He seems to have conveniently overlooked the fact that if the earth was really flat you would able to see the "ice wall" hundreds of miles away, stretching out in a huge ark, , due to the lack of curvature.
I once fell off the edge of the flat plain, it was the first time I died (nowadays I'm already counting 4 death incidents), but luckily I fully recovered. Just wanted to share my motivating story...
I live in Adelaide in South Australia. The angular momentum is a killer out here on the edge of the disk. Our teapots just slide off the table unless we bank up one side of the floor.
Oh yeah sure😏we believe you😂 What I think that happened... You were yelling that the earth is flat. They called you crazy. You said that the sphere is a lie and you left because the fe lie is more important than the job
the Gleeson map even has the word "projection" printed on it. I always ask the flat earthers who claim this is a flat earth map to look up that term with relation to maps.
What is really funny is that Al Biruni (circa 1000 AD),did a lot of work creating AE maps using much of the same mathematics that he used to calculate Earths circumference.... so basically, AE projections (like the Gleason's one), prove the globe!!
There are dozens of projections exactly bc there is no perfect way to place surface of a sphere onto 2d and preserve shape, size, and distance, etc. Why someone would then pick 1 of those many projections and then assume it's an accurate representation of earth i have no idea (confirmation bias i suppose). The irony that earth being a globe necessarily creates those very flaws in 2d projections is lost on flerfers.
What if a map was produced with these same standards, but centered on the South Pole, and showing the North Pole is an ice wall? Wouldn't a Flat Earther say that the new map was also accurate? Why is the first one okay, just because it was first? Does the first one show East Germany and West Germany, because those were real places?
So, his map of a flat Earth is proof, yet a map on a globe is some sort of conspiracy and coverup? This is the type of logic that proves the illogical.
. His map isn't really a map either. It has a patent. Maps don't have patents. They have copyright. Although that's an irrelevance as no rational person could possibly believe his nonsense.
I believe the sky is green, and I'm right. No matter what you or the scientists say, you're all wrong ... even when I look up and see the blue sky, it's obviously some kind of global conspiracy led by NASA probably using giant blue light projectors from space. Oh wait!
My daughter is 8 and and won a certificate last week for her science predictions. They gave one out to a person in each year. She now has more qualifications than most flat earthers.
I too am raising an 8 year old. Congratulations on her certificate! From experience I can tell you that the urge to brag about your children's achievements will only grow with each accomplishment. By the time they get into law school or finish second in a half marathon there will be no way to contain yourself. Just go with it, I have to release onto the first half dozen people I see and so what if they're complete strangers. It's not about them, I don't want to burst apart at the seams!
The thing that makes me cringe is that complacent, condescending smile of his: as if he was the only person "in the know", the only one on the glob... on the plane to have a clue. Nothing can shake such a misplaced confidence, which makes that person utterly dangerous.
Flat earther on Lake Michigan “I can see Chicago 90 miles away clearly” Flat earther literally on Antarctic coastline “I can’t see the giant wall from here”
@@erikgoossens1 You mean the Military that is disguised as Penguins or even better Polar Bears ( ;D ) that is stopping us from getting to the Ice Wall?
I have no idea how anyone can look at the shapes of Australia and New Zealand on a flat earth map and still believe that the map represents the shape of the earth. Also, I am shocked that there are actually flat earthers in those countries because it should be obvious to them how wrong the flat earth model is.
You think these morons have ever been to australia yet alone belive in australia? Haha, some think we are paid actors.. im still waiting for my check :/
I always imagine a sphere so large that it was impossible to tell that it wasn't a flat plane. A sphere of infinite size would be functionally equivalent to a flat plane. If you had a smooth sphere that curved only the smallest fraction of a micron over a distance larger than the known universe would it be flat or round? Yes, it's round but at the same time it's flatter than anything in the universe.
I know , flerfers try really hard !! They really do !! We will never take them seriously , though, because they have never shown an actual photograph of a flat earth !!!
Hey guys I know it’s off topic, but I’ve been trying to get sci man Dan to realize Kent’s whack an atheist Wednesday is a rip off of his tinfoil Tuesday, and it’s provable on Kent’s own video when he replied to a video sci man Dan did on him on a tinfoil Tuesday. If anyone can help I think instead of Dan talking about how much hovind has whacked him, he should rightfully be taking credit for kent creating whack an atheist Wednesday, because he was triggered that he was on a “tinfoil Tuesday”. In the video kent replied to he said he needed a similar segment for evolutionists, and came up with whack an atheist Wednesday. I don’t expect Dan to do a video on it, or something, but when he opens he always talks about how many times he has been whacked, when he should rightfully be taking credit for creating whack an atheist Wednesday.
I was in the navy for 14 years. I patrolled many places. Friends and acquaintances in the fleet patrolled places I never got to. None of us ever patrolled any ice wall. "Ohhh the ice wall is off limits" oh really? How is that enforced? "Oooohhhhh it's patrolled!" By who?!?!?
The one thing everybody seems to agree on is that nobody has ever seen this "Ice Wall". Either it is standing on solid ground (and Antarctica is a continent), or it is floating on the oceans (and therefore incapable of preventing the water cascading off The Edge).
And once again we have a flat earther who, with no sense of irony uses Google Earth as part of his presentation. Is he unaware that Google Earth is a model based on a spherical earth?
Love ya Scimandan, I must correct you though. Flat earth is a belief, not a theory, there isn’t even enough scientific method involved for credence as a hypothesis level.
I think theory just roles off the tongue because it used to be considered a theory before Earth being a Globe was confirmed and so most things about Flat Earth in historical books still use the term theory. However I entirely agree that it is just a belief, it would just take getting used to to keep referring to it as such
@Asterix - A belief can be true or false. A hypothesis is a justified belief that is not known to be true; a hypothesis is a belief that is backed up with some supporting evidence of the scientific method. A theory is a substantiated explanation for an occurrence that has come to a conclusion; a judgment or decision reached by scientific method with consistent repeatable observations and experiments. A pseudoscience is a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method; making claim to be both scientific and factual but are incompatible with the scientific method. The greatest barrier to truth is believing you already have it, or that truth is unobtainable. Our best route to truth is the scientific method, there is no reason to believe in anything and no reason in believing. We can choose to be reasonable people, or unreasonable people.
I like it how they don't question or acknowledge how regular maps have evolved over the years and gotten more accurate. But then takes the original flat earth map as being 100% accurate.
They are very selective which map they choose to accept, they accept Gleason though his map is intended to illustrate time, while ignoring Captain Cook's map of the Southern Hemisphere from 1778, which shows the position of the South Pole.
Well the man hit the nail on the head when he said “a LITTLE bit of research”. A little bit of research makes for either a very stupid human or a very dangerous human or both.
I have to say that while I know flat earth is complete rubbish, I can't help but be glad it's around as it's wonderful entertainment and keeps me smiling.
The problem is, these people can get high up in places of power. I shudder to think if a president of the U.S. appointed a flat earther as head of education
@@MyAramil I don't know if that would he worse than if the U.S. President were to appoint a young Earth creationist as Head of Education. Both are definitely terrifying prospects.
I am french and I was regularly traveling in California for my job. There, I noticed a frequent road sign with a single word : "Xing". It took me several years to figure out that this was not intended for the important Chinese population of California. I also remember a very cryptic road sign, I saw while traveling by train in Japan : a child with a hammer hitting his head (or falling toward his head?). Unfortunately, I did not take a picture. That one will probably remain a mystery forever.
If the Gleason map was an FE map as the flat-earthers claim, why was it allowed by the nameless "them" to be created in first place? The project would have had to take a considerable amount of time to be measured and calculated, including lots of traveling round the world e.g. to the ice wall. Hmm, something's wrong here!
Yes, excellent point. Whatever the situation may be now, the “ice wall” certainly couldn’t have been patrolled by the combined armed forces of all the nations or drones for centuries. Why are there no written descriptions of the “ice wall” from those who originally mapped it?
@@michaelhall2709 good point. Another point to consider is if ALL these countries have maned crews patrolling the "ice wall" that is a HUGE flotilla of ships, aircraft, and even perhaps ground crew. Do the Flatards think that no country EVER lost a ship plane or anything else during their patrol? And of course not even 1 of the THOUSANDS of crew , EVER spilled the secret even on their death bed? I am a professional magician, there is a saying among magicians ( I have herd it from others as well) "The ONLY way for 2 people to keep a secret is if one of them is dead." It would be literally IMPOSSIBLE for this to be kept 100% a secret for how many hundreds of years. Even if the flifers want to claim that it is all done remotely via electronic means, it would not have been possible for it to be patrolled remotely even just 20 years ago...
@@michaelhall2709 c’mon, aliens patrol the ice wall, the same ones that the Antartica accord protect lol 😂 My cousin wired up a few bases in Antarctica in the (80s I think it was,) and got iced in so he spent an extra 3 or 6 months there waiting for a window for travel iirc. He did lots of walking everywhere, photographed lots and unfortunately no aliens, ice wall or conspiracy stuff. He had free reign from what I recall he told my parents, personally haven’t kept in much contact as he is decade or 2 older than me
Yes, it's difficult to claim the "fact" that the Earth is really flat to be a jealously guarded secret of the Illuminati/freemasons/NASA/knights templar and also claim the Gleason map is real...
