With this, it looks more like a racing incident. Hamilton was leaning too much into Max and Max's rear tyre had no where else to go. And this makes the FIA claim that Max had no right to racing room when Max is almost fully along side him all the more frustrating.
@@marcyeo8320 yeah, maybe you should read the steward document. It’s clear: he wasn’t along side Lewis through the majority of the breaking zone. From the onboard you can see he’s behind Lewis by more than a cars length as they pass the breaking zone metre boards. He only get along side him enough during the mid phase Of the corner entry and that’s too late mate. That’s when you concede and try and get them again in the remaining corners over the remaining 20 odd laps. To not yield is just driving into the car ahead. A car on the outside should be along side through the breaking zone, and nearly completely alongside, or ahead even to control the corner. Anything else is just throwing your car into a space where it don’t belong and will collide with the car in front.
This is the stuff the stewards need to make better decisions. I love the fact that you didn't give an opinion in the title. If this work doesn't get you in the picture for F1 I don't know what will. Amazing job.
@@zm6301 This one was not about who was wrong or right. It's about analysis. Now they can make the curve better, because we can both agree that both cobs as wel as this corner are poorly designed.
@@basengelblik5199 ok, but you were talking about the stewards making better decisions and that's what I commented on. Redesigning is another issue and yeah, it could be used for that too I suppose but even then, no turn can be perfect bc it comes down to how drivers approach it, especially side by side as in this case.
@@zm6301 I agree ... all can learn from Alonso. Side by side racing to the max. Practically every driver on the grid should get a lecture from Alonso when they fuck up.
@@howdareyou41 I don't blame Max. We've seen this before. Neither driver was going to concede that corner. At least nobody went to the hospital this time.
Being honest , when you started the channel with Romian's crash, I thought that basic solid colour 3D models are the once we are going to get. Still I was excited. Now it's even cooler
I'm interested why we need recreations and animations when the real life video recordings that were taken are much clearer and much lot detailed, no room for human error in a recreation when u stick to the source..??
I do hope you're getting paid to do these because you my friend have a brilliant talent in graphic design, and simulation engineering, which could save countless lives in this sport.
The more I watch the more I think this should have been a racing incident, it appears both drivers were being aggressive and contributed equally to the crash.
No, Hamilton was ahead going into turn 1 so he had the right to the line. Then max wanted to force his way in like a child. Max is more at fault for not backing out of a tight spot.
@@hiphop296 by this logic no one should ever attempt to pass on a turn. Lewis could have given him space, but he didn't which is why it's a racing incident.
@@Ivory_GT bruh, there are 100s of different turns in F1, some have different restrictions when it comes to racing. This turn isn't really the easiest to overtake on. Its all about who gets to the turn 1st and picks a line. If Lewis was behind Max when they got to the turn then Ham would be required to give more space. But since Ham got their first and put his car in the turn 1st, he gets to choose the line, and Max needed to understand nobody would.just move aside so he could easily pass. This sam thing happened multiple times in sprint and the race but others knew when to back out unlike Max.
@@hiphop296people did pass on that turn throughout the weekend. You also can't discount that Lewis was coming out of the pits and forced Verstappen wide before the turn. Simply stating the rules is great, but this situation is more nuanced than that.
@@Ivory_GT yes I'm aware multiple overtake happened on this turn. But all of them were under different circumstances. Thats thr whole point. It all depends on the circumstances.
@@Spyker8921 what do you mean by allowed? My point of view is that the wheel didn't put as much force on the helmet and just had contact with it because the wheel and car itself was being supported by the halo.
@@jovenc.1290 Without the halo, there's a chance the wheel would have been up in the air and Verstappen's car stuck there. But the halo allowed his car to roll down Lewis' car because the halo gave grip to the right rear wheel.
Dude, find a way to sell your services to F1, I'd love to see these used in the crash analysis videos they do. It's almost like an air crash investigation.
Right, running wide in a one lane S-curve or how about Max attempting wildly to pass when there was zero space to pass, but he was going hell or high water, how about that? Guy wins a couple of races all of a sudden he elevate to the level of the grat ones? It's called defending your race line, you that make it hard for you to be passed its called professional race car driving. they make books on that you might want to pick one up and understand what is happening. Not everything is evil.
@The Stranger Exactly, Verstappen was clearly enraged by his pit stop and that caused him to be irrational thinking that Hamilton would allow him to overtake in that corner. He should’ve used the run off, he knew what would happen if he didn’t. The stewards made the right call
The severity is still a point of debate. Without the halo, lethal. With it, barely a tap. I think this whole thing is being blown out of proportion to such an extent, that racing is becoming impossible.
@@justinrockmore327 Yeah it weirds me out that people can not see the back wheel clearly land on his head then push it forward. I guess the thought process is Max's entire car weight is equivalent to a single sheet of paper?
It was a racing incident imo. Verstappen started the overtaking manouver very late, but at the second corner Lewis should have left more space, because Verstappen was already alongisde him. So I think it's unfair to penalize Max for this one.
