Minghao is the type that doesn't really cry when he is upset. So to see him trying to hold it in when Jun was hugging him my heart broke. And can we talk about how strong Jun is. He was comforting yanan and minghao when hehad to makeup his new performance. I love his personality
And this is why Jun jumped up my SVT list. He was pretty low tbh cause I never found anything I liked about him but watching this show made me realise how amazing and mature Jun can actually be and I love him af
@@94stephy94 Aye. Jun and Jeonghan are my biases, but I know Jun is definitely not an easy bias for most people. Jun's a lot more motherly than people think he is, because he has a younger brother and takes care of his peers a lot. I'm proud he got to shine here, and I'm once again reminded why I love this beautiful boy. Hope he gets more attention from Pledis too, he's always in the background...
i have always thought that Jun has that mature side even though he act like child he has that motherly type of comfort i got that feeling they got their 1st win Jun was there to taking care of the members specially Hoshi and Woozi they were crying mess cuz of overflowing emotion.. he was there smiling and taking care of members along with jeonghan and wonwoo just like here how he hugged the8 without any word just comfort cuz at that time the8 needed that rather than some words. I guess i'm just whipped for SVT members hahaha
I love Zhennan. I don't know though. He is definitely very mature for his age. His opinions are very clear and he expresses them well. But I think the others mainly held back. I think they were being cautious, they didn't want to hurt Jony J or Gong Ge and of course they didn't want to set themselves up for retaliation. The8 initially tried to not make a big deal out of it but was clearly very hurt (no amount of denial could convince anyone that he wasn't). I think Zhennan is very brave or just still too young to fear the reaction of others.
@@swaggy7506 whoever wins can pick their next partner and sometimes can't be refused, jony j didn't want to collaborate with anyone else, and the other guy followed him because he felt like they were bros
@@elenamao559 then what was the point in joining the show if they were gonna do that, 2 other artists who actually wanted to collaborate could have joined instead, what assholes.
*i love the fact that although they were doing this show as minghao and junhui and not as "seventeen's the8 and jun", they still wear their precious rings wherever they are and whatever they do*
One word to describe Jony J’s leaving is unprofessional. And Minghao was pretty matured and strong to handle this situation and Jun our angel. I’m so glad they both joined this program to have each other’s back. Zhennan this kid kept amazing me :) I love all these artists and this show.
Seriously? Like why the heck even go on the show in the first place if you only wanna do your own style of music and work with the person whose music is most similar to yours smh
For who sans that he wanted to do his own stile of music remember that the8 wanted that too and remember that a show is a show so I think that he could at least try cause what he did hurted minghao soo much and I'm thankful that jun was there for minghao So even if jony j wanted to do his own stile but he forgot that that they are all here to try
I genuinely appreciate what Jun did, didnt say anything, just straight up hugged cause I think he know that anything he says will actually make Minghao lose his shit on camera and what he did was really really kind. This is the side of Jun most people tend to forget, as silly or playful it is, when it comes to caring about his friends and members, he's the most thoughtful person. Respect for Jun ❤️ Edit: I saw this when the actual video came out but even now when Minghao sings "Im okay", my heart fucking hurts. Despite all of this, he's still reflecting what he did, acknowledges what he did wrong and what he did right, still respects those two and manages to maintain his composure. I dont know how much is actually being shown, I have a small feeling that Minghao and Jun actually talked this out but Minghao is really really such a good person.
@@kalns5360 No. I'll pretend I don't know which fandom you're coming from; please understand that we Carats don't say that kind of disrespectful nonsense about Seventeen. That doesn't fly here. [Edit: comment was deleted. It discussed relationships between Jun, Yanan, and The8 in an offensively rude and even cruel way.]
I wanna hug Jun so badly...He's such a warm man, an really angel. He has no confidence on stage too, but he keeps comforting Yanan, and then feeling lonely and getting so much pressure himself, just working too hard for the prommison with Yanan, practice after practice in a crazy way, that even hurts his throat...my heart was broken. He remain the mic's position as same as previous, just like Yanan still there... Junnie, our little sweetie, thank you for always take care of everyone's feeling. You really did so well in the performance and that situation.
Who came back here after hearing the news that JJ will be a mentor in an Idol Program? It's been a year but I still cannot forget how he mentioned that idols are not real artists and now he has the guts to be a mentor for aspiring idols?! Are we a Joke to you?! Such hypocrisy! Plus the fact that he made our precious Minghao cry?! Never forget!!!!
My eyes almost popped out when I saw him in Youth with You 2. Like are you serious and honestly he didn't look as happy as he was here so I didn't understand why he would even joined that show.
"Yes I'm an idol. Therefore I won't take the artist title and become a psycho who does art for the sake of art" ooof that burn. Zhou Zhennan is truly a force to be reckoned with. Their stage has gotta be my favourite from this episode. I have so much respect for the both of them!
I like how Zhennan, one of the youngest contestants, is more mature about all this than Jony J. Personally I don't blame gonge because when your friend leaves you feel guilty if you dont. Zhennan is right. Some people nowadays use bad manners as their personality. It is not a personality it is just disrespectful
Agree! Gosh~ how embarrassing it is for Jony J~ imagine having an 18 years old being more mature and reasonable about it while a 28 years old being all immature and only wanting his ways~
@@TheJen2 agreed!! While I do find a weird taste that gong ge for leaving and what words he used, I do think he would stay if like you said, he felt bad his friend was leaving. While Johnny j may be a great artist, as a person, he isn't and sadly don't have respect for. What peed me off the most is you could SEE how FLIPPEN PROUD Johnny j looked when he saw gong ge followed suit. As if...he wanted that to happen, idk how to word it but seeing that made me just feel blah. It's upsetting seeing how both longfei and minghao had indeed talked to them both but yet...this happened. It broke me seeing minghao be so upset and feeling guilty when he did nothing wrong. That's how the show works. Bless the young ones on this show because at least some of them know how to be more mature then the elders. As I like to say, age does not mean they are more smarter or mature
1000% Zhou Zhennan really is one of the best artists I never knew I needed in my life. I also love how they made the whole episode about perseverance, respect and professionalism, among other things, and put a lot of emphasis on it too. They could have chosen to edit the most 'direct' bits out, but they didn't. Glad they were not afraid to showcase those two's actions for what they were, unprofessional and disrespectful.
I am crying watching Jun comfort Yanan, first because the boy can't see his own value and second, because Junhui is such a sweet person and such a good friend, this boy is so precious 😭♥️
lol i'm watching this almost two years later and i'm still SO MAD about how they treated minghao like that. that's literally such a slap in the face to him for people that he's admired for so long to immaturely treat him like that. it says so much ab their attitude and tenacity. to have started in the entertainment industry at such a young age, minghao carries himself so well in situations like these. he's such a talented performer and an even kinder, calm, and empathetic person. you can just see him holding it in, laughing nervously and his eyes were glossing over. i'm glad jun was there to be able to comfort him, and props to him for also comforting yanan and continuing the performance by himself. gong ge and jony j lost an opportunity by not working with minghao and leaving the show. AND THE FACT THAT JONY J LITERALLY TOLD HIM IN THE ROOM THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE SELFISH AND WILL LET MINGHAO PICK GONG GE like what a dick move ugh it makes me genuinely mad.
54:42 it's always the same. Minghao jumps straight up and rushes to Jun's side when he knows Jun is tense and stressing out. Minghao always helps Jun with his performance while Jun in return is always there comforting him and giving strength. I seriously love those two.
Wen Junhui is seriously such a special person. The way he comforted Minghao with just a simple hug, how he continuously comforted Yanan by saying he'd take the burden too, telling him to rely on him even if Yanan couldn't perform that week, asking him to share all of his worries so they can face it together, it was extremely heartwarming. Junhui is such a wonderful and happy person that we're so used to seeing his beaming smile but then he shows you that he really is just a boy who loves singing and doesn't have much confidence in himself and tbh that takes a lot of strength to finally just tear down your walls and let people see that you are in fact very stressed and scared. The way he felt so determined to get into the next round just so Yanan could come back and make a stage they could remember together made me emotional. He felt so strongly about performing with Yanan again that it was his drive to do well and he got 70 points all by himself which is honestly an achievement in itself. As for Longfei and Jinghao, man I didn't know I'd bawl my eyes out I thought they were so amazing, Longfei's stages were one of my favourites (aside from jun's yall know im biased) and tencent likes to play with our feelings dude- ok ill stop now 😂😂😂
Well, one got eliminated, while the other just left on their own, so that's the difference. With Jony J and Geng Ge's situation, they were shocked, disappointed, and they didn't didn't expect the two would do that. Most of all, Jony J and Geng Ge doesn't deserve their tears. For Long Fei, he got eliminated, and he worked really hard throughout, so that's why. And they got close with him too, but he had to leave all of sudden, I would cry too :( I actually like him :(
Zhou Zhennan: "Jony J, if you can't even endure this yet claim you're so dedicated towards music... I can't see your dedication at all." Yes. Yes. Yes. The kid said it all. I think everyone feels the whole situation was unecessary and that both, Jony J and Gong Ge's attitute was childish. Jony J says he cares about music and would like to get his work more recognized and to reach out to more people, but when he gets the opportunity to do so on a platform that's going to be seen by millions of people, he bails out just cause he can't play with his friend anymore. Minghao was someone who admired him and expressed that many times, but he just couldn't give a single fuck to that. Also, I admit that I kind of expected a dick move from Jony J, but when Gong Ge decided to leave as well I felt really disappointed. I mean, the guy literally said that if Jony J wasn't around he'd like to work with Minghao or Zhennan. But when Jony leaves, he follows right after like a little puppy. Really, It would've hurt less if they'd slapped Minghao on the face. Like Jiacheng said, I felt so sorry for him because he keeps blaming himself. That's really unfortunate. :/ :/ :/
I actually don't blame Gong Ge for his leaving. What he said to the contestants, I can see that if it wasn't for or because of Jony J, he wouldn't leave Minghao nor the show. Like what he said, he finally became friends with Jony J, and Jony J just immaturely rejected Long Fei by quitting the show, it made him felt guilty for that so that's why he chose to leave as well. As you can see on the interview and how he talked with Minghao, I can see that Gong Ge actually wanted to work with him and expand his experience with different people and other styles. But what Jony J did is what you called "immature and childish".
