Never go up against one of the Heavyweights of speakers corner. Brother Mansur has been knocking out liars and spreader's of falsehood, for over 20 years now. May Allah almighty, keep him and the whole Ummah rightly guided, ameen. !
Don't get deceived by the false prophet who will be coming after Jesus Christ as it was said, I was just wondering who is this false prophet after Jesus Christ does anybody knows who is this prophet
@K KH it's typical Atheist behaviour. They say "I'm a seeker of the truth" but they mean "your an idiot for following religion and believing there's a god and I'm right," and when you leave them no choice to admit to truth, they'll deny it and then even deny that they themselves exist to try and escape haha
@Kevin Love I'm sure your mother and father are ancestors taught you and you are teaching your children and they will teach theirs and so on your legacy will live on until you enter the fire of HELL
He doesn't anything. He gives no answers and reaches no conclusions. All he does is interrupt and talk over people. He has absolutely no idea how to debate.
You could also see it this way, a stuborn hardheaded donkey can't learn new tricks. Deep down you know it is wrong, but you choose anything else but Islam. Your hate blinds you and you keep the illogical thinking taught by your church. Here is an option other than Islam, Judaism as a core with the believe that Jesus was a Messiah and a Son of Man, a prophet. That would bring as far to heaven. That would make you a real Christian. Leave the pagan believes behind. Ps: stay off the trinity.
The red tshirt changed his flow of logic the moment he realized that the son Christ is getting stuck, he smirked and found where he is going. He could get to truth if he was truthful
When you try and act smart with brother Mansur.... The outcome is ALWAYS the same; He will ALWAYS remain the master and the student will ALWAYS get an educated verbal thrashing.
jessie .james we never “prostrate” to Jesus BUT we were always “prostrate” to Allah... like how this verse that said : Matthew 26:39 39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” May I asked, have any of you people do this on Matthew 26:39?? This is what Jesus or Nabi Isa makes.. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Kid in the red shirt is getting schooled EVERY week xD he just cant get enough ! Simple philosophy yet the kid cant answer "simple" philosophic questions. He needs to bring in examples who are based on another philosophic ground lol
But their hearts are in confused ignorance of this, And there are ,besides that, deeds of theirs, which they will (continue) to do. (QS Al Mu'minun: 63) Then when they went wrong, Allah let their hearts go wrong. (QS As Saff : 5)
@@PAKwatann ..why you are comparing us with God..in spiritual realm God can be in any dimension..he is spirit.. jesus is the word of God, holyspirit is the spirit of God..they both come from him unlike others..
What a great debate . Truly a joy to watch . So glad the Oxford kid came in . The other dude was an emotional wreck . Mansur Brother May Allah bless you . You have crushed these clowns again and again . Every time you pin them down and they are aware that there is only a one word answer to the question , they will start chanting non rational explanations and non logical fallacies to avoid the answer that needs to be given . Bravo ! Love your methods . Hats off to you . Props on your ability to have such patience with these clowns !
The true word of God. 👇 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The problems with the eternal "Caused" object; 1- (WHERE) The caused object occupies a "space" without frame, so the Cause can not have anything else where this first(ever) Cause exists (highest dimensions, 8D i.e). All the "space" out of time is for the Cause, which must be all-powerful, but if you place another being next to the first, means the first can not occupy the space of the second. (And then the problem about different wills) If one become placeless- frameless, who can regulate two placeless- frameless beings?! Out of space there is no coordination and no positions. But if there are TWO OBJECTS, THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER FOR THEIR SPACE, WHICH CREATES POSITIONS AND COORDINATIONS. So it becomes a paradox. Where there is the first Cause, there, there is no "before and after", and no "near or far". The Cause is in the highest dimension, and all the caused are in lower ones. The Cause can pass through and cause creations in all dimensions, but the Caused, only in lower dimensions. If our souls can BE in higher dimensions, that can never be the highest one. There is the Unlimited, the Necessary entity, which is UNDIVIDED ONE. This being can never be smaller, to make another unlimited being in the same dimension where the first UNLIMITED BEING IS. 2- (WHEN) This object, if it was caused, means had its status changed by a Cause. The first change (in status) needed is CREATION, or popping into existence. So, anything other than the eternal first cause, is created, and started existence AFTER THE CAUSE CAUSED IT at some level of dimensions, lower that the highest. 3-(WHAT) Regarding the attributes of this object that gets cause by the uncaused Cause; If caused then dependent, if dependent than NOT FITTING in the highest dimensions 8D. "No beginning and no end" can not fit something with (at least) a beginning. If this creation can not go to be in the 8D, than there is a lot it doesnt know, = ■not All-knowing. Same reasoning, ■not all seeing, ■ not all powerful because its limited in lower than 8D. ... Everything can be affected by the Necessary first Cause, but nothing can affect it, because nothing can go to 8D. _Im using 8D just as an example, I know that the theory of E8 particle might be or not be true_
Only Islam holds the truth of the absolute oneness of Allah. The creator and substaner of everything, who is all powerful and beyond time and space. Has no beginning and no end. Begets not, nor is begotten. How blessed we are to be Muslim. How bad my heart breaks for non Muslims....