My thoughts exactly. If anyone should be penalized it should be the driver who failed to leave space. But the move was so late it's hard to fault Hamilton. Penalizing Max just seems absurd to me, I think it's his comment on the radio that drew the penalty tbh
Atleast, here is someone talking sensibly. Also, why doesn't anyone talk about his entry onto the track where he moved right across Max's path? Max also left the racing line
Max could've gone on the run off. He went into the corner too fast to properly overtake. Hamilton had no reason to give him room, just like Max didn't give him room on lap 1 turn 4 despite Hamilton actually being alongside him then.
no, Max went in way to shallow instead of taking the wider line and that is why he ran wide. Lewis left just enough room to have squeezed his car in just like Giovinazzi on lap 1 did.
@@dylanwest4265 Except it definitely did, as the cars went deep into the shock absorbing barrier the Halo shielded the drivers head from the enveloping barrier.
This comment makes a lot clear. You are biased towards Verstappen and can't accept when he is in the wrong. Which; by the way, is every time he gets near Lewis and tries to shove him off the track.
So Hamilton went wide to block an in race car hurtling at twice his speed. OK. He could have followed same racing line as Lando and still kept a fair outcome, instead he forced max to take the penalty line and that was never going to happen.
@@santaccccccc your not defending an overtake, your going at half speed jumping into high speed lane, effectively you are blocking an overtake...by forcing other car off the road.
Hamilton definitely squeezed him out. Verstappen should have known that’s what Hamilton would do. I don’t think this deserved a penalty. Verstappen could have backed off and tried another move around curve grande into Roggia or later in the race.
@@ronaldjouster6929 yes, the only thing here was when you are on the outside you have to be full alongside or ahead a little to be entitled to space. Max wasn't that's why he received the penalty
@@maruplay4544 You are correct...i'm a Dutchman and i like Max to win, but this was not a correct overtake. But i understand that he tried...it just didn't work. It was also a bit of a weird accident, you would expect that maybe Max destroyed his front wing or something. I think Max just gained the most of taking them both out. And that penalty isn't that severe in Russia.
@@ronaldjouster6929 same here. I am supporting Hamilton, between the two, my favourite being Gasly. I wouldn't mind Verstappen winning as long as it's clean racing but this has to stop, it's becoming ridiculous
@@Toastburro I’m sure they could work something out if there was enough interest. Think of the potential value these animations have for teams too. And with a bigger budget…
so concluding: it was a great attempt by VER to pass HAM in the chicane; it was a great attempt by HAM to squeeze VER to try and block him; when VERs car would not have hit the curb they would have both made the corner and we would have seen a spectacular F1 action, whoever would have come out first.
max was never making that corner and chose to go over the kerbs instead of the escape. and going by lap 1 in multilpe race, its amazing max fans cant see the hypocrisy of saying lewis shouldnt have squeezed him
It is obvious hamilton is blocking him off at T2 to and dared max to come abeam. Looking at the lines on the track its obvious who isnt in the racing line but cutting the other off
it's called defending. Alonso did such moves against Hamilton in Hungary, Charles did it against Perez, heck even VERSTAPPEN did it in lap 1 against Hamilton at turn 4. This hypocrisy of when anyone but Hamilton does it against him, it's good defending, suddenly when Hamilton does it it's called blocking.
@@espa_navismy8169 After what happened on Silverstone and Hungaroring you wouldn't too. And as you can see Hamilton had no intention to back of as well but in fact squeezed even harder while inside the chicane. Not the first stupid move he made this season but in this occasion he almost managed to kill himself as he forgot to calculate where Max would land this time after being launched.
@@espa_navismy8169 Once thing Max isn't particularly good is controlling his car after motor-crossing a kerb. He did it to Hamilton at Imola, Spain, Monza. Hamilton just did to him once and he threw his car already.
Agree specially after I've seen the REGULAR line that Norris took vs lh line. Which means lh did PURPOSELY going out of his way to block Max. And still no penalty for lh...
Having seen this, I don’t understand why VER was given a grid penalty over the incident. HAM did squeeze VER, not by a lot, and VER did try to stay left except he could have used the runoff instead. So just treat it as a racing incident?
As per Chris Smith and also adding as you state he could have used the runoff but chose not as he didn't want to have to give back the position. I think the decision was a good one. Not a big Hamilton fan. I like the battle between these guys but they need to calm a bit otherwise they r going to kill eachother and that will be a huge shame and catastrophe
@@hugoporras3162 Verstappen was nowhere near alongside in the braking zone or at corner entry. It was nothing more than a desperate lunge with literally no chance of coming off.
@@chrissmith-wb6st have you even seen the video? Verstappen brakes esrlier than anyone and Hamilton moves slightly under braking (which he cant) because he would have lost the position directly
Wow, great job! They should indeed ask you to make these videos BEFORE deciding what penalty would be accurate. I am a Max fan, and I thought: "ok Max is irritated and shows some immature behaviour after a long time again..." Now seeing this, I think: "Lewis went too far to the left after leaving the pitlane and also in the corner did not leave Max any space - did not go to the right at all, pushed him even further to the left. In conclusion, Max is the winner of the weekend with two extra points and FIA should withdrawal the penalty for Sochi.
Use your imagination, look how hot Max is coming in, look at the angle of his car at the apex, even if Lewis disappeared Max is not making that corner with out using the whole track... therefore leaving anyspace for Lewis on the exit was not even in Max's equation. To say was an aggressive move would be underselling it.
