My entire feed is now just tech tubers reviewing this device. I'm guessing they must have all been waiting for an embargo to end. I am, of course, watching this guys review because he's THE MAN.
You are BANG ON there. This device has been in and around the background of ALOT of us for AGES - embargo'd all to hell, but also it's been in active software development for 4 separate versions in 12 month. Between you and me...this is the 2.5th time I've recorded this video!! I have a completely different version of this review from June that was much, much more negative - but UniFi listened to alot of the feedback in development and delayed the release till they implemented it. I might make a whole video on this one day
@@nascompares that’s really good though. Send it to the actual people who will use it and give the best possible feedback on how to form the software. Thank you !
@@nascompares really surprised to hear that they had them out in the wild so early. It’s great though, sounds like they have used that time to iterated on it a bunch and not just squeeze out a half baked product to get it to market.
@@nascomparesthat’s something you don’t hear a lot. Now there one more reason to love UniFi and the company!! Great work. But I’m not gonna buy it until it has docker implemented. Great device for storage though😬
This looks like a decent start - funnily enough while eating my bacon, egg and black pudding (and watching this video), I got the email from Ubiquiti titled "Welcome to Unifi Drive and UNAS Pro" (1134hrs EDT). As others have commented though, I won't be swapping my DS920+ for the UNAS Pro. I do have a Ubiquiti network setup, so was very excited when I saw your video this morning. As always - great video and thanks for taking the time to post!
Defiantly going to pick one of these up. Don't give a hoot about the docker side, that's why I have servers. I want a storage NAS that does just that, store things and get data to the right users, I don't want to host my docker apps from it as well. Great video thanks for the review!
Can we all just take a minute and appreciate that users that JUST want this thing as storage exist!! I did NOT do a good enough job of highlighting that in the vid
@@nascompares « users that JUST want to » in a 2U server… that definitely limits the pool of users out there. Probably experienced homelaber… which means, people who will expect NFS or ZFS… and docker. So… probably not a lot.
@@nascompares I'm definitely increasingly in that camp, but my needs would be beyond what this can do from a performance and resilience perspective. It's an interesting entry into the market, dipping their toe. I suppose this is similar to how in general Ubiquti doesn't have much gear for the faster network speeds in comparison to Mikrotik.
I agree, this fits exactly what a home lab user like me wants. Just stable secure storage for my files! I have a dedicated proxmox cluster to run my services.
The device feels like the perfect unit for low cost offsite backup storage. Easy to lock away in a comms rack and you wont saturate the write speeds over the wire.
I really like this product. Most home users these days want a "NAS" but really they want a home server that runs a lot of different services and stores files for their network and they think their NAS is supposed be that device. I appreciate that this device goes back to being what a NAS was originally intended to be and seems targeted perfectly to the small business and home business market.
I agree completely. To be honest I looked at doing a server with a traditional NAS and just found the convience of my Synology fit the bill. I only run one or two server apps so it handles things quite well. My entire network is Unifi so this intrigues me as a true NAS and will probably in the future purchase it.
Their thinking on the 1G port is probably to use that on a management network for config management and use the 10G for data only. At least that's usually how appliances set up like that are intended to be used. Would be nice to have more ports for flexibility though if you're trying to do something like directly attaching vm hosts.
Thanks for the review, well done and thorough. Not surprised to see no availability for Docker at this point. At the price point, this is great for fire storage. It's not HA or high-speed system, which is fine. There are other players for that type of equipment. It appears that UI gave us a purpose-built system that does one thing really well, at a price that is hard to not smile at.
Glad I could help bud. Using the link in the description means me and Eddie here at NC get a commission (helps us keep doing this). But seriously, only if you really want the system.
As the owner of an 1822+ and big fan of synology AND Unifi (we’re an MSP and install both regularly for clients) I agree with the video in that IF you utilized any of the app features of synology this isn’t going to replace it. But if you just want rock solid NAS storage , rack form factor, and already into Unifi this is a NO BRAINER purchase at this price. I’m 1000% sure a higher powered Max version will be coming to try to win over the rest of the market, soon. The cortex in this one and the fact it’s literally just the existing UNVR hardware make it unsuitable for running containers and apps IMO.
@@NoOperation32But that’s the problem right here… Who is the buyer here? SMBs ? It will lack too many features… Homelabers (because its 2U, not a box you put on a desk) ? It will lack the ability to run Dockers, for example (and good luck with that ARM CPU). The product doesn’t make sense… unless they already planned additional updates down the road, but… that got to be pretty limited.
@@floriantthebault521 easy solution, SFF docker machine with shares from the UNAS mapped. Synology units are pretty underpowered as it is. Even if someone was to get something like the RS822+, a recycled machine with an i7 is gonna beat the pants off it for performance.
Such a detailed review, thank you 😊 It is a pity about Docker/VM/Plex support (or lack of!), but I understand why Ubi have focused on making just a NAS right now. Also re reply you made to another comment, I would love to watch the story of how you had to reshoot this video multiple times. Fair play to you on the patience.
I'm not entirely sure I can show it legally (embargo agreements - but hope to discuss it with ubiquiti when this product is out there, as it's genuinely a positive story on them....but also... ABSOLUTELY INFURIATING FOR ME). Will work on it
@@nascompares ahh makes sense. Yes that could be cool, especially if it's positive for them. It's pretty great they listened to all the feedback and delayed things as appropriate 🙂
Great video! will be using your link to purchase one. I currently have a TrueNAS box that has 9 drives in it but going to scale down to 7 drives anyways to save power consumption (yes for me it does make that big of a difference). That is the biggest thing for me... when my NAS is at idle it is 90-100w and reading/ writing heavy it is 160-200 w. I don't do docker or anything like that on my NAS, I have another machine for that. I just need something efficient and that will do the storage thing well, and it will match my other Unifi equipment.... lol
This is an superb video ! You really know your stuff and you really gave us an insight into the product, what it can and can't do with lots of visual showing of it
I think you hit it on the head at the end Robbie. I'm defo going to be replacing my onsite backup ext. drives with one of these (going by how stuff sells out on their site though, that's probably going to be around 4/3 2025!). But it won't be replacing the Synology for day to day work stuff that's for sure.
Great Video thanks. I've been waiting for something like this since I turned off my Power hungry Apple 1U Servers and huge Apple RAIDs and bought a Qnap, which I have hated for years. All I want is mountable storage , easy to use, no faffing about, couldn't care less about Apps and Containers and real hot swappable storage. Gonna get one for sure.
@@nascompares ye you can call me Kev everyone does. It’s exactly what I want a NAS to do. I miss my Apple RAIDs and Rack server combo they just be worked. But 2 RAIDs with 2 900w psu inside both machines. Too expensive to run. I find logging into QNAP a pain in backside. 2 form factor authentication is too slow, clock mismatch’s between systems does my head in. The software on the new UniFi NAS might be limited, but like all UniFi stuff it will get great updates and they listen to their users. I like that a lot in a company.
Great video, this is almost exactly what I have been looking for, just need the ability to make immutable backups (WORM) which it sounds like you are expecting from them in the near future. Will be looking forward to your future videos.