It always bugs me when people use that map because there's a painfully simple anti-proof that they never seem to talk about, and ignore when it's brought up, and that is pure distance. If that map was right, circumnavigating "the ice wall" (or even say, the Atlantic Ocean part of it) would take far longer than making that same trip above the equator. Make both of those trips, going the same speed. Then tell me your map is right.
There's also another painfully simple anti-proof in the fact that using this map and the circling of the sun and moon as the flat-Earthers believe it happens, people in different locations would see a different phase of the moon on the same night, when we know that the entire world sees the same phase of the moon on the same night. For example, let's say we have a full moon in London at midnight, which places the moon over the Congo and the sun on the opposite side of the world. At that moment, according to this map, South Africa would see a new moon, Morocco would see a quarter moon with the lit portion on the left side, Iran would see a quarter moon with the lit portion on the right side, and the people in the Congo would be looking straight up at the moon's south pole and seeing a half moon. The fact that this doesn't happen, and the fact that this model of the flat Earth is incapable of depicting the entire world seeing the same phase of the moon on the same night (or, in fact, depicting anyone below the equator seeing a full moon ever), disproves this model of the flat Earth.
It's MORE astonishing that they can't even READ. How long would it take to find the Antarctic Treaty they keep referring to and actually sit and read the bloody thing? It's not hard. Grab a cup of coffee or tea, slushy, smoothy, whatever and just.... READ THE DAMN THING!!! Hahahaha 🤔🤣🤣🤣 😎🇬🇧
Just went to check after reading your comment. Took me less than two minutes to find it and download the original text. It’s almost as if the flerfers are in an echo chamber or something…
@@lidbass Hahaha yeah, they just hear someone else who believes in similar things they do say it, then just repeat it without confirming it. Pitiful 🤦😏
Let's also not forget Antarctica's "pole of inaccessibility", the furthest point from any ocean. The Soviets built some sort of (since abandoned) station there, where a bust of Lenin still exists.
I am honestly amazed at how after so many years of debunking flerfs that their arguments haven't changed beyond slight variation, yet the debunking has evolved
And when you argue with them about a new topic or something you know a lot about they have no counter argument because Dubay and the likes haven’t made a video about it so they have no information to counter your argument with.
Hey when you know everything about any topic, you will never learn even one other thing no matter what. Why would you? You already have all the answers right?
@@tompiper9276 an "evolution denier?" as an insult? I am totally against flat-earthers and totally for science so I would like to kindly point out that evolution is a religion. We all know the SCIENTIFIC METHOD requires ANY scientific claims MUST 1. be able to be tested 2. be able to replicate any experiment ( provided the same methods are followed exactly...) Evolution's entire foundation is made on claims that " a single-celled organism spontaneously existed from a "primordial soup" of amino acids " AND purport that "omni-organism" over time slowly became every single living organism on earth...and yet those same "scientists" have NEVER demonstrated ANY single-celled event occuring in a laboratory ( anywhere -or- otherwise ) - Can you imagine boldly claiming that the first COMPUTER somehow spontaneously existed in someone's garage? ( with an operating system pre-installed AND it also starts spawning / auto-assembling computers that can make more computers with the same ability ; and they auto-fight virus' and auto-heal and develop communicattion protocols AND can ALSO become ANY other living thing on earth with enough time ? ) - ALL just by accidental amino-acids and lighting ? That's how ludacris the religion of evolution sounds to actual scientists - they're mad ! You kind sir should not be trying to insult people by associating evolution with intelligence -- evolution and flat-earth are in the same category scientifically speaking - disproven theories - ( genetics directly disproves evolution ) and until you can make REAL science on your evolutionary claims you should be logically obligated to setlle down with your false claims and instead learn to respect everyone's religion -we have been respecting your religion of evolution - good day mate
They need to take there P900s with them it surely must be the only way to see it if they think a bay sticking out a few miles from the rest of "the wall" somehow stops you from seeing it on a flat earth.
It never ceases to amaze me that people don't understand the projections used to make different maps. You'd think they'd realize something is very different when they look at the shapes of the various continents on the different projections.
"That's how the tourists can never see the ice wall" ... But if the world is flat, and they're going that close *on the ocean*... why can they still not see it?
Another fine face palm moment, I used to be a generator tech with the British Antarctic Survey on Rothera, Adelaide Island. it's always hilarious to see these guys, getting it all wrong with their "proofs" of a flat earth, especially when it is involved with the Ice wall and Antarctica.
I like the ominous music playing while the side by side portrayal of the maps is showing. Really gives it a “mystery vibe” when there really is no mystery. 💯
The "flat Earth map" he uses is patented as a projection of the globe Earth described as a "New and improved time chart" and is described as "The extortion of the map from that of a globe consists, mainly of straightening out the meridian lines allowing each to retain their original value from Greenwich, the equator to the two poles." The patent application is a pdf online; US497917.
And it says right there on the map, _"on the projection of J. S. Christopher, Modern College, Blackheath, England"._ But he's put out a video today (18 April 2022) saying _"This is_ not _a projection map."_
My question to FE would be: Why is the "ice wall" shown to have a specific distance to the earth's edge? Someone would have had to determine the distance by traversing the "ice wall" to the edge even though according to FE it is not possible.
Not to forget that an ice wall isn't a magical barrier, we could mine through it, climb over it, etc. It's not a dead end with out modern tech in any way shape or form, just an inconvenience.
Those brave, fearless flat-earthers are putting everything they have in their expedition to scale the ice wall and cross the interminable frozen waste beyond! Oh wait.
@@spiritbx1337 So if global warming would melt the "icewall" we would not drown, we would have a global draught? All the water that conveniently finds its level would run straight over the edge...
The probem with letting flat earthers "do their own research" is that they immediately stop "researching" when something fits their narrative, they know that if they kept going it would debunk their precious pancake.
I would almost give odds that no flat earther even knows how to find the Antarctic Treaty, much less read it. It's altogether too easy to make unfounded claims about it.
@@paulcrumley9756 Agreed. I mean, the thought of a flerf googling the Antarctic Treaty, discovering that it’s not a big document and is really easy to understand is beyond me.
Normally I always listen with an open mind to try to discover how anyone could think this way, but this one is just silly. Even the flat earthers from the 1800's understood that the flat earth map needs to match observed reality at the most basic level.
The Antarctic circle, like the Arctic circle delineates, the areas where 24 hours of daylight or night can occur. And of course it corresponds to the angular tilt of the earths axis. Thanks Dan and keep up the good work.
@@clivedavis6859 yes I live at 70 degrees north , the circle is about 5 hours drive south of here. But down there, the midnight sun only lasts a few days. Six weeks here and of course six months a further twenty degrees north at the pole.
@@bunnykiller 42 .... Hmm, no it does not fit here.. Ow, what? ... Ah yes, you asked a question, and for that a realy original question, so I was wondering if that answer "42" would fit as an answer... well, it does not, so I have to keep on searching for the right question.... You do not understand, you say? Ow sorry, read Douglas Adams' "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" serie of books, then you understand. It's absurdity and it is fiction (science fiction).
@@SysterYster For some reason I like that one most too. It might be beacuse it sounds so scientific, but it is definitely better than Call of C'thulu or Night whisperer.
I work for a merchant company which brought many materials to the antartic for the science stations. If there was some big secrect ice wall up there they would have had to sign some secrecy-act form.....guess what....nada.....number of ships multiplied by number of crew, add office staff.... and no rumour what so ever. And then I don not mention the articles publised by the crew regarding their memorable voyage... but they are all bribed I guess....same like NASA....
Jimmy Buffett will be performing a concert in Antarctica from December 1st through the 14th so this is a perfect opportunity for flat Earthers to listen to some good music and to discover there’s no damn wall.
australias prosperity must be coming from all the NASA/Illuminatti money flooding in ( they keep telling us it is Iron Ore) . respect to all those NZ, Argentinean soldiers that have been guarding the ice wall. There must be a market for an icewall tour where flurfs can bungee-jump over the edge... would make a hectic theme park.
You're in the southern hemisphere so you don't really exist, you're just millions of actors being paid by a conspiracy with seemingly inexhaustible wealth to pretend to be living normal lives just in case anyone visits the sets in Mexico where all of Latin America is faked.
Of course he has blocked you. They have to silence the opposition so they can spread their BS unopposed. Gotta lie to flerf. As for your animation, hit him with a copyright strike.
Jos Leys, maybe if you would stop making utter fools out of flat earthers by showing how they are wrong, they might stop banning you from their channels. How many flerfs have banned you, anyway? Let me look... Wow... That is a long list. Good job! 👍
So…. “doctored” photos of the spherical earth from space are proof that the earth is flat, AND man-made maps from 1892 are proof? Got it. Photo editing - bad, 130 year-old map - good.
It's more that flat earthers are very archaic. They can't comprehend what a composite image is (which is what nearly all photos of earth are) and they don't understand how cameras work nor do they understand how exposure/contrast works. The dumbest thing I ever hear them say is in regards to ISS footage. They think it's all underwater because you can't see stars and all this dust appears to be floating around.
Exactly! Sounds like the argument of scientific discoveries being made up because they contradict the bible. Gracefully ignoring the fact that the bible itself has changed countless times by translations and alterations.
What I find hilarious about flat earthers is that they would have an easier time convincing me that the earth is flat than they would convincing me that they actually figured it out themselves. Collectively or otherwise.