@@snorkman2 sorry, but using some 'imagination' just don't cut it. The fact's are more important. Its clear to see that Hamilton uses another raceline then what he normaly uses with all previous rounds he's been driven. He's trying to defend wich is his good right. Only problem is that Verstappen who is driving a bit behind, but longside him before the actual corner (you can only defend if your opponent is behind you. If he is nòt you must give him space) So Hamilton is obliged to give him enough space, which he did not... Further more, I dont now if you have any driving experience. If so, one of the things you'll learn is to look in front and ahead when driving. Where talking about the currently 2 best drivers of the planet. On this level, almost nothing is an coincidence. There is just to much at stake for those 2 so both made some decisions what they normaly didn't do. They are both right ànd wrong. It should be signed off as an race accident. Nothing more, nothing lees...
@@doargietweitervandah i do know the guy in front has vision through small mirrors and the guy behind can see exactly what's happening, my 'opinion' is Max made amateur error and worked out good for him this time.
@@snorkman2 Oh i see. It looks that you are an Hamilton fan. Therefore you can't make an honest jugdment OR opinion. But that's ok. Let me help you by giving you a link. Then you'll see wat actualy happend. Fact's don't lie. Therefore it was an race accident and must be treated as such. The one really is to blame is FIAA. ua-cam.com/video/rbU_iUIay3w/v-deo.html Btw. Verstappen didn't make an error. He has chosen to keeping the foot on the pedal. Fact is that he makes it to the corner, but Lewis choose to get wide. So both must live with the consequences. Also FIA is biased as funk, so ofcourse Verstappen recieves an more heavy punishment than Lewis at Silverstone. But i guess its all to do with money/betting (me noticing there were some deadbeat broke celebrity's that day) who all putting there last coin on Hamilton for shure...
@@doargietweitervandah I hate Hamilton, I'm am a Riccardio fan, and Max did Daniel a favour taking Hamilton out, because I am sure Hamilton was going to be too quick on the mediums to hold off and would have likely won the race. My point is Max stuffed up and it worked out ok for him, you can't blame a sausage curb... it was always there... he knew it was there... and he did it anyway.
@@madjayax731 Max was clearly in front there and he gave Lewis just enough space. Lewis didn't gave space to Max at all and Max was already in the corner along side Lewis. They both race hard and this is what you get. Both could have done more but its not only the fault of Max..
@@dyon5152 The missing crash recipe at Turn 4 lap 1 is the driver on the aggressor choose to back-off, but the aggressor at Turn 1 Lap 26 choose not to. You can see the pattern.
On cold tires Hamilton gave Norris room in the first lap. With Verstappen he squeezed him onto the curb. Exact same situation, different line. Hamilton turned into Verstappen. They crashed him from the track 3 times now, hardly getting a penalty. FIA really wants Hamilton to take Schumacher's record to prove f1 isn't white. So sickening. Hamilton is just a posterboy.
Then Verstappen clearly needs to learn how to pick his passing points on track better, rather then bomb it in and hope for the best. If Verstappen had more patience and race craft, he'd have more then a 5 point lead over Hamilton right now, when Hamilton has only 4 race wins to Verstappens 7 this season.
Exceeding track limits is when all 4 wheels are over the white line, which never happened with Verstappen. Therefore, both drivers must have been considered on the track and contact was only made because of the positioning of the ridiculous sausage kerbs.
Can we just admire how good the suspension is. That angle and way the tire went on/off the top with nothing broken, and all the deflection,(and off of H’s helmet).
Nice animation and also the text “ Hamilton went of his race line and go more wide” then normale needed makes clear for me that when someone made a mistake it is Hamilton who did this by purpose
Like SR said, He was not on the Racine line and had to take a wider turn. He could have taken an even wider turn and make contact with Verstappen, like Verstappen did with him I turn 4 on lap 1, but he left enough room for Verstappen to bailout. Verstappen could not have made the turn in any case because Hamilton was entitled to take the racing line of the next corner, and Another driver would have take the escape route. But no. Verstappen was ambitious to say the least.
@@pascalabessolo5350 in other words verstappen was bullishly stupid as is so often the case. Plus he was pissed off from a poor pitstop, being stuck by lando, and then knowing he would end up behind Lewis after the exit of turn 2, instead of positioning so he could use effective slipstream for the exit going to the next set of corners he tries to force his way down the non existent inside that was always closing on him. If every driver used his logic then no driver would defend the inside they would just let whoever was close behind them going into the corner go through and overtake. Just as it is on the road it is on the track, if you are the driver behind you are considered at fault for not reacting to the car ahead and crashing into them. This animation has obviously taken real work but once again is biased in favour of verstappen seemingly putting him further forward than he actually was going into turn 2, but even with the bias it still shows that the only logical choice for verstappen going into turn 2 was to use the run off area like he forced Lewis to do on the first lap. The accident lays firmly and solely on verstappen's shoulders. The stewards wording on the penalty actually reads that there was basically nothing to suggest it wasn't solely verstappen's fault, so the penalty and points on the licence seem quite lenient to be honest.
