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@@МихаилШкирман-й6нI'm an American too and I assume the judge couldn't make sense of the very INTENSE St. Petersburg style here and preferred the floaty, romantic G&G instead. This program is a masterpiece.
It is now 2024.. I still remember this program by heart. Years later , I visualize this program as one that will always be remembered . This one touched my heart and soul. I can only say that about 2 or 3 programs I have viewed in my life. What artistry!!
G&G and M&D both deserved gold at the Lillehammer Olympics. The straight-line step sequence in M&D's program is a work of art. Actually, the entire program is a work of art. Just sublime.
Agreed! G&G were excellent as always but their program here felt a little flat by comparison to this one--which was so intense it was like a screaming, throwing-things lovers quarrel on ice.
G&G and M&D were so far and away better than any other pair teams in history that if ever there were two golds this should have been it. Sergei and Artur were best friends and they just pushed each other to be better and better.
By far the greatest pieces in pair figure skating of all time, back in Albertville you had the sensation he was superior in many ways, but not here, here they were equals, both given in completely, strong technically and artistically. If I had to decide I would have given them the GOLD.
господи. КАК ЖЕ ЭТО КРУТО!!! сколько лет уже смотрю ФК, ни одна программа на моей памяти не была такой свежей, яркой, динамичной, катание обалденное. сейчас так никто не катается, никто такие интересные элементы не показывает!!!
Agree. There is not a single skater out there that I am interested in viewing . This pair was the best. They were not afraid to push the envelope , and yet their skills and artistry remained stellar.
With my heart, this is the very best artistic expression of the angst and beauty of the romantic area of Rachmaninoff. The play of the positive and negative energy between the skaters , in addition to the outstanding choreography made for an emotional experience. Flawless skating was a bonus.
Никто так не катается сейчас. Надежный партннер,необычные поддержки,много мелких наикрасивейших элементов,аплодировать начинают не дожидаясь окончания танца. Восторг.
Наши ЛУЧШИЕ и это не обсуждается, потому что это так и есть на самом деле. Техника высший класс, артистизм просто зашкаливает, костюмы классные. Молодцы!!!! Браво!!!!
THANK YOU for posting in HD! Hands down, the passion of this performance should have easily won GOLD. Their interpretation of this fantastic Rachmaninoff concerto was exceptional! Can't argue G&G's performance to Beethoven's sonata, vintage G&G but my vote goes to M&D!
I agree, they should have won gold in 1994. Love G&G, but in Lillehammer they made two mistakes in the Free Skate, yet the judges didn't seem to care. Mishkutienok & Dmitriev's artistry was superior as well, yet their artistic impression scores were lower too. This Rachmaninoff program is probably my favorite of all time in pairs skating. So dramatic and unique.
I disagree. G & G were more polished overall - with more technical perfection in the lifts and throws. I will grant you it was close- and a valid claim can be made for M&D, but in my book - and in the opinion of the judges and many other experts - the correct team won gold.
I agree, although it took me a while to get there. The speed, subtle grace of movement, incredible unison and superlative pairs skills set G & G apart for all time, single jump from Sergei notwithstanding. Not sure what the other faux pas was.
I felt their performance had more technical difficulty as well as artistic expression and I was disappointed for them. They said it was the difference between passion and perfection, but I felt I saw more mistakes in the program that won.
Wonderful, just wonderful. And Artur sure could rock a pair of tights. Sadly the ISU outlawed tights for men a year or two after this, saying that the males should not appear as to resemble ballet dancers. Not sure if this silly rule still stands.
They were stolen big time ! It had soul, full of emotions and it was epic ! Deserved the gold hands down. Gordieva Grinkov were perfect by the book but it was dull and so classical. Almost 20 years after I still got the chills watching this.
I agree, they should have done something like their sp for the free skate because their moonlight sonata was very dull, it was just about their love story
Absolutely. When I watch Arthur and Natalia, I see power and innovation expressed with beauty, drama, and speed. Watching G&G was like watching a training video for perfecting pair skating elements . You appreciated the perfection--although we all know that their Olympic free routine had an obvious errors-- but at the same time you were hoping for something new. I think everyone--including the judges--were carried away by their love story, and that tipped the scales in their favor.
Мне тогда было очень жаль, что они золото не получили. Они были лучше Гордеевой Гринькова. Их выступления до сих пор пересматриваю с огромным удовольствием. Очень интересные и сложные программы. А вот, при всём уважении к Кате и Сергею, их мне пересматривать не хочется. Они более стандартные, что ли.
