Yo seth, had an idea for a video. I remember jesse enkamp comparing karate to ice cream with how many flavors there are. So how about if martial arts were desserts what would they be.
Like Jesse says, Karate was once a complete martial art, its up to us to put the pieces back together. Its also really nice to see alot of really good karate fighters starting to dominate mma now!
@@Rober_2403 well of course wonderboy kinda leading the charge right now. In bellator you have oliver enkamp ( Jesse's brother) and weber almeida is currently undefeated most via first round ko. And Bruno Souza just won the LFA title to name a small handful
1. Unorthodox stance: people aren’t used to seeing the karate stance giving you an advantage 2. Mobility and agility: with a wide side stance you are much more mobile 3. Better for kicking: karate stance is just better for kicking, side stance allows you to throw faster kicks with less Telegraph from a further distance and you can safely recover from them better than a boxing stance. 4. Mastering your kicks: you kick more giving you experience with kicking in general. 5. Teaches you the outside game and when to fight inside. 6. Perfection of form for power and accuracy 7. Flexibility: karate focuses on kicking and being more acrobatic.
Alot of people dont know that Old school sport Karate was ruthless. Full contact with sweeps and limited ground and pound. I think this was the idea behind Karate Combat.
I have a strong karate background but I've been doing modern martial arts for years now (krav-maga with a lot of sparring, mma from time to time). This is one of the best videos on the topic I've come across so far. Everything is pretty accurate. The advantages are real, and they really give you a strong lead if you make up for some of the bad habits that come with tma. Thanks for putting so much time and effort into making karate great again!
Being able to switch stances mid strikes is an ability I admire from Wonderboy. You always see this from him, he uses round house kicks or side kicks to switch, he is really creative & he is becoming a more ambidextrous fighter because of this. Typically for a righty: Side Kick uses Southpaw for example, but Roundhouse Kick uses orthodox.
I trained in Goju Ryu for over 10 years. After earning my black belt I began studying Brazilian Jiujitsu and Muay Thai. Eventually did a handful of semipro fights. My karate background always served me well as a base I could fall into, but also as a way to keep opponents guessing.
I agree!! As a karateka (Wado), I’ve noticed in my martial arts training that the variety of a karateka’s kicks, our distancing, the hip rotation in our strikes and our fast footwork/reactions gives us a MAJOR advantage against a lot of other martial art styles. They often take a more grounded stance and stronger approach, which often creates slower footwork (I see this in a lot of other martial arts that focus on ‘the stronger the punch/kick the better’) and this means it’s harder for them to evade our incoming fast attacks and it’s also hard for them throw their techniques as fast as us which gives us such an upper hand. It’s awesome really.
@@SenseiSeth That is a must. Hmm.... now I want to practice it, I’ll do it when practicing kicking tonight. Anyway I’ll be on the look out for that ridgehand video.
I respectfully disagree. I actually think footwork is the wrestling of striking. The average perso can throw a crappy punch or kick but dont know the first thing ab footwork.
Agreed. Its so uncommon that people think your going to hurt yourself if you dont wrap. Then when they see your not hurting yourself at all hitting the heavy bag, they start talking about wraps make you punch harder, and they do, if you havent trained yourself to not need them yet. Ive had this argument with some boys before you see.
@@robinwilliams9970 The best way to train bare knuckle is with gloves and wrist support. hitting a bag hard bare knuckle is completly pointless. Watch any bare knuckle FC fighters train and they train with gloves, its like tellling a runner they should be doing their runs on a highway. Much more dangerous for no gain.
@@Zach-dd2jp I hurt the liniments in my left wrist in a bike accident a while back, so I trained for 6 months with that wrist wrapped and during that time it got way weaker and when I took it off the wrist would buckle and almost injure it when I would hit the makiwara and bag hard. You only get good/strong at doing what you train for.
I kickboxed for 4 years and i learned from a shotokan master and he used to teach us hook kicks, jumping roundhouse, spinning roundhouse, jumping spining hook kick, spining back kick etc. And being able to switch between definitely gave you and advantage because you are right most people throw 3 types of kicks...so i love being able to kick you just need good stamina because throwing allot of kicks can tire you out.. And full contact kickboxing requires 9 kick minimum at least when i used to train...
I remember getting my ass kicked when I sparred a Karateka back in high school at this MMA gym I went to. I'm thankful, however, for it made me realize just how effective Karate truly is
CLARK KENT IS REAL. What looks like a mild-mannered office worker with a dad-bod is really a muscles of steel, lighting fast REAL black belt in karate. I can see why you first learned karate. You're such a mellow looking fellow that you were probably a frequent target of bullies. I guess they learned fast how wrong they were. It is nice to see you using real karate form. It would be nice to see if hours of makiwara training translates into broken ribs. Is it worth developing such hardened knuckles, hands and wrists if they don't work in a real fight? I remember doing that forearm banging exercises and how painful it was. There's a UA-cam video show two black belts banging away on each other HARD - OW. Just such a block on an untrained civilian could stop a fight immediately. It's so sad to see two black belts competing in full contact and just throwing windmill arm-swinging punches at each other like two 12 year olds in a playground fight. I've gotta check out your other videos.
Every form of fighting works, but they all have, an advantage and disadvantage. No matter the style of fighting, it always depends on the practitioner. TERRANCE OUT
Perfect video for my reminder to watch Kuro Obi/Black belt, the karate movie from 2007. Just think, one day I'll have to comment about how well put together and insightful your content is without also posting about this movie recommendation.
GAHHH. It’s a crazy time for me to spend the full hour and a half on it. What if I watched the fight scenes, reacted, didn’t edit it and sent it to my discord?
If you seen a recent video from sensei Jesse Enkamp. Karate originated from Filipino martial art, when I heard that video I was surprised. But now I am seeing this video I feel thankful why I did karate and also Make Karate Complete Again.