@@pascalabessolo5350 nah, Hamilton left som racing room for Verstappen and he took it, then Hamilton closed it and by then it was too late for him to go anywhere else. Racing incident. Thats what happened, for any unbiased person atleast.
You are in no way on earth just a random guy doing animations. You definitely have proper expensive equipment and is highly skilled to do such an accurate animation/recreation. F1 needs to hire you!
Watching this I'm not sure I can see where Mercedes expected Max to go after they'd gone through the first part of the chicane. He couldn't exactly make the car disappear and the sausage kerb was only ever going to spear him into Lewis if he turned left
@@EinfachnurItax360 Hamilton was more alongside Verstappen at the beginning of turn 4 on lap 1 than the later in that instance, and still he took the escape route because you know, don't want to crash..
@@pascalabessolo5350 he was even ahead in imola but still bailed out instead of going full kamikaze. heck, daniel showed exactly what max should have done in the sprint race lap 1 against max himself. im, sorry but this entitled method of driving will only lead to more crashes
@@pascalabessolo5350 Max closed the door much earlier. Lewis left a gap and only started squeezing after Max already was passed the escape road. Others call it being "fair", I call it being "indecisive". Either leave room or don't, but not this halfway attempt.
@@bernhardtlouw3525 Lewis couldn't force Max wider at Turn 1, without drawing some questions from the stewards. Plus the Stewards were correct, Max attempted a really dangerous Move into one of the tightest Chicanes on the Racing Circuit. There really isn't room for 2 cars side by side..it has always ended in a collision, when drivers attempt it.
Well, we still have to consider the minimum time for a driver to get out of the car. A higher halo would make it more difficult, but I agree that it should be looked at
That over head shot and the positioning of the cars is an eye opener. Hamilton’s shallower entry angle meant he’d always be running wide on the first corner exit. Seeing it from that perspective makes me think that Verstappen was too aggressive. He must have known that’s where Hamilton’s car was going to end up.
Yep, you can't expect to go side by side through the chicane like that. Any racing driver would have pushed Verstappen wide after going around the outside there, but it was Max's aggressiveness that meant he didn't know when to back out. To finish first, you first need to finish
The thumbnail shows the racing line and both drivers line. Lewis was just coming out of the pits so he couldn’t get on the race line cause lando was there. Just like silverstone the fault goes to max
@@rossbaillie5973 are you fucking serious how was at silverstone max fault?? He had the exact same line as leclerc and hamilton was closer to max than he was to leclerc.I think this is another level of hatered becouse you should atleast admit that was hamilton fault
Maybe not head, because today's helmets are also marvelous, but neck or spine trauma. Anyway, they are all bad and it gives me chills just to think about it.
bro i subbed to this guy after the grosjean animation before he was even called crashalong, the improvement this channel has showcased is wonderful! keep up the awesome work dude!
Would still love to know why max got the 3 grid penalty. He was squeezed severely from the beginning he had nowhere to go and no room to properly slow down while Hamilton had the entire right side of the road at his disposal to leave space. The FIA needs to stop sucking Toto Wolfe off in the toilets.
should have been 5. imo he got off lightly. he has a very good teacher to show him how to bail out, right next to him each time he lunged at imola, spain and even monza lap 1
Lap 1 turn 4? Verstappen squeezed Hamilton and he had to take the escape route to avoid the contact. Same here but the roles are reversed. What Verstappen do? Press on and makes contact. He add every opportunities to bailout and he CHOOSE not to, knowing full well that this corner was Hamilton's, that the space was closing because Hamilton need to take the corner and the racing was Hamilton's. He was HOPING for Hamilton's coopération and that Hamilton would lift and leave him space Verstappen was not entitled to. He said it himself during the press conf After the race. The choosing the keep turning is the reason for the penality.
You can't squeeze someone if there's no room to begin with unless he moves away from the racing line which he shudnt do. Crashtappen needs to learn that his Dad doesn't own the road. He should've bailed out but he has all or nothing attitude. Lil sh!t that he is. Very dangerous driving
@@niceking12 you sound like someone who has never even driven a car with more that 300 hspwr. I'll make this simple, Hamilton had position by track positioning alone. Max on the other hand was Doing 160+ mph coming into hard braking when Hamilton left the pits and cut him off. Have you ever braked from 160+ into a hard right hand? Probably not. There's not a lot of time for reaction or slowing down even more especially when youre already hatd on the brakes, where as Hamilton wasn't going as fast, had more stability because he wasn't braking as hard and can maneuver better. As for lap 1 turn 4... It's the first lap of f'in Monza. Everyone is fighting for postion. As far as I'm concerned the entire Mercedes team needs to pull their heads out of their asses and especially Hamilton needs to stop driving like a dick. He had no business coming out of pit row at 80kph and try to fight someone/cut them off doing 160+. Let's not forget he almost killed max a couple fucking weeks ago diving the inside line and doing the same exact shit. If I were max I would put Hamilton in the hosptal with a helmet to the side of the fucking face.
@@asaduppal5594 He had one on his helmet might have hurt his shoulders not his head a little if the halo wasn't there but hospital wouldn't have been needed.
