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- Most people are brainwashed into believing you have to have the latest and greatest Speed equipment to go fast. Here's two examples of cars that run times in the single digits using mostly stock parts.
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agreed...but just probably for a short-while, in time...... UTG will go straight to the top.
you say your glueless and stuck in the haidees?.......
I think its more like the 70s
id bet the farm and the red barn his loves and passions were formed and fashioned in the 60s.....just like me.
@@Imnotyourdoormat tony is that cool uncle I never had. Lol. Chain smoking and getting under the hood of an old car
Reminds me of the Jim Hand Pontiac wagon. He wrote great book documenting his years of experience of the cars all the way from the introduction of the Pontiac V8. When the publisher wanted to update it they wanted the include all the new aftermarket parts but he couldn't do it because he never used them. Now his book book goes for a chunk on Ebay.
True wisdom...thanks
I met Dave Dudeck at Raceway Park we talked a couple of minutes. I could not believe that car could launch like it does so I asked him if I could check his back tires. He replied yes......They are real street tires with treads!
Jeep
When "built not bought" still comes in a box.
Simple is the best. I actually hate over engineered, over modified cars. I like super stock cars. Have fun and have money left over.
I don't fix it when it ain't broke
Don't be a "Write-a-check racer".
there is so much ET in the little details
I coulda retired twice with all the money i pissed away
My dad taught me junkyard parts go just as fast at 1/10 of the cost
Jake Browne they do some of the best running stuff is all grimy and greasy. most nice clean pretty looking stuff needs a lot of work
Hell, when I was 18 or 19 me and a few friends managed to fool around in a junkyard and we managed to make a 65 HP Yugo beat an almost new BMW M3 I think. We didn't even do that much, just found parts to make it work and I replaced the original single barrel webber with one from an Opel Ascona, don't remember the carb model off it. All weight reduction was done by mother nature by rotting half the panels out and removing anything not necessary for the car to run. And we only managed to do 4 runs before we destroyed the transmission, oh well.
@@utahcountypicazospage5412 Well, all I can say is pull-a-part is cheep and they take returns(store credit). Can't do that with craigslist or even some full service yards
Thats how he felt about your mother also jk jk no harm meant
@Lassi Kinnunen My bad then. I don't know anything about BMWs really since they're too expensive and unreliable to interest me, and the guy probably didn't know what model it was either. I might have remembered it wrongly as well.
I love this video! This illustrates perfectly the difference between my friends and i. Im always figuring things out with what I have or making things work out of stuff I have laying around, my buddies just buy things hoping to improve something lol often they spend lots of money and never get the results they wanted. One thing I will never forget, years ago I bought a wrecked older motorcycle and scoured ebay and forums and got all the stuff to rebuild it second hand. I bought a cheap harbor freight paint gun and some candy orange paint and fixed it up better than new. I went out on a ride with my buddy who was riding his brand new all black gsxr 600. We stopped at a truck stop to cool off and get a drink. We were standing.outside leaned up against the wall. This guy gets pulls up and as he gets out he looks at our bikes then looks at us and says man that's a nice bike! My buddy puffs up and starts to smile and then the guy asked what the name of the paint color was. My buddy instantly sunk back down.. my buddy was born with money,I wasn't. His first car his dad gave him, he had a brand new harley his dad bought him when he turned 16. My first car was a base model ford ranger with a ton of miles that I bought myself. If his car broke his dad took it to the dealer and threw money at it, if mine broke down I was laying on my back in a gravel driveway working on it lol
Where I live even the poorest of people rather throw money at mechanics than fix a car themselves, though in their defense, you can't exactly do much on 90s and early 2000s German junk.
My first car was a 1978 Mercedes w123, paid 200 euro for it, and in the 5 years I owned that piece of crap I probably replaced 70% of the engine bay, rarely did I ever need someone's help to install anything.
Thats what it's all about!
Boy, howdy. Until you freeze your balls off lying on gravel to fix your car a few zillion times, you have no idea the value of doing it right the first time and appreciating what you got.
Keep It Simple Stupid works with a lot more than cars.
Troubleshooting.....check the easys.
Fuel in the tank and a don't have a mouse in the carb.
More than once I’ve seen a long fuel system troubleshoot on a car that was simply out of gas.
It's my doctrine and mantra but............................people.
More than cars. Example. When she's about to cum, don't speed up, just maintain the same thrust rate.
The only channel i dont mind watching ads for. Its the least we can do
Some are from UA-cam themselves and UTG has no say in the matter and receives no money.
@@superduty4556 are you saying that UA-cam doesn't pay Tony when we watch the ads?
@@spasticnapjerk I'm saying that some ads are placed by UA-cam themselves and Tony has no control over it.
@@johnpossum556 I'm not full it it. UA-cam definitely runs ads on its own accord for itself. You have never seen commercials before or after a video that isn't monetized? Do you think that is isolated to only unmonetized videos?
UT can have a monetized channel but not all of them are his.
Was nobody paying ANY attention when the Adpocalypse was happening?
Ad-blocker is a wonderful thing! Have not seen an ad for about a decade! Don't know who has 'em or who don't and could not care less......Ad-blocker is a wonderful thing!!!!