One of the big differences I have experienced in doing karate and other traditional martial arts (I come from a kickboxing background) is that theres a lot more weird kicks that make you a little bit more difficult to deal with. Kickboxing feels like a hammer where as Karate feels like a scalpel.... the problem is that that scalpel is made of glass most of the time because it isn't pressure tested enough. I'm definitely described as being "awkward" to spar with from my kickboxing buddies just because I lot of unusual kicks they really have to deal with. It's good to be unpredictable. Of course this is all my opinion and varies depending on schools and teaching styles.
I would say punching is the wrestling of striking. Wrestling is the basis of all grappling. I don't mean that a specific style of wrestling (free, folk, greco, etc) influences all grappling. But in a broad and general sense, when you are grappling with someone you are doing some kind of wrestling at all times. And in striking, while kicks can be complicated and powerful fight enders, the core element of striking is using the hands. Kicks can be the jiujitsu of striking.
Point ten touched me in a very profound way. I sometimes have the impression people forget what martial arts are really about. It's not just about kiking someone in the face in a realistic and effective way. It's about looking cool while doing it. SPINNING ATTACKS
Are you familiar with the work of Tatsuya Naka over at Kuro Obi World. The speed and grace with which he moves in and out of his opponent's clinch range is quite lovely!
Ok man let's see where I agree with you and where i don't. Distance management : I can give this to karate because the distance management is very good , you can put multiple opponents in front of you and use some good footwork , Tae Kwon do has extreme distance management and boxing has close distance management ,muay Thai even closer striking distance management , so let's say karate gives a distance management between kicks and punches which is useful. Another good thing about karate is what you said about breaking the rhythm and sequence , this is really important for a real fighter you don't want to become predictable in a fight . Those 2 along that karate arts is a striking techniques library that has in it most of the different strikes no matter that those are unusable in fights . A karateka though must learn how to escape the bad habits of live karate training . Let me first say that Kudo is very close to MMA fighting and karatekas that fight in Kudo are legit fighters . First problem is the "no head punches " mentality that most karate arts have adopted , this creates a ton of bad habits for close distance which a boxer a kickboxer and a muay thai practitioner can take advantage of , after you close a specific distance karate start to become absolete , it's worse for Tae Kwon do but it's a problem . The other big problem kicks face is the injury problem, if you injure the hands the fight can continue with ease , if you hit the foot with an elbow or knee then the injured person will be a sitting duck unable to move and much much easier to throw . The other problem with using kicks is the fact that you impaire your balance by doing so. Using kicks in a fight is a high risk- high reward strategy , it depents on how good and talented you are at it ,it's up to you ofc to chose your fighting strategy .
I once sparred a guy who trained almost exclusively in Hawaiian Kempo and it's frustrating to do when you don't know what's going on. Now he wasn't a hybrid fighter so there were all the weaknesses mentioned in the other video (he stood side-on without having as answer for leg kicks, retreated on a straight line with his chin out, ect.), but damn if I didn't get lucky in avoiding some shots, in particular if I didn't have big ol 16oz gloves a hook kick would've connected.
5:47 it's interesting to see how style converges when it comes to comes to actual non conventionnal fighting. This stance is actually seen in Muay Boran, Traditionnal Karate and Bareknuckle Boxing. I agree with sensei Seth with the style advantage. Karate is an excellent tool and base if you learn another complementary striking style ( i e KickBoxing, Muay Thai or Boxing). You'll be able to constantly break pattern with a larger range of techniques and a better distance management. Boxing ( and kick boxing) is the art of sharpening a few weapon to the max of their power. Karate and other TMA is the art of working all your natural weapon and use it according to the situation. Another thing Karate fighters have the hability to throw strikes from the same side: for example 1, 2 and right HK while kickboxer use to work with both sides alternatively
Kicks are not always the best option I agree. But developing a very fast powerful leading leg front kick is a useful tool to pop out at an unexpected time is a very useful tool to have under your belt.
My kickboxing gym have, 1.front kick, 2.side kick, 3. hook kick, 4.roundhouse, 5. spinning side kick, 6.spinning hook kick, spinning 7.jumping hook kick and sidekick, 8. Axe kick 9jumpinh roundhouse 10. 360 round kick 11. We have somthing we Call kost, wich is like a hook kick but you hit the side of the foot insted of the hele. And we got knees and low Kicks. AS well AS meny types in does Kicks that i mention.
I do muay thai but Spar with that wider stance bouncing in and out and just throwing and getting out again and Im the ONLY one that does this and it works awesome
@@SenseiSeth lol looked up sheishin, was bit confused. Only ever took on the transfer of language, coz my teachers native tongue was not English. Only ever time it seemed relevant. Thought you where giving me a compliment in Japanese lol ... Sheishing to you to🙏
Awesome video!! I'm really interested in starting karate and I'm trying to do as much research on the different styles as possible. I was wondering if you could make a video explaining the style of karate you use since it looks extremely fascinating :) Thank you
I hope you mention that many karate styles have good grappling too... Sweeps and throws used as setups forns strike on the ground sre common to many karate styles, like jka and wkf tournaments, or many styles that come from kyokushin but still have the point style throws in them, the sabaki challenge is an example! And some of them sctually hsve even submissions, like kudo tournaments snd irikumi go... That is the advantage karate has over every striking art that doesnt grapple too
With regard to blitzing, I really like techniques like the Rolling Block to backfist sequence from Seuinchin kata to paw at my opponent's hands and guard and give them attacks to think about while setting up a heavier attack. It's something seen in several other styles with Wing Chun's chain punching or some boxers who will throw a rapid series of lighter punches and then unload with their heavy attack once they got the setup they're looking for.
