That definitely helps. I like to at least do one in the solo cup to see what the rest might look like. Use that as the gauge. Once they start to yellow to offen I know I've gone a bit to long waiting to transplant it seems also
the trick is to wait until the bud snaps off the stem. not the stem snapping. big difference. Once the buds begin to snap off the stems I put the entire plant back into a plastic bin with a top on for 1 more day to equal out the moisture all throughout the buds. Utilize the left over moisture in those stems to equalize things. then do the final trim. Putting the plant back into a bin for that extra day really preserves the terps properly and then no need to ever burp your jars with this method either. lock up the flowers and dont open the jars until ready to smoke. It took me over 20 years to figure this out last month on my last grow. that last step by putting it in the bin BEFORE trim made a HUGE difference in the final flavor and quality.
1 week in closet at like 50 humidity then right into bag or jar. House is like 78 degrees. Sometimes 2 weeks🤷 idk works for me. No hay smell at all. I jus need to get down when to pull the plant. Tried early tried late, tried 2 late. I can never get it perfect.
One timing thing I’ve noticed is a lot of my weed used to smell like hay and everything I could find said that’s because it dried too fast but then I heard from Jeremy on the build a soil channel that it can also be because you jarred it too early while it was still wet and that seemed to be the bigger culprit in my case. I was always afraid of overdrying because in my first grow I waited for a snap in the biggest branches and by the time that happened the humidity in jars was like 45%. So I overcorrected and I’d put it in jars a day or so early and control the humidity by burping, and while that would control the moisture it’s like it had locked in that hay smell. Now I wait until it feels just a tad bit overdried before jarring and the moisture from the stem or middle of the bud will come back out and bring the overall moisture up once it’s in jars and I don’t get that hay smell anymore.
I'm an old dude, been growing for years. I have to admit that the harvest, dry, and cure is the tricky part for me still. A slow dry at lower temps is key though. Also, I gotta agree with Chris. If my stems are dry enough to snap, I have already passed the optimal time to cure. One last thing; you mentioned keeping a notebook (40:30) . My memory is not what it used to be, so I have been keeping a "garden journal". It really helps me stay on top of my feeding schedule, etc. And, I can review what was happening on previous runs, to refine my process. Especially helpful when "breeding "
Absolutely keep a journal of everything you do, even if it’s minimal. I constantly look back to my notes even from previous gardens. Great advice and I don’t think anyone can remember everything they do on different dates so don’t feel bad. 😂
When I was young and we came across weed that was dry, we'd throw a orange or tangerine peel in the jar for a little while. Adds moisture and some citrus flavor. Love the show and you guys are great. Sorry if this was mentioned below. Too lazy to scroll through the comments. Haha. Happy Mothers Day to all Mama's out there.
Really great episode guys. Hit on a lot of mistakes I made with my first grow. Flushing too soon and over drying, both by following general consensus guidelines. These round table talks are very helpful for us newbies trying to get dialed in.
Just finished my dry and cure. Went for 60° 60% r/h for 16 days. I used a large room and while I did stay on top of refilling the humidifier Its a point worth touching on that the smaller the room the easier to control the environment conditions. My humidifier was misting as close to without touching the plants as possible to achieve and average 55% r/h The overall plant size also played a big roll in determining length of dry time too. I did my first scrog with 2 large plants, large for my 3x3 anyway aprox 3.5 feet tall with a full 2 foot plus canopy on each. Strains were Cafe racer and Critical mass. They were probably done drying by day 10. I went a bit dry. Worked out to 36% in the jar. Small hygrometers definitely a must, helped immensely to know if I needed to burp, dry again or just keep it sealed and let those gases work there magic. I also grew a small Bubba cush under two feet, Minimal veg. Mainly one huge cola. It dried in less than a week same conditions. First smoke tests pre cure were not great but after even one week in the jar that green flavor and slight harshness turned smooth and out came some much more desirable flavors. Critical mass turpenes have changed completely and taken on a sweet cheese smell. I know.. not my favorite but theres some dank coming out and a pretty good flavor that has me patting myself on the back for the accomplishment of a successful harvest after a few PM infestations in a row this was a needed win.
Used to do the stem snap method also, which took 2 weeks, but once put in jars rh was already down to 58%. Put some 62% rh packets in but only brought it up to 60%. Now I do around 10 Days.
Like Al Barrette, i also use a double cup and the inner cup is clear so that i can see the growing roots. I put holes in the clear cup and add water to the red solo cup. it drinks from the bottom and encourages the roots to seek water. works great
Maybe make a video about the use of tent spacing. Like A 2x4 fits 2 plants perfectly. How do you use a 3x3? Is that 1 giant plant? Etc. explain good uses of each tent style.
Using citrus peels to rehydrate can get dry buds back to the proper humidity. Only use in two hour or less increments or you bud will smell soy sauce. But if done right I went from 38% RH to 62% just using citrus peels for about week now my bud hold humidity on its own no bovedas needed, smokes great and has a citrus terp profile. Happy growing!