I never miss my daily Uncle Tony wisdom. Have a good day man!
dont ever apologize for simplicity T....the 1st rule of engineering 101 is kiss, its well known the simpler a design is, the more DURABLE it becomes....when smokey was once asked if could he design an engine, he said, "hell yes i could, and it wouldnt have any damn valves in the whole motor"!!!...the craftsmen type of self-engineering saturated early hotrodding, the rich-prick had no advantage whatsoever... your plans for the little A-motor are exactly how detroit and other engineers tested their designs, they pushed it till it failed, in wing-loading tests, they even stack lead weights to airplane wings till they rip them right-off the plane....the maximization of existing parts is also how you learn...big-time....but im afraid old-fashioned hotrodding is gone forever but as always tony...kutgw.
That Never ending, desire to say 750 double pumper, to guy at the car show,.. it's that bragging nonsense, be who you are, let the Car speak for itself.. Daily driven 68 Dodge Dart 318/A904 2 barrel BBD, stock 340 Exhaust manifolds, thru a Single Flow Master.. See you in the Rear view mirror.. thanks Uncle Tony.. Oi oi oi..
Great comment. And I agree 100% let the car do the talk'n ;)
@@woodey028 Thanks.. it means more to me to hear from someone who gets it, then being told, nice car, you should put a big block in it.. like yeah, I should just throw all of this work away and start over 😅.. it's my Car.. Peace Bro..
“Make you own parts. Anybody can spend money.” Profound💯
Great video. In the 80's, when my car journey began, I read a lot of magazines and initially believed I could not be significantly faster without all the speed stuff they were trying to sell. My car tech knowledge was weak so I fell into the trap but quickly found that bolting the same stuff to my car didn't always work out. Plus, I could not afford to throw a lot of money at it. Luckily, I had a good friend who taught me...who understood each system ala UT. It wasn't long before I had unbolted and undid a lot of that and "fixed" systems and where gains could be made, upgrading to other factory parts from junkyard donors. The car was unassuming as a whole. Back then most people built cars that looked fast and showed off performance. Mine was a sleeper and I really didn't even know what that term meant at the time. The only aftermarket part I had was a cheap set of headers and mufflers. Fun times. My friends flashy cars looked great...in my rearview mirror.
one of the things to remember, is a car is a system. Bolt on that high riser intake with stock exhaust, and you lose power. I remember the car magazines in those days, there were still "junkyard builds" if you bought the right magazines. The California press was big on selling aftermarket parts, the New York press was more on "an HEI will do what the Captive Discharge ignition does 90% of the time for less". And some street rodder mags also had tech tips from the junkyard.
You still wanted some aftermarket stuff, tho, like headers and exhaust. If you weren't doing a Chevy, then you also needed an aftermarket intake--mopars were pretty much the same, except the Max Wedge and Six Pack. That's why its funny this video turns its nose up at aftermarket parts, then shows cars with blowers and nitrous--those power adders aren't OEM (except on some V6 engines, of course). And today, a lot of aftermarket heads cost less than trying to get an OEM junkyard head ported and the valves lapped and the seals redone and the seats cut and so on.
I just want a vehicle that will make it to the grocery store reliably!
OK, I can sell you my 2000 Neon.It will get you there, and back also!
Toyota corolla
G body if your on a budget
A 94 celica
Amen! This type of wisdom is disappearing from the auto enthusiast world and it's priceless. So glad that I stumbled onto this channel!
So true!!!! Years ago I had a stock 74 Charger 360 2bbl my buddy had a 74 Challenger 360 4bbl both had the same 3.23 gears..Charger was heavier and 2 barrel ..
I added duel exhaust but stock exhaust manifolds..I had my other buddy(my engine builder today) he tuned it up and by that was re-curving the distributor and jetting the 2 barrel .We changed the converter trans was fine,added a shift kit..
Anyways,I ran side by side with a stock 1974 360 4bbl high performance Challenger Rallye that car ran low 14.0's in street trim spinning off the line..That car could have run mid 13's or better easily with the same tricks my car had! Before that the Challenger had me by 3 car lengths..Stock 360 2bbl Charger was soft until 30 then it seemed to get going really good,it moved 30 plus..!! But no more,it got it on from a roll !!!
****Duel exhaust..re-curved distributor,jetted TWO BARREL,torque converter and shift kit(I just wanted the car to chirp in 2nds gear mainly why I got the shift kit lol)...And it woke that car right up,it wasn't a dog before either but you would swear it had a cam and 4bbl added!! I wasn't that rich then so worked with junkyard parts only new part was the converter..Exhaust was from a Charger with duel exhaust from the junkyard..Car already had 3.23 gears..I could have went with 4.10's for the total kill but I drove on the highway all the time and my other buddy had a Road Runner with 4.10's and I didnt want to drive 50 mph @10 million rpm lol!!
Little tuning goes along way!!! Think of it this way younger guys..Think of how a tuner changes your newer car! It wakes them up,same with these tricks and more!!!
Shure do miss the old junk yards.lots of real goodies
When a customer came into one of the engine shops i worked at ,my advice was to throw away their magazine pile..
Yea still do hotrod.
love this stuff tricks to go fast .with out breaking bank.