According to the distant management, the footwork is very effective. The attack from long distance and from different angles. The kickbox, thai-box fighters hate this. Besides that I like the tempo reverse punch to the body (gyaku-zuki chudan) and the different types of sweeping very well. But your right, the kicks are extremly unexpected.
uhmm.... Some things you say in the video make a lot of sense, others not. Be sure I love you, just a couple of notes: 1.Kyokushin...yeah, you get this cliche with the close distance punching right, this is a lot like "patterns" and we train a lot of "pressure combos", but what we also do are low kicks, KNEE STRIkES any height round kicks, axe-kicks and a lot of front kicks. Also "spinning back kicks" and "spinning hook kicks" (which are looking often more like "spinning crescent kicks" because they are "hatchet-like" . The funny thing about your Karate-Kicking-Style compared to Kyokuhin is actually, that you can not use the most traditional basic Karate techniques, Mae Geri (Front Kick) and Mae Hiza Geri (Front Knee Strike) from your stance effective. Does not mean your fighting style is "bad", but it comes from the pointfighting-development of Karate styles like Shotokan and in some ways Taekwondo, were sideward stances and "in and out"-movement are more common. But both Karate-stance-footwork-styles have own advantages. Just wanted to point out, that kyokushins have their own style of devastating knee strikes. 2. Learning only front and round kicks in Kickboxing? If you are reffering to "Dutch Kickboxing" you may be a bit right, because round kicks and front kicks are preffered. It is a fusion of Kyokushin, Muay Thai and Boxing, so you will see less side kicks because they do not work for most fighters with their boxing combos. But it really depends on the fighter, some also train and use side kicks. Other Kickboxing styles like "American Style" have a curriculum in which you need to learn side kicks and hook kicks, especialiy because the style has a choice of rulesets, from light contact pointfigting (where most score with side kicks and hook kicks because of the range) to continous semi- to fullcontact (where most fighters score more with boxing front and round kicks).
Kinda depends on the karate style, but in my shotokan class we practiced lots of throws too... I actually practiced throws much more in karate than in bjj...
Mostly because the 2 ways to get the most points were kicks to the head and strikes on the ground... So, since whitebelts are not that good at kicking high, the easiest way to win tournaments is throws
what ever you have said makes a lot of sense but could you make a video of how to do the in and out footwork correctly(not points-based style but the efficient method)
Your thumbnail is of the late Isao Ichikawa, 10th Dan doing a jumping front kick to the face of his brother (the late) Nobuo Ichikawa. Isao and Nobuo were both students of O'sensei Kanken Toyama. Isao was an uchideschi & live-in pupil of Toyama's starting at age 6. After Toyama's death, Isao founded Doshinkan Karatedo, in Vienna, Austria. This is my tradition.
I totally agree with you just love your channel and your Karate-Do! Just keep going so i can develop on my Do by watching yours. OSS Sensei Paul Kämpf (1st degree black belt Japan Karate Do Shotokan DKV)
I feel you! Tore my right acromioclavicular ligaments in February (bad landing during a sutemi trow, both my partner and I landed on my shoulder), and the 'Rona made it so gyms had to stay closed until September where I live, where they opened for a whopping 3 weeks before closing again due to spikes in local cases
The beginning of this video sounds like what we focus on in TaeKwonDo. We love to use kicks, because our legs are the longest and strongest part of our body. The goal of self defense is to keep a distance away from your opponent. The reason we stop a sparring match after one kick to call points, is because that kick would likely finish and end the fight. For punches, at least at my school, we only call points if it's a solid punch, and not if that punch was only a touch.
Great video!!! Kicking variety helps a lot!!! Things I leaned in Shotokan helped me in boxing sparring: Distance control, timing, footwork, feinting with a blinding lead hand and a counter right cross with no tell on it. Karate-Do forever!!! Oss Sensei Seth🥋
This is a great video I love you I do feel the only thing you might not have thought about as it in advantage having a karate or a Taekwondo background is you put a lot of emphasis on flexibility and not so many Dutch kickboxers or muay thai fighters spend a lot of time working on flexibility
I love your videos, but would like to see Kung Fu (Northern Kung Fu or Southern). Your comparisons are Karate, Muay Thai, Kick Boxing, and TKD. Not WUSHU, big difference. Ive done all three (TKD, Karate, and since 1996 migrated to Kung Fu.
I started kickboxing recently I realized that I am able to parry straight punches at long and medium range using karate style blocking. But every since I started my sensei always focused on using traditional blocks but in a kumite situation. But that is it honestly, I can't counter punch them as easily. Guess it takes getting used to with boxing gloves.
The most valuable fighting advantage of learning a true traditional martial art is the physical conditioning advantage. And i'm not talking about your cardio... Well that, but also your flexibility, your muscle density, your reflexes, etc., etc. You may get got, you may get beat up bad, but odds are you're going to be able to take it without getting seriously injured. Self-Defense is about survival, not winning. Of course, I grew up on safe-space Karate, so I got beat up plenty in school... lol Edit: this is contingent on your sensei, master, coach, etc. emphasizing these things. If a teacher isn't pushing you to better yourself physically while teaching you, find a new place to train.
Kime is actually to relax during the entire technique then to use full body tension at the moment of impact. It doesn't have anything to do with pulling really
The best thing about pure combat sport training vs karate is I don't have to constantly hear how "patience, honesty and respect" will somehow make me a better fighter.
Lyoto machida did in fact come from shotokan, but shotokan is not a style that really spars much. Its very much a traditional Japanese kata, bunkai, kihon, and some kumite for the sake of doing something physical. The fact that he made his karate into a style of mma is more because he's lyoto fuckin machida. He could kick ass with jazzercise
Great video, and have to state a great name for a gym! If in charge of music, I would always have Wu-Tang on the rotation. Your video was great, and it did give me an idea that I am trying to work out now. Can you use your legs as frames? And if so, can you use them as frames while retreating from a close distance to a reset?