The level of quality of their researches is always impressive. I especially love the way they came to the conclusion that the Gleeson map is correct, that none of them have tried to fact check the measures or anything that would actually help them in "proving" the flat-Earth and "disproving" reality.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo well, hate to break it to you but the gleason map is supposedly accurate to timezones. It was called "earth from above" in college geography. nevermind that all maps are inaccurate and simply projections. The current maps are definitely not accurate either. neither is the globe technically speaking. They are all only working models at best.
@@cloudcoastgaming I'm aware of that, but strangely they don't seem to. I often said on other videos that I have the feeling that it should be explained a little bit in school, it should be shown that theirs different types of world maps and the differences between them. Maybe it's already that way, I can't really tell, highschool has been over 20 years ago for me and I don't recall ever being taught about the differences between maps, or even their appropriate name, I might just not have been at school that day, hard to tell. But as I said, it looks like Flat-Earthers aren't aware of what the Gleeson map represent, nor that it's described as being a projection of the globe. I'd really love to see a "proper" attempt for them to make a map, it shouldn't be hard since they'd be going from a flat disk to a flat image, and for us it would be hillarious to see how butchered the map would be compared to reality.
Flat-earthers always talk about how they can only believe what they have seen with their own eyes. Yet they refuse to fly to Antarctica or into space to prove their point, contradicting themself and their believe. Hilarious!
At one point, Joe Rogan asked Eddie Bravo if he'd go to Antarctica if someone paid for it. And he said he'd send someone in his place. Obviously so that he could continue to believe whatever.
unless they made the rocket themself, i doubt they gonna believe it even if they went to space, as they already suggest all window on rocket, space station are fish-eye len.
they learned their lesson in trying to "prove" flat earth postulates... for example the water/canal with the 2 boards with holes with the light... raise your light up, higher " Ohhh thats interesting" and "15 degree an hour drift"... dont test, it screws up the outcome.... So, no flights are allowed....
_"...it just takes a little bit of research especially if you have the flat earth map..."_ Reminds me of the Flat Earther who told me he was convinced after 60 seconds of research. Indeed, reading the Antarctic Treaty would be too much research. Thinking critically about SH distances on the "Flat Earth" (Gleason) map would be way too much research.
I love how the flat earther's beloved gleason map is a projection and says so right on it. I.e. it represents the spherical earth as a flat surface, which is what all map projections do.
His argument is essentially that the tour operators hide the ice wall by taking you to places where you can't see it. He didn't need a map to make that argument. BTW there are many other commercial tours of Antarctica including ones where you fly to, and spend time at, the South Pole.
I always enjoy when FE types start talking about Antarctica and the ice wall. I have had the opportunity to visit Antarctica several times and thoroughly enjoyed it each time. I have cruised from Chile to the Antartic Peninsula, but I have also been to the South Pole, climbed on Mt. Erebus and traversed the continent. Your geographical genius was half right there is ice, lots and lots and lots of ice, but no ice wall (unless 'they' hid it for the duration of my visits). I never cease to amazed that FE 'experts' are so keen to make claims that are so easily disproved.
You're forgetting that it's not fair to disprove them by going to the place that they say no one can go to so never bother to prove themselves right by trying to go there.
When you think that the length of the ice wall on the Gleason map is about double the length of the equator, or around 80,000, they would need quite a few manned "ice wall protection stations" to enforce the supposed restrictions. Did you see any of those when you were there? ;-)
It is on the same level as them (flerfs) saying that there is no chair in the next room when they have never gone in the next room, but they refuse to listen to someone who has actually gone in the next room and comes out saying "I found the chair that you say doesn't exist".
Always amazed by the inappropriate background music choices of these people. It's either B-Movie suspense music, wannabe Marvel-trailer type nonsense or the happy ukulele, clapping and whistling stuff from the yt library. Never ever do they use comedic early 20th century dixie as they should.
Flerf: Globe earth is just dumb! It don't even make sense!!! Also Flerf: Airplanes fly on world record strength tornado winds that blow in opposite directions simultaneously when going long distances.
Wait wait wait Let me get this straight The ONLY ways to get to the south pole is to go to the most southernly habitable land and then cross over to the closest parts of Antarctica to said habitable land?! Well that's just crazy! Everybody knows that if the earth was a globe then you would cross over to some other random part of Antarctica which is unnecessarily longer than the shortest route. Duh!
Dude! That's brilliant! I will no longer need to follow roads, sidewalks, train tracks and other unnecessarily complicated routes. I will just go straight at my destination using the shortest route! Across forests, swamps, rivers, highways and other people houses. You truly are a flat out genius.
@@FrikInCasualMode I know. And all I had to do was just ask questions and just think about it. What makes more sense? That they would only cross the treacherous southern ocean at the shortest distance between civilisation and Antarctica because 1) it's one of countless shorelines that is the safest and shortest route in unimpeded ocean, which saves on fuel, supplies, wages, and reduces risk as per the the globe theory. Or 2) that it just so happens that the shortest distance is exactly where these only 2 bulges away from the ice wall (if you ignore all others)/ conspiracy Clearly it's far more likely that it's a freak coincidence/ conspiracy than 'safety' and 'costs' pffff
@@jgreen2015 But there is a second entry point. Travel to Hobart, Tasmania.... and catch one of the scheduled summer time flights to the Australian Antarctic station. COVID has obviously interfered with that flight schedule. But hopefully it will return at some point.
The flat earth map simply does not work, I should know I tried to make it fit for years, eventually conceding the bloomin obvious, so there is some hope out there for the lost. Signed -Ranty, the ex flerf-
There is a difference between tying to make something fit and claiming you have made it fit. We may convince people who genuinely don't know who to believe, but we won't convince the frauds, the wilfully ignorant, the religiots or the conspiritards.
I lasted just under nine minutes before having to choose between pause and coma. Dan: I don't know how you can research this stuff without medical aid. Seriously - you seek out the stupid so we don't gave to. I salute you.
So according to flat earthers you could set off from the west coast of America, travel bullet straight west and get to Antarctica but they’re still talking about getting their as if it’s an island that has a “closest point” to the rest of the world.
They would argue that North is the center of their map and west would fly you around the map in a circle, the same way you would fly around a normal globe. The problem lies in the map is the same as ours, just a top down projection, instead of a side view projection. So south is always towards the outside of the map, and north is the center. Edit: The real problem with their map is how long it would take to fly from one country to another in the southern hemisphere due to how distorted their map projection is in the southern hemisphere.
@@memeier9894 they say east and west are circular, not linear, but you never notice the airplanes traveling west having to constantly bank right to compensate for that curvature. 🤷
Nice how he debunks himself in just one sentence. Saying you can not see the icewall from the parts they travel to. But from their definition on a flatearth you should see until infinity (more or less). So being so close a huge frigging wall should be visible easily from the boat.
really, they can see the stars on the horizon at the outer edge of the area because the stars are stuck in the dome, but yet you cant see the icewall which is closer in.
He also fails to address why everyone who goes there doesn't see the stars whizzing past, but instead see the stars appearing to rotate above Sigma Octantis at the South Celestial Pole in a clockwise direction.
@@chrisantoniou4366 isn't that because of those personal domes, where the stars are projected on a dome how you would see them from a globe earth, but for each person individually? I think I saw something like that on SciManDans channel...
@@midnight8341 I have read that somewhere before, but that of course raises FAR more questions than it answers.😄 The sad thing is that on a semantic level that is absolutely correct... If you consider our retinas are our own "personal (concave) domes" and each has a slightly different perspective of the night sky, then yes, we have our own individual "personal domes" that allow us to see the night sky exactly as it would appear from a spherical planet. The only fly in THAT ointment for the flat Earthers is that we see things as they appear from a spherical planet because our planet is indeed spherical! 😂
Note to Terry: *Antarctica* and *Antarctic Circle* are two completely different things. Also: Antarctica is restricted in exactly the same way that the summit of an active volcano is restricted, and for the same reason. (We have to protect idiots from getting themselves killed.)
It's only "restricted" if you don't have the equipment yourself. Go in your own boat or plane, land on the ice and go wherever you want (not much to see though) There aren't any cops or soldiers sitting out there waiting on some random person to come by. Nobody is going to stop you.
@@yourhandlehere1 yeah, not many park rangers down there to give you a ticket for camping without a permit! Or you could go through the rigmarole to get a permit, or go on a guided tour where they’ve taken care of all the permits for you.
The reason that the 1892 map only shows a few small areas in some detail 'bulging out' from the continent is that at that time the whole of the coastline had not been surveyed and so they did not know what the detail was.
Me: What is at the earth's edge? FE: No one can travel the "ice wall" Me: So, how do you know the specific distance or thickness of the "ice wall" to the edge? FE: 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 [a few moments later...] 🤯
Best of all, it is not a "flat Earth" map.The Gleason map is a projection of a globe Earth onto a flat map. It even states that it is a projection on the map itself, and the process is detailed in his patent application. He patented his projection as a "Longitude and Time Calculator", which is also printed on the map.
I actually went to the sponsor's website - but only to double check people were really selling idiotic t-shirts with "Warning: River" traffic signs on them.
love waking up super early & catching your videos as they’re released. also i hate when they reference the arctic treaty as if it’s damning evidence lol
I'm so confused. I was really listening and eager to hear how all his points were going to come together. Then, he basically says "There you have it. Proof they fake the South Pole." What?? What did I miss?