New parts?
Wtf are those?
Unless its brake pads and shoes and filters and tune up parts,
everything is rebuilt by me, junkyard, swap meet, Craig's list, midnight auto parts,
on this old 75 C-20.
I drive this old truck cause except for the hei its basic, simple, easy to find previously owned performance parts,or its going to fit cause I said so parts. I use a BFH for minor adjustments on those parts.
My only problems are finding 33x12.50x16.5 tires.
I just toss the 16.5’s in The trash, I alway just get some 8 lugs rims and tiers off a new truck that the buyer of the new truck had to take the off and buy aftermarket rims and odd size tiers...
Step the tire size up to a 36-37 and you can get surplus hmmwv tires for dirt cheap that are 16.5. Or get a set of 16" rims lol
Speedfactory.com has multiple MT tires sizes there a famous fwd Honda that goes 218mph they got might have those big chiefs spec 16s 33in Mickey Thompson,, that's the only way to order those tires sizes they got 22s by 13s 24in,26s 28s and I might be sure they got the "33in 16s" and 17in 36s
Dave Dudicks Road Runner is far from STOCK ! As you said the car is "Scienced" out to say the least! Extrude honed "stock" manifolds "worked" over 727 transmission and on and on! All he has to do is "appear" to be stock, with very few requirements. I would have to go look up what the rules are for the two different classes of cars being ran! But the term stock is relative to this Road Runner.
Absolutely..it's an extreme example, but technically accurate
Aside from basic repairs, I never knew much about mopars until I started watching UTG...I've learned more in a few months than at any other time in my life! 🙂
To everyone reading this. I happen to know Uncle Tony personally. We’re about as close as two men can be without anything unnatural or breaking any laws. Tony walks the walk, he’s not just spewing this shit for views & hits. This is really him... he means everything he says. The aftermarket could make him a rich man if he’d push their chrome whatever’s or whatever the latest go fast doodad is, but that’s just not him. He lives every word he says. I hope you folks are absorbing every last grain of wisdom he’s spouting. What you see is what you get... this is not some “online persona” this is Uncle Tony.
Thanks man!
A/C, power steering, power brakes. In that order. I’d take a 318 car with those options over a 440 without them.
ditch the power brakes, manual is more responsive
I love your mindset, Tony! Learning how this stuff works before throwing money at it is all part of the process and the part of the fun with these older (1960s) cars. It’s how I was taught anyway. 👍
I’m 18, I kinda got wrapped up in buying performance parts. I’m halfway thru now kind of reevaluating some choices that I planned, like single leafs and Calvert bars I’m now going without, but I’m kind of committed to the engine I’m building which is a 550+ hp 383 bbm on e85. Now I’m trying to figure out my fueling situation without spend a lot but there’s not a lot of info on how to do e85 on K.I.S.S. Way. And since it’s a 64 polara I can’t find many cheap options on how to swap it to a 4spd with out buying a $2500 kit. I am changing my whole approach to the rear suspension differently tho
So True! Maximizing what you have is fun and affordable. It will make you think, you will screw up sometimes, but if you are persistent you will learn and gain confidence. Importantly, do this with your son, daughter or a friend.
A frugal and well-researched approach to your old car is slow and boring, yet the most rewarding. Are you a resourceful person who delays gratification, or are you impulsive and impatient?
Uncle Tony is tuned into my frequency. Can’t believe I have just stumbled over this channel. Thumbs up!!
thats me in my challenger racing dudek in his roadrunner in 2017 at the spring FAST race
Had a GM flashback - sorry. The dueljet carb an emissions part used for years as was the 2 gv carb that got used for 20 25 years.
A dueljet ,idle screws open a lot and two or 3 jet sizes up or more depends what bone yard beater ya got it from, take some base gaskets and longer bolts to the intake 3 or 4 most times got it. Is it cammed even better. A 305 or 307 can surprize you - some with just a little love.
For a cheap or free engine so what if it grenades. It was a learning tool, on to the next. Save what you can scrap the rest - the gold is between your ears. Most of the bone yard gems are long gone now, still a few things around to learn on. Fuel injection ? so what it's still a learning tool.
Get out there before it's all useless junk, it almost is now.
John Robinson those Rochester 2gv carbs were really fun to tinker with. Very simple to work on too.
@@xtune5731 All pot metal 3 pieces if my aging memory serves. Super simple as you know, want to up jet ? Jet drills no screw in jets. cast as is so 305 or 7 to 350 go two up start there. Go too far ? not hard to do.
Remember the two part gas tank repair epoxy? the two strips you knead together.
Drill out the metering holes 3/16 stuff some of that epoxy in smooth like. when it sets start small work up - fixed. Another one for ya. The throttle shafts always leak and mess with vacuum. Take the same stuff mix some steel powder, maybe 1/3 the volume of the epoxy you plan to use.
Pack it in thick let it set drill new shaft holes
all fixed. For a while anyway. No more off idle stumble, they ALL did that. More miles on it, more wear more stumble.
Duel jets took a bit more fiddle but you could make them pretty good, with a bit of fix and try.
