Thanks, buddy. I just try and be honest, treat people how I like to be treated, I do try and remember the value of money and I do realise not everyone can afford the real thing but people need to know there is definitely a trade off with these copies, cheers mate appreciate it 👍
Spot on, as you would say, they’re called knock offs for a reason, quite often no where near as good. Sometimes, it’s worth the price, and you and I have both agreed, the Devilbliss gti is very much a value for money gun. Between that, and the Meiji, you’re in there
Never Buy the cheap imitations. They may look similar, but they are junk. There is a science to all the ports & Holes in the gun. The size of, and the angle of these holes and the distance between them is key to the atomization & itemization of the metallics and clears. The Devilbiss GTi pro / Tekna pro is an excellent gun. I have used many guns in the last 30 years. The Tekna was one of the best all around guns. 7E7 cap (te20) and the 909 cap were amazingly good. I was having a hard time with some metallic grey color when a rep came in with a Tekna gun. I put the 909 cap on and sprayed the grey and it was so good i bought one the same day. I sprayed single stage with the 7E7 cap and my boss at the time bought one as well. He had not used a different gun in over 20 years. I was shocked that he made the change , but the Tekna was that good !
I've never sprayed with the real thing, but I've sprayed at 3 1/2 turns out fan about one turn in from full out and and 28 psi and you have to move rather quick and it did a very good job !
Hi mate, this has a very small wet pattern, so fluid in is definitely a good place to go. It's perfectly possible to get results with the copy, but it really is very different from the original, ironically, the original would be much better suited to the person starting out, I suspect however, it's normally the other way round, obviously due to cost, cheers buddy, appreciate the comments 👍
I agree Pete I brought a couple for my shop to try just to see what these things go like and yer the cap seal last about 3 months max of daily use the pattern is centre heavy but they do spray ok ..
One of the problems with the copies is being able to get that white sealing gasket, it's not the same as the genuine guns and as you say is the first thing to go normally, cheers mate, thank you 👍
Thanks Pete for the good info , you don’t have to worry about me buying a GTI Pro Lite copy no thanks I’ll pass . LOL . Glad to hear you got over your flu bug . Have a good one .
Hi mate, I think there is a place for them. Having said that, there are others out there that are better and certainly better as an all-rounder and priced the same. Thanks for watching buddy, much appreciated 👍
Thank you Pete, Yes, still alive, Bought a couple of copies, just to do a comparision, these are no where near the real thing, in every way, I just could not get myself to use them. Yes they function, but for how long and their destination has always been the BIN. Just keep to my normal genuine guns.
Hi Niam, good to hear from you, mate 🙂 , I don't use mine only for this sort of thing, as you say, it is difficult to build the want to use them as compared to the real thing they are quite crude, cheers buddy 👍
Hi Ken, I think the fact that it's still going now after some time is testament to you making the right decision, the copy's are ok if your on a budget but people mustn't expect them to last long particularly if you need a relatively small service part, as you can't get them, cheers mate 👍
I had a gti pro lite clone with a TE20 cap. It was a purple one off Amazon if that matters. It had a very similar pattern to the the original you have and it laid clear coat very nicely
Hi buddy, sounds like you were lucky, I've had 3 of these and seen another 4, all different colors and makes, all the caps, although marked differently, are the same. Build quality isn't good, particularly good. The Ntools 4000B is a miles better gun for less money
I think I definitely got lucky all around. I paid about $40 for it and it lasted as a sealer gun for about 9 months before the seals went out. I still have the needle, nozzle, and cap if you want to try it out
I bought a Tekna compressor 100 liters 3hp 15 pes I'm starting out in the garage I wanted a good gun it could be a Chinese replica in the future if business goes well I'll buy a professional brand. great video
Hi Pete, interesting video and the difference between those 2 guns is huge, if anyone thinks that the copy ProLite sprays as good as the original they are either complete liars or obviously haven't used the genuine GTI ProLite plus you can tell by that fan pattern which surprised ne when I saw it just now that the two are totally different🙄😆 When you sent me this gun to try I could tell as soon as I picked it up it just felt cheap and cheerful (was going to put nasty but that is a bit to strong) but it does squirt paint about and you can get a half decent job from it but IMO if you want a budget gun then put a bit more money down and get the Astro, I don't know how much more the Astro is compared to this gun but it's so much better to use👏👍 Thanks Pete and thanks again for the loan of this gun and the Astro👌🙏👍
Hi John, I knew there was a difference in the patern, but it really is quite stark. As you know, the T110 cap can produce a very flat finish, so I thought it fitting that these caps were pitted against each other as they are both reputein to be the same thing which of course they are not. The Astro is around twice the price of these, depending where you buy it, I'll do a video against the NVE of this copy, I think I know the winner, cheers, buddy 👍
The difference between the 2 fan patters took me by surprise I knew it wouldn't be the same but that was a big difference. If I'm using the GTI for clear I always use the T110 cap as it produces the sort of finish I like, the TE10 I use for base I also have the TE20 but I haven't used that for ages. As you said in the video all the caps on the copy guns are the same, I recon a lot of people have got all those caps thinking they have got the full range like the genuine GTI no knowing they are all the same🙄😜 It would be good to see the NVE being used again as that gun isn't to bad, I wonder if the Ntools GTI ProLite copy is better than the Amazeeo version you have Pete🤔
@JohnWD40TC02 Hi John, No, Ntools just stick their name on them. They are all the same. One I had was an Ntools, no difference. You or I could place an order for 1000 of these and put whatever we ask for on the side, cheers mate 👍
On a non Devilbiss related issue, I came back after I noticed you'd warmed the paint up in a previous review and I came to ask about it! So you use a microwave... I'd never thought of doing this but painting in the UK in November in an unheated garage and you are up against it a bit! Any pointers? TA!
