Sardonicast 101: Eternals, Antichrist
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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Timestamps!
0:00 Intro, Ralph the Sussy Baka
1:10 Ridley Scott blames millennials for The Last Duel bombing
5:30 Vin Diesel pleads with The Rock to return to The Fast and the Furious 10
10:06 Eternals Discussion
12:19 Eternals Discussion (spoilers begin)
39:22 Antichrist Discussion (spoilers)
1:12:57 Pizza Time! I mean question time!
1:13:12 What is the most physical reaction you’ve ever had to a movie?
1:14:27 Is there a movie-watching experience that is so bad and annoying you couldn’t actually pay attention to the film? What movie was it and what happened?
1:18:52 Question for Adum: once upon a time, you joined the Movie Fights organized by Screen Junkies. How was that experience?
1:23:10 In the age of excessive CGI and green screen (a lot of it being pretty dogshit), what are some films that really use their locations to the greatest extent they can?
1:24:51 Since the Nikocado Avocado thing, what is your guys’ stance on body shaming?
1:29:08 Do you have any guilty pleasure shows?
1:35:43 Are there any notable examples of movies you used to enjoy ironically that you now appreciate in a more serious way?
1:36:57 Adum recommends Satantango
Great episode boys! I just joined the patreon; figured I owed you guys after 100 episodes. Super relate to Alex’s “trapped in the movie theater” experience with Eternals. I was super over it like 10 minutes in, stuck it out and gave it 1/5 on Letterboxd lol. Anyway, here’s to another hundred episodes! I’ll try to watch Satantango before the next one lol, hope it’s not too long. Happy Shrek!
Aaaah nice, ya beat me to it!
thanks michael scott
Thanks, Steve Carell!
@@NeverSaySandwich1 I didn't realise that Nicole Arbour had alt accounts.
How is this comment 4 days old?
Glad Ralph is back in his toilet. I was worried about his bowel movement
No comments? Very profound.
What the world needs is a Ridley Scott and David Lynch roundtable discussion about cell phones
Get real...
Honestly I’d kill to hear the great filmmakers who are all old but still working discuss how they feel our film culture has changed. That would unironically be a fascinating discussion. It would be iconic.
Scorsese can have a seat and complain about Marvel capeshit movies.
@@zenleeparadise there's a cool video where James Cameron and Denis Villeneuve talk to each other and they also discuss the challenges and the possibilities that streaming offers, it's very interesting :)
@@goodial I’ll have to look this up, thanks!
relieved Ralph moved his recording setup back to the soup can with a piece of string
I’ll trade Ralph’s good audio for this level of enthusiasm on this episode any day
For real. It felt like an old school sard video, Ralph's bad audio and all.
Ralph is in good spirits as he records from his epic cocaine empire villa in the deepest, most remotes jungles of Columbia.
He’s off the pot it sounds like, good for him genuinely
@@iamnotthatguy7166 Adam uses weed. Not sure why that has anything to do with anything. Blaming weed is just using it as an excuse to not look further into the problem
@@darrinfromvault801 yeah as someone who smokes constantly it’s really not good for you, it’s abundantly clear in some of Ralph’s uploads he’s stoned off his mind and not in the right head space, it’s a waste of time and money.
It's nice. The worse Ralph's audio gets, the more enthusiastic he sounds on Sardonicast. Great Episode
When RedLetterMedia calls him "the elderly filmmaker Ridley Scott", I never knew how goddamn accurate that elderly statement is
He just really wants everyone to know that he loves Beavis and Butthead. (ua-cam.com/video/y01RdvuG7g0/v-deo.html)
haha that interview clip Jay reads in the blade runner re:view where he goes on a rant is amazing
i love beavis and butthead
...? what?? hahah
William Defoe carries every movie he's ever starred in. He gets help on occasion, but he's always the standout.
Never thought the sound of ralph having terrible audio would make me nostalgic
Just watched eternals with 7 different people and we were more entertained by our dog moving around in his sleep, somebody would go "yo look he's on his back lmao" and we would all look just to escape the movie lmao.
Good story, short and to the point 👍
Lmao Adam talking about him asking the woman with the baby in the theater to step outside, then a bunch of people defending the woman instead, and describing that as a Larry David moment is so spot on. I could 100% see that being a plot in a curb episode
Can’t believe Ralph just sat there and let Adum mispronounce Gucci over and over. Italy will have its revenge.