John Robinson if I remember correctly it was the power valve in the fuel bowl, either it sticking or getting bent when someone removed it would also cause that. I just ground a notch on one of my flatheads and bought a new one to replace the old one when rebuilding the carb.
@@xtune5731 I forgot about that yep half an hour of fiddle and then hope. They bent easy.
Brass shaft i think that also got grooved easy too. I sanded mine smooth and never got right after. If it is the right part i'm thinking of. A bit fuzzy after 35 years.
John Robinson yeah it’s a little brass plug looking thing with a needle sticking out. It if sticks, looks old, or bent. It’ll cause you your fall on the face condition. A good amount of Rochester carbs I’ve pulled out had that needle bent. Also when whoever opened the carb forgetting to attach the tag back on it before it was engraved on the carb body.
Every time I tell my ol lady to keep it simple stupid she gets mad at me. I don't understand it. I'm just trying to help her.
I keep thinking about "back in the day" you had a 225hp Fox body deep into the 13's with stock gears in the car! It kills me to go to the track... You hear a guy who has a car making over 400hp talking about running the same ET's with cars that have half as much power! I guess that is why I try to drag race a F100....it's a challenge!
You're a top guy, more youngens need to know this. And I wish someone said this to me when I was younger, i'd have developed more knowledge and saved a few pennies.
fORD DURASPARK 2 instead of msd which = make spark disappear :) I try to do everything on the cheap and only buy what I can't make or steal.
I really thought I was the last^__^ No! I believe KISS-keep it simple stupid! AND, YOU CAN get 500-600 HP out of the junkyard!!!!I HOPE THE YOUNG PEOPLE PAY HEED!!! AND, it all doesn't have to come with a computer!!! THANK YOU UT!!! Hi, UK!
I wish I saw this before putting a stroked 440 into my pickup
The older I get, the more I appreciate factory engineering. Nothing should be "upgraded" until the function of the original parts is thoroughly understood. If only I realized the value of this in the 90s...
You have an awesome channel sir
Im big into electric rc cars that do 80+mph , I only buy upgrades when things break. UA-cam search 142ft drag race. (142ft = 1:10 scale quarter mile) 0-60 in less than 1 second.
in my perfect world...THE COLLECTORS WOULDN'T DRIVE UP THE PRICE SO THE AVERAGE JOE CAN AFFORD ONE!
AND.......the junkyards would be more efficient!
I miss living in a small down with simple people, listening to this...especially the end. I live in a big city, nice part of town. Everyone into cars maxes out their budget instead of their brain.
I saw the thumbnail I knew exactly what you were gonna talk about. Perfect advice! 👍
You got it all wrong Tony, anybody whose spent much time on the online forums knows that its absolutely useless to rebuild and upgrade stock castings. Even the better factory offerings🙄
Now, do I dare leave it at that or should I explicitly tell everyone that was sarcasm?
Now people that race use computers to program there car, back in the day we didn't have that. Just experience. They have it easy now but I like the old way better.
mrkrzt the old ways made you think. Now, like you said, just a push of a few buttons. 😒 trying to figure out carb issues, and nobody but online older folk know what their talking about. And then taking that, and working on the carb. It’s a mess.
Jon Ellwanger totally right.
About Dudek's 9.80s, the lack of a roll cage makes him hold back a little to keep from getting thrown out... The car actually has more in it.
I love your ideology and how you are shedding light on how small garage/back woods innovation has been lost over the years. keep up the good work Tony!
Awesome video as usual Uncle Tony!
This is coming from a 21 year old just staring to get his feet wet...Are there any other resources you’d recommend to fine tune cars? Stuff like books or magazines?
Study airflow, not neat looking billet valve covers. David Vizards books are a good start, and are written in layman's terms.
Well done Uncle Tony. Most car people just follow what the other guy buys, never seeing the full potential of what they have or just bought. What gets me is the younger generation will take there modern car to a Dyno shop and have it tuned ( over and over without changing anything) and never go to the track and setup the car to make real #'s. And us in the older generation will throw expensive parts at our car that we see at the car show and in the magazines, but never tune it lol. It takes time and learned knowledge to make something fast, and unfortunately people would rather not put in the effort. I love it when I see people put in the effort and maximize there set up.
That FAST class car has up to 572 ci as per class rules, heavily ported heads, and extrude honed exhaust manifolds. Not including the very custom, loose flash-tight running converter. That car makes honest 600hp+ .
The ET , mph and weight says it all.
True, a bitchen car. But not a good example of stock.
Love you channel btw.
yep, factory APPEARING. most of the interiors besides the drivers seat you cant even sit in because they are basically a shell of the seats. They also take the factory gas tank, gut it and put the battery, fuel pumps, and small fuel cell inside of it. The factory appearing battery in the front is just a case that is dressed to look like a battery. There is a lot of trickery in those cars and I would imagine it costs just as much to build one as an all out race car
20k motor 10k trans stock lolll
He meant suspension and tires. You don't need to mini tub your car and put a 4 link in it to run 11's or even 9.80's
And that’s what I find so impressive about that class. I’ve never seen anyone else get air under the front tires with those tires on the rear. Extremely impressive.
Green Roadrunner looks like the car in the chase scene from "Bullitt".