Jony j is just insecure that he won't make any good music without gong ge thats it....and the8's statement about USING FORCE AND THAT HE ALREADY HAVE ANSWER frighten him...bcoz he is no one ....
Geovana Valaski If u being nice then Jony j have to do music with u if anybody being nice then He have to do music with u that s absolutely nonsense Those who love their idols I can understand but if u don’t even make music u don’t even know music u don’t even know what musician really care about don’t judge other people s decision because u don’t have right to judge jony j or any other do ur self first alright Be a legit audience if u wanna judge do ur self better first instead of talking who’s right and wrong
I'm amazed at the fact that an 18 year old boy is more intellectual and professional than someone in his early 30's... Zhennan,😇 I'm in love with this boy...
Aw poor baby Minghao. He confessed his admiration towards gong ge music and Jony J rap, but why they need to act so selfish like that? Minghao already holding back his desire, his opinion there and here. Hey but look at the bright side, Minghao know the true side of his gege. :)
At least Gong Ge was more respectful and even said if JJ wasn't there, he would have collab'd with the others. And offered help to Minghao outside the show. JJ straight up chuckles/laughs at Minghao when he tries to take it back and say "you guys can collab, I'll pick someone else". Like, wtf, how do you crush someone like that, knowing they look up to you?? i hate seeing our poor innocent, kind, and sweet Minghao hurt like that. Damn.
Throughout this whole episode you can really see how much they care for one another. when jun hugged minghao you could tell it helped and you could tell jun was very concerned. Also when jun was struggling Minghao rushed to help him and make him calm down. It's a beautiful friendship.
I really feel Yanan in the aspect that he thinks he's not good enough and is a waste of space. I felt that many times. Which is why I appreciate Jun so SOOO much here because we really DO need friends that will lift us up like this
@@ieh2845 I think they are both born in 1989. So they both around 28 to 29 years old. Gong Ge mentioned when he was born when Yanan asked him in the first episode.
through the entire show... I have become a fan now of Jun's personality and attitude... He is the best amongst alll .... He is strong person.... Even he is hurting inside he will give strength to others... I just wanna hug him and say.. It's Okay...
I learned that Gong ge isn't really an official artist yet, he is pretty young and isn't used to TVshow and to be with other artists. So I was surprise because he was doing honestly pretty well, knowing that the staff didn't inform him about what the emission was going to be about. But Jony J... he is a real disappointement. This guy is a real artist, he releases songs, he knows how the industry works, but he was unable to act like a real artist. All of them here are doing their best, ready to try differents and new things, but Jony J have been out there"boo boo, that's not my thing, i don't want to do it". every. single. episode. And the worst part being not wanting to work with anyone than Gong Ge because he didn't want to experiment. He lost all my respect, both as an artist and human being. And Gong Ge was totally influenced by his negativity, he was probably so lost not knowing what to do. It doesn't change the fact that he gave up and that's disappointing, but I'm less salty, and at least he tried.
mmm he's not that young. in fact, gong ge is one of the oldest of the bunch, age wise. However, his personality is that of a hermit + introvert; someone who's never been exposed to the "idol" limelight. as in ep1, it was stated that he is mainly a producer in the background, someone who doesn't perform often. so experience wise in performing and all, he's definitely super new, but as a creator of trendy music, i feel like he honestly had that in the fucking bag and should've walked out with it. i definitely agree with the last parts about jony j and influencing gong ge. i think that gong ge found his comfort zone in jony j because, like him, jony j didn't really care for the fan service missions and they just really wanted to make really awesome music together. and so to gong ge, not only did it feel like betrayal (if he didn't leave with jony j) but also, to be leaving your comfort zone as an introvert is like having your favorite toy as a child snatched away from you. he's also a very band-wagony type person where if someone leads him, he will follow, unless its in music. seriously though, if jony j was more open minded, this would've blown over perfectly fine. *MIC DROP ON U JONY J*
CTGOt&ku Thanks for telling, I don't know him a lot, I know Jony J way better, the few informations I have about Gong Ge is what my friend told to me ^^' But well we all agree about the fact that Jony J was really not "positive"
Lmao looks like Jony J ain’t a professional artist then 🤷🏻♀️ Being an artist means being flexible and learning how to work with others to create better music and not just sticking to one person...whelp he prob lost everyone’s respect after this ep
I can't believe that Jony J allowed Gong Ge to leave the show for him. He didn't even try and stop him. I am sorry but that is really selfish and entitled. You are willing to allow someone to leave a whole show because of you, seriously! He could have easily said don't leave the show because of me, do what you want to do, don't be influenced by my decision. Here I was thinking that after Jony J had left and was completely out of sight, like completely that is when Gong Ge decided to leave, but no, Jony J was right there and could have stopped him. Gong Ge shouldn't have followed him, he just shouln't have. What also annoyed me is that Jony J had this smirk and smile the whole time. I was like why are you smiling for? this is not a smiling situation. I am glad that Zhennan had the bravery to speak his mind about the situation and I am glad that he didn't shy away from speaking the truth.
always hope I do agree he could have stopped gong ge to begin with minghao had a talk with him and was sincerely asked his concerns . He is just a fucking annoying kind of an artist . I mean how could he be this cruel minghao admire him so much had genuine talk with him and confessed how he look up to him as an artist . It's like a slap on minghao face that he kept rejecting him waaaa I just so so sad for minghao. And still minghao respect him as an artist where else would you find a man like minghao . Where else ?
At the beginning I was like "they are nice and caring but when they both left, it broke my heart. You can clearly see that The8 blames himself and the day after when the were talking about it you could clearly see that he was fighting back his tears. I was tearing up by watching this.
Jun constantly encouraging Yanan when he was so depressive Affirming to Yanan in clear words that the performance is important but his partner's wellbeing is more important Deciding to leave Yanan's mic on the stage to support him Just the overall positive emotional support he brought up by letting Yanan knows that it's not a burden to let all his feelings out than keeping it in. OMG Jun carrying over Seventeen team-affirming bonding and spirit is like... I can see why... Seventeen has stayed so strong now. Singularly, he is already so powerful because he is so sensitive and caring. WTF Jun, I never got to see this when Jun is with Seventeen.
@@zainabhaideraligai2992 Cause he got some form of anxiety from feeling inadequate and low self esteem. (He explained that it could be because before he joined this show, he was always working together with his members in a kpop group, so maybe soloing a show like this was too overwhelming for him. It got so bad to a point where it affected his mental health and he couldnt bring himself to keep filming or be Jun's partner.)
That was the idol show Minghao was the dance instructor right? Cause I kinda have the feeling that his salty and low key jealous of Hao and everything Hao has in his young age.
@@idontknowyou2621 Nah Jony J is famous in china that's why I think he's having a "big" head towards idols. He maybe envied them and this show he think is just too low for him and he can't take it that these youngs are more famous than him internationally. So unprofessional. Tsk3.
Yanan’s part truly saddened me. He is such a hardworking person and you can tell Jun really cares for him. I know we won’t get that much insight into Yanan’s situation or mental state as it is his personal problems, but now that he is taking break from Pentagon activities as well I am very worried about him. I really hope he finds himself in a better place and he has so many people willing to support him in whatever he goes through. Yanan has always had a timid personality (though with close friends he is usually or of his shell) and even though us fans will never truly know all of him, I can tell he is reluctant to open up to others about his feelings. The industry they work in can be so tough on anyone’s mental state with the stress and pressure to live up to everyone’s expectations. I hope Yanan becomes his happy bright self again and that he can lean on others and not feel like he is burdening them. Jun told him that they are all worried about him and will be waiting for him if he returns. Everyone loves you Yanan!
@@suviturunen1020 no yanan left pentagon because of his mental state it had nothing to do with hyuna and e'dawn yanan is also back now promoting with pentagon with their new song SHA LA LA
i need a friend that supports me like jun does to minghao. like minghao told that it was okay and whatever but jun kept hugging him cause he knew it he needed it. also the way he comforted yanan telling it wasnt his fault. hes such a kind hearted, loving person. he wants the best for everyone. jun and minghao really know each others so well like at 54:40 minghao knew what was going on and went to help his brother
I really like how Zhou Zhennan is so effortlessly cool. But you can tell he's not putting on an act bc he also has this cute, down to earth, even a bit childish side that's really charming
6:04 Minghoa's eyes were teary...Minghao don't cry easily,this makes me really sad.... Those 2 leaving together claiming that they're an ARTIST should never ever consider themselves being one,they're just so childish and immature to play this game....👿👿
One thing is certain, Minghao and Jun are true badass and professional artists. It's so impressive how they deal with stress and how empathic they are with others.
Very emotional episode. Zhennan has really good insight for someone so young. It brought tears to my eyes to see Yanan suffering so much, then I was really touched by how gentle and sweet Jun was to Yanan. Pentagon's Uni's really respect Jun. He was left in a difficult situation but he never made Yanan feel any worse for it, he supported him.
Where's Yannan why Jun sing solo im sorry to ask but ididnt catch up of what happened i was surprise when he did solo i missed up that part bcuz the sub is so fast.
@@johnzkromano4222 I think Yanan is suffering emotionally and mentally so he needed to take a short break from the show. So Jun decided to do this performance alone.
Honestly I don’t understand Jony J, all of them came here to break out of there comfort zones and try something new instead of their own style. Minghao was insisting to do everything his way if it meant he could make music with him. But he didn’t want anyone else except one person, so he just left. Zhennen was right when he said he can’t see his dedication for music, bcuz if he really was dedicated, he would’ve moved out of his comfort zones, and gave all those people who wanted to collab with him a chance. Seeing Minghao and Longfei sit alone, while everyone else was working together reminding me of myself, and how alone I used to be before I got into kpop.
Zhennan was speaking facts talking about how people think being rude is a personality and be niche just for the sake of being niche- we love an educated king
Zhenan spilled the TEA.He was talking FACTS ONLY.Jun was about to snappppppp.I love him so much.Actually i could relate to him so muuuch.About his stress like i saod the same things earlier today that he said here.Also Yanan,sweetie,i love youuuuuu.
