Why are fans FURIOUS About The New Hazbin Hotel Merchandise?
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
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Today there’s been another hazbin hotel controversy but this time it involves the latest valentines merch. Let me explain.
So if you’re not aware there was a new line of valentines merch for both hazbin hotel and helluva boss.
Almost immediately things kicked off because there was merch of valentino. As per usual there were various tweets and posts with tens of thousands of likes criticising the show and team for creating merchandise of a villain.
The valentino merch in question immediately sold out within less than a day.
Similarly people were upset about the new glitz and glam merch where we see them in interesting outfits and holding eachother.
Fans responded that having two provocative twins is a common stereotype in media, they’re enticing the viewer to join them. It’s a trope that’s existed for decades.
Vivziepop and morgana ignis who were behind the merch responded. Viv said that the people complaining about villains are the same type that have villain merchandise and lunchboxes. Morgana said that twitter is cesspool and revealed that we’ll have 7 more merch collections this year, so all of our favourites will get their own merch including mammon.
Do you think the merch crossed the line? Or do you think people are over reacting. Let me know down below.
#hazbinhotel #vivziepop #hazbinhotelseason2
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“BREAKING NEWS: Fandom discovers that Villains can have merch.”
Wait till they find out about the copious amounts of Bill Cipher fan merch there is. They will explode.
Shredder merchandise jumpscare
Joker merchandise jumpscare
Megatron merchandise jumpscare
@@Raggy_df 😂
I think it’s how weird it is, cause why is a 16 yo nũďè with ribbons wrapped around her? Why are siblings gripping each other in a weird way? Why is a character on a body pillow? Said character being one uncomfortable with them being sxualized.
@@Yo-daddywhat children are you talking about?💀
For a show for adults. Too many people in this fandom act like children.
There's loads of teens in the fandom
@kawaiiemolga I unfortunately, know. Too many children. Remember, it's an adult show. Not for kids!!
Probably because half the people in the fan base are dumbass teens.
@The_Divine_Void as a 13 year old, I honestly don't mind the show, it's one of my favourite shows ever. Having these people get mad over stupid things is absolutely shit.
Indeed
In other news sky continues to be blue
BYEE😭😭😭💀💀💀
And now, to Gale for current events. Gale: The Skunk Kingdom just declared war on The Raccoon Republic
And now for music: DJ Subatomic Supernova has dropped a new album this year. and the others, too, I guess.
Time for the weather forecast, today is cloudy with a chance of meatballs. Todd take it away.
I wish it were gray so that it wouldn’t be so hot
“I hate that HH has made Valentino merch”
“Who’s your favourite HH character?”
“Oh Adam.”
He is not a rap1st tho
@@shelly6122and? He’s still a piece of shit villain responsible for GENOCIDE
@@shelly6122 yeah but didn't he like basically order mass genocide
@@shelly6122 rewatch the first 5mins of the 1st episode. its literally said that Adam wanted complete control over Lilith and thats why she ran away. So I'd argue thats worse.
Not to mention, he's a genocidal maniac. so...yeah....
Exhibit A @@shelly6122
“Ugh! Valentino had Valentines merch” HES NAME IS VALENTINO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT OUT OF THE MOTH?
I'd say that Glitz and Glam incorporate that stereotype is the whole point... they're hellspawn...they use whatever they can to gain fame... they know that people have a twin fetish
Exactly, they are from ENVY ring! Even during the episode they clearly showed that they are ready to do anything for money and fame (including selling off their own bodies)
FRRRR
Ok but that doesn’t make it any less harmful for the viewer. I’m a twin and I see this ALL the time. If you justify it by saying “oh it’s ok because they’re villains” every time, it shows society that it’s common even if it is through villains. It makes me uncomfortable and it’s the exact same thing as incest. Just because they’re villains doesn’t make incest ok either. Love the show, hate this.
Fr They're in hell they do whatever make them popular
@@haleymalloy4508i’m a twin too but i don’t have any problems with them i actually really like them as characters using thier talents and looks to get what they want is an overused stereotype but it’s still a great one
"In other breaking news, Twitter users discover that there's grass outside that they could touch, and other humans that they can talk to outside of the screen."
This is fake news unfortunately
Lol, absolutely true... I'm laughing the hell out of me now.
“Next up an interview with a man who was so clinically online that when he went outside and touch grass it changed his life.”
"Update!!! Turns out Twitter users are smooth brained to understand how things properly work."
God I wish
i don't see this sort of reaction when the disney villian who is a literal puppy skinner gets a loungefly bag or two
Yep, Disney has been selling merch of Magical dragons, sea witches and so on, for decades.
And I want to include Anime. One Piece, Naruto, Demon Slayer and many more shows/manga sell villain merch all the time.
