The concept of if there are Apostles or Prophets today has been and will continually be a debate in the Church. While this is not a salvation issue but mainly a problem of theology I thought to share what I know from my desk as a never ending student of the bible and would rather consider myself a servant not fit to be listened to. But if you find my conversation meaningful, then glory to God. Comments will be opened after 2hours of sharing this video [ This will encourage my wonderful audience to listen first and take your time to give constructive rebuttals later ] Edited - NOW YOUR OPINIONS CAN COME IN TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION ✅ Every PAUSE AND TEXT is important so video is not too long. ✅
Hmmmmmm.....how I wish someone can simply tell us with all confidence what the Bible teaches about the subject. Opinions no matter how nice, deep it may sound could still be an error. What does the BIBLE say!!!!
@@maxwellawuah6738 The Bible says WHAT I HAVE READ TO YOU. Let the Bible explain itself. No one can lay any other foundation other than that which has been… but that foundation is JESUS HIMSELF 1 Corinthians 3:11 and it does not contradict Ephesians 2:20 if you read scriptures in CONTEXT.
@@BeingRealGeorge Well said George, however it is very easy to say let "let the Bible explain itself" but no where do we find in scripture where God says the word will explain itself to anyone. Why would we then be required to study and meditate the word to draw out truth?. Now the question is this "what is truth?" Is it what you're saying or what the other pastor over is saying. After all you're all reading from truth (Bible). Unless we know what truth is, everything is opinions and opinions lead men astray.
@@BeingRealGeorge Very true George...."Jesus is really the truth".....however Jesus being that does not explain whether Apostles or the other ministry callings are still in effect or not. We are the ones who are suppose to co labour with the Holy Spirit to be taught truth because he is the one responsible for delivering truth to us now not Jesus. If a man does not know how the Holy Spirit teaches and does not have the confidence to say this is what the Holy Spirit said about a matter and not able to prove it line upon line, precept upon precept..... everything that man is saying is being built on sand. George can you show from the Bible how the Holy Spirit teaches a believer? Don't you think God in His wisdom who gave us the HS to teach us will definitely show us clearly in scripture how He teaches so that we will not be in limbo wondering who is right or wrong on a certain matter in scriptures. Untill then everything is opinions and opinions lead men astray.
The problem is that instead of growing the believers , they instead create a barrier and perception that there are levels to getting close to God, yet we have all direct access. They are sometimes seen as people who hear on our behalf yet we should be in a relationship with Jesus and one with him. We are all children of God and there are no favourites.
The scholastic or academic approach to the the scripture is very much important if a believer must rid himself of the foolishness that stems from religious indoctrination which we term spirituality. Thank you very much, bro George for the amazing tonnes of labour you pour in here. The Lord is My Strength and My Salvation
I can’t say that of myself. I think I just know how to organize thoughts in a video to share what I think in controversial issues. lol. I used to work as school teacher if that’s what you mean lol.
@@BeingRealGeorge😂😂 you know exactly what I meant. I believe we have true apostles… not the charlatans, please. If only the people I believe are true apostles would take limit their teachings and preachings to the scriptures and not bring in their live experiences which we all know are clouded by our beliefs. Just like you rightly said, our witnessing should be based on what we received in the scriptures, not what our experiences (no matter how real we believe they are)and traditions and culture have taught us
I say tradition and culture because, why is it that some teachings that are based on the MOG’s experiences and what “God told them “ are restricted to this part of the world???
George... Stay consistent and more blessings upon you brotha, you're a force to be reckoned with and a necessity in the Kingdom. The violent taketh by force. But the wise build on Christ our true foundation. Dismantle da idols with grace!!!
The LORD is my strength and my salvation. Thanks BRG. God will continue to inspire you for teaching and enlightening us with the truth of the Gospel of the TRUTH of JESUS CHRIST. God bless you
I believe a better question would be: are the apostles today as apostles as the ones in the Bible? Do they sit at the same table? The answer will be a straight NO. Based on that we could argue that there are no more APOSTLES today. But if we define apostle as someone who is sent then in a sense every believer is an apostle.
You are right! In a sense, every single believer is an apostle because we are sent out on a mission to spread the gospel. But there's no Apostle in thesame sense as Peter and Paul. That was an office. They had Authority to write scripture an lay down the foundation of the Church. They were also all Jews. Remember Salvation is of the Jews(John 4:22). Those who are claiming to be Apostles today are fake. Either they do not know the bible or are intentionally lying to people. Arome says he is a continuation of the ministry of Paul. Self deception of the highest order! Basically he is laying another foundation. When Ephesians says the Apostles have already laid the foundation Arome, selman, Suleman comes and tries to build upon that foundation. That is why they do not believe the bible is enough for Christian living and give us stories of their ecounters.
Nope. Apostle is one sent BY directly by Jesus personally. Not those who read the mandate given to the 12. Every believer is not sent. Nobody knew about Paul's encounter until he said it. But his works prove his claim. The question is: is Jesus still sending people today just as He sent Paul in a vision or dreams? Remember how Jesus sent people as an apostle to the Gentiles in a vision? So, this video should be more about how to recognise real Apostles compared to people who just come out and say they are Apostles. People love titles but very few have been sent. But you have no right to tell someone he wasn't sent after he said Jesus sent him. But, by their works, we can know who is sent and who is not when we know the standards of an Apostle's ways or life.
Balanced Teaching and Investigative Knowledge., The Issue with present-day leadership is they carry the title rather than preach the gospel of Christ Jesus in truth
Kudos to you George. In my opinion this is the greatest expository video you have made in 2024. Full of scriptural authority over sentiments. God Almighty continue to bless you.
Great job BRG. your analysis was in-depth and precise. i was about to publish a video on why a woman can't be an apostle when I saw your video. More grace and anointing. However, there's some things that i don't agree with you, which i would clarify. 1. With regards to the calling of an apostle, the calling and commission comeS solely from God. No man or institution can make an individual to become an apostle. The call might vary in manifestation but the fundamentals that govern the commissioning is the same. The church or council of elders can only base their prophecy on the Word of the Holy Spirit. 2. As you rightly said, the context in which a scripture is written matters so as to arrive at an accurate interpretation. Apostle Paul went to Jerusalem to eliminate his doubts about the gospel he was preaching. This act shouldn't be turned into a doctrine that an apostle is needed to confirm another apostle's commissioning. By their fruits, we shall know them! They could be mentored by an Apostle or any of the gifts to the body. It's the calling that validates and verifies, not the approval of men! 3 .Apostle Timothy in the verse you quoted didn't receive the gift of apostleship or any ministerial gift by the laying on of hands, he received the gift of the Holy Spirit . That is what Apostle Paul was referring to. 1.Tim.4:14 and 2.Tim.1:6-7. 4. A woman can never be an apostle by divine order. Apostles are also members of the firstfruits and no woman is among them. I'll explain this in my video because its lengthy. 5. The appointment of matthias as an apostle was one of Peter's arrogant but sincere errors. They were waiting for the outpour of the Spirit who hadn't come upon them. He/They just brought two people forward they deemed fit for the role of an Apostle and told the Holy Spirit to choose between the 2 .When the Holy Spirit didn't answer, they resorted to casting lots. This isn't the way apostles are chosen. When Christ chose his apostles, he prayed all night and through the Holy Spirit called his Apostles unto himself. This process was an error and highlights how Christians need to be holistic in their approach to the scriptures and wholesomely reliant on the Holy Spirit as they WAIT PATIENTLY ON HIM for an answer to their petition. Aside from these, your exegesis is informative. Finally, many people focus on just the teaching aspect of an Apostle which is very crucial and integral to their calling as you stated-and that with regards to the doctrine of the person of Jesus Christ and not the heavenly kingdom principles which Jesus himself taught. This is another area where grace has been imparted unto the Apostle to have a comprehensive understanding of for the benefit of the body. He uses these teachings to establish as you mentioned, strengthen, and correct the body of Christ. Another duty of an apostle is to Pray. The ministry of prayer is essential and goes side by side with the teaching of the Word. Many who purport that Apostles are extinct dont factor in this ministry and the modalities that come with it so that the body knows how to relate with God in prayer and its other diversities. The apostles of nowadays can be known by their call, commissioning, signs and wonders, teaching on the king and his kingdom, their character which you mentioned-in humility and loads of perseverance and endurance. As you rightly said, we still have apostles in this day and age. They can even perform those signs and wonders of old that their counterparts through the Spirit performed. However, there's a price to pay to exercise authority of the Spirit at that level .Getting to such a status requires sacrifice and brokenness. Many of the genuine apostles of our age aren't broken enough to that level where God can commit such power into their hands. Many of them, character wise, are still work in progress despite being apostles. Remember, God calls men in their weaknesses, including Apostles. Many of their character flaws are still evident to all but that doesn't nullify their apostleship. keep up the good work BRG. God bless.
Well spoken Sir. Great information here. I'm learning a lot from here. I look forward to your video on point number 4 where you mention that " a woman can never be an Apostle by divine order..." I want to know how gender plays in here. Also, can you please come clearer on why you think that Aps. Peter made a sincere error by casting lots? Personally, I think that if Aps. Peter was wrong, then the Holy Spirit would have had an issue with the selection of Matthias. However, I see that the scripture affirms the "Apostleship" of Matthias in Acts 2:14 where it reads that, "...Peter standing up with the eleven...", acknowledging Matthias as an Apostle. This event happened after the lot was casted in Acts 1:20-26. My opinion though. Keep up with the good work Sir.
@samueldonkoh44 Thank you sir for your edifying comments. To GOD be the glory. You raised a very valid point here and sincerely speaking,I can't refute the fact that he was mentioned at this point among the 12 when the Holy Spirit arrived. Let's look at the school of thoughts concerning this matter. The criteria by which men chose an Apostle is absolutely different from he way the Holy Spirit chooses an individual. Like Samueel, they considered external factors but the Lord looks inward. (They put two forward). This statement from the onset has restricted the Holy Spirit from choosing whom He desires to replace Judas. If the process is wrong, the product would be wrong too. Apostles were chosen through the guidance and sole authority of the Holy Spirit. If what they did was validated, then men could be able to create and choose Apostles for themselves today. The jurisdiction of whom is given as a gift to the body depends on the calling of the Holy Spirit. Scripture, especially when doctrine is concerned doesn't contradict Scripture. If Jesus, through the Spirit appointed Apostles, then in this our dispensation where the Holy Spirit is Lord, Apostles are chosen by Him, through Him. The old practice of casting lots also can't be brought into this new dispensation where the Holy Spirit has absolute automy over the affairs of the Body. My thesis is based on how Jesus chose his Apostles and the consequences of men choosing Apostles for themselves without or restricting the Spirit's choices. From the narrators perspective, he recorded the account of Matthais standing up with the 12, but on retrospect, with the understanding God has given to us, having considered other factors holistically, I'll still humbly stand on what I posted, even though I can't scripturally annul the point you raised. It's a matter of reasoning and deciding which school of thought you'll go with. Will release a snippet later about female Apostles tommorow and the full video on whether Apostles exist in our age next week. Thanks again sir for your comments. God bless.