@@Irinasky Вы просто фанаты Сергея и Кати, никто не оспаривает их уникальность, но в Лиллехамере золото заслуживали именно Мишкутёнок и Дмитриев, элементов сложных больше, гибкости, скорость ни чем не уступает, да и артистичность лучше! Бывает что судьи зацикливаются только на одних и субъективизм начинает преобладать!
Totally agree. I liked Gordeeva and Grinkov but I truly believe that this performance by Natalia Mishkutenok & Artur Dmitriev's performance was way better and more deserving of Gold. Mishkutenok & Dmitriev's passion, artistry, and flexibility oozes in all their performances. They captured my full attention ever since I saw their performance during the 1992 Albertville Olympic.
Tal They had a great performance but I think it’s a personal preference. They are more athletic and maybe edgy. Where as G and G in my opinion skated as one. Sergei and Katia skated with beautiful, deliberate and graceful movements. Almost like ballet on ice. There was a love story played out in each performance but even for a male skater Sergei who was a tall athletic man was as graceful as Katia.
Agree! They were so beautiful... I remember in the US commentary, Scott Hamilton kept rambling about passion vs perfection and he was so obviously in G&G’s camp... I think the judges judged their off-ice turmoil instead of the performance.
Ужас! За технику ставить 5,6??? И за артистизм 5, 7? Этих арбитров гнать, почему не подали протест, идеально чисто откатали , синхронно, великолепная пп, прекрасная пара , красивая❤👏👏👏👏
Вы сам штангист, и видите их! Штангисты поднимают штанги а фигуристы катают программу, и вы не арбитр чтобы судить, работаете где- то в каменоломнях с кувалдой!
Удивительно! Как эта программа могла проиграть программе Гордеевой и Гринькова? Это намного сложнее и насыщеннее того, что показали победители (плюс ошибка в каскаде)
@@Blazhevino Всегда казалось что Гриньков с Гордеевой переоценены судьями. Артура с Натальей можно пересматривать постоянно, их катание нисколько не потеряло своей оригинальности и свежести, несмотря на годы
I can see how they lost. They were sloppier overall. Their individual elements compared to Gordeeva and Grinkov’s weren’t as well executed. I would have been fine if M&D won, they did have the skate of their lives, but I can understand why G&G won. Their twist, spirals, lifts connecting elements were simply better than M&D’s.
Катаются, словно лес рубят). Штангисты) Куда им до Кати и Сергея). Уже одна улыбка этой пары топит лед в сердцах людей.. Фигуристы могут делать сложнейшие элементы без помарок, но НИКОГДА не достигнут уровня, очарования и любви зрителей Кати и Сергея).
Жаь, что в те вреиена не было ср\овременного судейства: никогда бы у низ не выигралиГордеева-Гриньковс теми ошибками, что допустили в произвольной. Проще говоря у них украли чемпионские медали.
I always respected them as skaters but wow, what a clunky move at 4:08. Its lack of fluidity even made Artur stumble on the step sequence immediately after it.
A igualdad de perfección en el programa, esta actuación tenía más épica, más drama que GG. Y cuantos más años pasan más claro me parece que el orden correcto era oro para MD y plata para GG. El moonlight sonata era perfecto, clásico, impecable y hasta más empátici para ka mayoría del público...pero este programa ha envejecido mejor, tenía algo especial que lo hacía más singular, más espiritual.
Does anyone know the name of the music they skated to? I've heard it before, and from 2:55 to 3:17 is the exact melody and chord progression of Eric Carmen's "All By Myself". You can hear it if you sing in your head: I never needed anyone / and making love was just for fun / those days are gone. I wonder if Eric was inspired by this piece to write, All By Myself.
@@skatefan9495 Yes, I discovered that later. He also ripped off another classical melody for his song, Never Gonna Fall in Love Again (also Rchmaninoff, I believe), and he has to give credit to the composer and royalties to his estate for both those songs. Just crazy.
M&D thinks they got robbed? why than did the Russian judge only give them a 5.8 ...if you think thats graceful get glasses..and she bumps into him coming down from a jump...and he is out there skating like he has to attack something..i swear he was drunk or stoned......the whole program he was choppy. and came to a complete stop when he threw her that is a lack of control...they should only have gotten the bronze.....
I don't like the choreography of this team. Maybe they were athletic, but there was just no passion, no connection between these two. It was all just business and that shows to the audience. A lot of flailing around. Yes some nice moves, but interesting one's. Mishk. was always so serious. She never smiled, which didn't help. Don't like those silly costumes. In the end, she just brutally juts into him. He seems to be surprised as well.