Fr people on twitter will just find anything to hate
Or when the literal fucking ruler of hell gets his merch (ik there might be confusion so I’m saying now that I mean Hades not Lucifer lol)
@@R0sesAreCool
For what it's worth, Hades rules ALL of the afterlife, not just the bad place, but the good place, and the medium places too.
or when a church guy goes crazy over a poor woman to the point of setting all of Paris to flames.
Gotta say I love how Morgana and Viv responded to this. They straight up went, "You guys are pissed about characters getting merchandise? We are going to produce even more merch so cry harder". Glad that Viv is starting to stand up for herself
Top 10 responses.
Twitter: Villains have merch!? When did this happen? That never happens!🤬
Disney: 🤨... really?
DC/Marvel: Wow...😮💨
Anime: *cough(2x)* over here *cough(2x)*🙄
Nickelodeon/Cartoon Network: Bro fr?😒
Etc.
Tbf, none of those villains are canonical rapists getting Valentine's Day merch.
@@samiamtheman7379 true, yet still, most disney villains have done not so good things like how Jafar and Frollo did. But that's my opinion.
@CartoonBrains1976 I don't recall either of them being put on official Valentine's Day merch tho.
@@samiamtheman7379They have merch in general during the holiday time.
@samiamtheman7379 well yeah but its their actions is what they've done, nevermind.
As Angel Dust once said: "This is stupid"
Very stupid
I agree with the gay spider
I have that gif in my phone 😂
"I'm too sober for this"
Well said, stolas
It's. Just. Merchandise.
@G0ldenFlamez exactly😭😭 people are just finding any reason to be mad
@Madzbin ya
Merchandise can be controversial and bad too-
@Madzbin typical social media advanced mental regardation is what's driving the hate train and nothing short of pest control can stop it.
@EPIKCHICKENBUTSECOND and this wasnt that
Yo I was just talking about this with some random dude on reddit, they think its stupid, and it is, clearly the twitter people have never actually seen the show
Why would ppl who don’t Ike the show watch it?
@@EeRr-kh9ji why people would dedicate SO much time on hating a show they don't even watch or like?
There's a lot of antis on Twitter who are allergic to enjoying anything unless it's perfect and wholesome. They need to stay far away from any shows that take place in hell, and are rated 18 PLUS.
It is striking that REDDIT has a lot of commonsense views on the show. XD But it does make a bit more sense. The show is willing to address things that are unorthodox and Reddit is one of the few places on the internet where people look for the unorthodox.
@@EeRr-kh9ji EXACTLY
Same people like anime villains, have merch of them and thirst over them obnoxiously 24/7 like its their entire personality
Wts wrong with liking anime villains? 🥲
@-itsmary-9773 nothing at all lol. I like anime even though I don't watch it as often as I want, im just saying it's hypocritical what they're doing by getting so upset about merch of Val when those same people have a favorite that's a villain that's literally offed hella ppl and stuff
“You’ll probably get stuff of your favs. Mammon, Barbie, Crim, Paimon… they all have stuff coming.”
PAIMON?!?
Its always the contreversies..
And it's always a stuped controversy
@ChichiElChihno it’s not this is fake controversy as in nobody actually cares.
Welcome To Vivzieland
@Karaoking-y4h LOL
I'm beginning to think it's a tactic to keep them relevant between releases
Why do people care so much omg like so many shows have merch of the villan but when hazbin hotel does it suddenly it’s a felony!!
Because she is a woman creator, and these Twitter mobs always go against them, Vivzie, Renata Sugar (Steven Universe), Daron Nefcy ( Star vs the forces of evil).It even happens with content creators like Lindsey Ellis who made the same joke as all the youtubers and their mothers from Avatar and Raya, but she was canceled in such a way that she felt like she had to retraumatize herself and, justify her entire existence, until she gave up on the platform. All the shows have aspects that may be problematic or writing that someone may find questionable on them, but nobody makes hate videos or attacks in a mob male creators, or at least not with the regularity that occurs with women, I don't know, the creators of Avatar, Castelvania, the creator of bojack, I guarantee you that if this people had the same qualms about fueling their hatred against them that they have for creative women, they would also find a thousand things. Want to talk about discrimination? Talk about that.
This is a real issue women always get punished for the same jokes. @@kacklina
Bcuz he's a r@pist? Lol
@@Skyla286 is not just the jokes, is even getting punished for standing out, have a successful project, be popular, have an opinion.
@@Skyla286don't forget if women act the same as men they're called 'b**ches' or worse or get accused of being on their period. But if a man has the exact same reaction he's praised for being manly. That isn't even assumptions, this is from an old trans friend of mine who did that type of social experiment.
