Germans miss the 'good old days' of the GDR
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2008
- REPORTAGE : A wave of nostalgia for the former GDR is sweeping parts of Berlin. Eighteen years after reunification, knowledge of the communist regime is fading, and its most unpleasant aspects are beginning to be glossed over.
"Ask the people who lived under the regime"
The people who lived under it:
This is the 1 or 5% of the population, not all people from east Germany got nostalgia of this era
@@erikzelada5578 over 50% in fact
@@erikzelada5578 Why lie? Polls have consistently shown that people want socialism back, you being a petulant little child doesn't change that undisputable fact.
As an East German, I want to tell my sight of things here. After the Wall fell down, people thought that all things will get better, but they didn't. A lot of people lost their work and everything changed very fast. Several people from West Germany tried to make money with the new situation. For example, they sold broken cars for a high price. Towns in the east also lost a lot of inhabitants, thats a problem until today, also the unemployment.
Today Germany is managed by a few rulers of industry, military and trading. That's not much better as in times of GDR, I think. But in the east, things have changed a lot. Towns have been renovated and invite to a visit. Most of the streets are new or repaired. People like living here. They're polite and courteous.
What I don't understand is why people in East Germany still earn less money than people in West Germany and why 25 years after the German Unity still a lot of people from West Germany have never seen the east of the country.
Finally, let me say: If you have the chance to visit this place here, you won't regret it.
+1988deef My brother was a British soldier over in West Germany during the Cold War. He also had to do a stint at "Check Point Charlie". I was only a kid at the time and I remember my parents speaking about "The Iron Curtain". I though that part of Europe had a big curtain dividing it. It wasn't until I was a bit older I realized it meant secrecy, silence, spies and people not being able to move about freely. I went there recently to Berlin to visit all the sites my brother had worked at. I have fallen in love with Berlin, the Berliners east and west are an amazing people. It must have been hard for the two sides to integrate and be as one however I hope it is working and things will only get better.
+Ms eldee Thanks a lot for your comment! I find it nice that you like Berlin. I hope you get the chance to visit some other German towns. And, of course, learning about history by visiting historical places like the "Check Point Charlie" is the best. Lots of people don't know that we have a lot of British things here. For example one of the biggest museums about the Beatles. I've never been in Britain, but I plan to visit it soon, especially London.
Catherine H.
You will not regret it. There are so much nice places, towns and landscapes.
Ms eldee
Scotland must be very nice.
1988deef, 1988deef, I do believe that east germans miss communism. I am an communist myself. But........why don't people vote for a communist party? And if people miss communism why is there reported rising in far right neo nazis? Just wondering since you live there
A guy from East Germany once told me he used to watch the black channel, a state sponsored show with Karl-Eduard von Schnitzler (Der schwarze Kanal). He and his friends used to laugh about it and call it communist state propaganda. But when the GDR fell in 1990, they realized "they [the SED] were telling the truth. Capitalism is dehumanizing and cynical."
Why doesn't "socialism" have a real German word? I mean, "Sozialismus" sounds ridiculous and artificial. You have "sauerstuff" for oxygen maybe something like "folkheit" will do?
@@wokeeye6441 i guess you are american huh?
@@sozialismuspfalzischerprag968 what does this have to do with anything?
@@wokeeye6441 because usually when you hear something like that it comes from an american
@@sozialismuspfalzischerprag968
Does an ordinary American go into a linguistic disquisition about German cognates? What are you smoking?
Anti-communists: "Why don't you ask the people that lived there!!1!"
*asks the people that lived there*
Anti-Communists: "no not like that"
Don't care. DDR is still dead and will remain dead.
@@declannewton2556 It probably wont be called DDR but the people will want it back…
@@rexisnox577
They don't want capitalism, but they don't want to divide their people again.
@@declannewton2556 True thats why this time it will be east and west both socialist.
@@rexisnox577 based
uhhh yeah because the GDR was based
based on these nuts
Uhh hello??? Based department??????
True
Nein
@@Thug_Nuts1 Du bist ein Dummkopf
Fun fact: At the time of it's collapse, East Germany actually had a very slightly superior HDI (human development index) rating to contimporary germany with it scoring a 0.953 and modern Germany scoring a 0.942
Yeah, real life in east germany was pretty normal and relaxing. Yes we had a lot of difficulties to get things. But in the end someone knew someone and we hat nice tabacco, coffee, washing machine or whatever.
Of course, socialism is people before profit
Born in East Berlin, my mother told me that she had a bttter life there rather than now, well, she knows more. I do enjoy Berlin as a whole as is my home and where I grew up, but yes, many old generations keep saying that old times were better. One of the things that extremely bothers me is why we get less money than the west, why? why the west in some point keep pushing us apart when they listen us speaking our accent. I am 100% Berliner and I will always support the East.