I’m running a bare metal k8s cluster, so I really don’t need to be able to run docker containers on a nas. This is exactly what I wanted and at a great price. Ubiquiti nailed their first NAS outing
Hi there, thanks for the video. I am looking to see the following: 1. iPhone and Android Applications to backup the pictures from the phone into the UNAS. 2. something similar to google documents to create office documents directly on the UNAS. 3. backup up one entire windows computer to the UNAS, similar to synology backup for business. .
WOW, excellent review, I have Unify network setup at home along with a QNAP NAS and heard on the grape vine that there may be a Unifi NAS released soon, and that price, you can't go wrong... Can't wait for future updates to see whether they include docker etc as I do like having the utils that QNAP provide. 😁
Fantastic in depth review man! I just got the Minisforum MS-01 to replace my DS918+ in terms of server needs, so my Synology is just acting as storage now, so this would be the perfect unit for me to upgrade to 10Gbe to go with the rest of my UniFi stuff besides that it doesn’t have NFS yet :/ quick question, when you say reactive storage, do you mean you can add drives to the pool without wiping and just increase pool size?
Having already invested in Unifi gear (including a Pro switch with a spare SFP+ port) and already having a fairly beefy Proxmox host in play to host applications this seems like a great option!
Thanks.. good review. I have converted all my networking to Unifi and am considering while building a new house whether I want to use Unifi cameras. If this could have replaced the UDM it would have been a no brainer, but as a satisfied UnRaid user of 20 years, the lack of some networking and apparent inability to mix/match drive sizes may make me just get a UDM and keep my existing UnRaid. Definitely something to keep my eyes on though.
I've got multiple Synology's in my house, and I love them. I also have a full Unifi setup. I'd love to try transitioning to one of these in the future, but I'm going to wait until the software gets a little more polished, and some more features get added. But $500 for a 7 bay rack mountable NAS is a great price!
You are the classic 2nd tier deployer of this system that I covered in the video conclusion - and rightly so! Synology earned its way into your network data solution. But never hurts to have a decent enough 2nd backup tier, even off-site Then this system at least has a shot at impressing and stretching out later on down the line
GREAT video and I love that they have nailed the fundamentals. In your comparative videos, I suspect it's going to be REALLY hard to find something in this price range that can even come close. (Find an off the shelf 7 bay NAS for $500?)
You are bang on there. Terramaster's U8 comes close (and even then, not even that close), whereas the QNAP TS-832PXU and Synology RS1221+ are the nearest from them..and they are almost twice the price. Alternative 4 bay models are RS422+ and TS-432PXU.. and even then, ALOT of give and take. Watch out for today's video in about 10 hours .
I don't understand the connectivity/single PSU complaints. The thing's 500 bucks. It's got SFP+. This is 100% a repurposed NVR, and fit for purpose at a frankly insane price. Great for storing your jellyfin library and similar workloads. Don't ask it to do stuff it wasn't designed for.
I see your point, but I do think I should also add that 1- the price was only revealed to me/others Less than a week ago (hence why you will likely see this only sparsely covered in people's videos), and 2, even at this price - it's a 2U 7 Bay 10GbE Rackmount - this is seemingly a small business targetted system. Therefore these are still features that need to be discussed, even if it's to highlight they are absent at the price
@@nascompares i have rarely seen an SMB used NFS..... SMB tends to use, ahem, SMB/CIFS - that said i am sure they will ad at some point when they can figure out how to make it simple and easy - squash permissions are hard for many folks to understand and get right AND secure.
There is no way one more SFP port would have cost that much and they could have easily added an empty power supply bay for an additional option if you want to pay more ..
It is "cheap", short depth, quiet, and Unifi. Those are the selling points. Everything else goes hard to the other guys by all appearances. Qnap has a few very short depth (33cm) NAS as well, but the price point speaks for itself.
For the price, this is great! I usually have my Plex server and VMs and stuff on another machine anyway. Seems pretty desirable to split the two so you have some redundancy.
Dude this is amazing how many people are now entering the consumer space. honestly if the software is stable and good like synologys and as a storage server this seems like a no brainer for a home user who doesn't want to configure a lot.
Synology is the only NAS brand where I think their software adds value beyond being a storage server. But if I'm being honest, over time as I've migrated most of my docker/VM services over to Proxmox or XCP-ng and have very little running on the Synology hardware itself. I could see myself being interested in exploring Unifi as a storage server in the future, but I'd need a higher performance version.
same here, i use synology as mostly a pure NAS, rest is on a nuc cluster, the synology backup needs more features before i can move (like backup to azure warm/cold storage)
This looks really interesting to me. My big question though, what if you get more than 1 of these? Say I expand and need more than 7 drives, could I buy a second unit and have the pools merge between the 2? Because that would be cool. Also seeing performance stats of SATA SSD's would be nice too!
Excellent review. Thank you. I would really be interesting to knowing what drive setup with RAID5 would be needed to saturate the 10b both for reads and writes. Your numbers are not that great with the drives you used. Could faster hard drives do it? Would SATA SSD's do it and how many would be needed? I am not buying another NAS with 10g that will only do less than half the network capabilities. With this unit in particular, it really needs to have 10g file transfer capabilities.
Great comprehensive video. I absolutely love all things Ubiquity but I feel like I want to wait for another version or at least more apps. I have a Synology now and don’t even scratch the surface of the features available (including things like running docker images) but the one thing your video suggested is given the lack of use of file metadata I would certainly be missing some app features like the Synology photo app at least and probably video as well so I could look up pictures by person (facial recognition) or geo (show me my Aruba vacation pictures) I have wanted all things Uniquity on my network and maybe I just need to wait a few software and maybe even a hardware revision or 2. I feel like it may need more memory and CPU once and IF they start to add more app features. Also, I wish they would have done an M.2 drive slot at least for caching.
@@nascompares Awww that's a shame. Mind you given UI's propensity to add features down the line it might still appear in due course. I'm looking forward to the "Ultra" version of Unifi Drive using a Cloud Gateway Max/Ultra chassis and a cluster of M.2 NVME drives! 🤞🤞🤞
The only thing I would have liked was for them to drop the RPS connection and put in dual hot-swappable power supplies. But I get it, they are using the existing hardware from the UNVR Pro so it takes much less effort to make one of these. I plan on getting two of these. One for my primary backups and then the second one for backups of my backups. I will use my current Synology NAS that I am currently using for backups as a Docker system running HA and Plex and move my backups from Synology to the Ubiquiti NAS.
Great review! Thank you. Just to clarify... I cannot have 2x 16TB disk in here without RAID, together with 4x 4TB disks in RAID10 right? Because the two 16TB ones would be consumed by the RAID as well (as 4TB disks). Is that correct?
Kind of limited to me but I can see this being great for a lot of people, especially those already using Ubiquity equipment and/or who might be on the fence about buying Synology. Kind of refreshing to see a 'pure' NAS though as someone who still believes in separating storage and compute.
Looks like your last video comments for opening CCTV and NAS has been addressed? I have just purchased the UCG_Max (F*kn brilliant!) and adopted 2 ONVIF camera (out of 3 in my setup) Awesome! And now I can also bin my sh!ty Google Doorbell and get the G4 doorbell! Oh.. and a Unify NAS? I hope i can connect that extra storage to my UCG Max!
