1) "Christianity" doesnt attack people. The crusades would be the only questionable point in that statement, but over 2000 years that is really not much. Christian people who run countries attack people, but its extraordinarily rare for Christians to wage war based on the religion. 2) The winner would be the one who is actually correct, as they would have God on their side. If there is no God, then it would fall to the one with the best ideas at this point, as none of the major religions is small enough to be extinguished in a short period of time.
I disagree. 1. The teachings of Christ are often not invoked for the purposes of going to war, but that doesn't mean the Christian Church (I'm labeling Christianity because it encompasses the religion) has not been. Throughout the entire European era from the moment Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Church has been instrumental in wars. The first example is the destruction of the Library of Alexandria and thousands of "pagan" statues within the first handful of years after Christianity was made the state religion. Antiquity was destroyed mainly because of Christian belief (and led by Bishops) that non-Christian worship was idolatry. The "Divine right of kings" made the Church as powerful if not more powerful than most of nations who ruled, especially during the Dark Ages. Wars of reformation and Protestant wars were certainly related to Christianity as were subjugation of "Cathars" and Heretics. The Crusaders were the only ones bold enough to make it SOLELY about theology. 2. This is a very "us" vs "them" perspective on God, which is baked into the Christian worldview. I release some videos on the subject soon. But there is a great argument for God/Higher Power etc being a universally true concept, but always interpreted and mislabeled by humanity. As Talmudic tradition later clarifies: the righteous "enter the kingdom of heaven" regardless of their faith. Christians love to liken God to the Father. Consider a father with four young sons. The sons are all clubbing each other and saying "God loves me more." It doesn't really make sense.
@@mansal-denton I think you have a very poisoned perspective: 1) Destroying statues is not war. Every culture destroys statues from its predecessor... 2) Divine right of kings was NOT about war. It was about ruling lineages. and there is nothing about that in the bible. That is just people trying to convince other people God was on their side. Again nothing to do with Christianity, everything to do with people. 3) Christians are the most accepting people on the planet. Are we perfect? No, far from it. But only in our societies are other religions welcome without constant persecution (sure there was the Spanish inquisition, but that was 1 state, and 1 period of time, and again not backed up by biblical teachings). 4) Your point about the father and kids is just dumb on its face. I cant believe I am gonna even respond to but you seem to be completely lacking in familial dynamics, and also in understanding human nature. This also has nothing to do with war... a) From the familial point, kids compete for their parents affections, even when parents make it clear that they love them the same, and there are no acts that can be done to change that. b) It is human nature to compete. Men and women do it differently but both compete fiercely. Just because you become a Christian does not change your nature. Infact its fighting that nature that nature in a Christian way that shows that you are a Christian. We lose that fight regularly, even the best and most Godly of us. We are not different in our core than every other human, but the goal is to do all of those evil things LESS than the rest of the world, and eventually do them not at all (but that is simply an impossible goal with our nature the way it is. c) Extension of both a and b. If you dont believe me... Ask yourself why when an Atheist controls a powerful county it goes to war and often starves his people in his own ambition (not always on purpose)? Ask yourself which was more peaceful: Islam anytime they were ununified, or Christianity (even as subdivided as it has been since the fall of Rome)? How is it that so many counties exist (and have existed)( in Europe, and how there is so little war (again judge it against none Christian areas)? Ask yourself why Christians have lead the world for 1700 years, and in that time why so much progress has been made. At the very least you have to admit that its a stabilizing influence. Yet if you open your mind I think you will find that the truths Christians teach come from a source greater than humanity can accomplish on its own...
1) "Christianity" doesnt attack people. The crusades would be the only questionable point in that statement, but over 2000 years that is really not much. Christian people who run countries attack people, but its extraordinarily rare for Christians to wage war based on the religion.
2) The winner would be the one who is actually correct, as they would have God on their side. If there is no God, then it would fall to the one with the best ideas at this point, as none of the major religions is small enough to be extinguished in a short period of time.
I disagree.
1. The teachings of Christ are often not invoked for the purposes of going to war, but that doesn't mean the Christian Church (I'm labeling Christianity because it encompasses the religion) has not been. Throughout the entire European era from the moment Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Church has been instrumental in wars.
The first example is the destruction of the Library of Alexandria and thousands of "pagan" statues within the first handful of years after Christianity was made the state religion. Antiquity was destroyed mainly because of Christian belief (and led by Bishops) that non-Christian worship was idolatry.
The "Divine right of kings" made the Church as powerful if not more powerful than most of nations who ruled, especially during the Dark Ages. Wars of reformation and Protestant wars were certainly related to Christianity as were subjugation of "Cathars" and Heretics.
The Crusaders were the only ones bold enough to make it SOLELY about theology.
2. This is a very "us" vs "them" perspective on God, which is baked into the Christian worldview. I release some videos on the subject soon. But there is a great argument for God/Higher Power etc being a universally true concept, but always interpreted and mislabeled by humanity.
As Talmudic tradition later clarifies: the righteous "enter the kingdom of heaven" regardless of their faith.
Christians love to liken God to the Father. Consider a father with four young sons. The sons are all clubbing each other and saying "God loves me more." It doesn't really make sense.
@@mansal-denton I think you have a very poisoned perspective:
1) Destroying statues is not war. Every culture destroys statues from its predecessor...
2) Divine right of kings was NOT about war. It was about ruling lineages. and there is nothing about that in the bible. That is just people trying to convince other people God was on their side. Again nothing to do with Christianity, everything to do with people.
3) Christians are the most accepting people on the planet. Are we perfect? No, far from it. But only in our societies are other religions welcome without constant persecution (sure there was the Spanish inquisition, but that was 1 state, and 1 period of time, and again not backed up by biblical teachings).
4) Your point about the father and kids is just dumb on its face. I cant believe I am gonna even respond to but you seem to be completely lacking in familial dynamics, and also in understanding human nature. This also has nothing to do with war...
a) From the familial point, kids compete for their parents affections, even when parents make it clear that they love them the same, and there are no acts that can be done to change that.
b) It is human nature to compete. Men and women do it differently but both compete fiercely. Just because you become a Christian does not change your nature. Infact its fighting that nature that nature in a Christian way that shows that you are a Christian. We lose that fight regularly, even the best and most Godly of us. We are not different in our core than every other human, but the goal is to do all of those evil things LESS than the rest of the world, and eventually do them not at all (but that is simply an impossible goal with our nature the way it is.
c) Extension of both a and b. If you dont believe me... Ask yourself why when an Atheist controls a powerful county it goes to war and often starves his people in his own ambition (not always on purpose)? Ask yourself which was more peaceful: Islam anytime they were ununified, or Christianity (even as subdivided as it has been since the fall of Rome)? How is it that so many counties exist (and have existed)( in Europe, and how there is so little war (again judge it against none Christian areas)? Ask yourself why Christians have lead the world for 1700 years, and in that time why so much progress has been made. At the very least you have to admit that its a stabilizing influence. Yet if you open your mind I think you will find that the truths Christians teach come from a source greater than humanity can accomplish on its own...
That is terrible for all to say that the Muslim have already lost before they start the conversation, unless they continue to deceive them selves..
I don't know what you mean. Can you rephrase this?