As a horse owner, I am thrilled to see such an excellent quality of riders. These are people who understand horses and horsemanship, and it shows. Thanks for sharing this.
As a 15th century war of the roses reenactor, it is for me a window in to Richard the thirds charge to try an end the Battle of Bosworth early. He charged with his own small group of knights. The armour is totally late 15th century.
Ride in plate armor against the enemies? As the great King Conan once said: "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."? ;)
Trust me, it was! Being infantry there, we got a few chances to get charged by cavalry - definitely an experience to remember. Worth keeping up with the content to see when footage of cavalry on infantry content is released.
The only way to survive a cavalry charge Is hold position and don't run away ,if some run the other follow and they are all death because horses are Faster and if they take you from behind no chance to survive
@@eugenioderose6628you also need to be a bit lucky. Good cavalryman can charge home even if you hold your ground, especially if they have barding. And that’s if they hit you from the front.
If I have a pointy stick with me longer then theirs I got nothing to be afraid of. I bet my money on horsy will refuse to run at my pike and impale itself.
@@siekensou77 In the Polish/Lithuanian Winged Hussars outfits the participants had often been training since they were 7 years old or even less and had the best armour and weapons money could buy at the time. It is said the horsemanship was so good two hussars could gallop side by side and not drop a coin between the two riders so tight was the formation. What we see in recreations is poor in comparison to the real thing at the time as the horses were also a special breed and to sell one outside the Commonwealth resulted in the death penalty to anyone who did so. Horses today cannot recreate the scenes as they are not specially bred or trained for such combat like the horses of the era. Stand in any field and hear 10-20 horses at a full gallop coming towards you and it is easy to imagine the enemy of the day fleeing on the battlefield when more than 100+ Hussars are charging towards them. You cannot teach or practise the bravery needed to stand your ground against such forces when to do so meant certain death. Only when weaponry and tactics made direct charges into an infantry unit impossible did these glorious Hussars become obsolete. I heard somewhere that their armour was tested and proven to withstand the musket shots at the time. The rider would feel a small thud on the body but little else so could continue riding at a gallop toward a standing infantry line. Poor infantryman. And great job by the riders for giving a small look at how a formation would look like. Even experienced horsemen can not match those Hussars who were trained from childhood to ride in tight formation so great job by the horsemen in the clip.
So far, this is largest and realest cavalry charge brought to reality by the 15th Century living history community. As you said, Hollywood take notes! Not only is it possible but the attention to detail gives the depth and feeling no amount of epic music can fabricate. Seeing it in person was an awe-inspiring experience. Come to the next Feldlarger and see it for yourself?
Is it famous Metatron from Italie/ US . Btw this IS reenacting of 1410 Tannenberg / Grunwald battle. Poland - Lithuanie (with Ruthenie) vs Chevaliers Teutoniques and their allies
As a big fan of medieval history, I always wondered why exactly cavalry charges were so impactful on the battlefield when they seemed to be so easily countered by spear/pike walls. It was mentioned in a documentary I recently watched that the biggest effect was often psychological (hence the term "shock" cavalry). I wasn't totally convinced but thought "Sure, I guess that made sense." As a photographer, I do a lot of high school grad sessions over the summer, and my name was tossed around a local equestrian club for senior photos. It wasn't until I had ONE horse trot by me for action shots that I truly understood just how intimidating it could be. They're massive, powerful animals. I had to fight the urge to move out of the way with a single horse trotting 6 feet off to the side of me. I can't even imagine what it would feel like to stare down a hundred of them, fully armored, sprinting directly towards you.
They aren't easily countered with spears. Pikes - yes, but pikes become popular only towards late middle ages, and they were in fact one of major factors why shock cavalry stopped being dominant force. As for spears - the thing is, for a spear formation to effectively stop cavalry charge in the suitable terrain it requires front rows to be pretty much suicidally disciplined. And we know it's not gonna happen. And while it's also dangerous for the riders to charge onto spears, its not nearly as dangerous, and they have far larger chance of survival than their enemies. So it's just easier for them.
Actually pikes can be fenced with and displaced by the knights with their lances. You can literally fish them up with a cavazione motion and deflect them upwards and sideways. And your buddies can do the same. You can get three or four pikes with a single lance, thus creating gaps you can ride into. Then the second and third line of cavalry can stab the infantry while the first line is busy riding forward and parrying away more incoming pikes. Let's not forget that pike bloks weren't usually that deep. Maybe three ranks at most. They were big squares yes, but they were hollow with other troops inside, like gunners, halbardiers or even cavalry.