I think all of these flat earthers need to charter a cruise around the entirety of the "ice wall" First they need to figure out how long that would actually take on their map, then ask the captain to actually follow it. Thier months long trip will be cut short by months
Me: Worked in TV production. Asked by a mutual friend of a cable access show director to help. Director: Wantabe Spielberg. Pre-production meeting complete with storyboards for a 3 camera 1 on 1 interview. Gave me instruction to "truck in" instead of zoom in. Me: 1) turn down volume on headset for the inevitable shouting; 2) move entire camera tripod toward tallent... live.
one of the flerfers did read it and in typical flerfonian style they translated it into flerf-speak. In other words, cherry pick the parts needed to twist around into something that can be easily remembered, works for flerf models, and doesnt make any sense what so ever. For example they read military, protect, no admittance and came up with the military wont let you in because they are protecting a huge secret...
Why has no one taken a picture of the “ice wall” from the edge of ANY OTHER continent?? Don’t they have their P-900’s or their P-1000?? Can’t they get some good pics of this GIANT ICE WALL??? Boy, oh, boy
New flat earther challenge. An expedition to cross the "ice wall". They must do this expedition with only flat earthers, and due to the difficulty of crossing the "ice wall", no rescue options are available in case of emergencies...
@@8Junio76 while a photo of the dome would be a great proof for the flat earthers, it'll never happen because according to flerfers "it's too far away to be seen and no one has been to space"
My favourite 'proof' is that when you Skype people on the opposite side of the world, they don't look upside down. Honestly don't think anything can top that one.
@@naysneedle5707 They turn their cameras over, so they look right side up. The problem is agreeing who should do that first and then there's the issue of people only half way round, their cameras are sideways
I used to arrange the British Antarctic Survey flights down to the Falklands, they then shipped to their survey site. This was painful and needed some face palm protection warning Dan.
If the flat earthers said I believe earth is flat because my Bible tells me so, would be fine to me. It's more honest than making crackpot "proofs" and conspiracy theories.
He seems to have conveniently overlooked the fact that if the earth was really flat you would able to see the "ice wall" hundreds of miles away, stretching out in a huge ark, , due to the lack of curvature.
I came to the comments to make this point,.... and you beat me to it.
You would also be able to see it 24/7 because there is no night on flatopia.
The ice wall is only about 15cm tall, that's why we can't see it.
I once fell off the edge of the flat plain, it was the first time I died (nowadays I'm already counting 4 death incidents), but luckily I fully recovered. Just wanted to share my motivating story...
Lol good point. They could even use their favorite camera to spot it
I live in Adelaide in South Australia. The angular momentum is a killer out here on the edge of the disk. Our teapots just slide off the table unless we bank up one side of the floor.
Also we are close enough to Antarctica that 747 sightseeing flights have left here.
Being in Melbourne I am further south - have a thought for the centripetal forces we undergo!!!!
I was wondering about that and do yall actually play soccer (football) on the sides of mountains to make things work?
You forget that the flat earth doesn't rotate.
@@bowks1o_o669 Hang on, tight.
1890's map doesn't show anything discovered after 1890's. Well, what a shock!
Illuminati confirmed, take that athiests.
@@Puremindgames
Oh no! I can feel Jebus pushing into my heart must resist, hail Satan hail Satan Hail Santa.
@@darthwiizius Santa the dyslexic devil.
I was going to be an airline pilot, but when they told me I'd have to lie about the Earth being a sphere, I politely declined.
Oh yeah sure😏we believe you😂
What I think that happened...
You were yelling that the earth is flat.
They called you crazy.
You said that the sphere is a lie and you left because the fe lie is more important than the job
@@jasmijnariel Wow, it's like you were right there with me!!
LOL
@@jasmijnarielr/whooooshhh
@@jasmijnariel Massive whoosh moment here.
I'd love to hear Terry explain why we can get so close to this mind-bendingly gigantic wall and still not see it, especially on a flat earth.
"The original flat earth map" - Or an "azimuthal equidistant map centered on the North Pole" as normal people would call it.
the Gleeson map even has the word "projection" printed on it. I always ask the flat earthers who claim this is a flat earth map to look up that term with relation to maps.
or "the map of the globe" as Professor Dave would call it 😂
What is really funny is that Al Biruni (circa 1000 AD),did a lot of work creating AE maps using much of the same mathematics that he used to calculate Earths circumference.... so basically, AE projections (like the Gleason's one), prove the globe!!
There are dozens of projections exactly bc there is no perfect way to place surface of a sphere onto 2d and preserve shape, size, and distance, etc. Why someone would then pick 1 of those many projections and then assume it's an accurate representation of earth i have no idea (confirmation bias i suppose). The irony that earth being a globe necessarily creates those very flaws in 2d projections is lost on flerfers.
What if a map was produced with these same standards, but centered on the South Pole, and showing the North Pole is an ice wall? Wouldn't a Flat Earther say that the new map was also accurate? Why is the first one okay, just because it was first? Does the first one show East Germany and West Germany, because those were real places?
So, his map of a flat Earth is proof, yet a map on a globe is some sort of conspiracy and coverup? This is the type of logic that proves the illogical.
. His map isn't really a map either. It has a patent. Maps don't have patents. They have copyright. Although that's an irrelevance as no rational person could possibly believe his nonsense.
I believe the sky is green, and I'm right. No matter what you or the scientists say, you're all wrong ... even when I look up and see the blue sky, it's obviously some kind of global conspiracy led by NASA probably using giant blue light projectors from space. Oh wait!
@@timnicholas5398 His "map" is actually a _Longitude and Time Calculator_ -- it says so right on it!
@@fred_derf . Correct. Hence the patent.
How do you patent a "map." I mean... Maps are invented. What about that map is unique enough (despite its content) to warrant a PATENT?!
My daughter is 8 and and won a certificate last week for her science predictions. They gave one out to a person in each year.
She now has more qualifications than most flat earthers.
Gibbons are more qualified than flat earthers.
I too am raising an 8 year old. Congratulations on her certificate! From experience I can tell you that the urge to brag about your children's achievements will only grow with each accomplishment. By the time they get into law school or finish second in a half marathon there will be no way to contain yourself. Just go with it, I have to release onto the first half dozen people I see and so what if they're complete strangers. It's not about them, I don't want to burst apart at the seams!
congrats to her!! that is freaking awesome!
@@thunderflare59 even my pet earthworm thinks phlat erfers are dumb and laughs at them.
"She now has more qualifications than most flat earthers."
So... she's opened a textbook?
The thing that makes me cringe is that complacent, condescending smile of his: as if he was the only person "in the know", the only one on the glob... on the plane to have a clue. Nothing can shake such a misplaced confidence, which makes that person utterly dangerous.
Flat earther on Lake Michigan “I can see Chicago 90 miles away clearly”
Flat earther literally on Antarctic coastline “I can’t see the giant wall from here”
I went to Antarctica three times aboard a ship called the Orion from Hobart Australia. I went in summer, and yes, the sun never set. It was amazing.
They'd call you a liar because they deny 24 hour sun can happen next to their ice wall. It's funny and frustrating at the same time.
They say you would get arrested for going too.
#movieklump, how did you evaded the armed Penguins?
@@erikgoossens1 You mean the Military that is disguised as Penguins or even better Polar Bears ( ;D ) that is stopping us from getting to the Ice Wall?
@@erikgoossens1
He dressed in a black 3 piece suit and just blended in?
I have no idea how anyone can look at the shapes of Australia and New Zealand on a flat earth map and still believe that the map represents the shape of the earth. Also, I am shocked that there are actually flat earthers in those countries because it should be obvious to them how wrong the flat earth model is.
Having never personally seen 'Straya from above I can neither confirm nor deny that it looks like a 4:3 image stretched to fit a 16:9 screen.
You think these morons have ever been to australia yet alone belive in australia? Haha, some think we are paid actors.. im still waiting for my check :/
Most flat earthers do admit that they don't have a model or a map or anything else to show for their years of 'research'.
@@Puremindgames having spent the last 30 years driving over large swathes of Australia, I can confirm the accuracy of Google Maps.
Put simply: everybody in south hemisphere can see the night sky rotates around a point that is not the same as in the north hemisphere.
I love “proofs” of flat earth. The thing is so obviously garbage from the start that anything that “proves” it is guaranteed to be hilariously wrong.
If a map of 1893 isn't enough to prove that the world is flat, then I don't know what is! lol
I always imagine a sphere so large that it was impossible to tell that it wasn't a flat plane. A sphere of infinite size would be functionally equivalent to a flat plane.
If you had a smooth sphere that curved only the smallest fraction of a micron over a distance larger than the known universe would it be flat or round? Yes, it's round but at the same time it's flatter than anything in the universe.
I know , flerfers try really hard !! They really do !! We will never take them seriously , though, because they have never shown an actual photograph of a flat earth !!!
Hey guys I know it’s off topic, but I’ve been trying to get sci man Dan to realize Kent’s whack an atheist Wednesday is a rip off of his tinfoil Tuesday, and it’s provable on Kent’s own video when he replied to a video sci man Dan did on him on a tinfoil Tuesday. If anyone can help I think instead of Dan talking about how much hovind has whacked him, he should rightfully be taking credit for kent creating whack an atheist Wednesday, because he was triggered that he was on a “tinfoil Tuesday”.