Minerva Jean Lupin same. i watched for minghao and jun, and i liked yanan i just probably wouldnt have watched if it was only him that i knew. now i really love zhennan, and i like samuel, eric and jiacheng.
Look, I'm a native English speaker (from Australia). Just saying..... Samuel's english isn't exactly clear or articulate. It's either that, or he has difficulty expressing himself spontaneously. It came as a surprise to me that English is his first language. Maybe he is trying to simplify what he is saying for his audience????
I teared up when Junhui came to Minghao and just hugged him. Because if I were on Minghao's place I would've cried. Their friendship is just too pure Jony J was very unprofessional.
I am amazed at how insightful Zhou Zhennan is and how straightforward in his opinions considering the pressure to be neutral by the idol industry. I agreed with every single one of his comments and also love how playful he is with Samuel they are a great pair. Junhao also demonstrated such strength of character in this episode he not only comforted Yanan without making him feel guilty but put together a great performance when he was drowning in insecurity. The problem with KPOP groups that contain a large number of members is that so few really get to shine and this program has defiantly shown Minghao and Junhao to be verstaile artists and wonderful people with great character.
Jun comforting minghao😭❤ Jun comforting yanan😭❤ Jun comforting Fu Longfie and Zhang Jinghao because they got eliminated 😭💔2:01:06 2:02:31-2:02:38 Jun comforting Jiacheng and zhennan because they feel sorry😭💔 2:02:55 Jun is playful but his very caring towards people❤ *WE ALL NEED A FRIEND LIKE HIM😭*
i feel upset for long fei and jinghao....why they need to eliminate...i dont think i can continue watching 7,8,9 ep...since long fei on ep 10 ill watch it!!.
okay but that ' cant stop the feeling ' performance made me smile. they all looked like they were havin fun and they looked so happy akdjdj my heart. uwu
I NEED TO SAY THIS JUN IS SUCH AN AMAZING ARTIST .. MY RESPECT FOR JUN AS INCREASED 100X MORE..i cried every time jun was on screen imagining how hard it was for him and how he recovered ..ITs not easy to do what he did ..
Everyone already said it, but Jun is so strong. He was suffering, he is anxious, he was feeling lost, but still he has the energy to take care of his friends. He was looking so strong while talking to Yanan and as soon as he was left alone, he crumbled, and he was visibly bad until Minghao tried to help, then he immediatly became confident. He looks like the kind of person that won't show how hurt he is, and just keep going, smiling even when he's crying inside. I'm glad he has his whole Seventeen family taking care of him.
There were many shit things about this episode, but also so many good things: We got a glimpse of the real Junhei, whose compassion and kindness for others knows no bounds. Despite his maknae-esque behavior, there is an emotional maturity within him that's always looking out for his fellow friends and artists. Even though Yanan did not participate in this episode, I think it was for the best. He needed time to be with himself, to recenter and remotivate himself. It's hard to keep a learning mindset when you're surrounded by people not necessarily more talented, but more experienced than yourself, so I'm hoping that this break served him well to find that self-confidence again. We got to see Minghao come to life in the face of adversity; The raw disappointment and frustration he must have felt manifested into creative confidence and I'm so proud of him! We got to see Jiacheng and Eric teach each other and grow together as a pair, and breathe life into an old song in a way that I really like! And we got to share in the friendships of Longfei & Jinghao and Samuel & Zhennan. The way music brought them together and strengthened their relationships, the first pair for more than 10 years and the second anew, is obviously really special; I'm truly happy that Samuel found not only a fellow artist, but a companion and confidante in Zhennan. They suit each other so well and I have a feeling they'll be friends long after this program finishes. So yeah, the first bit and last bits were tough, but I'm actually really happy for everyone. Regardless of what happened and what's coming next, they've all grown as people and artists and we should celebrate that!
Zhennan is such a savage but he does it with class and I think it is because he is so well spoken. I think that this show allowed me to discover wonderful musicians.
Okay, literally no one is talking about Longfei. I just want to talk about how much I appreciate his personality and his passion and perseverance towards doing what he loves. I hope all the people who watch this will recognize his genuineness and support him, he really deserves it
ok but guys longfei, minghao deserves better and every artist ever in chao yin zhan ji. no one should feel excluded and im glad yanan and the rest of them is better. that’s all i gotta say before watching. asdfghjkl. p.s / as a person who watched this show just for samuel, yanan and svt, i got really attached to the other artists and appreciate them more. im pretty sure i wasn’t the only one who look for their music after watching the show heh. and hi longfei eric zhennan xiao wu victor jinghao is really good looking and talented. p.s.s / after watching this episode, this is by far my fav episode out of all 6 episodes. and its very sad to see the one who got eliminated, would really look forward to any of his music. # / spoiler free
yes man i feel like the need to stan zhou zhennan and jiacheng, but idk how since you know china's regulations on the internet is kinda different with korea's. i really like jiacheng's personality its just very good and bubbly and so positive
jee l well in each nation, there are stereotypes as well. but these people aside the ones who left are really nice and like you said, especially jiacheng. i believe all of them need support in all ways possible because we are all still the same, humans.
They are all so talented, and tho i believe that what jj did was really rude, i hope they stop calling him names and posting hate comments on his social media. Minghao has been respectful and understand and he turned this into something that can drive and motivate him so I really hate all the animosity towards jony j and gong ge. And the other artists were really trying to change how we view idols and artists so let's keep supporting them and loving them. I mean, maybe this is for the better because we now see that our dear Minghao is paired with an awesome artist and they have put out quality performance in this episode.
Gurl you speaking my heart, I only came for sam and zhenan. Got interested in svt music and pretty much everyone😢 someone give me fu longfei insta/twitter or any other sns account fam
No one's talking about Zhennan and Samuel. They're so cute while practing and doing weird things. Well they're the young ones in this contest so they can act their age together. Aahhh❤
the way you can feel the atmosphere get happier after jony j and gong ge left. they always created such a gloomy atmosphere whenever they were in a room with the other guys. if they were still here and had to sing cant stop the feeling i dont think they would do it
when I saw Minghao choose his song alone, I felt really sad and angry, but Jun did everything a friend would do, when I saw him I got so excited because I knew Minghao needed his hug. Anyway Zhennan said things really right for his age.
that scene where jun tried to comfort yanan absolutely killed me.. i get where jun was coming from and that he meant well but if his insecurities are something yanan dealt with for a long time, it just won't work like that. he won't believe the warm words coming from the others.. i also feel so so bad for jun bc he must've felt bad for not being able to help yanan. my poor boys... svt's china line has to deal with so much emotional shit on that show, i hope they'll be alright
Isn’t it still good to hear that though? Obviously it won’t change his mind just like that, but maybe it can help him in the future. Because when he realizes that he doesn’t have to be insecure he knows that there are others that think so too, so maybe he won’t doubt it as much as he otherwise would if nobody had told him that. It probably is annoying to hear though but I believe it is good to hear anyway. Am I wrong about this? It’s just a theory but I’m not really good with handling others emotions so I could be very wrong
I'm soo glad Jun ang Minghao were in this together and they could support each other. Jun you are such a kind and good person!!! Minghao it's not your fault but of those who come to a show and don't have manners let alone the gut to challenge themselves.
Imo Zhennan is a really admirable person. Like, he's so young (only one year older than me), yet he seems to know exactly what he wants to do. He has his own ideas and very strong and sometimes unique opinions. You can tell he spends a lot of time thinking and reflecting on himself (?) He's also very determined and passionate about music. At only 18 years he already has a very interesting style and an amazing stage presence. Not to mention that he's good at rapping, singing, dancing and even playing the piano a bit. He obviously can be pretty stubborn at times, he's what we call a Dickschädel in Germany. But he realised he had been a bit too greedy and changed his behaviour. I feel like he's really mature for his age (my mom says he thinks and sounds like a wise old man who's trapped in the body of a child lmao) Sorry for this long ass paragraph sdgfdjd I just really like Zhou Zhennan
This ep had me crying! Okay, first of all, you could really see what type of people they all are. Minghao was so apologetic and guilt tripped himself for someone else's actions. That was so sad to watch. He has a lot of empathy. Did you see how he ran to Jun to calm him down? Bless. Jun is such a caring, supportive, and loyal friend. He has displayed this time after time with Minghao and Yanan. He would not leave Yanan's side and comforted him dearly. Yanan is very considerate to a point where he dimisses himself as equally important. He cared so much about Jun and honestly thought he was a burden. His head was bowed down and he avoided eye contact. Poor baby. Now onto Longfei, he will be missed. I actually loved him. I love all of them. They all shine in their own way. There were a lot of beautiful and heartbreaking moments in this ep. A lot of laughs and a lot of tears!---also shoutout to Zhennan for keeping it real and calling out the two.
I don’t get this stupidity really even the8 and Jun separated even though they’re in the same group, know each other better went through more together. Jony and Gong met on a show that’s made for you to collaborate with DIFFERENT talented artists but think they’re on their honeymoon and want to stick together till the end. So unprofessional and stupid
Yeah it’s stupid but I think it’s better that they separated, I know this is late but if not Jun and Minghao would have shown what they know, instead of Hao trying rap and new stuff and Jun focusing on singing more
Okay vent for Minghao time- SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT FINISHED THE EP 3:33 it was at THIS moment, he knew, he knew all the way in his lovely soul that those two were going to leave together and he really didn't want to hear it. 4:18 makes me believe that Gong Ge truly was the more open minded one. He said he was willing to make things work just not on CYZJ. Yes, at surface level and given the tension, that's still super dickish and a back handed way of rejecting someone. At the same time, I believe he really meant it. So a small part of my heart makes me think that one day they could collab properly. XU MINGHAO IS A GODDAMN GEM. He even tried to fulfill their wish as they were leaving. He would've accepted their presence instead of vying for their collaboration. His reflection time was so heartbreaking because even he wasn't clear on how to feel. When they were in the mission room, he looked like he'd been crying his eyes out. Or losing sleep. That pain was so real for him and I could see he wanted to speak up when everyone was voicing their opinions. His expression was really like "it can't be helped, it's not their fault, I can get through this, please stop". When he was stuck on choosing music... Ah, Minghao, it was like his loneliness resonated in the air around him.. That being said, I am so freaking happy he has Victor now. They suit each other well and he is still improving his skills as a self-producing idol. I admire Xu Minghao so much because he has such a pure heart and a strong will.
also, can we talk about how our jun was being so caring towards minghao and yanan, he is a total sweetheart everyone is sleeping on him OPEN YOUR EYES Y'ALL EAT JIN AND OPEN YOUR EYES.