Great and very timely review Thanks! Did I understand you correctly, can you uses different sized drives in the raid array (like Synology Hybrid raid) or do all drives the array need to be the same size?
Genuinely worried about this as ive been using a UNVR Pro for a while as a nas using SSH to install samba. I hope they dont artificially block people using the UNVR Pro now that there is an official NAS offering
Great video, lots of details thanks! One question, can you mix and match different HDD sizes? As someone who hacked unvr to NAS, I have installed 4 disks which automatically turned on raid 5. Is this the same case with UNAS PRO?
Unfortunately no, all disks will be treated a srhe capacity of the smallest drive, and adding an HDD to an existing array will only allow it if the drive is the same/larger than those in the array
This will save me a ton on having a NAS to backup my 1821+. My old 4 bay Synology died. So, I'm backing up one volume on my 1821+ to another volume on the same NAS, which obviously worries me. I can't justify buying another 8 bay Synology, but I can justify this easily. As soon as it's proven itself in production environments, I'm getting one.
This is close to what I'm thinking also. But about production: This is very much a rehash of what the UNVR Pro has been doing for years, as that had the same hardware and also has RAID setup. So I really don't think you need to wait. There can of course be software bugs in the new code for the "Drive" app in Unify, but this is almost entirely UI only. I think you can safely pick this up already.
If the unit included NFS, multiple volumes and mixed hard drive sizes . . . that would be then end of Synology for me. A luxury version with larger screen - summarising all the data at a glance would be a nice option.
It's pretty clear their goal for this device is having basic file storage for users of a home/small business that are going to connect to shared folders on mac and windows systems. What a NAS by definition really is... I see a lot of people complaining about lack of redundant network ports, NFS, iSCSI, etc. IMO, I think all those features they're wanting are things needed when you are building enterprise infrastructure and Ubiquiti knows that's really best handled by a proper SAN product from the likes of Dell, HP, IBM, NetApp, etc.
I mostly agree..but not the RP, iSCSI and container deployment (slightly less so on that one, I'll admit). As although I agree that this is a NAS by definition/design, the whole REASON people wanted a UniFi NAS, was because that wanted a single ecosystem - and UniFi pretty much supplies everything else. So, in order for a UniFi NAS to replace/over-ride a Synology or a QNAP, it has to give the building blocks to do so. Everything else after containers, iSCSI and redundant PSUs in this Rackmount can be 'built' using these
Thanks for really nice video! When sharing a folder, you can add a user. What user is this? Is this something that you create on your machine? And how does the remote login for it look? I'm currently using Nextcloud on Truenas to share large video files. All my friends and clients have a personal login where they view/download/reshare the media. I'm curious if I can replicate this with the UNAS. Also, when you preview/stream remotely a video file does it transcode? If yes, does it also do h265? Sorry for the interrogation :P It's just it can be a dealbreaker or dream for me depending on the answer.
First galance. Where does the air flow come from to cool the drives. As not much air is going to get around those solid caddie faces. As a rackmount. Its supposed to have front to back airflow. The almost solid front panel raises questions. The network ports have one up and one pointing down is an odd design choice. Not to mention being in the front.
The air seems to be drawn through the device. I have images in the written review linked in the description that shows how much ventilation there is at the back ( behind those data bays and around the internal PCB) and fed through those fans. It will make more sense in the article
I disagree that this is not an exciting product. I think it is exciting to see such an intuitive user interface, a focus on the basics, and very capable hardware for such an unheard of low price. I don't use the snazzy bits of my Synology NAS and would prefer the 10Gb/s connection and the intuitive interface of the UniFi NAS. UniFi don't unecessarily prescribe any UniFi-branded hardware and are yet to remove features that one paid for, like Synology. Can't wait to see RAID 6 support and perhaps a future model with support for media-transcoding and a USB port.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for a great video on this system. I felt your review was very honest and unbiased. I totally agree on your Pro's and Con's and for me, I think the 'current state' of this unit is underwhelming for my needs. Maybe if they release another unit that will allow third party software, unifi surveillance integration, a better CPU, and memory upgrades. BTW. I'm almost all in on the Unifi ecosystem although I do have a QNAP and Synology NAS.
Thank you, genuinely, for such a warm and detailed comment. I'm pretty shite at taking compliments, but frankly, your comment made my evening. Thanks bud
Unifi has a few great lines: wifi, switching, maybe power. Then they have some weird stuff: - Security cameras, where users can't add cameras in the phone app unless they are given admin rights. - Signage product that plays content on a TV. Nice idea, lousy software. Transitions between pictures are not suitable for public use. I didn't try access control yet. I wonder how will the NAS turn out.
I haven't had a "modern" NAS, I have a bit of a basic question. Can I buy this NAS, throw in two 20TB drives in RAID5, and then expand and switch it over to RAID6?
True, but to give them a little credit, they are pricing this at $499, which is massively lower than similarly scaled systems in the market. Still, there will no doubt be a Max version or something, down the road
@@nascomparesPrice… yeah, it’s the real « killer-feature ». But I wonder what’s the buyer use case, here. The fact it’s 2U means its either for SMBs or serious homelaber. And… neither will buy it. It lacks so much features. Different from homelaber to SMBs, but… still, it’s probably fall short of expectations.
You mentioned it's quiet and I've heard the same from other reviewers. What HDDs were you using when you put the mic on it? It sounded just like my UNVR, which is very quiet. I can't get over how quiet these Unifi devices are compared to my Synology with Ironwolf drives, which I can hear 2 rooms away.
Needs to have SFP+ for me to leave synology 2.5Gbps. I am very happy with synology software ecosystem (drive, photos, audio, video, VM Manager). I can't leave that either.
Oh, if they do release a pro max...an SE...an en as whatever...it will definitely be the same software on each. If docker is on one of them, it'll be on all of them. The differences between achievement with by CPU power, ram, storage bays and connectivity. You definitely won't lose out on docker by getting the 1st model.
@@nascompares yeah, I was thinking that too, just curious if they might release an update in the future to enable them. I'm sure they are getting hounded with requests for it by now.
This device is the beginning . It’s affordable and it’s easy to use. If it catches on, you bet you’re bippy, more will come. I’ve got four Synology unit in use between my family members and they are great but … I would love something that just efficiently stores data. It also appears that it may easily, allow safe direct remote access. I’ll have to watch how things go before I would purchase.
Nice POV bud. This will definitely end up as a 2nd stage backup for many for launch I reckon..but let's see what they can build on this frame work l...containers...protect ..COME ONE UNIFI...
A silent rackmount NAS is what I was searching for! Other rack mount NAS are too loud! I do not need docker, because I have docker on my Proxmox computer.
Good point. Tbh I should have spent more time in the vid on this systems low noise. It's been running in the background of ALOT of videos in the last 2 months..and never been a noise issue. Fairplay
I think it's very nice to have a system that's actually ONLY a NAS. I do use docker on my Synology devices at home and in the office. And the Synology backup between these two sites is so great that I wouldn't be without it. But for something like an actual online disk system in the office, this fits the bill nicely at a much lower price. Also, as an on-site backup for the backup, this would do well. The only reason why this is the case is the price, of course. If it had been comparable to Synology, why would you ever get it? It's nice to see someone hitting Synology with a price hammer, though. They've been getting a bit pricey over the years.