Hi Buddy, I wouldn't recommend it for obvious reasons, but yes, it's how I warm clears, base, and primers these days. If the ambient temperature is say, around 10c, I do 10 seconds per mixed 100ml, there are many advantages, with clears it helps them flow and helps them to go off, with base it helps it go off faster in the cooler weather, same for primer. The only disadvantage is if you have a lot to do, it goes off faster, that's only applicable to 2k products, of course
@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks for letting me know! I usually do a panel at a time anyway, I'll dig out a pyrometer and give some a warm with a hairdryer the next time time I've a bit to do! Yeah, for 2K lacquer, I've never made such a mess as I did a couple of weeks ago on a boot! So bad it was embarassing! Good job it was my own car.
Hi Mate, this compares real and fake guns. The caps are interchangeable to a certain extent, it also does most of the work, ua-cam.com/video/tkGc3G9g_G4/v-deo.html
What's your thoughts on ordering off of Amazon specifically the IWATA LS400 AND WS400 .... I CAN SEND YOU A LINK IF THATLL HELP GIVE ME A BETTER ANSWER
Hello Pete, I always notice that you start spraying a little air before starting to spray paint. Is it because you want to adjust the regulator correctly for the right air pressure? Also, is your contact with Paint Japan always with Instagram? Do you actually have their email address? I know I am asking too many questions because I want to understand your painting technique. I hope everything is good with you. Take care.
Hi Mate, I normally do that just to bring the initial serge of air under control. These days, I use a diaphragm regulator at the gun as well as in-line, so it isn't really necessary, but I do it anyway. Yes, I only have contact with paintingtool_jp on Instagram through the messenger system on there, I say what I want, and they give me the price and send a PayPal invoice, when paid they send the goods
Hi Dean, Yes, mate, I do understand, I do wonder though if it hurts a manufacturer that much, sure blatant exact copies being sold as the real thing is a no no. I know some that buy these just wouldn't spend big money on any spraygun but also others that go on to buy the real thing. I know a few that have done just that, me included, I bought a Chinese W101 and was so impressed with it I bought a few of the real things. Hope you are back OK from the holidays, I really like this time of year, it's just a shame winters round the corner. Cheers, Dean 👍
In China, this kind of fake gti is very cheap. about 1-200 RMB. Of course, there are also have very good ones。 Maybe ,Peter you can take a look at the warte dv1 . it does a very good job. but also the price is on the high side, about 600-700 RMB.
Hi buddy, that is cheap. In the UK, we pay around 500 RMB for these Gti Pro Lite guns. I have an NVE gun, like the DV1. Is the Warte DV1 different? , can't seem to find it on a search. Here's the one I have, ua-cam.com/video/35DeKHMBqOs/v-deo.html
The warte is more similar in construction. It's probably better. The warte is a good brand in China. You can search for warte 980B or warte hero in your browser. It is said that warte hero is a spray gun with axalta paint certification.
I personally have a minijet 4400 made of warte and a SATA minijet 4400. It's basically the same, the quality and texture are good,。the parts are universal.
Thank you. You just answered my question about the T110 air cap for clear coats.
Thanks, mate, much appreciated 👍
Thanks Pete! You always tell it like it is! No BS!