So glad Zhennan spoke his honest opinion. I thought everyone was going to brush it off so it was great to hear someone speak up. I definitely agree when he said he endures parts of his job he doesn't like just so he can do music and questioned Jony J and Gong ge's dedication. While also respecting that it was their decision. Praise to Longfei too for being open
How is no one talking about the group performance at the beginning? I was so impressed with Victor's rap and the cute little Samuel and The8 collab dance xD Btw, thanks for subbing!
JUN IS SO PRECIOUS OMG! He is such a sweetheart. I cried when he comforted both Minghao and Yanan. He lifted them up so much. He knew Minghao was gonna break if he said anything so he just hugged him. We all need that sometimes. And he comforted Yanan in the sweetest way possible. He dealt with his problems alone and didn’t complain one bit. He was so so stressed, but he still stayed strong. I’m so proud of him and I love him so much.
I'm really glad Zhennan said what he did in front of everyone. He's absolutely right and even though Minghao was trying to take the high road and probably trying to retain his respect for those guys that he had looked up to, I think it was good for him to hear to relieve the burden of wanting to blame himself. I especially connected to what Longfei said though - even before now I was trying to figure out exactly how I felt about Jony J and Gong Ge, and it was exactly that. You have respect for their talent but not them as people. Talent is all well and good, and it can get you far but to be honest what's the point of revering a talented person if the only other thing they are is a giant shit head? That's a problem with a lot of artists and society's habit of idolizing them and looking past glaring flaws just makes it worse.
Man!minghao tried to make a team with him just ONCE so many times,he worded it nicely,in a mature manner,that he won't be able to collab outside this show as he wants, even for that reasons sake or to respect him as a fan who likes jony so much, it was way too much. Way too much. Its been so many times,Minghao is so polite and mature, i just feel bad that no one except jun seem to understand him.damn, Minghao hold his emotions back so hard, it broke my heart. damn.
Samuel is scary he always got 1st place not that im complaining ,i actually love it❤❤❤ I really like samuel x nannan collab ,always bomb and also their relationship is so cute 😭❤❤
Yeah his really cute if you see him in person but if perform he transform a lot and make me wow booom he killed the stage specially if he's with zhennan wow its like a concert though.
I honestly feel like Gong ge was influenced by Jony J. He didn’t utter a word about leaving and was open to the collaboration, unlike Jony J who was so adamant. It’s a show, it’ll test you in difficult situations. You can’t have a comfortable life. If you want that then collaborate outside of the show. Gong ge is a newbie to shows and maybe that’s why he went with the flow. Jony J truly disrespected the artists. Look at Jony J smirk when Gong ge decided to leave too. Like why are you being so obnoxious about it.
I agree his smirk was fucking annoying . And fucking really really sad that minghao did all he can just to be with him what a waste of admiration to an artist who doesn't know or unacceptable about collaboration . The8 must have felt rejected on a highest level.
Jun and Hao are angels. Now I understand why some carats told me not to watch this show. But I don't regret watching because I was able to watch Jun and Hao without the other members in a show.
@@karlaglorioso if they really want to know more about them they really should watch this show. it has nothing to do with afraid of getting hurt bcs only by watching this show they know the struggle they went through in this show.
why would a carat say not to watch this show? in the opposite, i recommend to all carats to watch this. it’s thanks to this show that Jun went up my bias list. every carat has to know more about this side of Jun
@@padiiiii OMG YES LOUDER!!!! I hate it when some carats have this preconception of jun being "childish" or whatever they have on their mind when they have never seen this side of him yet because all he wanted to do was to spread happiness instead of negativity. He always wanted to make sure to make the members and carats smile by making them laugh. He never showed us his weakness and even during the last caratland he was holding up his tears after reading his mom letters.
Jun has such great stage presence and fierce expressions that you would never guess he lacked confidence. He always does well, he has such a sweet unique voice, i hope he gains more confidence
Jun's performance wasn't sad at all but why am I crying?? Maybe I just felt proud to him because although he is alone he still manage to sing perfectly. I felt proud! Really!!
Cried hard bc of Yanan and Jun, then laughed and smiled bc of the kids Sammy and Nannan and then cried again bc of the elimination... such an emotional rollercoaster
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Minghao is the type that doesn't really cry when he is upset. So to see him trying to hold it in when Jun was hugging him my heart broke. And can we talk about how strong Jun is. He was comforting yanan and minghao when hehad to makeup his new performance. I love his personality
And this is why Jun jumped up my SVT list. He was pretty low tbh cause I never found anything I liked about him but watching this show made me realise how amazing and mature Jun can actually be and I love him af
@@94stephy94 Aye. Jun and Jeonghan are my biases, but I know Jun is definitely not an easy bias for most people. Jun's a lot more motherly than people think he is, because he has a younger brother and takes care of his peers a lot. I'm proud he got to shine here, and I'm once again reminded why I love this beautiful boy. Hope he gets more attention from Pledis too, he's always in the background...
i have always thought that Jun has that mature side even though he act like child he has that motherly type of comfort
i got that feeling they got their 1st win Jun was there to taking care of the members specially Hoshi and Woozi they were crying mess cuz of overflowing emotion.. he was there smiling and taking care of members along with jeonghan and wonwoo just like here how he hugged the8 without any word just comfort cuz at that time the8 needed that rather than some words.
I guess i'm just whipped for SVT members hahaha
My heart broke the moment I saw Minghao trying his best not to cry
Valerie C yeah jun is the best
Even Zhennan who is still a child is more mature than them°•°
Ikr
Even samuel
i also agree with zhennan
I love Zhennan. I don't know though. He is definitely very mature for his age. His opinions are very clear and he expresses them well. But I think the others mainly held back. I think they were being cautious, they didn't want to hurt Jony J or Gong Ge and of course they didn't want to set themselves up for retaliation. The8 initially tried to not make a big deal out of it but was clearly very hurt (no amount of denial could convince anyone that he wasn't). I think Zhennan is very brave or just still too young to fear the reaction of others.
me to, 100%
Jun hugging minghao cuz he knows he needs it + minghao dropping everything to go help jun = real friendship
@Panaiota Bwetwayise 6:00 and 54:42
Jun was nervous and mess up a lot during rehearsals but the8 comforted him. But after that he do the same to the8
Can someone tell me what rules did Jony J and the other guy did not agree with?
@@swaggy7506 whoever wins can pick their next partner and sometimes can't be refused, jony j didn't want to collaborate with anyone else, and the other guy followed him because he felt like they were bros
@@elenamao559 then what was the point in joining the show if they were gonna do that, 2 other artists who actually wanted to collaborate could have joined instead, what assholes.
*i love the fact that although they were doing this show as minghao and junhui and not as "seventeen's the8 and jun", they still wear their precious rings wherever they are and whatever they do*
My carat heart just melted and now I’m a puddle of tears. Seventeen is forever.
it's a promise ring after all. after being together for so many years, they never take it off unless it's very necessary.
Hoshi said that if they removed their rings when they have schedule outside of group,they should leave the group.😂😂😂
One word to describe Jony J’s leaving is unprofessional. And Minghao was pretty matured and strong to handle this situation and Jun our angel. I’m so glad they both joined this program to have each other’s back. Zhennan this kid kept amazing me :) I love all these artists and this show.
After they left all the members become cheerful
Yessss!! I agree completely. Finally someone who understands.
He’s been a real downer the whole time. Literally a walking manifestation of negative energy.
Seriously? Like why the heck even go on the show in the first place if you only wanna do your own style of music and work with the person whose music is most similar to yours smh
For who sans that he wanted to do his own stile of music remember that the8 wanted that too and remember that a show is a show so I think that he could at least try cause what he did hurted minghao soo much and I'm thankful that jun was there for minghao
So even if jony j wanted to do his own stile but he forgot that that they are all here to try
I genuinely appreciate what Jun did, didnt say anything, just straight up hugged cause I think he know that anything he says will actually make Minghao lose his shit on camera and what he did was really really kind. This is the side of Jun most people tend to forget, as silly or playful it is, when it comes to caring about his friends and members, he's the most thoughtful person. Respect for Jun ❤️
Edit: I saw this when the actual video came out but even now when Minghao sings "Im okay", my heart fucking hurts. Despite all of this, he's still reflecting what he did, acknowledges what he did wrong and what he did right, still respects those two and manages to maintain his composure. I dont know how much is actually being shown, I have a small feeling that Minghao and Jun actually talked this out but Minghao is really really such a good person.
I to agree with this point that minghao is really a good and sweet person.
Okay but Jun comforted both the8 and Yanan when they were feeling down and I can’t help but cry over that fact. He’s so caring and kind honestly
SuperKitKat and he put aside his feeling first and bear it alone. I cantt 😭😭😭😭
Instant bias even though I dont stan seventeen fully yet lol
@@kalns5360 No. I'll pretend I don't know which fandom you're coming from; please understand that we Carats don't say that kind of disrespectful nonsense about Seventeen. That doesn't fly here.
[Edit: comment was deleted. It discussed relationships between Jun, Yanan, and The8 in an offensively rude and even cruel way.]
SuperKitKat ikr
@@puffdaddy2233 your right what we see is not fully there personal attitude... We must understand openly.... I like how jun comforted the 8..
I wanna hug Jun so badly...He's such a warm man, an really angel.
He has no confidence on stage too, but he keeps comforting Yanan, and then feeling lonely and getting so much pressure himself, just working too hard for the prommison with Yanan, practice after practice in a crazy way, that even hurts his throat...my heart was broken.
He remain the mic's position as same as previous, just like Yanan still there...
