The issue with surtr is that his lack of mobility and not having any way to remove slows and roots other than ulting makes it so easy to get away from him as long as you're playing a backliner with a dash or with a reliable way to slow him down, the best backliners you can pick into surtr are thoth and agni for mid, and anhur for adc. In the other hand, he is literally the highest damage output warrior in the game if you manage to stack your 1 decently (at min 15 in solo you should be around 45-50 for a decent game, at min 30 you should have around 85-90 stacks at least). Btw don't build breastplate of vigilance, pridwen or dawnbringer on surtr since the effect procs as soon as you go up to the sky so you lose a lot of value from those items when you're falling
Who do you think would win \ will do a better job as a Solo & Tank? 1. Bellona or any AA Warrior with the new equinoux item, qin, and etc 2. Surtr \ Mulan with Ability base & CD & Protections build? I played both, and I can't decide! AA warriors has insanely high DPS, but lack a real burst. Ability based Warriors - I did with Mulan with 200 Protections: 2300 dmg in less than 2-3 seconds
It’s is impossible to play a game when the then enemy team has a Bake. I played a 43 min conquest the other day and he had 62,000 damage and mitigated over 160,000. Whoever signed off on his kit should serve at least 4 months in Sing Sing.
in solo, yes, as support, bake is often too squashy as you can burst him down. One good way to counter solo bake is to simply fight away from him, so unless you go for objective, you can simply bait him into ult, use the escapes and then keep him cced during the ult so he cant chase, if bake dives backline, the mages and adcs should just sit next to him in the inner circle to not be affected by the ult while spamming any cc they have
In your opinion Weak3n, would you put Shiva as a good solo/support pick? Ive seen it in my experience do well against whale and osiris, just for the double knockup, prot shred and attack speed debuff. Also I've seen do well into Bellona and hunters due to the mitigation and block stacks in his 3.
I love playing Vamana, but my single nitpick about the character is that there is no counter play for his ult as a support. He’s CC immune, so you can’t do much in terms of peel for your squishies. AND VAMANA CAN WALK THROUGH PLAYER MADE WALLS, so you can’t even play Ymir or Thor or Ganesh or Yemoja and block him off! THEY NEED TO REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR HIM TO WALK THROUGH PLAYER MADE WALLS. You can emblem him, which won’t slow his CC immune ass, but that’s about it right now. If he ults, he cannot die and he cannot be stopped.
He can body block in ult, yet he can walk through walls. This is so true. If they allow him to be blocked by walls I would have 0 issue with him. I agree that the walking through walls problem is the single biggest advantage he has that makes him ridiculous to handle as solo and even jungle
Yeah I agree the mystical mail that late is weird. It can pop off but you need to live a long time for it to get a lot of value. I like it early for clear and pressure, the earlier the better but getting it fourth just doesn't seem that worth it unless you are really far ahead, but at that point pretty much anything can win.
Oh. I didn’t even realize vamana was buffed. It’s funny to me when he is meta. Have the goofiest games where team fights are decided by “did vamana get a good ult?”
I dig the list, I do think Osiris dompsters most of this list still just because of how bloated his kit is with anti heal, slow, stun, and damage mitigation. I've had a ton of luck with Osiris into Vamana specifically with Qin's and his ult having 100% anti heal.
True but the list isn’t based on the gods 1v1ing remember, while he is a 1v1 menace the lack of team fight potential is why he isn’t on here, really doesn’t offer much in team fights compared to other solos mentioned
@@Dwr12187 if memory serves you proc it with ability dmg. For some reason mystical mail hits and triggers that text even tho its just magical dmg being applied not ability
Building prophetic is fine if your support it building it too. The prots and damage mitigation are too good to pass up and it’s easy as hell to stack on Bake.
Yes. Phalanx is insanely good for AA-focused gods. One stop shop for attack speed and phys prots. Broken item rn, it's crazy it didn't receive any changes.
I saw a game with olorun ult, whale ult, and baka ult It makes you disgustingly slow to where if you don’t have beads you may as well take your hands off the buttons
crazyyyyyy, no shiva mention at all? yeah he isnt top 5 but he is so useful with his kit...great sustain/solid damage...early game his ult literally resets him back to full health and mana it does fall off late game but CC immunity still big...double dash with a knockup and pull in -coming from a top 10 ranked shiva (smurkish3)
I got a penta and won the game for my team with vamana😂 it’s the most brainless god to use cause he’s so easy. Pair him with emblem and you stick to your opponents like glue.