@@kofoolowe8071 Well noted. Thank you for the comments. Different schools of thought have been duly acknowledged. I pray that God will continue to enlighten us more about this matter in Jesus name Amen 🙏
George you went into the scriptures today and it was good. You exhausted my data and time but it was awesome. From the look of things you're An Apostle..😂😂😂😅.
Apostle simply means one whonis sent on a mission. I wonder why Nigerians or Africans are so crazy about names and titles. It's an office and one acts in the capacity. Ive never seen oyinbos call themselves Apostle here. The title is just a name. The office and work is the main thing. I love Pst Delvan and Sis Victoria by the way.
@@ZoeyBe I am very familiar with the west. Search the NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION (NAR movement) it’s a mess with goes on in that sect. From grave soaking and more
These days just ascend to strange unknown and un biblical dimensions and realms and boom, you're an apostle. Today's "apostles" go to heaven on a daily, interact with angels and the devil whenever, chill with Jesus anytime....... Very un biblical. But then again they are judgement for those that reject the truth.
Anyone saying there are no apostles today is simply saying we have no church today, and equally making God's word untrue. 1 Corinthians 12:28 says, "And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers..." That church mentioned there is still in existence today.
Thanks for your submissions on this subject. I must also compliment you for ever so often allowing us your viewers to be blessed by the God-given teaching grace that is clearly upon your life. Now to the meat or the subject matter that you raised: The scripture you referred to in Acts 1 was dealing with the “Apostles of Lamb” This is a special group of Apostles and the qualifications you read out deals with them. The 12 apostles of the lamb are eye witnesses of the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ. They are also mentioned in Rev. 21:14 as ones whose names would be on the 12 foundations of the New Jerusalem showing their specific roles. A careful study of the NT would show that there are other people called apostles at least 22 and arguably 24. Hence, apart from the 12 apostles of the lamb we have other foundational apostle’s which include Paul, Jude and James (who are the brothers of Jesus), Timothy, Titus, Apollos, Barnabas just to mention a few. These foundational apostles (the 12 apostles of the lamb and the others including Paul) are “credited” with laying the foundation for the church and being used to write the NT scriptures. The completion of the NT canon technically completes the work of these foundational apostles. However, this does not conclude or complete the functioning of apostles in the NT. Eph. 4:14 clearly show us the time span of NT apostolic ministry “…till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ” This clearly has not happened therefore apostolic ministry is still relevant today. However. there are no more foundational apostles because the canon of scripture is “closed”. Please note that the call to the ministry of an apostle is not necessarily the same as the timing of one’s release to function in the office. Studying Acts 13 shows that though Paul was called as an apostle he was not released to function in this office until later. Note that the Holy Spirit said separate onto me Barnabas and Paul to the work I CALLED (not calling) them to do. Hence, though they were called as apostles they were not functioning in this office until much later.
Take it as it is translated. Apostle is an envoy. So, all christians are apostles according to the great commission. All sent to preach but few execute the order. When you are on duty establishing churches and preaching the gospel, you are an apostle in your region.
Based on what you said, there's no need for the dramatic ordination of anyone for them to become apostle. But Christianity today involves a lot of showbiz anyway 🤷🏾♀️
Dear BRG, you divided the word well. Personally, I think the problem we have in the church (body of Christ) today is the problem of humility, character and people trying to get affirmation by title. The attitude of trying to lord things over their fellow believers and trying to use titles that can mis-understandably be easily equated to the special place the 12 Apostles of Christ and Apostle Paul (Apostle to the Gentiles) occupy and the authority exercised (that comes from the word they heard from Christ and which they passed down to us according to the canonized scriptures is what I think is driving the title (apostle) being given to themselves these days. A lot of these is being driving by their bellies and hero worship of our people, if not why can’t we just say we are missionaries out of humility or better still, why can’t we just call ourselves Bro and Sis? They have bastardized the title of prophet, they have bastardized the title of pastor, the next one they want to bastardize is the title of Apostle- May God help us. On a lighter note, from the little I know of you, I can “prophesy” that you will not allow them to give you the title of “Apostle BRG”. Hmmm. This is the level to which they have messed up these titles. Whatever they do, one thing is sure, The Lord is on the throne. It is well.
Dear George, well, well done. You are putting your finger on nerves needed to be poked in the body of Christ. I hope all true churches with apostles watch this and raise their standards as commanded by apostle Paul; expose and root out falsehood for this and future generations. I hope also that they see, if they wish that they are accountable to the body of Christ and are without excuse. Hebrews 13:7, 17. This is implicit and explicit. According to my understanding, their responsibility also is to birth Christ to maturity in all believers. Blessings.
Thank You for this truth... you have really taught today... and well put... lets just work on our salvation and create, grow enrich our personal relationships with Jesus... let no man deceive you... God loves every man equally... and if you devote yourself to him he will talk to you... let Christ be the Standard of Salvation.. not apostle, pastor, or bishop or anything... just Jesus... you and him...
An apostle is someone sent to teach a number of churches or certain group of people. There are apostles today an example of an apostle today is brother Gbile akanni, God sends him to different churches to teach discipleship, just as paul was sent to teach the law and grace. Pastoring or shepherding a church doesn't make one an apostle. The real apostles in our time do not carry the title they are doing the work, it is those not doing the work who seem to be obsessed over the title.
great insights as usual. the orenze intro is top notch. a cut away of a prophet saying they hear directly and also a video of an apostle saying prophets dont exist could have made it super too. then the videos of can i pro pro prophesy haha. Anyway am waiting for your video on the two faced person of ubert and his two faced presidential prophecies
🙌🏾🙌🏾 Well researched, George. It's through convos like this that we'll come to "the unity of the faith". I watched every bit. The Lord is my strength and salvation. Recently, I finally accepted that the office of the apostle is still functional. The argument that an apostle to the gentiles shouldn't be among the original 12, (and other points) are tenable. 👍🏾 👉🏾 But considering how God weaves gentiles into the scheme of His overall plan for salvation (e.g. genealogies), I still believe Paul is His replacement for Judas. To your question: are there still apostles today? YES SOME OF THE SIGNS? 1. Servanthood: 2 Cor. 4:5 NIV Apostles are SELFLESS. "For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake." 2. Breaking into NEW territories to plant CHRIST-centred churches. Romans 15:20 NKJV "And so I have made it my aim to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build on another man’s foundation," 3. Signs and wonders II Cor. 12:12 NKJV "Truly the signs of an apostle were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds." 4. Secure leadership. They EMPOWER the brethren for spiritual growth. They're not afraid of being surpassed. 👇🏾 Romans 1:11 NKJV "For I long to see you, that I may impart to you some spiritual gift, so that you may be established-" I Cor. 12:1 NKJV "Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be ignorant:" 5. Teamwork: they worked as partners, with checks and balances: no one-man show. 👇🏾 Acts 15:2 NKJV "...when Paul and Barnabas had no small...dispute with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain others... should go up to Jerusalem, to the apostles and elders, about this question." **Apostleship is a GIFT and CALLING. It's neither earned nor conferred like a chieftaincy title. No minister deserves worship. We're ALL BRETHREN. **I don't totally agree with your 'when' Paul 'became' an apostle, but no prob. It's a matter of opinion, I guess. 🙂 We'll keep studying and learning.
We keep learning. The when Paul became an apostle I mean is when he was RECOGNIZED BY WITNESSES. But note he was called to the Gentiles from his mother’s womb. You can be called but a community witnesses that.
I have an uncle that I can say did all this. Granted I can't prove the miraculous aspect but we talked at length when I was growing up and he never said anything about that aspect of his ministry. When I wanted to leave his house and go for a program in another church as a minor, he refused and just stuck to the Bible for his talking points. His ministry has been doing steady outreach focused on riverine areas in the South South and I've experienced it once. The church in Port Harcourt is very small when you consider that he's in his 70s and has been in ministry for a very long time (40 years I think). He doesn't believe in gathering more than you need and becoming rich. With his credentials, he should at least have retired as a high level staff (management) in an oil company and should be abroad with his family living a more comfortable life, but God had other plans. When he was warning me about pastors that glorify themselves and are busy getting rich, I didn't listen . But now I have to ask myself why a Christian is gathering properties when Yeshua literally said sell all and follow me 🤦🏾♀️ meanwhile they are people in the lowest level of poverty in the same church 😮😮 how? I thought Uncle was bitter but he was just trying to tell me the truth. He's not a rich man but he's trained 5 children to the university level, one is a doctor that studied in Ukraine.
I pity you rather, when you call his prayers empty words. Let me ask you this simple question. If all your words are quoted from the Bible without your faith in place will it work? Go back and learn about faith before you condemn
@@jarizi107you are tell me is because of faith you guys are doing what was not written in the bible. Please read you bible with understanding. What they are doing is not written in the bible but God say do according to my word. Oga repent. Not everybody who call my name we see me on the last day. Make una dey deceive unaself
We are not restricted to their experiences. We are guided by the commands and instructions of God already revealed. But we have liberty to be encountered by God or by the instructions of God.
There are no more apostles who hold the "office" of an apostle today because there are criteria to being an apostle and those who call themselves apostles(as to holding the office of an apostle) today do not meet any of those criteria. An apostle had to be chosen by Christ Himself or walked with Christ, an apostle had to have done signs and wonders among many other criteria, and Paul was chosen by Christ Himself, and did miracles too. I don't see why there would be so many so called "apostles" today when they clearly do not meet the criteria and scripture clearly states that not all can be apostles 1cor 12:29.
Clearly not all can be Apostles and are all Apostles? …. In your second paragraph explain the Apostleship of Silas, Timothy or James that was not even part of the 12 but wrote part of the New Testament. I would love to learn from you.
