Avalanche Season Ends in Double OT
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- The Colorado Avalanche had their chances, but couldn't break through against the Dallas Stars, who an old nemesis in Matt Duchene found the back of the net to end the series in six games.
The Avs seemed to find their game over the past two games, but it was too little too late as they needed so many things to go right for them for three consecutive games against a very strong Stars team.
So the question is what happens now? There are many questions around this Avalanche team heading into the off-season.
A lot to discuss so tune in, subscribe and enjoy!
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Haven't watched the full episode yet, but i appreciate the praise you're giving Dallas. GGs. Also, it hurts me to read some of the comments on some videos by other Dallas fans, I'm sorry you have to deal with those, they are a minority (I hope, otherwise I'd be ashamed of being a Stars fan). Maybe see you next year if our teams meet again, have a like and and a great day :)
Eh, every fan base has some toxic fans. But as an avs fan. Kind of wouldn't mind seeing duchene win it.
These clowns said Dallas was "nothing special" and compared them to the islanders in their podcast last week. These two are a joke.
@@skinnie2838we already have disproved this when u posted it originally. We can do it again if u want us to. Selective hearing and cherry picking comments are a hell of a characteristic. Dallas won, congratulations to them, it's time to move on.
@LockedOnAvalanche thanks for your coverage of this series. I appreciate both of your opinions and analysis. Thank you and go Stars 🌟
From what I got from the (comparing to the Islanders message) Dallas played a (Islanders) type game in game 3 which I didn't disagree with considering Dallas blowing huge leads at home in games 1 and 2. Dallas went more offensive the rest of the series
I was honestly in awe of the defense and goaltending by both teams, just 2 elite teams absolutely locked in. Dallas is just a monster right now and Shesterkin going nuts might the only way to stop them. Congrats to Duchene, if it had to be anyone very poetic that its him.
Dallas fan here saying that was a great game. All the respect, and I wonder if the high speed offense y'all have with the best home game record met its match with the strongest defense abs best record on the road team.
Hence why the game was so good and your players just got tired in OT. Meaning it's just a war of attrition.
Dallas is so good, so well coached. I hated watching this series and yea for a non dutchy fan that was even more a stinger. It was inevitable I feel. You could just see Dallas was not going to let this one slip away they had the heart I guess. Avs coulda used LoC, Val and our Capt Landi that's pretty clear now. We also need some more players like Manson, Colton etc... Seems like it takes one guy like Benn and we get pushed around. Maybe it was a confidence thing idk. The mack benn stardowns were gnarly lol
Stars fan here! I enjoy your podcast and it was a great series between both teams!
Respect for you guys having a fair take on the OT goal.
LOA...
You guys gave us a great season, and amazing outlet to really talk as fans...
Thank you for the 2023-2024 season❤❤
But!!!
I am so proud of our boys and they really fought as best as they could. This jagged little pill is hard to swallow because of who won it for Dallas. I can take that its over, but man that one hurt.
But now the conversation is all about McDavid, and THAT irritates me because if Mackinnon and Kucherov do not get a fair shot at the hart i will lose my soul!!
After that game, it’s obvious that the Avs don’t have the depth to truly compete with a team like Dallas. When you can’t spread the ice time more evenly to all of your forwards, you aren’t going to have your legs in a game like this. The avs were clearly the more tired team in OT and they had a week off before this series.
true they do not have the depth most think that they do..
Dallas may very well win the cup this year and be contenders for a while with their strong young core. However, their depth will also be tested when contracts come up and they become more top heavy. This is the challenge of continued success in the salary cap era.
I liked how the Avs got tougher with Wood, Trenin and Duhaime, as that seems to be the direction the league is going if you want to go deep in the playoffs. But it just didn't happen this year. I think this Dallas team is better than any Western team Colorado beat in 2022. They were more like the '22 Lightning. A very formidable opponent.
@@phenning33it'll be an Eastern conference champ this season more than likely.
@@dereks1848 a lot of it depends on who’s the least banged up.
