@@mathewhaight The reason for that was because Mainframe (who animated both Beast shows) lost the head for Prime's model and used Primal's BW S1 head as a quick replacement.
It all makes sense now! That head always seemed out of place, yet oddly familiar. Thanks! And I have to agree: the original optimus head somehow looked worse...
3:31 the only disappointing thing about the conversation between Optimus Primal and Optimus Prime was that they didn’t get Peter Cullen to Reprise his Role as Optimus Prime.
@@brandonvortex995 Most probably. What’s funny though is the statue of Prime at the start of the video had the Head they were looking for. So they must have lost it while working on S2.
@bri55118, but in delete screen, the original wheeljack die body wasn't supposed to be there. Instead, the smokescreen die body was apparent, but it was deleted
My first thought when I saw that Megatron had conquered Cybertron was how did he get there before Optimus Primal and the others? It must have been a quirk of Transwarp Drive
It's because the transwarp drive travels in both time and space When megatron escape he was stuck in distant past Meanwhile the maximal were still heading to the future so megatron had time to get to cybertron and Conquer it they arrived
Man, Beast Machines was so cool with the stuff it brought back. If only it translated the main characters a little better, it could've been just as good - if not better than Beast Wars
When they showed Vector Sigma, I thought that they would reference how it was used in Season 2 of The Transformers on how it gave life to The Ariealbots and Stunticons.
If we consider the Japanese continuity Galvatron froze and Scorponok died in Headmasters and Super-God Masterforce respectively, Rodimus became a Micromaster, Galvatron became Super Megatron, but Super Megatron got disassembled and died again. (Check Tfwiki for more information)
there were plans of making an sequel of Beast Machines when the show ended that being Transformers Transtech in which old g1 characters like optimus prime and starscream would have returned to meet the remaining maximals on the now terraformed cybertron and the return of autobots and decepticons too but sadly the show was only in concept stage and didn't see the light of the day
But since the Beast Shows were recorded in Canada, it wouldn’t have been possible to have Peter Cullen to voice Optimus unless remote voice acting was invented in the 90s.
In Nightscream's flashback I could tell that a bunch of those bots either looked like Soundwave or Prowl but those 2 bots walking together looked like Transmetal II Dinobot without his shoulder armor, that red one looked like Transmetal Tarantulas without his spider legs or shoulder pads, and that one guy who disappeared in the flash of light looked like Rattrap's first body
The last part with Primal talking to what he thought was a holographic tribute to his ancestor, is what I imagine Nero meeting Sparda himself would be like. With the new Legendary Devil Hunter asking his late grandfather(the Legendary Dark Knight) for guidance. Guidance of what it means to be a hero, even though they are just Demons? Especially what it means to be a father, who knows how to protect his family. Since Sparda failed to protect his, despite being dead, which got his wife killed by Mundus’s minions. And Dante & Vergil becoming orphans, who were force to fight for their father’s powers.
What a good metaphor for beast machines blowing up the franchise and it’s continuity 0:18 noooooo they massacred all the g1 autobots they really are evil 0:48 yes destroy this organic crap rhinox 2:13
I may not have much nostalgia for G1 like how I did with my other faves like Beast Wars,Prime,Rescue Bots,RID 2001,Armada,Cybertron, and Animated but even tho' I always thought the G1 cameos in Beast Wars were abit better imo? I guess these Beast Machines G1 cameos aren't too bad lol. Then again, like the Terrorcons such as Battle Ravage and Divebomb etc. and the Minicons being my favorite parts about my 2 guilty pleasures of Transformers, Energon and RID 2015? while I'm also neutral over Beast Machines, I did think the Vehicons are pretty cool tho', atleast maybe in the BM toyline since I think Thrust and Tankor are my favorites.