Maybe I'm wrong, but couldn't you just break kicks down into either some variation of a vertical, horizontal, or straight trajectory? You could also break it down to the motion of roundhouse, crescent, back kick and front kick.
Im very much of the opinion of hikite is always grabbing. If your not pulling on them don't do hikite, use a more conventional guard position overwise your leaving yourself wide open
I've never trained karate but this video makes me think my kickboxing style has the mindset for it. I trained dutch and I usually use a lead leg kick mixed with punches and rarely kick with my rear leg. And if I need a breather I'll actually post my lead foot on my partners shin or knee. It sounds weird but I made a whole system around it. But in the end I'm more of a grappler
@@SenseiSeth it's cool until it isnt but obviously skilled guys can pick holes in it. Mayday for me means I only do boxing because I trained that a lot.
Nice vid Seth you're a big inspiration of mine one of the main reasons I started my new channel (this is Telin by the way I don't know if you remember me)
Thank you for putting out these videos. I do BJJ and I have been wanting to round my game out with striking. You and Wonderboy are helping me out a ton. Do you do private classes?
these are the kicks that I know and CAN do front kick jumping front kick double jumping front kick roundhouse kick double roundhouse kick feint roundhouse (if that is a thing) kick skip roundhouse kick side kick skip- side kick the flying side kick (kind of) axe kick stretch kick crescent kick (inside and out) back kick hook kick spinning hook kick TORNADO KICK (my favorite) the one kick that I know that I can't do THE 540 The types of punches I know idk
Karate into just boxing would be a great combo correct? And blocking with elbow to elbow like a parry inside their guard would be scary right also no tape on the dude would be bad correct besides knowing he has a great chin correct? And hits like a truck
If you want to learn more about how good kicks should be, check out my course! senseiseth.teachable.com/p/higherkicks
Yo seth, had an idea for a video. I remember jesse enkamp comparing karate to ice cream with how many flavors there are. So how about if martial arts were desserts what would they be.
Better than Taekwondo?😂😂😂😂
@Jan R. Pedersen but I'm vegetarian 😳
Distance management. One of the biggest assets of karate practitioners. We in shotokan our kumite puts a huge enphasis on distance.
Truuuuth
Maai
What are the 13 kicks? A video about their greatest strength and vulnerabilities would be cool.
Good thinking!
And then something else after that will make him even MORE complete!
Like Jesse says, Karate was once a complete martial art, its up to us to put the pieces back together. Its also really nice to see alot of really good karate fighters starting to dominate mma now!
I've been out of the pool for a long time, who are these fighters you talk about? I want to see them.
@@Rober_2403 well of course wonderboy kinda leading the charge right now. In bellator you have oliver enkamp ( Jesse's brother) and weber almeida is currently undefeated most via first round ko. And Bruno Souza just won the LFA title to name a small handful
@@Rober_2403 also keep your eye out for michael claycomb
@@sliderx1897 Cool, thank you.
@@sliderx1897 Also GSP. He is a kyokushin guy.
1. Unorthodox stance: people aren’t used to seeing the karate stance giving you an advantage
2. Mobility and agility: with a wide side stance you are much more mobile
3. Better for kicking: karate stance is just better for kicking, side stance allows you to throw faster kicks with less Telegraph from a further distance and you can safely recover from them better than a boxing stance.
4. Mastering your kicks: you kick more giving you experience with kicking in general.
5. Teaches you the outside game and when to fight inside.
6. Perfection of form for power and accuracy
7. Flexibility: karate focuses on kicking and being more acrobatic.
Love it!
@@SenseiSeth did ya see the my question about the karate class i found near me
Karate is probably the one with stances average people would recognize. That and "kungfu," and "tkd."
Does karate focuses mostly on kicks?
@@junichiroyamashita no punches
Alot of people dont know that Old school sport Karate was ruthless. Full contact with sweeps and limited ground and pound. I think this was the idea behind Karate Combat.
TRUTH
I don’t think it was full contact.
NO MERCY, Sweep the leg!, Cobra Kai never dies!
@@eddard9442 lol. Strike first
@@mattyahmed9050It was full contact
I have a strong karate background but I've been doing modern martial arts for years now (krav-maga with a lot of sparring, mma from time to time). This is one of the best videos on the topic I've come across so far. Everything is pretty accurate. The advantages are real, and they really give you a strong lead if you make up for some of the bad habits that come with tma. Thanks for putting so much time and effort into making karate great again!
That’s so awesome to hear. Thanks!
Kicks are the wrestling of striking....
Hahaha BARS.. sorta
Honestly the best channel emote ive seene
@@SandBorrito lmao
Type advantage? Sensei Seth plays Pokemon confirmed.
I def used too, don’t have a console for it anymore lol
@@SenseiSeth You shall be better for it 🤣
@@SenseiSeth You're not missing much, S&S is kind of dull.
Wait for the next one.
It's quite poggers.
Hahah
Karate movement is just chef’s kiss
Truth
Being able to switch stances mid strikes is an ability I admire from Wonderboy. You always see this from him, he uses round house kicks or side kicks to switch, he is really creative & he is becoming a more ambidextrous fighter because of this. Typically for a righty: Side Kick uses Southpaw for example, but Roundhouse Kick uses orthodox.
He’s insanely talented for sure!
Karate is a 100% legit martial art. You have good content man.
Thanks brother!
@@mikemanch5009 I misread your comment. Seth is U.S Kenpo I'm very sure.
I trained in Goju Ryu for over 10 years. After earning my black belt I began studying Brazilian Jiujitsu and Muay Thai. Eventually did a handful of semipro fights. My karate background always served me well as a base I could fall into, but also as a way to keep opponents guessing.