Do you have anything to say about the 5.7 Liter 350 Vortec chevrolet engines? I have a 98 silverado in my possession. I think it's pretty good as it is, but i need to replace the radiator and coolant pump. I don't care too much about going down the track very quickly, just would be cool if you knew any things i could do with it fairly easy and cheap. EBay long tubes? Carburetor and intake swap? Cheap camshaft off rock auto? What's the recipe?
I don't mind if ya don't get back to me... I'll probably never do this anyway! Haha, but if you know some small block chevy tricks, i bet you know the best small block chevy tricks.
Good video as always.
You video is so ironic, I wiped my cam out on my 440 a day before project bottle rocket! I had 284/484 purple cam on my basement shelf for 20+ years, no lifters though?? Can’t remember what I did with em! I have a built 383 with a hole in the block took the roller lifters out of that and the only thing I had to buy are the pushrods!! Scrounging and trading for parts and pieces is the name of the game I’m my world!! Thanks for your videos UT
Tony. Are you familiar with tussin5.0 ? Rodney..
He builds fox mustangs for very little money, very few new parts, mostly used and junkyard parts. And he’s a hoot to watch.
Same principle.
Love that style. It’s an adventure figuring out what works well.
Cup of coffee... Marlboro... A session with the Brian Wilson of the car world... My morning is complete... Oh yeah, NEW ZEALAND!!!
Brian Wilson??...ok, I'll take that
Man was a genius... For what its worth, coming from a Beach Boy fan who is only 30 years old...
I love your approach, it's all the little tinkering and dialing in things that really make them work....
I have seen people throw their money at stuff but they don't have enough sense to figure out the problem..... They want instant gratification..... Of just slapping on a 750 Holly or whatever it is when they dont have their junk dialed in..... So they keep spending aimlessly..... You gotta get in there and figure it out for yourself.....
Get it fine tuned...... 🌞🇺🇸✌
LOL people in this comment section who still have 0 understanding of what Tony is saying here. Yes, the F.A.S.T. cars have stroker cranks in them. They still run single digits on factory castings and junk tires. No need to go near the summit catalog until you've cracked 1hp/ci, at minimum.
I just spent 25 hours building the hot side for a turbo AMC 258. I wanted twin scroll so I did it. I put a CAT C7 turb on it and it rips. Home brew logic beats a wide open wallet in my book too Tony. Glad you are of the same mentality. You rock "Big T"!
NONSENSE, You can put an upgraded ignition system $950 and gain 3mpg, fuel additive $10 and 2mpg, High grade spark plugs $80 and 2mpg, Cold air intake w/high flow air cleaner $550 and 2mpg, Street/Strip tires for better traction on rear $500 and 1mpg, Carbon fiber rims for less rotating mass $8,000 and 2mpg, Nitrogen filled tires for more even wear because tires wont expand unevenly $20 ?? and .5mpg, Headers and exhaust system $2,500 and 3mpg, Air cyclone insert to CAI $40 and 1mpg. Sure this stuff may cost $14,450 but I gain 16.5mpg and it will pay itself off in no time. So if your car gets 25mpg now and you do all these upgrades you can get nearly 42mpg with more HP and better fuel economy. Win Win. Almost everything I listed has been tested by the BIG CORPORATIONS and showed an improvement over stock!! These backwoods mechanics always think they have the answers.
ROFLMAO--- Sarcasm up above ^^
Eh I like spending money, I have a bunch of it burning a hole in my pocket.
Work is going good and the pay is great, the part that sucks about the great pay is I wish I was 20 again 🤣
I usually go in circles and drive myself nuts and end up not buying anything 😆
And then end up doing a low buck hands on deal, like I've always done.
Use the brain for the free speed parts.
Talking in the shop with the new guy today, he had a small engine torn apart.
I laughed when I saw the spark plug in the cylinder head, because the ground electrode was facing the intake valve.....I be like : index that bi$h and see if ya get a 1/4 more hp😄
So then I told him it's a freebie , it might or might not run better what do you have to lose but a little labor?
Safety and performance very important, chrome not..... FUZZY DICE MANDATORY.....
Like my old 62 Plymouth Sport Fury, a beaten up street car I bought WITH a 440 4V, push button auto, 3.91 gear for $300! made it lighter (strip use only) 100% stock short block, comp. valve job, (my 1st attempt at 'blending' the valve job) Hemi Grind cam & lifters, Wieand open plenum manifold, 850 Holley, 6 point rill cage, $25.00 used B Body headers and had fun! But kids, life got in the way...none the less I had almost to the penny' $1500.00 in that car and that's what I sold it for! (after I smoked the 727)
I agree with tony 100% problem is no one knows how to do this anymore. Maybe make a few vids and show us the way.
I completely disagree!
That's living by Keep It Simple Smart*
So you mean trying to build my AMC concord with a 4.3L Chevy isn’t crazy? Ha and yes I’ll be running points and a carb nice and simple thanks!!
