This has been a total joy and a labor of Love to have worked on this. I hope that John, Dorothy, Louis, Arlene and Hal are smiling from the clouds and are pleased that they are still beloved and admired by all the fans.
Well, I would say this: Dorothy & Arlene looked great with beautiful dresses. Hal was always amusing. Louis was so distracting visually and devoid of a panelist’s personality, so that many may not have noticed he also didn’t have the voice. In vocal parlance the term is a ‘connected' voice, which is clear and projects. A great example of this was Martin Gable.
@@krystonjones In addition to being one of the finest stage actors America has ever produced, Martin Gabel possessed one of the finest speaking voices of all time. He was up there with James Earl Jones, Richard Burton, Jeremy Irons, Alan Rickman, Geoffrey Holder, Jason Robards, Jr. et al. Mr. Gabel was among those who could compel your attention whilst he was reading the Manhattan white pages of the telephone directory to you.
Love all the panelist. They were full of class. Mr. Daly had such a warm and sincere smile. Everyone contributed a unique bright spot to the show's success!
I cannot believe the first guy had no idea how many legs the mosquito had. I love these vids. Plus Mr. Daily is smoking as I see the smoke rise against his jacket with the first guy. Blows me away.
I absolutely love watching these videos. They have it all -- history, well-loved personalities, humor, and the fun of watching the panel work toward their goal. They deserve a lot of credit. They make their task look easy, but it really isn't. And the greatest credit goes to you for your labor of love in bringing these gems to us. Thank you very much.
Did anyone else let out an, "aww!" of disappointment when it came to an early end? :( Got to say though it was wonderful to see a new episode, especially an early one. Loved seeing an early John "freckles" Daly. :)
What a great, great joy it is to see this. Thank you so much to the folks behind this purchase in making it available, for public consumption as it should be. Such a coup! Call me nerdy, but it's thrilling to finally see.
Brilliant! I have a closet full of vintage dresses and accessories (circa 40’ - 60’s), gloves and all. I used to wear them daily about ten years ago. What better way to start working them back in to rotation. I wish I had seen your comment before Netflix discontinued The Andy Griffith Show. Be well, stay kind and blessings to all ~
I don't normally like the real early shows, but this was an absolute blast. I'm so glad it's in the hands of the fans. And, even though Steverino! was such a great talent, I always feel sorry for Louis Untermeyer when I see him. John looks like a kid here! Loads of fun, y'all.
I too prefer the "canonical" panel of Dorothy, Steve, Arlene, and Bennett, but I can't deny that Untermeyer was a very good game player! It was truly unfortunate how he got pulled from the show, due to what was essentially just mass paranoia.
@@Johnnycdrums And Hal Block who was sleazy, when not on the printed page, and all that prancing about and touchy, feely horse manure. I adore this show and did as a child in my ill-spent youth. But had I been a guest in these early shows I'd have probably said I am not a trained monkey nor do I wish to be touched by people I don't know, so I'll take my seat, thank you. And I say this as someone who has been in professional theater, acting.
thanks for this gift. I am rather young and just discovered WML from the BUZR network but since they only show one season over and over I looked to the internet and found this channel a few months ago to satisfy my WML appetite. Thanks for assembling this for the younger generations to discover and the older generations to enjoy.
Ordinarily I'd remove a comment referencing that channel because of a long ugly history I have with its parent company (which you'd have no way of knowing about, I'm sure). . . but YOUR comment? This one I'm leaving. :) Yes, the TV channel that shall not be named has been showing the same 40 or so episodes over and over and over again ad nauseum since the channel launched in June. It defies reason, it really does. But the good news is that the entire series is posted to this UA-cam channel for anyone to view any time they want, at the pace they want, in the order they want, and for free: All 757 episodes of the show that have been in reruns on GSN, plus a few more like this one. Thanks for discovering this UA-cam channel!
@@WhatsMyLine Thank you so much for offering these precious episodes for our viewing pleasure. As it happens, I'm in my 70s and my family watched these regularly, back in the day. What you have given to me and others around my age is a chance to re-live some of our childhood memories, one episode at a time! Many thanks. 😘
@@marysterling691 I was curious how Gary got involved in a WML channel. He does us all a great service providing many hours of pleasure for free as he stated. He is a gentleman. I kinda like it when he dresses down a poster for good reason 100% of the time.
Thank you for your time and money to bring us this episode. It's actually one of the most pristine copies of *any* show I've seen from that era. Kudos to you and the "magic pixies." 🤗
@@stevefish3124 Wrong; all existing episodes of the original CBS run are kinescopes (even the last season's colour episodes are on black-and-white kinescopes). This is even though they would have started recording on videotape at that time.
As a huge fan of the show here In England, I really appreciate all those who were involved in finding this episode and, showing it to us. This is pure gold. From a time when family shows were just that and good clean fun and.great entertainment. I just love the fashion, the panel and guests. John Daily was the best. Love to see the old adverts too. Thank you so much. Greetings moog.
I discovered this channel a few weeks ago at 129K subs, and now it's at 131K. Such a fun show, and without massive explosions and people running and screaming. A refreshing change.
When this show debuted in February of this year it was rather stiff and stoic, but it didn't take long for Arlene to almost single handedly inject some fun and personality into it.
To be fair most if not all panel shows, up to the last twenty years or so, would start off rather stiff and introduce more levity as panellists got the performers got comfortable. I'm a 70s kid and I remember most shows going that way. I think in modern times the networks ensure this isn't the case.....though it isn't half as interesting, I like seeing early episodes of things where it's not quite firing on all cylinders yet.
This might be the most pristine episode of the original What's My Line that I've ever seen; and the audio sounds incredible; it actually sounds like it might have been recorded in the 1970's! Excellent post, my man!
Isn't it great to see a modern transfer directly from an original kinescope? So much of what we enjoy here has been through so many generations of copying, compression, and corrupting with cable channel announcements...we enjoy it anyway, but it doesn't come close to the quality seen here. Bravo to Gary and his merry band of collaborators! (see the intro paragraphs below the UA-cam title, when the video image is not full-screen)
Actually the audio is still not up to 1970 standards. We are hearing voice microphones that are picking up audio from the entire studio. Not good shotgun mics or mics close to their mouths.
I appreciate your commentary on these episodes as much as the program. For years, I could view these shows only if I were visiting the Museum of Television and Radio ( entitled differently nowadays ) in New York. Thank you, Sir.
This was just a brilliant job, well done! Thank you Stan and Gary for your endless devotion to something you love. This was an experience I will always remember; watching this debut with you guys, commenting in real time. I have to admit, that I am grateful for the stupid internet for a few things, like this.
Amazing picture and sound, thank you, magic pixies! This is SO COOL. 65+ years now since the TV viewers across the USA saw this. WOW. It's fun to see JC Daly so young, along with Arlene and Miss Kilgallen.. I hope that sometime, some wonderful person might have FOUND other Lost episodes of WML? and share them with the planet. We need to see these! Thanks, to all involved in getting this on here. HOORAY!!