@@nascompares Absolutely agree that the price is very reasonable for comparably-sized rack models. Plus it might light a fire under the competition to re-think their pricing strategy. As you mentioned in the review, even with the budget-friendly CPU, it's still capable of more bells and whistles, which can be added later. Keeping my fingers crossed that they are devoted-enough to this product to continue development in the long run. Regarding the lack of Protect, I think this might be a partial reason for the lower price. They probably want you to buy another device for surveillance purposes. As for the odd number of drives, I think the thought process might be to run 6 of them in a RAID and have one on the ready as a hot spare.
I would be interested to know how the hardware compares to the Protect UNVRPro? But none of the reviews peek under the lid. Is it the same hardware but with more memory or is the more to it?
Phenomenal review and THANK YOU for the well labeled chapter marks in the video. Wanted to jump around to just my highest importance spots first in the video before watching end to end.
Lol the link in the description does have a commission on it! But DO NOT use it unless you genuinely think my video helped you make the choice. Don't clock for the sake of it etc. cheers for watching mate
I would buy this without hesitation if I could split data pools to have a 4 drive raid 1 nas as a data replication for my Synology, and a 3 bay raid 0 for unifi protect. To add to that, I would love love LOVE to also be able to use the drive bay in my UDM SE as an additional storage option for unifi protect. (I don't need redundancy for my home cameras Ubiquiti, I just want as many days recorded as drives I have available).
Good review. I’ve a question about user management and “directory integration”. Does it mean that instead of creating local users in this NAS, if I’ve a MS AD server on ny network, I can assign rights for some network users on some directories ?
The demand was a bit manic. I missed the official announcement but guess it was today. Interesting there is only 1 of each network connection but let me watch the video Edit, ok I received the launch comms from UniFi. As pure storage this isn’t bad and if I’m not mistaken a lot of your cons could be resolved over time (unless of course they need physical features which this lacks) For my needs 1U would have been better but I won’t discount it. Time Machine backups would be nice then I can maybe move my Plex server of the DS918+ to something else. Just miss the dedicated caching slots with this… How is she populated with SSD? Good start
Thinking if these do well they will come out with a 'Max' and 'Enterprise' editions. I've been looking at getting a Synology or building my own TrueNAS system for home. Now this came out, I have more research to do to see this will work for my home and families needs.
This seems interesting and I might even pull the trigger. It would be nice to have a single pane of glass to manage everything and not to have to worry about Synology and the lack of 3rd party device support. I mean from a NAS perspective it literally does just that and anything else can be added later. Also, do we know anything about the file system or did I miss it in the video? Is it BTRFS or EXT4? Also, more information about the backups would be awesome! Like is this sort of like hyper backup?
@@nascompares Any information on the underlying file system? For example is it using BTRFS or EXT4? If it is using EXT4 then I would suppect the snapshots would be LVM based like QTS. Then of course there is the backup part of the conversation, like how are those laid out on SMB/CIFS shares when writting to a SMB server?
Can’t wait for UNAS Pro ‘Max’ which has Docker and VM support 😂
And Go Faster Ethernet lighting, don't forget that!
*BURN*
@@PolarRed one can also add RGB lights to each hdd cage so you can see how the drives are running :}
Then they enterprise version with power and network redundancy
It's not apple, it'll be the UNAS Pro Ultra! 😂😂
My entire feed is now just tech tubers reviewing this device. I'm guessing they must have all been waiting for an embargo to end. I am, of course, watching this guys review because he's THE MAN.
You are BANG ON there. This device has been in and around the background of ALOT of us for AGES - embargo'd all to hell, but also it's been in active software development for 4 separate versions in 12 month. Between you and me...this is the 2.5th time I've recorded this video!! I have a completely different version of this review from June that was much, much more negative - but UniFi listened to alot of the feedback in development and delayed the release till they implemented it. I might make a whole video on this one day
@@nascompares that’s really good though. Send it to the actual people who will use it and give the best possible feedback on how to form the software. Thank you !
@@nascompares really surprised to hear that they had them out in the wild so early. It’s great though, sounds like they have used that time to iterated on it a bunch and not just squeeze out a half baked product to get it to market.
@@nascomparesthat’s something you don’t hear a lot. Now there one more reason to love UniFi and the company!! Great work. But I’m not gonna buy it until it has docker implemented. Great device for storage though😬
@@nascompares Wait. They listened? Are you sure you talked to Ubiquiti? And yet my Unifi doorbell still can't trigger a video feed on my Unifi phone?
This looks like a decent start - funnily enough while eating my bacon, egg and black pudding (and watching this video), I got the email from Ubiquiti titled "Welcome to Unifi Drive and UNAS Pro" (1134hrs EDT). As others have commented though, I won't be swapping my DS920+ for the UNAS Pro. I do have a Ubiquiti network setup, so was very excited when I saw your video this morning. As always - great video and thanks for taking the time to post!
I mean...now I'm hungry. Thanks.... FS
Defiantly going to pick one of these up. Don't give a hoot about the docker side, that's why I have servers. I want a storage NAS that does just that, store things and get data to the right users, I don't want to host my docker apps from it as well. Great video thanks for the review!
Can we all just take a minute and appreciate that users that JUST want this thing as storage exist!! I did NOT do a good enough job of highlighting that in the vid
@@nascompares « users that JUST want to » in a 2U server… that definitely limits the pool of users out there. Probably experienced homelaber… which means, people who will expect NFS or ZFS… and docker. So… probably not a lot.
@@nascompares I'm definitely increasingly in that camp, but my needs would be beyond what this can do from a performance and resilience perspective.
It's an interesting entry into the market, dipping their toe. I suppose this is similar to how in general Ubiquti doesn't have much gear for the faster network speeds in comparison to Mikrotik.
I agree, this fits exactly what a home lab user like me wants. Just stable secure storage for my files! I have a dedicated proxmox cluster to run my services.
The device feels like the perfect unit for low cost offsite backup storage. Easy to lock away in a comms rack and you wont saturate the write speeds over the wire.
and tied all into the unifi single pane setup they got going, this is a perfect fit for that use
This as a no-frill local data replication of the Unraid and TrueNAS systems I already own. Absolutely perfect.
I really like this product. Most home users these days want a "NAS" but really they want a home server that runs a lot of different services and stores files for their network and they think their NAS is supposed be that device. I appreciate that this device goes back to being what a NAS was originally intended to be and seems targeted perfectly to the small business and home business market.
This hits the damn nail on the head. Nice 1
I agree completely. To be honest I looked at doing a server with a traditional NAS and just found the convience of my Synology fit the bill. I only run one or two server apps so it handles things quite well. My entire network is Unifi so this intrigues me as a true NAS and will probably in the future purchase it.
That sounds like me. So what’s a NAS then?
@@swashyhimself Network Attached Storage
or how about having the feature to do non-NAS services and enable it with disclaimer? oh yea apple user unifi stupidity cant handle that
Their thinking on the 1G port is probably to use that on a management network for config management and use the 10G for data only. At least that's usually how appliances set up like that are intended to be used. Would be nice to have more ports for flexibility though if you're trying to do something like directly attaching vm hosts.
