New to the channel, so I don't know if you've got this later but... I like to put some fighters on my stations to protect my sector... I also only transfer over 6 shuttles per squad and produce the rest at the station. In case they loose some to raids or something...
Is the hiring of crew in the build menu like that a mod or is that just because it's a station? Or is it because it's a thing that needs several hundred crewman? I'm still very new to the game so I haven't seen those puzzle piece buttons before.
It only can have 20 shuttles max. I just dumped them all when I was doing the video. Sorry about the confusion. I took the other 30 ond distributed them to other stations.
Some update + tips : Don't use cargo shuttles, factories can directly buy ingredients from other stations *within docking range* , for this it needs a captain, transporter upgrade, transporter block, trading system. To bring them at docking range you can either : 1. extend the building 2. move them with force turrets 3. use more transporter upgrades (a combination of 1+2+3 is the best for multiple factories) Since your factory has a captain you just have to order him to buy/sell stuff from the galaxy map (create a loop).
I have an issue with my AI captains stopping their looped commands when it comes to trading, even if the criteria are met. Does that impact this type of thing too?
Lol HOW do you move a fking asteroid base? I had like 320 pull power and couldnt even budge by 980m ton asteroid. I couldnt even get behind it and push it with my ship. My ship just kept sliding off it.
@@shrikegaming9765 When building asteroid bases, do we even need to keep the asteroid? I was deleting portions off it, leaving me to wonder, could I just simply go into creative, build a station template and over ride my stations with it? I've been wanting to do that, make my stations uniquely my own, instead of this hodgepodge, stick stuff where I think it fits kinda thing ive got now.
10:33 - some computerworld person worked hard to become high ranking officer on Olympic space ship, but that one day out of blue comes order form super higher ups that you are now transferred to coal mine to manage dirty miners. Hope computerworld person won't sabotage your mine.
You speak way to much stick to the point 29 min video that could have been 10 min easy all the hmmm and not needed comment got me to quit before finishing the video
Slightly off topic, but I notice in the background you have messages of rep increases and money. I assume that these are from AI trading, and I cannot for the life of me find a practical way to make that work on its own. I guess does that come into play once you have factories you can goods from at cost?
Even just asteroids or factories selling to npc ships will provide the money and rep increases to the faction of ship that spawns and buys, or is simulated to in the background
@@TheSmallChap That makes total sense. I guess I never noticed that! I always figured that was from my trading ships (when my AI trading ships aren't ignoring orders that is) Thanks for the answer
Using cargo shuttles between stations is really convenient, but SUPER slow. They will only use 20 shuttles at a time so there's no point putting more than that on a station, and they only carry 1 good each. They are easily the biggest bottleneck and I can't see a reason to upgrade stations since they will never be able to get supplies fast enough. Only alternative I know of is cargo ships, which are MUCH more expensive to upkeep and each require a trading system.
or you can bring your factories within docking range and give them captains > orders to loop buy/sell "within docking range" => use force turrets/transporter upgrades
6:20 25k "pieces" times the volume of the good. exmpl: noble mine total 25k (0,5 volume * 2 gold/platinum * 25k ammount of goods you want to store) ore mine total 50k (2 volume * 1 ore * 25k ammount of goods you want to store)
I'd be interested to learn more about the tug - I know it uses force turrets but I've never found them to be effective. How powerful do they need to be to do what you do, and how are they properly used? I must be doing something wrong, because I have an exotic one that doesn't even budge a small asteroid.
33 Mega Newtons. I use six of them to pull a asteroid. You won't find those on a drop, they have to be made a turret factory at the center of the galaxy.
Does the scrap metal factory require some raw material to buy in order to make scrap metal or is it just spontaneously generated like my water factory?
Ive built a coal mine/scarp meteal trader with,ability to make there own shuttles and such but for some reason even after delivering a squad theyre all greyed out so o can't make more shuttles and not sure if maybe i just need more shuttles so they're not all out at once.
@@shrikegaming9765 i actually messed with it for a while and literally the time old,trick or turning it off and on e.g the ship to and they became white again so greyed shuttles are deployed. Thank you for the vids they help alot i had no idea where to start. But now im stuck with the fact that the game needs more development in faction management a little to much micro management and also kinda sad cause i spent an hr or so making a nice defense staion and relized no attacks will happen unless your in the sector haha.