In the video kent replied to he said he needed a similar segment for evolutionists, and came up with whack an atheist Wednesday.
I don’t expect Dan to do a video on it, or something, but when he opens he always talks about how many times he has been whacked, when he should rightfully be taking credit for creating whack an atheist Wednesday.
@@jamesdecost6009 I take it that’s Kent
“Jailbird” Hovind you’re talking about…liar and thief.
I was in the navy for 14 years. I patrolled many places. Friends and acquaintances in the fleet patrolled places I never got to. None of us ever patrolled any ice wall.
"Ohhh the ice wall is off limits" oh really? How is that enforced? "Oooohhhhh it's patrolled!" By who?!?!?
By the SECRET NAVY!!!!1!!!!1!ELeventy!
Robot birds, of course - all built by NASA. They call them "penguins". All the scientists stay there to replace their batteries. Haven't you heard?
The Canadian navy? Was it your Mormon mission?
The one thing everybody seems to agree on is that nobody has ever seen this "Ice Wall". Either it is standing on solid ground (and Antarctica is a continent), or it is floating on the oceans (and therefore incapable of preventing the water cascading off The Edge).
It’s very generous to call flat earth a ‘theory’. It has no model and no predictive or explanatory power.
Yep, flat earth is a hypothesis. One that easily fails testing.
flat earthers are very similar to religious people. Belief in the absence of evidence.
@@allstarwatt7246 Yes belief without evidence is irrational
Indeed our dear SciManDan does them too much of a courtesy to call it a proper theory.
And once again we have a flat earther who, with no sense of irony uses Google Earth as part of his presentation. Is he unaware that Google Earth is a model based on a spherical earth?
-Ball- disk mouse without scroll they can't zoom out...
Love ya Scimandan, I must correct you though. Flat earth is a belief, not a theory, there isn’t even enough scientific method involved for credence as a hypothesis level.
I think theory just roles off the tongue because it used to be considered a theory before Earth being a Globe was confirmed and so most things about Flat Earth in historical books still use the term theory. However I entirely agree that it is just a belief, it would just take getting used to to keep referring to it as such
It’s a theory in the layman’s sense of the word, not a scientific theory.
It’s dumbassery plain and simple.
@SlyTribal - That’s an excellent point about scientific method not always being empirically correct. I agree with you completely.
@Asterix - A belief can be true or false. A hypothesis is a justified belief that is not known to be true; a hypothesis is a belief that is backed up with some supporting evidence of the scientific method. A theory is a substantiated explanation for an occurrence that has come to a conclusion; a judgment or decision reached by scientific method with consistent repeatable observations and experiments.
A pseudoscience is a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method; making claim to be both scientific and factual but are incompatible with the scientific method.
The greatest barrier to truth is believing you already have it, or that truth is unobtainable. Our best route to truth is the scientific method, there is no reason to believe in anything and no reason in believing. We can choose to be reasonable people, or unreasonable people.
What's keeping you from seeing the entire ice wall if the surface of the ocean is flat?
I kinda find the cinematic soundtrack to his "proof" so amusingly juxtiposed with his actual presentation and trying to force emotional cues so hard.
I like it how they don't question or acknowledge how regular maps have evolved over the years and gotten more accurate. But then takes the original flat earth map as being 100% accurate.
Some of them portray it backwards: Since their maps are ancient, they are more accurate and not tainted by propaganda.
This particular map is from 1892. It's no surprise that the entire coast of Antarctica has not been mapped and named.
They are very selective which map they choose to accept, they accept Gleason though his map is intended to illustrate time, while ignoring Captain Cook's map of the Southern Hemisphere from 1778, which shows the position of the South Pole.
It's NOT a "flat Earth map" it's a PROJECTION of the globe. The sizes and shapes of countries are completely wrong.
You are mostly correct, but there are a few that have updated, even worse honestly, maps.
Well the man hit the nail on the head when he said “a LITTLE bit of research”. A little bit of research makes for either a very stupid human or a very dangerous human or both.
except when he says " a little bit of research" he is talking about watching UA-cam videos. This guy doesn't actually know how to research a topic.
His “research” is heavily influenced by his confirmation bias.
"LITTLE bit of research" is Flerfese for
"Me looks at shit, me no unnerstand shit, Shit not real".
@@JubeProductions the flat earther in this video strikes me as someone who does not even know what a scientific journal even is
This clown makes me feel like a f***ing genius. More please?
I have to say that while I know flat earth is complete rubbish, I can't help but be glad it's around as it's wonderful entertainment and keeps me smiling.
Great point ☺️
It allows you to spot people you don't want to engage in conversation with, saves a lot of time really.
The problem is, these people can get high up in places of power. I shudder to think if a president of the U.S. appointed a flat earther as head of education
@@MyAramil or became the President of the USA.........
@@MyAramil I don't know if that would he worse than if the U.S. President were to appoint a young Earth creationist as Head of Education. Both are definitely terrifying prospects.
I am french and I was regularly traveling in California for my job. There, I noticed a frequent road sign with a single word : "Xing". It took me several years to figure out that this was not intended for the important Chinese population of California.
I also remember a very cryptic road sign, I saw while traveling by train in Japan : a child with a hammer hitting his head (or falling toward his head?). Unfortunately, I did not take a picture. That one will probably remain a mystery forever.
I must admit, I want to cry for these flat earthers like Terry. The glee he shows in having "explained" a non-existent problem is heartbreaking.
At last, he found some reason for some glee in his life. Rgr
If the Gleason map was an FE map as the flat-earthers claim, why was it allowed by the nameless "them" to be created in first place? The project would have had to take a considerable amount of time to be measured and calculated, including lots of traveling round the world e.g. to the ice wall. Hmm, something's wrong here!
Enough with the logic!
Yes, excellent point. Whatever the situation may be now, the “ice wall” certainly couldn’t have been patrolled by the combined armed forces of all the nations or drones for centuries. Why are there no written descriptions of the “ice wall” from those who originally mapped it?
@@michaelhall2709 good point. Another point to consider is if ALL these countries have maned crews patrolling the "ice wall" that is a HUGE flotilla of ships, aircraft, and even perhaps ground crew. Do the Flatards think that no country EVER lost a ship plane or anything else during their patrol? And of course not even 1 of the THOUSANDS of crew , EVER spilled the secret even on their death bed? I am a professional magician, there is a saying among magicians ( I have herd it from others as well) "The ONLY way for 2 people to keep a secret is if one of them is dead." It would be literally IMPOSSIBLE for this to be kept 100% a secret for how many hundreds of years. Even if the flifers want to claim that it is all done remotely via electronic means, it would not have been possible for it to be patrolled remotely even just 20 years ago...
@@michaelhall2709 c’mon, aliens patrol the ice wall, the same ones that the Antartica accord protect lol 😂
My cousin wired up a few bases in Antarctica in the (80s I think it was,) and got iced in so he spent an extra 3 or 6 months there waiting for a window for travel iirc. He did lots of walking everywhere, photographed lots and unfortunately no aliens, ice wall or conspiracy stuff. He had free reign from what I recall he told my parents, personally haven’t kept in much contact as he is decade or 2 older than me
Yes, it's difficult to claim the "fact" that the Earth is really flat to be a jealously guarded secret of the Illuminati/freemasons/NASA/knights templar and also claim the Gleason map is real...
It always bugs me when people use that map because there's a painfully simple anti-proof that they never seem to talk about, and ignore when it's brought up, and that is pure distance. If that map was right, circumnavigating "the ice wall" (or even say, the Atlantic Ocean part of it) would take far longer than making that same trip above the equator. Make both of those trips, going the same speed. Then tell me your map is right.
You would also have to correct course in the opposite direction wouldn't you?
🤭🤷👍
There is the Vendee yacht race around Antarctic every few years, ant the distance traveled is no where near that shown on the FE map.
There's also another painfully simple anti-proof in the fact that using this map and the circling of the sun and moon as the flat-Earthers believe it happens, people in different locations would see a different phase of the moon on the same night, when we know that the entire world sees the same phase of the moon on the same night. For example, let's say we have a full moon in London at midnight, which places the moon over the Congo and the sun on the opposite side of the world. At that moment, according to this map, South Africa would see a new moon, Morocco would see a quarter moon with the lit portion on the left side, Iran would see a quarter moon with the lit portion on the right side, and the people in the Congo would be looking straight up at the moon's south pole and seeing a half moon. The fact that this doesn't happen, and the fact that this model of the flat Earth is incapable of depicting the entire world seeing the same phase of the moon on the same night (or, in fact, depicting anyone below the equator seeing a full moon ever), disproves this model of the flat Earth.
@@ToEuropa That's a great point, I'd never thought of that.
I’m just astonished at how many people out right deny science!
Keep up the good work dan, see you Tuesday
It's MORE astonishing that they can't even READ. How long would it take to find the Antarctic Treaty they keep referring to and actually sit and read the bloody thing? It's not hard. Grab a cup of coffee or tea, slushy, smoothy, whatever and just.... READ THE DAMN THING!!! Hahahaha 🤔🤣🤣🤣 😎🇬🇧
Just went to check after reading your comment. Took me less than two minutes to find it and download the original text. It’s almost as if the flerfers are in an echo chamber or something…
@@lidbass Hahaha yeah, they just hear someone else who believes in similar things they do say it, then just repeat it without confirming it. Pitiful 🤦😏
they not deny science, they simply deny using their brain
I'm not. Some people are basically lazy and don't want to think.
