Jim Yang Because you're not Engish, you've slightly misunderstood my comment. The commas separate my comments about Momota, who is like LCW rather than Lin Dan. Lin Dan was known for flair, LCW for grinding out long matches, as you say, because he had good footwork, great defence, fit. But nowhere near as much flair as LIn Dan, and would play it safe instead, much like Momota. Hopefully that's clear to you, and please note, I'm not interested in your opinion.
Simply just not fit enough was basically giving away points by the end of it, needs to go back to the drawing board and work on stamina and shot quality or he just won't challenge momota
Momota is playing crazy well recently! Such a prodigy. He's lucky not to have been born 10 years earlier to LD-LCW dominated era, would've made his career far more difficult
I dont agree with you,why you dont say LIndan or LCW was lucky when that era Chen Long,Momota,Viktor,Shi YuQi wasn't in their best (that moment they are so young),if they born in 10 years before do you sure Lindan have 5 wc,2 olympic as he did?or can LCW stay in 1st ranking so long that he was?
Are you kidding me, Lin Dan in his prime was way better than all the players you've listed. Lin Dan's a more experienced and aggressive version of Kento Momota back in his youth. I'm old enough to have watched all these players grow into their primes and if Lin Dan was in his mid-20s now, he would have swept all his competition.
Axelsen did well for most of the 1st set, but got tired. Really hard for tall players in long points as they have to use more energy compared to shorter players.
Well look at the final point of set 1 at 37:30, you can clearly see Axelsen looking a lot more heavy and using more strength to change direction, whereas Momota is a lot more springy.
You mean to say that Momota is more agile? I think you're right, LCW also seems more agile than Axelsen. If they were not they probably wouldn't be able to match Axelsen.
gross prediction from googling, momota is 68kg, whereas axelsen 88kg, thats 20kg more weight to move around the court. at certain height, being taller is a disadvantage in term of stamina for superlong rallies. thats why being tall and having better reach doesnt mean less energy spent as he's a lot heavier than momota. if this theory is wrong, there would be a lot of 190cm+ player in badminton by now
Well badminton is an Asian dominated sports and Asian players are generally less tall than their European counterparts. I think European badminton players generally are quite tall. But man, Axelsen sure is heavy for a professional player, I had no idea he's getting close to 100 kg. I think I saw LCW being 60 kg, now that's some lean fitness. Amazing that those lighter players can still muster all that strength for their powerful smashes. All in all, looks like Momota made the right call to challenge Axelsen to long exhaustive rallies in the 1st set, and then start attacking on the 2nd. Never imagined him becoming a rally player lol
Axelsen is not efficient, which is why he lose to momota, in terms of stamina and speed he still not up to momota level, axelsen habit like to take extra steps, these minor steps cause him lose out when momota change direction, if he can maintain his core and stabilise his movement, momota will find hard times to attack due to wingspan and court coverage
Also he carries much more body weight. A great strategy from Momota to play the rally game in the 1st set to get him exhausted. But I agree his reach is exceptional due to his height and long limbs
Momota was mcuh more fitter than axelsen. I hope Momotas rise has nothing to do with"substances" which boost his energy. I only find it hard to believe that he is that much fitter than anyone else. Momota stays explosive fast till the end and seems never to be fatigue. I hope he trained very hard and that he didnt take any stuff .
Because He won Olympic and many tournament that gave a lot of points which contributed to the ranking system. While Kento was suspended a year or longer. Tbh, Axelsen is only struggle with Kento.
you are talking as if viktor has been losing in first rounds lately, he's also doing well and it's been only past 3-4 months since momota is doing well and world rankings include the whole year.
People say momota is lucky not to play in ld lcw's era. LoL i think ld and lcw are the lucky one where momota is not playing in their era or they will just be blasted from all their game
LCW maybe. But, sorry..the young prime LD was so intimidating with his aggressive play, smashes and tremendous speed. What Momota lacks of now is a strong smash. Kenton is still developing his physical strength though. The young LD was so athletic.
Even Lin Dan in 2013 would beat current Momota! Sure...Momota won the world championship with ease. Dude, he is 24 years old. in 2013 Lin Dan was 30 and won the World Championships after a vacation!!
It is not always fair because the old rackets when Rudy Hartono played in the 70s were way worse..... HOWEVER -> His fitness and skill and strength wasn't even near the best players today. It is the same for every sport. They evolve and so do the players! He is so cocky he think he would be a top player today! Maybe top 30. There is no argue that Lin Dan is the best player of all time!
