Birmingham pub bombings: IRA suspect Hayes issues apology - BBC News
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2017
- A self-confessed IRA bomb maker who has said he was part of the group responsible for the Birmingham pub bombings has issued an apology.
Twenty-one people were killed on 21 November 1974 when bombs exploded in two city centre pubs.
Six innocent men were wrongfully convicted. No-one has ever been brought to justice for one of the worst single losses of life in the Troubles.
Michael Christopher Hayes said he was sorry innocent people were killed.
The 69-year-old, who now lives in south Dublin, refused to say who planted the bombs in the Mulberry Bush and the Tavern in the Town, but said he was speaking out to give "the point of view of a participant".
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How about a new investigation in to the Dublin and Monaghan bombings as well, and the British State's support for the operation. Have Sky News any interest in discussing that? Or is "terrorist" a term that Sky only use for Irish people?
@@ghostdog733 fuck the ra, the ra was no good, when they started killing civilians and Irish civilians at that because of drug rings and racketeering they stopped fighting for a cause and become murderers.
@@stephenbermingham6554 You're talking about the Dissident Republicans. They aren't the Provos. Completely different factions.
Reddit user I can’t tell if you’re being serious or you are just incredibly naive
Yes, there is no way that was carried out by the UVF working alone. The devices were to sophisticated and how the hell did they get back over the border undetected. They had help i think from British security forces
@@stephenbermingham6554 Dumb fuck do some research
Attrocities were carried out on all sides. Thankfully there is peace and people have a chance of normality.
Ireland will never be at peace
No laddie, PIRA and INLA committed disgusing atrocities, dont not even try to justify the filthy IRA in all ots forms
@@k43mc73 As long as the IRA keeps attacking protestants they don't like.
@@k43mc73 good they don’t deserve it
@@qualitycroissant8527 England could be bombed everyday for the next 20 years and it still wouldn't make up for the your empire atrocities, but here I am saying I wouldn't be fair. I have to say you are a scumbag.
This is why, when it comes to major crimes like this, a simple confession should not be enough to get a conviction. The Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four were convicted solely based on their confessions which they were forced to give. There was no evidence to link them with these acts of terror. IMO, these confessions should have never been allowed. Apart from the victims themselves, the real tragedy of this crime is that the real bombers have still not been caught.
im english disgusted by british no justice in their courts even when they know people are inocent
that happens with english too
@@marcusknight6306 Patrick Hill, one of the Six, who now works to free wrongly-convicted prisoners one said that there are more innocent people in British jails than there were when he was convicted. If that's true then nothing has changed in 45 years.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390
I remember a guy who'd been arrested as a young fella (who hasn't) and then he settled down, partner, kids? etc. The police came for him one day and accused him of a burglary. They'd found his prints on a vase in a burgled house.
He was a market trader so surmised he'd picked this vase up in a cash & carry and put it back.
The woman home-owner swore that she'd have washed and wiped this vase in the years of ownership so any prints were recent. I think he got 2-3yrs.
But he was pixxed as he was telling anyone who'd listen. I saw this on a wrongly convicted TV program.
And then we have Michael Stone. There's no forensics holding him, only the word of a supposed cell confession shouted thru a wall in preposterous circumstances.
@@TeddyBear-ii4yc I realize that no judicial system is perfect and are subject to human error. Sometimes that error can lead to the wrong people being charged for crimes they did not commit. And while there may not be a way to prevent this from happening 100% of the time, the police must present irrefutable evidence that a person has indeed committed a crime. Convictions should not based on circumstantial evidence alone.
"Real Volunteers".... Never Talk🤐
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Shit tell that to "the dark" or "Dolores price" they told them pricks in Boston everything. They were hard core volunteers!
@Eammon Wright Gerry Adams is a scumbag killed a single ma! No justification for that ! Hes a Brit agent
Isn't it strange that false "Royals" cause death in this day of information.
Real volunteers shiver under their beds scared of cockroaches in the shadows sneak around pubs leaving bombs under tables behind juke boxes then go home snd put the baby to sleep
REAL VOLUNTEERS EH
If He didn't do the bombs he says later on. How the hell did he know exactly where the 3rd bomb was he allegedly defused!
He planted the pub bombs along with Michael Reilly, he was at the other end of Birmingham ( Digbeth ) when the bombs went off!