Thank you. I really enjoy watching these snapshots of history. I've been watching in order and will soon come up on my birthday, in November 1958. It'll be fun re-living my childhood. I used to beg my parents to let me stay up and watch this show, and then caught the re-runs after school in the early 70s. Oh yeah, and I remember reading Bennet's books from our local library. He totally inspired my sense of humor. Thanks again. You keep my memories alive!
My grandparents had one of the first TVs in Akron Ohio in 1950. They said people would come to watch from all over the block ( tho maybe not at 10:30 at night!). Our old WML friends were here beginning the wonderment of a new and powerful entertainment era. Thanks for this window back in time! Imagine the people of Oct 1950 watching it for the first time, just like us today in 2016!
Andrew: Interesting you would mention Akron, I'm from Canton and am interested in Vintage Cleveland/Northeast Ohio TV in general from this era. Based on a small bit of research I've done, WXEL-TV 9 (Forerunner to WJW-TV 8) carried Whats My Line? in the early years but were an ABC/Dumont affiliate. However, this particular episode, because of earlier commitments on Sunday at 10:30 was not shown on October 1. October 8 and beyond..Whats My Line was back on the Schedule..
@@TimL2005 Does your interest extend to the 1960s? Specifically, do you remember Ghoulardi? I watched very little WML? while growing up, but my sister and I would not miss Ghoulardi on Saturday nights. We still laugh about his antics. Unfortunately, very little of his work was recorded and there is thus a relative dearth of his material on UA-cam.
My parents had the second television in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles which they bought Easter weekend of 1946. There was only one station available and it broadcasted only a few hours per day. My father had about 200 feet of cable and had to walk over a lot of their yard before they could get the signal!
I LOVE old-time, New York-based LIVE TV from the Early Years. It's like taking a trip back in time. These WHAT's MY LINE episodes are Important Documents of both Historical and Social importance. And they're Entertaining too!!
Agreed! I'm trying to get my niece and nephew to watch WML because of all the historic figures who showed up! How I WISH we had these programs when I was growing up!!!!!!!!
Must be a great show. I liked it as a kid in the fifties and I appreciated your work for bringing us this gift now. Enjoyed the comments, except from the newer generations nothing creepy about this show.Thank you for sharing.
4:55 Arlene and Dorothy both laugh at Hal's suggestion to Louis to rephrase his question yet again. It's so cute that they do it almost in unison, and they sound a little alike too. Both such gorgeous, talented, and witty women!
How did I miss this when you first posted it six months ago? I'll add my name to the list of people in your debt for finding, restoring and posting this piece of history. THANKS! Also, in that first round, Hal Block was clearly working towards bartender, when Untermeyer jumped in and effectively stole his thunder. I think Hal showed a lot of good grace turning it into a self-deprecating joke,
I read that Hal Block was fired from the show in it's third season because of too many "risque" remarks. He looks like he was a heavy drinker as well. I also read that he died in 1981 from burns suffered in a fire at his Chicago apartment.. Poor Mr Untermayer was blacklisted because of his affiliation with Communist groups throughout his younger life.He passeed away in 1977. This show is kind of like a Rosetta stone of how people spokje and lived all through the 50's and 60's. Its an amazing show and all I can say is we have really gone down academically in todays world. The art of the spoken english language has really degenerated in todays society.
It's true that the panelists and contestants were well mannered, articulate and poised. But that applied mostly if one was white. There were few roles open to people of color in those days. John and the panelists did what they could to integrate the program. Many black performers were mystery guests: Harry Belafonte, Nat King Cole, Eartha Kitt, Sammy Davis Jr., Pearl Bailey, Johnny Mathis and others received the full respect of panel and moderator. It was only later that black people were on as regular contestants. And were treated with the utmost respect. An ugly episode occurred that demonstrated who John Daly was. He wanted a famous black singer on as mystery guest and apparently the powers at CBS refused to invite her. Too many people of color. The audience would object. John persisted, even threatening to quit over the dispute. The powers relented, the celebrity appeared and was greeted with thunderous applause. I was so proud of my WML performers. They did what they could to do what was right
That was really a great fun, to watch this episode. Thanks for providing this here on YT for the public. This was a very good episode (one exception is of course the walk of shame) A pleasure to see the panels good work, they worked quite a lot together in this episode and every time with great success. And for you Gary: I had a tiny bit of notion tonight, that the episode is on YT. And every time i looked on my phone while working, there was this pleasant anticipation: when I'm home, i'm going to see this new episode. What a joy for me all morning.
Thanks, this episode answers my question, ‘was JD a smoker?’ He always looked ill or extremely unhealthy, I suppose 77 years was a good innings considering. He left his legacy by naming all 4 of his boys John. Considering there is a drink named John Daly I presume he was also a big drinker. For me, his trademark will always be holding women’s hands whenever he could.
@@krystonjones "... whenever he could"?? People back then weren't afraid of sue-happy lunatics. Many people coming on the show were often not experienced in being in front of the camera, and came from smaller towns, and were nervous. John Daly comforted a nervous guest with hand-holding or an arm around the shoulders. That's the way it was back then.
@randysills4418 rember Mr Daly was a wartime correspondent and reporter. I'd bet he found something J EDgar Hoover kept hidden about Dorothy's death and it weighed heavily on him.
Interesting that at this point John is addressing the instructions about the game to the panel, not the contestant: "Ten flips and you lose the game." He said that twice. Later, of course, he addressed the contestant (who is the one who needed the briefing) and said "ten flips and you have won the game."
Thank you so much. I get this twice a day 2:40 AM or sometime in the afternoon in DC and I always try to catch it. I grew up with this TV being the first in my house in 1950 and to see the first show again isa gift (as you probably well know!). I am starting at the beginning of your presentation. Some that I liked the most came after they changed formats ...there seem to be about 5 or 6 I can count when they stopped the guesses, then stopped the walk (hike) downs, etc. but never changed the 50 (10 questions). Some favorites include Joey Heatherton, (I'm a fan), Fred Astaire when he was asked to "do one dance step on the way out", the good scheme when Desi and Lucy came on, and of course when both Johnny Carson (briefly was a panelist along with Groucho. I better stop now since gathering up names is difficult for me at best. But THANKS THANKS THANKS and Goodnight Mrs. Callabash, wherever you are!
Nice to see what the overhead mike looked like in 1950, even if it is a shadow. I do not remember mike shadows in the Gloria Swanson episode, but then I was looking for one either.
and thanks to Stan and thanx to Gary and those listed at the end for getting this landmark available for public view. It looks great, too. I was afraid it was stored somewhere where it got ratty -- but the picture and sound quality are first rate despite its age and the primitiveness of 1950 TV.
Woooowwww... What marvelous ladies in the episode !!! Wish I had been in the audience back then !!! Thank you for sharing with us the wonderful discovered gem. Cheers !!!!!
I agree. The perp walk and the wild guesses had to go. And to have each panelist walk in and then be seated was great. We got to see what Arlene and Dorothy were wearing. And for the contestants to shake hands with the panelists as they left was a nice addition. We surely got to see the program develop through its growing pains.
thanks so much for finding and putting forth the effort to restore and make available these treasured episodes. I only download YT vids because YT is unscrupulous/shady about removing things on a whim and I want to save them for viewing offline. edit: your watermark is indistinguishable and less annoying than tv channel ones.
