I have seen some experimental lock sleeve made of aluminum with tiny ceramic balls composition the test have angle grinder disk badly damaged by the ceramic balls and the bolt cutter having ceramic balls dangerously exploding when it's been compress.
@@kevinprice2274 oddly enough, I commented on this vid 8 months ago and completely forgot that I did when that was posted by LPL. I guess his vid generated renewed interest in this vid and someone commented on my comment, reminding me that I posted here lol
My guess, microphone wouldn't have picked it up properly anyways and we would not have liked the sound. I'm kind of glad they didn't throw a music track over it too.
Wouldn't it be quicker to make a couple of long vertical cuts in the what looks like an aluminium shell, to cut out a large rectangular section to make plenty of clearance for the grinder gearbox? Also maybe attack the lock tube section instead of the bit with the hardened shackle in it? Would definitely help if you got someone competent with an angle grinder. I was expecting the hollow spaces in the soft metal shell to be filled with something like carborundum powder set in resin, to wear hacksaw blades and cutting discs, or beads containing a two part instant adhesive, disappointingly it is not.
The truth of the matter is, a thief with an angle grinder wouldn’t even attempt to cut this open. So that brings up an interesting thought. They should make a similar looking lock that looks beefy but is essentially a lighter weight hollow tube and maybe a standard u-lock inside of it. It’ll be a lot lighter and still look undefeatable. They’ll just cut the bike rack anyway.
Dangerous One, We agree, thieves are looking for the easiest opportunity to steal a bike and not get caught. Cutting the bike rack, would take longer than cutting any bike lock that is not a SAF Lock. This is why they use angle grinders to cut a bike lock in seconds and be gone. The SAF Lock both discourages and resists attack, making your bike the hardest bike to steal and an unlikely target next to bikes with less secure locks.
now that it's know to be only a 14mm shackle inside, one needs only remove enough aluminum to get at the steel, or if the bike is worth enough cut the bike rack and deal with the lock at leisure, so it's very cuttable. you dont chop a tree just straight on, right? same as with this lock; cut a wedge out of the aluminum then uncover the steel shackle
@@Komainu959 I do like the LPL. However this case. I was trained in the Army to pick locks and hot wire cars. Nothing like being paid to learn a skill. I stand by my original comment.
@@jaytrock3217 LPL actually just picked this. And while the actual pick didn't take him long he had to actually make his own custom one off tool to do so. So sure, there are people skilled enough to pick it. And there are people knowledgeable to make their own custom tool to do so. The odds someone walking down the street or a thief being able to. Almost zero. At that point said their will just go steal an easier target - and that's the job of a good lock. To protect your property. And to add emphasis. My comment wasn't directed at your ability to pick it in a minute. That's why I stated "average thief" can. There are lots of talented and skillful people out there.
The downside is that the shackle is made of 2 parts, which means you don't have to get all the way through, you just have to take chunks out of it at a time
ANY bike lock can eventually be defeated. The point of this one is that it is such a ridiculous amount of work that it is faster to cut the hollow bike rack it is locked to.
The thing about this is that most thieves would be smart enough to remove the guard and put a bigger blade on it. That's what I did when I couldn't get through the entire exhaust pipe on my truck. 🤷♂️ Obviously a thief isn't worried about safety. They're worried about getting out of there ASAP. So putting a bigger blade on there isn't out of the question.
Hey JC, We designed the SAF Lock to be resistant to the 5 inch (125mm) cutting wheel because it is the most common size used with battery-powered angle grinders and the easiest to carry. So why not remove the guard and put a larger wheel on? Even if you take the guard off, the bigger wheels are rated for a lower RPM. Yes, portable grinders for these larger wheels exist, but they are not used by bike thieves because they are much harder to carry unseen. Currently, a 5 inch grinder cuts any bike lock in seconds, except for the SAF Lock. Our philosophy is to make the thief move on to an easier target.
Hi Shaun, Thieves are looking for the easiest opportunity to steal a bike and not get caught. If a thief chooses to cut the bike instead, they can only resell it for parts and they’ve lost their getaway vehicle. They use angle grinders to cut a bike lock in seconds and be gone. A thief can NOT cut the SAF Lock so easily. Our philosophy is to make the thief move on to an easier target. Why make less money and risk getting caught carrying or pushing a cut bike when they can just find an easier bike to steal?