Theh certainly are a intimidating sight! Even when you know they are not aiming on killing you they still strike awe and fear with the sheer movement of all those bodies and steel all at once
this was about 36 riders, most charges in the 15th century tend to be about 300-2000 riders. Later charges get MUCH larger, with up to 17000 riders in some extremely large attacks. So i suppose the countercharge on the lancastrian flanking maneuvre at Tewkesbury was only about 10 times as large as this, yet decided that battle to a very large degree.
people are impressed this was possible at all, weapons, armor and horses arent exactly everywhere nowadays, combine that with training on the people and horses, the fact that this video exists is an achievement@@nm425
Imagine what this must sound like. Imagine this sound with 10 times this many men and horses in a real battle. It must've been an incredible but terrifying sound
In real life it’s actually not very noisy. I’ve seen a number of re-enactor/ movie charges on horseback and it’s much quieter than you’d imagine. If two opponents actually came to contact things might be very different.
the bells... so many bells.... sounds a bit like a christmas sled convention. this is about a re-enforced squadron, squadrons in the 15th century tended to be 20-25 riders, sometimes re-enforced by another 25 'coustilliers'. Many battlefield charges were done with multiple squadrons put together to make a battlefield unit. we read of anywhere from 300 (battle of Tewkesbury, for instance) to 2000 riders in one unit. Nevertheless many raids and feudal wars had smaller units operating. Operating 1-2 squadrons is a known phenomena. Here we were aiming for a feudal ... well.. feud... and there having 36 riders is not that off. it is definately on the low side. But the ratio of 3-4 infantery per 1 cavalry is about as low as it gets in medieval europe. (roughly the equivalent of the Reichsaufgebot troops marching to Neuß) the burgundian army had 2/3s mounted and 1/3 meant to fight mounted... of the ordinance, anyway... the feudal levies were more cavalry than that and the city militias more infantry.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 That said, the Winged Hussars' wings were intentionally designed to make noise as they closed in at a gallop. It frightened the enemy and their horses.
@@bellgrand - I’m sorry to say that’s simply not true. There have been numerous reconstructions and experiments and the wings simply don’t make a noise. They are frightening to look at, especially for horses 🐴, which can get spooked by things they don’t understand.
it is usually easier to do so, and especially at the end the engagement is easier. there is, of course, plenty of uphill charges in history, famously in Hastings a whole bunch, but perhaps more interesting for the sake of argument the uphill charges at the battle of Neuß that were the lion share of the fighting before the rout set in. Both sides charged uphill and the Burgundians were quite effective in taking the hillock overlooking the German camp.but there are many many more examples. Speed is not that much suffering, despite this being quite a substantial slope. The speed is primarily a factor in reducing the number of shots and being a tricker target to hit. In the impetous of the engagment of the enemy formation the formation desity matters, but also the commitment of the horse stride and the ability to use the forces of the horses. So sometimes slower is actually more forcefull. also in this area the only two choices were uphill or downhill... there was just no flat ground at all. the downhill charge is really more problematic with this amount of slope. Up until some degree you can gallop downhill but these slopes are really tricky. This is quite different in other parts of Europe where sometimes there is no slope around that steep for hundreds of miles (like Norhtern france or Belgium has large tracks with , at most, really shallow gradients.) A downhill charge on a more gradual slope is quite a different matter. all the cav vs cav charges were uphill vs downhill in this event, and without fail the uphill won. Better coordination, better impetous, better sight, better control over the enemies lance in the engagement, fencing with the weapons, better hitting (and harder), horses much better on the riders' aids, and so forth.
holy cow! I trained as ground guy with some cavalryman and I can say: having only 2 horses charge at u is terrifying (they were trying to get as close to me as possible,1 horse left, one right, as close as possible... imagining not 2 but 50 horses trying to kill you... insane
Wow, this was amazing. Imagine Hernan Cortes, Sandoval, Ordaz, Alvarado, Olid and the gang charging the aztecs in 1519. They should create a movie or tv series about these events. Cortes only had 16 horses, but it was enough to shatter hundreds or even thousands of native americans. The equipment of the Conquistadores was quite similar to this video. Unlike the popular image we all have of them (based on pop culture and media), the real spanish adventurers that took part in the expeditions in the early 1500's hade a more "medieval" look to them. More akin to the 1400's, like in this video. No morion helmets - instead, lots of sallets, cabasetes and kettle helmets. ⚔️🐎
Wish we could have heard that thunderous charge without the music. I remember being at a polo match amazed at the sound of the horses running up and down the field
The horses will slow down by themselves, generally. Unless the one in front suddenly stops (which is really hard to do when you have other horses behind) and the guy in the back is not paying attention.
This is 34 km/h across 231 meters of distance, up a 15% slope (though in places more) We have gone up to 37 km/h in the full bards and armour. That is coincidentally the top speed of usaine Bolt on a flat course. We filmed this from a quad following us on a track, and that needed to work to keep the speed. It is much faster than it sounds
This is very nice video. Im stunned! Good work for everyone! (sorry, I just returned from concert Lord of The Rings) in middle Europe - Czech Republic) :) Good lick )
Just imagine the cost of all this, full plate armor is like 10-15k USD the weapons and extra gear like 5k USD, horse itself I hear is relatively cheap sometimes the price of a dog but the upkeep is expensive AF... And that's just one man. This scene costed a fortune! Now imagine this multiplied like 20-fold back in the day.