We are all Apostles, prophets, preacher's, evangelists and teachers, "you name it". We all have the Spirit of Christ that embodies all the gifts of the spirit. I understand what you mean, George. We are all brothers. I don't think Paul, Peter, Barnabus being named Apostles was a title in the Church "body of Christ" but rather a work. Like how Goorge says he is a servant. As leaders and children of God and every one who follows Christ, we are all servants serving in the father's house. I also don't see anything wrong with people labelling themselves this titles as long as it doesn't derail me from following Christ. I enjoyed this Video. Thank you . May Christ guide you and be blessed brother.❤
@@Christpower7 We are NOT all apostles, prophets, preachers, evangelists and preachers. The bible doesn't say that. Eventhough the Holy Spirit in us embodies all the spiritual gifts, He(the Holy Spirit) does not just give it out to everyone and anyone, He gives the gifts as He wills, 1cor 12:11. If it is true that we are all apostles, prophets, preachers, evangelists and preachers just because we have the Holy Spirit that embodies all, then the scripture that says we are not would be a lie(1cor 12:29-30). Anyone labelling themselves as apostle without meeting any of the criteria really matters, they need to be considered and examined as to how they got their apostleship, it can be deceptive and boastful, hence why Paul admonish those who desire to be regarded as such but are not and he called them deceitful workers(2cor 11:12-15).
There is a woman mentioned in the Bible who is identified as an apostle-Junia. Biblical Reference: • Romans 16:7 (NIV): “Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was.” Paul refers to Junia and Andronicus as “outstanding among the apostles”, suggesting that Junia was recognized as an apostle and held in high regard. The term apostle here signifies a messenger or one sent out to spread the Gospel.
Romans 16:7 NLT - Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews, who were in prison with me. They are highly respected among the apostles and became followers of Christ before I did. The Apostles held them in high regards, not because they were Apostles, but most likely because of their commitment to Jesus and the work of building the early church.
My brother, simply put, an apostle today is an evangelist. There are three main offices in which the headship of the body of believers wherein they who are gifted operate from: the prophetic, the ministry, and exhortation. These offices are the apostle, the prophet, and the pastors. The prophetic office is one, the gift of ministry is two: being apostles and evangelists for the evangelists are indeed apostles. And then the pastors who are indeed teachers. The prophets have the prophetic gift of prophecy, the apostles of the gift of ministry, and the pastors having the gifts of exhortation. Shalom!
BRG you mentioned Silas and Timothy as apostles based on the letters to the Thessalonians, but in those letters one cannot see any evidence of them being apostles, or was it because of writing letters? Even those letters if you read the end you will notice that it was Paul who wrote them, ie , dictated for someone to write. However, there are apostles Paul mentioned, someone like Barnabas and the ones you mentioned Andronicus and Junia (a woman). Nonetheless, AO put his own criteria of a modern day apostle, that is, Jesus has to appear to you ( is it in the scriptures?), that's why we have a plethora of apostles from nowhere, just because they fasted for 100 days and someone calling himself Jesus (which could also be a demon) appeared and commissioned them; they run with the title. What they forget is that, spiritual activity doesn't make you immune to deception. You are right, one has to be already teaching (doctrinaly sound) before he becomes an apostle (if it is necessary). I am curious though, what about the prophets?
@@belovedflorence4109 one day we will talk about the prophets. Silas I took time to write on him ( there are texts on screen Pause and read my dear ) , even Timothy too. That’s why I said - WHO ARE THE WE? -
Without mixing words What you are doing with your channel is simply responding to the Teaching grace upon your life What you're simply doing is rightly dividing the words of truth Teaching to bring understanding and balance Well-done sir...this is a dimension of the teaching office in manifestation I'll want to see more on other offices
If I understand your basic issue of concern: "conjecturing as to whether or not there are apostles today" your argument is based on a set of tiers. There is i) the ethnicity tier that focuses on religious and culturally specific characteristics that separate groups (the 12 Jewish (Jerusalem based) apostles of Jesus fell into this subset); Paul's mission to the gentiles also made him a part of this ethnicity subset. ii) the vernacular category is drawn from the verb apostello which would cover the whole architecture of discipleship. Finally, there are those who were iii) affiliates of the main characters (as in Paul and Barnabas), where the main-character-role was identified by the character being mentioned first. It would seem to me that on vernacular grounds primarily, the term still has relevance. However, my contention lies with the antipathy to orthodoxy that attends the present dispensational use. I am suggesting that within the immediate context - in addition to those who may benignly employ the term - there are those who see it as a means of disidentifying (acrimoniously) from some nurturing body, of which they were part. The latter, especially on (In Christ Pauline ecumenical) grounds, raises questions about their authenticity (Ephesians 4: 3-13)
As much as I agree with almost everything that you've said, I don't agree that we still have genuine Apostles or and Prophets. I'll like to know any if there are. Thank you
I think you are holding on to wrong doctrines. Read the bible with an open heart and let the Holy Spirit lead you. There are prophets and Apostles today but they might not be the ones at the forefront as they claim.
We still have apostles today, cos the bible says this signs shall follow them who believe.. I will recommend this true bible base apostles you if you don't mind.. pastor Gino jennings.. of the truth of God inc!
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We are reading the ACTS OF THE APOSTLES. “Apostles of the Lamb” . Discipleship for learning. Apostles when sent forth to continue…. Timeline ( I always say )
There are no apostles(the office) today because the ones parading themselves as apostles today do not meet any of the criteria of an apostle. Probably you can change my mind by showing me anyone who meets the criteria today.
@@Al-pc9dx There are a bunch stated in the scriptures, some of them are: Seeing the resurrected Christ(1cor 9:1)...Walking with Christ when He was on earth(Acts 1:21,22)...being able to perform signs and wonders(2cor 12:12)...chosen to suffer for Christ(Acts 9:15-16; 1cor 4:9)...chosen and sent by Christ Himself(Lk 6:13; Acts 9:15; Rom 1:1)
Jesus Christ Himself chose His disciples as seen in the scriptures. As per Matthias, he was chosen per the slot picking based on rules. But from the concept of Scriptures, I believe the person who was actually truly chosen by Jesus Christ to replace Judas Iscariot as the 12th disciple was Apostle Paul. I stand to be corrected please as a Word Bible student and a student of the Spirit of Christ. Thank you.
I am still watching the video though.😊 Good afternoon Mr George. How are you doing sir? Been seeing and watching your videos relative to the Elon Musk issue. Plus thank you for acknowledging the person who reminded you about the Kenneth Hagin teachings again too. I smiled to myself when I heard you mention it; Blessing Osasenaga Agbonavbare used to be my UA-cam name before I changed it to this recent one. Thank you. Well done sir.
The solution to this problem is that every follower of Christ needs to pick up their bible and read it for themselves otherwise the extent of deception will only grow deeper. The point is that, the bible should be our primary guide to form a personal relationship with God. Just like satan will never repent, some of these self proclaimed teachers have been cornered and may never repent. Apostle Paul once said, follow me as I follow Christ. If you test the 'spirits' of some of these men of God, they are clearly not of God. Heb 11:6, God is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. Believers need to stop diligently seeking these men of God.
Christ is the head of the Church and sets some to be Apostles, Prophets, Teachers..... (1 Corinthians 12:28). Now how does He do this? He can direct other seasoned Ministers to ordain someone into that office as we see in Acts 13:2. Please notice that this meeting was in the church at Antioch and in that Church were PROPHETS and TEACHERS. This Church had other leaders occupying other offices as described in 1 Corinthians 12:28. What was Paul called to do? He was called to the office of an APOSTLE and sent to THE GENTILES as he (Paul) affirms in Romans 11:13 and Galatians 2:8. Please notice that Paul already had an encounter with the Lord Jesus in Acts 9 and began testifying to the truth that Jesus is the Christ immediately after his conversion. But that did not place him in the office of an Apostle. So, there is scriptural precedence that the Holy Spirit can minister to other people Christ has placed into these offices in His body to ordain someone into a particular office. Now the issue is not the laying on of hands and ordaining a person into that office as far as I am concerned. The issue is do you see the signs of an Apostle following this person/individual's ministry? In 2 Corinthians 12:12 Paul says that the 'signs of an Apostle' was wrought amongst the Corinthians as he went about fulfilling his ministry (the work he was called to do). I know a lot of people don't like hearing about signs and wonders, especially given the way this has been abused and misunderstood. But, an Apostolic ministry will be validated with signs and wonders (occurrences that are beyond human explanation) which are all meant to bring glory to the one who called that person into that office - JESUS CHRIST. If someone calls himself/herself an Apostle what then should you consider? (a) Is his/her character consistent with the character required of someone occupying a spiritual office - 1 Tim 3-12; (b) Does he/she know who he/she has been sent to? (c) Are the signs of an Apostle evident in this person's ministry?
Apostles are ‘ sent ones’ the role is missionaries in modern day terms . If you look at church history you will see since 1800s there was huge missions to the world. I believe in the 5 fold ministries ( which is separate to the Spiritual Gifts) and they still operate but under different names today. Ephesians 4:11 Apostle-‘ shaliach ‘ “ Sent one”=Missionary Prophet- ‘ navi.’ “ Seer” to proclaim = Bible Prophecy Teacher Teacher-‘ Moriah’ “one who is able to impart truth and wisdom for life” = Bible Teacher Pastor-‘ ra'ah’ “ the shepherd “ = leads, cares for the flock= local church leader Evangelist-‘ basar’ “ to evangelise, “ bearer of good news” aka The Gospel . = Gospel preacher Within these roles , they should operate in the gifts of the Spirit , as all Christians should do . 1Corinthians 12 The nine gifts of the Spirit are a word of wisdom, word of knowledge, discerning of spirits, faith, miracles, healing, tongues, interpretation, and prophecy.
@@AaronAmaah I usually don’t answer this question. Bro Gbile Akani I can give my ears to but again be diligent in study and walk with God too. There are many wonderful churches but no perfect denomination. Growth is constant.
This is for those of you calling George anti Christ. Let this video be a reminder to y’all that George is not only smart but he’s more theologically sound than you all combined. Peace ✌️ Thank You George for all you do. God bless you!!
