Good update video on degassing Tom i remember seeing a few older ones when we got our first ultrasonic cleaner. It is also suggested to use distilled water in ultrasonic cleaners simply because of minerals in tap water. We have used distilled water and did not notice any difference not to say there is not one but visually and operationally the carbs look the same when they come out of the bath. Over 9 years we have only had two carb failures after ultrasonic cleaning, one was too severely gummed and rusted up and the other had spider webs internally that would not dissolve or allow removal.
You said to degass once in the morning. What if we put items inside the ultrasonic throughout the day that creates air bubbles ? Should we degass again before we run a cycle ?
I always wondered how much having an internal container (the glass jar) affects the cleaning. it seems like it would disperse at least some of the harmonics that do the cleaning, but I could be wrong. Have you experimented with going straight into the cleaner vs putting the parts in a glass jar inside it?
It hasn’t made any noticeable difference with or without the jar, though this machine is a very good quality one, maybe with lower end units you may start to notice a difference? Do you have one?
@Vintage Engine Repairs Of course, but mine is a lower end one. 🤣 I used it on a gas tank today that had gas so old, it turned bright red(that's a new one for me) mine is not big enough for a tank so I had to flip it... worked though
So for clarification; Do I run the unit with just the water to degas or both the water and the Ultrasonic cleaning solution to degass when the ultrasonic doesn't have a degass feature? Also does this apply to distilled and ionized water or just tap water?
Distilled water shouldn’t contain air, it’s just tap water. You can do it with the solution too. You can run a 20 min cycle including heat and you should be good. Then put your parts in and run a second / third cycle depending on condition of parts.
@@VintageEngineRepairs Well the stuff I'm personally planning on cleaning isn't "that" dirty. Just some flux. However I want the most effective way to clean them out of principal. Doing things properly basically. I also noticed these versions of Ultrasonic cleaners that aren't in the thousands of dollars don't have degas features and therefor I wanted to know the best way to emulate that feature. With that being said running the Ultrasonic Cleaner at the maximum recommended temperature of the cleaning solution with both the water and cleaning solution for 20 minutes is better then just pouring the solution in water and parts in is what you're saying? That won't degraded the quality of the solution but activate it or make better?
@@boredfive3001 no you won’t degrade the solution by simply running the US-cleaner. Mine was only a couple hundred dollars, it’s not only the industrial ones that have the feature, you may have it and just not know the button combination - double check your manual :)
@@VintageEngineRepairs I just checked my manual and it didn't mention the feature which is fine. I didn't necessarily expect it to, however isn't degassing the same as just running the unit regularly? Is heat involved to degass? And why doesn't regular distilled water have gas in it but tap water does? The cleaning solution I have says to degas it on the bottle.
I’m looking at buying one of these, are you using a glass jar to put your dirty parts in and keep the water clean? I’d also thought of running it with jizer fluid to help degrease really dirty parts, is that possible?
That’s a very interesting point! I don’t know honestly! Technically it has no air in it, but if it’s been shaken in transport or dropped, would that introduce gas back in? In not sure. Thanks for bringing that up :)
I thought by the title you actually had some condition of the device itself needing a fix. Turns out you are degassing the cleaning solution, not the machine. Strange, I have a large cleaner like that I got 6 years ago and there was no mention in the operating instructions about this procedure. Maybe this makes a difference and maybe not, not every source of water has dissolved gas in high concentration and even if it did I doubt the cleaning effect will be compromised for very long, if at all. Everything I have cleaned gets right with the program and we have well water with quite a lot of dissolved gas, you can draw a glass of water and watch it fiz and turn from cloudy to clear!
Good update video on degassing Tom i remember seeing a few older ones when we got our first ultrasonic cleaner. It is also suggested to use distilled water in ultrasonic cleaners simply because of minerals in tap water. We have used distilled water and did not notice any difference not to say there is not one but visually and operationally the carbs look the same when they come out of the bath. Over 9 years we have only had two carb failures after ultrasonic cleaning, one was too severely gummed and rusted up and the other had spider webs internally that would not dissolve or allow removal.
Thanks Wayne, much appreciated. They’re a useful tool aren’t they!
Something i never knew Tom really good tip 👍
Glad it helped buddy :)
holy moly that machine is quiet. mine sounds like a cross between an exploding transformer and a digital bird being tortured.