@@PM-qi4mh That tyre could have easily snapped his neck or caused an internal decapitation without the halo do you really think Hamilton's head could of withstood the momentum from an F1 car....
Hes always done this, most people just back out and run wide. Same with max tho, probably the two most aggressive drivers in f1 so was always gonna happen
@@TheMirza1707 a very good example of something that the halo could prevented but that was a very different time and very different type of head to wheel contact. FIrstly it was side on, Brundle was very lucky to get away with nothing serious but the possible injuries wouldn't of been the same. Secondly the halo would of elivated that impact completely which with Hamilton is could only reduce the amount of downward force. Thirdly since that incident the headrest was introduced and revised on a number of occasions to help reduce the amount of sidewords head movement in the event of an accident which would of reduced Brundle's head movement yet have no impact on Hamiltons incident. Forth solely to do with Hamilton if the halo wasn't there then its possible the Hans device could of contributed to further injury on the shoulder/chest area if Hamiltons head was pushed down any further and the straps on the Hans device not given way or the Hans device base snapped, they are disigned very strong to stop the head traveling to far from the base of the spin in a high speed accident head on, not to prevent the weight of a car coming down on your head, looking at the angle Hamiltons head was at I'd hazard a guess his neck would of been uncomfortably stretched but luckily nothing serious, when sat in a modern F1 car you head is already leaning forward roughly 40° in relation to your torso, in the photos his head looks to of gone a further 45-60° forward, try it yourself sat on a chair and you'd feel the stretch at the base of you neck.
amazing job! you're a saint. Wanted to mention something -- while you're totally right to say that Hamilton went wide of the normal racing line, he wasn't on the same line as Norris to begin with at the entry to the corner (he couldn't have been without crashing into Max), so his line would naturally be different through the apex and exiting into T2. Everything you've said is factually correct, but reading the comments a lot of people have interpreted this as evidence that Lewis messed up T1, which I don't think is fair. His line into T2 however...... anyways, I know you're not responsible for other people's interpretations, but I thought I'd say something. anyways. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. it's so awesome.
I'm a former racing driver, no Hamilton didn't do anything wrong. Max wasn't ahead on the outside which is necessary to claim a car width. When overtaking on the outside, you need to be ahead to have right to a car width. This rule is often mixed up with the rules for overtake on the inside. When you want to overtake on the inside you just need to have your front wheel alongside your opponents rear wheel to get the right to one car width. And if you are ahead your opponent when overtaking on the inside, then you have the right to racing line, which basically means you can cut off your opponent and he/she has to either back off or take avoiding action. Many fans blame Hamilton for this crash in Monza, eventhough the stewards penalized Verstappen. On the starting lap in corner 4, Hamilton actually was ahead of Max on the outside which means Verstappen had to give one car width but he didn't whereas Hamilton was forced off track avoiding contact. That should also have been penalized.
I just realised; if it hadn't been for Verstappen's rear wheel touching the rear wheel of Hamilton's car, Verstappen might have made the pass work. The wheel touching was the difference between this attempted overtake and other, successful, overtakes at this corner.
After going over the bumps his exit speed would have been compromised for sure, he wouldn't of passed on that corner but I reckon he could have passed him later if he was more patient
Are you kidding, even after this analysis you call it an incident? 3 grid penalty is nothing for what he did, so you can consider he didn't get a penalty.
@@wiehanvanwyk8701 Any person with some brain could see that there wasn't enough space there to pass and it was a deliberate brainless dive on to LH. A deliberate dive that has nothing to do with racing 100%. If it is not enough for you to understand, go and watch lap1 turn 4 incidence. Almost a carbon copy, but this time it was LH who backs off instead of a deliberate mindless dive on to opponent. If it is still not convincing, check the stats of MV, how many times he crashed on to his rivals. He didn't even check Lewis after the crash, guess what a hate he has within.
@@cetinbasoz1030 Racing should be about awesome over takes and risks. He was along side him there was space clearly... Just the curb that caused an issue. You go watch soccer or something boring then
worst is he can't even slow down without taking the sausage kerb (cause of accident)+ wrecking both their wheels/suspension because his wheels are intertwined with hamilton's. He was in a position where space was due to him but hamilton didn't give it, hence he was tributary of hamilton's steering movements. Since hamilton drove him out on the sausage kerb, his car jumped and the crash occured. What is even more astounding is how the stewards issued a penalty to verstappen but not to hamilton, when what hamilton did is a clear infringement of the racing rules. Just as a reminder leclerc did a little squeeze on lflat kerbs to hamilton in 2019 at monza he got a black and white flag, i.e it was deemed as unsportsmanlike behavior. It is mindblowing
Why? Has he ever gives anyone else room? Everyone else went left when in that situation, but Max goes in for the kill to stop Lewis getting more points than him. I really admire his driving skills, but he's becoming like Schumacher with the professional fouls.
@@nitram.9621 Explain lap 1 when verstappen did exactly the same to Hamilton. ...the answer is that once max gives you the squeezed you go over the Kerbs....when max get the squeeze he deserves more space...... ignorance is bliss.
Lewis wanted to force max off by taking a wide line and not giving a lot of space. And Max kept trying to pull of his overtake. 2 drivers both at fault.