Regarding the old weed not coming back to life I disagree as of recently .. I had a big harvest last year , and I totally forgot about buds that I didn’t even trim , left in a closed trashbag , totally completely dry like powder almost .. I trimmed them and put them in a har with x3 62% bovidas , 1 hour later the bud is fire and most of the terpenes are there !! Incredible .. sometimes when you harvest a lot and search trough your old trimmings you find a bag with some gold in it :) Great video guys !!
Yo i have to recommend getting a wood moisture meter when youre drying and curing. The hygrometers are good but not totally accurate. Close though. But get a wood moisture meter. Theyre like $20-30. Take the guess work out!
I need to also research on what the optimum 💧percentages are for all parts of grow/dry/trim/store buds! Dial in the dry/cure is 🔑! Also, VPD is better measured by Bud surface temp and not leaf surface temp 😉
@@growshack9067 while there is a standard temp/humidity that is ideal for drying/curing, i personally have found that depending on where you live and time of year, it may require some tweaking. Drying in the middle of winter when the average household humidity in my region is like %30 rh is gonna be different that drying in mid summer. But ofcoarse, region dependant. Good luck mate and happy growing!
Find drying for full flavour is best done in a cardboard box within a cupboard with a bodeva pack, if the weather is extreme! The time it takes depends on the cultivar...indica dominant usually takes 5 -7 days and it's personal preference, I like the flower to retain about 10% moisture before jarring up!
Those hygrometers are a MUST. Best way to put it is that you cannot detect moisture. You can barely detect with nose, but ur nose certainly cannot detect the difference btw 50% and 80%. There is just no way. I just harvested my first and it came out perfect. I used a different approach >>> Purchased a large sealing tote and cut square holes in the side(4"x6" cutout on all 4 sides) + slapped A/C vent filter on those holes. Then took a noctua computer fan and attached it to one of the filters. The bud sat on racks in the tote. Hygrometer on the racks. I put the fresh bud in the tote and turned on the fan. As the humidity changed, I changed fan speed. U can also cover holes if evap rate is too much. It's a simple setup. Lotta control. Plus the filter helps keep out mold spores. This device looks like a mushroom monotub with way bigger holes. Being able to control evaporation rate is really cool.
Timing of watering is something early growers definitely have trouble with and don't understand when and how much water to give. Depends on pot size, stage of growth, medium, cultivar, ect. But should have been included in timing somehow.
When Iam going away. What I do is lower my lights to the bare minimum. Than water your plants the day you are gonna leave heavy. And than when u get back in a week. You will still be a Lil wet. Another trick I do is cover the top layer of soil with either cardboard or aluminumfoil. I did this mid flower 🌼. And was truly successful.
I found keaving the buds to dry on the plant has been the best for me. Dont cut your plant down leave in pot and let buds dry on plant for 20-30 days. Super dank smell and smooth smoke
Some great information! I'm looking for about 56-58 on the humidity and I have added in a stem with moisture still in it into the jars with buds that maybe dried a little to much. Did this as I was jarring the buds up at first. Thanks for sharing this information!
Amazing conversation! Another excellent upload much appreciated! I have also used the trick on putting a wet flower in a jar of dry buds to get some moisture back. I first heard of this tip from The Garden Sage. I felt it added some flavor too. Recently had some blue dream cured for 6 months, the moisture level was perfect due to bovda pack. I do feel overall I prefer a fresher flower and if dried properly one month cure in a jar is perfect. (In my mind) Cheers y’all !
I always freeze. A branch or too when I cut my plant that way if I ever over dry ill just throw some of that fresh bud in the freezer and it will bring it back for sure maybe not 100% but definitely worth it...thaw first
If commercial grower's dry to 20 % within 48hrs what timing should be used to start the drying process for a full flavor and terp production compared to bag appeal
I’ve found that when it’s dry like you like it…(or alittle before….) it’s ready to jar, regardless of the time spent on dry….use a hydrometer and adjust from there…even if you need to dump it back out, because it was wetter than you thought. Now that I’ve been doing it this way, my smell and flavor have been on fire🔥…in the winter in my house that means 4-6 days with alittle air flow👍🏽
To raise the heat a bump, I use an incandescent 200w bulb in a clip light, with a dimmer, on timer with grow llight. Place in top of tent, aimed down. Dial in is super easy.😎😎😎😎
As the branch first appears I put a small ring around the shade leaf beneath this trains the branch out from the stem. By the time the branch is stronger than the shade leaf stem there is enough of a outward push from the stem to help with air flow, bud development and such. Don’t twist the ring closed, had to learn that one the slow way.
question for chris.... are you going to change any techniques on your grow after what youve learned so far from mr. bigsbee ? that flushing has no benefits and about how some stress could create more trichomes, so maybe trying some small stress during flower???
I have never used a humidity dome or a heating pad and have never had issues. I grow mostly in the winter and the room averages 68-72 Fahrenheit and around 35% humidity. I have a humidifier I only use to dry the herb, for a slower dry.