I would simply argue that there is nothing in the Bible that is bringing to this kind of extremely complex conclusion they have about the divinity of Jesus. They are taking many concepts and mixing them to bring up something which is not in the bible at all. It’s just a frenzy of harmonising obvious contradictions in their scriptures. We clearly see coherence throughout history regarding the prophets, their message and their origins.
BASICALLY U DONT BELIEVE IN TRINITY.... WE GET IT GUYS LETS MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SUBJECT BECAUSE WE'VE NOW ESTABLISHED THAT MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS WONT EVER AGREE....
The Christians have this problem because they don't want to reject the verses that allude to the "divinity" of "the son" which may have been fabricated. So they are engaged in all of these philosophical gymnastics to try to vitalize the remnants of monotheism in their scriptures😂😂😂😂😂 Mansur also said this to Josh
I can't understand why christians are following some beliefs they have no idea what they really are, just because their fathers and the priest told them to follow.
to the guy in red shirt, trying to explain thing in a nerdy way and using too many useless hand gestures like an arguing telenovela character does not mean that u are correct
May allah guide me and all of u, respectfully I think that lately especially bro mansur and bro hashim have been getting into debates with people who after conceding and asking islams views them miss the opportunity of dawaa, and the non Believers are left with a debate not having changed their misguided beliefs
Blind black man"you cannot understand that cause spirit is not in you" to understand trinity you must have the spirit first without spirit you cannot understand my gods 3 in 1.confius.
Jesus is not an artist who can make such drama. He's not pray to himself as a God. If he want it as a God, whatever on his prays, he just let say snap it and there, that prays come true. Don't need make a such drama to himself to make a wish come true. "I am God this is your wish come true in front of you." it should sound like that if Jesus truly a God.
The Christians having difficulty explaining the trinity so now they are trying to justify and explain their belief with scientific and philosophical mumbo jumbo in an attempt to seem like they know what they talking about but that didn't work with brother mansur lol ...this guy was just waffling as mansur sometimes says lol
If the illogic can't be explained, you say you cannot understand it because you don't have the holy spirit, and you say that you do have it and understand the illogical as being logic. This guy was something. The coolest part is. Jesus probably had children, but was left out during the time that the church was making him divine. Because, if Jesus had children, they were demigods, and that would directly confirm the Roman/Hellenic pagan influence. Plus if we would pray to the Son only, now we need to pray to the Son of Jesus, then his son and his son, making things more complicated. Xtian logic is rambling apart. Sorry, I don't have the holy spirit to understand.
On the day of judgment Allah SWT will ask Jesus ('O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.) The Quran - Surat Al Maidah verse 116
These Muslim guys argument is starting to sound very weak now. All they do is try to ridicule the trinity belief, as if they dont understand the explanation. Yet its obvious they understand it. Saying you understand something doesn't mean you believe in it. All it means is you understand the thinking of the person you are speaking to. The fact that when I watch the Muslims arguments become so repetitive and motionless, it leaves me doubting whether the questioning of the trinity is genuine or whether its designed for viewers who are searching to mirror their on and off intelligence. Basically these questions are getting very boring, yet saying that I think I'm really starting to understand the trinity now as I have heard the explanation so many times...