Totally agree bro, I lost family in the "Tavern In the town"
@@samuelpepys2108 👍
Samuel Pepys James Gavin was the other bomber. I have no idea what Mick Hayes part was in this.
@@MrAug80 He made the bomb, its said in the video.
So is this guy going to be arrested and charged?! he has admitted he participated in a crime in an interview, What ever his role in the bombings,21 people lost their lives, and many others were injured. Or is the UK government and British Police force, just going to let this man, live his twilight years in peace and freedom!
As far as I'm aware, under the Good Friday Agreement he cannot be prosecuted
@@liberalirishman1425 yes he can but in reality he hasn’t confessed to anything a confession must be made under caution
Obviously yes
@liberalirishman1425 not entirely true, he would be convicted and freed immediately under the terms of the GFA
Many hundreds of victims have been murdered by those working for the crown forces. Justice Eludes all those innocent victims. Where those who do violent acts on both sides it is the innocents of all sides who pay with their Blood
Fair play to him he is a and he had No Idea How Destructive It Has Been
You want to investigate that but not Bloody Sunday? Or you want to try him but not any soldiers who commited war crimes? The facts are like this your in our country, but there is no need for violence. There has been horrible suffering on both side. You either forgot it all or you try everyone! There’s no innocents on either side. So rest in peace to EVERYONE WHO DIED IN THE TROUBLES. Pen is mightier than the sword, but it’s hard to see that when emotions cloud your judgment.
Take your own advice. There was an official apology for Bloody Sunday. Birmingham Six got vindicated. Was there one for this? No. In fact, you guys seem to celebrate your sectarian shite even now. I suppose "learning from the past" is for other people while you celebrate car bombers.
I'm a republican but there was something creepy about this guy and I wouldn't trust a word he says
He sounds like a Loyalist you mean
32!!
Fuck the ira terrorist rats. They killed my grandfather .
Mr Heidelberg I’m so sorry mate. Bunch of terrorists they are. Acting like camouflage makes them a legitimate army. Most young folks (from my perspective) despise the IRA.
@@CloudCharlie you haven't a clue what your talking about, or what you Brits done in my country 🇮🇪 for years you have more blood on your hands then IRA🇮🇪have fact 🇮🇪32
If you can do that without facing jail time all is not well in the world.
So very true - but the same can be said for the atrocities committed by loyalists and British security personnel. Not all deaths were at the hands of republican paramilitaries - republicans murdered 723 innocent civilians, Loyalists murdered 878 innocent civilians and British security forces murdered 187 innocent civilians. All of these murders are wrong and all culprits should be charged with these killings.
@Jerry Terry Personally I haven't murdered any civilians Jerry. The paramilitary groups that I have mentioned above - republican,loyalist and British forces - now they have all murdered civilians. All of them vile acts. The amount doesn't really matter because the murder of an innocent civilian by the provo's in Birmingham is the same as the murder of an innocent civilian in Derry by british forces. All cowardly acts perpetrated against easy targets.
The British tortured Ireland for 800 years. A tiny bit back is fair.
They say it was a conflict between Catholics and protestants. I did not see Christians on either side.
@@arthurgoodness7865 Operation strawman.
"I had no intention of hurting you..." says the bomb maker...... what???
maszlagma exactly
Yeah seeing as no waring was given ...
Well the IRA always warn when they attack, they warn to evacuate and stay the FUCK OUT OF IRELAND
LeWiS pLaYz Look pal it's no use targeting your bile at us it's no going to get you anywhere . Your anger should be targeted at the government and at the moment it seems Northern Ireland wants to remain a part of the UK. When the majority of people there want to reunite with the Republic of Ireland then they can , in this case a delayed warning was given and to be honest it's not the first time the IRA have given a garbled warning with Warrington being another case where a bomb was deliberately placed in the path of fleeing people aiming to cause maximum damage . I don't recall the IRA being remorseful for that incident
As Tim Parry's father said the people who plant these bombs more than likely do not feel any remorse for what they did and so called apologies mean nothing . I would take his view over most people's anyday seeing as he's met a few Sinn Fein members.
they used to ring thje police half an hour before it went off so the civillians could get out. they only used bombs to do damage to infrastructure that would cost the british elite/establishment money so they would drop there war because it would cost so much. however that night the nearest pay phone was broken and by the time they got to the next one there was only 9 mins before it went off and the police couldn't get there in time, so unfortunately that time they did kill people but they always rang up half hour before when there was a working phone nearby in every other case, you should of done your research before commenting because now you look ignorant
So why wasn't he arrested and charged?