I've found hanging until the stem slightly snaps and then putting into a brown paper bag, for a day or two before I do the jar burping part of curing works well for me. Still learning and refining . Cheers lads
What to see how your roots are doing from seed or clones into a Dixie cup Use two cups one clear one colored cup Place your plants in clear cup with your medium drop them in a colored cup then when you want to see what’s happening just lift and look make sure both have drain holes And what do you say about trimming root by cutting off long strands I’ve done this and have not seen any negative effects
Start in solo cups, transplant when u have 2 water back to back days, then cut entire 1 inch of bottom of root ball. Another good tip, trim bottom of solo cup, leavin a tiny strand of plastice ever 1 inch, just enought to keep bottom attached to cup. Put that cup into another untrimmed cup, so it can hold water. Then cut the roots as they grow out of the bottoms. Transplant once cup drys back to back days.
I stop on autos about 3 weeks into visible flower. I have had tops shoot up, but always leave them.. most time I get a fairly proper canopy, and without scrog. Just lst
✌❤from Arizona. Great video! I got a perpetual garden, trying to feed two old stoners. Got 3 tents 4 plants per tent. I tell you its been challenge. Nothing really works as planned. I have all the problems you talk about. Because of waiting for trichomes new growth( germinate new seeds)is delayed.
I turn my kitchen into my clone to early veg area to keep my prupetual grow going. Once your eight week strain takes 9.5 weeks flowering things get interesting. Welcome to the jungle!
Actually the plant runs best at 80 to 85° leaf temperature and proper air circulation will prevent mold even with humidity up to 80% usually lower temperatures and higher humidity is what creates a mold problem.
@@danielmoriarty751 Close. But not really true. With higher temps you allow more water vapor to remain in the air, depending on the temp and FAE, you will get mold. You can circulate all the 80% RH air you want... Good luck my friend.
@@virtuatoons i’ve been doing this over 25 years. You can get powder mildew with humidity as low as 40% and temperatures in the 70s Air circulation is key. You might wanna look into VDP growing. Bottom line marijuana grows best with a leaf temperature of between 80 to 85°
So someone showed me how to put orange peels or lettuce leaves in the lbs tht were super crunchy turnin into dust and u put those peels in there and every 3 hrs tke the bag out of the fridge and move it all around. By the time u do tht for one day it will b moistened again. If u over do the peels or the lettuce it will jst wet it but not how U want. What it does is it takes the water out of the peels and it goes into the buds.
Too fast drying/curing more likely is the culprit. Me personally, I always feed only water last two weeks, occasionally flush, but more for easier trimming, because they eat themselves out that way. Tried both flushing and feeding all the way through, not so much of a difference tbh - but like Chris said in that one video - that's precisely the thing, if there's no real difference, you're only wasting nutrients in the end, better to flush
@@loopmantra8314 Thanks Loop, sounds like a good explanation. I didn't ask if he followed good drying/ curing protocol when I tried the product and found it lacking good taste and proper white ash. I assumed it was because it was lack of bringing down the salts in the end. The problem was only with one growmie that produced this problem more than once. Like you, and many others, I do water only for the last two weeks and have never seen this problem, and he bombs them till the end. Now I must find out how he dried them, I gotta know
If dealing with photo's I recommend transplanting at the 2 week mark give or take a day or so. Of course if the plant looks healthy that helps if not then I'd have to cull a stunted one and start again for those prominent root zones Also if a seedling leaf's start to touch the soil use a plastic tie to wrap them leaf's up in a pony tail to avoid any touching soil as that will cause all types of disease to occur
I have a question. I’ve never done any last and I’m wondering; when you tie something down, do you ever let it back up? Thanks you guys for this show. I got an email this morning from AC Infinity telling me my humidifier would be shipped in May. Pigeons I wrote back and thanked them for being a sponsor.
Great freakin show guys. One of the best yet. I recently was telling a growmie how one of my biggest things is "sequencing" my tasks. Like not being able to flower because u haven't cloned or lack of supplies which usually leads to another task having to be put off or done sooner than expected. I always plan everything out now and always keep a journal.
I like to use one screen "scrog" 2 times .... once to train earlier in veg. then I let it grow. then once I flip to flower I take it off and redo it . amazing results . 2 major l.s.t. sessions for the most part . and defoliating to expose all the nugs and cut all the rubbish on the underside .
Did you heard about rehydration? When you want to keep weed a long time , you must dry at 7-9% water. when you want to use it again, put in jar a piece of apple or something else wet, wait half hour. of course do that if you must keep it during year, to next september
The first grow I ever did I grew on the roof of the porch during summer…. I couldn’t even see it properly I’d just water everyday with a hose from the ground. I never added nutes not once. After a while it was huge so I got up there with pliers and literally broke it at the base and bent it in half and tied the broken end down. I kept up watering from the ground. Kept this up for about 4 months there about. Eventually I got up on the roof to get it down and ended up with nearly 3lbs of weed. Not bad for my first grow no fertiliser No anything.