I agree!!
As a karateka (Wado), I’ve noticed in my martial arts training that the variety of a karateka’s kicks, our distancing, the hip rotation in our strikes and our fast footwork/reactions gives us a MAJOR advantage against a lot of other martial art styles.
They often take a more grounded stance and stronger approach, which often creates slower footwork (I see this in a lot of other martial arts that focus on ‘the stronger the punch/kick the better’) and this means it’s harder for them to evade our incoming fast attacks and it’s also hard for them throw their techniques as fast as us which gives us such an upper hand. It’s awesome really.
Karate: variation of kicks
Seth: GRRR!!!! So excited!!!
Hahahaha
I admit as a Karateka(shotokan) springing a back kick or spinning hook on someone is beautiful thing.
Along with ridge hands.
Ridgehand! I keep forgetting to make a video on this
@@SenseiSeth That is a must. Hmm.... now I want to practice it, I’ll do it when practicing kicking tonight. Anyway I’ll be on the look out for that ridgehand video.
I still practice ridge hands occasionally. But usually only on a bag or in open space.
Learning Kudo, Sambo and Sanda will be the wrestling of striking!
He was talking about wrestling of striking not wrestling and striking
wow a man of quality
I learned full-comtact karate, aiki jujitsu, and currently practicing sanda. Learning the balance between earth, water, and fire.
@@Saiarts_yt Awesome!
I respectfully disagree. I actually think footwork is the wrestling of striking. The average perso can throw a crappy punch or kick but dont know the first thing ab footwork.
Punching is the kicking of grappling?
Lmao😅
Wrong cause foot work is in wrestling too
@@firefiret8 good point
Learning and getting used to punching hard without gloves or wrist support is a pretty notable one too 👌
True!!
Agreed. Its so uncommon that people think your going to hurt yourself if you dont wrap. Then when they see your not hurting yourself at all hitting the heavy bag, they start talking about wraps make you punch harder, and they do, if you havent trained yourself to not need them yet.
Ive had this argument with some boys before you see.
@@robinwilliams9970 The best way to train bare knuckle is with gloves and wrist support. hitting a bag hard bare knuckle is completly pointless. Watch any bare knuckle FC fighters train and they train with gloves, its like tellling a runner they should be doing their runs on a highway. Much more dangerous for no gain.
@@Zach-dd2jp If someone is training for an fight then yes, no point in risking it to go fight injured
@@Zach-dd2jp I hurt the liniments in my left wrist in a bike accident a while back, so I trained for 6 months with that wrist wrapped and during that time it got way weaker and when I took it off the wrist would buckle and almost injure it when I would hit the makiwara and bag hard. You only get good/strong at doing what you train for.
I kickboxed for 4 years and i learned from a shotokan master and he used to teach us hook kicks, jumping roundhouse, spinning roundhouse, jumping spining hook kick, spining back kick etc. And being able to switch between definitely gave you and advantage because you are right most people throw 3 types of kicks...so i love being able to kick you just need good stamina because throwing allot of kicks can tire you out.. And full contact kickboxing requires 9 kick minimum at least when i used to train...
That’s so fun
How come you stopped that one bag from moving when all the bags were moving, you really called him out and made himself conscious
My b, he deserved it though
I remember getting my ass kicked when I sparred a Karateka back in high school at this MMA gym I went to. I'm thankful, however, for it made me realize just how effective Karate truly is
"Nothing is ALWAYS anything" - Seth Adams 2020
(My quote for the discords tomorrow
Haha NOW I’ve made it!
Also, this quote was underrated IMO
@RED CHUCKS haha!!.. only 2.
CLARK KENT IS REAL. What looks like a mild-mannered office worker with a dad-bod is really a muscles of steel, lighting fast REAL black belt in karate. I can see why you first learned karate. You're such a mellow looking fellow that you were probably a frequent target of bullies. I guess they learned fast how wrong they were. It is nice to see you using real karate form. It would be nice to see if hours of makiwara training translates into broken ribs. Is it worth developing such hardened knuckles, hands and wrists if they don't work in a real fight? I remember doing that forearm banging exercises and how painful it was. There's a UA-cam video show two black belts banging away on each other HARD - OW. Just such a block on an untrained civilian could stop a fight immediately. It's so sad to see two black belts competing in full contact and just throwing windmill arm-swinging punches at each other like two 12 year olds in a playground fight. I've gotta check out your other videos.
Seth's videos have the energy of a really excited 8 year old who really wants to show you the Gameboy he just got.
Very similar yea
Every form of fighting works, but they all have, an advantage and disadvantage. No matter the style of fighting, it always depends on the practitioner.
TERRANCE OUT
Well, yellow bamboo
I just saw you're about to do a flying side kick from a mile away as soon as you took a couple steps back, you can call it karate senses ahaha
Hahaha SHOOT
11:41 please do a whole episode just like that 😁🙏👍
To add to kyokushin - head kick from clinch range. It's even in kata Garyu!
I LOVE this video Sir! Such a fantastic approach to this topic. Cheers!
Perfect video for my reminder to watch Kuro Obi/Black belt, the karate movie from 2007. Just think, one day I'll have to comment about how well put together and insightful your content is without also posting about this movie recommendation.
GAHHH. It’s a crazy time for me to spend the full hour and a half on it. What if I watched the fight scenes, reacted, didn’t edit it and sent it to my discord?
If you seen a recent video from sensei Jesse Enkamp. Karate originated from Filipino martial art, when I heard that video I was surprised. But now I am seeing this video I feel thankful why I did karate and also Make Karate Complete Again.