That's correct, we did a rough estimate in the days after and the scene was somewhere around $3,000,000 everything all totalled not to mention the man hours unpaid for in passion and dedication to make, train and upkeep everything. It's all of these converging factors and that they were in the one place at the same time that makes this a miraculous event
i think we tried on one of the two takes, these shots are cut together so the actual chronological sequence might be a little misleading. i don't know how much you would be able to tell, though, as the terrain gradually became steeper and there is not that much reference in the shot We probably went from about 30km/h to about 35 km/h or so in this one. But that is a guess on how it felt, we might be able to tell you later what it was exactly. These two charges were about 200 meters long or so, this is still quite far for medieval standards, whereas later charge ranges increased to about 700 meters around 1900AD. A bow can low an arrow to aobut 180m, but just trotting at that range probably means the entire unit is out of the beating zone by the time the arrows land, from about 100 m we are seeing far more probability of hit and an increase of speed makes it much fewer impacts again in the approach. the actual interaction with the enemy formation being charged was more important to the men-at-arms at the time: cohesion and inertia of the whole formation was impportant, so loosening the formation for speed was less interesting, and a slightly slower charge with good coordination might be more succesfull, especially as the armour allows oyu to take a few arrow hits and probably simply shake them off due to the armour.
Thank goodness, there was a transcript of this 2023 event, as the title looked like click bait. It would be interesting to note whether there was riders from the UK as we do quite a bit of re-enactment. Very impressive to put 36 knights on horseback in full armour.
Do you guys do any American reenactments? There was a battle in the American civil war that had almost 20,000 horses involved. I believe that is the world's largest Calvary fight to date.
There are most certainly cavalry events with larger charges. The unique thing with this event is the numbers for a 15th century charge and the majority of riders in high quality full plate armour
I mean, the battle of Vienna has a charge of ~18 000 cavalrymen straight into the Ottomans army. The charge was led by 3000 Winged Hussars. Imagine 18000 horsemen charging at you with reckless abandon just to lift the ongoing siege on Vienna. And again, those 18000 horses were a single side of the battle here. Also, fun side note, but Tolkien apparently used that event as inspiration for the battle of the Pelenor fields(or the charge of the Rohirrims)
@@sarahdale9968 imagine the American civil war with twenty thousand horses called The Battle of Bradley station it happened in eighteen sixty-three and it's the largest u.s. Calvary battle ever.
@@Darth_Traitorous Yes, I am familiar with the battle, the American Civil War had some of my favourite military engagements. The battle of Brandy Station was the single largest cavalry battle on American soil, with some 11000 cavalrymen on the Union side vs some 9500 on the Confederate side. IIRC that battle was the one that firmly anchored the Union's cavalry dominance for the rest of the Civil War
Is there a version where you can hear them? I always have read the sound of incoming lancers was the scariest sound on earth for centuries but afaik there is no living memory of such a thing unless we create it like this.
Yes, explicitly so. There are sources which talk about the second line reaching with their lances in front of the horses' heads in the line in front of them. There is another video with gopro footage of the combat we did, you see the wearer of the camera actually attack across a friendly horse and hit an enemy armoured rider in the armpit with his lance (primary target to bypass the armour historically)
Needs more barding, in the 1500s the first row would have to be barded as they would take the brunt of enemy fire. lighter cavalry of poorer, less well equipped riders would follow the first charge to exploit the gap in the front lines. This widened the gap, fully rupturing the enemy line leading them to rout or be cut to pieces. But in order to create the first gap the charge had to be hammered home hence the barding, one fallen horse could disrupt the charge, rendering it inert so only the best, most well equipped knights had the honor of riding in this first wave.
and here is me being extactic of having three full bards on horses! :D The amount of barding seems to have historically been very variable. Mostly it was on or off, in that the engagement needs to be prepared more to put the horses into bardings. the logisitics if the bard are avaialable that is. having said that, in the Burgundian wars we do see a lot of bards depicted, in the schilling chronicle etc, but rarels the whole front rank. Slightly later copies of these chronicles start showing them more widespread, but those were actually draw in the early 1500s. the French in 1470 still usually show large bodies of riders with just a few barded horses,usually about 4-6 max. (Outremer chronicles) in terms of descriptions, at Vreneuil we soecifically read about the italian cavalry not being hurt by the impacts of the arrows, and specifically both horse and rider. This probably means that many of the first rank of the Italians had bards. in the Italian inventory material they crop up earliest, most and most widespread. So there seems to be a regional distinction. this is just under 10% of all the horses in this group having full bards. Getting those together was quite the endeavour i can tell you
It would've been amazing to include the sound! It was glorious. The main problem here was that there was a quad bike as well, so we will need to do some audio work to get the proper sound
The infamous Leonardo da Vinci's Quad bike, bane of XV century dirt roads... It is always hard to get good sound capture in a live environment. I've seen a 12 horses charge and the distance at which the noise start to hit your ears is so impressive; I can only imagine someone waiting for the impact, the long seconds of thundering hooves getting louder and louder @@IronCrownWorkshop
Without the quad the video would not have been possible because of the angle. But also the bells on the bardings make it sound like a jingle bell sleigh, as those bells are historically accurate
As a horse owner, I am thrilled to see such an excellent quality of riders. These are people who understand horses and horsemanship, and it shows. Thanks for sharing this.