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This seems to be where I am having my biggest trouble. Growing is easy. I grew up on a small 4.5 acre farm. I get to harvest and it's like falling down a steep hill. Follow all recommend practices and it doesn't slap like I'm thinking it should. Could be the genetics, but prior to harvest, everything is as it should be.
I got 2 wy-kiki in flower now. One stretch 3x but one stretch like 0.25x got them out the same pack. The other 2 phenos I haven't flipped yet are really slow growing and short compared to the first 1
I prefer to transplant before the roots have hold of the medium. This way I can gently allow the roots regain a more natural growth in its larger pot. When doing HST its nice to have that space for root growth.
Hey love to here some different way train and when love hear this i am in mid flower i am still doing some basic bending and you will be suprized how much training you can do that will stress out the plant that can actually make the plant produce different tricomes due to the high and extreme stress abd doing it at the right time can make your canopy explode up full buds
Dry lotus/cure all day now!!! Put buds in brown paper bags without stacking it. Roll up bag tightly and place in your refrigerator. Leave there for 10 days without even moving. Perfect dry ready for jars.
2 weeks is good to transplant from seedlings to transplant again at least 1 month in veg to transplant again into flower. I do solo for seedling, 1 gal for veg and 3 gal for flower
That time you switch from drying to curing is purely personal preference and you can play around with a bunch of different techniques but the real question is if you grew some fire pack or not. You can mess up the dry/cure but you have to make mistakes to learn. Washing buds can help your mess ups or bird shit covered nugs. Good luck. 👍
I transplant photoperiods, but i dont like to transplant autos. I prefer to plant right into the 5 gallon pot. I just water in a lil circle around the plant until it starts to fill out the pot.
I use a clear solo cup to put my earth in then i put it in a red solo cup, that way you can take a look at your root system before transplanting.
That's a great idea!
That definitely helps. I like to at least do one in the solo cup to see what the rest might look like. Use that as the gauge.
Once they start to yellow to offen I know I've gone a bit to long waiting to transplant it seems also
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Clear cups will get mold in them from the light penetrate, red attracts bugs
@@max420thc yup green solos for the win
the trick is to wait until the bud snaps off the stem. not the stem snapping. big difference.
Once the buds begin to snap off the stems I put the entire plant back into a plastic bin with a top on for 1 more day to equal out the moisture all throughout the buds. Utilize the left over moisture in those stems to equalize things. then do the final trim.
Putting the plant back into a bin for that extra day really preserves the terps properly and then no need to ever burp your jars with this method either. lock up the flowers and dont open the jars until ready to smoke.
It took me over 20 years to figure this out last month on my last grow. that last step by putting it in the bin BEFORE trim made a HUGE difference in the final flavor and quality.
1 week in closet at like 50 humidity then right into bag or jar. House is like 78 degrees. Sometimes 2 weeks🤷 idk works for me. No hay smell at all. I jus need to get down when to pull the plant. Tried early tried late, tried 2 late. I can never get it perfect.
One timing thing I’ve noticed is a lot of my weed used to smell like hay and everything I could find said that’s because it dried too fast but then I heard from Jeremy on the build a soil channel that it can also be because you jarred it too early while it was still wet and that seemed to be the bigger culprit in my case.
I was always afraid of overdrying because in my first grow I waited for a snap in the biggest branches and by the time that happened the humidity in jars was like 45%. So I overcorrected and I’d put it in jars a day or so early and control the humidity by burping, and while that would control the moisture it’s like it had locked in that hay smell. Now I wait until it feels just a tad bit overdried before jarring and the moisture from the stem or middle of the bud will come back out and bring the overall moisture up once it’s in jars and I don’t get that hay smell anymore.
Terpbags help also. Kept stuff good for almost a year.
I'm an old dude, been growing for years. I have to admit that the harvest, dry, and cure is the tricky part for me still.
A slow dry at lower temps is key though.
Also, I gotta agree with Chris. If my stems are dry enough to snap, I have already passed the optimal time to cure.
One last thing; you mentioned keeping a notebook (40:30) . My memory is not what it used to be, so I have been keeping a "garden journal". It really helps me stay on top of my feeding schedule, etc. And, I can review what was happening on previous runs, to refine my process. Especially helpful when "breeding "
Now that I'm in a "Legal State", I might start doing this. I was always afraid it was just evidence before. I used an anonymous journal instead.
I'm a old head too, But young in this capacity. These guys are killing it.
Absolutely keep a journal of everything you do, even if it’s minimal. I constantly look back to my notes even from previous gardens. Great advice and I don’t think anyone can remember everything they do on different dates so don’t feel bad. 😂
Robs getting ripped!
I get fire drying low 70's with mid 50% humidity. The 60-60 is unattainable in some regions.
It depends for me im in nevada dry as fuck but during winter i can manage 60-60. During summer i can only get to low 70s- 50
Low 70s-60 actually during summer i use tents and humidifiers
Exactly right. Think about the equator areas when drying and curing.