One of the big differences I have experienced in doing karate and other traditional martial arts (I come from a kickboxing background) is that theres a lot more weird kicks that make you a little bit more difficult to deal with. Kickboxing feels like a hammer where as Karate feels like a scalpel.... the problem is that that scalpel is made of glass most of the time because it isn't pressure tested enough.
I'm definitely described as being "awkward" to spar with from my kickboxing buddies just because I lot of unusual kicks they really have to deal with. It's good to be unpredictable.
Of course this is all my opinion and varies depending on schools and teaching styles.
Glass shards are quite painful if used right
Or wrong, depends on who is getting hurt
I would say punching is the wrestling of striking. Wrestling is the basis of all grappling. I don't mean that a specific style of wrestling (free, folk, greco, etc) influences all grappling. But in a broad and general sense, when you are grappling with someone you are doing some kind of wrestling at all times. And in striking, while kicks can be complicated and powerful fight enders, the core element of striking is using the hands. Kicks can be the jiujitsu of striking.
Haha that’s not too far off
Point ten touched me in a very profound way. I sometimes have the impression people forget what martial arts are really about. It's not just about kiking someone in the face in a realistic and effective way.
It's about looking cool while doing it. SPINNING ATTACKS
Spinning attack can be effective against people who don't see the line of attack.
True
Well spinning is a good trick
@2:42 sounded like "when I was throwing up"...
That happened too sometimes
karate after 2 many jaeger bombs
@@lvlupent.7334 hahahah
@@SenseiSeth You haven't truly pushed yourself, in early years of training, if you don't feel sick after a session 🤷🏻♂️
I wish I loved anything as much as Seth loves making that bag cry.
Are you familiar with the work of Tatsuya Naka over at Kuro Obi World. The speed and grace with which he moves in and out of his opponent's clinch range is quite lovely!
You need to watch the movie “Kuro Obi - Black Belt”, Sensei Tatsuya is the main actor
@@zoranilijic8406 I am aware. But I was referring to his UA-cam channel and the instructional videos he makes there.
Ok man let's see where I agree with you and where i don't.
Distance management : I can give this to karate because the distance management is very good , you can put multiple opponents in front of you and use some good footwork , Tae Kwon do has extreme distance management and boxing has close distance management ,muay Thai even closer striking distance management , so let's say karate gives a distance management between kicks and punches which is useful.
Another good thing about karate is what you said about breaking the rhythm and sequence , this is really important for a real fighter you don't want to become predictable in a fight .
Those 2 along that karate arts is a striking techniques library that has in it most of the different strikes no matter that those are unusable in fights .
A karateka though must learn how to escape the bad habits of live karate training .
Let me first say that Kudo is very close to MMA fighting and karatekas that fight in Kudo are legit fighters .
First problem is the "no head punches " mentality that most karate arts have adopted , this creates a ton of bad habits for close distance which a boxer a kickboxer and a muay thai practitioner can take advantage of , after you close a specific distance karate start to become absolete , it's worse for Tae Kwon do but it's a problem .
The other big problem kicks face is the injury problem, if you injure the hands the fight can continue with ease , if you hit the foot with an elbow or knee then the injured person will be a sitting duck unable to move and much much easier to throw .
The other problem with using kicks is the fact that you impaire your balance by doing so.
Using kicks in a fight is a high risk- high reward strategy , it depents on how good and talented you are at it ,it's up to you ofc to chose your fighting strategy .
I once sparred a guy who trained almost exclusively in Hawaiian Kempo and it's frustrating to do when you don't know what's going on. Now he wasn't a hybrid fighter so there were all the weaknesses mentioned in the other video (he stood side-on without having as answer for leg kicks, retreated on a straight line with his chin out, ect.), but damn if I didn't get lucky in avoiding some shots, in particular if I didn't have big ol 16oz gloves a hook kick would've connected.
Hook kicks will get you for aure
Spinning attacks! Love it.
You know it!! Lok
Advantage number 10 is without a doubt one of the most important insight you could give us. Also, hilarious af
5:47 it's interesting to see how style converges when it comes to comes to actual non conventionnal fighting. This stance is actually seen in Muay Boran, Traditionnal Karate and Bareknuckle Boxing.
I agree with sensei Seth with the style advantage.
Karate is an excellent tool and base if you learn another complementary striking style ( i e KickBoxing, Muay Thai or Boxing).
You'll be able to constantly break pattern with a larger range of techniques and a better distance management.
Boxing ( and kick boxing) is the art of sharpening a few weapon to the max of their power.
Karate and other TMA is the art of working all your natural weapon and use it according to the situation.
Another thing Karate fighters have the hability to throw strikes from the same side: for example 1, 2 and right HK while kickboxer use to work with both sides alternatively
Kicks are not always the best option I agree. But developing a very fast powerful leading leg front kick is a useful tool to pop out at an unexpected time is a very useful tool to have under your belt.
My kickboxing gym have,
1.front kick,
2.side kick,
3. hook kick,
4.roundhouse,
5. spinning side kick,
6.spinning hook kick, spinning 7.jumping hook kick and sidekick,
8. Axe kick
9jumpinh roundhouse
10. 360 round kick
11. We have somthing we Call kost, wich is like a hook kick but you hit the side of the foot insted of the hele.
And we got knees and low Kicks.
AS well AS meny types in does Kicks that i mention.
Nice!! That’s a great number of kicks
@@SenseiSeth sonkei
I do muay thai but Spar with that wider stance bouncing in and out and just throwing and getting out again and Im the ONLY one that does this and it works awesome
Sensei Seth turns Super Saiyan at 4:22.
I’ve been super saiyan all along!! Lol that’d be a cool edit though
Yeah.... I made that a gif. 🤣
Hahaha
Man Seth's videos have gotten so much better in the last year this one seems 10 years old lol
Your new Gi is that right. Looks Ducking Awesome. 5% ^ Badassery right there. Keep it up.
