Fast Colombian Salsa Dancer
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2025
- John Jairo " Piña" Rodriguez- Cali, Colombia.Bailarin extremadamente agil, veloz y a tiempo.
El tumbao del estilo Caleno esta en los pies, marcando cada instrumento, percussion, coro y tiempo de una descarga o cancion salsera.
Extremely fast footwork (which is Cali Colombian Style Salsa.
Colombian style salsa is all about dancing on point to every instrument, vocal and speed of a salsa, boogaloo or charanga song. It is not on 1,2 or 3 count. This is an advanced level salsa, not for beginners.
JUemadreeee...esq cada vez que veo este video me inspira a ser mejor bailarina. Que orgullosa me siento de tener raices en un pais tan rico de muscia, baile y pasion. Viva COLOMBIA!
Spectacular. This is the combination of a great dancer and a true athlete. Que atleta y que gran bailardor. Que bueno seria una academia de salsa estilo cali aqui en Estados unidos donde tanta gente de diferentes razas se ha enamorado de la salsa.
Impresionante,el tipo esta marcando los pasos con el ritmo del timbal.
YEAH thts my teacher right there, Piña taught me this routine but i cant ever do it as fast as him...ill get there soon....
He is the best salsa dancer!
Incredible.
love it
Asi es que se baila¡¡¡¡
hay mi negooo... le pego le pego baila sabroso parcero
@fuzmiq caleno salsa styles like boogaloo and pachanga mix well with samba.
the genre salsa and caleno salsa are classified under seperate names from afro colombian, afro cuban and congelese rhumba.
the banjo is an instrument that originated in africa . calling country a white genre is an over simplification. many early rural musicians (black and white) performed country and blues. & im sure theres a heavy native influence in tejano.
american styles are convoluted.
dude is wearing boots. amazing
"proudly tell you" i dont care what they will tell me - if its based on something as borish as pride. if some european started boasting about harmonics and (stacking notes) chording that created a revolution in music around the world - my eyes would glaze over and roll back into my head.
you can look at the similarities of the dances and make sweeping generalizations & simplifications based on ethnic pride. i am pointing out the differances and complexity. the individuality of the dances/dancers & the complexity of the influences. breaking vs capeoira vs what they do in angola and martinique vs kung fu hurricane kicks etc
theres a flamenco step that becomes the samba step if you speed it up. many carribean syncopations mimick bird calls and insect noises. the influence of gallic footwork on black dancing is well known (TAP). obviously people of native and euro decent were very influenced by africans. its weird you would see it as a one way influence.
obviously were not going to see eye to eye. mostly a point of emphasis than anything else. & yes, its getting boring for both of us. since were having this conversation, i will ask - which specific west african dance or dances did the heel toe c-walk type movements come from?
hey pana a vos no te conoci en palmira vé?
"European culture has been the standard by which other cultures have been judged" the europian powers used technology to dominate other cultures. note that the first historian on record, the greek herotodus, gave credit to egypt and sub saharan africa for thier cultural roots.
i thought a nyc choreographer came up with that beyonce dance. who knows what dances they were trained in. looked like samba hip rolls to me. flamenco has crazy hip rolls. via rajastani gypsies and north african styles.
@luvureally It would be a HUGE exagerration to imagine that "Most of the music created by Black folks in the Americas has become international." also, I draw a destinction between various african american regional cultures and styles and those of the specific tribes of africa. and I also aknowledge the value of the specific individuals whos invent a style. they go to a lot of trouble to develope unique personal styles. they could be influenced by mimes on tv. or their next door neighbor.
definitivamente el mejor estilo de salsa es el de cali asi les duela a los boriquas...y este man baila una chimba si no que con una pareja se veria mejor
@luvureally youve obviously mis-read my statement. I never said Wilson was influenced by Flamenco. I did say his reason for wearing boots is in a differant context.
but yes clothing, costume and footwear do influence dance styles. and good luck adding afro to any genre you think was influenced by africans decendents.