Na I just turn the volume down in edit as it’s painful! Lol
I had never heard of this before
You said to degass once in the morning. What if we put items inside the ultrasonic throughout the day that creates air bubbles ? Should we degass again before we run a cycle ?
Hey, no, just degas it every time you use fresh water :)
I always wondered how much having an internal container (the glass jar) affects the cleaning. it seems like it would disperse at least some of the harmonics that do the cleaning, but I could be wrong. Have you experimented with going straight into the cleaner vs putting the parts in a glass jar inside it?
It hasn’t made any noticeable difference with or without the jar, though this machine is a very good quality one, maybe with lower end units you may start to notice a difference? Do you have one?
@Vintage Engine Repairs Of course, but mine is a lower end one. 🤣
I used it on a gas tank today that had gas so old, it turned bright red(that's a new one for me) mine is not big enough for a tank so I had to flip it... worked though
So for clarification; Do I run the unit with just the water to degas or both the water and the Ultrasonic cleaning solution to degass when the ultrasonic doesn't have a degass feature? Also does this apply to distilled and ionized water or just tap water?
Distilled water shouldn’t contain air, it’s just tap water. You can do it with the solution too. You can run a 20 min cycle including heat and you should be good. Then put your parts in and run a second / third cycle depending on condition of parts.
@@VintageEngineRepairs Well the stuff I'm personally planning on cleaning isn't "that" dirty. Just some flux. However I want the most effective way to clean them out of principal. Doing things properly basically. I also noticed these versions of Ultrasonic cleaners that aren't in the thousands of dollars don't have degas features and therefor I wanted to know the best way to emulate that feature. With that being said running the Ultrasonic Cleaner at the maximum recommended temperature of the cleaning solution with both the water and cleaning solution for 20 minutes is better then just pouring the solution in water and parts in is what you're saying? That won't degraded the quality of the solution but activate it or make better?
@@boredfive3001 no you won’t degrade the solution by simply running the US-cleaner. Mine was only a couple hundred dollars, it’s not only the industrial ones that have the feature, you may have it and just not know the button combination - double check your manual :)
@@VintageEngineRepairs I just checked my manual and it didn't mention the feature which is fine. I didn't necessarily expect it to, however isn't degassing the same as just running the unit regularly? Is heat involved to degass? And why doesn't regular distilled water have gas in it but tap water does? The cleaning solution I have says to degas it on the bottle.
This is fantastic thanks
Pleasure, thanks for watching :)
hi, you don't see the water agitaton in the jar like you do in the tank, does this method reduce the action / power?
I haven’t noticed a difference, but certainly give it a go!
I’m looking at buying one of these, are you using a glass jar to put your dirty parts in and keep the water clean? I’d also thought of running it with jizer fluid to help degrease really dirty parts, is that possible?
Yep, the jar keeps everything clean. Not sure what Jizer is. I use a water based alkaline bilge and engine bay degreaser, ct14 it’s incredible.
@@VintageEngineRepairs jizer is the red Kerro bath fluid. I think I’ll go your way and use it in a jar for the dirty stuff. 👍
If you use destilled water from a store there is no need to de-gas is there?
That’s a very interesting point! I don’t know honestly! Technically it has no air in it, but if it’s been shaken in transport or dropped, would that introduce gas back in? In not sure. Thanks for bringing that up :)
Do you mean degauze? AS in electric fields build up etc.
No, degas, remove the air in the water to allow for cavitation.
I thought by the title you actually had some condition of the device itself needing a fix. Turns out you are degassing the cleaning solution, not the machine. Strange, I have a large cleaner like that I got 6 years ago and there was no mention in the operating instructions about this procedure. Maybe this makes a difference and maybe not, not every source of water has dissolved gas in high concentration and even if it did I doubt the cleaning effect will be compromised for very long, if at all. Everything I have cleaned gets right with the program and we have well water with quite a lot of dissolved gas, you can draw a glass of water and watch it fiz and turn from cloudy to clear!
Thanks for your comment.
TO WORK PROPERLY.. DO NOT LET ANYTHING TOUCH THE BOTTOM OR SIDES OF TANK .
PS your basket should suspend the parts and never touch the bottom
Great advice!