Personally, my understanding of the verse in Ephesians doesn't allow for Modern day apostles and I'm not a ceasationist. The problem for you might starts when we begin to define our terms
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Christians be kind and generous it is the Apostles that install or planted churches all over the world,many Christians today are selfish they don't want to ordained Apostles are very needed,they plant church,birth gifts of God people and supervise God churches,,this year 2024 God is ordaining prophets,bishops and Apostles, 1 cor 12,l love you very much from. God true servant Marie
One of the Main Criteria of the Apostolic Office is That One must have SEEN THE LORD JESUS, Sit is from the ENCOUNTER that he Tell you YOUR OFFICE. This doesn't mean that everyone who has seen JESUS is an APOSTLE, but It is one of THE Criterions, thats why all through the SCRIPTURES all who Was Tagged AN APOSTLE SAW JESUS...but its so sad today its a Thing of ORDINATION. After receiving SUCH A CALL From an Encounter the BODY has to Verify through The SPIRIT of you are truly an APOSTLE.
@@ruth_adewole_o There are Explicit and Non Explicit Statement from Scrioture, its simple Showvme anyone who was an Apostle that didn't see the messiah.. Paul was Calledvtovbe an Apostle to the Gentiles that was why he had to Encounter JESUS...Remember the disciples had casted lot for the replacement of Judas so therevqas no need for another Apostolic Office if itvwas just about 12 MEN, but because thats part of the Criterions And Paul Needed to Receive a Revelation directly.. An Apostolic call Reveives instruction from Jesus himself, Because he is a Pace Setter in the Kingdom. Read The whole Acts of the APOSTLES
The gifts God gave to the church Apostles, prophets, evangelist, pastors and teachers have their different roles. The teaching that the apostolic office has ceased does not in anyway contradic the truth that God gave these gifts to the church. The Apostles and prophets laid down the teachings of and doctrines for the church, while the other ministries carry on the work. Discuss
@BeingRealGeorge Paul saw the resurrected christ..unless you are saying Paul was lying..yes eyes witnesses he was travelling with his troops to Damascus, secondly the man that opened his eyes that Jesus told Paul was coming to met him ..look at what paul said in 1cor 15:8...1cor 9:1 So what are you talking? Was Paul lying? My answer is capital NO
@BeingRealGeorge (1 Corinthians 15:8 and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.) This is not vision or dreaming..me and you know that after Jesus resurrected, for 40 days , he kept on appearing to people
So with this 1 cor 15:8 which of these fake Nigerians apostles you are defending..not only that which of the Nigerians apostles is living the life of an apostle? Even the word of God is a stumbling block to them
@ No one said he is lying. I literally showed that in the video . Is there a difference between the appearance of Jesus to the apostles after the resurrection and his appearance to Paul? YES. Imagine anyone who claims to see Jesus today { except you don’t believe them} I won’t say I have seen an apparition of Jesus myself. Won’t you say they saw the resurrected Christ? The cessation theology believes that no one has seen Jesus after his resurrection till he returns again…. The time Jesus was seen by the Apostles was not the same as Paul and certainly not the same manner. That’s the point. Paul did not see Jesus the same way others did.
Nice exegesis welldone sir but i have a question...the Catholic church how do they choose these fivefold Ministers or don't they accept it Is every one just a priest in thier own order There is no office if the rev fr in the bible and there are no orders So how fo they reconcile the fivefold ministry with the priesthood and the different orders I hope my question is clear enough and I believe you understand what i mean by "orders" as an ex seminarian Thank you
That’s a different whole topic entirely and one day I will discuss it but that means we will go deep into church history and the eastern othordox leading to the great schism. While I respect every denomination I understand the Protestants or Lutherans “sola scriptora” is what I am basing this video on. But in the Catholic Church we then talk about CHURCH TRADITIONs that can have same authority as scripture. I will get a lot of heat when finally speak on this things but it will take time before I discuss it. For now the focus should be on Jesus.
Thanks for your work bro. But my question has always been if an apostle is not establishing doctrine, then what is the unique function of an apostle. Another way to ask is this, what does an apostle do today that's different from what the rest of four-fold office does. I'd love to hear your opinion
@@FoundingTruthNetwork the Apostles today cannot establish a revelation as a pattern of doctrine OUTSIDE the scriptures like I stated . EVERY DOCTRINE CAN BE TRACED TO THE REVELATION OF SCRIPTURE ( the written word we witness from ) . Nothing is new under the sun. I have not discussed of the other folds so I can’t just write few words to risk being misunderstood. I like to talk with facts. And normally I don’t do this kind of videos except the need for such conversations be. My videos are born out of controversies . The folds served the same PURPOSE of equipping the saints but their pattern of operation is unique. Rather than focus on what makes one different from the other, the Apostles and Prophets and leaders in the early church never cared much about titles but were more humble in how they carry themselves unlike the scribes and Pharisees of Jesus’s day. They would be called brothers, servants, bond servants etc… how you function is tied to your calling but the gift of God empowers the called. Personally I think titles are just fancy and not as important as the purpose we serve to take the gospel to the ends of the earth as servants of God who has no favorites.
we, africans are not even gentiles geographically speaking. There are various mentions and references showing that africans existed even in bible days.
The truth is anyone can choose whatever title they want to feed their ego with. After the twelve Apostles in the history of the Church, those who carried Christianity for 2000 years never gave themselves the title of apostles. Even the ones that were ordained by St. Peter and St. Paul and all those who worked with them and also took over from them were never called Apostles. Then 2,500 years later , we are suddenly having apostles from every corner. Who ordained them and who ordained the ones that ordained them can the line be traced to apostolic succession? Of course they're Apostles to the unlearned protestants, and not to those with the understanding of what the word of God is saying. Everyone should go and read Church history, it will save you from alot of these confusions.
We still got apostles till date, if jesus chose 12 apostles + the other 2 :barnabas and paul, then how could they have preach this gospel to the whole world.. this sign shall follow them whi believe in my name.. go he into the world and preach the gospel to all creation...Jesus never tookt them away
Brother, it is sad to see how the church is blatantly walking away from her master Jesus christ, where in the Bible you have a female apostle, this particular one with braided hair! The devil authored this confusion but we sometimes have left him baffled at the rate of seriousness we took his deceit for the truth
The Bible is clear on this my dear …. Set apart and sent out. Paul moved, Silas moved, James moved … their witness is with us today as scripture moving. That’s why I said they could be of influence in one place
Are there apostles today in the likeness of the apostles of the early church? Evidently NO. The fact that we are having this debate is proof that there are no apostles. And besides that argument, the history of the church shows clearly that the early church fathers themselves never claimed apostleship. Polycap, a personal student of John, were merely teachers, Timothy, Areneus, Ignatius, and many more. The claim of apostleship appears to have started with pentecostal teachings.
Hi George, i don't know if you've done a detailed video about the bible not being the word of God and Paul contradicts Jesus. As I hear some "men of God" propagating. I just feel terrible when i see these secular attacks on Christianity being adopted by people who profess with their tongues to be followers of Christ. I will wish to know what your conviction is.
All i will say is, the devil was raised in a holy place, most people think he will be more active in a witch hut nope he resides in churches most Christians carry him without knowing, let's not forget he knows the scripture too well. I am not saying i know too much o infact what do i know.
1 Corinthians 12:28 says, "And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers..." If there are no apostles today, then there's no church today, right? The devil finds it easy to deceive the gullible who have no knowledge of the scriptures.
The concept of if there are Apostles or Prophets today has been and will continually be a debate in the Church. While this is not a salvation issue but mainly a problem of theology I thought to share what I know from my desk as a never ending student of the bible and would rather consider myself a servant not fit to be listened to. But if you find my conversation meaningful, then glory to God. Comments will be opened after 2hours of sharing this video [ This will encourage my wonderful audience to listen first and take your time to give constructive rebuttals later ]
Edited - NOW YOUR OPINIONS CAN COME IN TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION ✅
Every PAUSE AND TEXT is important so video is not too long. ✅
Hmmmmmm.....how I wish someone can simply tell us with all confidence what the Bible teaches about the subject. Opinions no matter how nice, deep it may sound could still be an error. What does the BIBLE say!!!!
@@maxwellawuah6738 The Bible says WHAT I HAVE READ TO YOU. Let the Bible explain itself. No one can lay any other foundation other than that which has been… but that foundation is JESUS HIMSELF 1 Corinthians 3:11 and it does not contradict Ephesians 2:20 if you read scriptures in CONTEXT.
@@BeingRealGeorge Well said George, however it is very easy to say let "let the Bible explain itself" but no where do we find in scripture where God says the word will explain itself to anyone. Why would we then be required to study and meditate the word to draw out truth?. Now the question is this "what is truth?" Is it what you're saying or what the other pastor over is saying. After all you're all reading from truth (Bible). Unless we know what truth is, everything is opinions and opinions lead men astray.
@ JESUS IS THE TRUTH.
@@BeingRealGeorge Very true George...."Jesus is really the truth".....however Jesus being that does not explain whether Apostles or the other ministry callings are still in effect or not. We are the ones who are suppose to co labour with the Holy Spirit to be taught truth because he is the one responsible for delivering truth to us now not Jesus. If a man does not know how the Holy Spirit teaches and does not have the confidence to say this is what the Holy Spirit said about a matter and not able to prove it line upon line, precept upon precept..... everything that man is saying is being built on sand.
George can you show from the Bible how the Holy Spirit teaches a believer?
Don't you think God in His wisdom who gave us the HS to teach us will definitely show us clearly in scripture how He teaches so that we will not be in limbo wondering who is right or wrong on a certain matter in scriptures.
Untill then everything is opinions and opinions lead men astray.
The problem is that instead of growing the believers , they instead create a barrier and perception that there are levels to getting close to God, yet we have all direct access. They are sometimes seen as people who hear on our behalf yet we should be in a relationship with Jesus and one with him. We are all children of God and there are no favourites.
@@dalightmaiso1553 no favorites indeed
Amen
Well put.❤
Thank you.
My people perish for lack of knowledge. What a mess they have become. Self appointed apostles who have no understanding of the word of God.
The scholastic or academic approach to the the scripture is very much important if a believer must rid himself of the foolishness that stems from religious indoctrination which we term spirituality.
Thank you very much, bro George for the amazing tonnes of labour you pour in here.
The Lord is My Strength and My Salvation
George, you are deep, very very deep. You are a gift to the Body of Christ.
The Lord is my strength and salvation… first time commenting here. George what you are expressing here is the Teaching gift oo. I am enlightened.
I can’t say that of myself. I think I just know how to organize thoughts in a video to share what I think in controversial issues. lol. I used to work as school teacher if that’s what you mean lol.