Let's also not forget Antarctica's "pole of inaccessibility", the furthest point from any ocean. The Soviets built some sort of (since abandoned) station there, where a bust of Lenin still exists.
You just know their argument is solid when they say, 'panned' out instead of 'zoomed' out.
My favorite part working on a Friday morning here in the Midwest. Thank you for your work Scimandan.
I am honestly amazed at how after so many years of debunking flerfs that their arguments haven't changed beyond slight variation, yet the debunking has evolved
The FLERF Community includes evolution deniers, so to expect their arguments to evolve is, I'd say, wildly optimistic.
Well neither has religion,
And when you argue with them about a new topic or something you know a lot about they have no counter argument because Dubay and the likes haven’t made a video about it so they have no information to counter your argument with.
Hey when you know everything about any topic, you will never learn even one other thing no matter what. Why would you? You already have all the answers right?
@@tompiper9276 an "evolution denier?" as an insult? I am totally against flat-earthers and totally for science so I would like to kindly point out that evolution is a religion. We all know the SCIENTIFIC METHOD requires ANY scientific claims MUST 1. be able to be tested 2. be able to replicate any experiment ( provided the same methods are followed exactly...) Evolution's entire foundation is made on claims that " a single-celled organism spontaneously existed from a "primordial soup" of amino acids " AND purport that "omni-organism" over time slowly became every single living organism on earth...and yet those same "scientists" have NEVER demonstrated ANY single-celled event occuring in a laboratory ( anywhere -or- otherwise ) - Can you imagine boldly claiming that the first COMPUTER somehow spontaneously existed in someone's garage? ( with an operating system pre-installed AND it also starts spawning / auto-assembling computers that can make more computers with the same ability ; and they auto-fight virus' and auto-heal and develop communicattion protocols AND can ALSO become ANY other living thing on earth with enough time ? ) - ALL just by accidental amino-acids and lighting ? That's how ludacris the religion of evolution sounds to actual scientists - they're mad ! You kind sir should not be trying to insult people by associating evolution with intelligence -- evolution and flat-earth are in the same category scientifically speaking - disproven theories - ( genetics directly disproves evolution ) and until you can make REAL science on your evolutionary claims you should be logically obligated to setlle down with your false claims and instead learn to respect everyone's religion -we have been respecting your religion of evolution - good day mate
"The Ice Wall" from a man who's never seen it.
So much for only believing the evidence of your own eyes.
Well, hypocrisy is one of the cornerstones of Flatopia.
They need to take there P900s with them it surely must be the only way to see it if they think a bay sticking out a few miles from the rest of "the wall" somehow stops you from seeing it on a flat earth.
They always say that "They are hiding the truth from us", but they never tell us WHY they would hide this from us.
Its to make you doubt the word of God.
It never ceases to amaze me that people don't understand the projections used to make different maps. You'd think they'd realize something is very different when they look at the shapes of the various continents on the different projections.
"That's how the tourists can never see the ice wall"
... But if the world is flat, and they're going that close *on the ocean*... why can they still not see it?
Reasons.
Another fine face palm moment, I used to be a generator tech with the British Antarctic Survey on Rothera, Adelaide Island. it's always hilarious to see these guys, getting it all wrong with their "proofs" of a flat earth, especially when it is involved with the Ice wall and Antarctica.
That sounds like a very interesting job. But i'll bet you've never seen the ice wall, like this guy has, or at least he thinks he has.
fake Fake FAAAAAKE
Fake News !!!!
shill. antartica is a giant ice wall
@@JubeProductions At least, he KNOWS it´s there.... Rgr
Ice wall keeping the white walkers away? There’s a reason we’re not supposed to go there.
Love how he always smiles when he thinks like 'damn i showed them'. This type of stupidity is so unbelievable.
It's his face laughing at his brain!
I like the ominous music playing while the side by side portrayal of the maps is showing. Really gives it a “mystery vibe” when there really is no mystery. 💯
Small map, and such appreciation by such a small mind. Terry is bound to convince other small minds!
The "flat Earth map" he uses is patented as a projection of the globe Earth described as a "New and improved time chart" and is described as "The extortion of the map from that of a globe consists, mainly of straightening out the meridian lines allowing each to retain their original value from Greenwich, the equator to the two poles."
The patent application is a pdf online; US497917.
I wonder if flat earthers could understand the concept of texture mapping in 3d graphics.
This is golden! Using a patent to disprove their own model 😂 you sir, win this comment section 🏆
FEs citing this map seem to gloss over the word "projection," not realizing how damning that word is.
@@davecarvell - and they ignore it when you point it out to them. The patent application was probably drafted by the Illuminati or NASA.
And it says right there on the map, _"on the projection of J. S. Christopher, Modern College, Blackheath, England"._
But he's put out a video today (18 April 2022) saying _"This is_ not _a projection map."_
My question to FE would be: Why is the "ice wall" shown to have a specific distance to the earth's edge? Someone would have had to determine the distance by traversing the "ice wall" to the edge even though according to FE it is not possible.
Not to forget that an ice wall isn't a magical barrier, we could mine through it, climb over it, etc. It's not a dead end with out modern tech in any way shape or form, just an inconvenience.
Those brave, fearless flat-earthers are putting everything they have in their expedition to scale the ice wall and cross the interminable frozen waste beyond! Oh wait.
@@spiritbx1337 So if global warming would melt the "icewall" we would not drown, we would have a global draught? All the water that conveniently finds its level would run straight over the edge...
Apparently it is also too high to fly over
Tu prawda o Antarktydzie i o Firmamencie nad faktycznie płaską Ziemią ua-cam.com/video/FE7rn5oTwLE/v-deo.html
He said it. Off limits due to the Antarctic Treaty? He needs to do some more of his own research on that one.
The probem with letting flat earthers "do their own research" is that they immediately stop "researching" when something fits their narrative, they know that if they kept going it would debunk their precious pancake.
I would almost give odds that no flat earther even knows how to find the Antarctic Treaty, much less read it. It's altogether too easy to make unfounded claims about it.
@@paulcrumley9756
Agreed. I mean, the thought of a flerf googling the Antarctic Treaty, discovering that it’s not a big document and is really easy to understand is beyond me.
Normally I always listen with an open mind to try to discover how anyone could think this way, but this one is just silly. Even the flat earthers from the 1800's understood that the flat earth map needs to match observed reality at the most basic level.
The word 'proof' amongst the flart earth community is a very loosely used term.
The Antarctic circle, like the Arctic circle delineates, the areas where 24 hours of daylight or night can occur. And of course it corresponds to the angular tilt of the earths axis. Thanks Dan and keep up the good work.
Correct. You also reach it long before you get to the Antarctic ice shelf and continent.
@@clivedavis6859 yes I live at 70 degrees north , the circle is about 5 hours drive south of here. But down there, the midnight sun only lasts a few days. Six weeks here and of course six months a further twenty degrees north at the pole.
@@joseraulcapablanca8564 The exact same thing happens at 70 degrees south. I've asked many a flerfer to explain that, but none can.
Ah, the pizza does rotate, now I’m learning !
We have gotten to the point that we call absurdity reality and reality fiction. Gorgeous job, Dan, I can't wait to see you Tuesday.
so does that mean absurdity is fiction?
@@bunnykiller I guess it does. In some sense, it surely can be. Not in the one I meant though.
@@bunnykiller 42 .... Hmm, no it does not fit here..
Ow, what? ... Ah yes, you asked a question, and for that a realy original question, so I was wondering if that answer "42" would fit as an answer... well, it does not, so I have to keep on searching for the right question....
You do not understand, you say? Ow sorry, read Douglas Adams' "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" serie of books, then you understand.
It's absurdity and it is fiction (science fiction).
I just finished reading At The Mountains of Madness and now I know the truth of why they don't allow people to go all the way down through Antartica.
Why hide it? Shogots would be super useful.
@@simonspacek3670 Touche
Ha!
It's a great story. One of my favourites. :)
@@SysterYster For some reason I like that one most too. It might be beacuse it sounds so scientific, but it is definitely better than Call of C'thulu or Night whisperer.
I work for a merchant company which brought many materials to the antartic for the science stations. If there was some big secrect ice wall up there they would have had to sign some secrecy-act form.....guess what....nada.....number of ships multiplied by number of crew, add office staff.... and no rumour what so ever. And then I don not mention the articles publised by the crew regarding their memorable voyage... but they are all bribed I guess....same like NASA....
Jimmy Buffett will be performing a concert in Antarctica from December 1st through the 14th so this is a perfect opportunity for flat Earthers to listen to some good music and to discover there’s no damn wall.
As an Argentinean, I feel both insulted and amused that they think my country has *that* shape.
As an argentinian myself, I am also amused at the idea that our country has enough pesos to afford keeping the conspiracy for so long.
australias prosperity must be coming from all the NASA/Illuminatti money flooding in ( they keep telling us it is Iron Ore) . respect to all those NZ, Argentinean soldiers that have been guarding the ice wall. There must be a market for an icewall tour where flurfs can bungee-jump over the edge... would make a hectic theme park.