*the Creator breathes*
Fans and media: I take offense to that
The twins holding each other is like Jessica Rabbit grabbing the tie of the detective in her show, it's a PERFORMANCE. Who would think it's actually incest? And who would think that twins are actually like that in real life? People lack perspective!
Breaking news:
Fans of an adult show get mad when twins wear somewhat revealing clothing when there's literally a scene when they flash us
Vivzie is on point about the Art the Clown bit there. I mean, Valentino merch is no different from merch based on Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, The Devil's Rejects, Walking Dead, Sopranos, Red Dead Redemption, Cult of the Lamb, etc.
Hell, Disney made big bucks when they sold Disney Villains merchandise years ago; there is no difference here.
That’s what I was thinking. Why shame people who like the villain. The joker has been a favorite for years. People want to find something to complain about. I think Vivzie should stop responding. She doesn’t need to defend herself or justify the match. Especially if it sold out there’s obviously a client base for it.
Literally, villains are SUPPOSED to be bad. I still don’t understand why it’s such a big whoop about Valentino. There are PLENTY of other villains out there that are arguably WORSE! 😂 like this comment mentioned LITERAL MURDERERS
Only thing I can see is that Valentino's crimes are more personal and more shown then others. You're more likely to be assaulted then you are to be murdered ya know? Makes it more realistic and to close to home. But that's all I can think of that would make people more upset about him then other villains
Look, Val is a monster. We all know that. But he's also a fictional character. I can't figure why so many people have randomly decided to draw the line at Valentino from Hazbin Hotel when people have loved and bought merch celebrating the Joker, Michael Myers, Darth Vader, and other similarly evil characters for years. Also. Alastor is the most popular character in the fandom and he's a serial killer.
I think the difference between him and those guys is he's a s*xual abuser. Some people may find having merch of him promotes s*xual abuse. Which I don't think is the case, but it's certainly a sensitive topic and layer we need to take into account. Would people who experienced the things Angel went through really wanna see this guy on merch? That's up to the victim and I have no idea the answer to that as I'm not one, but it's something to consider!
I think we should start appreciating the little peace there is in this community from how many Controversies there are now.
Also again, as Joel Perez said: WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE WHEN IT COMES TO VILLAINS???
This is a fake controversy; nobody actually cares.
@@shangothunder1055too bad so many people dedicate so much of their time calling Viz evil for this shit
The line to draw is that they're fictional amd its harmless as long as you don't condone it irl 🤷♂️
@ EXACTLY!
This is so ridiculous.
Viv keep making merch. If that's their entire life mission to just hate on things you create, then keep making more.
She should do like the company mars did when they released a celebrations calendar and people FLIPPED OUT! The reason? The first day had a bounty in it! So what did they do? Next year they had the first two days be bounty 😂.
Just rub salt into the wounds of these nuts lol
...I literally bought a sweater of Negan from the walking dead holding his bloodied baseball bat. This is the guy that bludgeoned a main character and no one complained. Why are people mad that people like villains and buy merch?!
My controversy for the merch drop was that there was no Adam or lute merch in on my hands and knees begging for merch of him
It's always something in this Fandom
Frrr I feel like everytime Vivziepop breathes people have something to get mad abt
Trust me, it's always something in _every_ Fandom.
If Hazbin exists there’s a controversy of it.
It must be Tuesday.
It's gonna be a new rule of the internet
@@the888gamemasterMakes me wonder what # it would be
if media exist you mean
rule 666
I love how these Twitter users have no problem with other villains in Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss having merch. Adam, Lute, Velvette, Vox, Crimson, Andreaphus, Stella, and Striker are all fine to make merch of. But the minute Spindlehorse puts anything Valentino related out, they riot. Irony is that the people listed are just as bad, if not worse, than Val.
Let's be real, by moral standards MOST of the characters are villains. Including Alastor, Lucifer, Cherry Bomb and others. Most are only helping the protagonists or a good cause because it furthers their own goals and would be villains in any other scenario, like Alastor. Or they happen to be friends with a protagonist, like Cherry Bomb, or the cannibal lady.
@Flanneryschickens That's true. The shows are set in Hell after all, lol.
@@DoodleDude1878to quote Blitz "IT'S HELL EVERYONES SHITTY"
It more has to do with the specific bad thing that Val is associated with. You know, the thing that starts with R and rhymes with tape. And then giving that character Valentine's Day merch.
@@samiamtheman7379 yeah but i think viv wants to satisfy all Fans. And Valentino Fans exist
Glitz and Glam having provocative outfits isn't that bad considering one of them literally flashes the audience in their debut episode
Dont quote me but I saw people had an issue with glitz and glam because they ass groped each other and ya know incest cuz their twins. I think it's a bit silly but they are demons in hell.