@@specrtre. The defense station probably wont be a waste, though. I use them every time for multiple stations. It's a lot of investment of money and material. I am working on another vid on this subject with the changes the game has had. Hopefully it will help with this issue.
You can use assembly blocks to build fighters very fast depending on material, under a minute for the low end ones. Enough block let's you build 12 different fighter designs at once.
@@ripperman25. Ahh... I thought we were talking fighters. My bad, yes blocks on factories increases production. My body armor factory has something like 50k production and kicks them out very fast.
@@shrikegaming9765 you really shoud have mentioned it in videos, theres a lot of missinformation on web that there is cap by 25% or that it doesnt help at all as says wiki itself. i actually thought that my first factory (fusion generator factory) was a waste of money untill i placed assembly blocks on it, but i still cant say how much it helps exactly as i need to go back home before i check it but difference was dramatic. i had 2 production lines, when i slapped assembly block worth 20 mil credits and it started to add new lines, ive seen at least 10 but didnt wait to see how many will it be as i had to go out. i quess its really important tip on making stations, and especially profitable ones.
There is a note on the wiki: "Stations cannot be founded if they are closer than 4.25 km from another station. However, after founding, the station can be extended in build mode so that it is closer to another station. This is useful when you want to install trading and transporter System Upgrades in the station to trade with another stations, for example to supply factory with ingredients or sell products automatically without using cargo shuttle fighters." Have you tried shuttle-less logistics? Can it be automated if done this way?
@@shrikegaming9765 I'd really appreciate. I've played Avorion several big releases ago and I'm very curious about recent quality-of-life upgrades related to industry building. When I played I really hoped to have production chain possibilities similar to X3 series but that was not the case.
I've been trying to set this up for a while, but have never been able to find a sector with more than one claimable asteroid in it that wasn't already taken.
@@shrikegaming9765 Thanks for the reply man, I appreciate it. I've been able to get some chains up and running finally, but since recent updates changed the trading system, only my steel factories are making money. everything else is losing - bad. And by bad, I mean 50mill in 30 min bad. Do I need to start over with a new save?
@@shrikegaming9765 When you say "move" do you mean scrap them and find new asteroids, or is there a way to actually move them? Sorry for all the questions.
best, really ONLY channel on youtube for avorion
Thanks, should have your video up tonight on automation
He is THE largest english speaking avorion youtuber.
New to the channel, so I don't know if you've got this later but...
I like to put some fighters on my stations to protect my sector...
I also only transfer over 6 shuttles per squad and produce the rest at the station. In case they loose some to raids or something...
I use fighters as well.
if you right click on cargo shuttles on the right they will auto move to the left.
Is the hiring of crew in the build menu like that a mod or is that just because it's a station? Or is it because it's a thing that needs several hundred crewman? I'm still very new to the game so I haven't seen those puzzle piece buttons before.
Its because it's a station. Any mine or station will have one.
Do you really need 50 cargo haulers per station? Is there no thought to the correct ratios?
It only can have 20 shuttles max. I just dumped them all when I was doing the video. Sorry about the confusion. I took the other 30 ond distributed them to other stations.
Some update + tips :
Don't use cargo shuttles, factories can directly buy ingredients from other stations *within docking range* , for this it needs a captain, transporter upgrade, transporter block, trading system.
To bring them at docking range you can either :
1. extend the building
2. move them with force turrets
3. use more transporter upgrades (a combination of 1+2+3 is the best for multiple factories)
Since your factory has a captain you just have to order him to buy/sell stuff from the galaxy map (create a loop).
I have an issue with my AI captains stopping their looped commands when it comes to trading, even if the criteria are met. Does that impact this type of thing too?
Lol HOW do you move a fking asteroid base? I had like 320 pull power and couldnt even budge by 980m ton asteroid. I couldnt even get behind it and push it with my ship. My ship just kept sliding off it.
Go into the build and downsize the asteroid, make it really small. Then turn the collision off and move the small asteroid.