One more reason to hate the whale is when he applies the 20% damage reduction on you, he can use horrific on you to apply 30% damage reduction in total.. all of this in an AoE that can hit your entire team AND while he builds super tanky.
Im new to Smite and in one my first games a Vamana turbo stomped the game. I thought this god just has to be a noob stomper and actually isnt very good. Nah, actually just 0 counter play brain dead destruction
I really appreciate that you cover every role from each perspective (tank and bruiser/damage). Thank you so much for helping all of your viewers!
The issue with surtr is that his lack of mobility and not having any way to remove slows and roots other than ulting makes it so easy to get away from him as long as you're playing a backliner with a dash or with a reliable way to slow him down, the best backliners you can pick into surtr are thoth and agni for mid, and anhur for adc. In the other hand, he is literally the highest damage output warrior in the game if you manage to stack your 1 decently (at min 15 in solo you should be around 45-50 for a decent game, at min 30 you should have around 85-90 stacks at least). Btw don't build breastplate of vigilance, pridwen or dawnbringer on surtr since the effect procs as soon as you go up to the sky so you lose a lot of value from those items when you're falling
Surtr mains: oh no ima die ult to the sky
Appreciate the UA-cam specific content
Who do you think would win \ will do a better job as a Solo & Tank?
1. Bellona or any AA Warrior with the new equinoux item, qin, and etc
2. Surtr \ Mulan with Ability base & CD & Protections build?
I played both, and I can't decide!
AA warriors has insanely high DPS, but lack a real burst.
Ability based Warriors - I did with Mulan with 200 Protections: 2300 dmg in less than 2-3 seconds
It’s is impossible to play a game when the then enemy team has a Bake. I played a 43 min conquest the other day and he had 62,000 damage and mitigated over 160,000. Whoever signed off on his kit should serve at least 4 months in Sing Sing.
in solo, yes, as support, bake is often too squashy as you can burst him down. One good way to counter solo bake is to simply fight away from him, so unless you go for objective, you can simply bait him into ult, use the escapes and then keep him cced during the ult so he cant chase, if bake dives backline, the mages and adcs should just sit next to him in the inner circle to not be affected by the ult while spamming any cc they have
Need to nerf bake
Coming back after 4 years you one of the Goats still going too
In your opinion Weak3n, would you put Shiva as a good solo/support pick? Ive seen it in my experience do well against whale and osiris, just for the double knockup, prot shred and attack speed debuff. Also I've seen do well into Bellona and hunters due to the mitigation and block stacks in his 3.
shiva def goated fasure
For the Bellona build I’ve seen fineokay use stone of binding instead of pridwen what’s your opinion on that??
I think that slot can go to whatever utility style defense item you want
@@Weak3n great thanks for the feedback💪🏽
I think he sells phalinx late game for pridwin
@@chrisgarcia8295yup, he said he enjoys doing that
I love playing Vamana, but my single nitpick about the character is that there is no counter play for his ult as a support. He’s CC immune, so you can’t do much in terms of peel for your squishies. AND VAMANA CAN WALK THROUGH PLAYER MADE WALLS, so you can’t even play Ymir or Thor or Ganesh or Yemoja and block him off! THEY NEED TO REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR HIM TO WALK THROUGH PLAYER MADE WALLS. You can emblem him, which won’t slow his CC immune ass, but that’s about it right now. If he ults, he cannot die and he cannot be stopped.
totally agreed. they have never found a good balance for his ult and giving some more counterplay opportunities could help a lot
He can body block in ult, yet he can walk through walls. This is so true. If they allow him to be blocked by walls I would have 0 issue with him. I agree that the walking through walls problem is the single biggest advantage he has that makes him ridiculous to handle as solo and even jungle
Yeah I agree the mystical mail that late is weird. It can pop off but you need to live a long time for it to get a lot of value. I like it early for clear and pressure, the earlier the better but getting it fourth just doesn't seem that worth it unless you are really far ahead, but at that point pretty much anything can win.
its a cheese way to stack your prophetic cloak
Oh. I didn’t even realize vamana was buffed. It’s funny to me when he is meta. Have the goofiest games where team fights are decided by “did vamana get a good ult?”