Thanks, guys for another great year of coverage and thoughts. I really appreciate you both and value your opinions. Last year I was glad it was over because the boys were just too beat up from the cup run and we just didn't have it. This year I am glad it is over because I am exhausted and tired of trying to figure out why so much talent, good coaching, etc. Just didn't seem to care about showing up for important games, you right how we ended the regular season caught up with us. For some reason, Mikko seems to be the poster child for me on this bad attitude. I have never seen a player his size lose his feet more, or get brushed aside by people half his size, over and over again. I have a new nickname for him Staypuff Marshmellow Man. I can't remember the last time he got in trouble because he put a hit on someone yet he is " Power forward"? Right, whatever. If he is Moose then he is Bullwinkle. Go Panthers and E. Rod. 🦁
Both teams left EVERYTHING out on the ice and both goalies absolutely played their butts off making unbelievable saves! GG to the Avs and I know y’all will definitely be back! Really enjoyed yalls breakdown and content during the series. Great Season and Great series!! GG!!
Continued prayers as well for Val… #GoStars ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
(Aside note: I appreciated yalls take on the No goal…👊🏼👍🏼)
I am soo disappointed in Val. Second year in a row he has pulled this.
@@solvingpolitics3172 I totally get it! Really deflated y’all for Game 4..I truly do hope that he can slay the demons that are beating him currently…🤞🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@jeremygates9374
Think he would have made the difference?
@@solvingpolitics3172 I said it before..
I really believed that the series was going to go into Game 7 and then into OT (with the Stars ultimately prevailing) so, honestly, I do believe he could’ve/would’ve made at least some difference. To say otherwise would not be truthful. Just look at the stats he was putting up…
That wasn't a lucky bounce, Paveski passed the puck to Duche on the winner
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They dont like giving credit to Dallas. Could ya tell? The avs were overhyped this year and were exposed by the Stars. Plain and simple.
@@skinnie2838 Two comments below this one is
"This one I had to bail on, might as well go work for the Stars
I get a review is needed for the team to assess the problems but this is rubbing salt in a wound."
They're just playing to their audience
@skinnie2838 are you being a jerk or really that ignorant? They praised dallas quite a bit, and focused on the fact that the avs were outplayed. The difference between these two teams isn't large enough to day the avs were exposed.
@@qp2044 No. They said Dallas was "nothing special" and looked like "the islanders". I am just here to remind them of their stupid commentary.
@@qp2044he's being both a jerk and ignorant. He knows he's wrong he's just too ashamed to admit it.
Not happy the Avs got bounced, but relieved that the Avs didn't advance because of a very iffy goalie interference call. If the Avs advanced, there would always be an asterisk attached to it. So at least we avoided that. The Avs are good. Very good. Stars were better. Period.
No captain for two years now. Big Val just quits on us again this postseason. This series could have went totally different but you cannot win the Cup every season. We will be back next season tho, trust that.
Val quit on Dallas too. Then the ownership sweeps his hooker problems under the rug. It was predictable.
The puck didnt just scoot towards Duchene. If you watch all the angles is was a great pass by Pavelski.
Avs biggest issue was in goal, that was answered. Front office did make this team better, some of the moves made, really didn't cost future of the team in the win now window. Just like last year, its goes to key guys injured and/or missing. Not blaming it on anyone, but a little more luck who knows. I feel the superstars were playing a little to safe, playing like 3rd liners, which messed up some of time of attacks. Players weren't sure if superstars weren't going to make a play or dump it in. So it cost a delay on puck retrieval.. Most of the chances came from the 3rd line, just no finish. Take another step back and hope for a better season next year. Have great summer!!
I mentioned Higher Truth the other day and love your tune choices. Two years in a row getting smothered by great defensive teams. Really , Dallas gives you nothing and the Avs couldn't figure it out . Nate said it postgame and he was right . Didn't score enough, and when they needed a goal......one goal they couldn't find it .