@@chriscs9080 150$ seems low when it is hard to get a new bike for less that $300. Regardless the SAF Lock is not an average bike lock. It is 13.2 pounds of metal crafted with advanced manufacturing processes. If you want angle grinder resistance an $80 U-Lock will last seconds against an angle grinder. The SAF Lock will last over 40 minutes in our test using multiple angle grinder, discs, and batteries.
the guy's random cutting added a lot of unproductive time. it IS grinder resistant, but not worth $300. it is a visual deterrent because it looks beefy. 5mm more steel in the shackle without that aluminum would be just as secure
Aluminum damages grinder blades really fast and the only way to certainly make a lock resist a angle grinder is by making the lock as thick as possible. As to whether or not it is worth 300$ idk.
Just for shits and giggles, I'd like someone to show a heavy-duty, petrol powered angle grinder that can actually cut the lock, something like a Makita EK6100 with a 12 inch blade.
Hi Michael, Thieves are looking for the easiest opportunity to steal a bike and not get caught. If a thief chooses to cut the bike instead, they can only resell it for parts and they’ve lost their getaway vehicle. They use angle grinders to cut a bike lock in seconds and be gone. A thief can NOT cut the SAF Lock so easily. Our philosophy is to make the thief move on to an easier target. Why make less money and risk getting caught carrying or pushing a cut bike when they can just find an easier bike to steal?
Here's an idea ...use a ever so slight bigger disc you know like using the right tool for the right job. If your so pretentious you need a lock that size to compensate for something....It's 250$ for a lock that you can't exactly bring with you, so needles to day at that price your going to be locking up something well over 1000$ which I hate to say if your locking it up out side someones just going to come with a 6" disc and go threw that weak shackle in seconds. All this demonstration did was mislead people that you can actually use a grinder, and that this useless thing is worth 250$.
Because the overwhelming majority of bike thieves...its about speed and ease. If they see this, they will just move onto something else. That's the entire point. No lock, no matter how big or good, can stop a determined thief from 100% of attacks, it's bout minimising the chance as much as possible. This achieves that. The amount of effort and planning required is way too much effort for the average thief.
Hi Darren, We designed the SAF Lock to be resistant to the 5 inch (125mm) cutting wheel because it is the most common size used with battery-powered angle grinders and the easiest to carry. Larger wheels are rated for a lower RPM than the speed that these commonly used grinders spin. Yes, portable grinders for these larger wheels exist, but they are not used by bike thieves because they are much harder to carry unseen. Currently, a 5 inch grinder cuts any bike lock in seconds, except for the SAF Lock. Our philosophy is to make the thief move on to an easier target.
I have seen some experimental lock sleeve made of aluminum with tiny ceramic balls composition the test have angle grinder disk badly damaged by the ceramic balls and the bolt cutter having ceramic balls dangerously exploding when it's been compress.
Can't wait to see Lock Picking Lawyer pick this in 15 seconds.
ua-cam.com/video/ixPFDFp8Cfo/v-deo.html
With a custom tool he had to make! Great lock and LPL approved!
@@kevinprice2274 oddly enough, I commented on this vid 8 months ago and completely forgot that I did when that was posted by LPL. I guess his vid generated renewed interest in this vid and someone commented on my comment, reminding me that I posted here lol
Why is there no sound?
My guess, microphone wouldn't have picked it up properly anyways and we would not have liked the sound. I'm kind of glad they didn't throw a music track over it too.
@@bigfirepop whoa. I forgot I posted this. Ironically, someone comments on my comment shortly after LPL made a vid about this lock. 🤔🤷♂️👍
@@JC-11111 ayyyyyyyyyyyy 👍
I would hate to loose the keys or have a key break off and get jammed.
Wouldn't it be quicker to make a couple of long vertical cuts in the what looks like an aluminium shell, to cut out a large rectangular section to make plenty of clearance for the grinder gearbox? Also maybe attack the lock tube section instead of the bit with the hardened shackle in it? Would definitely help if you got someone competent with an angle grinder.