I already really like BM, but it would be nicer if the relations between maximals weren't so much ,,raaaa saasssyy grrrr I am an a-hole grrr" so often It was weird when they seemed to have gotten better but the next episode they are slightly more mean to eachother T_T Regarding to designs, I agree but just the maximal ones probably (and some of megatron's) Edit: aaand I just got reminded of the maximal personalities in general
@@humangirl2122 the 'ell you on about.... Silverbolt went from a selfless hero to a 2000s emo edgelord, Primal went from a dutiful leader to a religious fanatic, Rhinox went from a friendly guy to a psycho villian and Megatron went from a fantastic mob boss to a organic hating cleanfreak(in robot terms)
@@BadVideo_Man Well, I know all those thing's happen but, Silverbolt still loved Blackarachnia and Rhinox realize his mistake's when he died and Megatron still failed! Making Cybertron Techno-organic was the only save it!
Imma be real, I never liked Beast Machines because of it's art style, and half the time, the battles were so choppy, I couldn't bring myself to finish another episode, but Beast Wars, goated
No worries, I mean I thought the Vehicons were the cool part about Beast Machines since I think Thrust is probably my favorite one imo but opinion handled tho' as I also loved Beast Wars too, so it's all good👌
@@bmadgnashteeth maybe in the Japanese timeline when they got hit by virus and their memories got permanently scrambled thinking they are Mexican stereotypes maximals.
I loved Beast Wars but hated this show so much. Another “oh Optimus prime is the best”…even with G1/G2 I never understood why people liked the lame ass autobots and especially him. They were so fucking boring. The decepticons at least were interesting turned into much cooler things (guns, weapons, jets, construction vehicles, etc.). When I rewatch the original series I skip over all the human and autobot scenes. The only good thing about this show was that overall Megatron was winning from the beginning.
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"My essence brought here after the final battle".
Optimus, in this continuity alone you've died like four times.
the optimus hologram using primal's head makes sense when you remember it was made as a trap by megatron.
That key to vector sigma is very impressive and I love tankor jet and thrust
2:42 Megatron won that argument. Primal even questioned himself at that time. To bad that hasn't been countered.
A singular mind is venerable to bias' and fallacies, other minds are meant to balance out these traits.
mfw soundwave literally dies
Lol
Soundblaster maybe?
@@davidm4566 New Soundwave!
Fun fact: G1 Optimus' hologram uses 96 Optimus Primal's head.
Oh ya. That is a really weird idea. I figured they would have just used the model they had in season 3 of beast wars.
@@mathewhaight The reason for that was because Mainframe (who animated both Beast shows) lost the head for Prime's model and used Primal's BW S1 head as a quick replacement.
@@RichardHunslet1963 how the heck they lost a head of the optimus prime model? did it get deleted by accident or something?
@@RichardHunslet1963somehow that head makes the body look better
It all makes sense now! That head always seemed out of place, yet oddly familiar.
Thanks!
And I have to agree: the original optimus head somehow looked worse...
3:31 the only disappointing thing about the conversation between Optimus Primal and Optimus Prime was that they didn’t get Peter Cullen to Reprise his Role as Optimus Prime.
Then again it does sound like Gary Chalk’s version of Optimus Prime he would use in a couple years
I just noticed the hologram of optimus prime uses og primal's head with the mouthplate.
now I cannot unsee it.
the production crew must have lost it during hard drive cleaning or something
They accidentally lost the model of Prime’s head from S3 of Beast Wars so they used Primal’s from S1 of BW to replace it.
@@aaroneclipse514 I'm guessing someone inside the studio doing some hard drive clean up and accidentally deleted the head model
@@brandonvortex995 Most probably. What’s funny though is the statue of Prime at the start of the video had the Head they were looking for. So they must have lost it while working on S2.
0:46 Smokescreen head
That’s actually prowl’s head. If you look at the corpse of the prowl model you can tell it’s the same head
Smokescreen has this helmet chin thing
might be silverstreak in blue and grey colorscheme
If the series followed the g1 cartoon, then that is most likely bluestreak's head. Prowl was killed in the movie, and bluestreak's fate wasn't shown.