@@bloozee If there was an ice wall you can bet your ass Ed Hillary would have gotten to the top of it somehow. He drove a tractor to the pole.
You're in the southern hemisphere so you don't really exist, you're just millions of actors being paid by a conspiracy with seemingly inexhaustible wealth to pretend to be living normal lives just in case anyone visits the sets in Mexico where all of Latin America is faked.
@@mauricio2456 Well surely that's the only thing the international kabal would subsidise, fake roadmaps and what have you. (?)
Damn, this guy uses my globe-to-ae map morph in his intro!
I can't shout at him as he has me blocked!
Of course he has blocked you. They have to silence the opposition so they can spread their BS unopposed. Gotta lie to flerf.
As for your animation, hit him with a copyright strike.
If he's using your work without permission you should copyright strike the sh!t out of him.
Jos Leys, maybe if you would stop making utter fools out of flat earthers by showing how they are wrong, they might stop banning you from their channels. How many flerfs have banned you, anyway? Let me look... Wow... That is a long list. Good job! 👍
I just checked his channel, and now my brain hurts..
But your comment to him is visible 👍
And now he has disabled comments on that video.
But he has plenty more stupid videos 🤣
So…. “doctored” photos of the spherical earth from space are proof that the earth is flat, AND man-made maps from 1892 are proof? Got it. Photo editing - bad, 130 year-old map - good.
It's more that flat earthers are very archaic. They can't comprehend what a composite image is (which is what nearly all photos of earth are) and they don't understand how cameras work nor do they understand how exposure/contrast works. The dumbest thing I ever hear them say is in regards to ISS footage. They think it's all underwater because you can't see stars and all this dust appears to be floating around.
Exactly! Sounds like the argument of scientific discoveries being made up because they contradict the bible.
Gracefully ignoring the fact that the bible itself has changed countless times by translations and alterations.
@@mizquitl lol it's like the forgot about Martin Luther
Alao, all the other globe maps that outdate the flat Earth map are wrong, oh and every proven calculation for the past 10,000 years were a hoax....
Bible vs Science = Same thing as you suggested. Old man made good, new science bad.
I'm a kiwi and I can tell you Antarctica has Many people from MANY nations...I've lost track of how many there are nowadays😅😂
Based on his accent, he sounds like he’s from the southern United States. As someone who is from the same area, we are not all this dumb. Thank you.
I join you. There are a lot of idiots around us, but some of us still use our brains!
"we are not all this dumb."
This is true. Just the majority of voters.
@@EBDavis111 😂😂
That's a matter of opinion in itself!
Most of you voted for the "Tangerine Turd", 'The Thickest Guy on the Planet'!
@@EBDavis111 In my opinion, if you vote you are not dumb. The ones who don’t vote make the dumb-dumb list.
What I find hilarious about flat earthers is that they would have an easier time convincing me that the earth is flat than they would convincing me that they actually figured it out themselves. Collectively or otherwise.
The level of quality of their researches is always impressive. I especially love the way they came to the conclusion that the Gleeson map is correct, that none of them have tried to fact check the measures or anything that would actually help them in "proving" the flat-Earth and "disproving" reality.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo well, hate to break it to you but the gleason map is supposedly accurate to timezones. It was called "earth from above" in college geography. nevermind that all maps are inaccurate and simply projections. The current maps are definitely not accurate either. neither is the globe technically speaking. They are all only working models at best.
@@cloudcoastgaming I'm aware of that, but strangely they don't seem to. I often said on other videos that I have the feeling that it should be explained a little bit in school, it should be shown that theirs different types of world maps and the differences between them. Maybe it's already that way, I can't really tell, highschool has been over 20 years ago for me and I don't recall ever being taught about the differences between maps, or even their appropriate name, I might just not have been at school that day, hard to tell.
But as I said, it looks like Flat-Earthers aren't aware of what the Gleeson map represent, nor that it's described as being a projection of the globe. I'd really love to see a "proper" attempt for them to make a map, it shouldn't be hard since they'd be going from a flat disk to a flat image, and for us it would be hillarious to see how butchered the map would be compared to reality.
They have a better chance of convincing people that oxygen is not real
@@cloudcoastgaming A globe is accurate. It’s the only truly accurate representation of our planet that there is.
Flat-earthers always talk about how they can only believe what they have seen with their own eyes. Yet they refuse to fly to Antarctica or into space to prove their point, contradicting themself and their believe. Hilarious!
still waiting for a flat earther funded expedition to either locations. of course organised and vetted by themselves.
At one point, Joe Rogan asked Eddie Bravo if he'd go to Antarctica if someone paid for it. And he said he'd send someone in his place.
Obviously so that he could continue to believe whatever.
unless they made the rocket themself, i doubt they gonna believe it even if they went to space, as they already suggest all window on rocket, space station are fish-eye len.
@@bryank5523 you'll be waiting
they learned their lesson in trying to "prove" flat earth postulates... for example the water/canal with the 2 boards with holes with the light... raise your light up, higher " Ohhh thats interesting" and "15 degree an hour drift"... dont test, it screws up the outcome.... So, no flights are allowed....
_"...it just takes a little bit of research especially if you have the flat earth map..."_
Reminds me of the Flat Earther who told me he was convinced after 60 seconds of research. Indeed, reading the Antarctic Treaty would be too much research. Thinking critically about SH distances on the "Flat Earth" (Gleason) map would be way too much research.
I really wanna know what Boss Hogg and the Duke boys are up to......
it's like, they don't even TRY to come up with a convincing argument.
I love how the flat earther's beloved gleason map is a projection and says so right on it. I.e. it represents the spherical earth as a flat surface, which is what all map projections do.
His argument is essentially that the tour operators hide the ice wall by taking you to places where you can't see it. He didn't need a map to make that argument. BTW there are many other commercial tours of Antarctica including ones where you fly to, and spend time at, the South Pole.
If there really was a conspiracy to conceal that the Earth is flat, why would they even let tourists go anywhere near the ice wall?
I always enjoy when FE types start talking about Antarctica and the ice wall. I have had the opportunity to visit Antarctica several times and thoroughly enjoyed it each time. I have cruised from Chile to the Antartic Peninsula, but I have also been to the South Pole, climbed on Mt. Erebus and traversed the continent. Your geographical genius was half right there is ice, lots and lots and lots of ice, but no ice wall (unless 'they' hid it for the duration of my visits). I never cease to amazed that FE 'experts' are so keen to make claims that are so easily disproved.
You're forgetting that it's not fair to disprove them by going to the place that they say no one can go to so never bother to prove themselves right by trying to go there.
When you think that the length of the ice wall on the Gleason map is about double the length of the equator, or around 80,000, they would need quite a few manned "ice wall protection stations" to enforce the supposed restrictions. Did you see any of those when you were there? ;-)
@@AlDunbar Or armed penguins?
It is on the same level as them (flerfs) saying that there is no chair in the next room when they have never gone in the next room, but they refuse to listen to someone who has actually gone in the next room and comes out saying "I found the chair that you say doesn't exist".
What you saw was CGI as they would say or you’re paid
Always amazed by the inappropriate background music choices of these people. It's either B-Movie suspense music, wannabe Marvel-trailer type nonsense or the happy ukulele, clapping and whistling stuff from the yt library. Never ever do they use comedic early 20th century dixie as they should.
Flerf: Globe earth is just dumb! It don't even make sense!!!
Also Flerf: Airplanes fly on world record strength tornado winds that blow in opposite directions simultaneously when going long distances.
Wait wait wait
Let me get this straight
The ONLY ways to get to the south pole is to go to the most southernly habitable land and then cross over to the closest parts of Antarctica to said habitable land?!
Well that's just crazy! Everybody knows that if the earth was a globe then you would cross over to some other random part of Antarctica which is unnecessarily longer than the shortest route.
Duh!
Dude! That's brilliant! I will no longer need to follow roads, sidewalks, train tracks and other unnecessarily complicated routes. I will just go straight at my destination using the shortest route! Across forests, swamps, rivers, highways and other people houses.
You truly are a flat out genius.
@@FrikInCasualMode I know. And all I had to do was just ask questions and just think about it.
What makes more sense?
That they would only cross the treacherous southern ocean at the shortest distance between civilisation and Antarctica because
1) it's one of countless shorelines that is the safest and shortest route in unimpeded ocean, which saves on fuel, supplies, wages, and reduces risk as per the the globe theory.
Or
2) that it just so happens that the shortest distance is exactly where these only 2 bulges away from the ice wall (if you ignore all others)/ conspiracy
Clearly it's far more likely that it's a freak coincidence/ conspiracy than 'safety' and 'costs' pffff
@@jgreen2015 But there is a second entry point.
Travel to Hobart, Tasmania.... and catch one of the scheduled summer time flights to the Australian Antarctic station. COVID has obviously interfered with that flight schedule. But hopefully it will return at some point.
@@John.0z therefore freemasons
"Now pay close attention to that TALE of Antartica." Yes Terry. A very tall tale indeed.
The flat earth map simply does not work, I should know I tried to make it fit for years, eventually conceding the bloomin obvious, so there is some hope out there for the lost. Signed -Ranty, the ex flerf-
Indeed. to believe the AE map is correct, you must believe that all mapped distances of earth are massively wrong. i.e., another conspiracy.