Thanks, Jennifer (and sorry for the late reply)! I don't have any problem whatsoever with people downloading a copy of this video. I just don't want to see the video stolen by another UA-cam CHANNEL. Glad the watermark wasn't distracting. :)
I'm fascinated, as are others, by the "HiFi" soundtrack. My guess is that this episode's sound may have been recorded onto audio tape (which was somehow preserved) and not, as I'm guessing was the usual practice, of recording the sound onto the optical track of the film. Either that or some great technique was employed which just isn't evident in most of the other films. It's great to have an extra episode of future Poet Laureate Louis Untermeyer. Such a loss to the show that he was sacked.
TV camera image tubes of the era tended to "burn in" if left pointed at a static image for a long period. I thought the "sign in" camera had such a burn until I realized that it is your WML channel watermark. Good idea - at least the "borrowers" will have to give you credit for this one, at least (and I expect they're too lazy to try to edit it out). Thanks for a really nice piece of TV history.
I remember watching this video when it first appeared, I think it was at 10PM Sunday EST just like the original transmission. But I kept getting interrupted by a crazed family member that was going through one of their psychotic episodes. Did not enjoy watching this for the first time, unfortunately. But I’m glad it’s still on UA-cam. Thank you WML channel.
The accolades for seeing this emerge at long last could fill many pages! I'll note some context for Hal Block's wild guess comment about the Brooklyn Dodgers in the second spot. Earlier on this day, October 1, 1950 the Dodgers lost the NL pennant to the Phillies on the final game of the season in a dramatic extra inning game where the Phillies Dick Sisler hit a three run home run off ace starter Don Newcombe. The Dodgers would lose the pennant the following year to the Giants in even more dramatic fashion.
And that losing of the NL pennant - to the Philadelphia Phillies! - led to Walter O'Malley's ordering the firing of manager Burt Shotton. He was replaced by Charley Dressen (who would appear as a Mystery Guest a couple of years later).
+epaddon Great catch! As big of a long time Dodger fan as I am, I will admit that I didn't catch the date and tie it to that game, although I am quite aware of what happened that day and how it ended the Dodgers season. (Had the Dodgers won, it would have forced a best of 3 game playoff with those same Philadelphia Phillies aka "Whiz Kids".) While this wasn't nearly as bad as what happened to the Dodgers the following October, it was still a hard loss to take as the Dodgers lost the game at Ebbets Field and they had an excellent chance to win the game in the bottom of the ninth when the first three batters in the inning reached base safely (actually four, but Cal Abrams was thrown out at the plate to keep a run from scoring). The difference between 1950 and 1951 was that the Dodgers had blown a huge lead in 1951 to the Giants, while in 1950, they were trying to catch the Phillies from behind. They trailed the Phillies by two games with two to play head to head against them. They won the game on September 30 to stay alive until the last game.
While the loss may have contributed to Shotton's firing, it was probably a moot point. After the 1950 season, Branch Rickey's contract as Dodgers President had run out and O'Malley was able to force him out as he had effectively gotten control of the shares of the third shareholder in the team, shares that were previously loyal to Rickey. Shotton was Rickey's man through and through. There association went back over 30 years. Shotton played for Rickey when Branch managed the St. Louis Browns. Branch wouldn't go out to the games that were played on Sunday and Shotton managed the team in his absence. After O'Malley gained control, he invited Shotton to come to meet with him in Brooklyn. Shotton never responded. He knew the meeting was a formality, an excuse to get him there to fire him. The real casualty of the final game was Dodger third base coach, Milt Stock. He was the coach who waved home Cal Abrams on Duke Snider's single, only to be thrown out at the plate by center fielder Richie Ashburn. While Ashburn was a great fielder at running down fly balls and he is now in the Hall of Fame, he had a notoriously poor throwing arm. But Ashburn had the advantage of the ball having been hit very hard by Duke and the fact that he was charging toward the infield when the ball was hit, expecting Duke to lay down a sacrifice bunt. Thus he was far shallower than he normally would have been against the Dodgers slugger, plus his momentum was carrying him toward the plate, always an advantage for an outfielder trying to throw out a runner at home. Even so, it wasn't a terrible move by Stock. The Dodgers still had runners on second and third with one out (the same as if Snider had bunted successfully), and when Robin Roberts (who would notch his 20th win that day) walked Jackie Robinson intentionally to load the bases, the Dodgers still had an excellent chance to win with two very good hitters coming to the plate. But Roberts rose to the occasion. Carl Furillo fouled out to first and Gil Hodges flied out to right. The Phillies victory was part of the end of one of the most regrettable chapters in baseball history. When the Phillies went on to play the Yankees in the 1950 World Series, it was the last World Series were neither team was integrated. In fact these two teams were among the last to be integrated. The Yankees would go five more seasons before Elston Howard became their first black player in 1955 (the 13th team to integrate at the major league level) and the Phillies would take seven seasons before a fringe major league player by the name of John Kennedy played a few games for them in 1957 to make them the 14th team (and last in the National League). The Tigers would finally integrate in 1958 and the Red Sox in 1959.
Lois Simmons You're right: That 1950 Philadelphia Phillies team still had many of the players and coaches who were shouting racist taunts at Jackie Robinson during his rookie season with the Brooklyn Dodgers (1947), including the team's manager, Eddie Sawyer. When Detroit did integrate in 1958, they did it by trade (Ozzie Virgil, acquired from the San Francisco Giants) and by promotion from the minors (Coot Veal, unless I am mistaken). When Boston integrated in 1959, their first black player was Elijah "Pumpsie" Green.
I note that the elimination of the wild guesses and the "Walk of Shame" is years away at this point. Eventually, they'd not only do that, but switch to a dark chalkboard with white chalk for signing in, and one built into a cabinet so it didn't move around. I think the white chalk on the dark background looked a lot better on television. Eventually, they'd also change the rules, years away, for questioning the mystery guest. But it's actually interesting to see WML in its "primitive" state. Also, the state of TV shows in general when the medium was in its relative infancy.
I noticed that Louis Untermeyer frequently calls for a conference, explains his thought processes, and often conveys the answer to the panelist about to ask a question. This led to exceptionally early winning by the panel and the guest receiving very little money. It's obvious that this was far less common in later years and wonder if this was realized and discouraged by Daly, staff, or G&T.
Thank you so much for this gem, and for the hard work to get it to us in such good shape. I've always wondered what Kathleen Winsor looked like. I read my parents' first edition of "Forever Amber" when I was sixteen, many decades ago, and it was really hot stuff.