As a 15th century war of the roses reenactor, it is for me a window in to Richard the thirds charge to try an end the Battle of Bosworth early. He charged with his own small group of knights. The armour is totally late 15th century.
And you can stab them with a pike!
riding in armor is not thaat hard but seeing where your buddy goes xD i didnt hit shit the first 50 to 80 lancecharges on the roland
they made me practice in full summerheat complete gear with helmet and visir down
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@@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded Amén! +IC XC NIKA
Ride in plate armor against the enemies? As the great King Conan once said: "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."? ;)
It's actually true
Imagine being an infantry man and watch those horses come at you. Scary as hell!!
Trust me, it was! Being infantry there, we got a few chances to get charged by cavalry - definitely an experience to remember. Worth keeping up with the content to see when footage of cavalry on infantry content is released.
The only way to survive a cavalry charge Is hold position and don't run away ,if some run the other follow and they are all death because horses are Faster and if they take you from behind no chance to survive
"Protect me, pokey stick!"
@@eugenioderose6628you also need to be a bit lucky. Good cavalryman can charge home even if you hold your ground, especially if they have barding. And that’s if they hit you from the front.
If I have a pointy stick with me longer then theirs I got nothing to be afraid of. I bet my money on horsy will refuse to run at my pike and impale itself.
Wow! Looks great and it was a great experience to take part in this.
were there formation calls and such? would have been nice to hear those is you had then during
Yes there were and particularly during the battle (not shown here yet)
@@siekensou77 In the Polish/Lithuanian Winged Hussars outfits the participants had often been training since they were 7 years old or even less and had the best armour and weapons money could buy at the time.
It is said the horsemanship was so good two hussars could gallop side by side and not drop a coin between the two riders so tight was the formation. What we see in recreations is poor in comparison to the real thing at the time as the horses were also a special breed and to sell one outside the Commonwealth resulted in the death penalty to anyone who did so. Horses today cannot recreate the scenes as they are not specially bred or trained for such combat like the horses of the era.
Stand in any field and hear 10-20 horses at a full gallop coming towards you and it is easy to imagine the enemy of the day fleeing on the battlefield when more than 100+ Hussars are charging towards them.
You cannot teach or practise the bravery needed to stand your ground against such forces when to do so meant certain death. Only when weaponry and tactics made direct charges into an infantry unit impossible did these glorious Hussars become obsolete.
I heard somewhere that their armour was tested and proven to withstand the musket shots at the time. The rider would feel a small thud on the body but little else so could continue riding at a gallop toward a standing infantry line. Poor infantryman.
And great job by the riders for giving a small look at how a formation would look like. Even experienced horsemen can not match those Hussars who were trained from childhood to ride in tight formation so great job by the horsemen in the clip.
Exceptional. Truly
It was a awe inspiring spectacle to behold in person
So far, this is largest and realest cavalry charge brought to reality by the 15th Century living history community. As you said, Hollywood take notes! Not only is it possible but the attention to detail gives the depth and feeling no amount of epic music can fabricate. Seeing it in person was an awe-inspiring experience.
Come to the next Feldlarger and see it for yourself?
Nice seing celebraties in comments. love your contet (Both of you)
Is it famous Metatron from Italie/ US . Btw this IS reenacting of 1410 Tannenberg / Grunwald battle. Poland - Lithuanie (with Ruthenie) vs Chevaliers Teutoniques and their allies
1410 15th July
So incredibly impressive! If I only was 20 years younger... I'd love to be with you all. Very very thrilling, that attack. Thanks for sharing!
It would have been an honor to have you ride with us again Wolfgang!
that is high praise from you, my dear friend and riding master.
If only I was 40 years younger....
It almost seemed like the horses were proud as well. Especially the few in front...very majestic. Magnificent to all of you.
As a big fan of medieval history, I always wondered why exactly cavalry charges were so impactful on the battlefield when they seemed to be so easily countered by spear/pike walls. It was mentioned in a documentary I recently watched that the biggest effect was often psychological (hence the term "shock" cavalry). I wasn't totally convinced but thought "Sure, I guess that made sense."