@luvureally you can look at the styles ethnocentrically, and it will allow you to appreciate an ethnic contribution. or you can look at the style geocentrially. "cali is the salsa capitol of teh world" or whatever. just remember that such limited perspectives distort the picture.
uuuuuy saben de algun video donde aprender ese fast footwork? esta genial!
@luvureally those are a miniscule number of styles compared to number of "black" styles that exist at this moment. let alone going back to the 19th and 18th century.
pan africanism has largly been abandoned by african nation states. puerto ricans will proudly tell you that salsa is a puerto rican, and cubans call colombian salsa cumbia. etc. these are distinct regional american styles.
@luvureally "You certainly will not find this athleticism, fluidity of movement & grace in Euro dancing or even Native dancing."
maybe not this specific version athleticism, fluidity and grace... both native americans and europians have deep traditions of dance. the waltz or ballet for example is very fluid and graceful. flamenco or irish footwork can be athletic. native dance culture is deep too. its central to many tribes.
american dances are a mix of american cultures and influences.
you may want to take your fight to wikipedia since they dont support your pov (yet).
thanks for the tribal list. afro cuban and yoruba dance styles look very close. a couple of John Jairo " Piña" Rodriguez moves look very sabar. the leg sweep looks edo. breaking gets many floor moves from carib.
the knee slaps look like a gypsy/flamenco influence. the toe and heel hits are very euro - from boot based dances. could be flamenco. or celtic/gallic by way of american swing tap influence.
the peruvians grow 30 types of potatos. the europians chose one style to grow in ireland etc. what we consider modern potatos comes from this. saying peru invented or domesticated the potato is true. but the full story is more complex. the world is a complex place. you can do youre afro affirmations and honor your heroic narrative but thats a simplified picture.
youre already "dealing with" or asserting the african narrative - from an african american perspective. im sure many of the puerto ricans that created the first music marketed as salsa in spanish harlem in nyc in teh 70s were of mixed race backgrounds. new individualistic and regionals styles of music are still being created - many identified as salsa - others rejected as salsa and catagorized differantly according to various critical or mercatile gate keepers/promoters and according to pride.
Some steps were cool but some were horrible. This championship salsa NOT salsa you would see someone dancing in a club n if they do their just keen. QUE VIVA LA RAZA LATINA!!
@luvureally its funny that you would recognize mexican americans as mexican (rather than as euro and native americans) and you refuse to recognize colombians as colombians.
thats what i mean by arbitrary destinctions.
is spagetti italian? chinese might say there would be no noodles without china. some one from venice might claim marco polo. a tribal person from southern china that eats only rice might have a problem with "china." an italian might have a problem with american chef boyardi. spagetti in india has a unique flavor - is it still spagetti? at some point one chef invented spagetti. is that hair splitting or double talk? reality is complex. history is simple because its mythology.
i agree. many of the music genres youre proud of were labelled to marginalize music/musicians. the labels youre using are part of the same game. of dividing people to your own personal agrandizement. thats why your choice to divid people by ethnicity, region or nation state changes to support whatever arguement youre choosing t make.
Lolol
@luvureally you keep back tracking and qualifying your words. you start out saying that this is exclusively an african dance and the moves were brought over from africa. then you aknowledge that the africans were reacting to styles from other sources. then you aknowledge that the styles moved on from teh africans. so essentially all that matters to you is that some black people did the style for a minute in their community? based on other styles. before the styles continued on ...
@luvureally i appluad your afrocentrism. but youre never going to convince me that all american music and dance styles are african just because they are influenced by african styles. the iberian influence on latin dance and music is obvious. the guy in this vid is wearing flamenco style boots. the root vs influence of those styles would depend on perspective and individual artist. the iberian+native influence can account for regional differances etc.