I think the division between east and west is a cultural/political problem, take for example how much people live in both east and west, more people = more business = more attention to that side, the second division is between politics I think, since East Germans have experienced an authoritarian far left wing government, they now lean to the libertarian right wing more. The opposite happened to the west. They have only experienced the WW2 government and they lean to the left wing more. And finally the last division is between religion. East Germany has one of the most atheist population in the world( because of communism and lack of reason to care , which I can understand) , western Germany doesn’t have an atheist majority because religion wasn’t banned like in the east. So basically to put it shortly : different experiences created a division that could possibly heal if both sides just worked on a new solution( maybe more government care in the east perhaps). Thanks for reading this wall of text lol
Why you get less money? Are you entitled to?
Well you guys are what remains from prussia they cant afford to have you rise again
Because West Germany occupied us, as an East German, we want our independence back!
@@truthseeking6611 yes, we are entitled to the exact same wage for the exact same work, not 15% less. Opposite to the gender wage gap this number accounts for hours worked in same jobs and only base salary instead of averages spanning fields of employment and bargained wages.
I thought it was the opposite, that the wall was put up because people wanted out of the DDR? Overall though, DDR was not as bad as people seem to think it was. They actually had the highest standard of living out of any socialist state.
However, the East Germans did not compare themselves to Mongolians, Albanians, or Poles, they compared themselves to West Germans, their visiting relatives whom they could see on visits, and watch on TV.
Mene, mene tekel upharsin....
Totally agree with MrHistoryman. History is written by the victors, and also, by those who control the media i.e those that are most threatened by socialism. The GDR had many positive features which should not be overlooked
Yes.😭
Yes. I asked an old Afghan man, who have seen the monarchy, Daud Khan, Communist PDPA rule. The old man told me, during the Communist PDPA rule, they have a greater freedom.
You don't appreciate what you have until you lose it
True
1989: we want reunited germany
----------------------------------------------------
2022: we want split germany now
You got it wrong. They were more like:
2018: We want the united Germany to be like the GDR
"The socialist regime was not a police state nightmare, but simply a different kind of state with different priorities."
One of the American commentators wrote this here, and it is perfectly true.
East Germany strictly differenciated between what was needed for everyday life and what belongs to the so called luxurious goods.
What is expensive today was much cheaper then: rents for flats, textiles, food, heating, education without payment, healthcare without payment, dentists without payment, no drugs, no unemployed, no prostitutes, no homeless. Everything was provided for. Cheap music schools, cheap tickets for opera houses and concert halls, regional libraries etc. People lived in absolute safety without any fear of their future or the future of their families and children.
The back side of the coin was a lower variety of consumer goods, less coloured paper and adverts on the walls, very expensive cars, TV sets and radios because people needed them maybe every eight or ten years only.
And travelling to the western countries was fairly restricted.
The life in the sphere of employment and family was much more free than today. Without any bureaucracy and oppression.
East Germany was an ideological dictatorship, today the western countries are fiscal and economic dictatorships.
East Germany was more pleasant to the employees, todays societies are more effective and profitable to the employers.
Just as simple as that.
You couldn't have put it in better words.
well written.
Same things to be said about Russia.
auroraborealis x really any place where socialism was overthrown.
But no freedom the most important thing to me! I am Italian.
Back then jobs were runned by the state. They may not have everything that they want. But had cheap food prices,free education, health-care and were always guarranteed to get a job. Today many people I know, have paid college degree education and can't get the job they studied so hard for it while food prices go insanely high and health-care is dumb expensive for a lot of people with all that economic inequality. Mid class is strangled by high taxes while the upper class is less affected by them.
@@greenskydiver427 not were I'm from the only real poor are those with zero ambishen
@@junioradult6219 ok, Junior.
Wait a second, This goes against the narrative. SHUT IT DOWN!!
@Eszra Falcontail yeah sure you are.. but i believe you because things have improved in the past 12 years soo
@Eszra Falcontail You had free education,free health care,cheap homes,cheap public transport, guaranteed work and protection in the work place but it was a tyranny because there was no mcdonalds and you couldn't watch porn
@@hueyfreeman1983 Okay, regardless of your economic beliefs, that was quite insensitive to the man’s family history.
@@raycom201 Ignorant pigs will always be ignorant pigs
@@hueyfreeman1983 "We'll take care of you and provide for your every need! All we ask in return is your complete and total submission!"
You are an ignorant moron.