He was ahead and gets to chose the line. Those are the rules and stewards applied them. For me looks like he wanted to take out Hamilton. The angle at 1:26 doesn't look right. Max is supposed to turn left in a corner that's going left.
@@maruplay4544 couldn’t turn, the tyres were in the air cause of the high curb…. Why you just comment random stuff when it’s clear that you haven’t watched a single clip of the incident?
@@Carrera2828 of course he knows what he does. It's called racing and when you are overtaking or defending you don't stick to the normal line. Look at the line Verstappen had in lap 1 against Hamilton
Great as always. Please continue making this amazing videos :) I have some different suggesetions. I really liked your Russel-Q3 video, which is different from the previous ones. Maybe it would be interesting if you could also reconstruct some of the most iconic moments in Formula 1 history [in addition to your crash videos]. Here are some suggestions: - Piquet/Senna Overtake → Hungary 1986 - Nigel Mansell Tire Explosion 1986 [from different perspectives such as from behind, onboard, ...] - Schumacher/Hill → 1994 Australia - Jerez 1997 qualifying [lap comparison] - Jerez 1997 → Crash: Schumacher/Villeneuve - Schumacher/Coulthard → Spa 1998 [With and without spray] - Hakkinen/Schumacher Overtake Spa 2000 - The famous final in Brazil in 2008 [For example, lap comparison like in this video between Massa, Hamilton and Glock] - Webber/Alonso Overtake → Eau Rouge 2011 - Vettel/Hamilton Baku 2017 [Vettel hit Hamilton] I also have two ideas for the interesting "what if"-videos: - What if Gasley had collided with Hartley. [Baku 2018] - What if Schumacher had collided with Masepin. [1. Round / Dutch GP 2021]
this is a racing incident, but you cannot just compare a normal racing line to a more defensive racing line. it is racing for a reason, i don't think anyone would let their rival pass by with ease. hamilton took a more defensive line in hopes that max would back out of the attack before turn 2, but instead, max continued to attack and they collided, one could argue that lewis could have been more conservative with his line but that's why it's a racing incident 🤷♂️
Hamilton couldn't take the normal racing line, drivers aren't allowed to move over to the left until they have cleared the white line coming out of the pits and even then if you have to take the inside line to defend you won't be on the standard racing line.
Looking from the top view it's clear that Hamilton didn't give enough space and tried to push him over the bump. And the FiA is never gonna punish LH if it's going to affect the points he earns.
To me it just feels like the FIA typically penalizes the attacking party and changes the narrative to 'fit' depending on the situation. Lewis could have easily left more space as he knew Max didn't have any. Regardless if the FIA rules Max didn't deserve space, that extra steering move on the entry squeezed Max onto the sausage curb ruining it for both of them.
@@madjayax731 He was launched in the air by a sausage curb. Of course he ended up far beyond the apex... With better temp in the tires and more downforce than the Mercedes, I'm pretty sure he would be able to make the corner at that speed. But I do think it would result in a very tight fit for Lewis just after the apex. It would not be a nice fight even if they made it through this corner. Which is why we love these titans battle it out.
That's mega, incredible work in that animation. I guess although Hamilton ran Max wide it was the one defensive move they're allowed. But Lewis definitely gets more aggressive when in combat with Max. Stunning animation, keep up the good work.
I know Hamilton mentioned the tyre hit his head but I never realised by how much. The pov camera from Hamilton is shocking when it pushes his head down. And the slow mo from outside really shows it. Without the halo he would have had no chance. 😬
@@gjb4868 you are valid to your opinion. Just as I am to mine. Thanks for your input. LOL! Sorry that you seem really over sensitive to other people sharing their opinions. 🤣
1. Max was the attacking party (the FIA typically discourages overtakes that could be considered dangerous, regardless of situation). They adapt a narrative accordingly. 2. They penalized Lewis the last time and the FIA's target is to be *considered* fair and unbiased by fans. Not to actually be fair and unbiased. (Which is why they spent so much effort into explaing how it's the same penalty as in Silverstone even though these are totally different situations with different implications). 3. Max's reputation. He didn't make any friends in his first couple of years, but his couple last seasons (despite his clear growth and zero penalty points for about an entire season) British media still depicts him as if he's all about crashing into others. If he were to come off without punishment it would make the FIA look like they are helping him to Hamilton fans. By Hamilton fans Max is called the 'Teflon kid'... because...reasons...presumably. The FIA and F1 are primarily in the industry of selling an experience. They are media companies that have a primary goal of selling. Not an actually fair, but an interesting sport. So they basically have to manage PR with politics. They don't go for the right thing, but for the thing that sells best.
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With this, it looks more like a racing incident. Hamilton was leaning too much into Max and Max's rear tyre had no where else to go. And this makes the FIA claim that Max had no right to racing room when Max is almost fully along side him all the more frustrating.
@@marcyeo8320 wasn't FIA statement is turn 1 braking zone? Or I read it wrong.