It's so easy press 4 hold left click and w key
I dig the list, I do think Osiris dompsters most of this list still just because of how bloated his kit is with anti heal, slow, stun, and damage mitigation. I've had a ton of luck with Osiris into Vamana specifically with Qin's and his ult having 100% anti heal.
True but the list isn’t based on the gods 1v1ing remember, while he is a 1v1 menace the lack of team fight potential is why he isn’t on here, really doesn’t offer much in team fights compared to other solos mentioned
Mystucal mail is helping stack the profetics. There has been a bug that does it. Or at least thats what finokay said
Not really a bug….just really easy to stack when you have an automatic AoE damage tick for everyone around you
@@Dwr12187 if memory serves you proc it with ability dmg. For some reason mystical mail hits and triggers that text even tho its just magical dmg being applied not ability
Do you build prophetic if your support is building it too?
Building prophetic is fine if your support it building it too. The prots and damage mitigation are too good to pass up and it’s easy as hell to stack on Bake.
yeah, usually you and support are not near eachother to even waste the aura
@Weak3n is phalanx mandatory in the bellona and vamana build?
Yes. Phalanx is insanely good for AA-focused gods. One stop shop for attack speed and phys prots. Broken item rn, it's crazy it didn't receive any changes.
What happens when you Olorun ult and Baka Ult together
super super slow? Not sure
I saw a game with olorun ult, whale ult, and baka ult
It makes you disgustingly slow to where if you don’t have beads you may as well take your hands off the buttons
I thought Genji's is core to the Surtr 1 spam especially late game. I wouldn't personally swap that out.
crazyyyyyy, no shiva mention at all? yeah he isnt top 5 but he is so useful with his kit...great sustain/solid damage...early game his ult literally resets him back to full health and mana it does fall off late game but CC immunity still big...double dash with a knockup and pull in -coming from a top 10 ranked shiva (smurkish3)
I got a penta and won the game for my team with vamana😂 it’s the most brainless god to use cause he’s so easy. Pair him with emblem and you stick to your opponents like glue.
Glad my Bellona getting her shine.
One more reason to hate the whale is when he applies the 20% damage reduction on you, he can use horrific on you to apply 30% damage reduction in total.. all of this in an AoE that can hit your entire team AND while he builds super tanky.
With how good horrific is rn I'm surprised that vamana and Nike are on the list
Osiris not being on here is criminal
I disagree his team fight is a lot worse compared to these solos he only beats these gods 1v1 and if he doesn’t manage that then he is useless
Never played vamana before last night and absolutely stomped lmfao 50k player damage 240k minion damage 34 minute conq
I had a solo bake go 0-12 last night, it was sad
How is cu chillin not up here?
can you imagine weak3n from smite with a loww taper faaade
No gill or Achilles?
Achi could be close to the top 5 since he is a great axe abuser, but gilga not even close, he is playable but that's all
Bellona and Vamana are my favorite 😈
Is sol usable in ranked at all she has always been my best and favorite god
God of the fade
Achiles not in top 5?
osiris?
Bake is only good because he cannot miss anything
love the content 😎
Whale is stupid op.
The 2 cooldown reset is what gets me mad. That should not exist.
@@cybzer0560 clears wave instantly and does insane damage just by autoing in your general area.
@horridfuture3835 if they would nerf that 2, I would reduce the cooldown acceleration from 1 second to .5 seconds per God auto.
Vamana counters him, you just ult when he ults and stomp that fish to death
@@picklejuice4638 he can still get a huge lead in the fist few levels but yeah vamana can literally 1v1 anyone in his ult. Don’t box him when it’s up.
no osiris?!
Vamana here but not Osiris is hilarious
Osiris over surter
Day sixty seven of asking for heimdallr ability damage build video
Great now I have to have sutr mirrors when I’ve been playing him since the season started
What’s that haircut?????
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A burst fade with a textured top. You're welcome
Im new to Smite and in one my first games a Vamana turbo stomped the game. I thought this god just has to be a noob stomper and actually isnt very good. Nah, actually just 0 counter play brain dead destruction
My friends and I say “lil baby got big”. No skill needed. Just need to know positioning and when to fight with your team and you stomp on everyone 😢
Sorry might have been me lmao i just use him to get my mmr back after reset quick
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