Junnie, our little sweetie, thank you for always take care of everyone's feeling. You really did so well in the performance and that situation.
Nien-Chieh Tsai he too sweet!!!
We loved him!!!
This man seriously deserve more recognization for everything
Who came back here after hearing the news that JJ will be a mentor in an Idol Program? It's been a year but I still cannot forget how he mentioned that idols are not real artists and now he has the guts to be a mentor for aspiring idols?! Are we a Joke to you?! Such hypocrisy! Plus the fact that he made our precious Minghao cry?! Never forget!!!!
Even he also hurt Zhou Zennan.
My eyes almost popped out when I saw him in Youth with You 2. Like are you serious and honestly he didn't look as happy as he was here so I didn't understand why he would even joined that show.
@@dumbomb money 🤷🏽♀️
"Yes I'm an idol. Therefore I won't take the artist title and become a psycho who does art for the sake of art" ooof that burn. Zhou Zhennan is truly a force to be reckoned with. Their stage has gotta be my favourite from this episode. I have so much respect for the both of them!
I like how Zhennan, one of the youngest contestants, is more mature about all this than Jony J. Personally I don't blame gonge because when your friend leaves you feel guilty if you dont. Zhennan is right. Some people nowadays use bad manners as their personality. It is not a personality it is just disrespectful
Agree! Gosh~ how embarrassing it is for Jony J~ imagine having an 18 years old being more mature and reasonable about it while a 28 years old being all immature and only wanting his ways~
@@TheJen2 agreed!! While I do find a weird taste that gong ge for leaving and what words he used, I do think he would stay if like you said, he felt bad his friend was leaving. While Johnny j may be a great artist, as a person, he isn't and sadly don't have respect for. What peed me off the most is you could SEE how FLIPPEN PROUD Johnny j looked when he saw gong ge followed suit. As if...he wanted that to happen, idk how to word it but seeing that made me just feel blah.
It's upsetting seeing how both longfei and minghao had indeed talked to them both but yet...this happened. It broke me seeing minghao be so upset and feeling guilty when he did nothing wrong. That's how the show works. Bless the young ones on this show because at least some of them know how to be more mature then the elders. As I like to say, age does not mean they are more smarter or mature
zhennan is literally one of the youngest and most mature idols ever! what he said was about jony j was so true tbhh
Omg ++ so childish and UNprofessional
1000% Zhou Zhennan really is one of the best artists I never knew I needed in my life.
I also love how they made the whole episode about perseverance, respect and professionalism, among other things, and put a lot of emphasis on it too.
They could have chosen to edit the most 'direct' bits out, but they didn't. Glad they were not afraid to showcase those two's actions for what they were, unprofessional and disrespectful.
Zhennan was so right about Jony J, he was just being childish and dropping because he wasn't with Gong Ge was just petty of him...
They are being unprofessional 🤭
I'M WITH U BRUH
exactly wtf, that was so childish and so so unprofessional, you can't just fucking leave because you're not allowed to work with someone
ikr, they're closed minded boomers 🙄
I am crying watching Jun comfort Yanan, first because the boy can't see his own value and second, because Junhui is such a sweet person and such a good friend, this boy is so precious 😭♥️
Ana Luiza me too Jun is Angel
lol i'm watching this almost two years later and i'm still SO MAD about how they treated minghao like that. that's literally such a slap in the face to him for people that he's admired for so long to immaturely treat him like that. it says so much ab their attitude and tenacity. to have started in the entertainment industry at such a young age, minghao carries himself so well in situations like these. he's such a talented performer and an even kinder, calm, and empathetic person. you can just see him holding it in, laughing nervously and his eyes were glossing over. i'm glad jun was there to be able to comfort him, and props to him for also comforting yanan and continuing the performance by himself. gong ge and jony j lost an opportunity by not working with minghao and leaving the show. AND THE FACT THAT JONY J LITERALLY TOLD HIM IN THE ROOM THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE SELFISH AND WILL LET MINGHAO PICK GONG GE like what a dick move ugh it makes me genuinely mad.
54:42 it's always the same. Minghao jumps straight up and rushes to Jun's side when he knows Jun is tense and stressing out. Minghao always helps Jun with his performance while Jun in return is always there comforting him and giving strength. I seriously love those two.
Wen Junhui is seriously such a special person. The way he comforted Minghao with just a simple hug, how he continuously comforted Yanan by saying he'd take the burden too, telling him to rely on him even if Yanan couldn't perform that week, asking him to share all of his worries so they can face it together, it was extremely heartwarming. Junhui is such a wonderful and happy person that we're so used to seeing his beaming smile but then he shows you that he really is just a boy who loves singing and doesn't have much confidence in himself and tbh that takes a lot of strength to finally just tear down your walls and let people see that you are in fact very stressed and scared.
The way he felt so determined to get into the next round just so Yanan could come back and make a stage they could remember together made me emotional. He felt so strongly about performing with Yanan again that it was his drive to do well and he got 70 points all by himself which is honestly an achievement in itself.
As for Longfei and Jinghao, man I didn't know I'd bawl my eyes out I thought they were so amazing, Longfei's stages were one of my favourites (aside from jun's yall know im biased) and tencent likes to play with our feelings dude-
ok ill stop now 😂😂😂
I can't find that part 😂
Why yanan did not perform with jun
I love the fact that they cried when longfei left and they didn’t cry when gong g and jony k left 😂
Jony J and Gong Ge don't deserve their tears .__.
They are disrespectful
They weren't worth the tears.
Well, one got eliminated, while the other just left on their own, so that's the difference. With Jony J and Geng Ge's situation, they were shocked, disappointed, and they didn't didn't expect the two would do that. Most of all, Jony J and Geng Ge doesn't deserve their tears. For Long Fei, he got eliminated, and he worked really hard throughout, so that's why. And they got close with him too, but he had to leave all of sudden, I would cry too :( I actually like him :(
"If you want to harvest tears, you have to plant love" - Friedrich Schiller
Zhou Zhennan: "Jony J, if you can't even endure this yet claim you're so dedicated towards music... I can't see your dedication at all."
Yes. Yes. Yes. The kid said it all. I think everyone feels the whole situation was unecessary and that both, Jony J and Gong Ge's attitute was childish. Jony J says he cares about music and would like to get his work more recognized and to reach out to more people, but when he gets the opportunity to do so on a platform that's going to be seen by millions of people, he bails out just cause he can't play with his friend anymore. Minghao was someone who admired him and expressed that many times, but he just couldn't give a single fuck to that.
Also, I admit that I kind of expected a dick move from Jony J, but when Gong Ge decided to leave as well I felt really disappointed. I mean, the guy literally said that if Jony J wasn't around he'd like to work with Minghao or Zhennan. But when Jony leaves, he follows right after like a little puppy. Really, It would've hurt less if they'd slapped Minghao on the face. Like Jiacheng said, I felt so sorry for him because he keeps blaming himself.
That's really unfortunate. :/ :/ :/
I actually don't blame Gong Ge for his leaving. What he said to the contestants, I can see that if it wasn't for or because of Jony J, he wouldn't leave Minghao nor the show. Like what he said, he finally became friends with Jony J, and Jony J just immaturely rejected Long Fei by quitting the show, it made him felt guilty for that so that's why he chose to leave as well. As you can see on the interview and how he talked with Minghao, I can see that Gong Ge actually wanted to work with him and expand his experience with different people and other styles. But what Jony J did is what you called "immature and childish".
Jony j is just insecure that he won't make any good music without gong ge thats it....and the8's statement about USING FORCE AND THAT HE ALREADY HAVE ANSWER frighten him...bcoz he is no one ....
Jony j is a bad influence
gosss i start hate everyone with that name(jony)
Geovana Valaski If u being nice then Jony j have to do music with u if anybody being nice then He have to do music with u that s absolutely nonsense
Those who love their idols I can understand but if u don’t even make music u don’t even know music u don’t even know what musician really care about don’t judge other people s decision because u don’t have right to judge jony j or any other do ur self first alright
Be a legit audience if u wanna judge do ur self better first instead of talking who’s right and wrong
I'm amazed at the fact that an 18 year old boy is more intellectual and professional than someone in his early 30's...
Zhennan,😇 I'm in love with this boy...
Aw poor baby Minghao.
He confessed his admiration towards gong ge music and Jony J rap, but why they need to act so selfish like that?
Minghao already holding back his desire, his opinion there and here.
Hey but look at the bright side, Minghao know the true side of his gege. :)
At least Gong Ge was more respectful and even said if JJ wasn't there, he would have collab'd with the others. And offered help to Minghao outside the show. JJ straight up chuckles/laughs at Minghao when he tries to take it back and say "you guys can collab, I'll pick someone else". Like, wtf, how do you crush someone like that, knowing they look up to you?? i hate seeing our poor innocent, kind, and sweet Minghao hurt like that. Damn.
Throughout this whole episode you can really see how much they care for one another. when jun hugged minghao you could tell it helped and you could tell jun was very concerned. Also when jun was struggling Minghao rushed to help him and make him calm down. It's a beautiful friendship.
I really feel Yanan in the aspect that he thinks he's not good enough and is a waste of space. I felt that many times. Which is why I appreciate Jun so SOOO much here because we really DO need friends that will lift us up like this
I really like zhenan opinion on Jony J , that's need to be said. How can you be so mature at your age zhennan ,😍
Ttt
@sanatrbl over the age of thirty,i guess around 33 as Gong Ge is older than him,but Gong Ge himself doesn't look older than 35
@@ieh2845 I think they are both born in 1989. So they both around 28 to 29 years old.
Gong Ge mentioned when he was born when Yanan asked him in the first episode.
Min Sushi from i know he is born in 2000 so maybe 18 right ???
erni yuliawati Yes that’s right I wrote this comment before the part he said he was born in 2000
Stanning Seventeen will never be a regret of mine just looking at THE8 and Jun's personality. They have amazing character
through the entire show... I have become a fan now of Jun's personality and attitude... He is the best amongst alll ....
He is strong person.... Even he is hurting inside he will give strength to others... I just wanna hug him and say.. It's Okay...