@@marcyeo8320 yeah, maybe you should read the steward document. It’s clear: he wasn’t along side Lewis through the majority of the breaking zone. From the onboard you can see he’s behind Lewis by more than a cars length as they pass the breaking zone metre boards. He only get along side him enough during the mid phase Of the corner entry and that’s too late mate. That’s when you concede and try and get them again in the remaining corners over the remaining 20 odd laps. To not yield is just driving into the car ahead. A car on the outside should be along side through the breaking zone, and nearly completely alongside, or ahead even to control the corner. Anything else is just throwing your car into a space where it don’t belong and will collide with the car in front.
i dont know why i imagine crashalong running to his computer and making a animation the second after a wreck happens
Either that or he's like "ahh fuck, got work in the morning"
@@rainey06au yes lol
@@rainey06au more like, let's go, i have work in the morning ahaha
Oh my god…
Because, that’s what he does. 🤷🏽♂️
How in the world are these animations THIS accurate, jesus. I love it
not accurate
@@sam.83 theyre accurate if you watched the race
....and this damn fast 😳❤️
@@sam.83 please explain
No expert but mu guess is telemetry data
This is the stuff the stewards need to make better decisions. I love the fact that you didn't give an opinion in the title. If this work doesn't get you in the picture for F1 I don't know what will. Amazing job.
Maybe in other situations but in this one it was plain to see it was Max's fault, they got it right.
@@zm6301 true max expected Luis to leave room even though he never would’ve max is just a spoiled baby
@@zm6301 This one was not about who was wrong or right. It's about analysis. Now they can make the curve better, because we can both agree that both cobs as wel as this corner are poorly designed.
@@basengelblik5199 ok, but you were talking about the stewards making better decisions and that's what I commented on. Redesigning is another issue and yeah, it could be used for that too I suppose but even then, no turn can be perfect bc it comes down to how drivers approach it, especially side by side as in this case.
@@zm6301 I agree ... all can learn from Alonso. Side by side racing to the max. Practically every driver on the grid should get a lecture from Alonso when they fuck up.
I like how you showed all three driver's lines going into and throughout the turns, that to me is extremely important. Great job!
it also shows how far lewis was off the racing line too pushing max out further.
Absolutely outstanding animation, the accuracy of this guy's work is unsurpassed!
really shows you how insane it was for Max to think he could send it there. like ppl drive like that in F1 Mobile
@@howdareyou41 I don't blame Max. We've seen this before. Neither driver was going to concede that corner. At least nobody went to the hospital this time.
@@nomimalone7520 Max came from behind. It was obvious 5 seconds before what would happen if Max didn't give in. There isn't room there.
@@howdareyou41 he was going 60kph faster than Hamilton. Max is not going to brake that hard, that early, just to file in behind them. 🙄
@@nomimalone7520 ^^this and only this argument nothing more
Being honest , when you started the channel with Romian's crash, I thought that basic solid colour 3D models are the once we are going to get. Still I was excited. Now it's even cooler
FOM should really hire you, this is a very accurate recreation and gives a lot of new angles
shhhh he’ll put Albon out of a job recreating the crashes
@@CristianGarcia-pd9kh @formulagodcomments
The Race already partners with him. Don't worry.
Wild guess but I think The Race might have beat them to the punch.
I'm interested why we need recreations and animations when the real life video recordings that were taken are much clearer and much lot detailed, no room for human error in a recreation when u stick to the source..??
I do hope you're getting paid to do these because you my friend have a brilliant talent in graphic design, and simulation engineering, which could save countless lives in this sport.
The more I watch the more I think this should have been a racing incident, it appears both drivers were being aggressive and contributed equally to the crash.
No, Hamilton was ahead going into turn 1 so he had the right to the line. Then max wanted to force his way in like a child. Max is more at fault for not backing out of a tight spot.
@@hiphop296 by this logic no one should ever attempt to pass on a turn. Lewis could have given him space, but he didn't which is why it's a racing incident.
@@Ivory_GT bruh, there are 100s of different turns in F1, some have different restrictions when it comes to racing. This turn isn't really the easiest to overtake on. Its all about who gets to the turn 1st and picks a line. If Lewis was behind Max when they got to the turn then Ham would be required to give more space. But since Ham got their first and put his car in the turn 1st, he gets to choose the line, and Max needed to understand nobody would.just move aside so he could easily pass. This sam thing happened multiple times in sprint and the race but others knew when to back out unlike Max.
@@hiphop296people did pass on that turn throughout the weekend. You also can't discount that Lewis was coming out of the pits and forced Verstappen wide before the turn. Simply stating the rules is great, but this situation is more nuanced than that.
@@Ivory_GT yes I'm aware multiple overtake happened on this turn. But all of them were under different circumstances. Thats thr whole point. It all depends on the circumstances.
Even with halo, the tyre is still making contact with the helmet, I don't even want to imagine without halo
The floor of the car would have hit him. Would have been much worse.
If anything, the wheel is making contact with the helmet DUE to the halo, which allowed Verstappen to drive on Hamilton's halo.
@@ventisette. It wouldn't have since it was blocked by the roll bar.
@@Spyker8921 what do you mean by allowed? My point of view is that the wheel didn't put as much force on the helmet and just had contact with it because the wheel and car itself was being supported by the halo.
@@jovenc.1290 Without the halo, there's a chance the wheel would have been up in the air and Verstappen's car stuck there. But the halo allowed his car to roll down Lewis' car because the halo gave grip to the right rear wheel.
always factual and never biased, with animation improving in realism everytime, well done!