Never go up against one of the Heavyweights of speakers corner.
Brother Mansur has been knocking out liars and spreader's of falsehood, for over 20 years now.
May Allah almighty, keep him and the whole Ummah rightly guided, ameen. !
Mansur is the best liers at the speakers corner
@@tualarin lol why u salty.
@@AA-ko4vu because the Truth hurts
Don't get deceived by the false prophet who will be coming after Jesus Christ as it was said, I was just wondering who is this false prophet after Jesus Christ does anybody knows who is this prophet
@@RedHat11111 yea its the anti christ but you cant see it properly because your bible is full of errors
Totally nonsense. How can creation have no beginning.. alhamdulillah for islam..
Muslims and the God Lah make more sense to them...
Islam itself dont make any sense...
@@mamamaria8989 yeah it make no sense for idiots like u.
@hood lam hahahaa...go study a bit history k..
@hood lam moral standard accotding to who? U ?
Ahhh.. that oxford kid again... He must be addicted to the truth. May Allah guides him.
"I'm a seeker of truth" is what was said to me... Then lied and lied and was in absolute denial haha. It's typical behaviour.
@K KH it's typical Atheist behaviour. They say "I'm a seeker of the truth" but they mean "your an idiot for following religion and believing there's a god and I'm right," and when you leave them no choice to admit to truth, they'll deny it and then even deny that they themselves exist to try and escape haha
When mansur take out pen and paper thats it its done 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍
Lol agree
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They will never understand until Allah swt opens their minds and hearts
That's true
Yeah, sun set into the spring muddy murky water
@Kevin Love I'm sure your mother and father are ancestors taught you and you are teaching your children and they will teach theirs and so on your legacy will live on until you enter the fire of HELL
@Kevin Love send your location and I will love to see you say that to my face you keyboard warrior
U muppet send it
They keep coming and mansur and co keep knocking sense into them.
He doesn't anything. He gives no answers and reaches no conclusions. All he does is interrupt and talk over people.
He has absolutely no idea how to debate.
@@truman5838 thank you someone who actually sees how this man speaks. It’s so clear that all the comments are Muslim bias.
@@truman5838 he sees Bullshit when Christians speak Bellshill that dosent make sense!
You could also see it this way, a stuborn hardheaded donkey can't learn new tricks. Deep down you know it is wrong, but you choose anything else but Islam. Your hate blinds you and you keep the illogical thinking taught by your church.
Here is an option other than Islam, Judaism as a core with the believe that Jesus was a Messiah and a Son of Man, a prophet. That would bring as far to heaven. That would make you a real Christian.
Leave the pagan believes behind.
Ps: stay off the trinity.
the guy with the red shirt keeps coming back
im surely he cant sleep well at night
hopefully he got hidayah soon
Amen
In Sha ALLAH
The red tshirt changed his flow of logic the moment he realized that the son Christ is getting stuck, he smirked and found where he is going. He could get to truth if he was truthful
The guy was dismantled by lamin....he loves being bashed.....br mansur is playing with his brain cells
Ironically, he is 'causing' the meme in his shirt.
Its simple, causing something is creating it which he cannot say because he knows he messed up.
Exactly. Clowns I tell ya . Bunch of silly clowns !
Perhaps Oxford university needs to review its admissions policy. This guy makes no sense and cannot even answer a simple question.
Only Christians have the holy spirit password :)
When you try and act smart with brother Mansur.... The outcome is ALWAYS the same; He will ALWAYS remain the master and the student will ALWAYS get an educated verbal thrashing.
Nah i ain't wasting 43mins on this. Just came here to give the video a view. 👍🏽 keep up the good work
May Allah bless you brother mansur for your patient in dawah ❤❤❤
Right
Patients?
He keeps interrupting and talking over the kid.
It's the kid who is being patient.