@@Loppy2345 thats not the point they r young but not playing attacking style thats why they both lose to an old player LCW and this generation has been effected too much of slow style of LD which only work for him
I think Momota purposefully challenged Axelsen to long slow paced exhaustive rallies here. You saw Momota attacking against LCW in Indonesia open right? That was some really high paced offensive game, I think the new players are capable of it
Four kings,do you say about LinDan,LCW,tafik and Peter Gade? except LinDan ,momota have champion wc,asian Cup ,Indo open and other challengers with1 year comeback only.Do you thinks he will have how Many champions that him get with 10 years next?
@@GaryM67-71 momota even lose vs 35 years old LCW, it’s more like bao cung lai vs bao cung lai.. 🤭🗿.. how about today 29 years old momota cannot even win single tournament.. 🤭🤭.. he’s consistently not even near level of LCW.. 🤭🗿
tunggal putra akan di kuasai 3 bingtang momota exelsen ginting momota kalah ma ginting,,ginting kalah ma exelsen, exelsen kalah ma momota,, ,,ni cm bayangan az yaa,,
Do you even hear yourself? Are you saying that the world number one bronze Olympic former world champion that just scored 18 points to the current world champions and reached a semifinal in a major tournament is BAD??? Man you must be crazy
![SF | MS | Kento MOMOTA (JPN) [1] vs CHEN Long (CHN) [6] | BWF 2018](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rLi2vhXaGHU/mqdefault.jpg)
![[4K50FPS] - MS - Lin Dan vs Viktor Axelsen | 2017 All England Open](/img/n.gif)
桃田選手が引退会見で一番印象に残ってると言ってた試合。このゲームはとても見応えがあってすごく良かった。桃田選手は僕達バドプレイヤーの中で永遠の憧れであり、永遠の最強です。今まで代表としてバドを盛り上げてくれてありがとう。これからもずっとずっと応援しています。
Momota is just on another level right now, whoever taught him the basics and made him a good player needs to be lauded.
Yes he is. Indonesian coach. Jadi mulyadi.
nanda ezio wasnt it imam tohari?
A quick google returned the name keita Masuda, none of the Indonesian coach that they mentioned.
I would say the biggest factor is still Park Joobong tho
Now???
Momota is the new Lin Dan, could watch him play all day. The final will be a procession for him.
Could watch Lin Dan all day, not Momota, he's more like LCW, steady, safe, fit, but not as much flair as Lin Dan.
Paul Lord When LD was at momota’s age, he was far more offensive
@@GaryM67-71 Lee was never "steady and safe" lol. He's more known for his explosive and efficient fast footwork instead of "safe" game play.
Jim Yang Because you're not Engish, you've slightly misunderstood my comment. The commas separate my comments about Momota, who is like LCW rather than Lin Dan. Lin Dan was known for flair, LCW for grinding out long matches, as you say, because he had good footwork, great defence, fit. But nowhere near as much flair as LIn Dan, and would play it safe instead, much like Momota. Hopefully that's clear to you, and please note, I'm not interested in your opinion.
Simply just not fit enough was basically giving away points by the end of it, needs to go back to the drawing board and work on stamina and shot quality or he just won't challenge momota
momota's fitness level is unrivaled right now by anyone. so with his accuracy in depth no one will beat him at the slow paced long rally game.
It's funny how people used to say the exact same thing about Chen Long just a couple of months ago
He s legend .calm and quiet and talented
Momota is playing crazy well recently! Such a prodigy.
He's lucky not to have been born 10 years earlier to LD-LCW dominated era, would've made his career far more difficult
Vertie f
Vertie d
I dont agree with you,why you dont say LIndan or LCW was lucky when that era Chen Long,Momota,Viktor,Shi YuQi wasn't in their best (that moment they are so young),if they born in 10 years before do you sure Lindan have 5 wc,2 olympic as he did?or can LCW stay in 1st ranking so long that he was?
I beg your pardon. I should've listed all possible top athlete generations in my pointless speculation
Are you kidding me, Lin Dan in his prime was way better than all the players you've listed. Lin Dan's a more experienced and aggressive version of Kento Momota back in his youth. I'm old enough to have watched all these players grow into their primes and if Lin Dan was in his mid-20s now, he would have swept all his competition.
I think momota have sharinggan eyes. His actual name is uchiha momota
wibu
The only thing that can stop Momota is injury.
Or a ban because of illegal actions... xD
Antony sinisuka GINTING !
ginting just did
@@SoulGuiders ginting was lost too in denmark open 2018.
It was just lucky for him
@@acvannnoyy90 yes. He did.
But thats the first victory from momota after 2 considered defeat.
And that's a rubber too....
Tight score.