Thanks, buddy. I just try and be honest, treat people how I like to be treated, I do try and remember the value of money and I do realise not everyone can afford the real thing but people need to know there is definitely a trade off with these copies, cheers mate appreciate it 👍
Spot on, as you would say, they’re called knock offs for a reason, quite often no where near as good. Sometimes, it’s worth the price, and you and I have both agreed, the Devilbliss gti is very much a value for money gun. Between that, and the Meiji, you’re in there
Never Buy the cheap imitations. They may look similar, but they are junk. There is a science to all the ports & Holes in the gun. The size of, and the angle of these holes and the distance between them is key to the atomization & itemization of the metallics and clears. The Devilbiss GTi pro / Tekna pro is an excellent gun. I have used many guns in the last 30 years. The Tekna was one of the best all around guns. 7E7 cap (te20) and the 909 cap were amazingly good. I was having a hard time with some metallic grey color when a rep came in with a Tekna gun. I put the 909 cap on and sprayed the grey and it was so good i bought one the same day. I sprayed single stage with the 7E7 cap and my boss at the time bought one as well. He had not used a different gun in over 20 years. I was shocked that he made the change , but the Tekna was that good !
Hi Frank, I couldn't agree more with what you have said 👍
I've never sprayed with the real thing, but I've sprayed at 3 1/2 turns out fan about one turn in from full out and and 28 psi and you have to move rather quick and it did a very good job !
Hi mate, this has a very small wet pattern, so fluid in is definitely a good place to go.
It's perfectly possible to get results with the copy, but it really is very different from the original, ironically, the original would be much better suited to the person starting out, I suspect however, it's normally the other way round, obviously due to cost, cheers buddy, appreciate the comments 👍
I agree Pete I brought a couple for my shop to try just to see what these things go like and yer the cap seal last about 3 months max of daily use the pattern is centre heavy but they do spray ok ..
One of the problems with the copies is being able to get that white sealing gasket, it's not the same as the genuine guns and as you say is the first thing to go normally, cheers mate, thank you 👍
Another great video thanks
I appreciate it, mate, and thank you for watching 👍
Very good mate. Cheers from Kiwi
Hi buddy, thank you. I hope all is well with you. I guess you're looking forward to some more spray productive weather, cheers, mate 👍
Great & neaded video review, I'm a pro lite man & try telling people that the copy guns are just copies &:it ends there, so well done
Hi Graham, Thanks, mate, much appreciated 👍
Thanks Pete for the good info , you don’t have to worry about me buying a GTI Pro Lite copy no thanks I’ll pass . LOL . Glad to hear you got over your flu bug . Have a good one .
Hi mate, I think there is a place for them. Having said that, there are others out there that are better and certainly better as an all-rounder and priced the same. Thanks for watching buddy, much appreciated 👍
Thank you Pete, Yes, still alive, Bought a couple of copies, just to do a comparision, these are no where near the real thing, in every way, I just could not get myself to use them. Yes they function, but for how long and their destination has always been the BIN. Just keep to my normal genuine guns.
Hi Niam, good to hear from you, mate 🙂 , I don't use mine only for this sort of thing, as you say, it is difficult to build the want to use them as compared to the real thing they are quite crude, cheers buddy 👍
Thnaks Pete! I feel better having spent $450 or whatever it was back then for the real thing.
Hi Ken, I think the fact that it's still going now after some time is testament to you making the right decision, the copy's are ok if your on a budget but people mustn't expect them to last long particularly if you need a relatively small service part, as you can't get them, cheers mate 👍
I had a gti pro lite clone with a TE20 cap. It was a purple one off Amazon if that matters. It had a very similar pattern to the the original you have and it laid clear coat very nicely
Hi buddy, sounds like you were lucky, I've had 3 of these and seen another 4, all different colors and makes, all the caps, although marked differently, are the same.
Build quality isn't good, particularly good. The Ntools 4000B is a miles better gun for less money
I think I definitely got lucky all around. I paid about $40 for it and it lasted as a sealer gun for about 9 months before the seals went out. I still have the needle, nozzle, and cap if you want to try it out
@thomasjustice5364 Yeah, it sounds like you were lucky. Thanks for the offer , I may take you up on it one day , cheers, buddy 👍
I bought a Tekna compressor 100 liters 3hp 15 pes I'm starting out in the garage I wanted a good gun it could be a Chinese replica in the future if business goes well I'll buy a professional brand. great video
Hi buddy, thank you. Good luck with your new venture 👍
Hi Pete, interesting video and the difference between those 2 guns is huge, if anyone thinks that the copy ProLite sprays as good as the original they are either complete liars or obviously haven't used the genuine GTI ProLite plus you can tell by that fan pattern which surprised ne when I saw it just now that the two are totally different🙄😆
When you sent me this gun to try I could tell as soon as I picked it up it just felt cheap and cheerful (was going to put nasty but that is a bit to strong) but it does squirt paint about and you can get a half decent job from it but IMO if you want a budget gun then put a bit more money down and get the Astro, I don't know how much more the Astro is compared to this gun but it's so much better to use👏👍
Thanks Pete and thanks again for the loan of this gun and the Astro👌🙏👍
Hi John, I knew there was a difference in the patern, but it really is quite stark.
As you know, the T110 cap can produce a very flat finish, so I thought it fitting that these caps were pitted against each other as they are both reputein to be the same thing which of course they are not.