Hahaha thanks! Seishin!
@@SenseiSeth lol looked up sheishin, was bit confused. Only ever took on the transfer of language,
coz my teachers native tongue was not English. Only ever time it seemed relevant. Thought you where giving me a compliment in Japanese lol ... Sheishing to you to🙏
Man that black Dogi looks badass on Sensei Seth
Mind set. Always important. Great video.
Awesome video!! I'm really interested in starting karate and I'm trying to do as much research on the different styles as possible. I was wondering if you could make a video explaining the style of karate you use since it looks extremely fascinating :) Thank you
I hope you mention that many karate styles have good grappling too... Sweeps and throws used as setups forns strike on the ground sre common to many karate styles, like jka and wkf tournaments, or many styles that come from kyokushin but still have the point style throws in them, the sabaki challenge is an example!
And some of them sctually hsve even submissions, like kudo tournaments snd irikumi go...
That is the advantage karate has over every striking art that doesnt grapple too
Great vid, as usual lol.
I need to work on my SPINNING ATTACKA
AGHHHH
With regard to blitzing, I really like techniques like the Rolling Block to backfist sequence from Seuinchin kata to paw at my opponent's hands and guard and give them attacks to think about while setting up a heavier attack. It's something seen in several other styles with Wing Chun's chain punching or some boxers who will throw a rapid series of lighter punches and then unload with their heavy attack once they got the setup they're looking for.
4:20 MAKES ME SO EXCITED!!!!
According to the distant management, the footwork is very effective. The attack from long distance and from different angles. The kickbox, thai-box fighters hate this. Besides that I like the tempo reverse punch to the body (gyaku-zuki chudan) and the different types of sweeping very well. But your right, the kicks are extremly unexpected.
Splendid!
Finally, a video that makes sense.
👏👏👏
Rrrrr, makes it so much more exciting
uhmm....
Some things you say in the video make a lot of sense, others not.
Be sure I love you, just a couple of notes:
1.Kyokushin...yeah, you get this cliche with the close distance punching right, this is a lot like "patterns" and we train a lot of "pressure combos", but what we also do are low kicks, KNEE STRIkES any height round kicks, axe-kicks and a lot of front kicks. Also "spinning back kicks" and "spinning hook kicks" (which are looking often more like "spinning crescent kicks" because they are "hatchet-like" .
The funny thing about your Karate-Kicking-Style compared to Kyokuhin is actually, that you can not use the most traditional basic Karate techniques, Mae Geri (Front Kick) and Mae Hiza Geri (Front Knee Strike) from your stance effective. Does not mean your fighting style is "bad", but it comes from the pointfighting-development of Karate styles like Shotokan and in some ways Taekwondo, were sideward stances and "in and out"-movement are more common. But both Karate-stance-footwork-styles have own advantages.
Just wanted to point out, that kyokushins have their own style of devastating knee strikes.
2. Learning only front and round kicks in Kickboxing? If you are reffering to "Dutch Kickboxing" you may be a bit right, because round kicks and front kicks are preffered. It is a fusion of Kyokushin, Muay Thai and Boxing, so you will see less side kicks because they do not work for most fighters with their boxing combos. But it really depends on the fighter, some also train and use side kicks.
Other Kickboxing styles like "American Style" have a curriculum in which you need to learn side kicks and hook kicks, especialiy because the style has a choice of rulesets, from light contact pointfigting (where most score with side kicks and hook kicks because of the range) to continous semi- to fullcontact (where most fighters score more with boxing front and round kicks).
Kinda depends on the karate style, but in my shotokan class we practiced lots of throws too... I actually practiced throws much more in karate than in bjj...
Mostly because the 2 ways to get the most points were kicks to the head and strikes on the ground... So, since whitebelts are not that good at kicking high, the easiest way to win tournaments is throws
what ever you have said makes a lot of sense but could you make a video of how to do the in and out footwork correctly(not points-based style but the efficient method)
Your thumbnail is of the late Isao Ichikawa, 10th Dan doing a jumping front kick to the face of his brother (the late) Nobuo Ichikawa.
Isao and Nobuo were both students of O'sensei Kanken Toyama. Isao was an uchideschi & live-in pupil of Toyama's starting at age 6. After Toyama's death, Isao founded Doshinkan Karatedo, in Vienna, Austria. This is my tradition.
You are a strong Karate warior and a very nice actor.
I totally agree with you just love your channel and your Karate-Do! Just keep going so i can develop on my Do by watching yours.
OSS Sensei
Paul Kämpf (1st degree black belt Japan Karate Do Shotokan DKV)
I have managed to dislocate my hip, tear my ACL and get COVID in 3 months. I haven’t seen the dojo in so long 😫😭
Zheeeesh, get well soon!
Hope you're doing well
Hope you are healing up!! ❤️
I feel you! Tore my right acromioclavicular ligaments in February (bad landing during a sutemi trow, both my partner and I landed on my shoulder), and the 'Rona made it so gyms had to stay closed until September where I live, where they opened for a whopping 3 weeks before closing again due to spikes in local cases
How you doing now?
The beginning of this video sounds like what we focus on in TaeKwonDo.
We love to use kicks, because our legs are the longest and strongest part of our body. The goal of self defense is to keep a distance away from your opponent.
The reason we stop a sparring match after one kick to call points, is because that kick would likely finish and end the fight. For punches, at least at my school, we only call points if it's a solid punch, and not if that punch was only a touch.
Great video!!! Kicking variety helps a lot!!! Things I leaned in Shotokan helped me in boxing sparring: Distance control, timing, footwork, feinting with a blinding lead hand and a counter right cross with no tell on it. Karate-Do forever!!! Oss Sensei Seth🥋
Aye!! Those are some good two cents my friend
The end was amazing
Man I love your kicks wish I could be half way as smooth as you!
