The best mod for these bikes is to use those tires, your going in the right direction, we don’t run any weight in the front wheel just the ZH hard inserts and no crash bars as they break the frame, you don’t need them with brushless, that bike with that motor and pinion must be hard sor to keep upright going so slow, try sensored brushless they are so smooth and fast 👍🏻
I've got about 25 of these.At least 7 brand new in the box(Including the earlier models).I have about 25 Kyosho,Graupner,kraft (they was always changing the brand name).A massive box full of brand new alloy spares.Then a load more rc motorcycles.
I prefer direct steering, you will find when you start going faster you not get the bike to turn especially with a weighted front wheel. Good starting point though to keep it standard when you are learning 👍🏻
You mean counter-steer conversion?? I don't think it makes sense with the leaning rider. I don't run the weight in the front wheel. The bike turns beautifully without it, but for a beginner, it's a good idea at first
Another question my friend. I learned from an Admin in another group that we should have different front weights depending on the course. Heavy for tight spaces and light for wide fast tracks.. Is that the same case for you?
You really only need the Kyosho kit, lipo battery, ESC, radio and receiver. I will say this isn't a beginner's kit if you are new to R/C. You will have to assemble, solder, and program the ESC and radio. Plenty of good videos on UA-cam to help you but it will take some effort! Getting a car first may be a good idea and then start building the motorcycle!
Did you remove the small molded bump stops on the swing arm? I see yours has longer rear suspension stroke than mine. I wonder if those were there to protect the chain (over-tensioning), or because Kyosho doesn't want you to run this on anything but billiard pool smooth tracks?
I did remove those bump stops. I believe they are ther to stop the rear wheel from touching the rear sub frame at maximum compression and draggging the tire. But maybe for the chain too? Good eyes! I forgot to mention that
@@motionsick4973 heh, I'm all about the suspension stroke. My favorite RCs are rally cars... But I also love to throw in some variety... and I love to ride, too! 😃
@@YoShImUrA53 Sweet! You will definitely appreciate softer suspension on this bike! Super fun and they respond a lot like the real bikes too, super fun!!!
Is anything needed with the kit, what i mean is does the kit come with everything i need to use it or do i need to get a controller, servo etc to get it to run and the kit is just the bike and rider no electronics?
If you buy stock kit, the minimum additional stuff you will need is a brushed ESC (with a BEC), battery, receiver, and transmitter. I like the FlySky Noble 4 Transmitter, 900mah 2s lipo battery, and a 20amp ESC. I have some other vids on this bike that may help. Get the bike!
Sweet dude! I added the front and rear ZH inserts with the kyosho soft tires. I added softer front and rear springs I found from a random bag and of course…the head turn which you did too! I’m going to do a video. I have an original box and add to show off 💪
I'm surprised you don't have videos on the Promoto MX, I feel it's one of the coolest RC things to come about in some time - though I know very little about RC bikes at all lol.
Those are sweet bikes and I'm tempted. They have an internal gyro mechanism which is awesome. The kyosho bikes offer a lot different riding experience. I would argue more skill is required to pilot the Kyosho bikes. I also much prefer road bikes. I will likely buy a Promoto...resistance is futile! LOL
@@motionsick4973 Right, that's what I was thinking about it requiring more skill. You use the guy's movements to shift weight and steer correct? The promotos just have so many upgrades available it's insane, a guy could put himself in a financial pinch in no time with one of those things lol. Not sure if you have ever seen Kevin Talbot vids, but he turned one into a 6S speed demon - with extended swingarm etc. He hit 70mph and is going for 100! He had to stuff the big lipo wedged between the guy and the tank, with it sticking way up out of the top!
@@two3fpv Yes, it's the rider leaning and the front swing arm that steer the bike. They aren't hard to drive but they are harder to drive than the Promoto which I've taken for a spin. It does seem like the Promoto is a "thrash and rip" unit. I like a little more finesse in my RC! LOL
The best mod for these bikes is to use those tires, your going in the right direction, we don’t run any weight in the front wheel just the ZH hard inserts and no crash bars as they break the frame, you don’t need them with brushless, that bike with that motor and pinion must be hard sor to keep upright going so slow, try sensored brushless they are so smooth and fast 👍🏻
Thank you, I only run small tight tracks. I haven't had any issues with the crash bars. I'm sure it's an issue with higher speeds though
I've got about 25 of these.At least 7 brand new in the box(Including the earlier models).I have about 25 Kyosho,Graupner,kraft (they was always changing the brand name).A massive box full of brand new alloy spares.Then a load more rc motorcycles.