We did get unlucky with Tartar and Johanson. Drouin works like a charm and I belive they will find a way to keep him. With Val I wonder if the NHL will allow Avs to do something. Since this has never really happened. I also think asking the players to welcome him back is crazy. The players may not want him around anymore. Am I the only one who thought Walker was kinda a risk? Yes he can skate and shoot but we need shut down D we have enough skating D.
You guys are so underrated. Thanks for this season.
Shaggy, Shaggy, Shaggy. Your pick for your last song is absolutely perfect. I LOVE Man Overboard. Especially as the last song on The Mark, Tom, and Travis Show. There really was so much more that I wanted and needed. God, what a song. Blink is my all time favorite band. The magic that was captivated in 2022 when they acknowledged the whole All The Small Things connection then Mark showed up
at Ball, the memories. Very sad ending. I feel like our window is starting to close.
not being able to win faceoffs in the ots really killed us i think we won like 2 and they were dzone ones , sad , but at least we aint worrying about goaltender next year thats for sure , georgie played his heart out all playoffs minus game one ,and god pls dont let the oilers win game 7 dont need to hear from those fans anymore lol
Otter Won This Game,Especially In The 2 OT...Go Stars
100% delay of game. Weak weak goalie interference call. The boys looked so gassed in OT. Dallas had the Avs number and were just better and more consistent for longer. Great learning experience for the Avs. I feel like if we had started our season with the team we ended with, our season would have looked much different. Nate looked determined after that loss, I expect a ton from him next season. The off season will be interesting to follow. Just a matter of finding the right parts. I would predict Avs wining the cup within the next two seasons if we can get the right team sooner rather than later. Can’t wait for next season!
The only thing that surprises me is the more well rested team got totally out worked and our hustled in the two OT periods. I guess conditioning and depth of lineup should be the main focus going forward?
And also the second MacFarland season as GM ends in failure - the ghost of the second round exits is back! It is hilarious that, in the end, Georgiev was the best Avs player in the Dallas series. The Stars were the better team despite playing 7 games round 1 compared to one week off for the Avs. What this series showed, two world-class players and the rest of average players could not be a TEAM. Should the Avs pay Rantanen double-digit millions in his next contract? So glad that my born-again Christian brother Matt Duchene scored the series winner - God bless you, Matt!
Thanks again Val
i hope praise gives it one more kick with us , one full season would be nice .like hey it took bourque that full season :P
Dallas fan who has massive respect for the Av’s. I thought that after we played a long, very physical 7 game series v LV that we wouldn’t get past the rested Avs. Glad to see we were the deeper, better team in the end.
I don’t think you can underestimate the loss of Val. He an absolute beast. Hope he can get his personal life sorted out.
Feeling good going forward v the winner of Van/Edm.
GO STARS!!
My quick thoughts on what the off season might look like.
1. i bet that they negotiate a contract settlement with Val. it will cost something against the cap, but not as much as a buy out. let's call it $2mil next year. that leaves them just about $14 mil in cap space which includes Landy and LOC both playing.
2. sign Mittelstadt, lets assume that comes in at 5 years $5 mil, that takes us down to $9 mil
3. Defense, promote Malinski full time and sign/promote 2 more league min players (let's just call them JJ and Caleb Jones for now). that's $2.5 mil more leaving $6.5 mil left.
4. assuming Landy and LOC are ready to play that leaves 5 slots to fill. let's start by putting Kovalenko, Wagner, and Foudy, in 3 of them for $2.5 mil total leaving $4 mil to play with.
5. here's where it gets tricky. maybe sign Trenin at ~$2 mil? Would Drouin stay for ~$3mil? Duhaim at ~$1 mil? might Callum Ritchie be able to make the jump from Juniors or will he have to go back to the OHL for another year there which he doesn't need? Do they maybe try to trade Manson and find a cheaper option in that slot?
Wow is that a Grateful Dead tee shirt I saw them in Telluride town park back in the day what a scene that was
I'm so disappointed that the AVs lost. But I have to agree that the better team won!
We need better 2-4th lines.