Not sure how they can do it outside let alone indoors in a controlled environment
Same
When I was young and we came across weed that was dry, we'd throw a orange or tangerine peel in the jar for a little while. Adds moisture and some citrus flavor.
Love the show and you guys are great.
Sorry if this was mentioned below. Too lazy to scroll through the comments. Haha.
Happy Mothers Day to all Mama's out there.
Totally did the same. Sometimes used lettuce 😂🤷 All i know it's that it worked make brick weed look and taste better than dog food
Almost 8k views in one day and only 1/8 of the views hit the like button. Wtf guys n gals show some love
I love pigeon’s “after the ole how do you do” quote in reference to branch softening.
Really great episode guys. Hit on a lot of mistakes I made with my first grow. Flushing too soon and over drying, both by following general consensus guidelines. These round table talks are very helpful for us newbies trying to get dialed in.
Just finished my dry and cure.
Went for 60° 60% r/h for 16 days.
I used a large room and while I did stay on top of refilling the humidifier Its a point worth touching on that the smaller the room the easier to control the environment conditions.
My humidifier was misting as close to without touching the plants as possible to achieve and average 55% r/h
The overall plant size also played a big roll in determining length of dry time too.
I did my first scrog with 2 large plants, large for my 3x3 anyway aprox 3.5 feet tall with a full 2 foot plus canopy on each. Strains were Cafe racer and Critical mass. They were probably done drying by day 10. I went a bit dry. Worked out to 36% in the jar. Small hygrometers definitely a must, helped immensely to know if I needed to burp, dry again or just keep it sealed and let those gases work there magic.
I also grew a small Bubba cush under two feet, Minimal veg. Mainly one huge cola. It dried in less than a week same conditions.
First smoke tests pre cure were not great but after even one week in the jar that green flavor and slight harshness turned smooth and out came some much more desirable flavors.
Critical mass turpenes have changed completely and taken on a sweet cheese smell.
I know.. not my favorite but theres some dank coming out and a pretty good flavor that has me patting myself on the back for the accomplishment of a successful harvest after a few PM infestations in a row this was a needed win.
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Used to do the stem snap method also, which took 2 weeks, but once put in jars rh was already down to 58%. Put some 62% rh packets in but only brought it up to 60%. Now I do around 10 Days.
I bet those packets steal all your terps.
Like Al Barrette, i also use a double cup and the inner cup is clear so that i can see the growing roots. I put holes in the clear cup and add water to the red solo cup. it drinks from the bottom and encourages the roots to seek water. works great
Don't do that for an auto i see stunt in it's future. I noticed if the roots hit the bottom for 2 long then it either goes into flower or it stunts.
Maybe make a video about the use of tent spacing. Like A 2x4 fits 2 plants perfectly. How do you use a 3x3? Is that 1 giant plant? Etc. explain good uses of each tent style.
Using citrus peels to rehydrate can get dry buds back to the proper humidity. Only use in two hour or less increments or you bud will smell soy sauce. But if done right I went from 38% RH to 62% just using citrus peels for about week now my bud hold humidity on its own no bovedas needed, smokes great and has a citrus terp profile. Happy growing!
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Moist cotton and grapes as well i am surprised they don't know this
Regarding the old weed not coming back to life I disagree as of recently ..
I had a big harvest last year , and I totally forgot about buds that I didn’t even trim , left in a closed trashbag , totally completely dry like powder almost .. I trimmed them and put them in a har with x3 62% bovidas , 1 hour later the bud is fire and most of the terpenes are there !! Incredible .. sometimes when you harvest a lot and search trough your old trimmings you find a bag with some gold in it :)
Great video guys !!
Totally did that recently. Found a whole ounce of fire. I was so happy jumping around the house😂. It was really funny.
Yo i have to recommend getting a wood moisture meter when youre drying and curing. The hygrometers are good but not totally accurate. Close though. But get a wood moisture meter. Theyre like $20-30. Take the guess work out!
Thx! I'm going to look into these now
I need to also research on what the optimum 💧percentages are for all parts of grow/dry/trim/store buds! Dial in the dry/cure is 🔑! Also, VPD is better measured by Bud surface temp and not leaf surface temp 😉
@@growshack9067 while there is a standard temp/humidity that is ideal for drying/curing, i personally have found that depending on where you live and time of year, it may require some tweaking. Drying in the middle of winter when the average household humidity in my region is like %30 rh is gonna be different that drying in mid summer. But ofcoarse, region dependant. Good luck mate and happy growing!
I like to use the clear Bonnie cups. I can see the roots then. I just set that cup inside of a regular black pot the same size to keep light out. 💚✌️
Find drying for full flavour is best done in a cardboard box within a cupboard with a bodeva pack, if the weather is extreme! The time it takes depends on the cultivar...indica dominant usually takes 5 -7 days and it's personal preference, I like the flower to retain about 10% moisture before jarring up!