@@truman5838 😂😂😂
But Jesus himself would “prostrate” to thy lord 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
what is prostrating , it is a human gesture,has it any relevance in the nano atomic world
jessie .james well maybe Jesus did 🤷♂️🤷♂️
jessie .james we never “prostrate” to Jesus BUT we were always “prostrate” to Allah... like how this verse that said : Matthew 26:39
39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”
May I asked, have any of you people do this on Matthew 26:39?? This is what Jesus or Nabi Isa makes.. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
This is what “prostration” means to all the christian 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Kid in the red shirt is getting schooled EVERY week xD he just cant get enough ! Simple philosophy yet the kid cant answer "simple" philosophic questions. He needs to bring in examples who are based on another philosophic ground lol
subhanaAllah they would twist anything to fit their Trinity .
But their hearts are in confused ignorance of this, And there are ,besides that, deeds of theirs, which they will (continue) to do. (QS Al Mu'minun: 63)
Then when they went wrong, Allah let their hearts go wrong. (QS As Saff : 5)
Trinity Is Paganism ..its the human nature got tempted..temptation is not a sin..u must understand that
@@wolfpack9008 according to Jesus,the father is the only God.😁😁
@@PAKwatann ..jesus is from that God..he and father are one...
@@wolfpack9008 you and your son are one,that is your logic?
@@PAKwatann ..why you are comparing us with God..in spiritual realm God can be in any dimension..he is spirit.. jesus is the word of God, holyspirit is the spirit of God..they both come from him unlike others..
Josh and Luca can actually argue to convince people that chicken milk exists and they always drink it in the mornings lol
Can you drink chicken
Joking
when we listen to some persons for a while we can we can understand whether the conversation will be fruitful or not.
Why its so hard for this guy to say 'it is create' by God??
Trinity has been a intellect destroyer for centuries
Mansour has been working out again... he looks ripped mashallah
All
This big words , is just to avoid using the simple word , created
What a great debate . Truly a joy to watch . So glad the Oxford kid came in . The other dude was an emotional wreck . Mansur Brother May Allah bless you . You have crushed these clowns again and again . Every time you pin them down and they are aware that there is only a one word answer to the question , they will start chanting non rational explanations and non logical fallacies to avoid the answer that needs to be given . Bravo ! Love your methods . Hats off to you . Props on your ability to have such patience with these clowns !
The true word of God.
👇
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The Chap in the red t-shirt, suddenly felt uncomfortable at around 12 mins in.
This guy is a disgrace to Oxford University!!
It took so long for "causation", Coronavirus is gone
Still trying to figure out what cause means 😂
The spirit hit this guy ....still recovering in 2023
The problems with the eternal "Caused" object;
1- (WHERE)
The caused object occupies a "space" without frame, so the Cause can not have anything else where this first(ever) Cause exists (highest dimensions, 8D i.e).
All the "space" out of time is for the Cause, which must be all-powerful, but if you place another being next to the first, means the first can not occupy the space of the second. (And then the problem about different wills)
If one become placeless- frameless, who can regulate two placeless- frameless beings?!
Out of space there is no coordination and no positions.
But if there are TWO OBJECTS, THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER FOR THEIR SPACE, WHICH CREATES POSITIONS AND COORDINATIONS.
So it becomes a paradox. Where there is the first Cause, there, there is no "before and after", and no "near or far".
The Cause is in the highest dimension, and all the caused are in lower ones. The Cause can pass through and cause creations in all dimensions, but the Caused, only in lower dimensions.
If our souls can BE in higher dimensions, that can never be the highest one. There is the Unlimited, the Necessary entity, which is UNDIVIDED ONE. This being can never be smaller, to make another unlimited being in the same dimension where the first UNLIMITED BEING IS.
2- (WHEN)
This object, if it was caused, means had its status changed by a Cause.
The first change (in status) needed is CREATION, or popping into existence.
So, anything other than the eternal first cause, is created, and started existence AFTER THE CAUSE CAUSED IT at some level of dimensions, lower that the highest.
3-(WHAT)
Regarding the attributes of this object that gets cause by the uncaused Cause;
If caused then dependent, if dependent than NOT FITTING in the highest dimensions 8D.
"No beginning and no end" can not fit something with (at least) a beginning.