Lock him up and throw away the key
There is a book by now deceased Sean O Callaghan a former IRA informer called"informer"where he mentions a man called Mick Hayes quite a lot.Judging by what I've read this is the same guy.Its a good read and if you have an interest in the troubles then its worth getting.
Walter mitty callaghan
You only say 'Walter Mitty' because he exposed IRA lies.
An informer called "informer". You wouldn't say...
@@invisibleman4827The irish police force (who had members killed by the IRA) called him a fantasist.
I’m calling the lie on the Harley rd bomb. A policeman accidentally activated the detonator on that bomb when he was prodding the bag with his truncheon, but the bomb didn’t go off. If you’re defusing a bomb, you don’t leave the detonator active.
Wth. As a black American, I thought the cocaine Cowboys was crazy.
Yes the government is responsible the police who fitted them up are responsible these are the people who truly need to be held to account if you can't see that you'll never see it remember innocent people went to prison Conlan Paddy he'll never recovered may God Have Mercy on all our souls
So the government planted the bombs and blew up 21 innocent brummies? Hmmmm
And are the people who planted the bombs and organized the attacks responsible ?
@@terryjross1184 fact is the culprits admitted to the police they done it and the police let innocent people rot in jail for 15 years...... guilty of being Irish.... definitely a miscarriage of justice.... culprits should have been locked up for the attrocitiy
@@jackietreehorn5561 agree but it was all handled by the grey ghosts who had other agendas beyond politics everyone knew those blokes never did it they were patsies and the crew that did do it just let them rot which is unthinkable
The west midlands police were just bad news so corrupt
The irish who lived in brum for decades copped the backlash it wasnt just that nights events but the months after were terrible
@@terryjross1184 mate with all due respect, brum police were never as bad as the ruc in the north.....they were a sectarian regime part of the aparteid state.....English people and even squaddies couldn't comprehend the bitterness here.... thankfully it is in the past tho...I'm all about progress
how did he know where to find the third bomb...? how did he know he had time to defuse it...? if he knew where the third bomb was and when it was timed to go off he must have known where and when the others were going go off. how can this guy not be taken in as an acsessory to murder...? he clearly was involved closesly with what was going on. how can he not be charged with beinf accessory to this just on the strength of what hes already admitted ?
Yes what a load of s h I t e
He knows brum well
The way he said ' on the hagley rd' is how a local would say it
No intention of hurting anybody? Wtf
I had a cousin killed in this
So sorry to hear that.
In Sean o Callaghans book 'informer' this guy was mentioned a lot and was held to be something of a simple minded buffoon.In this interview he comes accross as a bit of a fool,but a dangerous one nonetheless.
Is it a good book Greg?
@@irishcountryman4866 It is but not as good as the book written by ex IRA man Eamon Collins "killing rage" there is a documentary here about him here on youtube
why pay TV license? free here
The Birmingham Six spent some 17 years in prison for a crime they did not commit. Confessions were beaten out of them by police and prison staff in what can only be described as torture by the British state (mock executions, letting attack dogs within a foot of them).
Heavy handed action by those in Authority were an unnecessary shot to the foot, and those responsible should be ashamed. Britain's international reputation for impartial justice was badly degraded. Although prosecuted, all those responsible for the beatings were acquitted in trials presided over by clearly bias judges.
Jack, the Japan Alps Brit
They were IRA supporters and they definitely would have known who the real bombers were. 17 years in jail is fuck all compared to the Innocent Birmingham people murdered. You're all quick is moan about the poor wrongly Imprisoned IRA cowards. RIP innocent people of Brum, I for one will never forget you.
