more. :)
The only thing I can add is a hand torch and a headlamp torch (or more). I put atleast one in my first aid kit glovebox, snake bite kit and spare wheel well etc. Recovery in the dark using a phone torch will work but might drop in in a creek, break it and it will give you one less hand to work with.🔦👍🍻🤠🇦🇺
Nice video. For wheeling in the forest... Must haves for me include gloves, head lamp, come-along (hand winch), tree strap, shovel, axe, bridle, snatch strap. Chainsaw plus axe if you have it :)
Hi my name is Scott. I'm sure there is plenty of self recovery videos out there and I saw your what would happend snatch straps, which was pretty cool by the way. But I would like to see more self recovery videos.
I throw in a cheap head torch with my recovery bag so its always ready to go when i need it and often I leave my good head torch in my swag.
Solo travel i also take a hand cable winch so i can winch backwards or put it as a side load to stop slipping further into trouble
If going with only your truck, 2 more very important things to have/do, leave a trip plan with someone, where when and when return within a reasonable amount of time........ common sense, when to not go on... turn around and know what you and your truck are capable of. great information tho!
Obviously this is an older video but I'm finding soft shackles to be so versitle I carry 4 minimum. The don't weigh much. You can connect then together to go around frames, a-arms, wheel spokes, and rollbars. Obviously not always the best recovery points but especially in the sxs world you don't have many options for recovery points.
This was really helpful as someone whos thinking of starting overland by myself
Outstanding, Ronny. I love your channel.
Hey Ronny. I think you got the pulley example backwards. Putting the pulley on the tree (fixed point) only changes the direction of the pull.
To double the pull or half the load, the pulley must be on the vehicle being recovered and the tree (fixed point) near the recovery vehicle.
If you're referring to self extraction with a winch you need 2 pulleys to accomplish that.
Basic Tool Kit - Cheap Supa Centre one seems well thought out and quality is fine.
Extra fuel can't hurt, but the best place to store it is in your tank. Fill up before you go out!
If you do carry gas cans, make sure to cycle the fuel out regularly. Filling your starving rig with bad gas in the middle of nowhere will be a difficult recovery.
Solo Travellers and the Deadman Ground Anchor. You missed the most important use in my opinion. SIGNALING MAT when all else fails. Lay it flat on the ground so “Search and Rescue” can see it. Next on my shopping list, just need to save the money.
I think its time for Ronny and Andrew SPW to be volunteered / voluntold to do another joint video, this time with the State Emergency Services SES and the Australian Royal Flying Doctors. A summary at the start that rolls up Ronny's previous advice on first aid and snake bite kits would be nice. I rather like .Jack Absalom's The Road To Survival'
@@howardp6682 I seconded that.
State Emergency Services SES and the Australian Royal Flying Doctors could tell some stories of what and what not to do. Jack Absalom is why I got into overlanding. Who needs a 4X4, old Sigma Wagon would do the trick😊 .
A shovel snatch and treds that's all you need anything beyond that is catering for a specific track or 4wd style.
For example if you do nothing but beach work get a compressor snatch and a set of treds/maxtrax and a shovel you don't need anymore than this.
Bush driving the above add a winch and extra straps.
Hardcore off roading
The above add a high lift for busted beads and extra recovery equipment extension straps etc and beers because you will be stuck a lot.
If you do snow put in chains
@Graeme Yamaha if you need more then a shovel tracks and a snatch strap on the beach tell me why?
What else do you need bar the above add a winch and extra recovery straps for the bush?
Would be interested to know
Thanks Ronnie and crew. Most important, always bring your sense on humor. LOL
I have been 4 wheeling in Botswana before and we had most of this stuff and when one of our vehicles ran out of gas we flat towed it 20 kilometers to the next town using the tow strap. We had bow shackles on the front and rear bumpers of our land cruiser and got stuck in deep sand. We used a suzuki jimny to tow it out of the sand. Man, good times. Especially when you use sticks, bones and whatever is around you to make a makeshift road to get traction. That trip lasted 16 days. We almost hit elephants and giraffes haha. Would totally do it again.