If this creation can not go to be in the 8D, than there is a lot it doesnt know, =
■not All-knowing.
Same reasoning,
■not all seeing,
■ not all powerful because its limited in lower than 8D.
...
Everything can be affected by the Necessary first Cause, but nothing can affect it, because nothing can go to 8D.
_Im using 8D just as an example, I know that the theory of E8 particle might be or not be true_
Only Islam holds the truth of the absolute oneness of Allah. The creator and substaner of everything, who is all powerful and beyond time and space. Has no beginning and no end. Begets not, nor is begotten. How blessed we are to be Muslim. How bad my heart breaks for non Muslims....
Our is Bro in dark skin
Haha...
I would simply argue that there is nothing in the Bible that is bringing to this kind of extremely complex conclusion they have about the divinity of Jesus. They are taking many concepts and mixing them to bring up something which is not in the bible at all. It’s just a frenzy of harmonising obvious contradictions in their scriptures.
We clearly see coherence throughout history regarding the prophets, their message and their origins.
Hes just reluctant to say CREATE
What a silly little boy trying to challenge brother mansur one of the most knowledgeable person in speakers corner alhamduillah for Islam
if Jews had accepted Jesus. we were not seeing this situation
BASICALLY U DONT BELIEVE IN TRINITY.... WE GET IT GUYS LETS MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SUBJECT BECAUSE WE'VE NOW ESTABLISHED THAT MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS WONT EVER AGREE....
He's a very passionate guy may Allah Almighty Bless him with hidiah - Ameen summa Ameen ❤️🧡💚💝!!!!
IS THIS STUDENT FROM OXFORD UNIVERSITY ? ? ?
I BET FROM OXFORD CIRCUS STREET
Causation = anything that produces an effect, the action of causing or producing, the relation of cause to effect, causality
27:37 onwards it gets interesting
I've also seen a big black dude, well spoken, pull some pretty big words, hyper static union, out his ass... amusing
It has to metaphysical prior otherwise how it cuased it it must preced it
Christian guy : don't use logic .
this guy is very truthfull. he accepts if you are a logical person you cannot understand christianity.
Even it simultaneously it is preceded and cannot be God but the father is a priori
This guy's shirt visual is my reaction listening.
IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO GET MARRIED YET HAVE A VERY STRONG BELIEF THAT GOD CAN DIE...
Can someone tell me Who is josh and jake and where can i find their discussion
Which one is the correct one. sFDawah or eFDawah? Its sFDawah right?!.....
Both ...are separate
@@inyourface7498 Gacca. Alhamdulillah thanks.
Brother mansur smashed it...... Alhamdulillah 👌👌
When two object mix that trun to other object not the two object mix just other object trun from that two object is called cost
Do Christians believe jesus was with God from the eternity? If they don't they can't argue for Co equality
Where is the discussion with Jake and Josh
0:22 stop dancing 😂😂😂😂😂
BORN AGAIN???
DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE 2 BIRTHDAYS???
Why did Allah not speak directly to Muhammad.logically Mansur??
The Christians have this problem because they don't want to reject the verses that allude to the "divinity" of "the son" which may have been fabricated. So they are engaged in all of these philosophical gymnastics to try to vitalize the remnants of monotheism in their scriptures😂😂😂😂😂
Mansur also said this to Josh
Skip the first 20minutes. Mansur keeps asking what is causation
If I punch Mansur on the nose and he bleeds..what was the cause. My punch. my intentions ..or does Mansur have a bleeding nose.
Guys like if I talk over you, and you cant shut me up, I win
I doubt most Christians that practice their faith sleep peacefully
The kid in red would matched *"wisely"* with subboor.
It'll be amazing if this kid can stay speaking after 5minute with subboor.
He couldn't ever explain! Because all he thinking is about trinity and trying to prove Jesus is God.
SubhanAllah, and all along i thought my english was bad..what was the cause!..wait what is cause!! haha
It doesn't matter if hs from oxford nothing can be more superior studies than Islaam.
cause = to create something "in the context of the debate!" I think my GCSE education can rival the prestigious Oxford University! ahahaha
I can't understand why christians are following some beliefs they have no idea what they really are, just because their fathers and the priest told them to follow.