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Гениальный прокат учеников Тамары Николаевны Москвиной, мощно и артистично, судья из США ставит за технику 5.6-вот судейская обьетивность
@@МихаилШкирман-й6нI'm an American too and I assume the judge couldn't make sense of the very INTENSE St. Petersburg style here and preferred the floaty, romantic G&G instead. This program is a masterpiece.
It is now 2024.. I still remember this program by heart. Years later , I visualize this program as one that will always be remembered . This one touched my heart and soul. I can only say that about 2 or 3 programs I have viewed in my life. What artistry!!
G&G and M&D both deserved gold at the Lillehammer Olympics. The straight-line step sequence in M&D's program is a work of art. Actually, the entire program is a work of art. Just sublime.
Agreed! G&G were excellent as always but their program here felt a little flat by comparison to this one--which was so intense it was like a screaming, throwing-things lovers quarrel on ice.
Truly amazing! The Japanese broadcast standard is so high and it's also nice to be able to hear the music without background noise.
Это просто чудо, прелесть, даже по нашим временам, а какие Находки, какие элементы!!!
Невероятно !!! Сложнейшие элементы даже по теперешним меркам! Класс !!! Молодцы !!!
Они были и остаются лучшими
G&G and M&D were so far and away better than any other pair teams in history that if ever there were two golds this should have been it. Sergei and Artur were best friends and they just pushed each other to be better and better.
underscored !!((( the greatest pair in FS, so innovative , pleasure to watch!
By far the greatest pieces in pair figure skating of all time, back in Albertville you had the sensation he was superior in many ways, but not here, here they were equals, both given in completely, strong technically and artistically. If I had to decide I would have given them the GOLD.
Великолепная пара! Одно удовольствие на них смотреть.
The ending is one of the best, if not the best, pair skating ending ever.
Цепляет так, что сердце замирает. Наши фигуристы лучшие во Вселенной
The ending was sooo EPIC and full of Drama.. Love it!
They were perfect. They should have won gold. It was even better than their performance in Albertville.
Agreed. More dramatic and artistic.
господи. КАК ЖЕ ЭТО КРУТО!!! сколько лет уже смотрю ФК, ни одна программа на моей памяти не была такой свежей, яркой, динамичной, катание обалденное. сейчас так никто не катается, никто такие интересные элементы не показывает!!!
Agree. There is not a single skater out there that I am interested in viewing . This pair was the best. They were not afraid to push the envelope , and yet their skills and artistry remained stellar.
Смешно.
With my heart, this is the very best artistic expression of the angst and beauty of the romantic area of Rachmaninoff. The play of the positive and negative energy between the skaters , in addition to the outstanding choreography made for an emotional experience. Flawless skating was a bonus.
Lesley Wallace Tarasova and Morozov are very wonderful too
Браво!!!Брависсимо!!! На одном дыхании....)))))👍👍👍👍❤️
Замечательные! Очень красиво!!!
Кто может лучше. Никто. Шедевр. Сижу и плачу. Музыка, катание, эмоции. Здорово, бьёт прямо в солнечное сплетение. Браво.
Никто так не катается сейчас. Надежный партннер,необычные поддержки,много мелких наикрасивейших элементов,аплодировать начинают не дожидаясь окончания танца. Восторг.
Наши ЛУЧШИЕ и это не обсуждается, потому что это так и есть на самом деле. Техника высший класс, артистизм просто зашкаливает, костюмы классные. Молодцы!!!! Браво!!!!
THANK YOU for posting in HD! Hands down, the passion of this performance should have easily won GOLD. Their interpretation of this fantastic Rachmaninoff concerto was exceptional! Can't argue G&G's performance to Beethoven's sonata, vintage G&G but my vote goes to M&D!
I agree, they should have won gold in 1994. Love G&G, but in Lillehammer they made two mistakes in the Free Skate, yet the judges didn't seem to care. Mishkutienok & Dmitriev's artistry was superior as well, yet their artistic impression scores were lower too. This Rachmaninoff program is probably my favorite of all time in pairs skating. So dramatic and unique.
I disagree. G & G were more polished overall - with more technical perfection in the lifts and throws. I will grant you it was close- and a valid claim can be made for M&D, but in my book - and in the opinion of the judges and many other experts - the correct team won gold.
I agree, although it took me a while to get there. The speed, subtle grace of movement, incredible unison and superlative pairs skills set G & G apart for all time, single jump from Sergei notwithstanding. Not sure what the other faux pas was.