😉
I love watch how momota control the court.. he's very excellent control the game..
いやー、この試合桃田がレベチに強過ぎて逆にアクセルセン応援したな笑
良い思い出笑
あの時はこれから毎年ジャパンオープンは桃田の無双が生で見られるんだとワクワクしてたのにな…涙
桃田…寂しいよ…涙
Only Legend LCW can match current Momota now
Well said, I can’t agree more 👍
LCW are legend? He dont have any Wc,asia cup,olympic .i dont agree with "legend" word for him.
Ginting did really well recently against him tho
“Legend” is cheap now
@@anhnam8594 he definitely is a legend bro. Lcw career over 80% winning rate with almost 70 champion, 3 Olympic silvers.
Momota is a mix of Lin Dn and LCW
LD's left hand and LCW technique
Not as aggressive enough only...
Momota is the best badminton player in the world now more better than all legendaris
Momota is the best player now
Momota lúc này cho Sen toàn ăn hành k .
Now2022??
It’s axelsen now
I can barely breathe watching the 1st game!!
momota's generation
Axelsen did well for most of the 1st set, but got tired. Really hard for tall players in long points as they have to use more energy compared to shorter players.
How come? You'd think they need to use less energy as they're taller and thus need to move less, and have a naturally better overall reach.
Well look at the final point of set 1 at 37:30, you can clearly see Axelsen looking a lot more heavy and using more strength to change direction, whereas Momota is a lot more springy.
You mean to say that Momota is more agile? I think you're right, LCW also seems more agile than Axelsen. If they were not they probably wouldn't be able to match Axelsen.
gross prediction from googling, momota is 68kg, whereas axelsen 88kg, thats 20kg more weight to move around the court. at certain height, being taller is a disadvantage in term of stamina for superlong rallies. thats why being tall and having better reach doesnt mean less energy spent as he's a lot heavier than momota. if this theory is wrong, there would be a lot of 190cm+ player in badminton by now
Well badminton is an Asian dominated sports and Asian players are generally less tall than their European counterparts. I think European badminton players generally are quite tall. But man, Axelsen sure is heavy for a professional player, I had no idea he's getting close to 100 kg. I think I saw LCW being 60 kg, now that's some lean fitness. Amazing that those lighter players can still muster all that strength for their powerful smashes.
All in all, looks like Momota made the right call to challenge Axelsen to long exhaustive rallies in the 1st set, and then start attacking on the 2nd. Never imagined him becoming a rally player lol
This was such a pleasure to watch
Super Dan is 35 yo now, old for Asian ethelet
Momota 😍😍
32:42からのラリーから桃田賢斗の勝ちが見えた
Momota hunting the big title
as you can watch from this match the quality of Japanese are much much higher than Indonesia's
And how much tittle in group tournament that Japanese has?? just go home and learn history of Badminton. dont joke around here
you mean the audience or the players or what?
thx U for upload..
Axelsen lost to Momota 8 times, right?
Yes, 8 to 1
lost 1-9 after this match.
when did Axelsen beat Momota? Is it true the only time ever was at junior level?
yes 9-1 for momota
Vertie yes,it is 2008 in a junior challenger
I am highly suspecting Kento is from other planet🤔🤔🤔
桃田感觉主动失误几乎没有，防守也很完美，进攻衔接也很流畅……确实比较难打
Axelsen is not efficient, which is why he lose to momota, in terms of stamina and speed he still not up to momota level, axelsen habit like to take extra steps, these minor steps cause him lose out when momota change direction, if he can maintain his core and stabilise his movement, momota will find hard times to attack due to wingspan and court coverage
Also he carries much more body weight. A great strategy from Momota to play the rally game in the 1st set to get him exhausted. But I agree his reach is exceptional due to his height and long limbs
Ok.😐
In my opinion, Momota take a third place under LCW and Lin Dan and i think Momota is greater tha Chen Long
Who can stop Momota ?
dangkhoa nguyen Korean girl player JinYeJin
😂
Me
Ginting in Asian Games :), and LCW in Malaysia Open #cmimw
umpire, when he says stop, then momota has to stop
Every time I watch Japan open my neck kinda hurts.
Momota was mcuh more fitter than axelsen. I hope Momotas rise has nothing to do with"substances" which boost his energy. I only find it hard to believe that he is that much fitter than anyone else. Momota stays explosive fast till the end and seems never to be fatigue. I hope he trained very hard and that he didnt take any stuff .
did axelsen use Astrox 88 S ?
Maybe.
こういう試合っていつテレビでやってるんですか？
この試合は特に地上波でがっつりLIVE中継してましたよ
How is Viktor still no 1 ??