Yes. I asked an old Afghan man, who have seen the monarchy, Daud Khan, Communist PDPA rule. The old man told me, during the Communist PDPA rule, they have a greater freedom. He told me that Communist Afghanistan was better.
The East Germans preserved much more of the original German culture compared to its western counter-part, which was heavily Americanised.
They banned the jugendweihe. Infiltrated and emasculated the Lutheran Church...banned thousands of German authors...
@@petebondurant58 so did the west with pro warsaw pact authors
@@AkhmatProductions Pro Warsaw Pact authors? Those people were allowed to speak at universities in the west.
@@petebondurant58 well i mean , they were, but they didnt give them space elsewhere besides universities and public speeches (limited speeches by the authorities).
@@AkhmatProductions There was a communist party in the United States. There were no opposition parties in any Warsaw Pact countries. There weren't "limited speeches" by leftists in American universities. Leftists had carte blanche to say and do whatever they wanted at US universities from the 1960s to the present day. You're just making things up.
"Why don't you ask somebody who actually LIVED under GOMMUNISM???!??!?"
lol because you wont find one? This was a socialistic state, which is the earliest and first phase of communist political evolution
Because nobody survived.
@@thecitizenoftheinternet1077 Your nickname matches comment lol
Bloody hell. Communists are having a party because one person liked a communist state. Whens the parade?
@@MichaelJ44 majority of east germans felt life was better under communism, nearly 60 percent of russians deeply regret the fall of the ussr. Im pretty sure its way more than one person
I remember east Germany growing up there miss it moved away in 1990
so much has changed.
Heya. My grandparents once went to your country (They are Russians) and my grandpa said that my grandma was surprised with the stuff you guys had there but didn't have in the USSR, like clothes, cars and etc. But i didn't learn much from it so i found you. Could you tell me what stuff you guys also had?
@@throwfascistsintopits3062 Hi
@@throwfascistsintopits3062 *throw communists into pits*
Did you hear what happened right after you moved away?
It will be back.
No doubt about it.
We must keep agitating, educating and organizing to expedite the process.
People remember the glory of socialism.
They will certainly join us in the final fight.
Lol
@@SpanishEnthusiastt lol, how were you doing, when Italy occupied Spain???
And when the communist fought to get it back???
Cope harder.
Yeah you can close up your GDR, but please let all people out who don't want it. 😅
A pro-communist was arguing why socialism isn't as bad as it was put to be and used east germans as an example. Honestly, this video backed it up.
Communism was awful. Reality backs that up.
@@Echo5427_ communism is when the government does everything, of course
Who built the wall? Capitalists or Communists?
@@Echo5427_ Alright..who's jumping 'em walls?
@@degamispoudegamis Another SJW spotted.
@idontsignin They thought that West Germany would be their savior and that everything would be wonderful. The rest was just euphoria.
They were lazy and wanted to magically become like the West. West Germany took decades to reach economic success. The Ossis wanted it handed to them.
@@petebondurant58 Lazy enough to pay back most of Germany's war reparations?
@@petebondurant58 Wrong, West Germans exploited the hell out of the east after the wall came down.
@@gtworldzhd4137 It is true. East German Industry was looted.
@Sebastian Guevara West Germany closed down all factories and sacked a lot of East German workers when they annexed The Gdr
People don't see it as a dictatorship, because there are so many positive aspects, such as guaranteed food, healthcare, housing, education, clothing, etc., etc.
And the dictatorship part is irrelevant then, since life is simply better. Not to mention that in many socialist countries there was democracy, even workplace democracy.
BladeRunner Exactly, let's do it.
won't work lads, democratic socialism is another excuse to establish an authoritarian state.
it'd be like letting hippies into the government, unless you have someone who isn't as simple minded as saying they'll pay for all these things, explain how you will fund these projects? how will this socialist system handle benefits? you all have different motives for this type of government, it is untrustworthy
"Guaranteed food" exists literally everywhere in the world.
It's not hard to have enough housing when 1/4 of your population has fled the country.
@@MrCmon113 you're braindead
So they traded a military OCCUPATION by USSR for a bigger military OCCUPATION by USA. Germany is a US colony.
Just like every capitalist country. All hail the American Empire
You are welcome
Yeah Because Germans are so great at choosing their own leadership. Every time they go unchecked they end up with dictators who destroy Europe with forced invasions and annexations.
My friend the USA is Israel's dog.
@@BB-kt5eb yes the only leaders of Germany have been hitler and Bismark.
"The GDR was more democratic, in the original and substantive sense of the word, than eastern Germany was before 1949 and than the former East Germany has become since the Berlin Wall was opened in 1989. It was also more democratic in this original sense than its neighbor, West Germany."