I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned, but the heavier/stronger shackle is for vehicles that are towing. You’re not just recovering the vehicle, but the GCM. 😊
Solid, sound advice without a bunch of whiz-bang gizmos and gadgets that are designed primarily to extricate cash from your pocket, not your vehicle from misfortune. Thanks for spelling it out Ronny!
I'd like to say thanks for showing the Factor 55 splicing tool and the short straps. I hadn't heard of those before. Just ordered them both for my kit!!! Awesome video as always!!!
Hi Ronny when in the High Country you need to carry a chain saw, there are always trees down and you should not drive around them. could you put a link to the new type of Snatch blocks you have there.
Jim, maxtrax and red winches do them (drifta sell the red winches version)
@@LockyourHubs4WDing Thanks
Yeah and technically not allowed in the high country... oh Parks Victoria... you've done it again!
Also a drag chain is a necessity.
@@MrFastFarmer yep I have a long chain
A high lift can be used as an emergency winch.
This is a superb roll-up of vehicle recovery necessities for different travelling situations,.with the very latest tips for new kit on the market. I will be forwarding it on.
Speaking from the Northwest US, chainsaw, last three weekends going out and the DNR has other things to do, none of that will properly move a 15 inch log that fell in the snow. Snow gone but good way to stop a weekend.
I read further comments below. It seems an extension strap (tow strap) might not be the best item if you want additional length (no winch) but you would be better having TWO snatch straps ?
However a lot of the recoveries I have watched would probably have been just as easy using a light tow rather than a snatch - there must surely be times when all that is required is just a little more oomph that could be provided by a tow rather than the snatch. I myself have been assisted out of sand with a tow and not a snatch.
Love the Paint Pen " Signage " on the Jeep.........................
Great List Ronny!
As for _needing_ a winch, if I may be so bold I'd suggest "... if you're in a hurry or want to save some labor." If you've only got a long weekend to bash around the bush and need to get back to work on Monday or something of the like, sure. If you have the time, you can do everything a winch will do and more with a simple high lift jack.
It'll cost you a lot less, is more versatile, and saves the weight of a heavy bloke hanging on the front of your bumper. With a few bits and bobs, you can winch forward, back, or any which way. It is easily maintained in the field too. Sure, it's slow as molasses but it is effective. I've followed overlanders who have traveled the back parts of South America and wilds of Asia for years without a winch, but a well used high lift got them out of every time. Now that I think about it, that may be an interesting bit of video content you might consider.
I'd put it in the category of a luxury time/work saver rather than a must-have. If you're into popping out onto challenging technical terrain on the weekends and you find yourself needing to pull yourself out every time, then I can see it, but for adventure travelers and overlanders, I'd rate a winch pretty low down the priority list, especially if you have limited funds. Others have their own priorities though, and that's all good too. I'd just like to dispel the pervasive truism that you _need_ a winch if you're going off-road. You may need the ability to winch, but an electric/hydraulic/pto winch isn't the only way to do that.
Once again, awesome list. Great video. Well scripted and edited. You did a stellar job!
if you are being chased by an incoming tide and only have the hi lift doing the work of a winch you are going to be in serious trouble
@@michaelblake4442 Agreed. That's a situation I'd have on my list too. I did say "if you're in a hurry." Although it is arguable whether one should venture into tidal flats solo and if you have other vehicles around, a shovel and snatch straps will probably get you out of the danger zone quicker than setting up a winch pull. I'm not trying to say a high lift is a perfect replacement for a powered winch. I'm just trying to encourage out of the box thinking a bit. More than one way to skin a cat.
@@sethwilliamson Yes i have been travelling solo for over 30 years now and have skun my fare share of cats, i even got my 40 series around the world in the early eighties with only a hi lift, a few shackles and some straps before moving to a Tirfor Hand winch, but these are both tools i would recommend for a young man and being in my late fifties and more cash positive i wouldn't travel solo these days without my winch. Safe travels.
