Can you install a TV above a Fireplace? (Fact or Fiction?)
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In this video we are going to explore whether or not you can install a tv above a fireplace. Most people feel that you cannot put a tv above a fireplace because the wall will simply be too hot. Which in some cases can be true. We are going to look into 2 different options for install that will allow a tv above a fireplace. The first is, you simply have the tv high above the fireplace opening. Usually you want the wall no hotter than 120 degrees. So one simple solution is to install tv at a higher point on the wall. Naturally the further away from the fireplace that you are, the cooler the wall is going to be. The problem with this is, most people don't want the tv that high on the wall as it makes tv watching unenjoyable.
Thankfully there is a second solution, a lot of fireplace manufactures have come out with technology called a cool wall kit. What does this mean? Well they are vents off the top of the fireplace, that go in behind the tv. You then have a heat release above the tv. Where the extra heat comes out of the heat release. This allows for wall temperatures to be much cooler! Usually an executable distance will be about 6"-12" inches or so. This is a great solution to the problem of having to mount a tv too high. There is one down side however. Some people will not like the visual effect that the cool wall heat release has for the desired look the homeowner is going for.
So there are a few solutions! Hope that helps!!
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My 64" Samsung plasma tv (which tend to run hot) has been above my wood burning fireplace for 8 years this month in my home in Rochester (built in 1924). I use my fireplace 4 to 5 nights per week all winter long and typically have pretty large fires. TV works as good as the day it was mounted there.
good to know
Awesome … very good info , You know why you are doing
How high did you mount it?
@@Vancouversour The top of my mantle is 55 inches from the floor. The bottom edge of the TV is 3 inches above the mantle.
They should have included mounting Mantels as a heat shield between the two.
*Very easy to set up and use, attractive but be sure you understand the height--it's not tall. The heat is not overwhelming, but steady and pleasant fireplace **fireplace.homes** . It's quiet, too. I like the possibility of easily moving it from room to room in the event we want supplemental heat elsewhere. Definitely a good buy.*
thanks
Thanks.. what about installing a sound bar?
Yeah... this is my issue as well!
Sony recommends 104. You're in the 200's. You're video is what I needed to know. I see so many people doing their own and making HUGE mistakes. I did see one fellow who installed a heat alarm to shut everything down if the temp got too high. Others with side vents and access panels in case anything went wrong. Thank you for posting.
thanks for watching!
How do you miss the option of using a mantle to block the heat coming off of the fireplace to the tv?
mantels still aren't ideal, and if you are using a wood mantel you will still have issues with your height above a fireplace
Thanks for the info........looks like I need to check the wall temp above fireplace before committing to anything.
Yes you do
thanks for the informative videos. I'm designing a bump out wall on a covered deck to include a ventless gas fireplace with a TV above. The TV will be recessed ~ 12" into the bump out to protect the TV during fireplace operation. TV would be on articulating arm to pull out/angle down for viewing. Hoping this will help extend the life of the TV but I realize that any "non-outdoor" TV operated outdoors won't last too long due to humidity and dust.
yeah outdoors is a whole different animal
I need help. I'm looking for a direct vent system and 2k is my budget. Maybe a little more
What was the model of the 2nd fireplace. And this video is 2 years old. So what's your most updated version of this 2nd fireplace that uses the vent system above the tv.
Montigo distinction. Check this one out in Trevors office ua-cam.com/video/yvHqKiiXCS4/v-deo.html
@@embersliving What sizes do they come in. And what price is size.
Afire fireplace with water vapour how high above it with TV would you recommend, looking to sit it inside wall like these but no glass on front
Thats a good one im not exactly sure if it will effect the TV or not.
On the vents on a smart TV not including above a fireplace just regular wall event for the fireplace where are they located on a Smart TV Samsung Smart TV
nice
One thing I am interested in but can't find info on is when you want to recess a wall above a linear fireplace ? How that works with the venting behind and if has cool wall as well ? Any linear have rear venting to give more ability to do this
Very little rear vent options. You probably can, but not more then 4” or so
How close would you recommend to install a 65” or 70” tv above a electric fire place ?