@bri55118, but in delete screen, the original wheeljack die body wasn't supposed to be there. Instead, the smokescreen die body was apparent, but it was deleted
Wow, so many epic G1 references. I don't remember Optimus Primal and Nightscream traveling to Iacon though.
I AM NOT INFERIOR!
You now.
Oops. I forgot to include the Plasma Energy Chamber
G1 version: forge the original transformers Bodies
Beast era: master control power source.
Both have different designs.
They did prime dirty in this
My first thought when I saw that Megatron had conquered Cybertron was how did he get there before Optimus Primal and the others? It must have been a quirk of Transwarp Drive
Transwarp here reminds me of the Planet of the Apes from around 2000.
You can exit it at one time but arrive earlier. A lit of timely wimey stuff.
It's because the transwarp drive travels in both time and space
When megatron escape he was stuck in distant past Meanwhile the maximal were still heading to the future so megatron had time to get to cybertron and Conquer it they arrived
Man, Beast Machines was so cool with the stuff it brought back. If only it translated the main characters a little better, it could've been just as good - if not better than Beast Wars
Kinda surprised they didn't make more unique G1 models, considering how blocky they are compared to the Beast Machines characters.
Budget limitations plus they seriously overdesigned the main cast for beast machines
These are blocky compared to even G1
@@ilyte1guess they were aiming for even more awards.
They reusing leftover models from beast wars and some unused models since they don't have enough money for it
Yeah, I really meant less "new models" and more mix-and-mqrching parts from various models
When they showed Vector Sigma, I thought that they would reference how it was used in Season 2 of The Transformers on how it gave life to The Ariealbots and Stunticons.
I wonder what ever happened to Optimus and Galvatron.
In the comic "Dawn of Predacus" they both died in battle. The comic takes place during the end of the great war.
@@NightNight202and hot rod and ultra magnus?
@@zeta5330 no one knows
Prime was gonna return in TRANSTEACH
If we consider the Japanese continuity Galvatron froze and Scorponok died in Headmasters and Super-God Masterforce respectively, Rodimus became a Micromaster, Galvatron became Super Megatron, but Super Megatron got disassembled and died again. (Check Tfwiki for more information)
I give credit to the Vehicons and Predacon Megatron that they even have respect towards Optimus Prime
TBH, id love a modern remake of the beast wars shows with modern technology. Like a remaster for old albums.
Keep the same voices and just replace the animation.
@@davidm4566 but while keeping most of the style imo
there were plans of making an sequel of Beast Machines when the show ended that being Transformers Transtech in which old g1 characters like optimus prime and starscream would have returned to meet the remaining maximals on the now terraformed cybertron and the return of autobots and decepticons too but sadly the show was only in concept stage and didn't see the light of the day
I still like Beast Wars but fair enough.
Huh, all this time I thought the first Optimus Prime that Gary Chalk voiced was in Armada, but nope, t'was actually in Beast Machines
And before that, Beast Wars.
@@bmadgnashteeth Yeah, but that's Optimus PRIMAL, not Prime
I suppose that also means (for a brief moment) it was also David Kaye's first time in the role too.
3:31 I'm sure millions of fans would have loved it if Peter Cullen came back to do the voice of hologram Prime.
But since the Beast Shows were recorded in Canada, it wouldn’t have been possible to have Peter Cullen to voice Optimus unless remote voice acting was invented in the 90s.
In Nightscream's flashback I could tell that a bunch of those bots either looked like Soundwave or Prowl but those 2 bots walking together looked like Transmetal II Dinobot without his shoulder armor, that red one looked like Transmetal Tarantulas without his spider legs or shoulder pads, and that one guy who disappeared in the flash of light looked like Rattrap's first body
The last part with Primal talking to what he thought was a holographic tribute to his ancestor, is what I imagine Nero meeting Sparda himself would be like. With the new Legendary Devil Hunter asking his late grandfather(the Legendary Dark Knight) for guidance. Guidance of what it means to be a hero, even though they are just Demons? Especially what it means to be a father, who knows how to protect his family. Since Sparda failed to protect his, despite being dead, which got his wife killed by Mundus’s minions. And Dante & Vergil becoming orphans, who were force to fight for their father’s powers.