@@shrikegaming9765 When building asteroid bases, do we even need to keep the asteroid? I was deleting portions off it, leaving me to wonder, could I just simply go into creative, build a station template and over ride my stations with it? I've been wanting to do that, make my stations uniquely my own, instead of this hodgepodge, stick stuff where I think it fits kinda thing ive got now.
@@CMDRFandragon. You definitely can. I like to use the asteroid as a base model because of the huge HP pool you get with a small amount of material.
10:33 - some computerworld person worked hard to become high ranking officer on Olympic space ship, but that one day out of blue comes order form super higher ups that you are now transferred to coal mine to manage dirty miners.
Hope computerworld person won't sabotage your mine.
You speak way to much stick to the point 29 min video that could have been 10 min easy all the hmmm and not needed comment got me to quit before finishing the video
i dont care.
Slightly off topic, but I notice in the background you have messages of rep increases and money. I assume that these are from AI trading, and I cannot for the life of me find a practical way to make that work on its own. I guess does that come into play once you have factories you can goods from at cost?
Even just asteroids or factories selling to npc ships will provide the money and rep increases to the faction of ship that spawns and buys, or is simulated to in the background
@@TheSmallChap That makes total sense. I guess I never noticed that! I always figured that was from my trading ships (when my AI trading ships aren't ignoring orders that is)
Thanks for the answer
Yeah, what small chap said.....lol
Using cargo shuttles between stations is really convenient, but SUPER slow. They will only use 20 shuttles at a time so there's no point putting more than that on a station, and they only carry 1 good each. They are easily the biggest bottleneck and I can't see a reason to upgrade stations since they will never be able to get supplies fast enough. Only alternative I know of is cargo ships, which are MUCH more expensive to upkeep and each require a trading system.
or you can bring your factories within docking range and give them captains > orders to loop buy/sell
"within docking range" => use force turrets/transporter upgrades
@@Paolini_18 How does Force Turret fit into this ? It's not just needing transporter to move goods ?
Nice channel for Avorion. GJ & GL for channel. From Belarus.
Thanks for watching.
6:20 25k "pieces" times the volume of the good. exmpl:
noble mine total 25k (0,5 volume * 2 gold/platinum * 25k ammount of goods you want to store)
ore mine total 50k (2 volume * 1 ore * 25k ammount of goods you want to store)
good point ,I didnt mention it.
Great vidoes! new updates for this game are making some nice QoL changes!
Your channel, like this game, needs more traffic, I'd love if you did a video on fleet management and issuing commands to ships
Thanks for watching.
FR, This game is very underappreciated,
It is basically No Man's Sky+ Star citizens but without the scam at an indie price
I'd be interested to learn more about the tug - I know it uses force turrets but I've never found them to be effective. How powerful do they need to be to do what you do, and how are they properly used? I must be doing something wrong, because I have an exotic one that doesn't even budge a small asteroid.
33 Mega Newtons. I use six of them to pull a asteroid. You won't find those on a drop, they have to be made a turret factory at the center of the galaxy.
Does the scrap metal factory require some raw material to buy in order to make scrap metal or is it just spontaneously generated like my water factory?
It just generates
Great videos! Is there any advantages in using alliance in singleplayer?
No not really, nothing that really breaks gameplay. Even in a alliance you can still play as you.
Alliance in single player does nothing for you unless you in multiplayer server
Ive built a coal mine/scarp meteal trader with,ability to make there own shuttles and such but for some reason even after delivering a squad theyre all greyed out so o can't make more shuttles and not sure if maybe i just need more shuttles so they're not all out at once.
I think you can only use a few, I am still not sure with the greyed out ones are, no pilot's maybe?
@@shrikegaming9765 i actually messed with it for a while and literally the time old,trick or turning it off and on e.g the ship to and they became white again so greyed shuttles are deployed. Thank you for the vids they help alot i had no idea where to start. But now im stuck with the fact that the game needs more development in faction management a little to much micro management and also kinda sad cause i spent an hr or so making a nice defense staion and relized no attacks will happen unless your in the sector haha.
@@specrtre. The defense station probably wont be a waste, though. I use them every time for multiple stations. It's a lot of investment of money and material. I am working on another vid on this subject with the changes the game has had. Hopefully it will help with this issue.