I know a young guy with a '68 Dart. It's got a healthy 383 and rebuilt 727. Still has highway gears in the rear. He's talking turbo or a new crate motor. The existing motor has plenty of hp! I try and tell him to not do anything to the motor or change it out, like all these guys do on tv. And if he wants to spend a little cash...throw some lower gears in the rear...and hold on tight!👍😎
My 67 Valiant with a 340/727 and 391s is simplistic and underrated.. Its all Mopar and runs hard on the street. It's about as "KISS" as one can get. That's the best part about Mopar. Simple.. Fast.. and Engineered to near perfection. When people ask why I like Mopar, I tell them " Engineering at its Finest". Hell Jimmy Addison had that big Kelogg stroked cranked Hemi destroying everyone with s stock 8.75 rear axle! Mopar is KING when it comes to simplicity.
Welllll...its not this simple. Nitrous, for example, is not an OEM part you find in the junkyard. A much better example of this argument would be, say, a stock 318 with a truck or 340 crank shifting at 7 thou. That's OEM parts pushed to their maximum, and Ed Hamburger can give you his recipe.
An altered wheelbase car running nitro and a blower? Again , not OEM. Remove the blower, use pump gas, and then find out what times it runs without the aftermarket power adders. Yes, it ran a Hemi block...when's the last time you saw one? Most folks are going to go with a motorhome 440, and the beefiest part is the Six Pack 'rods. The heads will flow 220 cfm and there wasn't a ton of difference in the intake manifolds unless you find a Six Pack or a Max Wedge. Most of those premier drag racers were running "Back door" parts, like Super Duty Pontiac stuff or Max Wedge. And it all got torn down on a weekly basis, and stuff got tossed. That's not "simple". The average junkyard crawler, working with OEM simple stuff, is already running 12 second quarters naturally aspirated, unless they have a big block in something really tiny, like a Vega or a Colt. so we've been there, and done that.
Cylinder heads? Price out a valve guide job, porting, etc, and sometimes you find an aftermarket unit is, in fact, the same or a cheaper price. Exhaust system? A ton of flow difference between a Hemi manifold (Which you won't find cheap) and a log manifold from a junkyard 440. However, there are some setups that you can chop saw from front to rear, hog out, and then weld back together and be surprised how it flows...to, say, 4500 RPM :) That's fine for the street, but to compare that to, say, an old Pro Stock running 5.13 rear gears...that said, I use a $50 spread bore I rebuild to a Brad Urban $500 carb any day.
The F.A.S.T. cars? A lot of them have a ton of old "sleeper" tricks thrown in. The real running jobs aren't at stock displacement--it only has to "appear" stock. The exhaust manifolds are ported, the leaf springs are clamped together, the column shift is running a manual valve body, etc. That's according to the old Guide to Muscle Cars and other car mags from the past, Hemmings doesn't discuss this. If you can locate a copy of Schneider's Performance Series Muscle Cars, July 1990, they have a great article on hiding aftermarket stuff to look stock and making a sleeper. Even my old 4-4-2 has the "Edelbrock" ground off the intake and the Crane 'box hidden in a cool spot.
I do get the point about pushing OEM to its limits. That's where Chevy, Ford, and Mopar shine--they made truck engines. Finding a forged bottom end for a Pontiac, Buick or Olds isn't as easy in a junkyard crawl. and if you want to see where OEM shines, then you can't go with a power adder. That means you're shifting over 6,000 RPM, like an old Pro Stocker, and you probably lost your streetability below 3,000 RPM. At least these days, if you want to push OEM, you can get a roller small block and stay OEM. You can find a good cylinder head with quick burn combustion chambers, tho it may not match a high riser intake from the 1960's. So maybe you use a spacer and a K&N stub stack. You can hide a Pertronix in the old distributor.
It would be fun to see a video like this, but some of us were tossing these together in the 1980's.
When I was young I bought a 383 2 barrel out of a 67 Chrysler Newport for $150 to swap into my 66 Belvedere with a blown 318. The only high dollar mods I made were swapping a factory 4 barrel intake with Carter carb that I bought for $25 from an ad in the newspaper, a carb rebuild kit, and I bought a brand new set of headers. The rest was trial and error (porting the cylinder heads, fabricating my own dual exhaust, suspension mods) and scrounging used parts for free or very cheaply . All work was done on a gravel drive way and it really sucked working underneath the car in the middle of winter. Some of my buddies had brand new, early 80's, Camaro Z/28's and Mustang GT's that thier rich Daddy's paid for. They were not happy at all that my '66 ( with "custom" Krylon, spray can, paint job which actaully looked ok from 10 feet away) could blow the doors off there cars on a straight road. Unfortunately, on the twisty's the old girl simply could not keep up.
We've run 10.4 @ 130mph with stock fuel tank, stock 5/16 line, mechanical pump, full interior, 3600 lbs. and stock suspension (with adjustable shocks). I laugh at the guys that buy the latest trick of the week...
Uncle Tony keeping it real! Funny when you said Cuba, I always think your picture above your computer looks like Castro! LOL. 99% of people no nothing about F.A.S.T. cars. Thos events are AWESOME!!!
Uncle tony...you are an absolute inspiration...I'm building a 65' Coronet SS tribute car and I see the bills getting bigger and bigger.Looking at your videos reminds me of the KISS principle. I use stock eliminator and F.A.S.T. as examples of what can be done with stock parts. Keep up the great work!! You have the best hotrod channel out there!!