Loved this video good pointers
This is a great video I love you I do feel the only thing you might not have thought about as it in advantage having a karate or a Taekwondo background is you put a lot of emphasis on flexibility and not so many Dutch kickboxers or muay thai fighters spend a lot of time working on flexibility
I love your videos, but would like to see Kung Fu (Northern Kung Fu or Southern). Your comparisons are Karate, Muay Thai, Kick Boxing, and TKD. Not WUSHU, big difference. Ive done all three (TKD, Karate, and since 1996 migrated to Kung Fu.
Would be fun!
I think if you were to translate northern kung fu stuff into proper fighting, it would look much like karate point fighting, or just kickboxing.
I started kickboxing recently I realized that I am able to parry straight punches at long and medium range using karate style blocking. But every since I started my sensei always focused on using traditional blocks but in a kumite situation. But that is it honestly, I can't counter punch them as easily. Guess it takes getting used to with boxing gloves.
When I see Seth all I can hear is
“Leg muscles (moosalls) “
I can’t remember who this is mocking ?
Ps good vid
Hahaha not mocking anyone!!
It's more of a homage to a legend.
Sergio kung fu. Meme was created by hard2hurt
Your editing is getting better
I rlly want to learn karate, teakwondo and weapons now! 🤩
Pokemon reference? Seth is definitely a Hitmonlee.
1000%. One of my top 5 favorites
@@SenseiSeth what are you favorite pokemon
Great stuff, Sensei. Thanks for what you're doing.
The most valuable fighting advantage of learning a true traditional martial art is the physical conditioning advantage. And i'm not talking about your cardio... Well that, but also your flexibility, your muscle density, your reflexes, etc., etc. You may get got, you may get beat up bad, but odds are you're going to be able to take it without getting seriously injured. Self-Defense is about survival, not winning. Of course, I grew up on safe-space Karate, so I got beat up plenty in school... lol
Edit: this is contingent on your sensei, master, coach, etc. emphasizing these things. If a teacher isn't pushing you to better yourself physically while teaching you, find a new place to train.
I am kyokushin karateka mukyu (white belt)
I agree karate is one of complete martial arts
OSU! 🥋👊
Kime is actually to relax during the entire technique then to use full body tension at the moment of impact. It doesn't have anything to do with pulling really
The best thing about pure combat sport training vs karate is I don't have to constantly hear how "patience, honesty and respect" will somehow make me a better fighter.
You hear it because it is true.
Lyoto machida did in fact come from shotokan, but shotokan is not a style that really spars much. Its very much a traditional Japanese kata, bunkai, kihon, and some kumite for the sake of doing something physical. The fact that he made his karate into a style of mma is more because he's lyoto fuckin machida. He could kick ass with jazzercise
Great video, and have to state a great name for a gym! If in charge of music, I would always have Wu-Tang on the rotation.
Your video was great, and it did give me an idea that I am trying to work out now. Can you use your legs as frames? And if so, can you use them as frames while retreating from a close distance to a reset?
Muay Thai guys do a great job as using their legs as frames!
@@SenseiSeth I didn't even consider MT! Thanks for helping me refine my concept!
as somebody who started practicing bjj, it would be nice of you to karate my neck like that
What!!!??😂
Maybe I'm wrong, but couldn't you just break kicks down into either some variation of a vertical, horizontal, or straight trajectory? You could also break it down to the motion of roundhouse, crescent, back kick and front kick.
Karate is the father of all martial arts U can learn any martial art easily if U have karate background
Great video. Please don't karate my neck piece. I'm subbed.
Good news for you..
Im very much of the opinion of hikite is always grabbing. If your not pulling on them don't do hikite, use a more conventional guard position overwise your leaving yourself wide open
I've never trained karate but this video makes me think my kickboxing style has the mindset for it. I trained dutch and I usually use a lead leg kick mixed with punches and rarely kick with my rear leg. And if I need a breather I'll actually post my lead foot on my partners shin or knee. It sounds weird but I made a whole system around it. But in the end I'm more of a grappler
Sounds like a pretty dope system!
@@SenseiSeth it's cool until it isnt but obviously skilled guys can pick holes in it. Mayday for me means I only do boxing because I trained that a lot.
True that!
Nice vid Seth you're a big inspiration of mine one of the main reasons I started my new channel (this is Telin by the way I don't know if you remember me)
Ah that’s awesome!! Good luck!
@@SenseiSeth Thanks so much
Wing Chun boi
@@ryanliu6694 Wing Chun is good don't @ me lol
Thank you for putting out these videos. I do BJJ and I have been wanting to round my game out with striking. You and Wonderboy are helping me out a ton. Do you do private classes?
these are the kicks that I know and CAN do
front kick
jumping front kick
double jumping front kick
roundhouse kick
double roundhouse kick
feint roundhouse (if that is a thing) kick
skip roundhouse kick
side kick
skip- side kick
the flying side kick (kind of)
axe kick
stretch kick
crescent kick (inside and out)
back kick
hook kick
spinning hook kick
TORNADO KICK (my favorite)
the one kick that I know that I can't do
THE 540
The types of punches I know
idk
Those are some dope kicks! Great list!
@@SenseiSeth thanks!
Try doing a tornado kick and just waiting after the kick... U might land on both feet and that's one step closer to your goal
Yay... at least someone is not talking smack about Karate this time!
Ayee
The things mentioned about kyuokushin couldnt be more wrong. It sounds like you just want to mention the style cos its so widely known
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i like how karate guys can do very close headkicks
Karate into just boxing would be a great combo correct? And blocking with elbow to elbow like a parry inside their guard would be scary right also no tape on the dude would be bad correct besides knowing he has a great chin correct? And hits like a truck