Wow so when Thanos gets merch everyone is all wOoOoO Thanos got merch but when the big bad moth gets merch everyone is like BURN IT WITH FIRE (sigh we are a lost cause lol)
Here we go again
Indeed...
Honestly I think it's at least interesting that we get to see vox's gills for once in his outfit in the merch confirming he's a shark demon
@@cyrcedoji Is Vox a shark as he purports? Or is it based on his support? He'd be powerless without the other Vees 🎵🗣🔥
I was already looking at the majority of people on Twitter saying that Glitz and Glam's merch were incestuous and that they were "groping each other" which I think is absolutely ridiculous!! Glitz and Glam are literally twin sisters that envy one another! I highly doubt Vivziepop and her team would ever go down that kind of direction!
yeah exactly, viv would definitely never do that(even tho thats appealing)
I didn't even realize they were sisters I always assumed they were supposed to be a preforming Duo who matched visually as part of their performance
@JackedUpEntertainment They were referred to a the "Glam Sisters" (though I'd personally call them the 'Glow Sisters') in their debut episode. Plus, they seemed to argue like siblings when they were trash talking Fizz
Even if they were…intimate with one another, they’re still two BAD characters who are demons from Hell.
The whole point of their characters is that they will do freaky stuff and depersonalize themselves for money and fame through Mammon. It's why they were winning the competition; Fizz had started wanting to put hard limits on what he'd do, and they wouldn't so Mammon favored them. Their song literally is about how they want to be used by Mammon and their fans like they aren't even people just to win fame and fortune, and they see that as good because it means they beat Fizz and become the new faces of desire
People just want something to complain about
I don’t even understand what’s the problem ??? People are really strange, Vivzie has create all these characters, they all have a personality, a design and a plot, they are characters just as others… we can like them or not, but they all deserve some merch
From what I saw on twitter it's because one of the merch glitz was hold glams ass I think? Ya know incest and the other is giving valentino attention at all because he's a rapist. I saw arguements saying viv glorified rape. -SHRUGS- It's twitter. It's always something.
I'll admit I am personally uncomfortable with Glitz & Glam's merch but I do think it makes sense since they're using the seductive twins trope for their performances/Mammon's approval. Blitzo even said they're trying to mirror stick (even if they're not the best at it), tho I am hoping they get individual merch cause I really like Glam (I think that's her name? The one that's supposed to represent the sad theater mask) :>
Tbf they do also have separate keychains in the drop as well.
They 100% lean into the fact that sex sells, it's their entire thing and they do it intentionally
*shtick
I'd only escuse the trope being used if it were to commentate on the horrible objectification female twins endure. But it doesn't. It only further supports it.
On the shirt, she is literally grabbing her butt. Normal siblings don't do that and they would never write them doing that if they were faternal.
Supporting a harmful trope that affects real people will never be ok
When I heard enticing twins, my brain immediately went to Hikaru and Kaoru from oran high school host club know this fandom isn’t dead yet. I’m still a part of it and it is at least four years older than me
Ah yes. Ouran definitely revealed some things about me. Haruhi for the gender mainly. And Tamaki and Kyoya for the mommy kink.
@
As soon as mommy Kink was mentioned, my brain went to the we listen and we don’t judge me (I’m not judging I just had to say that because it was so fucking funny, low-key me too)
Omg that's right. Their whole shtick was borderline incestuous brotherly love and I hear 0 complaints about that.
Im part of that fandom and it’s probably like 10 years older than me lol
@@Savasaurus42The anime or the manga? Because that would make you 9-12 years old on a hazbin hotel video
"Valentino cant have merch! Hes a villian"
Vox in the corner
"A trope of two provocative twins! Thats a trope! You cant do that"
Its a *trope* let them do whatever as long as ut doesnt dirrectly hurt someone
It’s not the fact he’s an antagonist that’s the problem it’s that it’s Valentine’s Day merch of a “grapest” I think out of every character they have choosing Val as one of em to make merch for the holiday is a poor choice considering the content and considering the fact that angel dust and others are right there is weird they didn’t just use them instead
@QuadLunch ya, thats the thing I find iffy with it, but I was mostly meaning the reasons they explained in the video. That one I understand completely
@@QuadLunch I don't think choosing Val from a design stand point is a "poor choice" for merch. He literally has hearts all over him.
As for why viv and team didn't use other characters like Angel, he has plenty of merch, Val has almost none compared if not the same ( I don't know the exact amounts ). for people who like Val as a character ( me :D ! )
I like when they give merch for *all* characters including the "bad" ones
@Yell0wStarbvrstit’s the fact people don’t care if there’s merch of a villain, it’s the fact Val is a rapist.