+What's My Line? "Forever Amber" is laughably tame by today's standards. It follows the social rise of an English peasant girl and her star-crossed love for a Cavalier adventurer during Restoration England. Amber gains the world but loses her soul in the process. Winsor lived in my old Oakland, CA Rockridge neighborhood during WWII, with her soldier husband's family, and did her "Amber" research at Doe Library on the UC Berkeley campus. She does bring the 1660's vividly alive, as she shovels an exhaustive amount of detail on Newgate Prison, British theatrical customs, and Court Intrigue (Charles II) into her novel. In later life, she lived in the Elmwood district of Berkeley. Shortly before this WML appearance, she was married to Artie Shaw, among others. I've heard that the book was even racier, but her editors made her take out all references to homosexuality, which is hilarious given that Amber spends some time as an actress on the English stage. But, Winsor manages to infer a lot via her characterizations. The book was a red hot sensation in 1944, when first published, and it actually caused a scandal. Kathleen Winsor herself was notorious! Maybe that's what Benny and Allen are referring to. It's hard to believe that at 16 years old, I devoured the book! The movie, starring Cornel Wilde and Linda Darnell is a hoot, with both of them badly miscast in full 1940's glory.
lemorab1 I have a feeling there was a minor spike in Google searches on the name "Kathleen Winsor" as a result of this video surfacing! :) Yes, the jokes on the old radio shows were all about how racy the book was for its time.
this conversation is 2 years old. If anyone should read this now, 2018, The 1947 movie is here on youtube. I just watched 15 minutes of it because of this episode.
@@lemorab1 It's too bad that Bennett Cerf wasn't on the panel for this episode. He and Kathleen Winsor went on war bond tours together during WWII. In the 1960s, Bennett was closely involved in publication of another book by Winsor, "Wanderers Eastward, Wanderers Westward", a historical novel set in Montana in the 1860s.
No one else has commented on this yet-- did anyone else notice that during the first round free guesses, everyone laughed so hard at Hal's setup, "I think she's a modernistic designer for a pretzel factory", his punchline was barely registered? The joke was supposed to be what came after: "A few new twists." Apparently the audience was already well conditioned, even this early on, to laugh at Hal's jokes, even before he'd made a joke! I consider this evidence-- though admittedly flimsy-- that he was very important to the show in its early years. I've long felt we have a very skewed picture of both Hal Block and Louis Untermeyer's value because we have so few of the shows they were on available to view today. By the time these shows were being preserved in July 1952, Hal was already well on his way to being a thorn in everyone's side. My gut feeling is that he fit in much better in these early shows that are mostly lost.
What a shame that so many episodes after April 12 have been lost. As a baseball fan since the 1950s, it would have been especially great to see Dizzy Dean and Jackie Robinson as mystery guests.
They would have never guessed in a million years that's 73 years later people would be watching this on their phones
These WML episodes are pure unadulterated You Tube crack. I can't stop watching these amazing time capsules. Thank you immensely for your efforts.
They are addictive to me as well. I always watch them, or the cat and otter videos, or Jay Leno's Headlines before I go to sleep. Better than Sominex.
Yes they’re simply addictive. 🤣
They are addictive.
Most of them were aired before I was born,1959
This has been a total joy and a labor of Love to have worked on this. I hope that John, Dorothy, Louis, Arlene and Hal are smiling from the clouds and are pleased that they are still beloved and admired by all the fans.
^^^ That's Stan's account, folks. Took me a few comments from "CharleyChase" before it registered for me, so I figured I'd point it out. :)
CharleyChase beautifully expressed....♥️
Well, I would say this: Dorothy & Arlene looked great with beautiful dresses. Hal was always amusing. Louis was so distracting visually and devoid of a panelist’s personality, so that many may not have noticed he also didn’t have the voice. In vocal parlance the term is a ‘connected' voice, which is clear and projects. A great example of this was Martin Gable.
@@krystonjones In addition to being one of the finest stage actors America has ever produced, Martin Gabel possessed one of the finest speaking voices of all time. He was up there with James Earl Jones, Richard Burton, Jeremy Irons, Alan Rickman, Geoffrey Holder, Jason Robards, Jr. et al. Mr. Gabel was among those who could compel your attention whilst he was reading the Manhattan white pages of the telephone directory to you.
Thanks Charley
Absolutely great game! What was your job in all of this?
Many thanks to all who rescued this episode! Great Job!
Thanks for sharing this historic episode. Pretty delightful!
"is he a mosquito doer-away-wither?" i love Arlene 😁
Love all the panelist. They were full of class. Mr. Daly had such a warm and sincere smile. Everyone contributed a unique bright spot to the show's success!
I cannot believe the first guy had no idea how many legs the mosquito had. I love these vids. Plus Mr. Daily is smoking as I see the smoke rise against his jacket with the first guy. Blows me away.
I think he may have thought "yes, they have 4 legs, and then even more than that"
I absolutely love watching these videos. They have it all -- history, well-loved personalities, humor, and the fun of watching the panel work toward their goal. They deserve a lot of credit. They make their task look easy, but it really isn't. And the greatest credit goes to you for your labor of love in bringing these gems to us. Thank you very much.
Did anyone else let out an, "aww!" of disappointment when it came to an early end? :( Got to say though it was wonderful to see a new episode, especially an early one. Loved seeing an early John "freckles" Daly. :)
No, I was happy to see no more of that animal abuser.
Jonh was cute, love his laugher.
@@icturner23 To whom are you referring?
@@Jellyvibe I don't agree him about it, but it was the last guest, the Butcher, that L.C. Turner was referring to.
FYI, the description on this video explains the early end, if anyone was wondering.
I got addicted to these videos, every time I watch an episode I google up all the guests or even the panelist. Thank you from Indonesia.
What a great, great joy it is to see this. Thank you so much to the folks behind this purchase in making it available, for public consumption as it should be. Such a coup! Call me nerdy, but it's thrilling to finally see.
Fantastic! I dressed up in my best evening gown and diamonds for the occasion... :D
And that's something, considering you're a man! HAHA Just kidding.
Simmer down Frank.
Brilliant!
I have a closet full of vintage dresses and accessories (circa 40’ - 60’s), gloves and all.
I used to wear them daily about ten years ago. What better way to start working them back in to rotation.
I wish I had seen your comment before Netflix discontinued The Andy Griffith Show.
Be well, stay kind and blessings to all ~
Worth the wait! Thanks to all that made this available 60 years later.
I don't normally like the real early shows, but this was an absolute blast. I'm so glad it's in the hands of the fans. And, even though Steverino! was such a great talent, I always feel sorry for Louis Untermeyer when I see him. John looks like a kid here! Loads of fun, y'all.
+Jake Mabe Me as well. He was smart and charming and would've been great as a long term panelist. And he out-lived Bennett! :)
cottagechskitty q pl
The unfair blacklisting of Untermeyer was unfortunate. But on the program, he was an egotistical bore.
Untermeyer didn’t deserve the black listing, but was he ever a stiff bore and seemed quite full of himself.
I too prefer the "canonical" panel of Dorothy, Steve, Arlene, and Bennett, but I can't deny that Untermeyer was a very good game player! It was truly unfortunate how he got pulled from the show, due to what was essentially just mass paranoia.
Loving watching these shows. This one was 3 weeks before I was born!
I was 3 years old and if I remember correctly, we didn’t get a TV till 1951!
thank you so much for your tireless work to bring these classic T V program for us to enjoy.