6" you could do with electric
Re heat release method …. The cables and sometimes components are in the wall when people make an extended wall with doors on the sides. If heat rises inside the wall wouldn’t that be an issue?
never had that problem
How about a mantle in place would make the temp lower?
it would help
I always thought placing a tv above a fireplace looked a bit off... because of the angle...I always had my tv almost eye level because it's the best angle...having it too high in the ceiling above a fireplace just seems that it will strain your eyes and neck...but of course if you have a wide fireplace like the one in the video should be ok...
good point
Thank you. Excellent video
Glad it was helpful!
Great topic, thanks for posting. Are the cool wall units only necessary for gas fireplaces? I assumed electric would be much cooler. Can you please show or share what the temp reading would be 6” above one of the electric fireplaces with 220 wiring? I’m hoping I can install one near my center channel speaker and TV. Thanks.
T T yeah we can do a video on that. You won’t have any issues above electric however. Not nearly the same heat output. I would say 6” above! Thanks for watching! Give thumbs up to video if you can!
Have had a TV on top of my 34,000 BTU gas fireplace for the last 15 years. Never had an issue. I use the fireplace to heat all winter long. You will be fine.
@@RJ-zb2pg Not all gas fireplaces are the same. Heck not all wood burning fireplaces are the same. This video is not nearly as comprehensive as it could or should be.
Great video thanks!
Glad you liked it!
If you have a heat release above the tv is there a height limit from the release if it is into the room? I have 22Foot walls and want to build a stone venner firelplace with Tv above fireplace
not usually, normally you cannot install it closer then 6" to the ceiling
Thanks for making this video. Are you able to install an electrical outlet and hide wires behind the wall with a cool wall kit? Is there any concern with the heat melting any of the electrical?
yes you can. Home Depot sells some high temp conduit for something like that
I am running 76 degrees on wall. fire is burning at 240.. brick and mantle must help.. TV going up!! whohhoooo
Nice!!
I'm installing a Probuilder 54" Linear fireplace that I've seen in your videos. Without the venting system how close would you install a TV above that fireplace?
just flipped through the manual for you, they dont give any specs for that if your not using the cool wall. Manual does say, 39" is the minimum mantel height from the bottom of the unit,. Hope that helps! Please give this video a thumbs up and subscribe! Let us know if you have any other questions
LOL - I run an old Timberline fireplace insert.(the big one) and it will run you out of the room at times..... My Flat screen has been above it and working normally for over a decade.
Unless you enjoy sitting at the first row in movie theaters, the center of the TV should be right above eye level when sitting.
Above a fireplace is the worst possible place you could mount a TV. Eyes and neck strained, pupils going crazy because of the bright flame, image being like shit because of the angle...
I don't know who started this idea in US but you're doing it all wrong.
You're paying for a high end TV only to have a crappy image that gives you headache by stretching to look at.
hmm
Back in the ole days you fired up the Tube TV to heat the room!
nice!
Where do you guys located
Westminster, CO
86" LG on wall above my massive open wood fireplace, dosent get hot as the mantle protrudes more than the TV.
nice
Is it possible or safe to put a bio ethanol fireplace under the TV but the fire Place is not built in to the wall is just mounted? There isn't much about those types online
yeah we stopped carrying them years ago due to too many liability issues, so I dont know the answer to your question unfortunately
@@embersliving
For a electric fireplace recessed how inches below the tv and above the ground?
Hi, Our fireplace wall is in large ceramic tiles / concrete look. Are they heat conductor ? Our ceiling is 11,5 feet high. The TV is at 4'4" from the floor and 2' high from the fireplace glass. Can we put a mantel / shelve to stop the heat from getting to the TV ? If yes, what would be the depth of the mantel.
WE wanted put an old barn shelf 7' 1/2 " depth x 57 wide. Our TV is 48 " wide. Thanks to get back to us.
That will depend on your fireplace specs. So you may not be able to get a wood mantle that close to the fireplace
Very informative vid
Glad you think so!