@@michaelblake4442 Same to you brother. :)
Seen folk who had a winch but liked 9 inches if cable, and no line to make it reach,, nice video,
Pretty good mate, you've covered all the must have for any recovery and the extra that would help to make recovery easier. 👍 thanks for sharing.
Great video Ronny! Also choose reliable brand of recovery gears, like Miolle recovery gears. there kinetic rope is awesome! Quality rope. Was able to use the elasticity of it to safely and successfully rescue a 1-ton pickup that was high centered in deep snow. Provided D-Rings make attachment easy and secure. Also stores easy in the provided bag.
Maxtrax a total must have, solo travel or in a convoy, two sets each
Can't agree more it's always strapped to the rig
Take a shovel and a spade. If you are more than one person in the car and one is for the majority of digging the other for cramped spaces. And in a convoy something like a Burkbar
LIGHT, Head torch I think you call them. But seems like you spend a lot of time trying to get out and more if it is dark.
Headlamp*
Exhaust Jack, shovel, coupla snatchies & phonebooks
Instead of a winch I carry two BOG 2tb portable hard drive, each with their 15 metre long ropes. I also take 80 metres of boat anchor rope (2T breaking strain) for use as an extension strap and a couple of other ropes and shackles to provide a straight pull. The
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The ropes are also available to be employed as a Spanish windlass/flip flop winch, should a sideways pull be necessary, say in a rollover situation- God Forbid.
One thing Ronny. You mentioned joining a snatch strap to a winch extension strap. This shouldn't be recommended as a winch extension strap is not kenetic like a snatch strap and will not stretch. You may have only been using it to demonstrate the joining process of two straps but I wouldn't recommend anyone doing this in an actual snatch recovery scenario. A winch extension strap is to be used to create extra length required for winch recoveries only
2nd this!
Thats right. Do not join extension strap and snatch strap together. Also, if you join an extension strap to bridle or another extension strap I insert a 1 inch dowl ( about 8 inches long) instead of a magazine (your suggestion), that way its easy to undo. Simply pull dowl and it releases the knot.
As long as the extension strap/rope has a MBS in excess of the strap and they're joined properly. I don't have an issue, and have done it previously.
@Graeme Yamaha some of the best recovery techniques are devised and argued around a campfire when travelling and obviously on channels and forums like this one. Everyone's experience in a recovery situation can vary greatly, as does the terrain they find themselves in. The most important thing to consider is the safety of those involved in the recovery, as well as the vehicle's. That is why I said "recommend". It doesn't mean you shouldn't if the necessity arises and there are no other options to recover a vehicle. If you are going to offer a counter argument, it should be done in a civil and constructive manner. The tone of your reply wasn't either. Now, I will give you some FACTS: Manufacturers of recovery straps use different materials and webbing weaves to produce a strap of the correct strength, and an understanding of the differences between a snatch strap and a winch extension strap is important for safety. Snatch straps are typically manufactured from nylon webbing. The thickness, width and weave all play a part in allowing the strap to stretch and absorb the energy involved in a recovery. What is important is that by the simple nature of stretching, shock loads on recovery points are reduced, and the stored kenetic energy helps recover the vehicle. Snatch straps are typically designed to stretch by at least 20%. The more they stretch the less shock is placed on the recovery point. Winch extension straps, however, are usually made of polyester fibre and use a weave that produces minimal amounts of stretch (typically under 5%). When winching, you want little or no stretch for two reasons: a) because any stretch requires the use of more cable before the vehicle begins to move; and b) because in the event of failure of the strap or cable, less elasticity reduces the likelihood of dangerous projectiles injuring people and property. But with little or no stretch, a winch extension strap is more susceptible to damage from shock loads. So, should we use winch extension straps in conjunction with a snatch strap ? If we put safety first and the recommendations of the manufacturer, then the answer is NO.The issue is that the winch extension strap is not designed to handle shock loads. One could argue that the snatch strap would stretch and reduce any shock load on the winch extension strap (as you have stated), but the thing to keep in mind is that the minimum rated sized snatch strap is typically 8000kg and can be as high as 15,000kg, whereas winch extension straps (such as ARB's) are rated 4500kg or 8000kg. So there is a good possibility that if the forces are strong enough, the winch extension strap will be a weak link and may break, with the possibility of causing damage or injury. So with safety in mind, always use a strap for its intended use only, UNLESS no other option is available. Blue warning labels with the strap's minimum breaking strength rating and its intended use can be found sewn into the eye at one end of the strap
Really coulda used some Maxtrax yesterday up in the Uinta National Forrest. We made due with winches and snatch straps.