THIS IS IT! The very first weekly episode in its' Sunday night debut! Is anybody else STOKED?!
Good thing they got rid of Dr. Hoffman and Governor Hoffman.
@@Johnnycdrums And Hal Block who was sleazy, when not on the printed page, and all that prancing about and touchy, feely horse manure. I adore this show and did as a child in my ill-spent youth. But had I been a guest in these early shows I'd have probably said I am not a trained monkey nor do I wish to be touched by people I don't know, so I'll take my seat, thank you. And I say this as someone who has been in professional theater, acting.
@@philippapay4352 ; Yeah, and he wasn't funny either.
Stoked? WOWed!!! Pleased!!!!
There just ain't no words.😂😅
@@philippapay4352 I agree except for your “trained monkey” comment. It’s no more acceptable for monkeys to be treated in that way.
What a great find! I thank you to all who helped put this together. May it be the first of many new lost episodes rediscovered.
thanks for this gift. I am rather young and just discovered WML from the BUZR network but since they only show one season over and over I looked to the internet and found this channel a few months ago to satisfy my WML appetite. Thanks for assembling this for the younger generations to discover and the older generations to enjoy.
Ordinarily I'd remove a comment referencing that channel because of a long ugly history I have with its parent company (which you'd have no way of knowing about, I'm sure). . . but YOUR comment? This one I'm leaving. :)
Yes, the TV channel that shall not be named has been showing the same 40 or so episodes over and over and over again ad nauseum since the channel launched in June. It defies reason, it really does.
But the good news is that the entire series is posted to this UA-cam channel for anyone to view any time they want, at the pace they want, in the order they want, and for free: All 757 episodes of the show that have been in reruns on GSN, plus a few more like this one.
Thanks for discovering this UA-cam channel!
@@WhatsMyLine Thank you so much for offering these precious episodes for our viewing pleasure. As it happens, I'm in my 70s and my family watched these regularly, back in the day. What you have given to me and others around my age is a chance to re-live some of our childhood memories, one episode at a time! Many thanks. 😘
@@marysterling691 I was curious how Gary got involved in a WML channel. He does us all a great service providing many hours of pleasure for free as he stated. He is a gentleman. I kinda like it when he dresses down a poster for good reason 100% of the time.
Thank you for your time and money to bring us this episode. It's actually one of the most pristine copies of *any* show I've seen from that era. Kudos to you and the "magic pixies." 🤗
Wow! Precious footage! I can't thank you enough for sharing it!
To be honest, I'm amazed the sound quality is way better than those kinescopes from the mid-1960s!
Magnetic video tape was first used in 1958. Thus there was no need to film a video sreen ie. A kinoscope. There were no kinoscopes made in the 60's
@@stevefish3124 Wrong; all existing episodes of the original CBS run are kinescopes (even the last season's colour episodes are on black-and-white kinescopes). This is even though they would have started recording on videotape at that time.
As a huge fan of the show here In England, I really appreciate all those who were involved in finding this episode and, showing it to us. This is pure gold. From a time when family shows were just that and good clean fun and.great entertainment. I just love the fashion, the panel and guests. John Daily was the best. Love to see the old adverts too. Thank you so much. Greetings moog.
Fantastic guys what a piece of history Amazing to see something so old restored and available I am forever grateful for your efforts and dedication
I am astounded that a tv recording that is over 70 years old looks and sounds so good.
I discovered this channel a few weeks ago at 129K subs, and now it's at 131K. Such a fun show, and without massive explosions and people running and screaming. A refreshing change.
Thank you for posting all the WML shows.
When this show debuted in February of this year it was rather stiff and stoic, but it didn't take long for Arlene to almost single handedly inject some fun and personality into it.
Eliminating two boring humorless men on the panel with way more interesting panelists really helped.
To be fair most if not all panel shows, up to the last twenty years or so, would start off rather stiff and introduce more levity as panellists got the performers got comfortable. I'm a 70s kid and I remember most shows going that way. I think in modern times the networks ensure this isn't the case.....though it isn't half as interesting, I like seeing early episodes of things where it's not quite firing on all cylinders yet.
That's what I was thinking. Arlene continued to add her piquant sense of humor throughout the run of this program.
Excellent point!
Terrible panelists surprised it survived them
This might be the most pristine episode of the original What's My Line that I've ever seen; and the audio sounds incredible; it actually sounds like it might have been recorded in the 1970's! Excellent post, my man!
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Isn't it great to see a modern transfer directly from an original kinescope? So much of what we enjoy here has been through so many generations of copying, compression, and corrupting with cable channel announcements...we enjoy it anyway, but it doesn't come close to the quality seen here. Bravo to Gary and his merry band of collaborators! (see the intro paragraphs below the UA-cam title, when the video image is not full-screen)
Actually the audio is still not up to 1970 standards. We are hearing voice microphones that are picking up audio from the entire studio. Not good shotgun mics or mics close to their mouths.
@@AllenFreemanMediaGuru For sure, it's easy to pick up the impromptu panel "conferences" from John Daley's microphone.
I would love to hear all the WML episodes In this incredible sound!
Kathleen Winsor’s novel will surely endure forever
I appreciate your commentary on these episodes as much as the program. For years, I could view these shows only if I were visiting the Museum of Television and Radio ( entitled differently nowadays ) in New York. Thank you, Sir.
This was just a brilliant job, well done! Thank you Stan and Gary for your endless devotion to something you love. This was an experience I will always remember; watching this debut with you guys, commenting in real time. I have to admit, that I am grateful for the stupid internet for a few things, like this.
+Vicki Manager Thank you for the kind words.
The audio in this episode is even better than the audio from the early 60's episodes posted on UA-cam.
Extraordinary! I'm sure watching the entire show, its a timeless and very entertaining experience😁
Amazing picture and sound, thank you, magic pixies! This is SO COOL. 65+ years now since the TV viewers across the USA saw this. WOW. It's fun to see JC Daly so young, along with Arlene and Miss Kilgallen.. I hope that sometime, some wonderful person might have FOUND other Lost episodes of WML? and share them with the planet. We need to see these! Thanks, to all involved in getting this on here. HOORAY!!
This is hands down the best audio I have ever heard from a kinescope. I'm floored by how good it sounds.
This was such a fun experience. Thank you for all you did to make this happen!
Thank you. I really enjoy watching these snapshots of history. I've been watching in order and will soon come up on my birthday, in November 1958. It'll be fun re-living my childhood. I used to beg my parents to let me stay up and watch this show, and then caught the re-runs after school in the early 70s. Oh yeah, and I remember reading Bennet's books from our local library. He totally inspired my sense of humor. Thanks again. You keep my memories alive!
My grandparents had one of the first TVs in Akron Ohio in 1950. They said people would come to watch from all over the block ( tho maybe not at 10:30 at night!). Our old WML friends were here beginning the wonderment of a new and powerful entertainment era. Thanks for this window back in time! Imagine the people of Oct 1950 watching it for the first time, just like us today in 2016!