I have a 75 inch tv what do you recommend for the size of an electric fireplace?
at least 74" or bigger
what about choosing an electric fireplace that does a better job emitting IR heat instead of heating the wall.
you could do that, however electrics dont heat as well as gas units
Can you put an electric fireplace wall mounted outside of the wall below tv giving heat out from the top front?
yes no problem!
What about the traditional fireplace with a mantle where the TV is 4inches above the mantle?
hmm depends on the model
Would I be okay installing a tv above an electric fireplace? Bottom of tv will likely be two feet above the fireplace. It’s a Napoleon 60 inch entice wall mount electric fireplace
yeah electrics are no problem
With the one were you are talking about the heat and the tv above fire place. May 1st one and we're Daniel was standing
oh the Montigo Distinction?
Is this video electric or gas fireplaces for TV mounts with fireplaces??
this is a video for gas models
@@embersliving do you have the model number for the fire place used on the video
@@angelf9800 That’s the same question I had on my mind. I saw the fireplace and was hoping he’d let us know what model the fireplace was because it looks so nice to me and I’m shopping for one. I also couldn’t tell by looking at the list on the wall behind him because he wasn’t close enough. I wish he had said the name. To be honest, it looks like a Napoleon Vector LV74N model or Napoleon Luxuria to me because I have been shopping around so I’ve seen a lot, but I can’t be 100% sure due to the included accessories on the one in the video. I’ve seen them without the accessories. The fireplace accessories really made the whole thing look so nice ✨ 🔥 ✨. I’m going to do more research on this myself to find the model.
Can a fire place install insert in the wall or the wall need to be extended out to make room for fire place
like a regular 2x4 wall?
Yes
You cannot use in infrared thermometer in the way demonstrated here. The built-in laser is very deceptive. They typically have about a 10:1 distance-spot ratio. Meaning if you are standing out 8 feet back from the wall in the video, you're measuring a "spot" on the wall just smaller than 1 foot. The laser dot is only representative of the center of the measuring zone or "spot". So, for example, you measured over 200F at 6" above the fireplace. Obviously the surface of the wall is not 200F. But part of your big measuring "spot" was the fire itself, throwing off your reading. To use an infrared thermometer, you need to stand much closer and basically forget about the laser. Honestly manufacturer's shouldn't have even included the laser because that leads to misconception of how they measure, and subsequently, their misuse. Nobody needs laser precision when aiming a gun with a 10:1 ratio so there's really no reason for the laser.
But I'm still learning a lot about fireplaces. Just got municipal natural gas and looking for primary heat from a fireplace. So far I'm looking at direct vent and ceramic glass front. My house doesn't have ductwork or a chimney, and I won't be adding one.
What if the fireplaces are flueless?
You should be good. I would call our store and ask a certified person though
How about showing us options with different type of chimneys. 🤷🏽♀️
Ill put it on our video list.
What model is the 1st fireplace in the video?
Montigo prodigy
Where do people put the cable box when tv is above fireplace or mantle?
you can do high temp conduit
Is there a shield or insulator that can block the heat from the wall on the fireplaces that release heat forward in the case that you want to heat the room more efficiently? How much less do the vented fire places heat the room?
you could do a non combustible mantel or something
Hello, how close to the top of the Linear Fireplace can you place a Non-Combustible Mantel? 6" or 12"? Thank you.@@embersliving
Me encantaria comprar una estufa de estas pero vivo en barcelona España y no se como hacerlo🤷♂️😃
thanks
Thank you for making this video. Do I need to take the same precautions with an electric fireplace? Also, what type of contractor would I call to install a vent to prevent TV damage?
HawkEy.es Consulting no there is no need for electric
Thanks for this thorough explanation. Regarding the heat issue, if the linear front vent fireplace is built into a wood entertainment cabinet are there still heat concerns for a TV above the fireplace as long as the manufacturer specified clearances are adhered to? Thanks.
depends on the model, but you cant put a vent into a combustible area usually
What's the dimensions on the vent free that you are demo
which one are you referring to?