Just saying Avs didn't win at home against Stars .that's never happened in Avs playoffs history
It ended in the first overtime but the NHL didn’t want that. They wanted a game seven so they continued on with their corrupt ways. As for the Avs, they are a real great time. That series was either teams.
Chris Cornell did not kill himself. Great epi, gents. Go Stars.
Neither did Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, Andrew Wood or Shannon Hoon. All on an island living life.
@@LockedOnAvalanche Hillary got them too, eh?
At least our jerseys are a million times better. That thumbnail really showcases this.
High quality take. Thanks for sharing.
@@rix911 thanks for the reply. In depth response
I loved how the Avalanche played in this second round of the playoffs. The Avalanche need desperately a better group of players to play in the 3rd and 4th line just like what the Dallas Stars have. The team needs to see some home grown players instead of finding talent in the free agency pool. Val Nichuskin is a cancer on the team. Should Val return to the team then you will see the locker room turn toxic. Yes Landeskog will return but his offensive numbers will not return. I am happy with how this playoffs ended . Thank you Awesome Sauce for helping the Avalanche this Playoff season.
(Nichushkin / Landy) MacKinnon Rantanen
(Drouin) (Mittelstadt) Lehkonen
Wood Colton O'Connor
(Duhaime) (Trenin) Kovalenko
Makar / Toews
Girard / Manson
(Walker) / (Malinski)
if everyone is back, if everyone is cap conscious and is prioritizing being on a team pushing for a championship then i like our roster. i think people are overlooking the hole LOC left with his injury this season. Super versatile, can move up and down the lineup and a fantastic penalty killer
That blue line looks like it only scores goals…and by that I mean just Makar. Manson was a better offensive dman than Girard all season. Watch the team to win it again this year have big bodied mobile dmen with snarl. That Avs blue line is soft AF and small AF. That’s not going to win a cup.
@@bafriesen i think our backend is the envy of the league. Makar, Toews are all world. Best pairing in the NHL when used together. Manson brings a physical element while being extremely efficient at moving the puck, Loved his game this year. Sammy G is less physical for sure but he's also a way above average puck mover. I felt Walker was really effective for us since the pick up, blends that puck moving physical style well. He would be better suited having someone more physical (like a Manson) with him than what Malinski brings but now we're dipping into the free agent market
@@bafriesen that's stupid...that blue line literally won a cup. Swap walker for Byram, which doesn't change the point you poorly made
Goal tender interference is not solely whether a player is in the crease. A player can stop a goalie from making a play outside of the crease. In this case Duchene bumped Geogiev and ended up tying up his stick so he could not easily get to his right.
“This rule is based on the premise that an attacking player’s position, whether inside or outside the crease, should not, by itself, determine whether a goal should be allowed or disallowed. In other words, goals scored while attacking players are standing in the crease may, in appropriate circumstances be allowed.
Goals should be disallowed only if: (1) an attacking player, either by his positioning or by contact, impairs the goalkeeper’s ability to move freely within his crease or defend his goal;”
Oddly enough, i think if the avs are able to keep most of this roster while also somehow being able to have landy, LOC, and val come back (and stay back in.) i think this team can be pretty solid.
1st line being Mac,rant, and val doesn't sound bad.
2nd line could be landy, lehky, mittlestat
Drouin could fit in either the 1st or 2nd line when needed imo.
3rd line is where i think it gets tough like there's colton and LOC. and im not sure who we could put with them right now. Maybe lehky if the depth is good enough. Same with the defense. You could fill in roughly 3/4 of the roster confidently. But that 4th line im not sure what to do with it at all.
And if georgiev gets the ball rolling next season like he did in the playoffs. As far as im concerned, we have our guy. Plus who knows, maybe he's got another gear and gets a bit better. Im very optimistic about him right now.
But i still wanna know what annunen can do. So give him a couple more starts next season.
Oh and finally, work on consistency. As lets be honest this team was up and down all season. And thats what we saw in the playoffs. Great 1st round barely good enough 2nd round.