And judging by the reaction of the audience, the people who were in the rink that night overwhelmingly felt MD should have gotten gold over GG.
God bless the Japanese, their videos from Lillehammer are the best quality I've ever seen. ❤️
Какие молодцы!!!! Спасибо огромное
I felt their performance had more technical difficulty as well as artistic expression and I was disappointed for them. They said it was the difference between passion and perfection, but I felt I saw more mistakes in the program that won.
Wonderful, just wonderful. And Artur sure could rock a pair of tights. Sadly the ISU outlawed tights for men a year or two after this, saying that the males should not appear as to resemble ballet dancers. Not sure if this silly rule still stands.
Wtf? Yes Artur had the best... erm, bottom half I think I've ever seen on a skater. 😊
Le -am urmarit cu drag tot parcursul
Felicitari ! Ati fost fr buni !
I-am urmărit cu mare drag : ))
Among those I remember, Imho the best Rachmaninov on ice
I want to thank them for it
Bravi
Наконец-то Рахманинов,какая музыка , какая великолепная подача вот так спасибо
They were stolen big time ! It had soul, full of emotions and it was epic ! Deserved the gold hands down. Gordieva Grinkov were perfect by the book but it was dull and so classical. Almost 20 years after I still got the chills watching this.
Totally agree with you
I agree, they should have done something like their sp for the free skate because their moonlight sonata was very dull, it was just about their love story
Absolutely. When I watch Arthur and Natalia, I see power and innovation expressed with beauty, drama, and speed. Watching G&G was like watching a training video for perfecting pair skating elements . You appreciated the perfection--although we all know that their Olympic free routine had an obvious errors--
but at the same time you were hoping for something new. I think everyone--including the judges--were carried away by their love story, and that tipped the scales in their favor.
Мне тогда было очень жаль, что они золото не получили. Они были лучше Гордеевой Гринькова. Их выступления до сих пор пересматриваю с огромным удовольствием. Очень интересные и сложные программы. А вот, при всём уважении к Кате и Сергею, их мне пересматривать не хочется. Они более стандартные, что ли.
Где же лучше?Гардеева Гриньков катались на одном дыхании. А эти тяжеловато, особенно Наташа, скорости нет, шаги простые.
@@Irinasky ошибок не видели? Гриньков сорвал прыжок и не только.
@@Irinasky посмотрите на награждение: зал встретил Мишкуту и Артура громовыми аплодисментами.
@@Irinasky Вы просто фанаты Сергея и Кати, никто не оспаривает их уникальность, но в Лиллехамере золото заслуживали именно Мишкутёнок и Дмитриев, элементов сложных больше, гибкости, скорость ни чем не уступает, да и артистичность лучше! Бывает что судьи зацикливаются только на одних и субъективизм начинает преобладать!
@@Irinasky Как раз наоборот, у Гринькова и Гордеевой проще, иначе вы просто слепы и не видите!
Высший класс!
Perfection!
Thanks, great performance and video. Seems like one is right there.
still feel they should have gotten the gold
They made fewer mistakes than G&G but G&G won because they were G&G.
Totally agree. I liked Gordeeva and Grinkov but I truly believe that this performance by Natalia Mishkutenok & Artur Dmitriev's performance was way better and more deserving of Gold. Mishkutenok & Dmitriev's passion, artistry, and flexibility oozes in all their performances. They captured my full attention ever since I saw their performance during the 1992 Albertville Olympic.
Tal They had a great performance but I think it’s a personal preference. They are more athletic and maybe edgy. Where as G and G in my opinion skated as one. Sergei and Katia skated with beautiful, deliberate and graceful movements. Almost like ballet on ice. There was a love story played out in each performance but even for a male skater Sergei who was a tall athletic man was as graceful as Katia.
The USA judge with a 5.6 &5.7 scores.....unbelievable
Agree! They were so beautiful... I remember in the US commentary, Scott Hamilton kept rambling about passion vs perfection and he was so obviously in G&G’s camp... I think the judges judged their off-ice turmoil instead of the performance.
Why the low scores on tech? 5.6 from the US judge?
Ужас! За технику ставить 5,6??? И за артистизм 5, 7? Этих арбитров гнать, почему не подали протест, идеально чисто откатали , синхронно, великолепная пп, прекрасная пара , красивая❤👏👏👏👏
А где Вы здесь артистизм увидели?) Два штангиста выполняют элементы - вот и всё.
Вы сам штангист, и видите их! Штангисты поднимают штанги а фигуристы катают программу, и вы не арбитр чтобы судить, работаете где- то в каменоломнях с кувалдой!