I'm trying to learn more about this. Do you have any sources I could read for it? Thanks!
No gdr was a dictatorship, they didnt allowed any other opinions and their secret police stasi had hundreds thousands of members and many relatives spied on each other you couldnt trust anyone so stop defend this evil leftist regime you left winger...
@@s66s46 Thing is that is not full story. People had a lot of participation in political life of state, at least up to the 1980.
@@aleksaradojicic8114 They starved in many years and gdr lost so much money in the end
@@s66s46 Again, not full story.
I wish these damn reporters would stop referring to the GDR government as a regime. Or we'll start calling the American government a regime.
But the DDR _was_ a regime in the classical/legitimate sense of the term!
The U.S. government is a regime.
US govt is a regime more than ever
The US goverment is actually a Regime.
Well the us gov doesn't kill people that try to leave the country do they?
I must admit ignorance, but why did so many people try to escape to the west than escape to the east if it was so good?
because it really did suck in east germany. i mean cmon they had to push their cars on highways to conserve gas.
@Hussein The Second Barbara Pit Enthusiast do you know anyone of them or are just an a$$hole?
@@gpedre21 Lmao, that's literally the most stupid claim I've ever read
I visited East Germany in 2007. I am Russian but Germans were really friendly to me. Dont know why? Confused... my guess is they miss good old days.
@Random I don't think they mentioned anything about easterners being better or friendlier than the west? They just said germans.
I have lived 4 years in East Berlin in mid eighties and studied at Humboldt University, and later moved to west and lıved on there until I leave Germany, those were great years of my life.
In the GDR everyone had work, everyone had enough money and today... today are too many germans poor.
Are u german ?
wrong germany got illegally annexed
It was part of germany
@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 Legally and culturally, no. West and East Germany were and are entirely different.
@@jakekaywell5972 only because of soviet imperialism
@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 The GDR was no more a Soviet territory than the FRG was an American one. Allies, but politically, economically, and culturally seperate.
Give a thumbs up if you miss the STASI
Lol
Didn't you hear what the man said, they wanted to keep the GOOD aspects of it, not all of it.
That’s not how real life works.
@@AB-ou8ve well yeah, that's what they call progress
@@AB-ou8ve that's exactly how it works. The US used to have slavery, it doesn't have slavery anymore yet it still exists.
@@hewhomustnotbenamed5912 And the White Supremacists that are around there mean they want to return it. One black man even approved slavery
@@hewhomustnotbenamed5912 The US still has slavery, read the 13th amendment.
again, in a communist system there is no state.
The "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" happens during the socialism phase-not communism.
Eventually, the state "withers away" in F. Engel's words, and the proletariat abolishes itself as a class leaving no classes at all.
see Lenin's "State and Revolution"
August Bebel "Society of the Future"
Robbin Banks wdym
@@mobilecyclop7329
It's basic communist theory. The phrase, 'communist state' is an oxymoron used by people who have no clue what communism is.
Oh GDR I love you so much ,I hope you come back soon
Communism is classified in the same way as Nazism, that is, it is an unconstitutional organization. Pledging allegiance to one can result in imprisonment in Germany. Carrying symbols like the hammer and sickle or the swastika can also get you jail time.
@@wokeeye6441 are you anti communism?
@@oskar1076 i have democratic tendencies.
@@wokeeye6441 ?yes or no
With or without totalitarian regime?
Ich vermisse the DDR!Bitte komm zurück!
Communist Consumer products are high quality. I have many electronics products from the Soviet Union and an East German Transistor Radio. They work. I am happy. I can see many hipsters who did not grow up in Communist countries, buying these products and enjoying them....They are good quality, products from a lost world. The West may think they are crap, and inferior to Western products, that they are cheap knock-offs. I assure you these products were anything but cheap to purchase in Communist countries. Consumerism in Communist countries, that contradiction tickles me the right way.
@HairOfTheDog2000 You mean thats what you were told about what communists believe? if you are going to spread lies, at least make them minimally believable.
How free are you under Capitalism if you can’t eat, find work, or afford an education?
Well you can.
You have more choice in food, you can actually work at what you want rather than what the party says and your education is informed by the best of what we know about reality rather than what's politically accepted.
The one country where you could go to the Olympics as a woman and years later mature into a strong strapping man !
___ Arch if you are referring to the doping scandal...check the headlines the US just had a London medal removed for the EXACT same reason but it didn't make the headlines like the GDR did for some reason..... Hmm I wonder what that is....