@@QuadLunchQuit whining and enjoy what they give.
id would be weird if Valentino didn’t had merch on Valentines day when his appearance and name are full Valentine coded
coming from a twin, me and my twin LOVE Glitz and Glam, and that their creating villain merch, it really doesn't matter. I would honestly buy Valentino's and Glitz and Glam's merch, its fire ✨
From what I’ve seen many were pissd that HuskerDust didn’t have any mearch and some were upset that niffty is never part of merch like this. But again, if you’re upset with them catering to THEIR villains then be upset about OTHER villains too, imo at least
We got the canon relationships and really popular characters, Huskerdust will get their fair share of merch and Niffty isn’t a popular enough character.
@@Ruby2P nifty shouldnt have Valentines merch 💀
I bet if they did make niffty merch like this, someone would complain that a "childlike" character is getting provocative merch and claim that they are catering to p*dos or something. They just want something to complain about because they hate the show, and it doesn't matter in the long run.
She is on a bracket and t-shirt at Hot topic, and they're selling her dress
@@Panthersclaw I saw a complaint about Niffty being so short and innocent like before. Made me wonder if they ever met short people before or saw the show
It's at the point now that if ever there was an ACTUAL controversy, nobody would care or believe it, but just scroll on by.
it’s the boy who cried wolf, so many nothingburger controversies i just roll my eyes when i hear there’s a new hellaverse controversy (although I do still listen to hear what it is just incase)
100% agree
It's nothing to do with controvery and everything to do with people getting a list of targets they can attack and not have to apologize for. In otherwords, those school bullies who never get in trouble despite punching a kid to blood, that's them. From what I hear, they sound like unbearable people IRL....
I swear. Every merch drop or new episode drop there’s always some drama happening at twitter. They just want that hit tweet so badly…
in other breaking news, it's be really weird to see Glitz and Glam not glued together in their merch since they only ever spend a few seconds apart in the show, during their musical number, and having them seperate would be unnatural
“Ew why tf does Valentino have merch?! He’s a villain I hate hiiiiim ☠️😈👹”
Meanwhile: Valentino merch sold out in a day
I didn’t care for the merch but there’s no reason to make a big fuss over Val being a character that people enjoy. Grow up.
Thank you, there should be more people like you.
Geez, some people are so hypocritical. They don't want the villain like Valentino or Glitz and Glam on the merch because they are villains, but they rather buy other Villain Characters in Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss that are not Valentino or Glitz and Glam? Yeah, they really crossed the line this time.😑
At this point people only want to complain about anything related to hazbin/helluva just because
They’re upset about hh and hb villains getting merch, but if it was MHA or KNY they’d question why there isn’t merch for villains 😭
No, literally bc I've seen a little bit of villain merch for MHA. I bought a Dabi hoodie for my brother for his birthday, and he loves it bc Dabi is his favorite character. Doesn't mean he wants to commit arson or murder 37 ppl or bring upon the downfall of hero society. Ppl will care more about fictional characters than actual ppl. Hell, Toga is my favourite villain, but that doesn't mean I wanna steal people's blood and pretend to be them.
Have they never seen villian merch?😃….
Can we PLEASE stop paying attention to the opinions of Twitter users? They're almost always nonsense
Wish Vizie would learn this.
everybody’s in freaky outfits, it’s not like it’s solely glitz and glam, so i don’t see the issue :/
yea exactly, the whole point of the thing is to make them all seggzy
they think it's "twincest" It's not shipping each other or anything
@star5711 ehh yeah
They (glitz and glam) ramped up the sexual aspect of them being twins in Klown Bitch so I don't get why people are so surprised. They know that sex sells and the idea of two equally hot women who *might* be interested in a threesome package because "twins" will get them money. I could totally see them doing the "twincest" act like the Ouran Hitachiin twins.
It's because a lot of younger people are extremely against more of the kinky side of sexual content for some reason (if not outright mad at any).
No way! Adult shows having adult themes!? Who wouldve known.
Bro it's a fictional character. He is just a cartoon there for the purpose of story telling. He's got a cool design, he's a popular character, of fucking course he's gonna get merch. People are just looking for things to start drama about at this point
"There's been another Habzin Hotel Controversy" at this rate is this channel's motto.
If you have characters then make merch of them. I personally love Valentino as a character but not like as someone i want to be around. I like moths and the moth noises he makes in the show including his accent and character design.
But you have to admit it's a little bit iffy, since he's a grapist
l like these things of val too. (hes not my fav tho)
also doesn't it seem fitting for Val to have merch for Valentines since that's usually when people are more romantic and being with their partners?
@@caitlindavis3181 also his name is Valentino so that makes sense
@@ClaudiaMoi-r9v agreed, plus people do get freaky on Valentines so it's very fitting for him to have merch
Oh come ON!😭
I know, why don't they get a life?