It's just too easy to bolt on a twinscrew, turbo, etc. People have the attention span of a gnat nowadays. Why should they have to work for it? Instant gratification is what people get off on. Plus Instagram. If you made 72 minute videos your subscribers would drop. I'm not saying that I agree with it but people are fuckin' lazy. Keep up the good roots work, my friend. Thanks. Patrick
Thanks for keeping it simple AND real!
This is my entire thinking behind my 72 Dart sedan. It came into this world with a Slant, 8 3/4 rear, V8 torsion bars, and front discs (I've got the build sheet). It's already half-way set up for power and speed! I want to surprise people with what a Slant can do, so I started with the carb...then the head needed work, did that...added electric choke....now I'm about to add low boost to it (8-10lb) with a complete draw-thru setup from a 78 Buick. yes, I'll now have to add a hood scoop (kind of ostentatious on a 4 door if you ask me) due to the added height with the turbo setup, but hey, trying to run what I got and not go down the engine swap/new parts hole. that being said, I did pick up a 318/904 combo for $150 in case I blow a rod through the block!!!
I grew up in the 80s with Bob Shingler who had a 64 cuda and he was just like you. I learned from him bought my first 67 cuda off him and had a 318 with stock 340 heads a DC 509 cam with springs and he did alot of head work to the old irons. Had a 7 1/4 rear with 4.30 gears factory posi wich shocked me. 904 trans BM shift kit with 2200 converter. Had dual point distributer blue streak points. It ran well against others but never ran the track. You are 100% right about working and maximizing what you have first
OR you can take all the weight possible out of your Honda Civic and max out that little four cylinder and fucking scream down the road! Definitely cheaper than finding and building old iron! My ride now is a Kenworth with 915 cubic inch Cummins ISX. It puts out 600 HP and 2,050 ft. lbs. torque. It'll pull your house but not so great off the line though! lol
Test and tune what you’ve got. Cool! Reminds me of high school cars we all had in the ‘80’s. “Hand me down” V8 cars. No real money. Just figuring out tuning on what was there. My buds had GM stuff. I had the Mopar with torsion bars to factor in to adjustments. Good times! We really didn’t know much though. Buying crazy new speed parts was out for sure back then!
Agree with you 100% concerning getting the most out of your ride without breaking the bank. Several things work against that today: 1) rich piss-ants spending Daddy's money 2) Constant advertising that says what you got ain't good enough. 3) Little boys and girls today do not understand the basics of the cars.....if you will, the engineering dynamics of what they're looking at. 4) Inventiveness seems to have gone the way of the carrier pigeon...extinct. 5) the "gotta have it now" mentality. Tony, you and I grew up where money didn't grown on trees.....I sold my soul to farmer/ranchers throwing bales, branding cattle, shoveling out barns/stalls/irrigation ditches and lied my way onto construction at age 16 (yup, I'm 18). Very few kids today willing to make the sacrifices. I'm a 73 year old geezer and would not trade my scarred hands for anything. Character.
I and a buddy built a minibike with this same principle (we’re in our 60’s). My two boys built another one (at a different location). We both used HF Predator 212cc engines. Knowing this engine would make a 36” long bike wheelie off the line at WOT, my buddy and I lengthened the bike 2 inches. We ran it with no adjustments to the motor and it would do 25mph. We then made sure the throttle was opening all the way (it wasn’t). We then hobbled the governor without tearing in the motor. We then calculated the proper gearing to max out engine RPM potential. It jumped to 38mph... all stock. Right down to the air cleaner and muffler. Launches off line WOT and barely lifts front wheel. My boys took a different route. Stage one kit with new airfilter, exhaust, carb re-jet. Can’t get off line at WOT. Can’t win a roll on with the old guys bike either unless you have a really long straight away. Like really, really long. And theirs is too loud. No fun to ride. They were shocked and spent a little money they didn’t have to. KISS builds a better machine most ot the time.
I have a 68 torino with 351 Windsor,,built by Jim McFadden,,, Mr Ford in my state,,,fastest car I've ever owned,, nothing special just balanced right, one badass car,,
Yes! I got the parts cannon out to make my highschool 70 GTX do 10.86 in 1985, but had more fun getting my 76 Sunbird do 15.91 all stock. Guess which car I want back.
Keep it up bro! Good channel, glad I found it.
Sportsman racing is the best, and in the 60's, even the big guys were more reliant on ingenuity than cubic dollars. As it should be. You work your way up to an 8 or 9 second ride, not buy it from Detroit before you even know how to drive and then crash it.
Obviously one of the best UA-cam channels, and a gift to the automotive hobby. As an example of what you are talking about, I ran a QuadraJet on my 400 and 455 Pontiacs, while most people I knew went with 650 and 850 Holley double pumpers. Not saying they didn’t make more top end horsepower if we measured it, but my cars were infinitely more streetable, easy to live with, and cost me almost nothing. With the right amount of effort, a QJet can be a great choice
My '70 Roadrunner had H's on the back and G's on the front. Remember how we used to have to pump up the Polyglass to get more traction instead of dropping the pressure in the rears (like other tires of the day) ? I remember porting heads until I was nearly nuts just trying to science out the airflow...Devcon F......triple angle valve jobs....you name it. Same with intake manifolds......flow benches made with vacuum cleaners?