Not the first place I’d guess to find a DMC connection, but cool to read nonetheless.
beast machines g1 sweeps
Soundwave sacrificed himself for another life
What a good metaphor for beast machines blowing up the franchise and it’s continuity 0:18 noooooo they massacred all the g1 autobots they really are evil 0:48 yes destroy this organic crap rhinox 2:13
beast machines g1 smokescreen
I wish they revealed where the Autobot Matrix of Leadership was?
Probably no more
@@arnelanat3578There were 2 actual Maximal primes in Japanese Beast Wars, Lio Convoy(Prime) and Big Convoy(Prime)
Man I love Beast Machines soundtrack...
I wish there was a playlist of pure it...
They just released a new album consisting of some of the show's music. It's available to watch on UA-cam. 7/10 playlist.
@@bmadgnashteeth yooo thank you so much for letting me know :D
The last time I was looking for it, I couldn't find it
@@yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3 it's on spotify too
I forgot hownugly this show was, yet to their credit they were very experimental and were really trying.
I unintentionally watched this at 2x speed and thought the producers were on some steppa shit
Weird to think that all these Cybertronians are about a quarter of the size the average ones were in the original series
Although Gary Chalk is alright as Optimus Prime, Peter Cullen is still the best.
Hes better as Prime in the Unicron trilogy
Wow, self-centered much? lol.
I may not have much nostalgia for G1 like how I did with my other faves like Beast Wars,Prime,Rescue Bots,RID 2001,Armada,Cybertron, and Animated but even tho' I always thought the G1 cameos in Beast Wars were abit better imo? I guess these Beast Machines G1 cameos aren't too bad lol.
Then again, like the Terrorcons such as Battle Ravage and Divebomb etc. and the Minicons being my favorite parts about my 2 guilty pleasures of Transformers, Energon and RID 2015? while I'm also neutral over Beast Machines, I did think the Vehicons are pretty cool tho', atleast maybe in the BM toyline since I think Thrust and Tankor are my favorites.
0:29 is that a seeker?
Probably
I'd like Beast Machines if the designs weren't...that. It had some cool ideas and callbacks though.
I already really like BM, but it would be nicer if the relations between maximals weren't so much ,,raaaa saasssyy grrrr I am an a-hole grrr" so often
It was weird when they seemed to have gotten better but the next episode they are slightly more mean to eachother T_T
Regarding to designs, I agree but just the maximal ones probably (and some of megatron's)
Edit: aaand I just got reminded of the maximal personalities in general
Fair, tho' I actually thought the Vehicons look cool in the toyline since I think Thrust is probably my favorite lol.
beast machines g1 ironhide and ratchet
Beast Machines completely ruined Primal, Silverbolt, Rhinox, and Megatron!
And Rattrap.
Dude went from 2nd in command to bumbling sidekick.
...
Least he has a girlfriend now though
NO IT DIDN'T!
@@gorvarhadgarson5227 RATTRAP WAS NOT RUINED! HE BECAME A GENIUS!
@@humangirl2122 the 'ell you on about.... Silverbolt went from a selfless hero to a 2000s emo edgelord, Primal went from a dutiful leader to a religious fanatic, Rhinox went from a friendly guy to a psycho villian and Megatron went from a fantastic mob boss to a organic hating cleanfreak(in robot terms)
@@BadVideo_Man Well, I know all those thing's happen but, Silverbolt still loved Blackarachnia and Rhinox realize his mistake's when he died and Megatron still failed! Making Cybertron Techno-organic was the only save it!
Imagine you and your friends come home from war and find out wveryone else has turned into mind controlled zombie slaves drones.