@British Chipvert true
Matthew Armitage so forcing confessions out of people and falsely imprisoning them is fine just because they were accused of killing soldiers in a pub
They were released due to misconduct during the investigation. That doesn't prove their innocence
@@liamclarkpiano4559 So my Auntie who was killed In the Birmingham pub bombings was a soldier was she, you fool. Fuck the IRA, up The UVF
Good
Honestly, what has this man got left to lose by coming forward and admitting his part in planting the bombs, and finally giving the family's of the victims of the victims some sort of closure. When you look into this pathetic creatures eyes as he explains about defusing the third bomb, you can see that he's already dead inside anyway, so at least give the relatives the information they need before his paltry existence ends. The same has to go for all terrorists (loyalist & republican alike) who try to see out their meaningless lives with some imaginary & self constructed sense of normality. Give the families of your victims peace before you depart, and I can only hope that the ghosts of all the innocent victims you murderd during this awful period haunt you all to your grave.
Bruh.. it's yer man out of Jaws!
Good call
We want justice.
Justice for the 14 in Derry then
@@olliegrigg6752 they dont need justice because soilder f did nothing wrong
@@GreenCocanix they killed 14 innocent civilians, even British reports stated that and I’m not even Irish
@olliegrigg6752 The IRA got amnesty for their crimes as part of GFA. You can forget about any British troops being prosecuted for anything. That's how the amnesty works. You can't demand amnesty for the much worse atrocities of the IRA and expect British troops to be tried for Bloody Sunday.
War brings war. PEACE BRING PEACE.
There will never be peace in Ireland until the occupied Force leaves. 32TAL
Ironically with out War peace doesn’t exist
Where In Ireland is he from 🇮🇪
Why
He a dub
Dublin accent
32!!
If he was sayn he had a roll in tat bomb talkn bout it he'd be dead
Gwan
I think he's a Walter mitty
Lmao this entire comment section is a loud of 'buts' and 'ifs'. Can anyone here not appreciate that a man could soon be brought to justice for being part of a bombing that killed dozens and injured more, or do you have to go on about British oppression, and what else Britain has done in its colonial history.
Brought to justice how? Their protected under the good Friday agreement
The British tortured Ireland for 800 years. A tiny bit back is fair.
@@gerdbonk3582No. Only a thug without two braincells to rub together would say something stupid like that.
@@gerdbonk3582No.
This man is the real bomber and he is telling the truth,if you look up the drama based on the makening off the world in action but put into a drama he tells the journalist what he said in this interview and much more look it up it's very good ,
When i see old PAISLEY videos and BIBLE i can see he aroused so much HATRED..
He sounds like he’s lying tbh
Should never talk about his involvement.
Why didn't they just get the peaky blinders after us lol. Garrison went boom boom 😂😂😂
Tell Mum I said hello
@@PeterNgola woah a mum joke never heard that before. So original 😤 btw its gonna be ur cars thatll go boom boom if u fuck us over this brexit.
i like the way ye locked up 6 innocent people for 20 years, but that was blown over... typical
Bring back the black and tans
@Rowan O'Mullane
Many British have died already
for what?they were defeated by the old IRA.
Cowards
Wow I came here from that Zombie song does anyone know if this man ever faced a judge? In America this sh*t dont slide.
He was gaving authority from top rank ira army council in dublin to gave the names of the active ira unit who really done the bombs. RIP to all the victims including the Birmingham 6. 0:47 all lives lost ruined. Pack murdering bast££ds the ira. My aunt moved to Birmingham age 16 from belfast lived there all her life I have cousins there today. The ira made it hard for normal good working irish men and women to live in Birmingham after this madness. Birmingham great city great people. Sorry this had to happen to your city. Love from belfast. Now for the family's who lost loved ones and for the 6 men let's get real justice. Let the truth come out. Now I hope the police men and judge Robin he'll they knew they were jailing innocent irish men. Its crazy what happen that night in Birmingham for all involved.. sad. The unit who carried it out worked in 4s the normal ira man back in belfast wouldn't have none who done it. As they worked in units of 4 only them 4 would have known.
Brum was never the same after that night
Youre right it is a good town the Irish always loved there
Sad that innocent life was loss. This entire conflict was avoidable if the British removed themselves from NI and didn’t support Unionist oppression. IRA were backed into a corner
Very true.
100% correct
Not true. It's not like the British are aliens in the Isles. The British were there since the 1500s. You can't use violence against civilians in response to what happened 500 years ago.