Uncle Tony has a point- car culture has become a pissing contest, with the trophy being whose dick (car) is the most shiny and has the longest modification list. That being said, some things are best to go aftermarket before the engine throws a rod thru the longblock.
I’m glad I put high pressure fuel pump internals on my ‘06 Mazdaspeed 6- with where I’m at with boost pressure on the turbo, having a bigger inter cooler core & downpipe/exhaust, plus the Cobb Accessport obd2 plug-in tuner, the oem direct injection fuel pump was just not cutting it, & the Cobb accessport showed real time AFR numbers.
The point being that the aftermarket has enhanced “hot-rodding ” so you can’t knock it completely. There’s a reason people from Cuba swim on tractor tires for 90 miles in the ocean to get to Florida, that’s cause Cuban limitations suck, so well said but I just had to chirp my 2 cents in
My best intake set up for a 318. Was a eldebrock. LD 4B. I got at a swap meet for 59$ a tq 850.for 50$ still in the box and a 1in spacer plate.ran good!!! Had 360 heads. 340 mag cam used. And a set of headers used. It was fast 1380s.on street tires
You can't imagine how much money was spent on that stock Roadrunner. I like laying blackies that's why I spend money aftermarket parts. I say buy quality parts. Plus I have kids and a wife that would like to spend time with me. I have a 84 Grand Prix with a 383. And I'm currently upgrading the Edelbrock heads to Afrs. Cause i don't know how to get the most out of a Quadrajet carb or how to port heads.
My brother had a 1970 Mark Donahue Javelin 390 4sp. He removed the stock Motorcraft 600 cfm carburetor and put a Holley 750 double pumper on it. This totally killed the performance!
This is all true!!!!!! LOL. You lived down the block back when you where on SI on Katan Ave. I lived on Armstrong of the corner of E Figurea. Had the metallic red 68 GTO and Grand National. I remember when you had a funny car and you made a pass up and down the block on the 4th of July! I think that was the holiday. I remember the scream of the engine! LMAO
Well put. But as basic as you’d like, there are the old DC bibles where Mother Mopar spent time to provide tried and true improvements to their engines, suspensions and drivetrains. They already did the destruction work for you. Still, pioneering on your own is a fun way to go, provided you have tooling available to make your own parts.sometimes the aftermarket is the cheapest and best answer. But, getting back to what your saying, these guys today who have their own TV show that call their cars street cars loaded up with mountain motors built by someone else, with full race chassis and so many aftermarket parts you’d have to be wealthy to afford to by them, and are relegated to towing them to the track because they can’t be street driven and then call them street racers is ridiculous. We built cars at h8me in our garage. Some things went to the shop, for roll bars to be properly installed and wheel wells tubbed and things of that sort when a guy or his buddies don’t weld is ok. The engine parts were sent out to be bored out, heads for machining after you port them yourself and that’s ok too. But paying someone for a turnkey race car takes the man out of the machine!
By the way, if you take a 440, put 906 heads on it that are home ported using Mopar Performance porting templates, bore it .030 over, 9-1 compression and MP .509 292 cam with the exhaust heat crossovers blocked off and a windage tray with a Holley single plane intake and 750 carb, and you’ve got 521 horsepower all day long. Now put that in a Duster with 8 3/4 rear end and 4.30 gears, 10X29.5 slicks and properly adjusted pinion snubber, and supper stock stock leaf springs 8n the rear, slant six torsion bars up front and drag shocks and you’ve got a fairly inexpensive 10.90 comp car with mostly stock parts. Keep in mind that this is too much for first time racers to handle, so be careful if you go this way. I would start with a 13 second car and get some time behind the wheel before setting off to run this fast, but it can be done!
I agree. Both my Charger and Ramcharger were modified in their previous lives and I took them back to stock parts. They have never run better except when they were new. Even the Ramcharger runs great, like it was meant to from factory.When I got it, half the sensors and vacuum lines, O2 sensor, etc., were gone and it barely ran. It would stall off the line and then couldn’t start it hot. Anyway, it was a lot of work and research, but well worth it. I’m not sure why so many people switch out stock intake manifolds, distributors, and ignition systems. I have owned dozens of Mopars throughout my life and never had trouble with anything stock Mopar, as you know, you just gotta take care of it and tinker, my favorite thing. Thanks Uncle Tony for all of the excellent content!
Finally this chuckle head has something to say that I can agree with.
For years I've been taking heat for using my 915 heads on my 440, I keep hering about the power I'm giving up with the old castiron heads. On the last refresh I bought new 2.18/1.81 valves springs, retainers and keepers and a new set of Harland Sharpe rockers. Maybe it's stubbornness or foolishness but my old wedge made 645 hp witch is just enough to keep the crank in the block. The heads are as good as I can get them but I did them and for me that works.
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Hear hear! The only reason I even started fucking with cars is because I've got a milling machine to make custom crap to fit any junk yard part to any other junkyard part. That together with parts bin engineering and you can accomplish anything. I wouldn't dream of spending real money on car crap