+Cody Chapman Because one was government mandated and the other is done by selfish individuals?
scarletrobin
Do you really think the US Olympic committee would not support an action like that behind closed doors? Do you really think the US (or any other country for that matter) is above doing that. You think the US hasn't put pressure on an athlete to do steroids and what not? Give me a break.
Cody Chapman Oy vey, here come the conspiracies. The GDR and USSR used the Olympics as a way to show the superiority of the communist lifestyle. That is why they cheated. The US has no reason to have a special doping program so why would they bother.
I know you think it's cute to idealize things which do not exist anymore and bemoan those that do, but there is a reason why those things went away in the first place
conspiracy theories??? WTF are you talking about.... I love how you are just putting words in my mouth.. If you don't think the US didn't see the Olympics as a place to compete with the USSR to show off the capitalist lifestyle then you are off your rocker. Give me a break with this garbage you are spewing.
DDR was not "communist"! It was socialist!!
What's the difference
@@LeanSaucer Communism entails a stateless, classless, moneyless society. Simply by virtue of the GDR being a state and having currency, it wasn't communist but socialist.
The world has never seen a Communist country. Only Bureaucratic countries.
idiot
@@qh5163 Replying to a 6 year old comment, that in many ways is factual? You're the idiot.
True, though. Under communism, there are no states, so a communist "state" can't and will never exist
Little did we know, that we will even miss to just miss east germany.
Now we miss to just have natives and security in our own country
The comments are surprisingly smart for once... Anyway, nice video, its nice to hear what the people whom were first concerned with East Germany think about it.
Comrade Jack Well, it was.
east Germany still exists today because Ernest thälmann island
@@haxario6560 That's wrong.
That island was not given to the East German State, but it was given a German name to represent the friendship between Cuba and
East Germany.
@Eszra Falcontail *FACTS!* I'm reading these comments and I'm like "are people really this dumb? & Blackness & blind? Wow 😳
read "Stasi State or Socialist Paradise?: The German Democratic Republic" for a history free of neo liberal shit
Neo-liberal, ie everyone, who doesn't roll over protesters with a tank.
@@MrCmon113 Neo-liberal ie everyone who thinks the way to build the best society possible is to squeeze the Third World dry by force and treat most of your own citizenry like they're disposable in the name of profit.
People is sooooo tired of the brutality of capitalism that leaves everyone at the market's mercy... that OFF COURSE they are going to miss the days when the government took care of them... it is not ideal. But humanity is at a turning point in which we will have to design a system that merges the best of both systems...
Now you got me intrigued, please elaborate.
East Germany was better
Avishek Mitra ,tumi ki east germany te chilae?
will the beautiful GDR/DDR return i pray every evenning for it will some day
Don't hold you're breath
+TheOffspringsRadio, why?
praying is not in the spirit of socialism
You might have got a better education
Kirill Meretskov
>"didn't work"
>existed for 80 years and was a global superpower.
Yeah, it totally didn't work.
Nothing wrong with communism, don't like capitalism, what I dislike is people being bullied and told how to live, that will ruin the way of life under communism or capitalism. What works best for the majority is a left wing democracy. We've gone a distance from that in the last 2 decades. I don't like to think of the eventual outcome if we keep on like this. Ruled by businesses. It was authoritarianism that failed, not communism.
That is what most people have a gripe with is the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Communism was never achieved unless it's a small village of like hippies or something, not a gigantic mass of land.
Communism idealizes left-wing democracy
@Robert L S Jr Capitalism has consolidated colonialism and "given birth to fascism, terrorism and apartheid and spread wars and conflicts, the breaches of sovereignty and self-determination of the peoples; repression of workers, minorities, refugees and migrants."
@Robert L S Jr The Dictatorship of the Proletariat. The definition of democracy in terms of class rule gives meaning to the concept 'the dictatorship of the proletariat.' It simply means rule by the proletarian class in its own interests instead of 'the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie' for its own interests. There always has to be class rule, therefore there is always dictatorship by one class or another. The concept has nothing to do with totalitarian government or indeed with any particular form of government. It is an analytical description of the basis of political decision-making in a society and it is wrong, therefore, to conceptualize the Soviet form of dictatorship as being similar to that practised by Hitler, Mussolini, Franco or Pinochet. Indeed, those dictators and bourgeois democracy had much in common for they served similar class interests.
@Robert L S Jr The primary contradiction in the world today is between United States imperialism and the rest of the world it seeks to dominate. As the political and economic crisis deepens the struggle for markets and spheres of influence becomes acute, so much so , that US imperialism, in its need to win the battle for markets and mineral, turns to war, and crude methods replace diplomacy and negotiations.
east germany better germany
Antimuslimfoundation 1 People are so nostalgic for a golden age that never existed
🅱est Germany
Antimuslimfoundation 1 East Germany Anthem is even better than any anthem on the world.