if you go out on your own more times than with others i would say, even though its more advanced and difficult to achieve, would be to carry three pulleys and and a 12v winch with enough straps to be able to reverse winch yourself out if needed. Not something you'll probably ever need to do but just something to think about. and yes it does work, there are a few good videos on youtube about it. the other option is to mount your winch to a hitch receiver and have a receiver hitch on the bullbar as well as the rear so you can winch from the front or back easily( cabling of some kind would obviously need to be run to the rear). Another way is, instead of a 12v winch, something like a proper heavy duty hand winch, not the easiest to operate in terms of effort required, but probably the most versatile for a solo traveler in that you only need a decent attachment point to pull from and doesn't rely on limited battery power in the case of a rollover in the middle of the nowhere..
My maxtraxs were stolen straight off the top of my ute (along with my rhino brackets and awning) AND I had them locked on with a coded lock!
Terrific advice, just one problem.
I can here looking for advice on which brand “recovery kits” to buy for my lad and self.
Now at least I know what needs to be included but still no wiser which brand & model kit to actually buy?
ARB?
MaxTrak?
Bush ranger?
Kings?
BCF?
George4x4
VRS
Etc
Also you left out an axe and an Epirb / Sat Phone.
Hi Ronny, if you have a scissor jack in the vehicle do you still see a need for having a bottle jack? We don't go serious off-roading, just touring. Great content BTW!
Great stuff, Ronny! Now I just need to decide on a jack. Either the bottle or the ARB...
Communication a radio or satellite phone just in case you’re really screwed and you’re on your own you might be able to call for help!
Nice one Ronny👍🏻
Never underestimate the trusty old Swiss Army knife and a roll of gaff a tape! ... oh and Chanel your inner Macgyver😜
Have you seen “trac-grabbers”? They are rubber blocks that you can strap onto the outside of the tyre, to give you a bit of extra bite. Just wondered what you think of them, if you know them?
Watch the previous video mate, we tried them and they are an absolute waste of time and money in our experience
Ah ok thanks I missed that one!
Watched an episode of 4WD Action Off-road and they had a spot where it took 8 max tracks to get truck and trailer through a spot.
Graeme Yamaha that’s true.
I was watching an episode with a convoy of several vehicles. I would figure if your going on some of the crazy trips they go on then it would be wise for each vehicle to have their own recovery gear.
Just my opinion.
An air compressor for re-filling the tires.
Thank you for your great help 👍
great video , one thing for solo traveler on budget if you dont have winch then hi lift jack can be your hand winch but for that you need some more chain , rope . gloves are must, not one pair i allways carry couple pairs. soft shackles are more like 2x cost then metal ones so you need just one of them no ? why have metal shackles if y ou have enough soft shackles ? just have one or another is enough.
and you can make soft shackles from good rope yourself
for basic must have i would add axe , you need to have axe...worst case if you dont have maxtrax you can cut down some old dead trees as put those under your wheels .
Extremely helpful
could you put a list in the description/ list of all the recovery kit that you have just featured please
I didn’t hear the exhaust jack, that you’ve mentioned before. Seems like it might be a good solo sand recovery item
Hi Ronny. You mentioned you only need the snatch block when using a tree for recovery, can't you use it when using the dead man as well?
Good idea; cuts the load by 50 percent on the "dead man" and reduces the chance of tugging it out of the ground.
A Tirfor. One of those is far better than an electric winch as it does not cook the battery and works under water, I have pulled a ten ton truck out of a ditch with a three ton Tirfor.