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Those hygrometers are a MUST. Best way to put it is that you cannot detect moisture. You can barely detect with nose, but ur nose certainly cannot detect the difference btw 50% and 80%. There is just no way.
I just harvested my first and it came out perfect. I used a different approach >>> Purchased a large sealing tote and cut square holes in the side(4"x6" cutout on all 4 sides) + slapped A/C vent filter on those holes. Then took a noctua computer fan and attached it to one of the filters. The bud sat on racks in the tote. Hygrometer on the racks. I put the fresh bud in the tote and turned on the fan. As the humidity changed, I changed fan speed. U can also cover holes if evap rate is too much.
It's a simple setup. Lotta control. Plus the filter helps keep out mold spores. This device looks like a mushroom monotub with way bigger holes. Being able to control evaporation rate is really cool.
Timing of watering is something early growers definitely have trouble with and don't understand when and how much water to give. Depends on pot size, stage of growth, medium, cultivar, ect. But should have been included in timing somehow.
When Iam going away. What I do is lower my lights to the bare minimum. Than water your plants the day you are gonna leave heavy. And than when u get back in a week. You will still be a Lil wet. Another trick I do is cover the top layer of soil with either cardboard or aluminumfoil. I did this mid flower 🌼. And was truly successful.
I believe you can bring moisture back. However. Once those terpenes are lost, there is no getting those back.
You guys work good together. Thanks for info
If you use a clear solo cup inside a regular solo cup you can see the roots✌💚🔥
I found keaving the buds to dry on the plant has been the best for me. Dont cut your plant down leave in pot and let buds dry on plant for 20-30 days. Super dank smell and smooth smoke
Some great information! I'm looking for about 56-58 on the humidity and I have added in a stem with moisture still in it into the jars with buds that maybe dried a little to much. Did this as I was jarring the buds up at first. Thanks for sharing this information!
Im so glad I found this. I'm new to all this. And could use all the information you guys share. Thank you
Amazing conversation! Another excellent upload much appreciated!
I have also used the trick on putting a wet flower in a jar of dry buds to get some moisture back. I first heard of this tip from The Garden Sage. I felt it added some flavor too. Recently had some blue dream cured for 6 months, the moisture level was perfect due to bovda pack. I do feel overall I prefer a fresher flower and if dried properly one month cure in a jar is perfect. (In my mind)
Cheers y’all !
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I always freeze. A branch or too when I cut my plant that way if I ever over dry ill just throw some of that fresh bud in the freezer and it will bring it back for sure maybe not 100% but definitely worth it...thaw first
Something that can be done to rehydrate your dried bud.. is to add a fresh orange peel. That will bring back some moisture to your bud.
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Timing is definitely everything all around with growing. Good episode dudes. 👍
If commercial grower's dry to 20 % within 48hrs what timing should be used to start the drying process for a full flavor and terp production compared to bag appeal
I’ve found that when it’s dry like you like it…(or alittle before….) it’s ready to jar, regardless of the time spent on dry….use a hydrometer and adjust from there…even if you need to dump it back out, because it was wetter than you thought. Now that I’ve been doing it this way, my smell and flavor have been on fire🔥…in the winter in my house that means 4-6 days with alittle air flow👍🏽
If you wait till the trichromes are at where you like them to flush, then essentially they keep maturing for 7-14 days while you flush.
To raise the heat a bump, I use an incandescent 200w bulb in a clip light, with a dimmer, on timer with grow llight. Place in top of tent, aimed down. Dial in is super easy.😎😎😎😎
As the branch first appears I put a small ring around the shade leaf beneath this trains the branch out from the stem. By the time the branch is stronger than the shade leaf stem there is enough of a outward push from the stem to help with air flow, bud development and such.
Don’t twist the ring closed, had to learn that one the slow way.
This is the first episode I've watched where I had to turn it off due to a bro-science overdose. I typically love the show.
question for chris.... are you going to change any techniques on your grow after what youve learned so far from mr. bigsbee ? that flushing has no benefits and about how some stress could create more trichomes, so maybe trying some small stress during flower???
Yes, he opened my eyes to a few things for sure! Always trying to learn and improve. Thanks for tuning in PaulO!
@@MrGrowIt Him saying no darkness before chop is gonna have Many experts shaking their heads.??
@@stangcobra592 I think you mean "experts"
I'm trying to figure out for the life of me why you would keep wasting money and feeding nutrients, if if has no benefits? Please someone inform me?
@@Travelingwithkevandlila hmmmm... makes sense
I have never used a humidity dome or a heating pad and have never had issues. I grow mostly in the winter and the room averages 68-72 Fahrenheit and around 35% humidity. I have a humidifier I only use to dry the herb, for a slower dry.
Hell of a conversation
Damn . Rob let us in his head a little finally. Love it.. you guys rock.
Take the tip covers that come on fiskar scissors and put on the end of a pair of needle nose pliers. Been using the same pair for 10+ yrs.