East germany best germany
Commie.
retrospectively its not reunification, its annexation. we have the same problem here, where the "losing" side felt disenfranchised and discriminated against by the "victors", which is true to a certain extent. reconciliation goes a long way.
Can i ask if the part of east germany is still doing goose step marches??
@Eszra Falcontail Since you claim you lived in the GDR, that means "freedom fighter parents" were Nazis or their collaborators... lmao
'most unpleasant aspects are beginning to be glossed over'. exactly the same, how the social damages of capitalism was being glossed over by Kohl's 'blooming landscape' propaganda.
the social history of the DDR wasn't all about the stasi, the schandmauer & the stubborn SED gerontocracy.
I think the wall wouldn't be to bad if they weren't literally killing people who wanted to go to the other side.
But if you don't kill them...you can't stop them. Do you see the paradox? If everyone who wanted to leave...did leave...East Germany would have quickly collapsed...which is why the wall was built in the first place. It was built to keep people in.
The fall of the Berlin Wall was the worst thing that ever happened .
And the dismantling of the glorious USSR.
@Megabutor Support for socialism crosses all borders.
@@qadwani4327 ecofascist spotted
Wouldn't call it "worst". It just wasnt done right. West Germans crushed Eastern way of life.
@Rich this is exactly what I was talking about. "Unification" of Germany was done wrong. West used Soviet weakness to do so.
@scrappmutt2 If you don't mind, how did everything work? was there competition and buisness, or everything state managed? Did people own their own shops, decide on their own what to do, how much to charge, who to deal with, etc? were people able to choose where to live or what kind of house to build, or were they all forced into apt.? Was everyone paid the same wage, and what of those who didn't want to work? Were you able to start your own buis? I know it's loaded ?, but id like to know
@kookykoala333 Don't forget the big thing: East Germany NEVER attacked anyone, never got involved in a war. How many countries can claim that?
In fact the GDR helped developing countries and sent doctors and specialists to assist the people.
I lived in GDR and I hatet every single day. Never I want these times back!
Now like a pig in s**t in the decadent West
I'd rather worry about finding something to eat than have to look over my shoulder all the time.
A popular lie, not even East Germans cared that much nor were the secret police as totalitarian as western MEDIA says they are.
You only say that because you don't have to worry about eating
This comment screams privilege
@@user-dq5rx7bv3x Um no, if you are suffering with food insecurity then that is not privilege
@@TheQueen-sw4th you didnt listen to what I said , I said, if you are not suffering with food insecurity, that doesn't mean you are privileged. But I guess it depends on what your definition of privilege is ? It sounds like yours is anyone living above abject poverty is privileged. And that is a very convenient definition for communists.
@@user-dq5rx7bv3x Um yes, when there are millions of people suffering with food insecurity (never said poverty) then it is quite a privilege to be able to be food secure. The commenter doesn't have to worry about starving and doesn't realize how awful it is. He has the privilege of not having to experience this stuff which many people do yet still believes he would pick starvation over authoritarianism. Someone who worries if their children will have food the next day wouldn't care if their food security came from an authoritative regime because that's the least of their problems. You completely missed the point of my comment. I'm privileged to have a roof over my head because half the people in my country don't. And I highly doubt those people will care about an authoritarian government if said government is providing the people with a stable lifestyle. Only someone who has never had to suffer with starvation can say that they would rather starve than be well fed in an authoritarian regime. They have never experienced it so they think they could be able to handle such living conditions and see themselves as strong because they'd rather this than stability under an authoritarian government. Not only is it wrong. They would much rather stability under authoritarianism than instability under whatever they believe to not be authoritarianism. They're also blatantly ignorant and are speaking in a place of luxury.
Where do you come from? Canada? Like you have slightest idea how fatal the collapse of the socialist states was. All the years the progressive movements in, be they ecological or peace minded, have got constant support. Only with the achivements of the GDR in the "neighbourhood" our workers got the good wages and social services they had. Now everything is being shortend and abolished. Germany is involved in war again, the third world is exploited like never before with no one to stop them.
DDR was a social state. It was better that BDR from many points of view. But nowaday Germany is a social state, too. As long as the schooling is free and the unemployment is small, it is a better state than USA or UK
Modern USA looks like hell on Earth actually.
how was it a dictatorship since literally ANYONE could become head of state?
yung bez ,Not!
You HAT to be braindead.