@@shrikegaming9765 cool cant wait to see it thanks for the replies and vids enjoy the weekend.
@@specrtre .. you too
You had to select "Fetch goods" and set the station to get the goods from, but ye that also worked
This game would make such an amazing MMO,
I was under the impression that assembly blocks help with station production. As in goods, not fighters.
You can use assembly blocks to build fighters very fast depending on material, under a minute for the low end ones. Enough block let's you build 12 different fighter designs at once.
@@shrikegaming9765 no no, according to forum posts, adding assembly blocks can add up to about 25% production time to say like steel plates.
@@ripperman25. Ahh... I thought we were talking fighters. My bad, yes blocks on factories increases production. My body armor factory has something like 50k production and kicks them out very fast.
@@shrikegaming9765 you really shoud have mentioned it in videos, theres a lot of missinformation on web that there is cap by 25% or that it doesnt help at all as says wiki itself. i actually thought that my first factory (fusion generator factory) was a waste of money untill i placed assembly blocks on it, but i still cant say how much it helps exactly as i need to go back home before i check it but difference was dramatic. i had 2 production lines, when i slapped assembly block worth 20 mil credits and it started to add new lines, ive seen at least 10 but didnt wait to see how many will it be as i had to go out. i quess its really important tip on making stations, and especially profitable ones.
FORCE turrets. I can't seem to get them to work. Could you do a vid on force turrets and how to move stuff?
Is there any thing to mind about the location of players factory？
I just did a video on it. Watch for the demand using a trading system.
@@shrikegaming9765 THX. Really few guidelines about this game on UA-cam, and you are the best.
@@ZWang-gf7vi thanks for watching.
There is a note on the wiki: "Stations cannot be founded if they are closer than 4.25 km from another station. However, after founding, the station can be extended in build mode so that it is closer to another station. This is useful when you want to install trading and transporter System Upgrades in the station to trade with another stations, for example to supply factory with ingredients or sell products automatically without using cargo shuttle fighters." Have you tried shuttle-less logistics? Can it be automated if done this way?
I have never tried, I will look into it and see if I can make it work.
@@shrikegaming9765 I'd really appreciate. I've played Avorion several big releases ago and I'm very curious about recent quality-of-life upgrades related to industry building. When I played I really hoped to have production chain possibilities similar to X3 series but that was not the case.
I didn't have any luck, it didnt seem to want to transport. I will play with it some more.
@@shrikegaming9765 That's a shame. Thanks for testing! Anyway, 1.0 improvements look very neat and worth another immediate playthrough!
You probably missed to add Captains to the factories, and maybe they weren't at docking range
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I've been trying to set this up for a while, but have never been able to find a sector with more than one claimable asteroid in it that wasn't already taken.
You usually only find multiple asteroids in the yellow systems.
@@shrikegaming9765 Thanks for the reply man, I appreciate it. I've been able to get some chains up and running finally, but since recent updates changed the trading system, only my steel factories are making money. everything else is losing - bad. And by bad, I mean 50mill in 30 min bad. Do I need to start over with a new save?
@@roostergaming8549. More likely just move everything to a new location. Kinda sucks, I am in the process of moving alot of stations.
@@shrikegaming9765 When you say "move" do you mean scrap them and find new asteroids, or is there a way to actually move them? Sorry for all the questions.
@@roostergaming8549. I would leave the mine but move the steel factory. I got a video coming on this.
If I find a wreckage station can I send people over to take it over and repair it or do i just salvage the thing?
If its wrecked you can only salvage it.
Can you put the ships in the steam workshop
so there's no way to automate factory chains across sectors? there's only so many mine asteroids in one place...
You can, I am just having trouble with the chain commands. Still trying to figure why they break . Working on trying to figure it out.
My hero.
Is there a way to get your designs?
I have them on steam, but they are private.
Add me on steam. Z3m1
@@shrikegaming9765 Okay I did, I hope I found the right one.
@@Swateyy I am planning on making them public. I just have to clean them up a bit...lol
@@shrikegaming9765 Lol no worries, I just need some inspiration. Everytime I build a ship its not really good even tho I have trinium now xD
Thank you for the tutorial, but the tutorial could have been 5 minutes long.