I saw this release announcement and instantly search your channel knowing you HAD to have been right on top of it!
Because I'm so cool *puts on shades that have a Kellogg's cornflakes logo on one lens*, you're damn right
(I wish that was a lie about the shades)
Thanks for the review, well done and thorough. Not surprised to see no availability for Docker at this point. At the price point, this is great for fire storage. It's not HA or high-speed system, which is fine. There are other players for that type of equipment. It appears that UI gave us a purpose-built system that does one thing really well, at a price that is hard to not smile at.
Yep - never a truer word spoken.
This thing is like half the price of a 8 bay synology. I was getting ready to buy an 8 bay in a couple months, but I might get this now.
Glad I could help bud. Using the link in the description means me and Eddie here at NC get a commission (helps us keep doing this). But seriously, only if you really want the system.
As the owner of an 1822+ and big fan of synology AND Unifi (we’re an MSP and install both regularly for clients) I agree with the video in that IF you utilized any of the app features of synology this isn’t going to replace it. But if you just want rock solid NAS storage , rack form factor, and already into Unifi this is a NO BRAINER purchase at this price.
I’m 1000% sure a higher powered Max version will be coming to try to win over the rest of the market, soon. The cortex in this one and the fact it’s literally just the existing UNVR hardware make it unsuitable for running containers and apps IMO.
@@nascomparesdo you have a store link for Europe?
@@NoOperation32But that’s the problem right here… Who is the buyer here? SMBs ? It will lack too many features… Homelabers (because its 2U, not a box you put on a desk) ? It will lack the ability to run Dockers, for example (and good luck with that ARM CPU).
The product doesn’t make sense… unless they already planned additional updates down the road, but… that got to be pretty limited.
@@floriantthebault521 easy solution, SFF docker machine with shares from the UNAS mapped. Synology units are pretty underpowered as it is. Even if someone was to get something like the RS822+, a recycled machine with an i7 is gonna beat the pants off it for performance.
The perfect NAS... a pure local storage device without any extras.
When you don't want another server, you get a NAS like this one.
Pure comment. Nice
Such a detailed review, thank you 😊 It is a pity about Docker/VM/Plex support (or lack of!), but I understand why Ubi have focused on making just a NAS right now.
Also re reply you made to another comment, I would love to watch the story of how you had to reshoot this video multiple times. Fair play to you on the patience.
I'm not entirely sure I can show it legally (embargo agreements - but hope to discuss it with ubiquiti when this product is out there, as it's genuinely a positive story on them....but also... ABSOLUTELY INFURIATING FOR ME). Will work on it
@@nascompares ahh makes sense. Yes that could be cool, especially if it's positive for them. It's pretty great they listened to all the feedback and delayed things as appropriate 🙂
Great video! will be using your link to purchase one.
I currently have a TrueNAS box that has 9 drives in it but going to scale down to 7 drives anyways to save power consumption (yes for me it does make that big of a difference). That is the biggest thing for me... when my NAS is at idle it is 90-100w and reading/ writing heavy it is 160-200 w. I don't do docker or anything like that on my NAS, I have another machine for that. I just need something efficient and that will do the storage thing well, and it will match my other Unifi equipment.... lol
Thanks for the kind words and supporting me and Eddie (just me and him at Nascompares) in what we do. You bloody hero
The photo sharing and date sorting is something that I am glad is present.
I love all the competition that's been popping-up recently.
EX-FUCKING-ACTLY! THIS!
This is an superb video !
You really know your stuff and you really gave us an insight into the product, what it can and can't do with lots of visual showing of it
I think you hit it on the head at the end Robbie. I'm defo going to be replacing my onsite backup ext. drives with one of these (going by how stuff sells out on their site though, that's probably going to be around 4/3 2025!). But it won't be replacing the Synology for day to day work stuff that's for sure.
Glad you liked the vid bud
Great Video thanks. I've been waiting for something like this since I turned off my Power hungry Apple 1U Servers and huge Apple RAIDs and bought a Qnap, which I have hated for years. All I want is mountable storage , easy to use, no faffing about, couldn't care less about Apps and Containers and real hot swappable storage. Gonna get one for sure.
You sir (may I call you Kev?) might be the ideal user for this system! Nice
@@nascompares ye you can call me Kev everyone does. It’s exactly what I want a NAS to do. I miss my Apple RAIDs and Rack server combo they just be worked. But 2 RAIDs with 2 900w psu inside both machines. Too expensive to run. I find logging into QNAP a pain in backside. 2 form factor authentication is too slow, clock mismatch’s between systems does my head in. The software on the new UniFi NAS might be limited, but like all UniFi stuff it will get great updates and they listen to their users. I like that a lot in a company.
They are definitely after the home lab market, not commercial. Ticks all the boxes for me!
Great introduction and descriptive video to this NAS. Thanks for your efforts!
Great video, this is almost exactly what I have been looking for, just need the ability to make immutable backups (WORM) which it sounds like you are expecting from them in the near future. Will be looking forward to your future videos.
I’m running a bare metal k8s cluster, so I really don’t need to be able to run docker containers on a nas. This is exactly what I wanted and at a great price. Ubiquiti nailed their first NAS outing
Hi there, thanks for the video.
I am looking to see the following:
1. iPhone and Android Applications to backup the pictures from the phone into the UNAS.
2. something similar to google documents to create office documents directly on the UNAS.
3. backup up one entire windows computer to the UNAS, similar to synology backup for business. .
WOW, excellent review, I have Unify network setup at home along with a QNAP NAS and heard on the grape vine that there may be a Unifi NAS released soon, and that price, you can't go wrong... Can't wait for future updates to see whether they include docker etc as I do like having the utils that QNAP provide. 😁
Fantastic in depth review man! I just got the Minisforum MS-01 to replace my DS918+ in terms of server needs, so my Synology is just acting as storage now, so this would be the perfect unit for me to upgrade to 10Gbe to go with the rest of my UniFi stuff besides that it doesn’t have NFS yet :/ quick question, when you say reactive storage, do you mean you can add drives to the pool without wiping and just increase pool size?
Having already invested in Unifi gear (including a Pro switch with a spare SFP+ port) and already having a fairly beefy Proxmox host in play to host applications this seems like a great option!
Nice. Not jealous at all. Not one bit. Not even slightly.
....dick
I love your review. No shade on any of the other reviewers, but your review is geared more towards how "I" am looking to use a NAS for my work loads.
Thank you for the kind words Sean! Genuinely appreciated
Thanks.. good review. I have converted all my networking to Unifi and am considering while building a new house whether I want to use Unifi cameras. If this could have replaced the UDM it would have been a no brainer, but as a satisfied UnRaid user of 20 years, the lack of some networking and apparent inability to mix/match drive sizes may make me just get a UDM and keep my existing UnRaid. Definitely something to keep my eyes on though.
Amazing review! Thank you!!! Excited to see Uniquiti launch a simple JBOD NAS and looking forward to the future of where they take it!
Exactly!