Andrew:
Interesting you would mention Akron, I'm from Canton and am interested in Vintage Cleveland/Northeast Ohio TV in general from this era. Based on a small bit of research I've done, WXEL-TV 9 (Forerunner to WJW-TV 8) carried Whats My Line? in the early years but were an ABC/Dumont affiliate. However, this particular episode, because of earlier commitments on Sunday at 10:30 was not shown on October 1. October 8 and beyond..Whats My Line was back on the Schedule..
Mr. Jingeling how you ringleing keeper of the keys lol
One episode later in the serious a 7:30pm time of airing was mentioned. I’m guessing Eastern time.
@@TimL2005 Does your interest extend to the 1960s? Specifically, do you remember Ghoulardi? I watched very little WML? while growing up, but my sister and I would not miss Ghoulardi on Saturday nights. We still laugh about his antics. Unfortunately, very little of his work was recorded and there is thus a relative dearth of his material on UA-cam.
My parents had the second television in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles which they bought Easter weekend of 1946. There was only one station available and it broadcasted only a few hours per day. My father had about 200 feet of cable and had to walk over a lot of their yard before they could get the signal!
I LOVE old-time, New York-based LIVE TV from the Early Years. It's like taking a trip back in time. These WHAT's MY LINE
episodes are Important Documents of both Historical and Social importance. And they're Entertaining too!!
Agreed! I'm trying to get my niece and nephew to watch WML because of all the historic figures who showed up! How I WISH we had these programs when I was growing up!!!!!!!!
Your deranged capitalization is killing me.
Must be a great show. I liked it as a kid in the fifties and I appreciated your work for bringing us this gift now. Enjoyed the comments, except from the newer generations nothing creepy about this show.Thank you for sharing.
4:55 Arlene and Dorothy both laugh at Hal's suggestion to Louis to rephrase his question yet again. It's so cute that they do it almost in unison, and they sound a little alike too. Both such gorgeous, talented, and witty women!
Thanks to all involved for providing us with this look into the past of my favourite TV show
How did I miss this when you first posted it six months ago? I'll add my name to the list of people in your debt for finding, restoring and posting this piece of history. THANKS! Also, in that first round, Hal Block was clearly working towards bartender, when Untermeyer jumped in and effectively stole his thunder. I think Hal showed a lot of good grace turning it into a self-deprecating joke,
Enjoyed it very much! Arlene is such a delight, as always. Dorothy and Louis Untermeyer played the game well.
~Sheilah
This is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been waitin !! Popcorn is in hand ... Jiffy Pop ...
This is so cool! Thanks to everyone who made this possible......
I read that Hal Block was fired from the show in it's third season because of too many "risque" remarks. He looks like he was a heavy drinker as well. I also read that he died in 1981 from burns suffered in a fire at his Chicago apartment.. Poor Mr Untermayer was blacklisted because of his affiliation with Communist groups throughout his younger life.He passeed away in 1977. This show is kind of like a Rosetta stone of how people spokje and lived all through the 50's and 60's. Its an amazing show and all I can say is we have really gone down academically in todays world. The art of the spoken english language has really degenerated in todays society.
Tony Cevallos Watch a few episodes of "Judge Judy " for total language death.
Unfortunately, I think you're correct. Education and conversation are rarely valued in our society today. So sad!
He’s (Hal Block)not funny, that’s for sure.
Couldn't die in both 1981 AND 1977...seriously ? Let's make up our minds
@@gailsirois7175 Two different people, Hal died in 1981, Untermyer died in 1977
The quality of sound is so clear! Its unbelievable! Thank you for your preservation!
thank you for taking the time and putting in the effort needed to post it. I quite enjoyed this. Each episode makes me wish I was born back then.
It's true that the panelists and contestants were well mannered, articulate and poised. But that applied mostly if one was white. There were few roles open to people of color in those days. John and the panelists did what they could to integrate the program. Many black performers were mystery guests: Harry Belafonte, Nat King Cole, Eartha Kitt, Sammy Davis Jr., Pearl Bailey, Johnny Mathis and others received the full respect of panel and moderator. It was only later that black people were on as regular contestants. And were treated with the utmost respect. An ugly episode occurred that demonstrated who John Daly was. He wanted a famous black singer on as mystery guest and apparently the powers at CBS refused to invite her. Too many people of color. The audience would object. John persisted, even threatening to quit over the dispute. The powers relented, the celebrity appeared and was greeted with thunderous applause. I was so proud of my WML performers. They did what they could to do what was right
God bless John Daly!
This is the 17th of 877 episodes. The picture and audio quality is amazing, almost like video tape, which hadn't been invented yet.
Thanks, guys! Really enjoyed this.
+Rusty Frank Thanks Rusty!
Once again, thank You for posting WML shows.
That was really a great fun, to watch this episode. Thanks for providing this here on YT for the public. This was a very good episode (one exception is of course the walk of shame) A pleasure to see the panels good work, they worked quite a lot together in this episode and every time with great success.
And for you Gary: I had a tiny bit of notion tonight, that the episode is on YT. And every time i looked on my phone while working, there was this pleasant anticipation: when I'm home, i'm going to see this new episode. What a joy for me all morning.
John Daly doesn't seem like he changed much over the years until you watch this old episode.
Thanks, this episode answers my question, ‘was JD a smoker?’ He always looked ill or extremely unhealthy, I suppose 77 years was a good innings considering. He left his legacy by naming all 4 of his boys John. Considering there is a drink named John Daly I presume he was also a big drinker. For me, his trademark will always be holding women’s hands whenever he could.
Yeah, he smokes in this episode.
After Dorothy Kilgallen died, John Daly suddenly looked so much older...kind of like me in the last four years!
@@krystonjones
"... whenever he could"?? People back then weren't afraid of sue-happy lunatics. Many people coming on the show were often not experienced in being in front of the camera, and came from smaller towns, and were nervous. John Daly comforted a nervous guest with hand-holding or an arm around the shoulders. That's the way it was back then.
@randysills4418 rember Mr Daly was a wartime correspondent and reporter. I'd bet he found something J EDgar Hoover kept hidden about Dorothy's death and it weighed heavily on him.
Interesting that at this point John is addressing the instructions about the game to the panel, not the contestant: "Ten flips and you lose the game." He said that twice. Later, of course, he addressed the contestant (who is the one who needed the briefing) and said "ten flips and you have won the game."
Huh. I've watched this four times and never noticed that. I guess I'll keep an eye out for on the fifth viewing. Nice catch.
Noticed that as well, as someone who's watched the 1955 season a good deal and is now exploring the 1950 season, thanks to this channel.
I’m so glad they soon got bit of that creepy bit at the beginning where they stared and poked at the guests doing this and that.
Who knows maybe there's other episodes waiting to be unearthed...let's hope so!
I love these shows! Even the leetle commercials!😻
I really enjoy watching these vintage shows. A lot of fun!
This is so much fun!
Nice job. Much thanks to all involved
+Dick Wilson Thank you.