As CC says, you are now the actual globe Earth hero.
There is a difference between tying to make something fit and claiming you have made it fit. We may convince people who genuinely don't know who to believe, but we won't convince the frauds, the wilfully ignorant, the religiots or the conspiritards.
Antarctic treaty is to ban all military operations there. When HMS Endurance went there, its armament had to be covered over.
I lasted just under nine minutes before having to choose between pause and coma. Dan: I don't know how you can research this stuff without medical aid. Seriously - you seek out the stupid so we don't gave to. I salute you.
So according to flat earthers you could set off from the west coast of America, travel bullet straight west and get to Antarctica but they’re still talking about getting their as if it’s an island that has a “closest point” to the rest of the world.
They would argue that North is the center of their map and west would fly you around the map in a circle, the same way you would fly around a normal globe. The problem lies in the map is the same as ours, just a top down projection, instead of a side view projection. So south is always towards the outside of the map, and north is the center.
Edit: The real problem with their map is how long it would take to fly from one country to another in the southern hemisphere due to how distorted their map projection is in the southern hemisphere.
@@memeier9894 they say east and west are circular, not linear, but you never notice the airplanes traveling west having to constantly bank right to compensate for that curvature. 🤷
Well said. The illogic in the flerf mind is immesurable.
@@RobertEmery and they are always banging on about how planes don't constantly dip the nose down, too.
Nice how he debunks himself in just one sentence.
Saying you can not see the icewall from the parts they travel to.
But from their definition on a flatearth you should see until infinity (more or less).
So being so close a huge frigging wall should be visible easily from the boat.
really, they can see the stars on the horizon at the outer edge of the area because the stars are stuck in the dome, but yet you cant see the icewall which is closer in.
He also fails to address why everyone who goes there doesn't see the stars whizzing past, but instead see the stars appearing to rotate above Sigma Octantis at the South Celestial Pole in a clockwise direction.
@@chrisantoniou4366 isn't that because of those personal domes, where the stars are projected on a dome how you would see them from a globe earth, but for each person individually? I think I saw something like that on SciManDans channel...
@@midnight8341 I have read that somewhere before, but that of course raises FAR more questions than it answers.😄 The sad thing is that on a semantic level that is absolutely correct...
If you consider our retinas are our own "personal (concave) domes" and each has a slightly different perspective of the night sky, then yes, we have our own individual "personal domes" that allow us to see the night sky exactly as it would appear from a spherical planet. The only fly in THAT ointment for the flat Earthers is that we see things as they appear from a spherical planet because our planet is indeed spherical! 😂
What I don't understand is why the tours would go to the closest points to originating points. Hehe.
Note to Terry: *Antarctica* and *Antarctic Circle* are two completely different things.
Also: Antarctica is restricted in exactly the same way that the summit of an active volcano is restricted, and for the same reason. (We have to protect idiots from getting themselves killed.)
Do we have to protect idiot's from getting themselves killed? 🤔 No, I mean it. Really, do we?!
It's only "restricted" if you don't have the equipment yourself. Go in your own boat or plane, land on the ice and go wherever you want (not much to see though) There aren't any cops or soldiers sitting out there waiting on some random person to come by. Nobody is going to stop you.
@@yourhandlehere1 yeah, not many park rangers down there to give you a ticket for camping without a permit! Or you could go through the rigmarole to get a permit, or go on a guided tour where they’ve taken care of all the permits for you.
no its obviously restricted because there is an ice wall tf
@@oerlikon20mm29 lmao no it’s not
The reason that the 1892 map only shows a few small areas in some detail 'bulging out' from the continent is that at that time the whole of the coastline had not been surveyed and so they did not know what the detail was.
i can barely contain my giggles when they say "research"
They like to try and debunk the globe but they never even try to question whether or not the flat earth map is really accurate
Me: What is at the earth's edge?
FE: No one can travel the "ice wall"
Me: So, how do you know the specific distance or thickness of the "ice wall" to the edge?
FE: 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 [a few moments later...] 🤯
@@nomenclature9373 The typical FE response is to change the subject or resort to nonsensical whataboutism.
@@nomenclature9373 If their brains were Dynamite they wouldn't have enought to blow their noses!
@@mjjoe76 I find when all else fails, they quote scripture.
With how big and how high the ice wall is said to be I don't think you can hide something like that
This old argument again? I've flown over Antarctica.
That's really cool. What was it like?
@@rmansfield6 it was an amazing experience, Antarctica was beautiful from the air.
I've never been in an airplane. What flightpath took you over? It seems so out of the way!
Thank god you didn’t hit the wall 😂😂😂😂
It must take a lot of resources to patrol the approximate 50,000 miles of Antarctic sea wall.
OH MY GOD.!!! This video is terrifying.!
He has CHILDREN.!!!!
You can hear them in the background....
I love the way he uses a map from 1892 when the only known part of Antarctica was the edge of the sea ice and then uses that to prove the flat earth.
Well that’s a little bit of research for ya
Whilst simultaneously referring to Google Maps for clarification🤣
If they used an even older map, they could claim that North and South America don't exist.
They didn't even get to the South Pole until 1911. And yes do they every try and explain that?
@@ToEuropa Or that there are Dragons in the ocean ;)
A Flat Earther with a MAP! Not a grifter then. All the Grifters avoid maps, because maps can be easily tested.
Just ask them for a scale that has to be on every map.
So, big deal, every time I travel “around” the earth I always use an 1800’s map to be assured all is well.
Best of all, it is not a "flat Earth" map.The Gleason map is a projection of a globe Earth onto a flat map. It even states that it is a projection on the map itself, and the process is detailed in his patent application. He patented his projection as a "Longitude and Time Calculator", which is also printed on the map.
Always love the "spooky" music when BS is being revealed!
His old skool map is about as old as his technique to sharpen his pencil.
I actually went to the sponsor's website - but only to double check people were really selling idiotic t-shirts with "Warning: River" traffic signs on them.
love waking up super early & catching your videos as they’re released. also i hate when they reference the arctic treaty as if it’s damning evidence lol
I thought they just put a big blanket over the ice wall and just say to the tourist don't look over there.
That ever elusive ice wall 😆
Don't Look Up
😆
I'm so confused. I was really listening and eager to hear how all his points were going to come together. Then, he basically says "There you have it. Proof they fake the South Pole." What?? What did I miss?
I think all of these flat earthers need to charter a cruise around the entirety of the "ice wall" First they need to figure out how long that would actually take on their map, then ask the captain to actually follow it. Thier months long trip will be cut short by months
You can fly from Cape Town, South Africa to Wolf's Fang Antarctica and then on to the south pole. Done by White Desert tours.
Even if the the ice wall has those outcrops you would still be able to see the giant wall right?
Considering how tall it would have to be, yes, you'd think so
The answer is flerspective. The answer to anything related to being able to see something or not being able to see it.
You dont "PAN" in and out you zoom in and out "PAN" is when you go from left to right or right to left.
Me: Worked in TV production. Asked by a mutual friend of a cable access show director to help.
Director: Wantabe Spielberg. Pre-production meeting complete with storyboards for a 3 camera 1 on 1 interview. Gave me instruction to "truck in" instead of zoom in. Me: 1) turn down volume on headset for the inevitable shouting; 2) move entire camera tripod toward tallent... live.
@@nomenclature9373"Just following orders, sir" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@sheltongolden4394 Yup.
I wish one flat earther would actually read the Antarctic Treaty.
one of the flerfers did read it and in typical flerfonian style they translated it into flerf-speak. In other words, cherry pick the parts needed to twist around into something that can be easily remembered, works for flerf models, and doesnt make any sense what so ever. For example they read military, protect, no admittance and came up with the military wont let you in because they are protecting a huge secret...
Why has no one taken a picture of the “ice wall” from the edge of ANY OTHER continent?? Don’t they have their P-900’s or their P-1000?? Can’t they get some good pics of this GIANT ICE WALL???
Boy, oh, boy
no hope for flat earthers
New flat earther challenge. An expedition to cross the "ice wall". They must do this expedition with only flat earthers, and due to the difficulty of crossing the "ice wall", no rescue options are available in case of emergencies...
I would prefer a picture of the ‘dome’.
@@8Junio76 while a photo of the dome would be a great proof for the flat earthers, it'll never happen because according to flerfers "it's too far away to be seen and no one has been to space"
Bloody hell, there are plenty of very useless flat earth "proofs" so he has some way to go to beat the competition.
My favourite 'proof' is that when you Skype people on the opposite side of the world, they don't look upside down. Honestly don't think anything can top that one.
@@naysneedle5707 They turn their cameras over, so they look right side up. The problem is agreeing who should do that first and then there's the issue of people only half way round, their cameras are sideways
@@stevelloyd5785 😂😂😂
I used to arrange the British Antarctic Survey flights down to the Falklands, they then shipped to their survey site. This was painful and needed some face palm protection warning Dan.
I know what you mean, as former genny mech with BAS, it is always hilarious to see these guys, trying to proof a flat earth.
@@The_Bored_Traveller Voyager or Tristar?
If the flat earthers said I believe earth is flat because my Bible tells me so, would be fine to me. It's more honest than making crackpot "proofs" and conspiracy theories.
Well, I was convinced at 2:07 when the speaker manages to mis-quote the text being shown!