I have a gas fire place with a mantle. Will putting a tv above be okay?
that depends on the dimensions
I just did this with my 55”. But I didn’t mount it. I sat it on the mantle above the fireplace. Messed my TV up. Now I have to buy another one. 🤦🏾♂️
What about putting a TV above a wood burning insert? Can you put a cooling system on those? What if the chimney is made purely out of rocks?
no nothing really for wood burners
So technically you can’t hang a tv above all fireplaces…
Actually, 18" for a wood mantel for most inserts. So a TV, probably 24" to 30" above the insert shouldn't be a problem as most inserts are on the ground of the fireplace.
What impact does a "concrete" on non combustible mantel have on these calculations??
If your fireplace is vented correctly the wall is not getting hot, I'm not sure why he is doing this video and standing that far back proves it. that ir thermometer is a cone so the further back you stand there larger the area it catches, he is clearly reading part of the glass, the wall is not 200° or 140 at that he literally touches the wall he just said was 200
Thanks for watching!
Having a tv over a fireplace just looks and feels tacky to me
What it looks great!!
You probably don't have a fire place lol. It is the ones without the luxury who think things don't look good
@nodaysoff2005 it's a fireplace!!! Even mobile home comes with them now !!!
The wall's not too hot but Danielle is. LOL
ill pass that along
We have a fluless fire where the vent is at the top going up. The fire heater is 32 inches across with glass front Would it be safe to mount a 55 inch tv ?
My father in law has a clip on the side of his tv holding the plasma screen together after the fireplace was left on 😅 anyone know how to fix heat damage?
not really
What if it doesn't have stud
hmm thats tricky
I know this might sound dumb, but where does all the equipment go, such as the sound bar, the cable box, etc???
you can hang the sounder on the wall like normal, Home Depot does sell high temp conduit for your wires
What about with a wood burning fireplace?
there isnt a good solution for that
@@embersliving Ahh! Thank you for replying though. I appreciate it.
I don't really understand the reasoning behind this? You find some TV's have their operating temperatures range as 32 °F - 104 °F (and ranges differ between TV's so please check). So that doesn't mean its ok to put the TV in a 120 °F range? Having the TV outside the recommended range risks it failing completely. Also, even if you find a spot for the TV where the operating temperature is at 104 °F, its not recommended you do so, in fact its best practice to operate at room temperate which can be considered to be around 68 °F. If you do put it in an 104 °F environment (or top of the recommended range) I would argue that it is risky as temperatures can flucuate which still puts your TV at risk. The TV may not blow up or anything and you may be fooled to thinking everything is fine, but be cautious that you are secretly degrading the TV and therefore decrease longevity of the product.
thank you for the feedback
Where is all the data saying the TV is being degrade? Please post the source. I hear this all the time but never see any real life data .
@@camarogs1 Most TV manufacturers would provide operating temperatures which may differ between brand and TV spec. Operating temperature ranges are provided specifically for users to avoid damaging/degrading the television. Just a very quick Google search gave me an example by Samsung on their LCDs - www.samsung.com/ca/support/tv-audio-video/lcd-tv-will-very-cold-or-very-warm-temperatures-affect-my-lcd-tv/
I have a fireplace in my condo that I never use the tv is going above that shit and getting mounted lol I will keep the fireplace off though since it’s the regular old school wood burning and I hate cleaning up that mess. I hear you though better to be safe and just not use the fireplace with it over it.
@@Josh-py9rq Sounds like a good compromise. I would like to add these guys are selling fireplaces, not really sure they are at liberty to tell others what temperatures all our TV's are perfectly ok to run on. It is suspicious they did not even advise for people to check the operational temperature range of your television which differs between brand and screen technology. Do they even care about your TV? It may be that the blanket explanation they provided benefits them because people will just believe the fireplace people and buy a fireplace.
I am disappointed that there aren't any videos about placing a TV BELOW an electric fireplace. That would certainly solve the excessive height and possible heat issues.
That would be intresting actually. I know we put fireplaces lower because heat rises.
What if it’s a plasma TVs?
same
The reason you don't put a tv over a fireplace is because of the viewing angles. There is always a sweet spot for a tv to hang relative to your sitting position. Putting it over the fireplace often makes it to high for the best viewing. But you do you chiropractor will take care of the rest.
ha
Something you failed to mention it depends on the type of fireplace you have as well and your TV mount.
good things to be aware of .