Because He won Olympic and many tournament that gave a lot of points which contributed to the ranking system. While Kento was suspended a year or longer. Tbh, Axelsen is only struggle with Kento.
you are talking as if viktor has been losing in first rounds lately, he's also doing well and it's been only past 3-4 months since momota is doing well and world rankings include the whole year.
He still number 1 now.. he seems unstoppable today.. 🗿🤭
He retired 😢
41:50
これ好き
ケント・モモーター？
Axelsen vs anyone that can defend and has a great net game is less than 30% winrate.
People say momota is lucky not to play in ld lcw's era. LoL i think ld and lcw are the lucky one where momota is not playing in their era or they will just be blasted from all their game
momota wins world champion just like he wins a cake or lunch with his friends
LCW maybe. But, sorry..the young prime LD was so intimidating with his aggressive play, smashes and tremendous speed.
What Momota lacks of now is a strong smash. Kenton is still developing his physical strength though. The young LD was so athletic.
Even Lin Dan in 2013 would beat current Momota! Sure...Momota won the world championship with ease. Dude, he is 24 years old. in 2013 Lin Dan was 30 and won the World Championships after a vacation!!
you can't compare players in different era..
It is not always fair because the old rackets when Rudy Hartono played in the 70s were way worse..... HOWEVER -> His fitness and skill and strength wasn't even near the best players today. It is the same for every sport. They evolve and so do the players! He is so cocky he think he would be a top player today! Maybe top 30.
There is no argue that Lin Dan is the best player of all time!
If you wonder why some people hate momota's play style, this is the match to watch
make taller player runs and keep the bird in play
Cầu lông nhật bản năm 2o18
too slow.
With this they will never get pass of four old king.
They are using slower shuttles in Japan open. Check result of Momota vs Lin Dan.
@@Loppy2345 thats not the point
they r young but not playing attacking style
thats why they both lose to an old player LCW
and this generation has been effected too much of slow style of LD which only work for him
I think Momota purposefully challenged Axelsen to long slow paced exhaustive rallies here. You saw Momota attacking against LCW in Indonesia open right? That was some really high paced offensive game, I think the new players are capable of it
@@vertie2090 maybe u right. I think they should keep playing attack because its the only way to improve their skill.
Four kings,do you say about LinDan,LCW,tafik and Peter Gade? except LinDan ,momota have champion wc,asian Cup ,Indo open and other challengers with1 year comeback only.Do you thinks he will have how Many champions that him get with 10 years next?
Viktor AXELSEN just too tall .... he can't control the front court ..... especially against MOMOTA
Axelsen need to put on some jogging shoes and increase his stamina.
桃田賢斗の才能はすごい！事故で早期退職してしまってごめんなさい！彼にはとても同情します...
Si Victor kalau main Sama ginting rilex Banget tapi kalau MA momota di merasa kewalahan
不可能を可能にする男
ケント・モモーター？
Who know, what is the Momota's strategy when he can beat taller opponent?
the new Lin Dan vs Lee Chong Wei
More like new Lin Dan vs Peter Gade
Vertie LCW v LCW. Momota not a patch on Lin Dan's skills.
And Momota is Lin Dan
@@GaryM67-71 momota even lose vs 35 years old LCW, it’s more like bao cung lai vs bao cung lai.. 🤭🗿.. how about today 29 years old momota cannot even win single tournament.. 🤭🤭.. he’s consistently not even near level of LCW.. 🤭🗿
5 loses from 187 match?
I think she said 87 matches
*87
A
Every player needs to work on their stamina, fitness number 1.
bad angle!!!!
Ranking 1 lose
tunggal putra akan di kuasai 3 bingtang momota exelsen ginting momota kalah ma ginting,,ginting kalah ma exelsen, exelsen kalah ma momota,, ,,ni cm bayangan az yaa,,
Momota ngalahing ginting udh 2 kali thun ini dan ginting bru sekali bisa ngalahin momota itupun gegara dia main rumahny...
Se ngefens2nya gw sama ginting tapi kalo dibandingin sama momota masih jauh ginting belum konsisten kayak momota
h2h 4-2 for momota
Ga usah overproud ginting ama chou aja masih kalah
Please comment English in international youtube account.
axelsen is so bad
As if you can do better
Coz Ken is to good for him
I dont think Axelsen is so bad, but i think Momota is too good
the good meets the god. victor did his best I think.
Do you even hear yourself? Are you saying that the world number one bronze Olympic former world champion that just scored 18 points to the current world champions and reached a semifinal in a major tournament is BAD??? Man you must be crazy