I've got multiple Synology's in my house, and I love them. I also have a full Unifi setup. I'd love to try transitioning to one of these in the future, but I'm going to wait until the software gets a little more polished, and some more features get added. But $500 for a 7 bay rack mountable NAS is a great price!
You are the classic 2nd tier deployer of this system that I covered in the video conclusion - and rightly so! Synology earned its way into your network data solution. But never hurts to have a decent enough 2nd backup tier, even off-site
Then this system at least has a shot at impressing and stretching out later on down the line
GREAT video and I love that they have nailed the fundamentals. In your comparative videos, I suspect it's going to be REALLY hard to find something in this price range that can even come close. (Find an off the shelf 7 bay NAS for $500?)
You are bang on there. Terramaster's U8 comes close (and even then, not even that close), whereas the QNAP TS-832PXU and Synology RS1221+ are the nearest from them..and they are almost twice the price. Alternative 4 bay models are RS422+ and TS-432PXU.. and even then, ALOT of give and take. Watch out for today's video in about 10 hours .
@@nascompares It COULD give me a reason to give up on the TS-h973ax/TrueNAS (even though it works Fantastic)
I don't understand the connectivity/single PSU complaints. The thing's 500 bucks. It's got SFP+. This is 100% a repurposed NVR, and fit for purpose at a frankly insane price. Great for storing your jellyfin library and similar workloads. Don't ask it to do stuff it wasn't designed for.
I see your point, but I do think I should also add that 1- the price was only revealed to me/others Less than a week ago (hence why you will likely see this only sparsely covered in people's videos), and 2, even at this price - it's a 2U 7 Bay 10GbE Rackmount - this is seemingly a small business targetted system. Therefore these are still features that need to be discussed, even if it's to highlight they are absent at the price
@@nascompares i have rarely seen an SMB used NFS..... SMB tends to use, ahem, SMB/CIFS - that said i am sure they will ad at some point when they can figure out how to make it simple and easy - squash permissions are hard for many folks to understand and get right AND secure.
There is no way one more SFP port would have cost that much and they could have easily added an empty power supply bay for an additional option if you want to pay more ..
@@Aaron-zl5gq I think this is the entry level model.
@@ploed totally entry lvl. Beats using an old computer for a NAS, but still is very much still expensive at that price.
Not sure how they can call this a “pro” device… Great review Rob
Cheers bud
Oh, what a great NAS!
Will it be available in Japan?
I am very much looking forward to it!
AHH...that's a Q for UI.com
is there a way to gracefully shut down the nas in case of power outage (with a ups of course) maybe with NUT?
It is "cheap", short depth, quiet, and Unifi. Those are the selling points. Everything else goes hard to the other guys by all appearances. Qnap has a few very short depth (33cm) NAS as well, but the price point speaks for itself.
For the price, this is great! I usually have my Plex server and VMs and stuff on another machine anyway. Seems pretty desirable to split the two so you have some redundancy.
Can hardly wait for the Enterprise NVR to be released as a NAS WOW
Dude this is amazing how many people are now entering the consumer space. honestly if the software is stable and good like synologys and as a storage server this seems like a no brainer for a home user who doesn't want to configure a lot.
Synology is the only NAS brand where I think their software adds value beyond being a storage server. But if I'm being honest, over time as I've migrated most of my docker/VM services over to Proxmox or XCP-ng and have very little running on the Synology hardware itself.
I could see myself being interested in exploring Unifi as a storage server in the future, but I'd need a higher performance version.
same here, i use synology as mostly a pure NAS, rest is on a nuc cluster, the synology backup needs more features before i can move (like backup to azure warm/cold storage)
This looks really interesting to me. My big question though, what if you get more than 1 of these? Say I expand and need more than 7 drives, could I buy a second unit and have the pools merge between the 2? Because that would be cool. Also seeing performance stats of SATA SSD's would be nice too!
Excellent review. Thank you. I would really be interesting to knowing what drive setup with RAID5 would be needed to saturate the 10b both for reads and writes. Your numbers are not that great with the drives you used. Could faster hard drives do it? Would SATA SSD's do it and how many would be needed? I am not buying another NAS with 10g that will only do less than half the network capabilities. With this unit in particular, it really needs to have 10g file transfer capabilities.
Have they changed shipping date; I saw Oct 25th. Now it says Nov 4th!
I would love this plus something like the Synology Drive software.
Great comprehensive video. I absolutely love all things Ubiquity but I feel like I want to wait for another version or at least more apps. I have a Synology now and don’t even scratch the surface of the features available (including things like running docker images) but the one thing your video suggested is given the lack of use of file metadata I would certainly be missing some app features like the Synology photo app at least and probably video as well so I could look up pictures by person (facial recognition) or geo (show me my Aruba vacation pictures)
I have wanted all things Uniquity on my network and maybe I just need to wait a few software and maybe even a hardware revision or 2. I feel like it may need more memory and CPU once and IF they start to add more app features.
Also, I wish they would have done an M.2 drive slot at least for caching.
Thanks for the 10/10 input bud
Thanks for the deep dive. Any news on the ability to mix drive capacities?
Unfortunately no. I tried mixed 4TB and 8TB pool, everything was treated as 4's
@@nascompares Awww that's a shame. Mind you given UI's propensity to add features down the line it might still appear in due course. I'm looking forward to the "Ultra" version of Unifi Drive using a Cloud Gateway Max/Ultra chassis and a cluster of M.2 NVME drives! 🤞🤞🤞
Brilliant and Honest review as always, thanks. I don't think I will dumping my TrueNAS Scale box anytime soon, but it's one to keep an eye on 😀
Thanks for the positive words buddy, really appreciated
The only thing I would have liked was for them to drop the RPS connection and put in dual hot-swappable power supplies. But I get it, they are using the existing hardware from the UNVR Pro so it takes much less effort to make one of these. I plan on getting two of these. One for my primary backups and then the second one for backups of my backups. I will use my current Synology NAS that I am currently using for backups as a Docker system running HA and Plex and move my backups from Synology to the Ubiquiti NAS.
Ubiquiti systems already run docker under the hood. So, it would be very easy for them to make a “hosting” app available under UniFi OS.
My thoughts EXACTLY
Great review! Thank you.
Just to clarify... I cannot have 2x 16TB disk in here without RAID, together with 4x 4TB disks in RAID10 right? Because the two 16TB ones would be consumed by the RAID as well (as 4TB disks).
Is that correct?
Its their NVR with different software… I think for MOST. Home users and even small businesses it is a great design!
Kind of limited to me but I can see this being great for a lot of people, especially those already using Ubiquity equipment and/or who might be on the fence about buying Synology. Kind of refreshing to see a 'pure' NAS though as someone who still believes in separating storage and compute.
Exactly. This!
VMs are heavy on the ressources, I could understand why it ain't there, but missing Docker support is a no-go. I remain on TrueNAS for the time being.
Too true!
Thanks for the review!
If it had NFS, I'd be down. Without, not so much. Possibly also a radius server or something reliant for auth.
Looks like your last video comments for opening CCTV and NAS has been addressed? I have just purchased the UCG_Max (F*kn brilliant!) and adopted 2 ONVIF camera (out of 3 in my setup) Awesome! And now I can also bin my sh!ty Google Doorbell and get the G4 doorbell! Oh.. and a Unify NAS? I hope i can connect that extra storage to my UCG Max!