Gonna watch Irreversible starring Monica Belukki
Ralph is a bad Italian. I’ve heard him pronounce Italian words like a total mangiacake himself.
I got to hand it to Disney for their handling of the Eternals, they somehow made a movie that managed to appeal to nobody besides r/Marvel users, like the premise is too vague to hook the average movie goer, it’s still too generic for fans of cinema, it’s been too “MCU-ified” to appeal to the few fans of the OG Jack Kirby comic, and it’s just too stupid to appeal to any of the fans of the Neil Gaiman run
Agreed. Beautiful profile pic, BTW.
It had plenty of problems but tbh everything that I go into a Marvel movie for I got with it, so I really can't complain
It does appeal to 1 tiny demographic though: the ones who care about diversity over a good story.
@@esyphillis101 Oh boy not this argument again
@@esyphillis101 marvel included diversity because it would make them more money, stop pretending that "woke" statement made by massive corporations are in any way representative of the actual progressive ideas they were based off of.
Ralph's toilet audio is my favourite recurring character.
"Public plea" makes it sound as if Vin Diesel is in The Rock's driveway holding a boom box over his head.
Great to hear Ralph in high spirits - hope you're doin' alright man :)
speaking of crying babies ruining movies, at the cinema I work for we actually have Parent & Baby screenings specifically for parents with babies or very young children can attend. The lights aren't turned down all the way, the volume is slightly lower, all so parents who are stuck with their kids can still see some of the latest releases without disturbing regular film goers. We do allow non-parents in too, though they are warned that there will be babies present, so they can't complain about any crying or parents cooing.
This genuinely sounds like a nightmare,
1:27:06 in Ireland, Subway was told they may have to start calling their bread “cake” because of the amount of sugar in it.
This is a Ralph appreciation comment. Ralph stans rise up. Gib Ralph.
I love Ralph the sussy Baka
We love our sussy baka
Really glad to hear Ralph sounding more lively.
I love how in the 100th episode they were like "yeah Ralph's audio problems havent shown up in a while" and immediately the next episode he sounds like shit 💀
Regardless of Ridley Scott's "old man yelling at clouds" mentality, The Last Duel was actually incredible, one of his best films in my opinion.
Definitely WAYYY better than House of Gucci.
Besides some getting mad over THAT scene, agreed.
Definitely his best movie in years.
My "favourite" theatre experience is when my friend and I went to see a 10 PM showing of Nocturnal Animals and some lady brought her toddler. To a very adult, rape-revenge movie. My parents would've had me in bed by 7 at that age, let alone would've never brought me to something like that. Anyways the kid wasn't really paying attention to the movie (of course) so he was talking out loud and playing on an iPad. And eventually the only other guy in the theatre finally stood up and just said "SHUT THE FUCK UP!" Not even "please tell your kid to be quiet." It was hilarious. So they walked out and 15 minutes later came back with the staff and then THAT GUY left because he figured he was getting kicked out. When really the staff wanted to hear all sides of the story so my friend and I got free passes to another movie.
Still, I cannot fathom why you would bring your toddler to that movie, at such a late show for that matter. I think about that at least once a week.
Anybody who brings a toddler to a movie for non-toddlers is automatically in the wrong, so there's no need to hear both sides. If I had a theatre, they'd either be banned, or there'd be a glassed in "crying room" where small children and their parents could sit. My local theatre had one, and it was very popular.
And the kids on an iPad. Jesus what abhorrible parent
I'm only 15 hours into episode 100, I'll be back once I've finished it.
thanks for the update drillur
I think Spring (2014) uses the Italian location really well to set up a mood of ancient romance with a touch of menace to set up the themes of the movie.
I can actually hear Ralph, good job Ralph
Satantango is a film I think deserves its runtime. I also say that since it's my third favorite film of all time
I would watch it, but I need to get the original book
What are your #1 and #2?
@@corpuschristicarol2509 Stalker and Ulysses' Gaze
Adam gave it a 5/10 lol
@@nota_2526 Yeah it's difficult to know what films he will or won't like
i love the stupidity of actor contracts.
