NFHS Baseball: Lineup Card Management, Substitutions, and the DH, Player/DH
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2022
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Thanks for the videos, great teaching too for Houston County Association.
Thanks for all the great videos. Now someone needs to do the same for nfhs softball too.
Excellent video!
No this is a great video and review it yearly and recommend it to all new or even seasoned umpires!! Houston County Umpires
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you again for the information and learning experience.. Houston County Umpires
Thanks for watching!
Very nice job presenting the administration responsibilities of PU. With all of the oversized lineup cards around that require a TrapperKeeper size holder, maybe a video on how to store in our shirt pocket would help!! 🤣
In the works!
To confirm, if you are using the pitcher as the player/DH there can be no courtesey runner for the pitcher. There can only be a substitute for the pitcher (player/DH) which then nullifies the DH for the remainder of the game since a player was used on offense for the player/DH.
Great video. Loved it. At 9:37, the card indicates that 9 courtesy ran for the catcher. Then, 52 courtesy ran for the catcher later. Assuming that 9 is still on the bench as an eligible substitute:
1) Can the team later decide that it wants to go back to using 9 as the runner for the catcher?
2) If no, what if 52 was injured? Does that change the answer to the first question?
3) If still no, what if 52 later enters the game in a defensive position? Does that change the answer to my first question?
4) If still no, what if 9 is the only guy on my bench? Since the courtesy runner is meant for speeding up the game, can I then use 9 as a courtesy runner for the catcher?
I only ask because the games I have watched used runners pretty haphazardly and I never really saw the umpires taking much notice of who was running for whom ... and I want to do it right.
Thanks.
At the 21:30 point of the video you state that the defensive role/DH player may only come back in to play in the defensive position listed on the lineup. This struck me odd and I referenced the 11 DH situation provided by the NFHS where it states in situation 5... "SITUATION 5: Brady is the pitcher/ DH and tires in the second inning. The coach brings in Kelly to pitch in the second inning. In the fourth inning, Evans replaces Kelly as the pitcher. In the fifth inning, Brown replaces Evans as the pitcher. In the seventh inning, Brady returns to play first base. RULING: These substitutions are all legal, with Brady remaining the DH in each instance. Brown will be out of the game when Brady returns. The pitcher/DH is not locked into a defensive position and may be moved defensively while being locked in the batting order. (3-1- 4b)"
at 20:45 you state theat #18 comes in for #21 at 1st base but #21 is pitching. Did you mean pitcher as #34 is the 1st baseman or is there a double switch?
Curious as well
Hello, I was running the press box one day and noticed that one of the teams was using a DP flex. I also umpire and did not think that was allowed. Are DP flexes allowed in baseball now? Can't find anything in the 2023 rulebook.
In baseball, it is called a player/DH.
My guess is it is somewhat similar to the softball flex (I don't do softball so just a quick google search.)
Check under the DH Rule!
Home team exchanges lineups first. Can visiting team make changes after seeing the home teams officially accepted line up card?
Until the lineup is exchanged, it isn't official. So technically, yes, could make a quick change in that small window.
@@alexchavez3383 when is ceremonial first pitch? Before anthem and line up cards exchanged?
What's the order? Ceremonial first pitch, anthem with optional standoff, lineups, play ball?
As a brand new umpire with my first game in mere hours, this is extremely confusing lol
How'd it go?
@@ThankYouFather It went fine! I’ve only done JV so far, so the subs and everything really aren’t a concern at all.
@@ThatGuyThatGames24 nice. Yeah being plate guy for JV games is great. No need to worry about all that.
Personally, whenever I'm doing a Varsity game, i just write down the mound visits on the top of the lineup card.
I don't make a chart at all like this video shows... maybe I should. Idk. Bit so far so good.
Good luck out there. Have FUN!
Do you record the position changes, especially the pitcher. For example, at 20:49 18 comes in for 21 and plays first base. Did Hank Small who is currently playing first base move to pitcher?
How to you keep track of pitching changes? As well as situation where a player who moves to pitcher does not pitch to a batter, etc. How do you note that so he can't come back in as pitcher?
Don't track position changes. The only part that really matters is if the substitute coming into the game is eligible to do so, and that they are batting in the proper order.
If we had a weird scenario like this with a pitcher, I'd just write a note on my lineup card.
@@UmpireClassroom I've always tracked pitching changes in high school because of the various substitution / re-entry rules. By the way, your videos are very good. I'm going to use your line up card management this year, with some minor exceptions.
@@UmpireClassroomthanks Patrick. The line -up card management is gold. My first look at this video. I did not know the player/ DH has to re-enter into the same defensive position. I haven’t been able to practice managing this rule because not one coach has ever used it.
Is the Player/ DH being used a lot in your area?
@@rayray4192 The player/DH does NOT have to re-enter into the same defensive position. He just needs to stay in the same spot in the batting order. See Casebook 3.1.4 Sit. F for the exact scenario.
Ed. Also Sit. H and Sit. J are scenarios where the original P/DH can reenter in his original spot in the batting order but play a different defensive position.
@@willowbrook2717 The quintessential example is a player/ DH who started as pitcher- is taken off the hill- sits down but still bats- then returns as an outfielder. That return is his one and only re - entry as a starter.
What is the “W” column for?
Warnings
Thanks. Would value a segment on game management, warnings, ejections, etc. including rule book protocols and procedures.
This needs to be o.b.r. rules..
I would like to see MLB add re-entry to the all-star game. That would make it much easier to get everyone in the game.
Correct. An exhibition game. An official game should use o.b.r.
The word salad that baseball's DH, Player/DH rule has devolved into is a real head-scratcher! It appears that baseball is attempting to mimic softball's Designated Player/Flex rule which was created 20 years ago! The DP/Flex rule is simple to understand and manage, and appears to provide more flexibility for player management in games. It seems like high school baseball should just adopt the DP/Flex rule. I welcome anyone to explain an advantage DH, P/DH has over DP/Flex other than just trying to maintain tradition.
This is a hardball site. I don’t care about softball rules.
@@rayray4192 Perhaps you should broaden your horizons!
For the record I agree with you. DP/Flex is worlds easier to understand, and more true to the other rules you are allowing.
Nfhs DH is insanely confusing
@@auzmo I’ve finally figured out the baseball player/ D.H. For the 90 % of hardball umpires who don’t u pier softball can you please explain the DP/ Flex rule?
@@rayray4192 i dont umpire softball or baseball but I have coached both.
DP /Flex is just a 10 person defense with one 1 person positioned on the bench. As long as the DP is still on offense they have never left the game and as long as the flex always plays defense they have never left the game. The flex can only play offense for the DP (which results in DP sub for the DP). The DP can play defense for anyone except if it is for the flex the flex has left the game.
Instead of DP being an offense only position like DH. DP is more someone that you want in the game offensively and defensively (why they use the term player not hitter). The DP could play defense for every other player in the lineup/field except for the flex without ever making a substitution)
The Flex could be called Designated fielder similar to how DH is designated hitter. Though the flex can still play offense youve now substituted for DP and have only 9 players unless you reenter a DP and move the flex back out of the lineup.
So a team of students is called the Outlaws and their line up card says, ‘ We steal more than bases.’