Would be awesome if they released the nas SW as an app for the NVR lineup.
Can't hurt to dream...
Great and very timely review Thanks! Did I understand you correctly, can you uses different sized drives in the raid array (like Synology Hybrid raid) or do all drives the array need to be the same size?
They all need to be the same. If you put multiple sizes in, they are all recognized as the smallest size.
Genuinely worried about this as ive been using a UNVR Pro for a while as a nas using SSH to install samba. I hope they dont artificially block people using the UNVR Pro now that there is an official NAS offering
Interesting that you were able to do that
I have been using 4 bay UNVR exactly like that and love it. Will get this though and factory reset the unvr back to protect ;)
Needs iSCSI, NFS and SSD caching. Maybe Pro Max next year will have those.
That's the dream...
No tower or 10“ version. Not suitable for a small rack in confined spaces. So my choice will be still Synology.
Great video, lots of details thanks! One question, can you mix and match different HDD sizes? As someone who hacked unvr to NAS, I have installed 4 disks which automatically turned on raid 5. Is this the same case with UNAS PRO?
Unfortunately no, all disks will be treated a srhe capacity of the smallest drive, and adding an HDD to an existing array will only allow it if the drive is the same/larger than those in the array
This will save me a ton on having a NAS to backup my 1821+. My old 4 bay Synology died. So, I'm backing up one volume on my 1821+ to another volume on the same NAS, which obviously worries me. I can't justify buying another 8 bay Synology, but I can justify this easily. As soon as it's proven itself in production environments, I'm getting one.
This is close to what I'm thinking also. But about production: This is very much a rehash of what the UNVR Pro has been doing for years, as that had the same hardware and also has RAID setup. So I really don't think you need to wait. There can of course be software bugs in the new code for the "Drive" app in Unify, but this is almost entirely UI only. I think you can safely pick this up already.
@@bothorsen4292 Good point.
If the unit included NFS, multiple volumes and mixed hard drive sizes . . . that would be then end of Synology for me.
A luxury version with larger screen - summarising all the data at a glance would be a nice option.
could i put my backup copies of movies on this and run plex from a computer and access from any tv?
Be nice if they allowed for backups to AWS or Backblaze via their AWS api thing.
It's pretty clear their goal for this device is having basic file storage for users of a home/small business that are going to connect to shared folders on mac and windows systems. What a NAS by definition really is... I see a lot of people complaining about lack of redundant network ports, NFS, iSCSI, etc. IMO, I think all those features they're wanting are things needed when you are building enterprise infrastructure and Ubiquiti knows that's really best handled by a proper SAN product from the likes of Dell, HP, IBM, NetApp, etc.
I mostly agree..but not the RP, iSCSI and container deployment (slightly less so on that one, I'll admit). As although I agree that this is a NAS by definition/design, the whole REASON people wanted a UniFi NAS, was because that wanted a single ecosystem - and UniFi pretty much supplies everything else. So, in order for a UniFi NAS to replace/over-ride a Synology or a QNAP, it has to give the building blocks to do so. Everything else after containers, iSCSI and redundant PSUs in this Rackmount can be 'built' using these
Thanks for really nice video!
When sharing a folder, you can add a user. What user is this? Is this something that you create on your machine?
And how does the remote login for it look?
I'm currently using Nextcloud on Truenas to share large video files. All my friends and clients have a personal login where they view/download/reshare the media. I'm curious if I can replicate this with the UNAS.
Also, when you preview/stream remotely a video file does it transcode? If yes, does it also do h265? Sorry for the interrogation :P It's just it can be a dealbreaker or dream for me depending on the answer.
Great review. Could you please also test performance with SSD drives? Would like to see how close to 10 Gbps those transfer speeds can be.
Just trying to nail down 7x the same SSDs, got batches of 2s and 4s, but different caps. Will use a mixed pool if I have to. I'm on this
@@nascompares Awesome! I subscribed, don't want to miss that video :)
@@nascompares also please check power consumption with SSDs, but I'm sure you are doing it anyway.
Hey Ubiquiti, how about putting Drive on the UDM and NVRs? I want to learn the software while you are working out the bugs.
The lack of a professional cloud backup with „time travel“ and restore options are stopping me from using this device
First galance. Where does the air flow come from to cool the drives. As not much air is going to get around those solid caddie faces. As a rackmount. Its supposed to have front to back airflow. The almost solid front panel raises questions.
The network ports have one up and one pointing down is an odd design choice. Not to mention being in the front.
The air seems to be drawn through the device. I have images in the written review linked in the description that shows how much ventilation there is at the back ( behind those data bays and around the internal PCB) and fed through those fans. It will make more sense in the article
Good stuff thanks for making this video
I disagree that this is not an exciting product. I think it is exciting to see such an intuitive user interface, a focus on the basics, and very capable hardware for such an unheard of low price. I don't use the snazzy bits of my Synology NAS and would prefer the 10Gb/s connection and the intuitive interface of the UniFi NAS. UniFi don't unecessarily prescribe any UniFi-branded hardware and are yet to remove features that one paid for, like Synology. Can't wait to see RAID 6 support and perhaps a future model with support for media-transcoding and a USB port.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for a great video on this system. I felt your review was very honest and unbiased. I totally agree on your Pro's and Con's and for me, I think the 'current state' of this unit is underwhelming for my needs. Maybe if they release another unit that will allow third party software, unifi surveillance integration, a better CPU, and memory upgrades. BTW. I'm almost all in on the Unifi ecosystem although I do have a QNAP and Synology NAS.
Thank you, genuinely, for such a warm and detailed comment. I'm pretty shite at taking compliments, but frankly, your comment made my evening. Thanks bud
Unifi has a few great lines: wifi, switching, maybe power.
Then they have some weird stuff:
- Security cameras, where users can't add cameras in the phone app unless they are given admin rights.
- Signage product that plays content on a TV. Nice idea, lousy software. Transitions between pictures are not suitable for public use.
I didn't try access control yet.
I wonder how will the NAS turn out.
I haven't had a "modern" NAS, I have a bit of a basic question. Can I buy this NAS, throw in two 20TB drives in RAID5, and then expand and switch it over to RAID6?
Seems a little underwhelming re-using the same hardware as the UNVR-Pro with a 2012 processor and no NVMe caching.
True, but to give them a little credit, they are pricing this at $499, which is massively lower than similarly scaled systems in the market. Still, there will no doubt be a Max version or something, down the road
@@nascomparesPrice… yeah, it’s the real « killer-feature ». But I wonder what’s the buyer use case, here. The fact it’s 2U means its either for SMBs or serious homelaber. And… neither will buy it. It lacks so much features. Different from homelaber to SMBs, but… still, it’s probably fall short of expectations.
@@nascompares I have the UNVR Pro, would be cool af to install UNAS on it given it's the same hardware.
@@fiftyfiftyoneUNVR Pro only had 4 GB of RAM. This has 8GB.