As a photographer, I do a lot of high school grad sessions over the summer, and my name was tossed around a local equestrian club for senior photos. It wasn't until I had ONE horse trot by me for action shots that I truly understood just how intimidating it could be. They're massive, powerful animals. I had to fight the urge to move out of the way with a single horse trotting 6 feet off to the side of me. I can't even imagine what it would feel like to stare down a hundred of them, fully armored, sprinting directly towards you.
They aren't easily countered with spears. Pikes - yes, but pikes become popular only towards late middle ages, and they were in fact one of major factors why shock cavalry stopped being dominant force.
As for spears - the thing is, for a spear formation to effectively stop cavalry charge in the suitable terrain it requires front rows to be pretty much suicidally disciplined. And we know it's not gonna happen. And while it's also dangerous for the riders to charge onto spears, its not nearly as dangerous, and they have far larger chance of survival than their enemies. So it's just easier for them.
Actually pikes can be fenced with and displaced by the knights with their lances. You can literally fish them up with a cavazione motion and deflect them upwards and sideways. And your buddies can do the same. You can get three or four pikes with a single lance, thus creating gaps you can ride into. Then the second and third line of cavalry can stab the infantry while the first line is busy riding forward and parrying away more incoming pikes. Let's not forget that pike bloks weren't usually that deep. Maybe three ranks at most. They were big squares yes, but they were hollow with other troops inside, like gunners, halbardiers or even cavalry.
Theh certainly are a intimidating sight! Even when you know they are not aiming on killing you they still strike awe and fear with the sheer movement of all those bodies and steel all at once
Think that a warhorse was much bigger and heavier than those in the film.
@@valeriobrayda3375 No, they are about the right size. Actually, some of the horses in the video are bigger than a medieval warhorse would have been.
Absolutely outstanding.
Quality horsemanship & Quality armour.
Really cool. Awesome footage and even better looking guys on horses. Love it. And I am starting to think about doing something in 15th century, too!
You are homo?
This alone is quite impressive
And just think about it that a battle might be ten to hundred times that many horses
this was about 36 riders, most charges in the 15th century tend to be about 300-2000 riders.
Later charges get MUCH larger, with up to 17000 riders in some extremely large attacks.
So i suppose the countercharge on the lancastrian flanking maneuvre at Tewkesbury was only about 10 times as large as this, yet decided that battle to a very large degree.
I just don’t get all the positive feedback on this. There is no discernible battle formation at all
@@nm425 The very obvious two lines they form just went over your head huh? Have you ever considered breathing with your nose?
people are impressed this was possible at all, weapons, armor and horses arent exactly everywhere nowadays, combine that with training on the people and horses, the fact that this video exists is an achievement@@nm425
Takes SOME strength to handle the lances and BOY those men are sexy as hell in armour , close fitting steel armour , they look absolutely phenomenal!
@@AzathothTheGreat for me it is the fetish of bondage that holds me. The suiting up in a steel suit all fitted to one of those guys is very erotic .
I don't want to ruin your day but a lot of these guys are actually ladies in armour ;)
@@peterspatling3151, "E le chiome dorate al vento sparse, giovane donna in mezzo il campo apparse" Lodovico Ariosto - "Gerusalemme Liberata".
Awesome! Made me goosebumps! Love it
Connor did a really good job filming this! :)
Thanks man
Hmm 🤔you guys are the part of this show?
Great work, and a lot more ahead! Saddles, horse plates, blinders, charge speed.
I’m from America and may I say this was just stunning!
Happy to be a part of this 😊
Imagine what this must sound like.
Imagine this sound with 10 times this many men and horses in a real battle. It must've been an incredible but terrifying sound
In real life it’s actually not very noisy. I’ve seen a number of re-enactor/ movie charges on horseback and it’s much quieter than you’d imagine. If two opponents actually came to contact things might be very different.
you haven't seen 800 persons on horses charging, so i am not buying your comment,@@sirrathersplendid4825
the bells... so many bells....
sounds a bit like a christmas sled convention.
this is about a re-enforced squadron, squadrons in the 15th century tended to be 20-25 riders, sometimes re-enforced by another 25 'coustilliers'.
Many battlefield charges were done with multiple squadrons put together to make a battlefield unit.
we read of anywhere from 300 (battle of Tewkesbury, for instance) to 2000 riders in one unit. Nevertheless many raids and feudal wars had smaller units operating. Operating 1-2 squadrons is a known phenomena.
Here we were aiming for a feudal ... well.. feud...
and there having 36 riders is not that off. it is definately on the low side. But the ratio of 3-4 infantery per 1 cavalry is about as low as it gets in medieval europe. (roughly the equivalent of the Reichsaufgebot troops marching to Neuß)
the burgundian army had 2/3s mounted and 1/3 meant to fight mounted... of the ordinance, anyway... the feudal levies were more cavalry than that and the city militias more infantry.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 That said, the Winged Hussars' wings were intentionally designed to make noise as they closed in at a gallop. It frightened the enemy and their horses.