@@BeingRealGeorge😂😂 you know exactly what I meant. I believe we have true apostles… not the charlatans, please. If only the people I believe are true apostles would take limit their teachings and preachings to the scriptures and not bring in their live experiences which we all know are clouded by our beliefs. Just like you rightly said, our witnessing should be based on what we received in the scriptures, not what our experiences (no matter how real we believe they are)and traditions and culture have taught us
I say tradition and culture because, why is it that some teachings that are based on the MOG’s experiences and what “God told them “ are restricted to this part of the world???
@@AdebolaChantalOwoniyiYou’re completely correct
At this point, pray for the body of Christ and work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
George... Stay consistent and more blessings upon you brotha, you're a force to be reckoned with and a necessity in the Kingdom. The violent taketh by force. But the wise build on Christ our true foundation. Dismantle da idols with grace!!!
The LORD is my strength and my salvation. Thanks BRG. God will continue to inspire you for teaching and enlightening us with the truth of the Gospel of the TRUTH of JESUS CHRIST. God bless you
I believe a better question would be: are the apostles today as apostles as the ones in the Bible? Do they sit at the same table? The answer will be a straight NO. Based on that we could argue that there are no more APOSTLES today. But if we define apostle as someone who is sent then in a sense every believer is an apostle.
Agreeable
Thank you.
There are no apostles today because the ones that parade themselves as apostles today do not meet any of the criteria.
You are right! In a sense, every single believer is an apostle because we are sent out on a mission to spread the gospel.
But there's no Apostle in thesame sense as Peter and Paul. That was an office. They had Authority to write scripture an lay down the foundation of the Church. They were also all Jews. Remember Salvation is of the Jews(John 4:22).
Those who are claiming to be Apostles today are fake. Either they do not know the bible or are intentionally lying to people. Arome says he is a continuation of the ministry of Paul. Self deception of the highest order! Basically he is laying another foundation. When Ephesians says the Apostles have already laid the foundation Arome, selman, Suleman comes and tries to build upon that foundation. That is why they do not believe the bible is enough for Christian living and give us stories of their ecounters.
Nope. Apostle is one sent BY directly by Jesus personally. Not those who read the mandate given to the 12. Every believer is not sent. Nobody knew about Paul's encounter until he said it. But his works prove his claim. The question is: is Jesus still sending people today just as He sent Paul in a vision or dreams? Remember how Jesus sent people as an apostle to the Gentiles in a vision?
So, this video should be more about how to recognise real Apostles compared to people who just come out and say they are Apostles. People love titles but very few have been sent. But you have no right to tell someone he wasn't sent after he said Jesus sent him. But, by their works, we can know who is sent and who is not when we know the standards of an Apostle's ways or life.
Balanced Teaching and Investigative Knowledge., The Issue with present-day leadership is they carry the title rather than preach the gospel of Christ Jesus in truth
Kudos to you George. In my opinion this is the greatest expository video you have made in 2024. Full of scriptural authority over sentiments. God Almighty continue to bless you.
The Lord is my strength and my salvation! Good exposition, George.
My brother George operating in the office of a teacher. God is taking you somewhere. God bless you real good. Keep shining on every side bro.
@@faithokpedo4120 ahh! Abeg . I am just a student ooo. E no reach like that
You are becoming a good student of Dr. Damina. Contextual exegesis dissection 😂😂😂😂. Love what you do bro. No biased, facts over sentiments ❤
I Love when you do Teaching and Readon/ Going through the scripture ❤ I could work and listen for hours ! God bless !
Great job BRG. your analysis was in-depth and precise. i was about to publish a video on why a woman can't be an apostle when I saw your video. More grace and anointing.
However, there's some things that i don't agree with you, which i would clarify.
1. With regards to the calling of an apostle, the calling and commission comeS solely from God. No man or institution can make an individual to become an apostle. The call might vary in manifestation but the fundamentals that govern the commissioning is the same. The church or council of elders can only base their prophecy on the Word of the Holy Spirit.
2. As you rightly said, the context in which a scripture is written matters so as to arrive at an accurate interpretation. Apostle Paul went to Jerusalem to eliminate his doubts about the gospel he was preaching. This act shouldn't be turned into a doctrine that an apostle is needed to confirm another apostle's commissioning. By their fruits, we shall know them! They could be mentored by an Apostle or any of the gifts to the body. It's the calling that validates and verifies, not the approval of men!
3 .Apostle Timothy in the verse you quoted didn't receive the gift of apostleship or any ministerial gift by the laying on of hands, he received the gift of the Holy Spirit . That is what Apostle Paul was referring to. 1.Tim.4:14 and 2.Tim.1:6-7.
4. A woman can never be an apostle by divine order. Apostles are also members of the firstfruits and no woman is among them. I'll explain this in my video because its lengthy.
5. The appointment of matthias as an apostle was one of Peter's arrogant but sincere errors. They were waiting for the outpour of the Spirit who hadn't come upon them. He/They just brought two people forward they deemed fit for the role of an Apostle and told the Holy Spirit to choose between the 2 .When the Holy Spirit didn't answer, they resorted to casting lots. This isn't the way apostles are chosen. When Christ chose his apostles, he prayed all night and through the Holy Spirit called his Apostles unto himself. This process was an error and highlights how Christians need to be holistic in their approach to the scriptures and wholesomely reliant on the Holy Spirit as they WAIT PATIENTLY ON HIM for an answer to their petition.
Aside from these, your exegesis is informative. Finally, many people focus on just the teaching aspect of an Apostle which is very crucial and integral to their calling as you stated-and that with regards to the doctrine of the person of Jesus Christ and not the heavenly kingdom principles which Jesus himself taught. This is another area where grace has been imparted unto the Apostle to have a comprehensive understanding of for the benefit of the body. He uses these teachings to establish as you mentioned, strengthen, and correct the body of Christ.
Another duty of an apostle is to Pray. The ministry of prayer is essential and goes side by side with the teaching of the Word. Many who purport that Apostles are extinct dont factor in this ministry and the modalities that come with it so that the body knows how to relate with God in prayer and its other diversities.
The apostles of nowadays can be known by their call, commissioning, signs and wonders, teaching on the king and his kingdom, their character which you mentioned-in humility and loads of perseverance and endurance.
As you rightly said, we still have apostles in this day and age. They can even perform those signs and wonders of old that their counterparts through the Spirit performed. However, there's a price to pay to exercise authority of the Spirit at that level .Getting to such a status requires sacrifice and brokenness.
Many of the genuine apostles of our age aren't broken enough to that level where God can commit such power into their hands. Many of them, character wise, are still work in progress despite being apostles. Remember, God calls men in their weaknesses, including Apostles. Many of their character flaws are still evident to all but that doesn't nullify their apostleship.
keep up the good work BRG. God bless.
Well spoken sir...
Well spoken Sir. Great information here. I'm learning a lot from here.
I look forward to your video on point number 4 where you mention that " a woman can never be an Apostle by divine order..."
I want to know how gender plays in here.
Also, can you please come clearer on why you think that Aps. Peter made a sincere error by casting lots?
Personally, I think that if Aps. Peter was wrong, then the Holy Spirit would have had an issue with the selection of Matthias.
However, I see that the scripture affirms the "Apostleship" of Matthias in Acts 2:14 where it reads that, "...Peter standing up with the eleven...", acknowledging Matthias as an Apostle.
This event happened after the lot was casted in Acts 1:20-26.
My opinion though.
Keep up with the good work Sir.
Saying Peter made an error ….. that took me off balance sincerely
@samueldonkoh44
Thank you sir for your edifying comments. To GOD be the glory. You raised a very valid point here and sincerely speaking,I can't refute the fact that he was mentioned at this point among the 12 when the Holy Spirit arrived.
Let's look at the school of thoughts concerning this matter. The criteria by which men chose an Apostle is absolutely different from he way the Holy Spirit chooses an individual. Like Samueel, they considered external factors but the Lord looks inward.
(They put two forward). This statement from the onset has restricted the Holy Spirit from choosing whom He desires to replace Judas. If the process is wrong, the product would be wrong too. Apostles were chosen through the guidance and sole authority of the Holy Spirit. If what they did was validated, then men could be able to create and choose Apostles for themselves today. The jurisdiction of whom is given as a gift to the body depends on the calling of the Holy Spirit. Scripture, especially when doctrine is concerned doesn't contradict Scripture. If Jesus, through the Spirit appointed Apostles, then in this our dispensation where the Holy Spirit is Lord, Apostles are chosen by Him, through Him. The old practice of casting lots also can't be brought into this new dispensation where the Holy Spirit has absolute automy over the affairs of the Body.
My thesis is based on how Jesus chose his Apostles and the consequences of men choosing Apostles for themselves without or restricting the Spirit's choices.
From the narrators perspective, he recorded the account of Matthais standing up with the 12, but on retrospect, with the understanding God has given to us, having considered other factors holistically, I'll still humbly stand on what I posted, even though I can't scripturally annul the point you raised. It's a matter of reasoning and deciding which school of thought you'll go with. Will release a snippet later about female Apostles tommorow and the full video on whether Apostles exist in our age next week. Thanks again sir for your comments. God bless.
@@kofoolowe8071
Well noted. Thank you for the comments.
Different schools of thought have been duly acknowledged.
I pray that God will continue to enlighten us more about this matter in Jesus name Amen 🙏
Awesome Teaching !!
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And “actually”…. I lost count
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Great job, George. The Lord is your strength.
George you went into the scriptures today and it was good. You exhausted my data and time but it was awesome. From the look of things you're An Apostle..😂😂😂😅.
@@EmmanuelEbenezer. de play Emmanuel. Just de play. 😃
Apostle simply means one whonis sent on a mission. I wonder why Nigerians or Africans are so crazy about names and titles. It's an office and one acts in the capacity. Ive never seen oyinbos call themselves Apostle here. The title is just a name. The office and work is the main thing. I love Pst Delvan and Sis Victoria by the way.
@@ZoeyBe I am very familiar with the west. Search the NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION (NAR movement) it’s a mess with goes on in that sect. From grave soaking and more
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George ❤❤❤I really appreciate you for what you are doing in the body of Christ thank you this is my appreciation
These days just ascend to strange unknown and un biblical dimensions and realms and boom, you're an apostle. Today's "apostles" go to heaven on a daily, interact with angels and the devil whenever, chill with Jesus anytime....... Very un biblical. But then again they are judgement for those that reject the truth.