Edit:
I was wrong both have 8GB. 🤦🏻♂️
@@williamp6800 pro has 8gb
You mentioned it's quiet and I've heard the same from other reviewers. What HDDs were you using when you put the mic on it? It sounded just like my UNVR, which is very quiet. I can't get over how quiet these Unifi devices are compared to my Synology with Ironwolf drives, which I can hear 2 rooms away.
I used 4x Toshiba MG08 8TBs (these are the official UniFi drives), but later I used 8x 8TB WD Red Pros.
Needs to have SFP+ for me to leave synology 2.5Gbps. I am very happy with synology software ecosystem (drive, photos, audio, video, VM Manager). I can't leave that either.
Waiting for the NAS pro MAX if it has docker/vm support.
Oh, if they do release a pro max...an SE...an en as whatever...it will definitely be the same software on each. If docker is on one of them, it'll be on all of them. The differences between achievement with by CPU power, ram, storage bays and connectivity. You definitely won't lose out on docker by getting the 1st model.
@@nascompares yeah, I was thinking that too, just curious if they might release an update in the future to enable them. I'm sure they are getting hounded with requests for it by now.
I'M SO EXCITED! Let's see how it stands up to Synology!
- Jonathan
*tilts hat* Mr Mercado. A gent and a scholar indeed
This device is the beginning . It’s affordable and it’s easy to use.
If it catches on, you bet you’re bippy, more will come.
I’ve got four Synology unit in use between my family members and they are great but … I would love something that just efficiently stores data.
It also appears that it may easily, allow safe direct remote access.
I’ll have to watch how things go before I would purchase.
Nice POV bud. This will definitely end up as a 2nd stage backup for many for launch I reckon..but let's see what they can build on this frame work l...containers...protect ..COME ONE UNIFI...
A silent rackmount NAS is what I was searching for! Other rack mount NAS are too loud! I do not need docker, because I have docker on my Proxmox computer.
Good point. Tbh I should have spent more time in the vid on this systems low noise. It's been running in the background of ALOT of videos in the last 2 months..and never been a noise issue. Fairplay
Great video. Soon as they get Docker; I am in.
Same. Right now, this is a 2nd stage target backup
16 bay version will be here soon and it’s also already at a cheaper price than Synology. They do have stacking but I would assume that’s also possible
I think it's very nice to have a system that's actually ONLY a NAS. I do use docker on my Synology devices at home and in the office. And the Synology backup between these two sites is so great that I wouldn't be without it.
But for something like an actual online disk system in the office, this fits the bill nicely at a much lower price. Also, as an on-site backup for the backup, this would do well.
The only reason why this is the case is the price, of course. If it had been comparable to Synology, why would you ever get it? It's nice to see someone hitting Synology with a price hammer, though. They've been getting a bit pricey over the years.
Nice perspective, bud. Respect.
How about power consumption? Did I miss that part?
Good start, but no NVME, NFS or iSCSI - meh
It's $499..come on man, let them walk before they can run!
@@nascompares Absolutely agree that the price is very reasonable for comparably-sized rack models. Plus it might light a fire under the competition to re-think their pricing strategy.
As you mentioned in the review, even with the budget-friendly CPU, it's still capable of more bells and whistles, which can be added later. Keeping my fingers crossed that they are devoted-enough to this product to continue development in the long run.
Regarding the lack of Protect, I think this might be a partial reason for the lower price. They probably want you to buy another device for surveillance purposes.
As for the odd number of drives, I think the thought process might be to run 6 of them in a RAID and have one on the ready as a hot spare.
@@nascompares NFS and ISCSI is table stakes. Im letting the NVME slide for the moment.
@@Yandarval yeah no nfs and iscsi is the real miss here. that makes it go from a maybe to a no.
@@bearxor yep, nfs / iSCSI etc would be a fundamental requirement for even an entry level NAS.
Hopefully seperate pools setup will be added in the near future :)
Exactly
I would be interested to know how the hardware compares to the Protect UNVRPro? But none of the reviews peek under the lid. Is it the same hardware but with more memory or is the more to it?
Phenomenal review and THANK YOU for the well labeled chapter marks in the video. Wanted to jump around to just my highest importance spots first in the video before watching end to end.
Thank you for the kind words bud
A true lean, clean STORING machine. WONDERFUL!
UNIFI should pay you a comission. Your excellent thorough review just sold one device to me.
Lol the link in the description does have a commission on it! But DO NOT use it unless you genuinely think my video helped you make the choice. Don't clock for the sake of it etc. cheers for watching mate
I would buy this without hesitation if I could split data pools to have a 4 drive raid 1 nas as a data replication for my Synology, and a 3 bay raid 0 for unifi protect. To add to that, I would love love LOVE to also be able to use the drive bay in my UDM SE as an additional storage option for unifi protect. (I don't need redundancy for my home cameras Ubiquiti, I just want as many days recorded as drives I have available).
Good review.
I’ve a question about user management and “directory integration”. Does it mean that instead of creating local users in this NAS, if I’ve a MS AD server on ny network, I can assign rights for some network users on some directories ?
In theory, yeah. But I didn't have an Microsoft address setup to confirm the extent/implementation
The demand was a bit manic. I missed the official announcement but guess it was today. Interesting there is only 1 of each network connection but let me watch the video
Edit, ok I received the launch comms from UniFi. As pure storage this isn’t bad and if I’m not mistaken a lot of your cons could be resolved over time (unless of course they need physical features which this lacks)
For my needs 1U would have been better but I won’t discount it. Time Machine backups would be nice then I can maybe move my Plex server of the DS918+ to something else. Just miss the dedicated caching slots with this…
How is she populated with SSD?
Good start
There are screw holes in the drive sleds so you can use 2.5” SATA SSD.
But no NVMe option.
@@williamp6800 ah I cut my sentence short. SSD in terms of speed with the arm chip and 10g uplink
@@mvp_kryptonite that would be interesting to know. 👍
Thinking if these do well they will come out with a 'Max' and 'Enterprise' editions.
I've been looking at getting a Synology or building my own TrueNAS system for home. Now this came out, I have more research to do to see this will work for my home and families needs.
Stay tuned tomorrow for a video coming out that will help you with that...
Awesome review! Can you set disks to spindown for lower power consumption when not in use?
No, no HDD hibernation. But the roadmap sounds VAST and if that (and scheduled on/off ain't on there, it bloody should be)
The roadmap being what you fed back to UniFi (I’m guessing they won’t release a roadmap)
This seems interesting and I might even pull the trigger. It would be nice to have a single pane of glass to manage everything and not to have to worry about Synology and the lack of 3rd party device support. I mean from a NAS perspective it literally does just that and anything else can be added later.
Also, do we know anything about the file system or did I miss it in the video? Is it BTRFS or EXT4?
Also, more information about the backups would be awesome! Like is this sort of like hyper backup?
I think this is a solution SQUARELY aimed at your bud. Respect
@@nascompares Any information on the underlying file system? For example is it using BTRFS or EXT4? If it is using EXT4 then I would suppect the snapshots would be LVM based like QTS. Then of course there is the backup part of the conversation, like how are those laid out on SMB/CIFS shares when writting to a SMB server?
Can an existing UNVR-Pro be turned into a UNAS Pro? Is the hardware identical? Is the software the only difference?