@@bellgrand - I’m sorry to say that’s simply not true. There have been numerous reconstructions and experiments and the wings simply don’t make a noise. They are frightening to look at, especially for horses 🐴, which can get spooked by things they don’t understand.
Now just imagine like 5000+ of these... holy moly that would be terrifying.
Right!
Just showed your video to Terri. Blew his mind. What an absolutely incredible adventure. 😊
AMAZING Spectacle! Now imagine a troop of lances in medieval times almost knee to knee barreling down towards your rank and file!
Exactly, just a glimpse but a very good glimpse into what it must have been like
This is the best thing I've seen in a while
ah yes, the classic and super effect uphill charge!
it is usually easier to do so, and especially at the end the engagement is easier.
there is, of course, plenty of uphill charges in history, famously in Hastings a whole bunch, but perhaps more interesting for the sake of argument the uphill charges at the battle of Neuß that were the lion share of the fighting before the rout set in. Both sides charged uphill and the Burgundians were quite effective in taking the hillock overlooking the German camp.but there are many many more examples.
Speed is not that much suffering, despite this being quite a substantial slope. The speed is primarily a factor in reducing the number of shots and being a tricker target to hit.
In the impetous of the engagment of the enemy formation the formation desity matters, but also the commitment of the horse stride and the ability to use the forces of the horses. So sometimes slower is actually more forcefull.
also in this area the only two choices were uphill or downhill... there was just no flat ground at all.
the downhill charge is really more problematic with this amount of slope. Up until some degree you can gallop downhill but these slopes are really tricky.
This is quite different in other parts of Europe where sometimes there is no slope around that steep for hundreds of miles (like Norhtern france or Belgium has large tracks with , at most, really shallow gradients.)
A downhill charge on a more gradual slope is quite a different matter.
all the cav vs cav charges were uphill vs downhill in this event, and without fail the uphill won. Better coordination, better impetous, better sight, better control over the enemies lance in the engagement, fencing with the weapons, better hitting (and harder), horses much better on the riders' aids, and so forth.
holy cow! I trained as ground guy with some cavalryman and I can say: having only 2 horses charge at u is terrifying (they were trying to get as close to me as possible,1 horse left, one right, as close as possible... imagining not 2 but 50 horses trying to kill you... insane
That is awesome!
Filmed very well!
For one, brief, shining moment
Looked beautiful
Metatron audience incoming....
Maybe😂
Is there an issue because of that?
@@G_Flash84625 Only if you don't like pizza.
@@thetruth45678 I love pizza ^.^
@@G_Flash84625 But do you put pineapples on said pizza?
Very cool guys!
FOR SIGMAR!
What a glorious sight
This is epic. Was Toby there as well? I spotted Arne
He certainly was! In the front line too
@@IronCrownWorkshopWas he on the horse with the tan barding? And Is that Jason Kingsley with the long hair?
@@Jim58223 Toby is in the second line on a dun horse with black leather trappings. The rider with long hair is Dario Cattaneo. Jason was not there.
I was riding the horse with the leather barding. Toby was behind me i think.
@@LukeDelBinkey Awesome. Is this held every year? Can anyone come to view it? Thanks
stunning
Amazing that this video from the 15th Century is in colour, I was expecting it to be black & white!
I'm not going to lie. That was awesome.
absolutely stunning
Holy Moly!
Wow, this was amazing. Imagine Hernan Cortes, Sandoval, Ordaz, Alvarado, Olid and the gang charging the aztecs in 1519.
They should create a movie or tv series about these events.
Cortes only had 16 horses, but it was enough to shatter hundreds or even thousands of native americans.
The equipment of the Conquistadores was quite similar to this video. Unlike the popular image we all have of them (based on pop culture and media), the real spanish adventurers that took part in the expeditions in the early 1500's hade a more "medieval" look to them. More akin to the 1400's, like in this video.
No morion helmets - instead, lots of sallets, cabasetes and kettle helmets. ⚔️🐎
No interest in guys who commited genocite.
@@DilophoMSshut up, red
i actually prefer to see another battles with much more cavalry , not just 16 lol that's some western style shit
(y soy español asi que..)
Ale ja tam widzę chorągiew z orłem polskich Piastów... a zbroje z końca XVI wieku
Wish we could have heard that thunderous charge without the music. I remember being at a polo match amazed at the sound of the horses running up and down the field
looking forward to more!
I saw there a lot of work and effort.❤
I play a lot of Total War. Brings a tear to my eye to see the real thing
Most impressive. Lovely camerawork.
I really like when they recreate this old things.
This is something you do with your absolute best friends.