I was expecting the hollow spaces in the soft metal shell to be filled with something like carborundum powder set in resin, to wear hacksaw blades and cutting discs, or beads containing a two part instant adhesive, disappointingly it is not.
You try it then bitch, show us how a “competent” person does it
he doesnt push in one spot much he literally fakes his pressing in
Lock Picking Lawyer will pick this in his sleep, but still it looks tough though just what I am looking for how much does it cost?
He tried to pick it and turns out u need a special tool made only by someone in the UK.
Hey Chris,
Check out what LPL/Lockpicking Lawyer had to say - ua-cam.com/video/ixPFDFp8Cfo/v-deo.html
I bet it isnt lockpickinglawyer proof
My thought exactly 😁
Shaun Ober same
ua-cam.com/video/ixPFDFp8Cfo/v-deo.html
The truth of the matter is, a thief with an angle grinder wouldn’t even attempt to cut this open. So that brings up an interesting thought. They should make a similar looking lock that looks beefy but is essentially a lighter weight hollow tube and maybe a standard u-lock inside of it. It’ll be a lot lighter and still look undefeatable. They’ll just cut the bike rack anyway.
Dangerous One,
We agree, thieves are looking for the easiest opportunity to steal a bike and not get caught. Cutting the bike rack, would take longer than cutting any bike lock that is not a SAF Lock. This is why they use angle grinders to cut a bike lock in seconds and be gone. The SAF Lock both discourages and resists attack, making your bike the hardest bike to steal and an unlikely target next to bikes with less secure locks.
now that it's know to be only a 14mm shackle inside, one needs only remove enough aluminum to get at the steel, or if the bike is worth enough cut the bike rack and deal with the lock at leisure, so it's very cuttable. you dont chop a tree just straight on, right? same as with this lock; cut a wedge out of the aluminum then uncover the steel shackle
What type of lock is it? If it is a round cylinder with a 35 dollar tool you can pick in less than a minute.
Abloy profile knock off. Exceedingly hard to pick regardless.
Just because you've seen LPL pick something that fast doesn't mean your average thief can.
@@Komainu959 I do like the LPL. However this case. I was trained in the Army to pick locks and hot wire cars. Nothing like being paid to learn a skill. I stand by my original comment.
@@jaytrock3217 LPL actually just picked this. And while the actual pick didn't take him long he had to actually make his own custom one off tool to do so.
So sure, there are people skilled enough to pick it. And there are people knowledgeable to make their own custom tool to do so. The odds someone walking down the street or a thief being able to. Almost zero. At that point said their will just go steal an easier target - and that's the job of a good lock. To protect your property.
And to add emphasis. My comment wasn't directed at your ability to pick it in a minute. That's why I stated "average thief" can. There are lots of talented and skillful people out there.
@@Komainu959 Thanks for sharing. Notice my comment was 8 months ago. Have a good one, keep it legal.
Has this guy ever held an angle grinder before?
What if he cut's around the light grey part??
why are you using a different angle grinder in this video than the others?
MTB Scotland,
We test our locks with a variety of angle grinder models to ensure they can stand up against whichever model a thief chooses.
The downside is that the shackle is made of 2 parts, which means you don't have to get all the way through, you just have to take chunks out of it at a time
ANY bike lock can eventually be defeated. The point of this one is that it is such a ridiculous amount of work that it is faster to cut the hollow bike rack it is locked to.
@@leolandleo I know that, wait, make a lock out if nokia phones, big brain move
You'd think after 30 minutes of this he'd get better at using the angle grinder... but no, no, he still sucks.
Craig Blanton you make a video cutting the lock.
@@bluemagmaboy9842 Iam pretty sure nobady gonna buy a 300 Dollar Lock just to proof some dumbass, that he doesnt suck at using an Angle grinder.
😂🤣
The thing about this is that most thieves would be smart enough to remove the guard and put a bigger blade on it. That's what I did when I couldn't get through the entire exhaust pipe on my truck. 🤷♂️
Obviously a thief isn't worried about safety. They're worried about getting out of there ASAP. So putting a bigger blade on there isn't out of the question.