Hi, i am rebuilding my bike also... run in too many problems... do you need to trim steering servo slightly to make the bike run in straight line?
some trim is normal but it shouldn't be more than about 15%
You need the oval washers on the gear box mounts to stop it moving after a tumble or gearbox moves back chain comes off and destroys the gears.
I forgot to mention the metal oval washers! They are on there...duh. Thanks for your comment
I prefer direct steering, you will find when you start going faster you not get the bike to turn especially with a weighted front wheel.
Good starting point though to keep it standard when you are learning 👍🏻
You mean counter-steer conversion?? I don't think it makes sense with the leaning rider. I don't run the weight in the front wheel. The bike turns beautifully without it, but for a beginner, it's a good idea at first
Any mods you did with the stock swing arms? I find the rear suspension travel on mine very limited.
I trimmed the stops off the top of the swingarm to get full travel with the shock. However, you can bottom out and have the frame hit the rear tire
@@motionsick4973got it. Thanks bud!
you should check out the lemans dm20bb motor instead of the stock lemans dm20. I am looking for a mini 1/8 brushless sensored esc/motor to fit......
Another question my friend. I learned from an Admin in another group that we should have different front weights depending on the course. Heavy for tight spaces and light for wide fast tracks.. Is that the same case for you?
Hey jerc! Man, I can't comment for faster tracks with regards to weight. I keep it the same.
But I would defer to the guys in Asia who really race...
@@motionsick4973 gotcha
Great video, Thanks. I have been thinking about getting this kit but need to do some research on everything I need. Currently have no RC stuff.
You really only need the Kyosho kit, lipo battery, ESC, radio and receiver. I will say this isn't a beginner's kit if you are new to R/C. You will have to assemble, solder, and program the ESC and radio. Plenty of good videos on UA-cam to help you but it will take some effort! Getting a car first may be a good idea and then start building the motorcycle!
Did you remove the small molded bump stops on the swing arm? I see yours has longer rear suspension stroke than mine.
I wonder if those were there to protect the chain (over-tensioning), or because Kyosho doesn't want you to run this on anything but billiard pool smooth tracks?
I did remove those bump stops. I believe they are ther to stop the rear wheel from touching the rear sub frame at maximum compression and draggging the tire. But maybe for the chain too? Good eyes! I forgot to mention that
@@motionsick4973 heh, I'm all about the suspension stroke. My favorite RCs are rally cars... But I also love to throw in some variety... and I love to ride, too! 😃
@@YoShImUrA53 Sweet! You will definitely appreciate softer suspension on this bike! Super fun and they respond a lot like the real bikes too, super fun!!!
Is anything needed with the kit, what i mean is does the kit come with everything i need to use it or do i need to get a controller, servo etc to get it to run and the kit is just the bike and rider no electronics?
If you buy stock kit, the minimum additional stuff you will need is a brushed ESC (with a BEC), battery, receiver, and transmitter. I like the FlySky Noble 4 Transmitter, 900mah 2s lipo battery, and a 20amp ESC. I have some other vids on this bike that may help. Get the bike!
I finally was able to order the High Grip tires by Kyosho for my MK1. Any mods you made on the MK1?
Sweet dude! I added the front and rear ZH inserts with the kyosho soft tires. I added softer front and rear springs I found from a random bag and of course…the head turn which you did too! I’m going to do a video. I have an original box and add to show off 💪
@@motionsick4973 Yes! Yeah the shocks are my next target to upgrade. I also ordered the gears. I am hoping the mk2 gears will work on MK1
@@motionsick4973 If I couldn't buy/find the zh inserts I might scratchbuilt one instead. haha
I'm surprised you don't have videos on the Promoto MX, I feel it's one of the coolest RC things to come about in some time - though I know very little about RC bikes at all lol.
Those are sweet bikes and I'm tempted. They have an internal gyro mechanism which is awesome. The kyosho bikes offer a lot different riding experience. I would argue more skill is required to pilot the Kyosho bikes. I also much prefer road bikes. I will likely buy a Promoto...resistance is futile! LOL
@@motionsick4973 Right, that's what I was thinking about it requiring more skill. You use the guy's movements to shift weight and steer correct? The promotos just have so many upgrades available it's insane, a guy could put himself in a financial pinch in no time with one of those things lol. Not sure if you have ever seen Kevin Talbot vids, but he turned one into a 6S speed demon - with extended swingarm etc. He hit 70mph and is going for 100! He had to stuff the big lipo wedged between the guy and the tank, with it sticking way up out of the top!
@@two3fpv Yes, it's the rider leaning and the front swing arm that steer the bike. They aren't hard to drive but they are harder to drive than the Promoto which I've taken for a spin. It does seem like the Promoto is a "thrash and rip" unit. I like a little more finesse in my RC! LOL