I learned that Gong ge isn't really an official artist yet, he is pretty young and isn't used to TVshow and to be with other artists. So I was surprise because he was doing honestly pretty well, knowing that the staff didn't inform him about what the emission was going to be about.
But Jony J... he is a real disappointement. This guy is a real artist, he releases songs, he knows how the industry works, but he was unable to act like a real artist. All of them here are doing their best, ready to try differents and new things, but Jony J have been out there"boo boo, that's not my thing, i don't want to do it". every. single. episode.
And the worst part being not wanting to work with anyone than Gong Ge because he didn't want to experiment.
He lost all my respect, both as an artist and human being.
And Gong Ge was totally influenced by his negativity, he was probably so lost not knowing what to do. It doesn't change the fact that he gave up and that's disappointing, but I'm less salty, and at least he tried.
Can't agree more 👍👍👍
mmm he's not that young. in fact, gong ge is one of the oldest of the bunch, age wise. However, his personality is that of a hermit + introvert; someone who's never been exposed to the "idol" limelight. as in ep1, it was stated that he is mainly a producer in the background, someone who doesn't perform often. so experience wise in performing and all, he's definitely super new, but as a creator of trendy music, i feel like he honestly had that in the fucking bag and should've walked out with it.
i definitely agree with the last parts about jony j and influencing gong ge. i think that gong ge found his comfort zone in jony j because, like him, jony j didn't really care for the fan service missions and they just really wanted to make really awesome music together. and so to gong ge, not only did it feel like betrayal (if he didn't leave with jony j) but also, to be leaving your comfort zone as an introvert is like having your favorite toy as a child snatched away from you. he's also a very band-wagony type person where if someone leads him, he will follow, unless its in music.
seriously though, if jony j was more open minded, this would've blown over perfectly fine. *MIC DROP ON U JONY J*
CTGOt&ku Thanks for telling, I don't know him a lot, I know Jony J way better, the few informations I have about Gong Ge is what my friend told to me ^^'
But well we all agree about the fact that Jony J was really not "positive"
Lmao looks like Jony J ain’t a professional artist then 🤷🏻♀️ Being an artist means being flexible and learning how to work with others to create better music and not just sticking to one person...whelp he prob lost everyone’s respect after this ep
I can't believe that Jony J allowed Gong Ge to leave the show for him. He didn't even try and stop him. I am sorry but that is really selfish and entitled. You are willing to allow someone to leave a whole show because of you, seriously! He could have easily said don't leave the show because of me, do what you want to do, don't be influenced by my decision. Here I was thinking that after Jony J had left and was completely out of sight, like completely that is when Gong Ge decided to leave, but no, Jony J was right there and could have stopped him. Gong Ge shouldn't have followed him, he just shouln't have. What also annoyed me is that Jony J had this smirk and smile the whole time. I was like why are you smiling for? this is not a smiling situation.
I am glad that Zhennan had the bravery to speak his mind about the situation and I am glad that he didn't shy away from speaking the truth.
always hope I do agree he could have stopped gong ge to begin with minghao had a talk with him and was sincerely asked his concerns . He is just a fucking annoying kind of an artist . I mean how could he be this cruel minghao admire him so much had genuine talk with him and confessed how he look up to him as an artist . It's like a slap on minghao face that he kept rejecting him waaaa I just so so sad for minghao. And still minghao respect him as an artist where else would you find a man like minghao . Where else ?
At the beginning I was like "they are nice and caring but when they both left, it broke my heart. You can clearly see that The8 blames himself and the day after when the were talking about it you could clearly see that he was fighting back his tears. I was tearing up by watching this.
can someone give me the time stamp for when that happened?
@@hobism start from 1:33
Arifatul Noor Aina alright tysm
The fact that Junhui still wanted the mic there fo Yanan.... :(
for*
And when he looked at it during his performance
When
ain syafiah; uh idk it’s been a year,,,, I’m sure if you skim through the video you should find it
Jun constantly encouraging Yanan when he was so depressive
Affirming to Yanan in clear words that the performance is important but his partner's wellbeing is more important
Deciding to leave Yanan's mic on the stage to support him
Just the overall positive emotional support he brought up by letting Yanan knows that it's not a burden to let all his feelings out than keeping it in.
OMG Jun carrying over Seventeen team-affirming bonding and spirit is like... I can see why... Seventeen has stayed so strong now. Singularly, he is already so powerful because he is so sensitive and caring. WTF Jun, I never got to see this when Jun is with Seventeen.
This is probably a side only the members get to see, no wonder SVT run the 'Jun fan club' lol they find eveything he does cute and funny.
Why yanan left tho?
@@zainabhaideraligai2992 Cause he got some form of anxiety from feeling inadequate and low self esteem. (He explained that it could be because before he joined this show, he was always working together with his members in a kpop group, so maybe soloing a show like this was too overwhelming for him. It got so bad to a point where it affected his mental health and he couldnt bring himself to keep filming or be Jun's partner.)
@@TA-mr3pethey are actually all rude to Jun
@@hyunjiniret87shut up what are u talking about? 😏
Apparently, that Jony J wants to be a judge on Idol Producer China?? Which is ironically a program for aspiring Idols.
Such a hypocrite.
That was the idol show Minghao was the dance instructor right? Cause I kinda have the feeling that his salty and low key jealous of Hao and everything Hao has in his young age.
@@alymacchiato2534 ouh yeah? He the one who refuse the chance. Imagine if he agree with the8 at first myb more ppl will know him
@@idontknowyou2621 Nah Jony J is famous in china that's why I think he's having a "big" head towards idols. He maybe envied them and this show he think is just too low for him and he can't take it that these youngs are more famous than him internationally. So unprofessional. Tsk3.
He actually became the rap mentor on youth with you season 2 on the app iqui
@@uilywt5214 Yes I watched it first before this The Collaboration.
Yanan’s part truly saddened me. He is such a hardworking person and you can tell Jun really cares for him. I know we won’t get that much insight into Yanan’s situation or mental state as it is his personal problems, but now that he is taking break from Pentagon activities as well I am very worried about him.
I really hope he finds himself in a better place and he has so many people willing to support him in whatever he goes through. Yanan has always had a timid personality (though with close friends he is usually or of his shell) and even though us fans will never truly know all of him, I can tell he is reluctant to open up to others about his feelings. The industry they work in can be so tough on anyone’s mental state with the stress and pressure to live up to everyone’s expectations. I hope Yanan becomes his happy bright self again and that he can lean on others and not feel like he is burdening them. Jun told him that they are all worried about him and will be waiting for him if he returns. Everyone loves you Yanan!
I think it was because e'dawns dating controversy with hyuna. And e'dawn left Pentagon
@@suviturunen1020 no yanan left pentagon because of his mental state it had nothing to do with hyuna and e'dawn yanan is also back now promoting with pentagon with their new song SHA LA LA
@@smilylaugh_0 Okay I didn't know
but now he’s sick again :(
@@gracesohn9837 and now cube won't let him back :((
i need a friend that supports me like jun does to minghao. like minghao told that it was okay and whatever but jun kept hugging him cause he knew it he needed it.
also the way he comforted yanan telling it wasnt his fault. hes such a kind hearted, loving person. he wants the best for everyone.
jun and minghao really know each others so well like at 54:40 minghao knew what was going on and went to help his brother
zhennan...i love this kid so much. absolutely agree on what he said.
I really like how Zhou Zhennan is so effortlessly cool. But you can tell he's not putting on an act bc he also has this cute, down to earth, even a bit childish side that's really charming
"Compared to the show, you are more important"
"Dont worry, i can carry through alone"
Brb crying.
since no one is talking about jinghao and longfei :
*THEIR BOND IS SO DAMN PRECIOUS AND THEIR STAGE GOT ME TEARING UP*
you cute YESS JFKDISK
*wait*.. Is that Ungjae on you dp?
After liking and agreeing with your comment I had to look again.
Anyways, hope you have a good day IF💛.
Annahi Zaragoza YESSS HES MY ULT :') uwu you too have a good day sweetie
They were surprisingly my favorite stage!
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT . YOU MADE MY DAY.. THANK YOU
im crying i never knew i needed jun and yanan together this much
10:02 samuel being every international fans mood
True!
Well, for the international fans who can't understand the language without subs.
Me every time I watched vida without subtitles
Me in physic quantum class
6:04 Minghoa's eyes were teary...Minghao don't cry easily,this makes me really sad.... Those 2 leaving together claiming that they're an ARTIST should never ever consider themselves being one,they're just so childish and immature to play this game....👿👿
I hate seeing people make the cry im begging to all carats to beat the man make them cry .. I hope they beat gong ge
@@mimi-gz1vl Even if I'm an aroha I'm gonna join carats to beat them. They are so unprofessional.
@@chuchubiaroha8823 I luv astro 😭 an aroha too and yup I still get sad when I see this cuz minghao and everyone else didn't deserve this
@@queeneheart7630 I'm a carat now too🙂 And I still want to beat them😂
@@chuchubiaroha8823 lmfao this conversation had me cackling in between tears! And count me in!!
One thing is certain, Minghao and Jun are true badass and professional artists. It's so impressive how they deal with stress and how empathic they are with others.
Samuel and zhennan are like the it pair..... whenever they are together they always seem to get first place
Yeah true i think all the performance of samuel is always firts place but i like there bond of zhue nannan is really good i love them both
Very emotional episode. Zhennan has really good insight for someone so young. It brought tears to my eyes to see Yanan suffering so much, then I was really touched by how gentle and sweet Jun was to Yanan. Pentagon's Uni's really respect Jun. He was left in a difficult situation but he never made Yanan feel any worse for it, he supported him.
Where's Yannan why Jun sing solo im sorry to ask but ididnt catch up of what happened i was surprise when he did solo i missed up that part bcuz the sub is so fast.
@@johnzkromano4222 I think Yanan is suffering emotionally and mentally so he needed to take a short break from the show. So Jun decided to do this performance alone.