XtreemMetalMan it’s a good thing that’s not what they are doin
@@ConorOdonogh it is. Blowing up pubs and markets in England cuz Cromwell took over the island in what, 1500 or 1600? Give it up. You're both white anyway.
No other country in the world would be ok with being invaded by another country and being systematically excluded and then murdered by the enlisted death squads of an invading colonizer, when will we get an apology for the millions of Irish people tortured and murdered for the crime of living next door to a bigger country with Imperial goals
No other country would up with 30 odd years of blowing up men women and children. could you see this happening in America or Australia. or any other country. letting them out of jail to do it again. there would be a total out cry but because its Northern Ireland its ok.
Bore off
Whataboutery
Yeah you are justifying slaughtering a bunch of people in brum that had ZERO to do with what you are rambling on about
@@terryjross1184 I'm Irish nationalist and think this was absolutely terrible....a horrible action
A US pattern DPM jacket and Digital DPM cap, I cant respect anyone with the inability to coordinate, call the revolutionary fashion police.
We are still waiting for the public apology for all those islamic terrorist bombings. When will be come?
ye were the fuck is isis apologe video
Our Government would prosecute British soldiers for doing their job but refused to lay a finger on self confessed terrorists
Monarchist 18 he was an Irish soldier doing his job
How come you can count them on 1 hand, whilst there have been 1000s arrested for being linked the IRA? Your government does not prosecute British soldiers for "doing their job" - brutalising and harrassing the civilian population, killing one of them then claiming they "seen a weapon". Actually, alot of Brits used to fire then shout "HALT OR I'LL SHOOT!". Still waiting on prosecutions and apologies in Ireland btw. Nice to see you took the cross of St Pat out of your fleg. Hate the Irish do you?
This man is a terrorist. A terrorist that has escaped justice, the UK and Irish Republic Governments acknowledge the IRA as a terrorist organization. Republicans always call on British Army veterans to be arrested, undoubtedly there were crimes committed by both sides but it seems easier to attack the military. Our soldiers were sent in to protect the civilians of Northern Ireland, they had no political ideas they were just sent in to do their job. The job of the IRA were to kill British soldiers and civilians right here in Britain.
My flag is the Scottish Union jack, it was designed before the act of union in 1801 which brought Ireland into our United Kingdom. I have never hated Ireland, a few of my ancestors came from Ulster to Scotland. It is the IRA I hate, they have really escaped justice. How many both North and South of the border have they murdered? Remember Irish soldier PTE Patrick Kelly murdered by Martin Mcguinness's men?
Agreed, the Brits were sent in to protect the Catholic/Nationalist/Irish community from mobs of Protestant/Loyalists/Unionists as they burnt out areas in the Falls Road, true. They were welcomed with tea and biscuits by the Irish of the North. Then the Brits got heavy handed and began raiding and smashing up houses, turning the public against them. Ive seen soldiers interviewed saying it didn't make sense. I'd have to agree with them on that.
I fully accept IRA men killed civilians, in the likes of Birmingham but you need to accept there were ALOT of unlawful killings by British authorities in my own city. Fact is the scales are tipped way too far when it comes to prosecutions. Your sayin 'how many got away' - we're sayin the same thing about the Brits (security forces) considering the amount of questionable behaviour by the police, soldiers, intel services & informants, not to forget the collusion between the RUC & Brits with the UVF and UDA. And also consider they never found a weapon on Bloody Sunday and 13 people lay dead, and the only court proceedings were in private, naming soldiers A and B etc, and didn't prosecute any of them. Thats just 1 extreme incident.
There are many many MANY smaller incidents that have affected not just the man or woman laying in the graveyard, but their families and friends. If you watch that movie 'War Machine' there's a bit in it where he asks "if we have 10 terrorists, and we kill 2, how many does that leave us?" people replied 8, but the correct answer is 20. If you look at Vietnam, Ireland, Iraq, places with insurgency and guerrilla warfare, you'll find those mathematics fairly realistic.
The Brits, RUC, MI5, Special Branch, Loyalist UDA, UVF, LVF, UFF all working hand in hand at times, resulting in even more unsolved sectarian murders. Look up Brian Nelson if you think i'm spouting propaganda, that should give you an idea of 1 of the known cases.