Thank you so much. I get this twice a day 2:40 AM or sometime in the afternoon in DC and I always try to catch it. I grew up with this TV being the first in my house in 1950 and to see the first show again isa gift (as you probably well know!). I am starting at the beginning of your presentation. Some that I liked the most came after they changed formats ...there seem to be about 5 or 6 I can count when they stopped the guesses, then stopped the walk (hike) downs, etc. but never changed the 50 (10 questions). Some favorites include Joey Heatherton, (I'm a fan), Fred Astaire when he was asked to "do one dance step on the way out", the good scheme when Desi and Lucy came on, and of course when both Johnny Carson (briefly was a panelist along with Groucho. I better stop now since gathering up names is difficult for me at best. But THANKS THANKS THANKS and Goodnight Mrs. Callabash, wherever you are!
The quality of this video is amazing
Thank you . This is beyond a treat !!!!
Nice to see what the overhead mike looked like in 1950, even if it is a shadow. I do not remember mike shadows in the Gloria Swanson episode, but then I was looking for one either.
+soulierinvestments I noticed it too, I just chalk it up to early broadcasting problems.
the sound is fantastic
The fidelity on this clip is fantastic! Most other Kinescopes are rather muffled sounding. This is very crisp.
and thanks to Stan and thanx to Gary and those listed at the end for getting this landmark available for public view. It looks great, too. I was afraid it was stored somewhere where it got ratty -- but the picture and sound quality are first rate despite its age and the primitiveness of 1950 TV.
+soulierinvestments It was an honor.
It was a stored 16mm black and white film (kinescope). The first black and white video tape recorder wouldn't be introduced until 1956.
What a pleasure watching this. Thank you.
Woooowwww...
What marvelous ladies in the episode !!!
Wish I had been in the audience back then !!!
Thank you for sharing with us the wonderful discovered gem.
Cheers !!!!!
These panel members were Creepy until they stopped making them demonstrate for them.
I agree
@@nolancain8792 great thank you for the update :)
I agree. The perp walk and the wild guesses had to go. And to have each panelist walk in and then be seated was great. We got to see what Arlene and Dorothy were wearing. And for the contestants to shake hands with the panelists as they left was a nice addition. We surely got to see the program develop through its growing pains.
This is truly a gem.
thanks so much for finding and putting forth the effort to restore and make available these treasured episodes. I only download YT vids because YT is unscrupulous/shady about removing things on a whim and I want to save them for viewing offline. edit: your watermark is indistinguishable and less annoying than tv channel ones.
Thanks, Jennifer (and sorry for the late reply)! I don't have any problem whatsoever with people downloading a copy of this video. I just don't want to see the video stolen by another UA-cam CHANNEL. Glad the watermark wasn't distracting. :)
Considering this is off a 65 year old film it looks and sounds great. Any cleanup or restoration done before it was posted?
Yes.
By invisible magic pixies.
+balconi71 The sound is even more amazing than the picture!
the sound is so good you can hear a dolly or light stand screech loudly at 3:39
DTB1997 it’s possibly the dolly wheel on the camera stand since the camera jerked at the same time.
I'm fascinated, as are others, by the "HiFi" soundtrack. My guess is that this episode's sound may have been recorded onto audio tape (which was somehow preserved) and not, as I'm guessing was the usual practice, of recording the sound onto the optical track of the film. Either that or some great technique was employed which just isn't evident in most of the other films. It's great to have an extra episode of future Poet Laureate Louis Untermeyer. Such a loss to the show that he was sacked.
Nice work getting and restoring this.
And, add me to the minority of Hal Block enjoyers. (Also Mr. Untermeyer.)
Glad you enjoyed it. Here's hoping more episodes turn up!
I will have to agree with you regarding Mr. Untermeyer -- I thoroughly enjoyed his unique addition to the show!
TV camera image tubes of the era tended to "burn in" if left pointed at a static image for a long period. I thought the "sign in" camera had such a burn until I realized that it is your WML channel watermark. Good idea - at least the "borrowers" will have to give you credit for this one, at least (and I expect they're too lazy to try to edit it out). Thanks for a really nice piece of TV history.
thank you for posting this - I keep asking myself how could I miss a show that was made before I was born -
I'm so excited.
Thank You,for sharing/ showing these What's My Line shows! Merry Christmas!!
I remember watching this video when it first appeared, I think it was at 10PM Sunday EST just like the original transmission. But I kept getting interrupted by a crazed family member that was going through one of their psychotic episodes. Did not enjoy watching this for the first time, unfortunately. But I’m glad it’s still on UA-cam. Thank you WML channel.
The accolades for seeing this emerge at long last could fill many pages! I'll note some context for Hal Block's wild guess comment about the Brooklyn Dodgers in the second spot. Earlier on this day, October 1, 1950 the Dodgers lost the NL pennant to the Phillies on the final game of the season in a dramatic extra inning game where the Phillies Dick Sisler hit a three run home run off ace starter Don Newcombe. The Dodgers would lose the pennant the following year to the Giants in even more dramatic fashion.
+epaddon Thanks for that explanation.
And that losing of the NL pennant - to the Philadelphia Phillies! - led to Walter O'Malley's ordering the firing of manager Burt Shotton. He was replaced by Charley Dressen (who would appear as a Mystery Guest a couple of years later).
+epaddon Great catch! As big of a long time Dodger fan as I am, I will admit that I didn't catch the date and tie it to that game, although I am quite aware of what happened that day and how it ended the Dodgers season. (Had the Dodgers won, it would have forced a best of 3 game playoff with those same Philadelphia Phillies aka "Whiz Kids".) While this wasn't nearly as bad as what happened to the Dodgers the following October, it was still a hard loss to take as the Dodgers lost the game at Ebbets Field and they had an excellent chance to win the game in the bottom of the ninth when the first three batters in the inning reached base safely (actually four, but Cal Abrams was thrown out at the plate to keep a run from scoring). The difference between 1950 and 1951 was that the Dodgers had blown a huge lead in 1951 to the Giants, while in 1950, they were trying to catch the Phillies from behind. They trailed the Phillies by two games with two to play head to head against them. They won the game on September 30 to stay alive until the last game.
While the loss may have contributed to Shotton's firing, it was probably a moot point. After the 1950 season, Branch Rickey's contract as Dodgers President had run out and O'Malley was able to force him out as he had effectively gotten control of the shares of the third shareholder in the team, shares that were previously loyal to Rickey. Shotton was Rickey's man through and through. There association went back over 30 years. Shotton played for Rickey when Branch managed the St. Louis Browns. Branch wouldn't go out to the games that were played on Sunday and Shotton managed the team in his absence.
After O'Malley gained control, he invited Shotton to come to meet with him in Brooklyn. Shotton never responded. He knew the meeting was a formality, an excuse to get him there to fire him.
The real casualty of the final game was Dodger third base coach, Milt Stock. He was the coach who waved home Cal Abrams on Duke Snider's single, only to be thrown out at the plate by center fielder Richie Ashburn. While Ashburn was a great fielder at running down fly balls and he is now in the Hall of Fame, he had a notoriously poor throwing arm. But Ashburn had the advantage of the ball having been hit very hard by Duke and the fact that he was charging toward the infield when the ball was hit, expecting Duke to lay down a sacrifice bunt. Thus he was far shallower than he normally would have been against the Dodgers slugger, plus his momentum was carrying him toward the plate, always an advantage for an outfielder trying to throw out a runner at home.