"can't lose a fight." is such a Egotistical thing, it just makes you look bad.
It's funny how he used to be a wrestler.
“It’s kinda Tarkovsky”
Antichrist is Lars con Trier doing Tarkovsky. The long, slow, atmospheric takes, the jaded character dialogue, even the woods are reminiscent of the Zone from Stalker.
Nice to see Ralph recording from his toilet again
At least that movie isn't a mauler podcast
What movie?
I wonder if Ridley from Metroid is more famous than Ridley Scott now because of Smash Bros. If so, I can understand why he doesn’t like young people.
That becomes funnier or more ironic when you consider that not only did Ridley get his name as a reference to Scott himself, but his several designs featured lots of inspiration from the xenomorph, whether intentional or unintentional.
AntiChrist’s sound design is excellent freaking me out wonderfully.
Unlike Ralph’s audio
I literally kept checking my youtube notifications every day for the past three weeks waiting for this.
People say that shit about every generation that is currently the teen-20something generation.
True. Old people always bitch about young people and it's stupid. They're hypocritical and narcissitic. For the most part, humanity generally gets better over time. Future generations will make us look dumb, prejudiced, and incompetent.
I'm so excited for the Sátántangó discussion!!!!!:D:D:D
Someone’s probably mentioned this but could vin diesel’s public callout to the rock, poorly mimic the rock’s wrestling career? Didn’t wrestlers make public callouts to opponents in the ring? I dunno. Just a thought.
I live in the uae, and yes they did edit out every scene where two people kiss, it made the experience funnier
So the gay couple is there but they just dont kiss?
@@danieltrevinoc yeah that's it
That's pretty funny
So much for being inclusive lol
Incredible!
This episode should’ve opened with
“CHAOS…REIGNS…
Hello this is Adam”
This kinda feels like early Sardonicast maybe just Ralph's audio
It seems like Ridley Scott wants to recapture the magic of Gladiator or Alien in every movie he’s made since.
1:09:28 - Von Trier has stated Tarkovsky is an influence frequently, and there are various shots in his films that you could say references e.g. Willem Dafoe's character standing in the bushes before he sees the fox is a reference to the opening shot of Solaris
Love you Ralph ❤
The best thing about that Vin Diesel post is that he used a photoshopped pic of the two that made him look bigger than Dwayne lol
1:09:45
In regards to Tarkovsky, Antichrist forest scenes remind me a lot of Stalker and the relationship of defoe and gainsbourg reminds me of the two leads in solaris
A lot of sequences in the film also remind me of ones in Mirror as well.
Yeah dedicating this movie to Tarkovsky was a sick joke... but a pretty good one 😊
me and my friend went to go see candyman in theaters and some lady decided to bring a whole row of kids and didnt even supervise them, a whole ROW of kids from like age 7-17 were in the row behind us and the entire movie were saying loud dumb comments, playing music from their phone, stomping and running around, throwing popcorn at an emo couple etc etc, around an hour in we decided to leave and tell the employees about it, we got a coupon for a free movie that expires next june, the lady sat away from her kids too like in the middle of the theater while the kids were at the furthest row from the screen, idk why she brought those demon children
I would've just started throwing kids
@@maschaorsomething lol u would have to go thru the whole gang and then the mom as the final boss
9:45 Vin Diesel is generally, a weird guy, to say the least. There was the time he made a Brazilian interviewer really uncomfortable and then she was harrassed on the internet. It's just celebrity personality I guess, like most movie stars are probably sociopaths (? but he does do weird things and because he's a rich dude and is the main producer in one of the biggest movie franchises of all time, no one stops him from saying stupid shit.
Ralph seems a lot more lively and involved this episode, hopefully it continues that way
He's got into crack
@@citizen3000 ikr
@@ThatCringeCalledIggleboz It has perked him right up and he's been saying on the socials that he's keen to take more crack and more often
@@citizen3000 where does he say he does crack
On the conversation of a movie ruining experience i had to check an old instagram post to see what movie it wouldve been but there was a movie that cut out halfway through and they had to refund everyone because it just green screened and wouldnt come back on, it was that bad movie the internship with vince vaughn and owen wilson and i DID NOT go back to finish watching that movie
No ones gonna mention that Ralph was replaced by a robot replica
1:14:53 His name is Carlos Vermut, and he's been a pretty amazing director so far. I wished his early film, _Diamond Flash_ , was more widely available.