This is the coolest thing I have ever seen
Se ve impresionante 👏
Imagínense en su lugar a cientos o miles de jinetes, puro espectáculo.
What a sight that must've been to behold!
It certainly was. Awe inspiring is an understatement
Thanks!
Very cool!
I can only imagine the skill necessary to be a knight back then. Truly an elite.
In a real calvary charge, how do they prevent the guys in the second row from accidentally lancing the backs of the guys in front?
The horses will slow down by themselves, generally. Unless the one in front suddenly stops (which is really hard to do when you have other horses behind) and the guy in the back is not paying attention.
@@JosefGustovc What about when the front rank impacts the enemy? Won't it be a very sudden stop?
@@silverchairsg No they would plow through the infantry, shoving bodies to the sides of the horse and/or just trampling them.
schön umgesetzt 👍
Bloody good 👍 love it
Beautiful! 😍
This is what I’d like to see in Historical epics !
So would we!
Damn, they really had some really good quality cameras already in the 15th century.
Is there a version without the music and with Audio?
Love to attend one of these days! You lads did well and served the Kaiser well!
is the charging speed historically accurate? Could you have galloped faster?
This is 34 km/h across 231 meters of distance, up a 15% slope (though in places more)
We have gone up to 37 km/h in the full bards and armour.
That is coincidentally the top speed of usaine Bolt on a flat course.
We filmed this from a quad following us on a track, and that needed to work to keep the speed.
It is much faster than it sounds
How do the horses and riders get out of the way from the lances of the knights behind them?
Perfect bro
For Honor! For the Lady!
This is very nice video. Im stunned! Good work for everyone! (sorry, I just returned from concert Lord of The Rings) in middle Europe - Czech Republic) :) Good lick )
Amazing!
Awesome
props to the guy filming this back in 1400
Just imagine the cost of all this, full plate armor is like 10-15k USD the weapons and extra gear like 5k USD, horse itself I hear is relatively cheap sometimes the price of a dog but the upkeep is expensive AF... And that's just one man. This scene costed a fortune! Now imagine this multiplied like 20-fold back in the day.
That's correct, we did a rough estimate in the days after and the scene was somewhere around $3,000,000 everything all totalled not to mention the man hours unpaid for in passion and dedication to make, train and upkeep everything. It's all of these converging factors and that they were in the one place at the same time that makes this a miraculous event
Thought this was awesome, but it would have been cool to see a sharp increase in speed at the end.
i think we tried on one of the two takes, these shots are cut together so the actual chronological sequence might be a little misleading.
i don't know how much you would be able to tell, though, as the terrain gradually became steeper and there is not that much reference in the shot
We probably went from about 30km/h to about 35 km/h or so in this one. But that is a guess on how it felt, we might be able to tell you later what it was exactly.
These two charges were about 200 meters long or so, this is still quite far for medieval standards, whereas later charge ranges increased to about 700 meters around 1900AD.
A bow can low an arrow to aobut 180m, but just trotting at that range probably means the entire unit is out of the beating zone by the time the arrows land, from about 100 m we are seeing far more probability of hit and an increase of speed makes it much fewer impacts again in the approach.
the actual interaction with the enemy formation being charged was more important to the men-at-arms at the time: cohesion and inertia of the whole formation was impportant, so loosening the formation for speed was less interesting, and a slightly slower charge with good coordination might be more succesfull, especially as the armour allows oyu to take a few arrow hits and probably simply shake them off due to the armour.
Gee, thanks for eliminating the most important thing in a cavalry charge: the sound.
Really cool
Thank goodness, there was a transcript of this 2023 event, as the title looked like click bait. It would be interesting to note whether there was riders from the UK as we do quite a bit of re-enactment. Very impressive to put 36 knights on horseback in full armour.
Dr Capwell is riding in this group. Others were invited but were not able to attend. There were a few more Brits in the infantry formations.
their commander needs to be reprimanded. They are totally disorganized.
Ride now!
Ride for ruin
And the world’s ending
DEATH
DEATH
DEATH!!!
If only we could edit it copyright free... not on YT at least
Awesome! Would love to hear the sound of the horses and the armor though
epic!
Where and when can I see something like this????, I'm packing my bags
Thats badass
Amazing, I could imagine having horses to get use to armor and noise of a gang would cost great attention
Do you guys do any American reenactments? There was a battle in the American civil war that had almost 20,000 horses involved. I believe that is the world's largest Calvary fight to date.
There are most certainly cavalry events with larger charges. The unique thing with this event is the numbers for a 15th century charge and the majority of riders in high quality full plate armour
Holy hell! 20 000.
I mean, the battle of Vienna has a charge of ~18 000 cavalrymen straight into the Ottomans army.
The charge was led by 3000 Winged Hussars.
Imagine 18000 horsemen charging at you with reckless abandon just to lift the ongoing siege on Vienna.