Are you?
you probably don't know anything about history, people in communism had jobs, imagine, in a factory producing steel, 50% played football while the rest worked, they all had the same wages.
Living off of Gov't. handouts does not make a country great. Its the work ethic of the people, their inventive minds, and the products they develop. The people who want to go back to the DDR days are the types that would produced 5 pairs of shoes a day, and expect to get paid the same amount as a worker who makes 50 pairs a day.West Germany made Mercedes, Audis, et.al. while the DDR made Trabants (w/a plastic body?). I was there and saw the new East Germany, It has come a long way since 1989.
I have historical evidence, too, but thats quite easy to postulate. Behind most of so called "facts" are class interests. Quite difficult to know its full truthfullness for sure. But if you understood Marxism and its scientific nature and looked on the topic out of an marxist, dialectical and materialist perspective you would know which side is right.
So you're saying socialist states had only 50% employment rate ?
'2. The Transition from Capitalism to Communism
Marx continued:
"Between capitalist and communist society lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat."
Marx cited by Lenin in "State and Revolution" (pub.1918)
Don't doubt things have been overblown but if east Germany was so great why did 4 million of them move to the west
Because They Love The Capitalism And Hate Communism But Both Are Bad To Me From N#$i Perspective
Because East Germany wasn't great.
GDR supported many poor countries in third world
east germany s not a regime
A place can't be that great if you have to force people to stay there.
If it was so pleasant, why were people trying to sneak out of East Germany at the cost of their lives and of the families that remained behind?
People should reread the accounts of the people who attempted (if they're still alive!) or who have succeeded in doing so.
More people have died fleeing US sponsored death squads in Central America, crossing the US-Mexico border.
Two German Generations had been created since the partition of Germany in 1949
Germany want to become commnist
I feel that after WWII, it was important to keep Germans down. These people started two world wars for God’s sake. I enjoy seeing the Germans under the heel of the Soviets.
But the Soviets went broke. Actually, the Soviets were never anything but broke. That occupation was never going to last.
East Germans aren't German the Russians can take them
@@eatpoopoo what is the Amis?
@@eatpoopoo that’s a nice copy and paste, thank you.
But you’re wrong. You’ll be under our heel for many many many years…..
@@eatpoopoo let’s meet back here in 7 years. Agree? We shall see who is right…
Any system that limits travel or movements is 100% Gestapo.
Think about it. If you have the right to travel because you can afford it you might ask yourself, why can't I go to the west. But today it's much more invisible. If you want to travel you need money and only if you have this money you can travel to places where it's cheap, because you can't afford more. Travelling isn't a right it is dependend on how much you earn. And don't tell me that people who work at lower paid jobs are lazy. They do much more for our society than Managers or Bankiers.
@@Ghreinos This has got nothing to do with East Germany. People in East Germany were not allowed to travel anymore not because of money issues but because of the brain drain that happened before 1961. And this is not unheard of. None of the communist countries people could travel for exactly the same reason: Any skilled labourer would never come back. Communism does not work!
@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart You dumb I travelled every holiday, because the socialist programs allowed that. Even for the ones, who weren't that rich. We couldn't travel to the west, but we could go to all eastern block countries. My children were on summer camps in Hungary (Budapest), even though me and my wife didn't have alot of money during this time, because we renovated our house. There was only one big Problem in a socialist country. The Country was basically the union and therefore you couldn't form any other Union and couldn't demonstrate.
@@Ghreinos ummm no. That's why they get paid minimum wage, because they actually contributed very little.
@@Crow44195 Without minimum wage employees, no fast food CEO's would exist. These workers are the people who actually make the commodity. Capitalism cannot exist without them.
As a Chinese I found East German might be the best place to live…now…
Unsre gute DDR!
Die war nicht Gut Meine Oma ist Von preußen geflohen und dann aus dem Osten in den Westen geflohen als sie von dem Osten verwante besuchen durfte blieb sie einfach im Westen
Ja ich wünsche sie mir auch zurück! Damit muss West-DE nicht mehr für euch einstecken
Bring back the DDR
TheEagle
It was so great they had to build a wall to keep them from escaping it.
Bring back the USSR also
@@BB-kt5eb liberals tend to not want to live in a state hostile to liberalism.
@Mrs.NopeWorthy you don't have any freedom anyway.
@@ledefenseurdelacommune807 man, what are you? Some kind of nazbol?
Interesting piece of news reel
Is it okay if I visit East Germany and wear a CCCP T-shirt? Will people despise me if I do that??
Depends on the ages of the people who see it, it may deeply offend those who were raised in east Germany during soviet rule.