Funny how Obsidian and Strika are supposed to greatest generals of G1, yet no one has ever heard of them til BM. 😆
Where was Prime during all of this?
I'm pretty sure he died before the events of Beast Wars, let alone Beast Machines.
@@bmadgnashteeth 3 centuries ago to be exact.
Plus they aren’t back yet from earth
Like beast wars comes after g1 and even G1 is in another universe and beast wars take place on the B.Cs
Well another timeline
@@Megamus643AlphaofLife Beast Machines takes place on Cybertorn miliards of years in future.
I hear Sigma.
💀💀
Plus Predacon Megatron altered history before the war for Cybertron and Earth.
beast machines g1 jazz
Imma be real, I never liked Beast Machines because of it's art style, and half the time, the battles were so choppy, I couldn't bring myself to finish another episode, but Beast Wars, goated
No worries, I mean I thought the Vehicons were the cool part about Beast Machines since I think Thrust is probably my favorite one imo but opinion handled tho' as I also loved Beast Wars too, so it's all good👌
wait so what happened after rodimus prime
What about Rominus Prime?
How does Vector Sigma tie into G1?
It made its debut in that series.
@@bmadgnashteeth I don't remember...
@@stephenbyrne2170 You can look it up.
It appeared in these episodes ua-cam.com/video/SAn3Z1Q6lZY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/QLTSas9_j18/v-deo.html
@@stephenbyrne2170 there was a whole episode about the Key to Vector Sigma (I think that even was what the Episode was named after) in Season 2 of G1
HAs anyone else leen the smokescreen head?
God, these designs look horrible. Specifically 3:14.
What did happen to the original g1 cast during the beast era
i liked tankor/rhinox in this show
beast machines g1 arcee and springer
Where?
@@kiryugaming7523 must be given the truth!!
Beast machines g1 sisters female autobots
STOP SPAMMING FFS!!!!
1:44 vector sigma.😂
Whatever happen to the tripredicus council
@@leo11lim We can assume Megatron got to them
@@bmadgnashteeth maybe in the Japanese timeline when they got hit by virus and their memories got permanently scrambled thinking they are Mexican stereotypes maximals.
Who's at 0:26?
A background character really.
Frenzywave.
@@_V.Va_ they didn’t have mouth plates though. I’m wondering if the poster thinks it’s Blaster
Of course nightscream is a decendend of soundwave
Ah yes. It's just reboot.
Each generics Transfomers
So they don't transform they morph and cybertron is now called organitron.
How is this related to G1?
Beast machines. The sequel nobody wanted or asked for.
To me this series does not exist.
This sequel is perfect! Saying that Beast Machines does not exist to you is just like saying the American Revolution doesn't exist to you!
not gonna lie the final season design ain't my favorite and i feel like they're first season designs did better
Is this cannon with beast wars?
Absolutely
Yes it is!
Yuup
They could AI to revised/revamp/remaster this CGI.
I don't think AI would be necessary.
@@bmadgnashteeth why ?
@@caiolimacaldas It depends. If we're talking official movie/series projects, I'd prefer to have real people working on the CGI.
@@bmadgnashteeth it would take too long.
AI is cringe.
240p ahh show💀
Keep in mind the prequel of the show was the 2nd ever animated show, it still keeps up
1:58
Upgrade? You mean down grade.
Nope.
The Animation is still way better than Energon
I loved Beast Wars but hated this show so much. Another “oh Optimus prime is the best”…even with G1/G2 I never understood why people liked the lame ass autobots and especially him. They were so fucking boring. The decepticons at least were interesting turned into much cooler things (guns, weapons, jets, construction vehicles, etc.). When I rewatch the original series I skip over all the human and autobot scenes. The only good thing about this show was that overall Megatron was winning from the beginning.
How dare you
Everything you say is wrong! Beast Machines is perfect and it was just fine the way it was!
@@humangirl2122 Nope
@@kiryugaming7523 You have my backing.
@@oddguy5356 Thanks