So true
Exactly
Anyone saying there are no apostles today is simply saying we have no church today, and equally making God's word untrue.
1 Corinthians 12:28 says,
"And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers..."
That church mentioned there is still in existence today.
George, you taught very well in this video. Thank you 🙏
Thanks for your submissions on this subject.
I must also compliment you for ever so often allowing us your viewers to be blessed by the God-given teaching grace that is clearly upon your life.
Now to the meat or the subject matter that you raised:
The scripture you referred to in Acts 1 was dealing with the “Apostles of Lamb”
This is a special group of Apostles and the qualifications you read out deals with them.
The 12 apostles of the lamb are eye witnesses of the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ.
They are also mentioned in Rev. 21:14 as ones whose names would be on the 12 foundations of the New Jerusalem showing their specific roles.
A careful study of the NT would show that there are other people called apostles at least 22 and arguably 24.
Hence, apart from the 12 apostles of the lamb we have other foundational apostle’s which include Paul, Jude and James (who are the brothers of Jesus), Timothy, Titus, Apollos, Barnabas just to mention a few.
These foundational apostles (the 12 apostles of the lamb and the others including Paul) are “credited” with laying the foundation for the church and being used to write the NT scriptures.
The completion of the NT canon technically completes the work of these foundational apostles.
However, this does not conclude or complete the functioning of apostles in the NT.
Eph. 4:14 clearly show us the time span of NT apostolic ministry “…till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ”
This clearly has not happened therefore apostolic ministry is still relevant today.
However. there are no more foundational apostles because the canon of scripture is “closed”.
Please note that the call to the ministry of an apostle is not necessarily the same as the timing of one’s release to function in the office.
Studying Acts 13 shows that though Paul was called as an apostle he was not released to function in this office until later.
Note that the Holy Spirit said separate onto me Barnabas and Paul to the work I CALLED (not calling) them to do. Hence, though they were called as apostles they were not functioning in this office until much later.
Take it as it is translated. Apostle is an envoy. So, all christians are apostles according to the great commission. All sent to preach but few execute the order. When you are on duty establishing churches and preaching the gospel, you are an apostle in your region.
Based on what you said, there's no need for the dramatic ordination of anyone for them to become apostle. But Christianity today involves a lot of showbiz anyway 🤷🏾♀️
Dear BRG, you divided the word well. Personally, I think the problem we have in the church (body of Christ) today is the problem of humility, character and people trying to get affirmation by title. The attitude of trying to lord things over their fellow believers and trying to use titles that can mis-understandably be easily equated to the special place the 12 Apostles of Christ and Apostle Paul (Apostle to the Gentiles) occupy and the authority exercised (that comes from the word they heard from Christ and which they passed down to us according to the canonized scriptures is what I think is driving the title (apostle) being given to themselves these days. A lot of these is being driving by their bellies and hero worship of our people, if not why can’t we just say we are missionaries out of humility or better still, why can’t we just call ourselves Bro and Sis? They have bastardized the title of prophet, they have bastardized the title of pastor, the next one they want to bastardize is the title of Apostle- May God help us. On a lighter note, from the little I know of you, I can “prophesy” that you will not allow them to give you the title of “Apostle BRG”. Hmmm. This is the level to which they have messed up these titles. Whatever they do, one thing is sure, The Lord is on the throne. It is well.
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Thank you. God bless you.
Dear George, well, well done. You are putting your finger on nerves needed to be poked in the body of Christ. I hope all true churches with apostles watch this and raise their standards as commanded by apostle Paul; expose and root out falsehood for this and future generations. I hope also that they see, if they wish that they are accountable to the body of Christ and are without excuse. Hebrews 13:7, 17. This is implicit and explicit. According to my understanding, their responsibility also is to birth Christ to maturity in all believers. Blessings.
"Apostle" took you to court?😂😂 Na wah oh, there's just one person on my mind. Keep up the good work George. The Lord is your strength.
Thank You for this truth... you have really taught today... and well put... lets just work on our salvation and create, grow enrich our personal relationships with Jesus... let no man deceive you... God loves every man equally... and if you devote yourself to him he will talk to you... let Christ be the Standard of Salvation.. not apostle, pastor, or bishop or anything... just Jesus... you and him...
The Lord is my strength and my salvation
we get carried away with things that doesn't really matter.
An apostle is someone sent to teach a number of churches or certain group of people.
There are apostles today an example of an apostle today is brother Gbile akanni, God sends him to different churches to teach discipleship, just as paul was sent to teach the law and grace.
Pastoring or shepherding a church doesn't make one an apostle. The real apostles in our time do not carry the title they are doing the work, it is those not doing the work who seem to be obsessed over the title.
Thank you very much. You should be placed permanently on government salary😂😂😂
I believe Gbile works in the apostolic office, but you won't hear him use the title. This generation is title crazed
great insights as usual. the orenze intro is top notch. a cut away of a prophet saying they hear directly and also a video of an apostle saying prophets dont exist could have made it super too. then the videos of can i pro pro prophesy haha. Anyway am waiting for your video on the two faced person of ubert and his two faced presidential prophecies
@@josephjonesodoi8097 I did not really plan to call anyone out today. I know what you mean. As for Uebert, I have spoken about his pattern long ago.
If it is declared by God that one is an Apostle, then indeed, one is an Apostle. God never lies 🙌
🙌🏾🙌🏾 Well researched, George. It's through convos like this that we'll come to "the unity of the faith". I watched every bit. The Lord is my strength and salvation.
Recently, I finally accepted that the office of the apostle is still functional.
The argument that an apostle to the gentiles shouldn't be among the original 12, (and other points) are tenable. 👍🏾
👉🏾 But considering how God weaves gentiles into the scheme of His overall plan for salvation (e.g. genealogies), I still believe Paul is His replacement for Judas.
To your question: are there still apostles today? YES
SOME OF THE SIGNS?
1. Servanthood: 2 Cor. 4:5 NIV Apostles are SELFLESS.
"For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake."
2. Breaking into NEW territories to plant CHRIST-centred churches.
Romans 15:20 NKJV
"And so I have made it my aim to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build on another man’s foundation,"
3. Signs and wonders
II Cor. 12:12 NKJV
"Truly the signs of an apostle were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds."
4. Secure leadership. They EMPOWER the brethren for spiritual growth. They're not afraid of being surpassed. 👇🏾
Romans 1:11 NKJV
"For I long to see you, that I may impart to you some spiritual gift, so that you may be established-"
I Cor. 12:1 NKJV
"Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be ignorant:"
5. Teamwork: they worked as partners, with checks and balances: no one-man show. 👇🏾
Acts 15:2 NKJV
"...when Paul and Barnabas had no small...dispute with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain others... should go up to Jerusalem, to the apostles and elders, about this question."
**Apostleship is a GIFT and CALLING. It's neither earned nor conferred like a chieftaincy title. No minister deserves worship. We're ALL BRETHREN.
**I don't totally agree with your 'when' Paul 'became' an apostle, but no prob. It's a matter of opinion, I guess. 🙂
We'll keep studying and learning.
We keep learning. The when Paul became an apostle I mean is when he was RECOGNIZED BY WITNESSES. But note he was called to the Gentiles from his mother’s womb. You can be called but a community witnesses that.
I have an uncle that I can say did all this. Granted I can't prove the miraculous aspect but we talked at length when I was growing up and he never said anything about that aspect of his ministry. When I wanted to leave his house and go for a program in another church as a minor, he refused and just stuck to the Bible for his talking points. His ministry has been doing steady outreach focused on riverine areas in the South South and I've experienced it once. The church in Port Harcourt is very small when you consider that he's in his 70s and has been in ministry for a very long time (40 years I think). He doesn't believe in gathering more than you need and becoming rich. With his credentials, he should at least have retired as a high level staff (management) in an oil company and should be abroad with his family living a more comfortable life, but God had other plans. When he was warning me about pastors that glorify themselves and are busy getting rich, I didn't listen . But now I have to ask myself why a Christian is gathering properties when Yeshua literally said sell all and follow me 🤦🏾♀️ meanwhile they are people in the lowest level of poverty in the same church 😮😮 how? I thought Uncle was bitter but he was just trying to tell me the truth. He's not a rich man but he's trained 5 children to the university level, one is a doctor that studied in Ukraine.
George, you are a Bible teacher.
The Lord is my strength, and my salvation 🙏🏽🙏🏽
The words spoken on her are not Biblical and they are empty words they carry no mission I feel sorry for my sister
She Knows what she is doing
Such a déception 😢😢😢
I pity you rather, when you call his prayers empty words. Let me ask you this simple question. If all your words are quoted from the Bible without your faith in place will it work?
Go back and learn about faith before you condemn
@@jarizi107you are tell me is because of faith you guys are doing what was not written in the bible. Please read you bible with understanding. What they are doing is not written in the bible but God say do according to my word. Oga repent. Not everybody who call my name we see me on the last day. Make una dey deceive unaself
We are not restricted to their experiences. We are guided by the commands and instructions of God already revealed. But we have liberty to be encountered by God or by the instructions of God.
The Lord is my strength and my Salvation
Mr George and his favourite words “as-well), “indeed” 😂❤ keep it up bro… Ghana watches
@@theannalsofhistory. you have seen me finish. Oh my God! ✌️😃
Another Apostle is released to our generation and this time is for Ladies 😊AVO you're welcome 😊
The Lord is my strength and salvation 😊
You have really been patient 🫡
There are no more apostles who hold the "office" of an apostle today because there are criteria to being an apostle and those who call themselves apostles(as to holding the office of an apostle) today do not meet any of those criteria.
An apostle had to be chosen by Christ Himself or walked with Christ, an apostle had to have done signs and wonders among many other criteria, and Paul was chosen by Christ Himself, and did miracles too.
I don't see why there would be so many so called "apostles" today when they clearly do not meet the criteria and scripture clearly states that not all can be apostles 1cor 12:29.
Clearly not all can be Apostles and are all Apostles? …. In your second paragraph explain the Apostleship of Silas, Timothy or James that was not even part of the 12 but wrote part of the New Testament. I would love to learn from you.
We are all Apostles, prophets, preacher's, evangelists and teachers, "you name it".
We all have the Spirit of Christ that embodies all the gifts of the spirit.
I understand what you mean, George. We are all brothers.
I don't think Paul, Peter, Barnabus being named Apostles was a title in the Church "body of Christ" but rather a work.