And no i never heard about Patrick Kelly (just looked it up) but what i do know is it's not exactly permitted to operate in the South, according to the IRA's own rules. Thats why alot of people were surpsied they killed Mountbatton across the border.
As for your fleg, i don't understand why you're proud of your Ulster heritage (although they could have been Irish who went to Scotland, or Scots who came to Ireland before returning back to Scotland from the 1600s), yet you don't fly St Pats cross. Even the Loyalists on the Shankill road keep it in, they even kept the red hand of a Gaelic chieftain, and even embrace the shamrock and harp on some Loyalist paramilitary murals and flags. If your proud to be a Scot, fly St Andrew, if you're proud to be a Brit fly the Union flag - it just seems you're being a bit petty leaving out St Pat, given you're anti IRA yet part Ulsterman.. I don't get it mate.
But by all means, take it out, Ireland never wanted to be in the Union, and invasion pre-dated the Union by about 600 years. Even when the English were Catholic we never wanted them to rule us. in 1798 an Irish rebellion was led by Protestants. Even alot of the 1916 leaders had English/Protestant parents/blood. We did however take Robert the Bruces wee brother Edward as our King, willingly. So we had a Scot as our king for a time. Ireland, Scotland and Wales are Celts who settled these islands when they thawed after the Ice Age. The English came from Normandy and Germanic areas 1000 odd years ago? I think we have more right to the land than rapists and plunderers, or even the ancestors of rapists and plunderers, given that fact.
"We have always found the Irish a bit odd. They refuse to be English." - Winston Churchill (notice how he didn't say "British")
Love u mick x
Real ira man don't talk
Maybe one time the didnt but dont forget there is a thing called the Good Friday agreement
Thats a shame you creepy IRA child killer.
And don't fuckn forget ye started tá killing First
@@ant-gn4tpWhat is it with sectarian weirdos saying "ye" online? 😂😂
both sides irish and british are equal in blame i am welsh but the english did far more harm than the irish ! so look up your history !
"insukting" so is occupying ireland
England get out of Ireland
Cillian Holly SCOTTISH protestants from SCOTLAND colonised the North of Ireland
its northern Ireland , not ireland you daft pricl; UHHHHH PART OF SAME ISLAND MUST BE IRELAND, as if mate they are culturally religiously and racially different; You are no better than an imperialist
Alex Carney fuck u no surrender the queens a bender
Ireland.....GET OUT OF ENGLAND
@@tedvicarri6153 never where in England you stupid fuck 😂
Hate the bombs not the bomber and love your enemy.
British can’t they bitter they are obsessed with Ireland and the Germans.
@@RobertK1993I know right you hardly ever hear of Irish people bringing the famine.....
Follow your own advice
newer and more effective laws to combat this crime.
What about all the Irish men & women that the British killed they you say sorry for that
There were a lot more innocent killed on our island buy the hand of your government ..... terrible times for all involved .....to the aul Vol ya should of left the past behind ya and kept Ur mouth shut !!!
Dublad32 Eire Shut the fuck up, ya numpty
Ragsy x You know it’s true that why you lashed out.
@@mafiablokes ehhh No 🤘
I've absolutely no idea what a numpty is I'm not English ....
I can just speak it 👍
"ya should of left the past behind ya"
Sounds like the 1916 rebels and their rent boys should've taken their own advice.
@@invisibleman4827 lol you have the right tag anyway.... Get u misses to mail me ive something big for her that ain't invisible 😂😂😂
Faire play Volinter Hayes
32!!
JFT21
what about the family's they the British destroyed come on what do u expect
Whataboutism argument. And the answer to your question is "NOT see civilians bombed"
@@invisibleman4827
Whataboutism😂😂😂😂
Get the f*ck out of our country ya tan
Today is the anniversary of the dublin bombing committed by loyalists backed by british state and still today is covered up by the britush government
J I M M Y S A V I L E
The Catholic Church
@@adrenalinpump7601
The orange order
I'm sure Corbyn will apologise next!
Will May? her mates helped ISIS kill our children in Manchester .
@@hannahdyson5603 think you'll find labour has links to the Manchester bomber and their organisation
G I Joe murphy
FUCK Birmingham
also another man michael Murray from Birmingham IRA was involved RIP Michael. died of a heart attack great Irish soldier.