I’m just going to put this out there, I know Georgie played better the later it got into the playoffs. But finishing with under .900 and with a GAA of basically 3.00 (dropped just below because of the overtime game, was a little above all series)which for the record are his NORMAL STAT LINES. We weren’t ever going to win the cup. This team can’t be expected to score 4+ goals EVERY game in the post season
This is the kind of year where you ponder the what ifs. What if landy was ready to play, LOC didn't get injured, Val did playoff things instead of Val things. One too many cuts to keep up with Dallas. I wish duchene continued failure in his journey around the league as a rental chasing a cup
This series was won in game 4, when we all know what happened, Dallas was the better team but if you took their rookie 53 out in the middle of this playoff round I’m not sure they would of recovered either! Their G was great in game 4 and 6 the rest of the games the bounces went his way, go back and look at the games and tell me he was the better goalie in this playoff round, he wasn’t he was on the winning team! I’m not convinced that if they play Van and Demko is back that they will win and if he can out play a goalie who’s a top G
Dude the stars are playing with tremendous confidence and knowing you took down the previous champions isn’t a fluke and they’ll take that with them the rest of the way. Stop hatin and give credit where it’s due
Can’t win ‘em all I guess 😢
Guess the theme for this season was consistently inconsistent
Thoughts now into the off-season
Lands I think is a bit more cut and dry, he’s either back for game one and all is ok. If not then the convo of a C needs to be had. I know we have plenty of leaders in the room but having the overall leader will help. FYI I’m banking on Landy being back.
Now Val……….its unanimous we all wish him the best and hope he gets the help he needs. But from purely business, can he be trusted by front office? Even some of the team eluded to it. Would they want him back? It’s going to be a lot for front office to handle. One question I have about it. Val is suspended for 6 months minimum and which time he has to enter the programme. Does that mean he wouldn’t even be able to go back home?
Appreciate you guys being there all season long, it ended too quickly
No trust in too many players, shame because west is/was very weak. Good show you nailed everything
Kyle's face says it all.... super sad face!
There’s no turning back with Val.
Nothing to be sad about. More underachieving resumes in just about 4 months.
yea good pick kyle , man overboard :(
Don’t reccomd ding a drnking game everytime Kyle nods
What happened boys? Cant win at home, best home team in the league.. Smh
It’s naive to put Val in lineups for next year . I don’t think avs fans are understanding psychology or addiction. First psychology - you have to be 105 percent focused mentally for this pinnacle of hockey where the game is near perfect . Losing a key player to addiction for a second time deja vu is a psychological harpoon that is nearly incompatible with winning this cup , you just can’t have any major emotional blow when the endeavor requires laser sharp focus. Second is addiction - his substance abuse knocked him out of two playoffs. Getting right back into hockey and playing in another Stanley cup will almost be certain to relapse again . His risk will be so high that it is almost certain in a person that did it twice . The only way to get him through a Stanley cup would be to require a chaperone and curfew for the entire cup .
Last song, the offspring - worst hangover ever...we never gonna win again, until next season begins, we never gonna win again :)
Thought we had superstars on our team. Can’t keep our players focused on hockey and winning another cup. Might be a one hit wonder team in ‘22
Sigh…
Go Avs Go
You act like winning a cup is nothing special, and our players were focused Dallas is just a plain better team. They are utterly elite no shame in losing in 6 to them. You don't just win cups every year willy nilly
@@RIPJimmyA7X the Avalanche were inferior the entire second round. But okay, still blame our team for mismanagement of the players. So sad to see after being so dedicated to winning a couple years ago.
@@joseph7696 so you just expect us to win a cup every year because we "try". Newsflash, there are 16 other teams trying to win a cup. Just because we lose in the second you think that Sakic, Bednar and Mackinnon are just twiddling their thumbs not caring? Please
@@RIPJimmyA7X Toronto right now is thinking about blowing up the team because their superstars aren’t producing enough.