I've found hanging until the stem slightly snaps and then putting into a brown paper bag, for a day or two before I do the jar burping part of curing works well for me.
Still learning and refining .
Cheers lads
Using led quantum lights, rotate your plants to where taller branch is towards outright of hot spot. And put short branches in hot spot
Start using the clear solo cups and you can see the roots
I used to pull 10-12 weeks but over time I switched to a 2/3 bronze trichomoniasis. But I only play with indica strands.
I wish I had a cut of white truffle! Sounds delicious!
What to see how your roots are doing from seed or clones into a Dixie cup
Use two cups one clear one colored cup
Place your plants in clear cup with your medium drop them in a colored cup then when you want to see what’s happening just lift and look make sure both have drain holes
And what do you say about trimming root by cutting off long strands
I’ve done this and have not seen any negative effects
Start in solo cups, transplant when u have 2 water back to back days, then cut entire 1 inch of bottom of root ball. Another good tip, trim bottom of solo cup, leavin a tiny strand of plastice ever 1 inch, just enought to keep bottom attached to cup. Put that cup into another untrimmed cup, so it can hold water. Then cut the roots as they grow out of the bottoms. Transplant once cup drys back to back days.
I'm confused
I stop on autos about 3 weeks into visible flower. I have had tops shoot up, but always leave them.. most time I get a fairly proper canopy, and without scrog. Just lst
If you want to eliminate 90% of stretch match your night temperature 🌡 to your day time lights on temp. Works 100% of tge time
✌❤from Arizona. Great video! I got a perpetual garden, trying to feed two old stoners. Got 3 tents 4 plants per tent. I tell you its been challenge. Nothing really works as planned. I have all the problems you talk about. Because of waiting for trichomes new growth( germinate new seeds)is delayed.
I turn my kitchen into my clone to early veg area to keep my prupetual grow going. Once your eight week strain takes 9.5 weeks flowering things get interesting.
Welcome to the jungle!
Good stuff on drying guys thanks!
Keep in mind though, that with hotter temperatures, you can get mold at even lower RH.
Actually the plant runs best at 80 to 85° leaf temperature and proper air circulation will prevent mold even with humidity up to 80% usually lower temperatures and higher humidity is what creates a mold problem.
@@danielmoriarty751 Close. But not really true. With higher temps you allow more water vapor to remain in the air, depending on the temp and FAE, you will get mold. You can circulate all the 80% RH air you want... Good luck my friend.
@@virtuatoons i’ve been doing this over 25 years. You can get powder mildew with humidity as low as 40% and temperatures in the 70s Air circulation is key. You might wanna look into VDP growing. Bottom line marijuana grows best with a leaf temperature of between 80 to 85°
@@danielmoriarty751 Who said 40%?
And you're saying circulation.. I think you mean fresh air exchange/circulation
Misnomer Pigeons, it's a weird misnomer
Props to you for trying to slam that one in then back out when you missed the slot 😉😂
I miss use that word all the time and I didn’t realize it until a couple months ago and I still catch myself.
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So someone showed me how to put orange peels or lettuce leaves in the lbs tht were super crunchy turnin into dust and u put those peels in there and every 3 hrs tke the bag out of the fridge and move it all around. By the time u do tht for one day it will b moistened again. If u over do the peels or the lettuce it will jst wet it but not how U want. What it does is it takes the water out of the peels and it goes into the buds.
Many people have weighed in on flushing pro and con, but my question is what causes black ash and chemical taste in bud if not lack of flush.
Too fast drying/curing more likely is the culprit.
Me personally, I always feed only water last two weeks, occasionally flush, but more for easier trimming, because they eat themselves out that way.
Tried both flushing and feeding all the way through, not so much of a difference tbh - but like Chris said in that one video - that's precisely the thing, if there's no real difference, you're only wasting nutrients in the end, better to flush
@@loopmantra8314 Thanks Loop, sounds like a good explanation. I didn't ask if he followed good drying/ curing protocol when I tried the product and found it lacking good taste and proper white ash. I assumed it was because it was lack of bringing down the salts in the end. The problem was only with one growmie that produced this problem more than once. Like you, and many others, I do water only for the last two weeks and have never seen this problem, and he bombs them till the end. Now I must find out how he dried them, I gotta know
Thanks for all the info
If dealing with photo's I recommend transplanting at the 2 week mark give or take a day or so. Of course if the plant looks healthy that helps if not then I'd have to cull a stunted one and start again for those prominent root zones
Also if a seedling leaf's start to touch the soil use a plastic tie to wrap them leaf's up in a pony tail to avoid any touching soil as that will cause all types of disease to occur
I have a question. I’ve never done any last and I’m wondering; when you tie something down, do you ever let it back up? Thanks you guys for this show. I got an email this morning from AC Infinity telling me my humidifier would be shipped in May. Pigeons I wrote back and thanked them for being a sponsor.
Great freakin show guys. One of the best yet. I recently was telling a growmie how one of my biggest things is "sequencing" my tasks. Like not being able to flower because u haven't cloned or lack of supplies which usually leads to another task having to be put off or done sooner than expected.