And again, those 18000 horses were a single side of the battle here.
Also, fun side note, but Tolkien apparently used that event as inspiration for the battle of the Pelenor fields(or the charge of the Rohirrims)
@@sarahdale9968 imagine the American civil war with twenty thousand horses called The Battle of Bradley station it happened in eighteen sixty-three and it's the largest u.s. Calvary battle ever.
@@Darth_Traitorous Yes, I am familiar with the battle, the American Civil War had some of my favourite military engagements. The battle of Brandy Station was the single largest cavalry battle on American soil, with some 11000 cavalrymen on the Union side vs some 9500 on the Confederate side. IIRC that battle was the one that firmly anchored the Union's cavalry dominance for the rest of the Civil War
Wow, thats a cool Total war teaser
Das ist ja mal stark. Sowas sieht man selten.👍
EPIC!
I love this
Awesome :)
As a Pole, can anybody tell more about that white eagle on red background banner? Who's was it? We polish, love white eagles ;)
polish contingent riding in the second line
@@airnt Its battle of Grunwald? Kingdom of Poland vs Teutonic Order??
Gr8 job
For the Emperor! & The Roman Empire!
Is there a version where you can hear them? I always have read the sound of incoming lancers was the scariest sound on earth for centuries but afaik there is no living memory of such a thing unless we create it like this.
Are the 2nd and 3rd line supposed to lower their spears? What if the previous knight has to stop or brake?
This is an excellent question for the cavalry experts who are lurking here
Yes, explicitly so.
There are sources which talk about the second line reaching with their lances in front of the horses' heads in the line in front of them.
There is another video with gopro footage of the combat we did, you see the wearer of the camera actually attack across a friendly horse and hit an enemy armoured rider in the armpit with his lance (primary target to bypass the armour historically)
Needs more barding, in the 1500s the first row would have to be barded as they would take the brunt of enemy fire. lighter cavalry of poorer, less well equipped riders would follow the first charge to exploit the gap in the front lines. This widened the gap, fully rupturing the enemy line leading them to rout or be cut to pieces. But in order to create the first gap the charge had to be hammered home hence the barding, one fallen horse could disrupt the charge, rendering it inert so only the best, most well equipped knights had the honor of riding in this first wave.
and here is me being extactic of having three full bards on horses! :D
The amount of barding seems to have historically been very variable. Mostly it was on or off, in that the engagement needs to be prepared more to put the horses into bardings.
the logisitics if the bard are avaialable that is.
having said that, in the Burgundian wars we do see a lot of bards depicted, in the schilling chronicle etc, but rarels the whole front rank.
Slightly later copies of these chronicles start showing them more widespread, but those were actually draw in the early 1500s.
the French in 1470 still usually show large bodies of riders with just a few barded horses,usually about 4-6 max. (Outremer chronicles)
in terms of descriptions, at Vreneuil we soecifically read about the italian cavalry not being hurt by the impacts of the arrows, and specifically both horse and rider. This probably means that many of the first rank of the Italians had bards.
in the Italian inventory material they crop up earliest, most and most widespread. So there seems to be a regional distinction.
this is just under 10% of all the horses in this group having full bards. Getting those together was quite the endeavour i can tell you
Man that was so cool to watch, great video. May i ask, is the Red eagle flag Polish or just Crusader themed flag? 👍
Polish. No crusaders in the XVth century.
@@JosefGustovc Teutonic Order was still around. But yeah thx for the Info 👍
Actually it was a banner of Duchy of Mazovia - that’s why the eagle has no crown.
BTW I carried it myself 😊
@@maxgried That is legit awesome. How did it feel, did you feel like a Knight? I'm sorry, it's just so cool😆
This is just Tuesday in New Zealand
I could hear the horses saying, "Hold me back! Hold me back!".
Horses got genetic flashbacks
Great! On an event terrain it would've looked even cooler :)
They would have brought more, but the tapestry was only so wide.
Largest clash in that time was 1410 battle of Grunwald .100 000 cavalery and infantry at once.
Where did you get these numbers from? Lol.
О боже мой! Как это красиво! Вы такие молодцы :D
Nice video.
Next time, try and get the sound of the charge. The mass of the charging line is impressive, but had the noise and it is frightening.
It would've been amazing to include the sound! It was glorious. The main problem here was that there was a quad bike as well, so we will need to do some audio work to get the proper sound
The infamous Leonardo da Vinci's Quad bike, bane of XV century dirt roads...
It is always hard to get good sound capture in a live environment.
I've seen a 12 horses charge and the distance at which the noise start to hit your ears is so impressive; I can only imagine someone waiting for the impact, the long seconds of thundering hooves getting louder and louder @@IronCrownWorkshop
Without the quad the video would not have been possible because of the angle.
But also the bells on the bardings make it sound like a jingle bell sleigh, as those bells are historically accurate