Hey JC,
We designed the SAF Lock to be resistant to the 5 inch (125mm) cutting wheel because it is the most common size used with battery-powered angle grinders and the easiest to carry. So why not remove the guard and put a larger wheel on? Even if you take the guard off, the bigger wheels are rated for a lower RPM. Yes, portable grinders for these larger wheels exist, but they are not used by bike thieves because they are much harder to carry unseen. Currently, a 5 inch grinder cuts any bike lock in seconds, except for the SAF Lock. Our philosophy is to make the thief move on to an easier target.
It would be easier to cut the bike itself and steal the lock instead of the bike.
Be quicker to cut the hollow pipe or bike
Hi Shaun,
Thieves are looking for the easiest opportunity to steal a bike and not get caught. If a thief chooses to cut the bike instead, they can only resell it for parts and they’ve lost their getaway vehicle. They use angle grinders to cut a bike lock in seconds and be gone. A thief can NOT cut the SAF Lock so easily. Our philosophy is to make the thief move on to an easier target. Why make less money and risk getting caught carrying or pushing a cut bike when they can just find an easier bike to steal?
@@altorlocks yes but the lock costs 300$? the average bike costs about 150$ lol
@@chriscs9080 150$ seems low when it is hard to get a new bike for less that $300. Regardless the SAF Lock is not an average bike lock. It is 13.2 pounds of metal crafted with advanced manufacturing processes. If you want angle grinder resistance an $80 U-Lock will last seconds against an angle grinder. The SAF Lock will last over 40 minutes in our test using multiple angle grinder, discs, and batteries.
Epic lock!
the guy's random cutting added a lot of unproductive time. it IS grinder resistant, but not worth $300. it is a visual deterrent because it looks beefy. 5mm more steel in the shackle without that aluminum would be just as secure
Aluminum damages grinder blades really fast and the only way to certainly make a lock resist a angle grinder is by making the lock as thick as possible. As to whether or not it is worth 300$ idk.
Just for shits and giggles, I'd like someone to show a heavy-duty, petrol powered angle grinder that can actually cut the lock, something like a Makita EK6100 with a 12 inch blade.
A milwaukee M18 portable bandsaw will slice it right off
Cut the bracket instead, 10 seconds....
Hi Michael,
Thieves are looking for the easiest opportunity to steal a bike and not get caught. If a thief chooses to cut the bike instead, they can only resell it for parts and they’ve lost their getaway vehicle. They use angle grinders to cut a bike lock in seconds and be gone. A thief can NOT cut the SAF Lock so easily. Our philosophy is to make the thief move on to an easier target. Why make less money and risk getting caught carrying or pushing a cut bike when they can just find an easier bike to steal?
This the age when drug fiending thieves will have no choice but the face the toughest consequences of drug withdrawal symptoms Lol!
Here's an idea ...use a ever so slight bigger disc you know like using the right tool for the right job. If your so pretentious you need a lock that size to compensate for something....It's 250$ for a lock that you can't exactly bring with you, so needles to day at that price your going to be locking up something well over 1000$ which I hate to say if your locking it up out side someones just going to come with a 6" disc and go threw that weak shackle in seconds. All this demonstration did was mislead people that you can actually use a grinder, and that this useless thing is worth 250$.
Because the overwhelming majority of bike thieves...its about speed and ease.
If they see this, they will just move onto something else. That's the entire point.
No lock, no matter how big or good, can stop a determined thief from 100% of attacks, it's bout minimising the chance as much as possible.
This achieves that. The amount of effort and planning required is way too much effort for the average thief.
Hi Darren,
We designed the SAF Lock to be resistant to the 5 inch (125mm) cutting wheel because it is the most common size used with battery-powered angle grinders and the easiest to carry. Larger wheels are rated for a lower RPM than the speed that these commonly used grinders spin. Yes, portable grinders for these larger wheels exist, but they are not used by bike thieves because they are much harder to carry unseen. Currently, a 5 inch grinder cuts any bike lock in seconds, except for the SAF Lock. Our philosophy is to make the thief move on to an easier target.
u can just cut the frame of the bike lol
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Fake, I had it open in 40 seconde