The Astro is around twice the price of these, depending where you buy it, I'll do a video against the NVE of this copy, I think I know the winner, cheers, buddy 👍
The difference between the 2 fan patters took me by surprise I knew it wouldn't be the same but that was a big difference. If I'm using the GTI for clear I always use the T110 cap as it produces the sort of finish I like, the TE10 I use for base I also have the TE20 but I haven't used that for ages.
As you said in the video all the caps on the copy guns are the same, I recon a lot of people have got all those caps thinking they have got the full range like the genuine GTI no knowing they are all the same🙄😜
It would be good to see the NVE being used again as that gun isn't to bad, I wonder if the Ntools GTI ProLite copy is better than the Amazeeo version you have Pete🤔
@JohnWD40TC02 Hi John, No, Ntools just stick their name on them. They are all the same. One I had was an Ntools, no difference.
You or I could place an order for 1000 of these and put whatever we ask for on the side, cheers mate 👍
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On a non Devilbiss related issue, I came back after I noticed you'd warmed the paint up in a previous review and I came to ask about it! So you use a microwave... I'd never thought of doing this but painting in the UK in November in an unheated garage and you are up against it a bit! Any pointers? TA!
Hi Buddy, I wouldn't recommend it for obvious reasons, but yes, it's how I warm clears, base, and primers these days.
If the ambient temperature is say, around 10c, I do 10 seconds per mixed 100ml, there are many advantages, with clears it helps them flow and helps them to go off, with base it helps it go off faster in the cooler weather, same for primer.
The only disadvantage is if you have a lot to do, it goes off faster, that's only applicable to 2k products, of course
@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks for letting me know! I usually do a panel at a time anyway, I'll dig out a pyrometer and give some a warm with a hairdryer the next time time I've a bit to do! Yeah, for 2K lacquer, I've never made such a mess as I did a couple of weeks ago on a boot! So bad it was embarassing! Good job it was my own car.
could you switch the caps? i guess a lot is caused by the airflow and the main part to create it, is the cap. fake pistol + orig. cap = perfect?
Hi Mate, this compares real and fake guns. The caps are interchangeable to a certain extent, it also does most of the work,
ua-cam.com/video/tkGc3G9g_G4/v-deo.html
What's your thoughts on ordering off of Amazon specifically the IWATA LS400 AND WS400 .... I CAN SEND YOU A LINK IF THATLL HELP GIVE ME A BETTER ANSWER
Hi buddy, normally, Amazon is fine . Are you on Instagram or Facebook? You can message me there with a link. I don't think you can put links here
Hello Pete, I always notice that you start spraying a little air before starting to spray paint. Is it because you want to adjust the regulator correctly for the right air pressure? Also, is your contact with Paint Japan always with Instagram? Do you actually have their email address? I know I am asking too many questions because I want to understand your painting technique. I hope everything is good with you. Take care.
Hi Mate, I normally do that just to bring the initial serge of air under control. These days, I use a diaphragm regulator at the gun as well as in-line, so it isn't really necessary, but I do it anyway.
Yes, I only have contact with paintingtool_jp on Instagram through the messenger system on there, I say what I want, and they give me the price and send a PayPal invoice, when paid they send the goods
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you for being such a good teacher for everyone who is watching your vids. Cheers :-))
@windsurfingphd Your welcome buddy, thanks for watching the videos 👍
You know my views so not banging on Pete cheers 😊😊😊
Hi Dean, Yes, mate, I do understand, I do wonder though if it hurts a manufacturer that much, sure blatant exact copies being sold as the real thing is a no no.
I know some that buy these just wouldn't spend big money on any spraygun but also others that go on to buy the real thing.
I know a few that have done just that, me included, I bought a Chinese W101 and was so impressed with it I bought a few of the real things.
Hope you are back OK from the holidays, I really like this time of year, it's just a shame winters round the corner. Cheers, Dean 👍
In China, this kind of fake gti is very cheap. about 1-200 RMB. Of course, there are also have very good ones。 Maybe ,Peter you can take a look at the warte dv1 . it does a very good job. but also the price is on the high side, about 600-700 RMB.
Hi buddy, that is cheap. In the UK, we pay around 500 RMB for these Gti Pro Lite guns.
I have an NVE gun, like the DV1. Is the Warte DV1 different? , can't seem to find it on a search. Here's the one I have,
ua-cam.com/video/35DeKHMBqOs/v-deo.html
The warte is more similar in construction. It's probably better. The warte is a good brand in China. You can search for warte 980B or warte hero in your browser. It is said that warte hero is a spray gun with axalta paint certification.
I personally have a minijet 4400 made of warte and a SATA minijet 4400. It's basically the same, the quality and texture are good,。the parts are universal.
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What's up, buddy ✌️