I always plan everything out now and always keep a journal.
You can always clone anytime in flower. Better if the clones are not needed for the next round. As they will need to reveg.
Mfing all star team right here keep the knowledge coming
Great show guys a lot of good points there I can relate to 👍and as usual some I can take on board. Always enjoy 🙏☕🚬
If I have buds that are to dry I'll add a piece of apple or half grape but check daily so it doesent mold
I store at 62% RH in 5gal buckets - never had mold. Maybe 70% is too high, but 62% is just fine.
For drying have you ever tried a probed moisture meter set on wood? Dry to like 12-13% and pop it in some grove bags. Lowers the guessing game.
Like Chris said had 3 of the same, last one small has hell, thought something was wrong, shes poppen NOW!
Yup. Flipped my clones to soon. Same problem.
If I've pulled a little too early, I put in a paper bag for a day or two. Easy peasy!
I like to use one screen "scrog" 2 times .... once to train earlier in veg. then I let it grow. then once I flip to flower I take it off and redo it . amazing results . 2 major l.s.t. sessions for the most part . and defoliating to expose all the nugs and cut all the rubbish on the underside .
here in the desert we have to watch out more for drying to much ....I"ve never had mold , thank God , but we do have to watch out for severe dryness .
Did you heard about rehydration? When you want to keep weed a long time , you must dry at 7-9% water. when you want to use it again, put in jar a piece of apple or something else wet, wait half hour. of course do that if you must keep it during year, to next september
Really great video
Year 2 starts now. Thanks guys!
The first grow I ever did I grew on the roof of the porch during summer…. I couldn’t even see it properly I’d just water everyday with a hose from the ground. I never added nutes not once. After a while it was huge so I got up there with pliers and literally broke it at the base and bent it in half and tied the broken end down. I kept up watering from the ground. Kept this up for about 4 months there about. Eventually I got up on the roof to get it down and ended up with nearly 3lbs of weed. Not bad for my first grow no fertiliser No anything.
You guys are awesome. Thanks for this show this morning. I needed it ! Ain't nothing like waking up in a mood to light my blunt and see a new show to cheer my day ✌️💪👍💨💨
This seems to be where I am having my biggest trouble. Growing is easy. I grew up on a small 4.5 acre farm. I get to harvest and it's like falling down a steep hill. Follow all recommend practices and it doesn't slap like I'm thinking it should. Could be the genetics, but prior to harvest, everything is as it should be.
I got 2 wy-kiki in flower now. One stretch 3x but one stretch like 0.25x got them out the same pack. The other 2 phenos I haven't flipped yet are really slow growing and short compared to the first 1
I prefer to transplant before the roots have hold of the medium. This way I can gently allow the roots regain a more natural growth in its larger pot. When doing HST its nice to have that space for root growth.
Hey love to here some different way train and when love hear this i am in mid flower i am still doing some basic bending and you will be suprized how much training you can do that will stress out the plant that can actually make the plant produce different tricomes due to the high and extreme stress abd doing it at the right time can make your canopy explode up full buds
Dry lotus/cure all day now!!! Put buds in brown paper bags without stacking it. Roll up bag tightly and place in your refrigerator. Leave there for 10 days without even moving. Perfect dry ready for jars.
Corn sprouted tea will slow the stretch and keep those internodes close.
2 weeks is good to transplant from seedlings to transplant again at least 1 month in veg to transplant again into flower. I do solo for seedling, 1 gal for veg and 3 gal for flower
I can't wait until Brotanical gardens adds Square1 genetics to there lineup.. straight 🔥⛽
You guys rock!!! great info flow constant!!😎🤓😎
You guys rock! You all give amazing informational conversation. Always great topics; keep up the great work and enjoy every moment 😀
Always a pleasure gentlemen 💨😎👊
Dewpoint vs Relative Humidity needed to be part of the drying conversation. Relative Humidity is RELATIVE depending on the air temperature.
That time you switch from drying to curing is purely personal preference and you can play around with a bunch of different techniques but the real question is if you grew some fire pack or not. You can mess up the dry/cure but you have to make mistakes to learn. Washing buds can help your mess ups or bird shit covered nugs. Good luck. 👍
Perfect topic love the show
Happy new year 🎊 grow a wonderful crop and smoke 💨 with the wonderful family
Multiple transplants would create multiple root zones. I wonder how this might affect the plant if at all.
its better to transpant up just 1 size up and do it often. but its also more work so you trade your time for the pants
Best episode from the #STASH
more Q&A too
Love your videos, lots of info & great vibe
I transplant photoperiods, but i dont like to transplant autos. I prefer to plant right into the 5 gallon pot. I just water in a lil circle around the plant until it starts to fill out the pot.
If you haven't covered this topic yet, what are your thoughts on putting plants through a 48-72 hour dark period before harvesting? Thanks guys
Great convo, everything said makes great sense. Tx again guys for all the info