Why do I feel like if Vivziepop didn’t make merch of Valentino at all the same ppl would complain anyway?-
@bambi_candyland9416 because that WOULD happen (considering how many controversies she's been in due to things relating to hazbin hotel/helluva boss)
@@bambi_candyland9416 But Vox is one of my favorite characters :(
@All_Fandoms645 I swear she can’t take a breath for at least 5 minutes- 😭
idk what’s going on with the glitz and glam merch rn but i have a identical twin and i don’t even know what the hell is the stereotype on twins in general :/
edit: before yall go through the thread i just want to say that i just found out the stereotype on twins and i just want to say that i’m not attacking no one that is using the stereotype for there characters like glitz and glam but reassure yourself that not every twin is like that.
I've seen it done before,(i.e. Ouran) but I also don't see a problem with it because you know, it's fiction.
It's more a douchebag stereotype lying about having a threesome with attractive twins to try and seem cool around other guys
@@draykohunter6805 In Ouran though they were doing that as a show because they knew the girls liked it, the characters themselves say it's just an act, so that isn't really a perfect example
@@draykohunter6805OURAN MENTIONED
@ActuallyYoda69 It's actually a perfect example because that's exactly why G&G are doing it too. It sells.
I swear there's new controversy every five seconds with this fandom
OF COURSE THE PEOPLE ARE OVERREACTING. Honestly, Valentino if you think about it is a good character. Him crashing out is funny, without him there wouldn’t be as much shows, and that it’s Angel’s problem he sold his soul to Val in the first place. And for Glitz and Glam, so what if they’re twins? So what if they’re in “interesting outfits?” First, it’s hell, it’s what they wear. And 2, I think it’s just people being picky and sensitive, instead of the merch being stereotyped
People are making mountains out of molehills. Villains have merch. Big woop.
I mean, I don’t blame them since Val is a rapist and all, if they think it’s weird, then good on them
It’s funny that the same people who like saying this also happen to like characters such as Fire Lord Sozin or William Afton
Yea I think the main problem is that he's a grapist.
You don't see many people with Frolo merch...
@@lemonsnapssbut he does murder innocent children and neglect his kids… it’s all fiction man 😭
@@lemonsnapss people don’t have to like Valentino, but it’s also not cool to harass people that do 😭. Not everyone who likes him romanticizes SA and the show is fiction, so again, what he does isn’t real. I’m just pointing out that people who like William Afton are not somehow morally better than people who like Valentino. They are both villains who do bad things.
@@lemonsnapss Never seen jaws. People have the right to not like it, but people ALSO have the right to buy it if they choose. If someone buys a William afton shirt it doesn’t mean they endorse murdering children lol
@@lemonsnapssas a rape victim William Afton is worse, and also what Val does doesn’t affect me, because he’s a fictional moth demon, crazy huh, not all rape victims are little snowflakes that need your protection, we can handle a fictional character getting merch
So the fandom is upset, that's news. Villain merch sells out, not surprising. Glitz and Glam being highly sexualised twins, that's the vast majority of their character until their next apearance on the show.
they're literally fictional characters. nobody is going to buy a Glitz without a Glam anyway, so it's just a good marketing idea to sell them as a set. Also they look great!
I feel like people are forgetting that these shows take place in LITERAL HELL. No shit there are gonna be really messed up villains, or really provocative imagery 😭
People will always find something to mad at
DUDE, GLITZ AND GLAM BEING FREAKING WIERD IS BOTH THEIR SKIT AND THEIR WHOLE POINT! They do what they do because Mammon loves it because freakier makes more money, its part of why Fizz quits because he will stick up for his personal limits
It's refreshing to see people who actually got that episode pointing this out. They're basically a reflection of how people will do anything to be famous and how those at the top will exploit the hell out of it. What's more we saw the horrible toll it takes on you through Fizz. I mean Fizz did a song about how he got used, followed it up with a speech, had Mammon threaten to kill him for trying to leave AND YET STILL they were only interested in if they won!
So yeah they're gonna be handy with each other for fame and money. I mean they literally sing the line "wanna sell my funny, sl**ty body to the masses".
Oh no... Merch of a evil character... Who would commit such a heinous act? *(Que all the fan-merch of horrible characters)*
wait till these ppl find out how much Bill Cipher merch exists lmaoo
Simple:
1. Like = Buy
2. Don't like = Don't buy
Yet in Ouran host club, no one cares about the twins 🙄
GET. OVER. IT.
Usually I don't care about the SpindleHorse drama. But the twin trope being used is just wrong.