Lars von Trier is like if Norm McDonald was an art house film auteur. I love him.
7:29 "Innit" - Alex (IHE) 2021.
if all adam has seen/knows about the last duel is the trailer then i understand him thinking it looks average. He also liked Alien less than the other guys so maybe Ridley Scott doesn't connect with him as much.
I personally really enjoyed The Last Duel and can't wait to hopefully hear the boys talk about it!
The Last Duel is very average though. What's unique about it? Adam Driver and Jodie Comer are great, Damon is mediocre and Affleck is laughable. The dialog isn't great and, (apart from the action scenes) it's shot in a very boring way.
@@UncleErnie71 I'd disagree with the shots not being very interesting but there's a lot more to it than just those technical aspects IMO. I thought it was a really intersting way to explore rape culture through a medieval lense and the structure of it was incredibly engaging to me. It was not "somthing i've seen a million times before" like Adam was expecting based off of the trailer
ya i was gonna skip last duel based on very meh trailer but heard it was structured in an interesting way and gave it a shot. I really enjoyed it - bit long but that was about my only minor greivance. So yeah ridley blame the trailer...
@@WhatSmada glad you enjoyed it! It's definitely not perfect but I definitely thought it was a very unique and enjoyable experience
Loved this sardonicast! Just a reminder: Alex update your letterboxd
Lol I love how inconsistent these guys are at putting time stamps in the description. Immersion broken 🤣
For anyone who thinks its the first Marvell movie to either bomb, or not exceed to get a lot box office wise. Marvel still has, a billion dollars in the branding. Meaning they’ll always make another 200+ million superhero film.
Even then it's not the first MCU film to be given lots of negative reviews
Eternals is a soulless movie
This movie has no SOOOOOUUUL
Funny, because I thought Soul was an eternalless movie.
3/4 of my cinema showing walked out during Antichrist. I think a lot of people went thinking it was going to be a generic horror film based on the title? Anyway I had a good time watching it and the audience's reactions
1:24:52 that Adum rage was hilarious XD
I actually think Black Widow is a far worse movie than Eternals. I even somewhat enjoyed Eternals and its turn of pace when compared to other Marvel films. Still not good, but I was never bored for sure
Black Widow, beyond some fun charactee moments, was an absolute shambles. Totally betrayed her character and never felt like a necessary beyond introducing other characters.
Adam: Thoughtful yet brutally honest reviews.
Alex: Smart and composed criticism.
Ralph: Incomprehensible mumbling punctuated by giggling.
My last three braincells, guess which ones the biggest
i loved ralph this ep
10:33 this is the time when superhero films (now it's nothing new and great) were all the same quality, less motivation, stock characters, and just same dialouge that weren't you expected to have a great superhero film (right after the pandemic and right after when Endgame gone too far without much hype). Honestly I'm too old for this and since this movie came out, a lot of people either love or hate it because it was sucess from the box office so "Eternals" it's not spectacular to see and felt sorry for Chloé Zhao (who won the academy award winning, Nomadland) which couldn't make it groundbreaking ever.
9:19 probably the Guardians of the Galaxy will team up with Thor in "Love and Thunder" which will be coming out in July and just another crossover before GOTG3 will come out in the short of time.
Would you guys talk about Melancholia? That would be really great to hear your thoughts on! Also compared to Antichrist
Adam gave it a 6 lol
@@nota_2526 oh wow really ahaha
I can endure a lot of crazy and brutal stuff in movies but genital mutilation I just can't handle. Love a lot of von Trier stuff (especially Melancholia) but I couldn't finish Antichrist. Weirdly enough my father loves this movie.^^
I'd love to hear what Ralph thought of Antichrist ^^
"For what reason? Because I'm about to provide reasons (that you're wrong)." Possibly the best summary of Adam, as a person, in these 2 sentences.
I will also NEVER get tired of hearing him say "a large gay black man."
Regardless of his comment about millennials, The Last Duel was a great film. I can understand someone being hurt and then going off the rails because of its failure. Still, it's definitely the marketing team that is to blame here. Dune was an expensive theatrical release and it was successful and I'm pretty sure most of the audience were millennials.