What’s a fire poice 🧐? 0:23
haha
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's preference and personal choice but the fireplace and tv are fundamentally different. It's the principle. My mountain cabin spirit dies a little everytime I see a tv over a fireplace. 😉
not a bad point
was hoping yousd show a normal low gas fire.
sorry
Worst thing you can have a do is mount a TV above a fireplace, it's not only a question of heat, the fact is it's complete unatral to have your head bent up in the air, it's a, very bad viewing experience, ie your eyes should be level with the centre of the screen...
it looks amazing! All prefrence though
That’s why you get a full tilting mount so you’re able to tilt it at the perfect angle you want.
J'aurais préféré voir une fois posé...🤔🤔
Thanks!
Unless you have an anemic fireplace like an electric one, its a dumb idea. Dumb. TVs are hot themselves.
Thanks for watching!
@@embersliving Your channel is absolutely amazing. The content is thoroughly presented and the host is relatable. Thank you for the work that is put in to the channel. From Lethbridge, Alberta Canada.
An actual wood burning fireplace with an actual chimney, not a good idea. That entire wall be hot.
true
Not a real fireplace.
true
👏👏👏💖💖
thanks
Can you put a TV above a REAL fireplace that's made out of brick?
not really
@@embersliving Why not? Too hot? 😯
LMFAO! You proved the opposite point that you were trying to make. FFS.
wow trolled two videos!
The question is not CAN you install a TV above the fireplace. It is SHOULD you install a TV above the fireplace. Almost universally the answer is and emphatic NO. This is not about heat or damaging your TV. It's about neck position and comfort while watching. Doing this give you an unnatural viewing angle. The center of your TV should be about the same height as your eyeballs while you are in the position where you most often watch. So sit in your couch and look straight ahead. That spot on the wall (probably about 3 feet up from the floor) should be the center of your TV. Unless you have a crazy short fireplace, or you mostly watch TV while standing, do not put the TV over the fireplace.
ok
Several factor you need to consider is the size of the TV, and how far are you sitting from the TV. This affects the “eyeball” level in correlation to “neck strain”.
If you want to break your neck install tv above fireplace.
ha
Wow you sound like you are out of breath often. Try and get your health check out
ha its a mic setting but my health is good, just had a check up!
He needs a treadmill not a fire place
I just have to laugh at all these comments. Trying to loose weight... All the fat shamming helps. thanks!
Embers Fireplaces & Outdoor Living get on the salads big boy
SHAME on anyone doing a personal attack when this is all just helping!
@Nia Long u must be a piggy like him 😢 lol
They're definitely miserable, that's the only reason they lash out like this.
Get to the point
ok
What fireplace is that in the video ?
Good video. Would a mantel assist? I’m finding that our Mezzo (heat coming out from the front of fireplace) we had to install a decent shelf to assist heat to deflect off the TV.
Good point about positioning TV. Even if you could put one close to the fireplace, aesthetically it doesn’t look good. A decent gap between the fireplace and TV is aesthetically better as long as the TV isn’t too high (15 inches is good). I’ve seen TVs a few inches about a fireplace and it doesn’t look good to me. What do you think?
Yes and no. some of the training classes we have been to. Sometimes the heat can wrap around the mantel more vigorously then if it wasn't there. I suppose it depends on depth of mantel, how efficient the fireplace is, and a few other variables. But your right, there are a few different solutions to this problem, and I agree about the TV height!
Embers Fireplaces & Outdoor Living thank you for replying. :) Yes, the mantel’s width makes a difference. We initially installed one at the same width as the TV (well, the fireplace installer said it won’t be an issue). I tested this theory by extending the mantel on one side temporarily with spare aluminum and wow, you’re correct. The mantel extended on one side, the TV felt cooler.
Things you learn after purchase as there aren’t comprehensive answers to all scenarios. I think the main thing is our fireplace has a high output.
Does a higher output fireplace have larger flames? I’ve read about other brands with lower output having smaller flames. Or, depends on the brand? It was impossible to see all brands in action as not all were available to view in showrooms or online.
But, a nice fireplace seriously makes a positive impression within the home and we love it!