Mansur the lion Wallahi!
Mansur is too rude this time, let the debate have life !
Where do the Christians get the idea of God the Father causing Jesus the son (and vice versa), atemporaly ?
to the guy in red shirt, trying to explain thing in a nerdy way and using too many useless hand gestures like an arguing telenovela character does not mean that u are correct
Love you Brother Mansur for the sake of ALLAH !
Is that coincidence
Both have same colour of T-Shirt.
Uniform says they are from same company lol
Spirituality without logic.
Alhamdulilah for Islam ❤️❤️😍
So 1+1+1 = ?
and, if Jesus had kids, what will they be called and will they be sinless or sinners
Let's see what oxford has produced
If Jesus had kids then their grandfather would be god . Christians are closer to the Ancient Greek beliefs . Alhamdullah for Islam
May allah guide me and all of u, respectfully I think that lately especially bro mansur and bro hashim have been getting into debates with people who after conceding and asking islams views them miss the opportunity of dawaa, and the non Believers are left with a debate not having changed their misguided beliefs
This is the same Man-Sewer who runs from the Christians in the Park that are familiar with all his lies!!
Blind black man"you cannot understand that cause spirit is not in you" to understand trinity you must have the spirit first without spirit you cannot understand my gods 3 in 1.confius.
Born again in the name of Jesus Christ....Jesus Christ the way to heaven to your Father in Heaven
I dunno how anyone can stand that pathological liar Mansur🤦♂️
Why cant our brothers just tell them the beauty and elequonce of the Quran
Jesus is not an artist who can make such drama. He's not pray to himself as a God. If he want it as a God, whatever on his prays, he just let say snap it and there, that prays come true. Don't need make a such drama to himself to make a wish come true. "I am God this is your wish come true in front of you." it should sound like that if Jesus truly a God.
The Christians having difficulty explaining the trinity so now they are trying to justify and explain their belief with scientific and philosophical mumbo jumbo in an attempt to seem like they know what they talking about but that didn't work with brother mansur lol ...this guy was just waffling as mansur sometimes says lol
Wow really Oxford!!?😂😂😂
If the illogic can't be explained, you say you cannot understand it because you don't have the holy spirit, and you say that you do have it and understand the illogical as being logic. This guy was something.
The coolest part is. Jesus probably had children, but was left out during the time that the church was making him divine. Because, if Jesus had children, they were demigods, and that would directly confirm the Roman/Hellenic pagan influence. Plus if we would pray to the Son only, now we need to pray to the Son of Jesus, then his son and his son, making things more complicated.
Xtian logic is rambling apart. Sorry, I don't have the holy spirit to understand.
Spirituality of this individual ("christian chap") over rides logic,reasoning,years of objective depth of sincere studies!?
It was not a fruitful discussion because guy in a red shirt was just waste of time. He knew nothing just trying to defend their trinity concept.
Who is the father of muhammad?
If Jesus Pbuh won't have kids and doesnt have the lust why would they associate it with the true God???
Be careful about the man that appears at the last second of the video, the one walking from right to left !!!!!
Why?
Mansur I think you are disturbed you should take some rest have peace in your mind
Mansur look at oxford dictionary for meaning, how is this debate of year ;))
On the day of judgment Allah SWT will ask Jesus ('O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.)
The Quran - Surat Al Maidah verse 116
Jesus is a example is so easy god show use what and how we should do
Poor Mansur lost in hadiths and hatred
These Muslim guys argument is starting to sound very weak now. All they do is try to ridicule the trinity belief, as if they dont understand the explanation. Yet its obvious they understand it. Saying you understand something doesn't mean you believe in it. All it means is you understand the thinking of the person you are speaking to. The fact that when I watch the Muslims arguments become so repetitive and motionless, it leaves me doubting whether the questioning of the trinity is genuine or whether its designed for viewers who are searching to mirror their on and off intelligence. Basically these questions are getting very boring, yet saying that I think I'm really starting to understand the trinity now as I have heard the explanation so many times...
Means you don’t understand the debates 🙂