Yes and hence Jun left the mic stand there. As he promised Yanan that he would make through this round for Yanan to join again
i love when samuel and zhennan are together because zhennans voice gets like 9385792039448 times deeper when he speaks english
Honestly I don’t understand Jony J, all of them came here to break out of there comfort zones and try something new instead of their own style. Minghao was insisting to do everything his way if it meant he could make music with him. But he didn’t want anyone else except one person, so he just left. Zhennen was right when he said he can’t see his dedication for music, bcuz if he really was dedicated, he would’ve moved out of his comfort zones, and gave all those people who wanted to collab with him a chance. Seeing Minghao and Longfei sit alone, while everyone else was working together reminding me of myself, and how alone I used to be before I got into kpop.
the fact that jony j looked so happy when gong ge decided to leave the competition with him is so annoying
EXACTLY
@@tblmoon TWINEM
he is so unprofessional jony j sucks
JJ thought he look so cool, like wtf?
ikr, stoopid
Jun has the kindest heart. I just want to give every single one of them a hug.
And the teaser just broke my heart again.
Zhennan was speaking facts talking about how people think being rude is a personality and be niche just for the sake of being niche- we love an educated king
Zhenan spilled the TEA.He was talking FACTS ONLY.Jun was about to snappppppp.I love him so much.Actually i could relate to him so muuuch.About his stress like i saod the same things earlier today that he said here.Also Yanan,sweetie,i love youuuuuu.
zhennan: "recently, a lot of people think being rude is having a personality" is this shade i sense ;)
Zhennan's personality is top tier. He's smart and mature, determined, capable of learning from mistakes. He's really a good person.
Time stamp please...
I think I've become Zhennan's fan...just the way he treats his partners with respect and his thoughts on his passions...
zhennan is so mature for his age omg what a woke king
I started watching the show for jun and minghao, but I actually love Zhennan so much now
Minerva Jean Lupin same. i watched for minghao and jun, and i liked yanan i just probably wouldnt have watched if it was only him that i knew. now i really love zhennan, and i like samuel, eric and jiacheng.
@@vernonIover omg thats exactly me now i love them them all thanks to minghao and jun well except jony j ofc
Zhennan has earned my respect for being so mature despite his young age.
This moment when you start watching the show bc of minghao and Jun but then zhennan literally messes with your heart so much like wtf❤️😂
Actually, I found out this show because of Xu minghao and jun but decided to actually watch it after watching Chuang 2019
@@cynicalglasses3069 same
SAME I FELL IN LOVE WITH ZHENNAN- except I also came for Samuel because I love him-
the fact that zhennan also looks like my ult bias aaaaa
Samuel: *speaking in english*
no one:
not even CYZJ SUBS:
me: *looks at the subtitles*
DUDE SAME AHAHAHAHAHA
😂 omg sAmE! I’m just so used to it after watching too many different shows where I don’t understand sh*t
Same, but I'm not a native English speaker so it's just hard to me if I'm concentrated enough especially if it's 3AM
Me too 😅😅
Look, I'm a native English speaker (from Australia). Just saying..... Samuel's english isn't exactly clear or articulate. It's either that, or he has difficulty expressing himself spontaneously. It came as a surprise to me that English is his first language. Maybe he is trying to simplify what he is saying for his audience????
I teared up when Junhui came to Minghao and just hugged him. Because if I were on Minghao's place I would've cried. Their friendship is just too pure
Jony J was very unprofessional.
I am amazed at how insightful Zhou Zhennan is and how straightforward in his opinions considering the pressure to be neutral by the idol industry. I agreed with every single one of his comments and also love how playful he is with Samuel they are a great pair. Junhao also demonstrated such strength of character in this episode he not only comforted Yanan without making him feel guilty but put together a great performance when he was drowning in insecurity. The problem with KPOP groups that contain a large number of members is that so few really get to shine and this program has defiantly shown Minghao and Junhao to be verstaile artists and wonderful people with great character.
Jun comforting minghao😭❤
Jun comforting yanan😭❤
Jun comforting Fu Longfie and Zhang Jinghao because they got eliminated 😭💔2:01:06
2:02:31-2:02:38
Jun comforting Jiacheng and zhennan because they feel sorry😭💔
2:02:55
Jun is playful but his very caring towards people❤
*WE ALL NEED A FRIEND LIKE HIM😭*
Yesss ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
We really need but next time please dont reveal who will be eleminated TT
i feel upset for long fei and jinghao....why they need to eliminate...i dont think i can continue watching 7,8,9 ep...since long fei on ep 10 ill watch it!!.
Thx for the spoil
Jun is like husband material
okay but that ' cant stop the feeling ' performance made me smile. they all looked like they were havin fun and they looked so happy akdjdj my heart. uwu
1 0 3 0 4 I know!!!! That was the best thing in this mess of an episode
Samee It was soo nice..
I NEED TO SAY THIS JUN IS SUCH AN AMAZING ARTIST .. MY RESPECT FOR JUN AS INCREASED 100X MORE..i cried every time jun was on screen imagining how hard it was for him and how he recovered ..ITs not easy to do what he did ..
Everyone already said it, but Jun is so strong. He was suffering, he is anxious, he was feeling lost, but still he has the energy to take care of his friends.
He was looking so strong while talking to Yanan and as soon as he was left alone, he crumbled, and he was visibly bad until Minghao tried to help, then he immediatly became confident. He looks like the kind of person that won't show how hurt he is, and just keep going, smiling even when he's crying inside.
I'm glad he has his whole Seventeen family taking care of him.
There were many shit things about this episode, but also so many good things: We got a glimpse of the real Junhei, whose compassion and kindness for others knows no bounds. Despite his maknae-esque behavior, there is an emotional maturity within him that's always looking out for his fellow friends and artists. Even though Yanan did not participate in this episode, I think it was for the best. He needed time to be with himself, to recenter and remotivate himself. It's hard to keep a learning mindset when you're surrounded by people not necessarily more talented, but more experienced than yourself, so I'm hoping that this break served him well to find that self-confidence again. We got to see Minghao come to life in the face of adversity; The raw disappointment and frustration he must have felt manifested into creative confidence and I'm so proud of him! We got to see Jiacheng and Eric teach each other and grow together as a pair, and breathe life into an old song in a way that I really like! And we got to share in the friendships of Longfei & Jinghao and Samuel & Zhennan. The way music brought them together and strengthened their relationships, the first pair for more than 10 years and the second anew, is obviously really special; I'm truly happy that Samuel found not only a fellow artist, but a companion and confidante in Zhennan. They suit each other so well and I have a feeling they'll be friends long after this program finishes. So yeah, the first bit and last bits were tough, but I'm actually really happy for everyone. Regardless of what happened and what's coming next, they've all grown as people and artists and we should celebrate that!
Lauren Miller i think Hongseok(YGMNET M&M) will relate to Yanan.
This comment encompasses absolute everything I felt this episode...
This lost tho
I impress by Zhennan words to Jony J.. Even he's young but his words is more matured than Jony J
*can we please give junhui a standing ovation that boy truly deserves it.*
YESSSS 👏👏👏🙌👑
Yes! 👏👏👏👏👏
Zhennan is such a savage but he does it with class and I think it is because he is so well spoken. I think that this show allowed me to discover wonderful musicians.
Okay, literally no one is talking about Longfei. I just want to talk about how much I appreciate his personality and his passion and perseverance towards doing what he loves. I hope all the people who watch this will recognize his genuineness and support him, he really deserves it
*sammy and zhennan are absolutely my favorite duo they both are very young yet so mature and talented*
It makes me sad because when jun was talking to yanan he said that minghao reads to over his stress. It’s been shown that he reads a lot lately.
But as well, Ming Ming said that he reads to calm himself down as well as maintain a healthy lifestyle so that he doesn't push himself too much
ok but guys longfei, minghao deserves better and every artist ever in chao yin zhan ji. no one should feel excluded and im glad yanan and the rest of them is better. that’s all i gotta say before watching. asdfghjkl.
p.s / as a person who watched this show just for samuel, yanan and svt, i got really attached to the other artists and appreciate them more. im pretty sure i wasn’t the only one who look for their music after watching the show heh. and hi longfei eric zhennan xiao wu victor jinghao is really good looking and talented.
p.s.s / after watching this episode, this is by far my fav episode out of all 6 episodes. and its very sad to see the one who got eliminated, would really look forward to any of his music. # / spoiler free
yes man i feel like the need to stan zhou zhennan and jiacheng, but idk how since you know china's regulations on the internet is kinda different with korea's.
i really like jiacheng's personality its just very good and bubbly and so positive
jee l well in each nation, there are stereotypes as well. but these people aside the ones who left are really nice and like you said, especially jiacheng. i believe all of them need support in all ways possible because we are all still the same, humans.
They are all so talented, and tho i believe that what jj did was really rude, i hope they stop calling him names and posting hate comments on his social media. Minghao has been respectful and understand and he turned this into something that can drive and motivate him so I really hate all the animosity towards jony j and gong ge. And the other artists were really trying to change how we view idols and artists so let's keep supporting them and loving them.
I mean, maybe this is for the better because we now see that our dear Minghao is paired with an awesome artist and they have put out quality performance in this episode.
Gurl you speaking my heart, I only came for sam and zhenan. Got interested in svt music and pretty much everyone😢 someone give me fu longfei insta/twitter or any other sns account fam
I totally agree with you girl. I also watching this show bcuz of jun, the8 and samuel but now I think Im gonna all of them except those two.
No one's talking about Zhennan and Samuel. They're so cute while practing and doing weird things. Well they're the young ones in this contest so they can act their age together. Aahhh❤
the way you can feel the atmosphere get happier after jony j and gong ge left. they always created such a gloomy atmosphere whenever they were in a room with the other guys. if they were still here and had to sing cant stop the feeling i dont think they would do it
junhui is always comforting others, but someone just needs to comfort this boy as well. he deserves the world and more
when I saw Minghao choose his song alone, I felt really sad and angry, but Jun did everything a friend would do, when I saw him I got so excited because I knew Minghao needed his hug.