One comment and one question. Comment - I seriously think a long handled shovel would be easier to use than the short handled variety. Question - is an extension strap the same as a tow strap ?
I think they're just different terms, maybe different lengths, but same physical features. They don't stretch. A recovery strap is completely different from a tow strap since it stretches like a bungee chord during the first initial impact during a vehicle to vehicle extraction. Check out Matts Recovery channel, he uses them all the time to get a run with the towing vehicle and the recovery strap stretches and the stuck vehicle pops out like Champagne cork with no damage to the drivetrain. Cheers.
Ronnie can you talk about strap ratings for different vehicles? The MBS ratings in particular.
We've tested recovery dampers on snatch straps under load with high speed video. They essentially don't do anything. I wouldn't bother with dampers for snatch recoveries
I think Ronny came to a similar conclusion. I am not a lawyer: but when you are standing in the dock at your trial you need to be able to say you followed all of the procedures and best advice, because even if you know some of that advice is worthless the Judge and so called 'expert witnesses' don't.
@Graeme Yamaha weighted or weighted, position doesn't matter. They either get shredded (weighted) or don't do anything worthwhile (unweighted).
You missed "make a list" : write down who has to take what, not just talk with others...
As always, very descriptive and informative! Awesome videos! Keep up the great work!
very good! would you mind doing a video on how to stow the equipment on the vehicle?
To bad that arb dont make front recovery points for Jimnys
Every one should carry their own snatch strap and when you are bogged you use your own one.
Beer.... you gotta have beer
That’s for when the recovery goes good.. or for when it goes bad.
Thanks Ronny
Thanks Ronny this is very helpul!
would be awesome if you could do a review on the new tred pro's. They seem much more stronger then the original ones and might be on the maxtrax level...
Hey Ronny, where is your dad and the JL Wrangler? I haven't seen him in any of your latest videos and he used to be a "regular" on your trips along with Torbins dad if I'm not mistaken.
Can we pleas get a single vidio revew on the RHINO HIDE. I am thinking about getting a set for my 79.
How about a couple of 2x4 blocks and straps?
One thing I would add is Gloves.
Thank you for the amazing information
Nice XJ :)
Comprehensive as always
Another great video! Thanks!
Great video Ronnie!
Your missing an inflatable deflatiable balloon type thing to change your tire when you cant use a jack ive seen hummer H1 drivers use them
Liam Middleton i think u mean the air jack he mentioned it at 10:04
:Are the 4X4 recovery straps colour coded for different uses, great work
Correction to earlier comment: I hate predictive text!!!
I carry two BOG OUTs, not a 2TB hard drive. If you're not familiar with them, there is a comprehensive web site you can view.
With BOG OUTS you can pull your vehicle forwards or backwards.
No, I am not associated with them, but I do believe they are worthwhile.
A winch maybe more convenient for a frontal recovery, but I regard the BOG OUTS as more reliable and failsafe.
Yes, other gear such as recovery boards, recovery points, k.e.r.r. Rope, shovel and shackles are also on board.
Thanks Ronny. Interesting.
Hand winch could be an option?
Nice one Ronny 😎
What about handheld radios ????
Mr. Dahl: It would very wise to strongly emphasize the critical need for at least two fire extinguishers, a high capacity tire inflator, and ever so importantly, very comprehensive First Aid kits with sutures, hemostats, etc. and keep it up to date.
Not quite sure what to call it but what about a kit that converts your high lift into a polling mechanism kind of like a winch let's say if you end up snapping your cable or your winch Burns Out
@Graeme Yamaha I've been in a situation where I had to use my high lift with some straps and you can do it with straps it's just really sucks when you have to reset your strap after learning the hard way I ended up grabbing some square steel tubing couple 3/8 bolts and some 3/8 chain hooks so that way I didn't have to reset my strap it actually seem to work a lot smoother I will still say is the ranch is the best way to go and a flip-flop winch will actually get you by a long ways when you don't have either
A small tool box and a couple of lights
Can you use dyneema rope and a hi lift jack for winching rather than chains for self recovery for those of us without electric winches?
Winch anchor. Tire chains.