Up the ra Brit’s out
@johnny cash UP THE RA✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
Dude the Irish will become a minority in Ireland by 2050 but you don't care because of some shit the British government did 200 years ago.
I feel for the victims in birmingham i live in brum.. but i also feel for the ex soldiers who are being prosecuted.. For me the essence of the good Friday agreement is to forget what happen before and move forward.. Drawing a line in the sand
It was the IRA loving Labour Government and the damend intertefering US plastic Irish who made the GFA one sided. Giving terrorists amnesty was a war crime to add to Blairs many other atrocity
Agreed, makes no sense to continue to prosecute people from any side. All prisoners released via g.f.a., its over.
That should have been the way to do it, to help the peace plan quickly move forward. Forgive and forget, the only way.
Of course if he were a member of the British military admitting to such a crime during "the troubles" he probably would have been arrested and charged, there would almost certainly be a feature length film made about the atrocity by a leftist British filmmaker whose name doesn't necessarily have to be Loach, a full scale public enquiry costing millions of taxpayers money to already wealthy lawyers, an apology in parliament and endless youtube videos with the comment sections below packed full of Irish Catholics banging on about British war crimes.......but no instead a man admits to playing a part in a bombing campaign and happily walks free.
Name me one Parachute member who has been jailed for Ballymurphy or Bloody Sunday? Most members of the IRA where either incarcerated or shot dead by SAS. I don't recall any member of the British army who killed civilians serving time in the Maze
@@Stargreened (a) there were TWO expensive judge led inquiries into Bloody Sunday - I don't recall anything like that concerning the victims for Hyde Park, Birmingham & Guildford pub bombings, Warrington or Enniskillen - care to explain why? Even more interesting to think that many more were killed in most of those spectacular then ever died in Londonderry - I guess Catholic lives count for more when it comes to the legal process (b) "most members of the IRA were either incarcerated or shot dead by the SAS".....where to even begin ? You probably not even aware that more British soldiers and RUC officers were killed than all the IRA deaths put together !
@@revol148 Not near enough but. A good few thousand more wouldn't even have satisfied me.
@@revol148 O.K - own up - who's been listening to New Life by Depeche Mode? LOL
@@mytoiletshitehouse O.K - own up - who's got so much time on their hands that they have to research my recent comments on youtube? P.S It does sound a tad like Depeche Mode don't you think?(Depeche Mode are a band from the 1980's - ask your grandparents if you're not sure)
Get some shebeen on Tiocfaidh
The Troubles could start again with dup coming in Coronation with the Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's mate apologises.
fredo1070 you mean May's? the DUP?
the IRA has nothing to do with Ireland
Mike smith ?
jay williams idiot
WOW it's not like I was joking or something 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
The I.R.A Southern command carried out the bombings. Watch "the year London blew up" & ye can see an unknown Chris O' Dowd play the role of an oglach (volunteer) Harry Duggan. 😂😂
Absolute shithawk.
Just like your name sake
Bua No Bas. Troid ar son na Saoirse. A Mhic na hEireann.
Let Ireland go
CalPaxin It was let go, a century ago.
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England
Northern Ireland isn't independent so how you figure?
CalPaxin Because we wish to remain part of the United Kingdom.
The Irish were let go because they wanted to, wrongly in my opinion. That simple.
Shaun Scullion Trump isnt anything for the U.S to brag about 😂
If trump is "the only good thing" in the U.S ..... Then my god thats the worst country in the world
🇮🇪 Good Job, should have left the third one 🔥😉
Stfu
@@terrorgaming459 🇮🇪🇮🇪!!!!!! 🔥🇬🇧🔥
Republic lost, good Friday agreement 👌 😂
@@jackcloth2265 😁🤷🏻♂️🇮🇪
This was a terribly unjust action but was nothing compared to the atrocities inflicted upon the Irish by the British. The black and tans made the Gestapo look like boy scouts...
'This was a terribly unjust action BUT-'
Just stop. No. This wasn't a "terribly unjust action", this was mass murder. By going "but muh 800 years" you're basically saying "I support this atrocity.