Anyway Zhennan said things really right for his age.
that scene where jun tried to comfort yanan absolutely killed me.. i get where jun was coming from and that he meant well but if his insecurities are something yanan dealt with for a long time, it just won't work like that. he won't believe the warm words coming from the others.. i also feel so so bad for jun bc he must've felt bad for not being able to help yanan.
my poor boys... svt's china line has to deal with so much emotional shit on that show, i hope they'll be alright
Isn’t it still good to hear that though? Obviously it won’t change his mind just like that, but maybe it can help him in the future. Because when he realizes that he doesn’t have to be insecure he knows that there are others that think so too, so maybe he won’t doubt it as much as he otherwise would if nobody had told him that. It probably is annoying to hear though but I believe it is good to hear anyway. Am I wrong about this? It’s just a theory but I’m not really good with handling others emotions so I could be very wrong
I'm soo glad Jun ang Minghao were in this together and they could support each other. Jun you are such a kind and good person!!! Minghao it's not your fault but of those who come to a show and don't have manners let alone the gut to challenge themselves.
Imo Zhennan is a really admirable person.
Like, he's so young (only one year older than me), yet he seems to know exactly what he wants to do. He has his own ideas and very strong and sometimes unique opinions. You can tell he spends a lot of time thinking and reflecting on himself (?)
He's also very determined and passionate about music. At only 18 years he already has a very interesting style and an amazing stage presence. Not to mention that he's good at rapping, singing, dancing and even playing the piano a bit.
He obviously can be pretty stubborn at times, he's what we call a Dickschädel in Germany. But he realised he had been a bit too greedy and changed his behaviour. I feel like he's really mature for his age (my mom says he thinks and sounds like a wise old man who's trapped in the body of a child lmao)
Sorry for this long ass paragraph sdgfdjd I just really like Zhou Zhennan
Dickschädel 😂 gute Art dass auszudrücken 😉
I actually liked how you worded it out for our boy Nannan 🙂.
This ep had me crying! Okay, first of all, you could really see what type of people they all are. Minghao was so apologetic and guilt tripped himself for someone else's actions. That was so sad to watch. He has a lot of empathy. Did you see how he ran to Jun to calm him down? Bless. Jun is such a caring, supportive, and loyal friend. He has displayed this time after time with Minghao and Yanan. He would not leave Yanan's side and comforted him dearly. Yanan is very considerate to a point where he dimisses himself as equally important. He cared so much about Jun and honestly thought he was a burden. His head was bowed down and he avoided eye contact. Poor baby. Now onto Longfei, he will be missed. I actually loved him. I love all of them. They all shine in their own way. There were a lot of beautiful and heartbreaking moments in this ep. A lot of laughs and a lot of tears!---also shoutout to Zhennan for keeping it real and calling out the two.
again this is really not fair ... my baby wen junhui worked really really hard. he deserved a better rank.. pls dear panelist notice his talent 😭
Ikr I was like I swear if you eliminate him now... Cause I would be so heartbroken too if I couldn't fulfill my promise 😭😭
I know but i think in general all perform are really good ..
Zhou Zhennan and Samuel are an amazing duo, I love them so much😍
Samuel yawning and Zhou Zhennan being surprised by is absolutely cute😍
Jun's solo stage was incredible, I'm so impressed. That's my second favorite performance from this whole show so far, after the MY I stage!
I don’t get this stupidity really even the8 and Jun separated even though they’re in the same group, know each other better went through more together. Jony and Gong met on a show that’s made for you to collaborate with DIFFERENT talented artists but think they’re on their honeymoon and want to stick together till the end. So unprofessional and stupid
PERIOD
EXACTLY THEYRE BOTH SO DUMB ESPECIALLY JONY J
Yeah it’s stupid but I think it’s better that they separated, I know this is late but if not Jun and Minghao would have shown what they know, instead of Hao trying rap and new stuff and Jun focusing on singing more
a bit of unprofessionalism,, tsk
I donno jony J this stupid.... that is why i felt like i dislike his personality on youth with you....i only now watch this
Okay vent for Minghao time- SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT FINISHED THE EP
3:33 it was at THIS moment, he knew, he knew all the way in his lovely soul that those two were going to leave together and he really didn't want to hear it.
4:18 makes me believe that Gong Ge truly was the more open minded one. He said he was willing to make things work just not on CYZJ. Yes, at surface level and given the tension, that's still super dickish and a back handed way of rejecting someone. At the same time, I believe he really meant it. So a small part of my heart makes me think that one day they could collab properly.
XU MINGHAO IS A GODDAMN GEM. He even tried to fulfill their wish as they were leaving. He would've accepted their presence instead of vying for their collaboration.
His reflection time was so heartbreaking because even he wasn't clear on how to feel. When they were in the mission room, he looked like he'd been crying his eyes out. Or losing sleep. That pain was so real for him and I could see he wanted to speak up when everyone was voicing their opinions. His expression was really like "it can't be helped, it's not their fault, I can get through this, please stop".
When he was stuck on choosing music... Ah, Minghao, it was like his loneliness resonated in the air around him..
That being said, I am so freaking happy he has Victor now. They suit each other well and he is still improving his skills as a self-producing idol.
I admire Xu Minghao so much because he has such a pure heart and a strong will.
also, can we talk about how our jun was being so caring towards minghao and yanan, he is a total sweetheart everyone is sleeping on him OPEN YOUR EYES Y'ALL EAT JIN AND OPEN YOUR EYES.
samuel and zhennan's friendship is the purest thing ever i'm shedding tears
So glad Zhennan spoke his honest opinion. I thought everyone was going to brush it off so it was great to hear someone speak up. I definitely agree when he said he endures parts of his job he doesn't like just so he can do music and questioned Jony J and Gong ge's dedication. While also respecting that it was their decision. Praise to Longfei too for being open
7:55 seeing Minghao blames himself and still tell himself that it's okay really breaks my heart
How is no one talking about the group performance at the beginning? I was so impressed with Victor's rap and the cute little Samuel and The8 collab dance xD
Btw, thanks for subbing!
Yes, it was a beautiful performance!
JUN IS SO PRECIOUS OMG! He is such a sweetheart. I cried when he comforted both Minghao and Yanan. He lifted them up so much. He knew Minghao was gonna break if he said anything so he just hugged him. We all need that sometimes. And he comforted Yanan in the sweetest way possible. He dealt with his problems alone and didn’t complain one bit. He was so so stressed, but he still stayed strong. I’m so proud of him and I love him so much.
Zhennan said all that needed to be said tbh. Jony J can go he doesn't deserve this show
Minghao isnt usually the kind of person who cries when they're upset, but seeing him hold back tears in this episode is breaking me:,)
I'm really glad Zhennan said what he did in front of everyone. He's absolutely right and even though Minghao was trying to take the high road and probably trying to retain his respect for those guys that he had looked up to, I think it was good for him to hear to relieve the burden of wanting to blame himself.
I especially connected to what Longfei said though - even before now I was trying to figure out exactly how I felt about Jony J and Gong Ge, and it was exactly that. You have respect for their talent but not them as people. Talent is all well and good, and it can get you far but to be honest what's the point of revering a talented person if the only other thing they are is a giant shit head?
That's a problem with a lot of artists and society's habit of idolizing them and looking past glaring flaws just makes it worse.
Man!minghao tried to make a team with him just ONCE so many times,he worded it nicely,in a mature manner,that he won't be able to collab outside this show as he wants, even for that reasons sake or to respect him as a fan who likes jony so much, it was way too much. Way too much. Its been so many times,Minghao is so polite and mature, i just feel bad that no one except jun seem to understand him.damn, Minghao hold his emotions back so hard, it broke my heart. damn.
Samuel is scary he always got 1st place not that im complaining ,i actually love it❤❤❤
I really like samuel x nannan collab ,always bomb and also their relationship is so cute 😭❤❤
Because he has a huge fan base in china plus he's very talented. :),
Yeah his really cute if you see him in person but if perform he transform a lot and make me wow booom he killed the stage specially if he's with zhennan wow its like a concert though.
I honestly feel like Gong ge was influenced by Jony J. He didn’t utter a word about leaving and was open to the collaboration, unlike Jony J who was so adamant. It’s a show, it’ll test you in difficult situations. You can’t have a comfortable life. If you want that then collaborate outside of the show. Gong ge is a newbie to shows and maybe that’s why he went with the flow. Jony J truly disrespected the artists. Look at Jony J smirk when Gong ge decided to leave too. Like why are you being so obnoxious about it.
Vaidehi Mishra i agree!
I agree his smirk was fucking annoying . And fucking really really sad that minghao did all he can just to be with him what a waste of admiration to an artist who doesn't know or unacceptable about collaboration . The8 must have felt rejected on a highest level.
Jun is wearing an earpiece with seventeen's logo on it I'm SobBinG-
59:18
Minghao too uwu
Jun and Hao are angels. Now I understand why some carats told me not to watch this show. But I don't regret watching because I was able to watch Jun and Hao without the other members in a show.
If someone told u not to watch this show means they are a fake carats
@@beaksuhyukk i dont think so.. maybe they just dont want me to get hurt?
@@karlaglorioso if they really want to know more about them they really should watch this show. it has nothing to do with afraid of getting hurt bcs only by watching this show they know the struggle they went through in this show.
why would a carat say not to watch this show? in the opposite, i recommend to all carats to watch this. it’s thanks to this show that Jun went up my bias list. every carat has to know more about this side of Jun
@@padiiiii OMG YES LOUDER!!!! I hate it when some carats have this preconception of jun being "childish" or whatever they have on their mind when they have never seen this side of him yet because all he wanted to do was to spread happiness instead of negativity. He always wanted to make sure to make the members and carats smile by making them laugh. He never showed us his weakness and even during the last caratland he was holding up his tears after reading his mom letters.
Jun has such great stage presence and fierce expressions that you would never guess he lacked confidence. He always does well, he has such a sweet unique voice, i hope he gains more confidence
Eric's voice & music amaze me every single time....
13 Diamond Boy's Carat same here!! wohoo
13 Diamond Boy's Carat Eric is so effortless...I just love his voice
The8 is like Jun real brother it so cute how he asked for his help
Jun's performance wasn't sad at all but why am I crying?? Maybe I just felt proud to him because although he is alone he still manage to sing perfectly. I felt proud! Really!!
Cried hard bc of Yanan and Jun, then laughed and smiled bc of the kids Sammy and Nannan and then cried again bc of the elimination... such an emotional rollercoaster