Y'all should talk about all the Wallace and Gromit shorts.
SO TRUE
I heard that Ridley Scott said that all superhero films are boring as ever.
Ralph recording with his calculator once again
I don't know much about the Eternals in their original comic form and saw the YMS review instead of the movie itself, but I have to agree with other commenters saying it might have worked as a mini series.
Have an ensemble premiere and finale. In between, focus on one character an episode. Establish an arc that concludes in the finale and lets them solve the major crisis ahead.
From what I know, it seems the Eternals live in secret for most of human history not doing much superheroing. You could have each episode set in a different era of mankind, and establish all kinds of plots. You could show them becoming demoralized with humans over time by war and crime, but become inspired by the modern superheroes to actually step forward. Maybe seeing a normal human, like Iron Man, save the universe could motivate these godlike beings to become proactive.
There could be all sorts of fun scenarios to put as settings. Not just historical ones. I think a great one would be when Asgardians first visit Earth and inspire Norse mythology. Maybe have a young Thor and Loki make a cameo and we can see them as their more stilted, serious selves. An Eternal may feel conflicted by living in the shadows, when other superpowered beings show up and are hailed as gods, but they learn that what they do is more noble.
You could sprinkle in all sorts of MCU Easter Eggs, like someone meeting the Ancient One when she is much younger and forming her mystic order or have a run-in with Yondu and his crew in the 1980s when they're looking for StarLord. Or have Ego visiting in the 70s when he fathers Star Lord. Maybe show a conflict that results in Wakanda becoming isolationist and becoming a technological superpower in secret. The show would be a natural fit for showing the history of the MCU.
You have not talked about any Alfonso Cuaron movies yet, and Adum haven't seen Y Tu Mama Tambien.
Bleh
Having just seen Eternals, I now have greater appreciation for Dune as the right way to tell a large-scale, epic sci-fi story.
Eternals was one of the most baffling cinematic experiences I've ever seen. For the last couple of years, Marvel and the media were hyping this movie up as a game-changer for the MCU with a diverse cast. What I got instead was a really dumb movie. Everyone in this movie is an indestructible superhero who never faces a challenge or learns anything. They try to mix their grand, epic story with humor, and it does not work. They cared more about diversity and inclusion instead of telling a good story.
Meanwhile, I watched Dune a couple months ago, and it blew my mind in every conceivable way. There are practical locations mixed with VFX that still hold up to this day, instead of CGI and green-screens. Everyone treats their situation with utmost importance and seriousness, rather than making quips or saying funnies. There are deep themes about culture, religion, philosophy and society that the MCU could never hope to tackle. And then there's the cast. While there are a lot of minorities in Dune's cast, the hero is still clearly Paul Atreides. He's so much more relatable than any of the characters in Eternals, as he is a straight white boy just like me, and also the son of a religious leader and a space lord who inherits a valuable planet and gets idolized by a marginalized group of people while casually accepting his role as their idol. I can't wait to see him become the savior of the Fremen in Part Two.
I might not watch many movies besides the usual blockbusters, but I know a good movie when I see one. Seeing Dune become so successful makes me hopeful for the future of cinema, as people are becoming more critical of superhero movies as they have become the only game in town and a lot have already been green-lit for the next few years. It's also great that people are becoming harsher towards media just as women and POC's are starting to take the reins on these kinds of movies. Denis Villeneuve is clearly a more talented director than Chloe Zhao, who should never get the chance to direct a big-budget movie again. And Disney/Marvel no longer deserves credit for making light-hearted, crowd-pleasing blockbusters, but they should also stay in their lane and never try to make anything deeper, because then you get something as offensively bad as Eternals.
Marvel has really turned into The McDonalds Fast Food of Hollywood rn.. there’s constantly new shows and movies coming out across the year - basically satiating someone’s appetite for a short period of time before moving onto something else.
I can agree with your assessment of the MCU, but I think your comparison to Dune is moot. Eternals does look like total shit, but is an ensemble movie and Dune does have a protagonist (who probably won't be a hero in the end).
