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How Can the Bible Be Inerrant If It Contains Variants
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2018
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In this episode of the Cold-Case Christianity Broadcast, J. Warner answers listener email about the existence of variants in the earliest manuscripts we have for the New Testament. Does the fact that ancient copies of the Gospels don’t agree entirely mean that we can’t trust them? How does this impact our notion of Biblical inerrancy?
All you have to do is read the Bible and you know it’s from our Creator. It PERFECTLY diagnoses the state of our heart in a book written thousands of years ago.
Amen sister
I could just see Bart telling a friend how to get together:
"Tell everybody the food is ready"
Later on, he finds out that his friend had said:
"It's time to eat."
Immediately he blocks his friend from all communication, and calls him a liar, and bemoans to everyone how he can't be trusted for anything...
Or - he's extremely inconsistent in his beliefs.
Inerrancy is a terrible word to use for anything written by, or interpreted by people... The Bible says it is inspired and then proceeds to tell us what that means....that it is truthful, and good for teaching...
Thanks for the video. Very informative and easy to follow.
You are welcome!
You have a way Of putting the cookies on the bottom shelf. Praise God
Thank you, Detective Wallace. This helped me much much much.
Glad to hear it
Thank you for this, JWW! I'm planning a way of doing my best to help my family and friends come to true faith Jesus, and sending videos like this is definitely part of the plan. During family parties it's very difficult to talk about these topics (didn't turn out so well last time), so I decided to reach out to them 1 on 1 via text with a nice list of videos that they can watch. This one will definitely make the list! I also saved it to my "Abba God" Play list which has lots of amazing videos from you and other brilliant apologists like Dr. Frank Turek, Dr. Hugh Ross, Dr. William Lane Craig, Lee Strobel, etc. (You are always included in this list, when I send to people- right before Strobel) :) God bless you and your loved ones!
J....... thank you so much for all the awesome info and transparency.
The sheer numbers of copies makes it possible to get back the original autograph because the scribes all didn't make the same mistakes.
Christian parents and pastors don’t hide this from your kids. Teach them
It has always been my understanding that the vast majority (like around 90%) of the variations are very minor spelling changes. I am surprised that you did not mention that. But I'm not complaining. What information you did provide, along with examples and illustrations, are very powerful in their own right. Thank you.
I think we need to look at context and the ideals the authors trying to get across through the inspiration of the holy spirit....a person that speaks and reads in Spanish or French is not going to be reading verbatim the exact word's translators chose for the King James or the N.I.V. , NLT, excetra....has the message been changed..
Not in one single case that I have seen......
When the bible says in Revelations cursed is the man that changes one word of this book, it was talking about changing the words of that book, the book of Revelations ...
That is an issue we as the church struggled with when people wanted a modern English bible....don't change a word or you are cursed one camp hollered....but would God ever have a problem with making His word easier to understand...
And the issues with the variants...
Like the number of angels at the tomb....if there were two, there was certainly one....and the list goes on and on , these petty little differences mean nothing compared to the overall message...
Thanks for this video, the information you provided will aid me in an upcoming debate over this topic.
The early church limited it's doctrine of inerrancy to the things that actually affected doctrine. They admitted there could be some errors about specific details.
Using this video for a reference on inerrancy for a paper for seminary.😁 Thanks Jim.
Such great content and teaching. Thank you!!
So how do we know that the Bible we read is trustworthy if "original" writings are not found?. Does that mean what we read is not authentic or genuine?
He addresses this 19 minutes in. Keep watching.
It requires faith. But I think the fulfilled prophecy and the fact that no variants really effect core doctrine or prophecy shows that it's real
We have faith that God's providence preserved it well enough.
I just found this. Thankyou for this
Thank you for this job. It helps more in my faith. Be blessed abundantly in the Name of the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
if we dont have originals how do we know what we have is what was originally written
Please do a talk on the differences in the Masoretic Old Testament and the Septuagint Greek Old Testament. The later being based on a much older Hebrew text family and most likely more accurate than our English Bibles are based on.
Are you Catholic?
Thank you, I'm now understanding it much better.
The problem with complex questions is that complex answers are sometimes needed. Kinda like when a child asks you to explain time or gravity or light. You could give the simple answer, but the truth is that you could go much deeper.
But what about the part in the scriptures that say "let he who adds or takes away from God's word be accursed" ? Someone obviously has been adding or taking away from the words.. this does worry me a tad.