Like how Goorge says he is a servant. As leaders and children of God and every one who follows Christ, we are all servants serving in the father's house.
I also don't see anything wrong with people labelling themselves this titles as long as it doesn't derail me from following Christ.
I enjoyed this Video. Thank you .
May Christ guide you and be blessed brother.❤
@@Christpower7 We are NOT all apostles, prophets, preachers, evangelists and preachers. The bible doesn't say that.
Eventhough the Holy Spirit in us embodies all the spiritual gifts, He(the Holy Spirit) does not just give it out to everyone and anyone, He gives the gifts as He wills, 1cor 12:11.
If it is true that we are all apostles, prophets, preachers, evangelists and preachers just because we have the Holy Spirit that embodies all, then the scripture that says we are not would be a lie(1cor 12:29-30).
Anyone labelling themselves as apostle without meeting any of the criteria really matters, they need to be considered and examined as to how they got their apostleship, it can be deceptive and boastful, hence why Paul admonish those who desire to be regarded as such but are not and he called them deceitful workers(2cor 11:12-15).
There is a woman mentioned in the Bible who is identified as an apostle-Junia.
Biblical Reference:
• Romans 16:7 (NIV):
“Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was.” Paul refers to Junia and Andronicus as “outstanding among the apostles”, suggesting that Junia was recognized as an apostle and held in high regard. The term apostle here signifies a messenger or one sent out to spread the Gospel.
Junia was highly recognized or outstanding because of her work in the support of the Apostles or the apostolic band.
Romans 16:7 NLT - Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews, who were in prison with me. They are highly respected among the apostles and became followers of Christ before I did.
The Apostles held them in high regards, not because they were Apostles, but most likely because of their commitment to Jesus and the work of building the early church.
Don't add to the scriptures..Mr, the bible never mentioned such... who are of note among the Apostles..
The Lord is my strength and salvation.
My brother, simply put, an apostle today is an evangelist.
There are three main offices in which the headship of the body of believers wherein they who are gifted operate from: the prophetic, the ministry, and exhortation. These offices are the apostle, the prophet, and the pastors. The prophetic office is one, the gift of ministry is two: being apostles and evangelists for the evangelists are indeed apostles. And then the pastors who are indeed teachers. The prophets have the prophetic gift of prophecy, the apostles of the gift of ministry, and the pastors having the gifts of exhortation.
Shalom!
George l really missed you watching from Malawi
56:25 The Lord is my strength and my Salvation
The lord is my strength and salvation whom shall I fear
BRG you mentioned Silas and Timothy as apostles based on the letters to the Thessalonians, but in those letters one cannot see any evidence of them being apostles, or was it because of writing letters? Even those letters if you read the end you will notice that it was Paul who wrote them, ie , dictated for someone to write.
However, there are apostles Paul mentioned, someone like Barnabas and the ones you mentioned Andronicus and Junia (a woman).
Nonetheless, AO put his own criteria of a modern day apostle, that is, Jesus has to appear to you ( is it in the scriptures?), that's why we have a plethora of apostles from nowhere, just because they fasted for 100 days and someone calling himself Jesus (which could also be a demon) appeared and commissioned them; they run with the title.
What they forget is that, spiritual activity doesn't make you immune to deception.
You are right, one has to be already teaching (doctrinaly sound) before he becomes an apostle (if it is necessary). I am curious though, what about the prophets?
@@belovedflorence4109 one day we will talk about the prophets. Silas I took time to write on him ( there are texts on screen Pause and read my dear ) , even Timothy too. That’s why I said - WHO ARE THE WE? -
The Lord is my strength oo
Without mixing words
What you are doing with your channel is simply responding to the Teaching grace upon your life
What you're simply doing is rightly dividing the words of truth
Teaching to bring understanding and balance
Well-done sir...this is a dimension of the teaching office in manifestation
I'll want to see more on other offices
@@Ike_Chukwu25 I can’t say such about myself. Let’s say I just know how to make videos and share what I know.
If I understand your basic issue of concern: "conjecturing as to whether or not there are apostles today" your argument is based on a set of tiers. There is i) the ethnicity tier that focuses on religious and culturally specific characteristics that separate groups (the 12 Jewish (Jerusalem based) apostles of Jesus fell into this subset); Paul's mission to the gentiles also made him a part of this ethnicity subset. ii) the vernacular category is drawn from the verb apostello which would cover the whole architecture of discipleship. Finally, there are those who were iii) affiliates of the main characters (as in Paul and Barnabas), where the main-character-role was identified by the character being mentioned first. It would seem to me that on vernacular grounds primarily, the term still has relevance. However, my contention lies with the antipathy to orthodoxy that attends the present dispensational use. I am suggesting that within the immediate context - in addition to those who may benignly employ the term - there are those who see it as a means of disidentifying (acrimoniously) from some nurturing body, of which they were part. The latter, especially on (In Christ Pauline ecumenical) grounds, raises questions about their authenticity (Ephesians 4: 3-13)
Reasonable
There are charlatans and there are amplified charlatans 😂
From what I have learned, there are no apostles since they were to lay the foundation. What foundation are these modern ones laying.
As much as I agree with almost everything that you've said, I don't agree that we still have genuine Apostles or and Prophets. I'll like to know any if there are.
Thank you
I think you are holding on to wrong doctrines. Read the bible with an open heart and let the Holy Spirit lead you. There are prophets and Apostles today but they might not be the ones at the forefront as they claim.
You're as good as someone saying we have no genuine church today. Read your bible.
We still have apostles today, cos the bible says this signs shall follow them who believe.. I will recommend this true bible base apostles you if you don't mind.. pastor Gino jennings.. of the truth of God inc!
We still have apostles today, cos the bible says this signs shall follow them who believe.. I will recommend this true bible base apostles you if you don't mind.. pastor Gino jennings.. of the truth of God inc!
George did Jesus choose 12 apostles or 12 disciples?
The person that replaced Judas was it as an apostle or as a disciple?
We are reading the ACTS OF THE APOSTLES. “Apostles of the Lamb” . Discipleship for learning. Apostles when sent forth to continue…. Timeline ( I always say )
Hmmm. I haven't listened yet but yes, there are apostles till today. I'll elaborate later.
Add more to the conversation to further buttress your belief ✍️
Lol don’t elaborate anything
There are no apostles(the office) today because the ones parading themselves as apostles today do not meet any of the criteria of an apostle.
Probably you can change my mind by showing me anyone who meets the criteria today.
@@charlesluminaryplease what is the criteria of an apostle?
@@Al-pc9dx There are a bunch stated in the scriptures, some of them are:
Seeing the resurrected Christ(1cor 9:1)...Walking with Christ when He was on earth(Acts 1:21,22)...being able to perform signs and wonders(2cor 12:12)...chosen to suffer for Christ(Acts 9:15-16; 1cor 4:9)...chosen and sent by Christ Himself(Lk 6:13; Acts 9:15; Rom 1:1)
Thanks for the video Sir
Always a pleasure
Came once by curiosity
Stayed since because of facts🎉
Jesus Christ Himself chose His disciples as seen in the scriptures. As per Matthias, he was chosen per the slot picking based on rules. But from the concept of Scriptures, I believe the person who was actually truly chosen by Jesus Christ to replace Judas Iscariot as the 12th disciple was Apostle Paul. I stand to be corrected please as a Word Bible student and a student of the Spirit of Christ. Thank you.
I am still watching the video though.😊
Good afternoon Mr George. How are you doing sir? Been seeing and watching your videos relative to the Elon Musk issue. Plus thank you for acknowledging the person who reminded you about the Kenneth Hagin teachings again too. I smiled to myself when I heard you mention it; Blessing Osasenaga Agbonavbare used to be my UA-cam name before I changed it to this recent one. Thank you.
Well done sir.
The solution to this problem is that every follower of Christ needs to pick up their bible and read it for themselves otherwise the extent of deception will only grow deeper. The point is that, the bible should be our primary guide to form a personal relationship with God. Just like satan will never repent, some of these self proclaimed teachers have been cornered and may never repent. Apostle Paul once said, follow me as I follow Christ. If you test the 'spirits' of some of these men of God, they are clearly not of God. Heb 11:6, God is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. Believers need to stop diligently seeking these men of God.
Perhaps, there are Apostles today but are not Apostles of JESUS CHRIST. just maybe.
apostle means sent one and i don't why people get hard time to understand that , the same way we are disciple . that's how we also have apostles
Whenever you mention Paul I think of Joshua Selman , bro claims to have been visited by the spirit of Paul .
Tickling ears are fond of those stories, so they always deliver.😊
Hmmmm
Mr. Goerge hasn't called anyone's name please let's watch our tone..
Christ is the head of the Church and sets some to be Apostles, Prophets, Teachers..... (1 Corinthians 12:28). Now how does He do this? He can direct other seasoned Ministers to ordain someone into that office as we see in Acts 13:2. Please notice that this meeting was in the church at Antioch and in that Church were PROPHETS and TEACHERS. This Church had other leaders occupying other offices as described in 1 Corinthians 12:28. What was Paul called to do? He was called to the office of an APOSTLE and sent to THE GENTILES as he (Paul) affirms in Romans 11:13 and Galatians 2:8. Please notice that Paul already had an encounter with the Lord Jesus in Acts 9 and began testifying to the truth that Jesus is the Christ immediately after his conversion. But that did not place him in the office of an Apostle. So, there is scriptural precedence that the Holy Spirit can minister to other people Christ has placed into these offices in His body to ordain someone into a particular office.
Now the issue is not the laying on of hands and ordaining a person into that office as far as I am concerned. The issue is do you see the signs of an Apostle following this person/individual's ministry? In 2 Corinthians 12:12 Paul says that the 'signs of an Apostle' was wrought amongst the Corinthians as he went about fulfilling his ministry (the work he was called to do). I know a lot of people don't like hearing about signs and wonders, especially given the way this has been abused and misunderstood. But, an Apostolic ministry will be validated with signs and wonders (occurrences that are beyond human explanation) which are all meant to bring glory to the one who called that person into that office - JESUS CHRIST.
If someone calls himself/herself an Apostle what then should you consider? (a) Is his/her character consistent with the character required of someone occupying a spiritual office - 1 Tim 3-12; (b) Does he/she know who he/she has been sent to? (c) Are the signs of an Apostle evident in this person's ministry?
Apostles are ‘ sent ones’ the role is missionaries in modern day terms . If you look at church history you will see since 1800s there was huge missions to the world.