Even so, it wasn't a terrible move by Stock. The Dodgers still had runners on second and third with one out (the same as if Snider had bunted successfully), and when Robin Roberts (who would notch his 20th win that day) walked Jackie Robinson intentionally to load the bases, the Dodgers still had an excellent chance to win with two very good hitters coming to the plate. But Roberts rose to the occasion. Carl Furillo fouled out to first and Gil Hodges flied out to right.
The Phillies victory was part of the end of one of the most regrettable chapters in baseball history. When the Phillies went on to play the Yankees in the 1950 World Series, it was the last World Series were neither team was integrated. In fact these two teams were among the last to be integrated. The Yankees would go five more seasons before Elston Howard became their first black player in 1955 (the 13th team to integrate at the major league level) and the Phillies would take seven seasons before a fringe major league player by the name of John Kennedy played a few games for them in 1957 to make them the 14th team (and last in the National League). The Tigers would finally integrate in 1958 and the Red Sox in 1959.
Lois Simmons You're right: That 1950 Philadelphia Phillies team still had many of the players and coaches who were shouting racist taunts at Jackie Robinson during his rookie season with the Brooklyn Dodgers (1947), including the team's manager, Eddie Sawyer.
When Detroit did integrate in 1958, they did it by trade (Ozzie Virgil, acquired from the San Francisco Giants) and by promotion from the minors (Coot Veal, unless I am mistaken). When Boston integrated in 1959, their first black player was Elijah "Pumpsie" Green.
Tv has evolved so fast from 1950 to the end of the decade. Early shows such as that one looked like radio with image.
I note that the elimination of the wild guesses and the "Walk of Shame" is years away at this point. Eventually, they'd not only do that, but switch to a dark chalkboard with white chalk for signing in, and one built into a cabinet so it didn't move around. I think the white chalk on the dark background looked a lot better on television. Eventually, they'd also change the rules, years away, for questioning the mystery guest. But it's actually interesting to see WML in its "primitive" state. Also, the state of TV shows in general when the medium was in its relative infancy.
I noticed that Louis Untermeyer frequently calls for a conference, explains his thought processes, and often conveys the answer to the panelist about to ask a question. This led to exceptionally early winning by the panel and the guest receiving very little money. It's obvious that this was far less common in later years and wonder if this was realized and discouraged by Daly, staff, or G&T.
He interrupted Hal’s questions to ask for a conference. It should have been Hal’s prerogative. Hal seemed to be close to guessing.
He was a poet and edited compilations of poetry...
John typically hid his smoking on WML. This time out, the smoke gave it away :) Great post :) Hopefully we can discover more lost episodes
I’m sure I’ve seen him smoking on it loads of times.
He lit right up on screen several times, not necessarily this episode
Totally delightful. I was 6 months old when this show aired.
Thanks for posting this, it was great to see it!
Yes!! Thanks! So good to see young Arlene, Dorothy... and Hal
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT ALL BUT LOST T.V. SHOW !
Thank you so much for this gem, and for the hard work to get it to us in such good shape. I've always wondered what Kathleen Winsor looked like. I read my parents' first edition of "Forever Amber" when I was sixteen, many decades ago, and it was really hot stuff.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I know of "Forever Amber" only via references made to it in jokes on the Jack Benny and Fred Allen radio shows. :)
+What's My Line? "Forever Amber" is laughably tame by today's standards. It follows the social rise of an English peasant girl and her star-crossed love for a Cavalier adventurer during Restoration England. Amber gains the world but loses her soul in the process. Winsor lived in my old Oakland, CA Rockridge neighborhood during WWII, with her soldier husband's family, and did her "Amber" research at Doe Library on the UC Berkeley campus. She does bring the 1660's vividly alive, as she shovels an exhaustive amount of detail on Newgate Prison, British theatrical customs, and Court Intrigue (Charles II) into her novel. In later life, she lived in the Elmwood district of Berkeley. Shortly before this WML appearance, she was married to Artie Shaw, among others. I've heard that the book was even racier, but her editors made her take out all references to homosexuality, which is hilarious given that Amber spends some time as an actress on the English stage. But, Winsor manages to infer a lot via her characterizations. The book was a red hot sensation in 1944, when first published, and it actually caused a scandal. Kathleen Winsor herself was notorious! Maybe that's what Benny and Allen are referring to. It's hard to believe that at 16 years old, I devoured the book! The movie, starring Cornel Wilde and Linda Darnell is a hoot, with both of them badly miscast in full 1940's glory.
lemorab1 I have a feeling there was a minor spike in Google searches on the name "Kathleen Winsor" as a result of this video surfacing! :)
Yes, the jokes on the old radio shows were all about how racy the book was for its time.
this conversation is 2 years old. If anyone should read this now, 2018, The 1947 movie is here on youtube. I just watched 15 minutes of it because of this episode.
@@lemorab1 It's too bad that Bennett Cerf wasn't on the panel for this episode. He and Kathleen Winsor went on war bond tours together during WWII. In the 1960s, Bennett was closely involved in publication of another book by Winsor, "Wanderers Eastward, Wanderers Westward", a historical novel set in Montana in the 1860s.
This is great Gary! You are doing great work, pal! I hope we can find some of the radio shows.
There have been very significant developments recently in this regard!
What's My Line? I hope you break the story soon!
Too soon to say anything more yet, but there's definitely news. The question is only just how good the news will end up being. :)
@@WhatsMyLine 5 years later, is it still too soon?
This is better than most stuff on TV today
No one else has commented on this yet-- did anyone else notice that during the first round free guesses, everyone laughed so hard at Hal's setup, "I think she's a modernistic designer for a pretzel factory", his punchline was barely registered? The joke was supposed to be what came after: "A few new twists." Apparently the audience was already well conditioned, even this early on, to laugh at Hal's jokes, even before he'd made a joke!
I consider this evidence-- though admittedly flimsy-- that he was very important to the show in its early years. I've long felt we have a very skewed picture of both Hal Block and Louis Untermeyer's value because we have so few of the shows they were on available to view today. By the time these shows were being preserved in July 1952, Hal was already well on his way to being a thorn in everyone's side. My gut feeling is that he fit in much better in these early shows that are mostly lost.
+What's My Line? Yes, the chemistry of this panel was quite good.
Does anybody know which # this show was? I believe it's the first season, and I would guess it was one of the first shows.
WATCHMAN 117 This was the 19th episode.
+WATCHMAN 117 It shows that you are correct, S01, Ep01
Hal was from Chicago
Thank you!!
Hal Block was crude and rude. Wonder if he could've touched his toes? And his look wasn't far from that of a "food taster at the A & P." !!
So enjoyable. Thank you!
What a shame that so many episodes after April 12 have been lost. As a baseball fan since the 1950s, it would have been especially great to see Dizzy Dean and Jackie Robinson as mystery guests.
Was Arlene giving it an "Arsenio Hall" move at the 1:00 minute mark. Maybe Arsenio stole it from her?
Thank you so much, this was thoroughly enjoyable!