Why worry? The message still comes through doesn't it? Nobody had a photocopier back then. Its not like God would expect humans, who God knows are flawed, to pass the Gospel word for word, perfectly. God likely mixed things up on purpose, just because he knew everything including knowing how humans will want to pick apart his work over petty things.
In the end, he will write in his peoples hearts and minds and all will know Him. If you are that worried, just stick with the Lords Prayer and Moses song
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This verse only talks about the Revelation, not the whole Bible. When the Revelation was written, the New Testament was not compiled in a single book. This happened later.
As textual critic Daniel Wallace would say, we need to reject radical skepticism and apsolute certainty.
Whether it say "He did" or "Jesus did" or whether Jesus felt "commpassion" or "became angry" it doesn't change the important parts of the text. You can be sure that important doctrines are preserved and that you are reading the actual words of Jesus and what the NT writters wrote about Him.
Great video!
Thanks!
Awesome video
Thank you this helps so much. You are brilliant!!! 😊
wbat about the story of the woman caught in adultry and the Short ending of Mark
What writing’s are there of disciples of the apostles and earliest church fathers please? This is fascinating, I never knew about this! 🙌
In science a study that has a small pool of participants or experiments is considered unreliable compared with one which has a large ‘sample size’.
🌟Can you speak a video answer as to
"why there are some Bibles that do not include certian verses". Thx
even if the Bible contains minor "errors", it is still God's word because, while the message is from God the authors were humans and humans err. It is as simple as that.
The flaw with the scholarship in the West is It presupposes that there is an autograph not autographs
It is the ‘word of God’ not the ‘words of God’ one is a communication, the other is the means of communication.
Beyond the words is ‘our understanding of the meaning of the words’, ‘the cultural, temporal understanding of the words’, and numerous other barriers to good communication, why stop with just the precise transmissions of the letters.
If Bart expects God to perfectly transmit every letter, should God not also magically change the text over time to fit cultural and semantic changes and individually taylor the words to fit our personal understanding.
Meanwhile back in reality …
Is this inerrancy thing really important? If humans are involved then the message is not perfect but the message will be understood all the same.
Thank you! ❤
In 2 Kings 13:1 in the 23rd year of Joash's reign over Judah, Jehoahaz begins his reign over Israel for 17 years. 17 + 23 is 40; but in 2 Kings 13:9-10 Jehoahaz dies and his son reigns over Israel in the 37th year of Joash''s reign, which is only 14 years, not 17. Explain.
Maybe his son was co-king with him for a few years?
You're one of the few apologists tackling these truths. Others focus only on Islam and allow Ehrman to run riot with his distortions, leading so many astray.
I really hope and will pray that Bart Ehrman repents some day because I'm sure his teachings have hurt the faith of many Christians. My question is why would anyone want to o that? I understand struggling with faith and even parts of Gods word but then to go on and use your education with no other purpose but to try and destroy the faith of another is beyond evil. This man must have some personal demons as well as real demons to motivate him for what he chose in life for his career
I think that for the most part he was sincere in his search for Christ. Where I think he went wrong is that he was too much of a perfectionist, and in that the bible would fall apart. I'm not saying that the bible is not the living word of God, but I am saying that Bart demanded from the bible something that it did not need to provide in order to relay a saving faith in God.
Hold on. When you said "You believe what you believe you want to be true instead of what is true" could be applied to Christians too, not just Bart Erhman. Christians want to believe the Bible is inerrant and that Jesus is God, even if he isnt.
Not completely true, I left Christianity for a couple years to find the true God, because I thought it was arrogant to believe Christianity based on where I lived and grew up, not what I just wanted to believe. And God answered because I sought Him with little heart I had left. And His answer was Jesus. How great and awesome is He 🎉
Just the same, if God told me Buddhism was the truth, I would believe it. Because I care only of the truth, not my personal belief
Protestants, including evangelicals have no idea what they’re talking about with regard to this. They say that the Scriptures are without error and infallible. They also say that scripture alone can be trusted to be the truthful word of God and anything extra biblical must submit to the Scriptures themselves. The Scriptures themselves do not claim inerrancy or infallibility, therefore inerrancy of Scripture is an extra biblical doctrine.
Well the Bible says it's divinely inspired and all of it is profitable for teaching.
So you base your religion and life on deductive reasoning? You want people to give their lives and souls on a game of guess who?
Can you explain what you mean? “You want people to give souls on game of guess who?” What do you mean by that?
Can you expound on what you said?