Дух замерает
Удивительно! Как эта программа могла проиграть программе Гордеевой и Гринькова? Это намного сложнее и насыщеннее того, что показали победители (плюс ошибка в каскаде)
засудили. просто украли медали.
@@Blazhevino Всегда казалось что Гриньков с Гордеевой переоценены судьями. Артура с Натальей можно пересматривать постоянно, их катание нисколько не потеряло своей оригинальности и свежести, несмотря на годы
I can see how they lost. They were sloppier overall. Their individual elements compared to Gordeeva and Grinkov’s weren’t as well executed. I would have been fine if M&D won, they did have the skate of their lives, but I can understand why G&G won. Their twist, spirals, lifts connecting elements were simply better than M&D’s.
Уважаю Гринькова и Гордееву, но Дмитриев и Мишкутенок были не хуже, может и лучше. Надо было 2 золотые медали вручать.
Вот где надо было давать две золотые медали! Несмотря на мою любовь к Гордеевой, Гринькову, эта пара была лучше.
Я в детстве их обожала!!! Артур, красавец!!! Красивые волосы!
Артур видимо очень сильный фигурист. Партнерша плотненкая девочка. Серебро получили заслуженно.
Космос
Vrh Uvjerljivo najbolji
Гениально!
Rachmaninoff rocks!!
Катаются, словно лес рубят). Штангисты) Куда им до Кати и Сергея). Уже одна улыбка этой пары топит лед в сердцах людей.. Фигуристы могут делать сложнейшие элементы без помарок, но НИКОГДА не достигнут уровня, очарования и любви зрителей Кати и Сергея).
Бравооо
5.6&5.7...who is the U.S.A. judge???
Bien
Жаь, что в те вреиена не было ср\овременного судейства: никогда бы у низ не выигралиГордеева-Гриньковс теми ошибками, что допустили в произвольной. Проще говоря у них украли чемпионские медали.
I always respected them as skaters but wow, what a clunky move at 4:08. Its lack of fluidity even made Artur stumble on the step sequence immediately after it.
That is why G &G won the gold
Да, об, ективно катались тут тяжеловато, иногда вымучивали элементы и скольжение жеское.
One judge got it right!
A igualdad de perfección en el programa, esta actuación tenía más épica, más drama que GG.
Y cuantos más años pasan más claro me parece que el orden correcto era oro para MD y plata para GG.
El moonlight sonata era perfecto, clásico, impecable y hasta más empátici para ka mayoría del público...pero este programa ha envejecido mejor, tenía algo especial que lo hacía más singular, más espiritual.
They make G & G look boring
N o
Yes
l'apoteosi!
La Guas
Does anyone know the name of the music they skated to? I've heard it before, and from 2:55 to 3:17 is the exact melody and chord progression of Eric Carmen's "All By Myself". You can hear it if you sing in your head: I never needed anyone / and making love was just for fun / those days are gone. I wonder if Eric was inspired by this piece to write, All By Myself.
Rachmaninoff piano concerto No.2.
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Rachmaninoff 2nd Concerto. Eric Carmen deliberately use the same melody and was sued for copyright infringement.
@@skatefan9495 Yes, I discovered that later. He also ripped off another classical melody for his song, Never Gonna Fall in Love Again (also Rchmaninoff, I believe), and he has to give credit to the composer and royalties to his estate for both those songs. Just crazy.
Он с ней еле справляется, это видно, но не умер же.
100% Gold🏆 🥇🥇🏆
Grinkov and Gordeeva это балет и совершенство. Мишкутенок просто самодеятельность .
Вот именно....да программа сложная,но какие тяжёлые
Смотреть на них неприятно, всё время жалко партнёра 😂
M&D thinks they got robbed? why than did the Russian judge only give them a 5.8 ...if you think thats graceful get glasses..and she bumps into him coming down from a jump...and he is out there skating like he has to attack something..i swear he was drunk or stoned......the whole program he was choppy. and came to a complete stop when he threw her that is a lack of control...they should only have gotten the bronze.....
They were robbed. They should have gotten GOLD.
I don't like the choreography of this team. Maybe they were athletic, but there was just no passion, no connection between these two. It was all just business and that shows to the audience. A lot of flailing around. Yes some nice moves, but interesting one's. Mishk. was always so serious. She never smiled, which didn't help. Don't like those silly costumes. In the end, she just brutally juts into him. He seems to be surprised as well.
У Гордеевой, конечно, красивая улыбка, но глаза злые. Меня всегда коробило от этого диссонанса.
Best pairs ever
Best pair ever