I believe in the 5 fold ministries ( which is separate to the Spiritual Gifts) and they still operate but under different names today.
Ephesians 4:11
Apostle-‘ shaliach ‘ “ Sent one”=Missionary
Prophet- ‘ navi.’ “ Seer” to proclaim = Bible Prophecy Teacher
Teacher-‘ Moriah’ “one who is able to impart truth and wisdom for life”
= Bible Teacher
Pastor-‘ ra'ah’ “ the shepherd “ = leads, cares for the flock= local church leader
Evangelist-‘ basar’ “ to evangelise, “ bearer of good news” aka The Gospel .
= Gospel preacher
Within these roles , they should operate in the gifts of the Spirit , as all Christians should do .
1Corinthians 12
The nine gifts of the Spirit are a word of wisdom, word of knowledge, discerning of spirits, faith, miracles, healing, tongues, interpretation, and prophecy.
Brother, I've been looking for a good biblical Churchbto attached, which Church denomination or pastors would you recommend, thank you!
@@AaronAmaah I usually don’t answer this question. Bro Gbile Akani I can give my ears to but again be diligent in study and walk with God too. There are many wonderful churches but no perfect denomination. Growth is constant.
Thank you very much brother @BeingRealGeorge
This is for those of you calling George anti Christ. Let this video be a reminder to y’all that George is not only smart but he’s more theologically sound than you all combined. Peace ✌️ Thank You George for all you do. God bless you!!
Personally, my understanding of the verse in Ephesians doesn't allow for Modern day apostles and I'm not a ceasationist.
The problem for you might starts when we begin to define our terms
Interesting
On prophets and apostles:
The might be but I haven't seen any
Weldone
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Am so refresh and glad you spoke on this topic and More importantly to me you added scriptures which confirm a lot of things and am so happy.
There are no apostles today. The canon of the scripture is closed
Christians be kind and generous it is the Apostles that install or planted churches all over the world,many Christians today are selfish they don't want to ordained Apostles are very needed,they plant church,birth gifts of God people and supervise God churches,,this year 2024 God is ordaining prophets,bishops and Apostles, 1 cor 12,l love you very much from. God true servant Marie
One of the Main Criteria of the Apostolic Office is That One must have SEEN THE LORD JESUS, Sit is from the ENCOUNTER that he Tell you YOUR OFFICE.
This doesn't mean that everyone who has seen JESUS is an APOSTLE, but It is one of THE Criterions, thats why all through the SCRIPTURES all who Was Tagged AN APOSTLE SAW JESUS...but its so sad today its a Thing of ORDINATION.
After receiving SUCH A CALL From an Encounter the BODY has to Verify through The SPIRIT of you are truly an APOSTLE.
Please cite your Scriptural references to your claims
@@ruth_adewole_o There are Explicit and Non Explicit Statement from Scrioture, its simple Showvme anyone who was an Apostle that didn't see the messiah..
Paul was Calledvtovbe an Apostle to the Gentiles that was why he had to Encounter JESUS...Remember the disciples had casted lot for the replacement of Judas so therevqas no need for another Apostolic Office if itvwas just about 12 MEN, but because thats part of the Criterions And Paul Needed to Receive a Revelation directly..
An Apostolic call Reveives instruction from Jesus himself, Because he is a Pace Setter in the Kingdom. Read The whole Acts of the APOSTLES
Not entirely true. One had to be:
Called by Christ
Walked with Him
Experienced Christ's resurrection
@@disciple8531 Read what I wrote properly
@@disciple8531 Did Paul witnessed the resurrection???
The lord is my strength and salvation 🎉😂❤
The gifts God gave to the church Apostles, prophets, evangelist, pastors and teachers have their different roles. The teaching that the apostolic office has ceased does not in anyway contradic the truth that God gave these gifts to the church. The Apostles and prophets laid down the teachings of and doctrines for the church, while the other ministries carry on the work.
Discuss
Why do we mostly hear of Apostles and prophets more in the African church? Just asking
Apostle Paul saw the resurrected Jesus on his way to Damascus and there are eyes witnesses
Read again. Witnesses ? Yes. Heard voice but only Paul
Understood. Not like the Disciples. Timeline ….
@BeingRealGeorge Paul saw the resurrected christ..unless you are saying Paul was lying..yes eyes witnesses he was travelling with his troops to Damascus, secondly the man that opened his eyes that Jesus told Paul was coming to met him ..look at what paul said in 1cor 15:8...1cor 9:1
So what are you talking? Was Paul lying? My answer is capital NO
@BeingRealGeorge
(1 Corinthians 15:8
and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.)
This is not vision or dreaming..me and you know that after Jesus resurrected, for 40 days , he kept on appearing to people
So with this 1 cor 15:8 which of these fake Nigerians apostles you are defending..not only that which of the Nigerians apostles is living the life of an apostle? Even the word of God is a stumbling block to them
@ No one said he is lying. I literally showed that in the video . Is there a difference between the appearance of Jesus to the apostles after the resurrection and his appearance to Paul? YES.
Imagine anyone who claims to see Jesus today { except you don’t believe them} I won’t say I have seen an apparition of Jesus myself. Won’t you say they saw the resurrected Christ?
The cessation theology believes that no one has seen Jesus after his resurrection till he returns again….
The time Jesus was seen by the Apostles was not the same as Paul and certainly not the same manner. That’s the point. Paul did not see Jesus the same way others did.
Nice exegesis welldone sir but i have a question...the Catholic church how do they choose these fivefold Ministers or don't they accept it
Is every one just a priest in thier own order
There is no office if the rev fr in the bible and there are no orders
So how fo they reconcile the fivefold ministry with the priesthood and the different orders
I hope my question is clear enough and
I believe you understand what i mean by "orders" as an ex seminarian
Thank you
That’s a different whole topic entirely and one day I will discuss it but that means we will go deep into church history and the eastern othordox leading to the great schism.
While I respect every denomination I understand the Protestants or Lutherans “sola scriptora” is what I am basing this video on. But in the Catholic Church we then talk about CHURCH TRADITIONs that can have same authority as scripture. I will get a lot of heat when finally speak on this things but it will take time before I discuss it.
For now the focus should be on Jesus.
Thanks for your work bro. But my question has always been if an apostle is not establishing doctrine, then what is the unique function of an apostle. Another way to ask is this, what does an apostle do today that's different from what the rest of four-fold office does. I'd love to hear your opinion
@@FoundingTruthNetwork the Apostles today cannot establish a revelation as a pattern of doctrine OUTSIDE the scriptures like I stated . EVERY DOCTRINE CAN BE TRACED TO THE REVELATION OF SCRIPTURE ( the written word we witness from ) . Nothing is new under the sun.
I have not discussed of the other folds so I can’t just write few words to risk being misunderstood. I like to talk with facts. And normally I don’t do this kind of videos except the need for such conversations be. My videos are born out of controversies . The folds served the same PURPOSE of equipping the saints but their pattern of operation is unique. Rather than focus on what makes one different from the other, the Apostles and Prophets and leaders in the early church never cared much about titles but were more humble in how they carry themselves unlike the scribes and Pharisees of Jesus’s day.
They would be called brothers, servants, bond servants etc… how you function is tied to your calling but the gift of God empowers the called.
Personally I think titles are just fancy and not as important as the purpose we serve to take the gospel to the ends of the earth as servants of God who has no favorites.
@BeingRealGeorge thanks for what you do
Beautiful response sir. @@BeingRealGeorge
we, africans are not even gentiles geographically speaking. There are various mentions and references showing that africans existed even in bible days.
The truth is anyone can choose whatever title they want to feed their ego with. After the twelve Apostles in the history of the Church, those who carried Christianity for 2000 years never gave themselves the title of apostles. Even the ones that were ordained by St. Peter and St. Paul and all those who worked with them and also took over from them were never called Apostles. Then 2,500 years later , we are suddenly having apostles from every corner. Who ordained them and who ordained the ones that ordained them can the line be traced to apostolic succession?
Of course they're Apostles to the unlearned protestants, and not to those with the understanding of what the word of God is saying.
Everyone should go and read Church history, it will save you from alot of these confusions.
We still got apostles till date, if jesus chose 12 apostles + the other 2 :barnabas and paul, then how could they have preach this gospel to the whole world.. this sign shall follow them whi believe in my name.. go he into the world and preach the gospel to all creation...Jesus never tookt them away
Brother, it is sad to see how the church is blatantly walking away from her master Jesus christ, where in the Bible you have a female apostle, this particular one with braided hair! The devil authored this confusion but we sometimes have left him baffled at the rate of seriousness we took his deceit for the truth
@@LiveOnTheHolyWord this video is Long.
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If you say Apostleship is more mobile, that I am skeptical about because the early Apostles were not mobile.
The Bible is clear on this my dear …. Set apart and sent out. Paul moved, Silas moved, James moved … their witness is with us today as scripture moving. That’s why I said they could be of influence in one place
Which Red Sea or Egypt is she passing through?
Was she in slavery with the children of Israel in Egypt in the days of Moses? ☹
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Are there apostles today in the likeness of the apostles of the early church? Evidently NO. The fact that we are having this debate is proof that there are no apostles.
And besides that argument, the history of the church shows clearly that the early church fathers themselves never claimed apostleship. Polycap, a personal student of John, were merely teachers, Timothy, Areneus, Ignatius, and many more. The claim of apostleship appears to have started with pentecostal teachings.
Hi George, i don't know if you've done a detailed video about the bible not being the word of God and Paul contradicts Jesus. As I hear some "men of God" propagating. I just feel terrible when i see these secular attacks on Christianity being adopted by people who profess with their tongues to be followers of Christ. I will wish to know what your conviction is.
Men of God say that? Wow alot of people do not know the gospel.
All i will say is, the devil was raised in a holy place, most people think he will be more active in a witch hut nope he resides in churches most Christians carry him without knowing, let's not forget he knows the scripture too well. I am not saying i know too much o infact what do i know.
There are Apostles of men by man. While we have few Apostles of God by the father and our Lord Jesus Christ. Gal. 1;1
Different angle
There is no Apostle in this Generation, WHAT THEY CALL APOSTLE TODAY IS OCCULT.
1 Corinthians 12:28 says,
"And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers..."
If there are no apostles today, then there's no church today, right? The devil finds it easy to deceive the gullible who have no knowledge of the scriptures.
@majormayco I believe you can see things yourself.
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