This sucks guys..
is it possible to buy gabe out , let him heal , then he could resign for a lower amount like the min lol since he got paid , is that legal ? cause that would free up alotta cap space for us , not sure it is legal but hey its thought lol
They can't buy him out in the sense his contract just goes away. If u buy out a player his contract remains on the cap for double the length of his deal, but at a less amount.
GG
ur way off about val, hes done, number one cant they cancel his contract over "breach of contract" if not so, then theyll have to bite the bullet and trade him off at a loss, no one way in hell after how they gave him a glorious chance after how wild the first thing he did was, that they will give him another chance when he pulled that off in second round of playoffs, and prety much destroyed any chance that the avs had at moving forward in playoffs, second round in nhl is no joke u need 2 not forget that its very expetnional to get there especialy these days with the parity
Most likely, they can terminate on breach of contract. Most sports contracts have a conduct detrimental to the league and other player misconduct clauses that allow for a split in this kind of situation.
Stars won the game twice. 🤣
I started listening to your show a few weeks ago. Pretty good overall.
This one I had to bail on, might as well go work for the Stars 😒
I get a review is needed for the team to assess the problems but this is rubbing salt in a wound.
Now THIS is some fair weather fan crap 😂😂😂
@@joshtracy4441 Crap is right, you obviously read my message wrong. I am no fair weather fan🙄. I have followed the AVS for almost a decade.
My comment was about not wanting to listen to the players get ripped and insulted. Not that I am down on the team, I want them to recover from this setback and have a good season.
What I heard was a bunch of insults and falling all over the Stars team. I chose to stop listening because of that.
You got beat by a better team. You calling Dallas "nothing special" and comparing them to the islanders in a podcast last week makes this all the more sweeter. Get rekt.
The exact phrase we used in this episode. Or do u want to twist that comment as well to make it seem like we aren't giving them credit again?
@@LockedOnAvalanche Hey look, its the cry baby who said Val didnt have a choice in abandoning his team and who continues to pretend like he didnt disrespect the Stars. Your team got exposed. Go make a 55 view podcast crying about it again.
@@skinnie2838it's funny how you want to paint us as the ones crying when u are STILL whining about things that happened a week ago.
@@LockedOnAvalanche When you continue to lie about why you said what you said someone continues to check you on it so yeah we are still talking about it. Shocking development folks. The media must be alerted at this stunning turn of events.
Boo, hoo.
@@skinnie2838the lie came from u twisting words to try and make a point. We've established that. U just refuse to accept that reality because it blows up your original, and wrong, narrative.
last cup they won was a fluke
Really? 😄
No, when you beat the two-time defending champs, including 7-0 in one of the games, it's not a fluke. And I'm not even an Avs fan.
There are no fluke Stanley Cup winners. You can't win 4 best of seven series on a fluke. This isn't football.
Definitely no fluke. As a Dallas fan, i know how hard it is to beat Tampa in a series. We tried in 2020 and lost. Colorado earned that Cup
I have to say it took me a day to get over my disappointment of this season, but even if this year is over, it isn't the end...to be continued. So my final Band-Maid sound check has to be Endless Story ua-cam.com/video/Za1y-RRVd70/v-deo.htmlsi=HndDXfHi21W_Pnua
Best game of Georgiev’s career!
to chris; first little rant 3 cups in 30 years im pretty sure no one else has won more right , couple at 3 aswell ill take that :) .
Detroit has 4 but none since 08 and Pitt has 3 as well and like 5 in 35 years but ya people aren't getting how hard it is to win the cup, you don't just put a couple generational players on a team and rip off 4 championships in 5 seasons.
@@RIPJimmyA7X detroit, Pittsburgh, Chicago, the Lightning
Dallas fan coming in peace. GGs all around. Yall are a hell of a team. My question is about Val. What do yall think you should do with him? My thought is that this is a fool me one, fool me twice type scenario. I’m not sure what his contract looks like, so idk if yall can send him packing or not. But how do you bring a player that screwed you over two years in a row (in a season ending fashion) back into your locker room. I don’t think you can. Just curious to see what yall think about it.
See you on down the road.