@tulipplant9317 I just believe that it's a cartoon about Hell with fictional characters. These characters have, or will do, deplorable things. Glitz and Glam s*xualize themselves bcuz they are manipulating people of the greed ring for money for Mammon. They know it's a trope and a k*nk and "s*x sells." So they use it to their advantage. People gotta think; this is the same world where Jeffrey Dahmer and H*tler are walking around somewhere 😅 Most of these characters are embellished versions of situations people go through in life, but a lot of people don't act like The Vees. Rude, manipulative, self-serving, narcissistic, and ab*s*ve. But that's why they're in Hell. I had an ex like Valentino, but I still love the show. That's clearly why he is a perfect villain and a monster. And ALL the protagonists hate him! That couldn't be more clear he's not put on a pedestal. I wish I had friends like Angel who were there for me when I was with my Valentino. I can separate fiction and reality, tho, and not take this show so seriously. I honestly feel bad for my fellow survivors and victims, but if a show makes them relive their trauma, then they shouldn't watch it. ☹️ I've had to stop watching certain movies and shows I couldn't get thru bcuz it tr*ggered my PTSD and emotions, and that's okay. Them not watching Hazbin Hotel is also okay.
Sorry for the long a** comment 😅
@@late_gamer13 The problem isn't characters doing bad things. The problem is that the characters are being used to perpetuate a harmful stereotype that is common in media. The stereotype is harmful because it affects how twins are seen in real life.
@tulipplant9317 but anyone who is intelligent and not a creepy weirdo knows that's not true. They would be into the stereotype regardless of the show. Like I said, tho, it's an adult cartoon set in Hell, and they're in the greed ring. It's not meant to be taken to heart.
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You'd be surprised by how freak people can be.
I'm not saying that they are creating the stereotype, I'm saying the are further normalizing it.
I also feel like SpindleHorse is just capitalizing on the fetish too, which is just...
Like, I get that media creators think it's okay to draw sisters in those ways because it is done to death. But, I was very pleased to see the fandom call out the fetish because I have seen this fetish is many other media and always accepted.
People will find anything to criticize the Hellaverse for
But the twin thing is a valid reason to citicize tho
@@tulipplant9317I mean I guess it was a weird choice, but I was more referring to the Valentino merch
@@AbbyGaming910 true. I feel people should just get upset at the character rather than his merch if they don't like him.
A lot of these people probably have merch of the fucking Joker, who is MUCH WORSE than Valentino.
Glitz and Glam purposefully playing into the twin fantasy is a part of their character. Like literally, they want fame and money by becoming the top performers and new sex symbols of Hell. They had a whole song about how they'll play into any fantasy for money.
*Merchandise existing of The Joker, who is INSANELY more horrific and evil than Valentino*
Twitter: I'll allow it
*Merchandise existing of Valentino*
Twitter: Wait, that's illegal
I don’t whether to laugh or cry WHAT THE FUCK
I’d say cry from laughing cuz these haters are such snowflakes lmao 😂
Twin tropes is a valid reason to get upset tho
Have these people never seen Glitz and Glam perform?!
People have every right to get upset at the Glitz and Glam dynamic. I don't care if the escuse it, "The girls are exploiting the trope for money" because so is spindle apparently.
Seriously, people should feel their skin crawl when the see siblings grabbing eachothers butts, but you guys don't because you guys are freaks.
Who would how known? (Everyone)
Oh no, how dare Viv make valentines merch of the singular most valentines themed character design in the series. The travesty! Where is my fainting couch. 🙄
I think it's hilarious because we don't even know if glitz and Glam are actually twins. If we look at what is said, blitz says that it's their stick, not that it's their actuality
Fair point. It's possible that "The Glam Sisters" is just a catchy stage name, like Twisted Sister or Scissor Sisters
The best thing to say is: “Nobody cares :)”
they’re literally h/rny cartoon characters, what do they expect and why do they care?
I care about the twin trope because it is harmful representation
@ is it tho? Whats it harming?
@@GuhnomeArt It normalizes the sexualization of twins in real life. No one knows about this issue and it sucks.
@ I dunno, I wouldn’t say that for sure. While it’s definitely weird and sucks to sexualize that, people know hazbin is a weird show that’s for from normal. It’s hard to normalize something through an irregular and highly problematic format, so I don’t think this does much. I think since so many people hate it as well, it adds to the impossibility of normalization. Idk tho, I do get ur point. I don’t like it either, I just don’t care enough to be mad about it
@@GuhnomeArt Well no, I mean, the trope is already normalized in media. That's probably why Spindle did it without thinking. They didn't realize it was an issue.
Kinda like the Alastor Voodoo thing.
Certain things get popular in the media and we need to break away from these harmful tropes.
For instance, right, I'm a twin. I'm fraternal, but me and my sister look identical. And I can say, people try to project the trope on you because idk people just don't see twins as siblings, but rather clones.
I've seen other twins treated the same way too.