I think diversity is good, in movies and otherwise, but it's not a substitute for a good movie. The problem is that the Eternals is made by Disney; no one knows who the director is for the movie; and it was made solely for the purpose of getting easy MCU audience views and nothing more.
“Didn’t have any challenges or learn anything” you didn’t watch the movie then lmao. Stay mad while it makes 400 mil f off
@@petergriffin1714 OK Peter
Stuff that doesn’t make sense about eternals: if they were created to make sure the emergence would happen, and the blip prevented it for 5 years, why didn’t they stop thanos?
Robb stark knew about the emergence and killed ajak, so why didn’t he stop thanos?
Ralph the underwater man
LVT's movies are constantly walking a tight rope between unique and visceral explorations of human emotions and self-indulgent provocateuring.
i feel like ralph's audio got fixed how did he manage to fuck it up again🤣
I feel guilty about eating my last hamburger. The steer or cow it came from was certainly more intelligent than whoever came up with the Eternals.
I was in a 12 years a slave screening with a kid.... Kept asking what's going one during that early sex scene in the slave dormitory.
The duality of man:
Eternals < AntiChrist
"She was waging war with me bc I leaned my seat back" lmfao
Since one of the questions is about ruined movie experiences, i would like to share mine: Christmas day Uncut Gems, I happened to be sitting next to the one guy that was laughing the whole time. He eventually dug his elbows ito the arm, I got even more mad, so for the first time ever i retalitated and dug back into him, and then he looked at me and intentionally elowed me, I said "You hit me first: and then he said "hm?" like he was ready to hit me. I have barely in an AMC since, prefering to stick with art house theatres.
Vin wears his heart right on his sleeve i love the man. He doesn’t just want the rock back for the movies, he wants to reconcile with his friend.
ya'll should try shang chi. it's a cut above the typical marvel stuff. the core of the characters and the story I personally found pretty compelling. it has well established personal stakes which is something I don't usually get from marvel. the fight choreography is also way better than the usual marvel fight scenes
lol
Whenever I hear about people "fainting" because of a movie I always wonder if it's
1- attention seeking weirdos
2- mass hysteria, or
3- epilepsy
Dark Knight is the 4th highest rated movie on IMDB, behind the first two Godfathers and Shawshank Redemption
So, it's rated higher than Alien, when It's not even the best Batman movie... Batman Begins is.
Antichrist's characters in my opinion represent the halves of the self. the feminine and masculine, yin and yang, or apollonion and thonian (sky cult/earth cult). I think it is a metaphor for the inner conflict brought about by grief. It sort of feels like the film representation of trauma within his depression trilogy.
i thought the last duel was actually pretty great, great characters and build up to the duel. somewhat like gladiator. i’d give it like a 7
Could someone please link episode of Movie Fights with Adam in it?
ua-cam.com/video/d3n0dgyjeFQ/v-deo.html
Someone started having a full conversation on their phone when I saw It (2017).
I think the problem with Nikocado Avocado is that as a UA-cam creator with millions of followers he could influence a considerable amount of impressionable children who don't pick up on any self awareness.
How does Ralph fuck his audio up? He's literally the only one 😭
It's only been 101 episodes. I'm sure he'll figure it out soon.
I’ve never even heard of “The Last Duel” until now. Clearly it’s my fault.
If your a movie fan it's weird that you havnt
Sorry guys, Eternals ain't worse then Thor 2. I was at least stimulated by what I was seeing, good or bad. Thor 2 is just this bland nothing experience.
Adum gave Antichrist an 8 or a 9? Isn’t it in his top 10 favorite films of all time on IMDB? What happened to make him drop his rating? I’m genuinely really curious
I believe Dancer in The Dark is his favourite Lars Von Trier film with a 10.
@@thecinematicmind no that’s the thing. Go watch the other sardonicast on dancer in the dark and he gives it a 9, and I always assumed that was because Antichrist was his favorite with a ten. I’m also pretty sure he gives Antichrist a ten in his 2009 list but I might be wrong
Antichrist was always a 9 for him
@@polygoncoco nah, he's given 84 movies a 10/10
@@polygoncoco Anyone who would honestly say that is probably basic
1:10 Idk if Ridley Scott knows that, but you can watch a movie on a phone. Someone should tell him...
"They look like knock off versions of the characters"
Like CHINESE versions? *gong*