@@smophie6260 Soviet rule? GDR was a independent Nation
@@TheySchlendrian apologies then, the ussr did have some influence in former east Germany though, should’ve said influence
@@TheySchlendrian lol
Just like Russia
Yeah they built a wall along the border because that place was such a utopia.
virtually overnight XDDDDD over 1000 dead trying to cross it. Must have been a wonderful place to live.
Hey, just like Trump's America.
When your neighbour wants to annex you a wall is sorta mandatory
I presume people imagined they would have it better in the west and tried to flee. But now people on hindsight realize it wasn't as bad as it seemed
Because the west tried to brainwash East German people
Trabi is no more but Pony is rising again as an electric car
It will require a PM,When I return I will write it to you.
The Red did win the WWII.
The Red Army saved the world from fascism.
Lel now, Ten years later the far right is on the rise. The Nostalgic Goggles already wore off and moved on to the other extreme
The successor to East Germany's ruling party is polling at 16%.
Funny how the tables have turned, to be honest i see them as somekind of a nazbol, it appeals to both left and right in some way
The far right exploited the frustrations of East Germans
If it wasn't a police state and it allowed more freedom of speech and let you leave like normal, the DDR could've worked well
North Korea haven't done any of that and it's still working.
freedom of speech is not extended to capitalists and fascists
Yes, well done, i agree completly.
If the GDR was so great them why did so many people die trying to escape, remember the celebrations when the wall came down
They didn't know that capatalism is so bad
Typical western capitalist TV channel, interviewing only those who said the gdr was bad. Typical misleading title of video, so they can tell those of us who are curious that 'its just nostalgia, nothing else'.
Well...there's a reason millions of people left the East. There's a reason it collapsed.
@@petebondurant58 and there's a reason many hold nostalgia for it to this day
@@techissus7449 They hold nostalgia, because they conveniently forget all of the bad elements. That is the same with all nostalgia. In the DDR in the 1950s and 1960s, people held nostalgia for the Third Reich.
The thing that you hear from some Germans that there is still is an invisible wall dates back from 1989 to 1990. Why? Well, when you have grown up with ideals and traditions and suddenly all that changes within a year its all too quick to fast. IN the GDR they had to sacrfice a lot of socialist services they provided for years for the free market system.In West Germany, you had to share the prosperous economy with the GDR.It was a lot of give and take, sacrifice, and the fear of the unknown.
@madskiIIz .....i agree to the idea back then that prices for a roof over your head should be kept down like it also should be for bread and food in general. a place to live shouldnt be expensive as everyone needs it anyway.. nobody can say "oh ok, i dont wanna pay the 900 bucks anymore because i cant afford it, so i just quit my contract, live on the streets and go from there to work every day.".... wonderful. and this is tragic and sad that they exploit the normal needs of everyone!!!!
I’m Canadian and I miss it!
Epic indeed!!!
I miss the good old days of pre-1990 West Germany.
'In such conditions the development of productive forces and the victorious course of the class struggle systematically prepare the transition to the swallowing up of the political functions of the state in administrative and economic functions, i.e. the transition to classless and stateless communist society. [2]'
from Wiki
there are many more such quotes
You can't separate people from where they grew up. The Stasi-themed bar is a little on the nose however.
I think every american mind is being blown that people under socialism are more happier and fulfilled in life.
@President Donald J Trump How about living in a massive Prison State like US? is that paradise mr president?
How about living in a country that behead you if you forget to show up on mosque like Saudi Arabia? is that paradise Mr president?
@President Donald J Trump I know you hate Math Mr president, but since when 2,3 million Prison population is lower than 1,7 million??
not to mention China+north korean combined have more total population than US
@President Donald J Trump you're just describing America
Low wages
High Prices and low quality of services
illusion of freedom of expressions
Two party system, both parties have the same agenda
@President Donald J Trump do you seriously believe trump is any different? They're all the same, fooling you into thinking that democracy works
@Paulo Chan ask jullian assange and edward snowden about freedom in US
The entire reason the GDR was successful was because of all of the states that propped it up.
and to add to my comment, i've seen a compariosn between the GDR and N. Koreas somewhere, apparently the former was much better off.
To my eyes, all this looks sick and decadent! The human soul is an abyss! In the beginning, people lived under a regime whose methods were reminiscent of Nazi Germany. For decades they fought and opposed this regime. Eventually they gained their freedom, and now we see them nostalgic for their old life again, claiming that back then, they lived better! Why they don't all move to North Korea???
Delusional
North Korea ditched Marxism in the 70’s for them to become a monarchy.
OP- go ask ppl who lived under communism!!
*The people in the video who miss their former home.
OP NO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