Nothing can exist without someone getting mad
So, are these "fans" or haters gonna go after Disney next since they sell merchandise of their villains FOR DECADES, RIGHT? Never mind, there were the villain themed clubs for Disney adults for some Halloweens. Plus, now we're getting a Villains themed area in the parks cause there's a huge investment from Disney adults who want villain themed stuff.
As for the twin thing, I can get it. It's gotta suck for twins who get fetishized irl and I can't blame them. Not great that the trope is still being used, although I don't think it should garner that much hate. Legit criticism, yes. And if twins don't like it, don't want to deal with it, or don't wanna watch it, that's fine. But haters shouldn't act like Helluva Boss is where they should solely direct their blame at. Granted, aiming their blame at something physical like Viv, the crew, and show is a lot easier than trying to dismantle an abstract concept that's been used for decades in so many media, you can't just blame it away on a single entity. There's no need to dogpile on HB.
I'm hating that everyone on Twitter is trying to make constant hot takes that still garner traction even though they're not that well thought out or good. And it encourages this whole "if you consume/like this media you're bad" type of vibe. And social media rewards haters through the algorithm. Seriously, why are we judging others or basing others' identities on what we consume? We all know we're more complex than that. Right? I'm just being rhetorical here, but man, do people have anything else better to do on their limited time on earth besides hating on fans and shows?
the twins is the one i think is valid, i think art of villains is fine for the most part.
the twins are just weird to have merch of like that, even if you’re not a twin? two sisters, holding each others cleavage and dripping liquid onto them? and it’s in either mouth, which implies the other one has to like their sisters breasts to get it off (and vice versa)? it’s just odd to make OFFICIAL art of. the pole dancing one you can say is a bit more harmless, but they’re still scissoring each other if the pole wasn’t there. it’s just odd, and i completely understand the criticism behind this one. it’s just Twitter so all the valid criticism usually gets drowned out by the more “you suck” kinda comments
As someone who has a twin I couldn’t care less about Glitz and Glam merch, I want to buy some of it actually
The only valid criticism is that Helluva Boss didn’t have Ms. Mayberry X Martha sexy standees, because I would’ve 100% bought those in a fucking HEARTBEAT.
Don't they tho?
Honestly people overreact on these things,I mean it’s the CREATORS choice on who she was too add in the merch.If they don’t like it then don’t even buy it at all-
Thats too dificult thing to do. "I gotta hate on it cause i can't stand seeing it" (sarcasm)
They always have to whine because Vivzie took a too big of a breath 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
*Sees the word 'furious'*
*my mind: This shit is gonna be about Valentino aint it..*
Those types of "fans" just need to shut the hell up
Won't even call them "fans" at this point since all they do is bitch and complain about the dumbest shit.
Blitz: Yeah FUCK hotels!!
Scar: Long, live, the king!
Hercules: Exactly. (Pulls out his sword) let's get down to business
(Idk the name lol) Sheng: Hey that's my line!
Bruno: am I just forgotten?
(Why did I I do this? 😂)
Even if the twins being provocative is a problematic trope, I think Glitz and Glam would totally play into it, its like their whole schtick, so I don't mind it.
Viv can't even step out of her house without someone hating on her and blowing up Twitter about it 💀💀💀
She be starting arguments on Twitter wdym ?😭
@EPIKCHICKEnopeNBUTSECOND
@EPIKCHICKENBUTSECOND explain, please 😅
@LittleBeanHere you don’t believe that Vivzie is the one starting arguments on Twitter, or making fusses over anything? Not at all-? No?
@EPIKCHICKENBUTSECOND I never said that, I just wanna know :>
The moment new merch came out, I thought “Lemme guess, there’s gonna be a controversy”
And guess what, there is. Very expected
"Grrr villains shouldn't have merch raaah bad!!!"
Says you with your professor robotnik shirt
Or what about your love for Adam's song huh
It’s the same thing every time it’s just expected that there’s drama whenever they drop merch and it’s always the same shit that literally doesn’t matter
For the record, the twins thing is a trope, not a stereotype. For something to be a stereotype, it would have to be a stereotype OF something.
I have been trying to get the Val merch but it sold out :(
I want it sooo bad😢
vivziepop breathes
everyone: *BLASPHEMY*
I think the more important problem is the bots buying up all the rarer merch like the crackled ice cards or lucifer merch before fans can get them, I tryed to buy the lucifer keychain and it was sold out in seconds probably by a bot scalper😢
I am from Spain and I go to high school, and a classmate from Belgium has a Lucifer keychain on her backpack, I think she is one of those who bought that merchandise, I would also like that key ring
Val gets merch-
The fandom:😡😡😡😡
I thought the twins as set up like that reminded me of PSG where they had the angels set up in similar way. So I thought it was a reference to that. 😅