@@invisibleman4827 I'm Anglo-Irish. My family is Protestant, I am merely stating facts. I'll break it down for you. Fact 1) the Birmingham pub bombings were extremely unjust. Fact 2) the black and tans we're almost indistinguishable from the Geheimestadtspolizie (Gestapo) in their use of terror on an innocent unarmed populous in their own country. In all that I have said where-in lies the mistruth of my statements?
@@FieldMarshalRommel23 Bringing up the B&Ts in this context is to justify the bombings especially when you add a 'but' there - there's no other reason to bring them up. The bombings weren't merely 'extremely unjust', they were an atrocity, a crime against humanity, not even a million B&Ts will change that.
@@FieldMarshalRommel23 And no. The Black and Tans even at their worst were *NOWHERE NEAR* as bad as the SS. Have you ever even been to a Nazi concentration camp? No. Have I? Yes. The actions of Nazi Germany there and across Europe far outweigh *ANY* of the actions of the Black and Tans. Saying otherwise is an insult to the victims of Nazism.
@@invisibleman4827 Extremely unjust is as unjust as something can get. It's unjust in the extreme. Anyway, I don't wish to discuss semantics. If I wanted to defend the Birmingham bombings I would lay out a defense but I don't defend the indefensible. Also, the Schutstaffel and the Gestapo were separate entities.
This apology is a hell of alot more than the Irish have gotten for 100s of years of British tyranny and murder.
May he rot in hell
@@qualitycroissant8527 yeah along with Margaret thatcher.
Not really an apology when he said "No intention of hurting anybody"
ARREST HIM AS A TERRORIST NO EXCEPTIONS.
STORMY NATERO he's immune from prosecution under the good Friday agreement
You can tell he is a loon when he is wearing all military clothes to an interview. Sigh some people..
GOOD FRIDAY AGREEMENT? WELL IM AN AMERICAN AND CROSS WITH THE LIL POPE OF ROME .
THE PERSON WAS CLEARLY A KNOWN TERRORIST THEN AND LET OTHERS PAY OR HIS CRIMES THAT MAKES HIM NOT ONLY A TRADER YET A COWARD ASWELL........HE SHOULD BE HUNG FOR TREASON AND SHOT FOR COWARDNESS . IM OF ROMAN DECENT NOT BAYZINTINE SO SCREW THE GOOD FRIDAY CRAP.
STORMY NATERO l tell to your goverment stop invade and attack other countries.
WELL WERE NOT LOL, SEE ISIS IS BEING KILLED BY EVERYBODY.....NEXT WE ARE ALLIES WITH THE FSA AND YPG KURDS AND ALL NATO COUNTRIES .....WE ARE ALLIES WITH JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA AND DO BUSINESS WITH ALMOST EVERY KNOWN GOP ON EARTH.....SO WHO ARE WE INVADING EXACTLY? THE IRAQIS HAVE A GOV. THE AFGHANS HAVE A GOV. ANY QUESTIONS? LOL YEMEN? YEMEN REBELS TOOK OVER THE GOV. FORCED THERE GOV. TO FLEE TO SAUDI ARABIA SO ARE YOU GUESSING WERE DOING SOMETHING BAD BY PROTECTING THE SAUDI FAMILY OR MECCA? ARE YOU THAT LIL MINDED TO THINK THAT?.
Teann Brits abhaile!
Tá muid sa bhaile!
@@muttley8818 An bhfuil tu cinnte?
True Irishman and Freedom Fighter
You mean murderer?
No surrender the queens a bender
Tiochaidh ar lá 🇮🇪🇮🇪
STFU
Nothing to be proud of you minger
@@g.s6475 are you proud of what the hundreds of years of killings and deprivation for the Irish people?
@@Joeavfc1 didn’t know I’ve killed anyone?
@@Joeavfc1 also you do realise these bombings took place in brum which has so many irish people living here
Cold just like the brit army
UTR END BRITISH RULE 🇮🇪
UP THE RA
BRITS OUT
@domhanda Up the ra
Jeremy Corbyn: 'I commemorate all those who died fighting for a united Ireland' Nice one Jeremy, you're fit to be the British Prime Minister.
The EdBaron He is the right man for the just May a coward.
Up da RA
Blowing to bits innocent people who haven't got a clue what the fuck your conflict is about. You must be so proud.
Colin Jennings You must be ever prouder of your empire.
@@Aaronn14 OK Shinnerbot.