@luvureally only in your brain am i trying to diminish the influence of african movements on americans of african decent. im also pointing out that some styles become international and global and take on a life of their own - they become a subculture onto their own. aknowleding that some music or dance cultures grow larger than the 20 or so people that may originate a style does in no way diminish the contribution of those specific individuals regardless of their ethnic background.
if jackie wilson was wearing those boots in 2008 (or whenever this was done) rahter than in the 1960s (when they were in style as part of the british invasion) and he was doing flamenco inspired moves as part of a latin dance. the boots might have significance.
i see youre blind to everything that doesnt fit into your world view. if africans build on a non african style = an african style. if non africans build on a african style = a african style. thats a silly catch 22.
at first you generalized "african" - only now youre distinguishing west african and getting specific about post colonial territories. if you were truly proud of west african heritage you might want to identify these people by their tribal identites.
If you knew more about euro dances you could point out that iberian dance is highly influenced by west african music. the triplet shuffle pattern is from moroc via mali. ballet dance is also highly influenced by african dance by way of spain.
juaa!! La poncena pana?? are u serious?? TRY AGAIN!! that's why los artistas boricuas le deben tanto a los colombianos por que si no hubiese sido por nosotros ese ritmo estuviese muerto. Los calenos mantenemos la salsa viva y pegando. and let me tell you that colombian won the championship in puerto rico on 2004 and won the ESPN championships against the worlds best salsa dancers, boricuas and everyone else, from 05 till 07...by the way its camilo azuquita with cortijo y su combo. keep trying
I see that you want to give blacks %1000 of the credit for developing these dance and music styles. thats just not realistic. there are many famous non black artists in all the dance and music forms you have described. there is a feedback loop between artists of all ethnicities on all continents - like a global cypher. they pass steps/styles back and forth like a conversation. check sailor dances of the 18th and 17th century. etc
q hijue... como mueve las patas el perro
@luvureally didnt know bernie was rican lol. wow how the hell did a colombian salsa video become a racial forum??
aside from the fake colonial borders that plague africa theres an underlying tribal conflict. see hutus and tutsi. and also within music genres. my point being that its nice you identify with such a wide group of people. across the world. im sure if you were chinese you would be crowing about the invention of paper and how all paper based culture around the world is chinese culture or some such nonsense.
first you describe how blacks combined European influences with their own. then you deny the same influence with your "White folks dropped in the hood" dismissal. and you omit that once a style passed through the hood, and it influenced broader culture, the new style influenced the hood again. its a feedback loop.
Im just stating that in the americas and in the world, artists are influenced by other artists. to try to dissect and seperate/segregate artistic influence is arbitrary.
yeah?? do u even know who sings this?? why don't u give a try and tell me?? yeah i respect cuba and puerto rico for having bringing bomba, plena and guaguanco to NY, the same way a respect other countries for bring other native rythms to create salsa, because salsa was NOT created in puerto rico or cuba, it's a mix of alot of rythms including the colombian cumbia that you talk about...by the way, u just contradicted yourself when u said that these were boricuan moves. Try again!!
I pitty "BoriquaRikan's" ethnocentric views. Oh, I'm sorry...you might have to look that word up in the dictionary because, based on your responses, I can tell you have limited knowledge of vocabulary. A true critique always gives credit to the art of dancing. A true dancer or one who has experience in dancing RESPECTS the efforts and uniqueness of other dancers. Oh, and check the word ignorant in the dictionary as well, your picture might be on there...
jajajaaj never in your shitty life u would see a boricua doing any and i mean aaaannnnyyy of this moves...this is original colombian style sorry!!!
i think the proper person for you to argue with is some one that has no knowledge of music or dance history. then youre arguements might be worth your breath. i find youre emphasis on black pride to be overly simplistic and borish. i hope youre of african decent, otherwise you sound silly.
well, u still don't know who sings this, makes me think u don't know shit about SALSA!!...conzultico, let me remind you...is a latin thing! not a "caribbean" thing...yeah puerto rico mastered it but u have much to thank other countries for their influences....and to prove you that colombia has ALOT to do with salsa LET ME REMIND YOU WHO HAS WON THE LAST WORLD SALSA CHAMPIONSHIPS EVEN THE ONE IN PR. THE COLOMBIANS!!!! TRY AGAIN!!
ATT:BART