Dude, find a way to sell your services to F1, I'd love to see these used in the crash analysis videos they do. It's almost like an air crash investigation.
I definitely agree
Like soccer, the organizations are not interested on the truth of events, they only want the results that give them more money (midiatic strategy).
Maybe the broadcaster to help their consultant debriefing the crash
@@ryche.rising I came here to make the same remark. The animations would leave no room for politics.
@@adamgibson9357 you clearly haven’t seen how controversial VAR is in the premier league then.
Seems to be a reoccurring theme of Lewis running wide when he's near Max
Seems to be reoccurring theme that Max sees to forget that cars don't ghost in real life like f1 game.
@@my2cents366 max always want and expects everyone to do what he never does
Right, running wide in a one lane S-curve or how about Max attempting wildly to pass when there was zero space to pass, but he was going hell or high water, how about that?
Guy wins a couple of races all of a sudden he elevate to the level of the grat ones?
It's called defending your race line, you that make it hard for you to be passed its called professional race car driving. they make books on that you might want to pick one up and understand what is happening. Not everything is evil.
You haven't the first clue about defending do you
As soon as the crash Happaned I was looking for crashalong to come up with this kind of animation.. Wow you guys are superb.
This makes for way better insight into what exactly happened. Great job!
Absolutely mind-blowing
Exactly, that is was clearly Hamiltons decision to collide...
@@adirkse oh hell yes
@The Stranger They have Max's nuts covering their eyes what do you expect
@The Stranger Exactly, Verstappen was clearly enraged by his pit stop and that caused him to be irrational thinking that Hamilton would allow him to overtake in that corner. He should’ve used the run off, he knew what would happen if he didn’t. The stewards made the right call
You make these so fast and really well, this really shows how dangerous that crash was.
The severity is still a point of debate. Without the halo, lethal. With it, barely a tap. I think this whole thing is being blown out of proportion to such an extent, that racing is becoming impossible.
@@SwirlingSoul Probably not a death, but enough of an injury to put Ham out for at least 2 races.
@@SwirlingSoul are you kidding? The G.O.A.T could have been decapitated by a reckless Max Crashtappen.
@@justinrockmore327 Yeah it weirds me out that people can not see the back wheel clearly land on his head then push it forward. I guess the thought process is Max's entire car weight is equivalent to a single sheet of paper?
@@justinrockmore327 Hamilton offcourse could predict that when he turned in he would put his life in danger like that.
I can't believe how fast you bring out such amazing videos! F1 should hire you for their "all the angles" videos xD
That accuracy is INSANE!!! You even animated the head-nod of Hamilton 🤯🤯
It was a racing incident imo. Verstappen started the overtaking manouver very late, but at the second corner Lewis should have left more space, because Verstappen was already alongisde him. So I think it's unfair to penalize Max for this one.
My thoughts exactly. If anyone should be penalized it should be the driver who failed to leave space. But the move was so late it's hard to fault Hamilton. Penalizing Max just seems absurd to me, I think it's his comment on the radio that drew the penalty tbh
Atleast, here is someone talking sensibly. Also, why doesn't anyone talk about his entry onto the track where he moved right across Max's path? Max also left the racing line
The late overly optimistic move is what deserved to be punished, & was punished.
Max could've gone on the run off. He went into the corner too fast to properly overtake. Hamilton had no reason to give him room, just like Max didn't give him room on lap 1 turn 4 despite Hamilton actually being alongside him then.
no, Max went in way to shallow instead of taking the wider line and that is why he ran wide. Lewis left just enough room to have squeezed his car in just like Giovinazzi on lap 1 did.
These crash animations are so much more informative even than watching onboard footage. It's amazing how you get the smallest details. Awesome work!
This is the hardest the halo has ever been used in a season you know. There was Imola with russel and bottas, and now Monza
Grosbeak reading this like 👁👄👁
@@laurencehodson_ Ah yes Romain GROSBEAK
Don’t forget about Norris in Spa and Max in silverstone,
@@Hibernathan05 the halo didnt need to do anything in those crashes
@@dylanwest4265 Except it definitely did, as the cars went deep into the shock absorbing barrier the Halo shielded the drivers head from the enveloping barrier.
Makes clear that Hamilton needs the penalty, not Verstappen.
This comment makes a lot clear. You are biased towards Verstappen and can't accept when he is in the wrong. Which; by the way, is every time he gets near Lewis and tries to shove him off the track.
@@johnhughes9276 Haha, the opposit is the case…Talking about biased….
I think it's the best video so far about this accident.
Hamilton and Verstappen are keeping Crashalong busy! Great work.
So Hamilton went wide to block an in race car hurtling at twice his speed. OK. He could have followed same racing line as Lando and still kept a fair outcome, instead he forced max to take the penalty line and that was never going to happen.
He did that to try to force max to back out earlier once he saw he wasn't going to make it, but max doesn't back out so they crashed
It’s called defending an overtake, you don’t just follow a racing line and make way for a faster car. That’s just not how racing works
@@santaccccccc How can u defend an overtake when you have just changed the tyres? You just cant, you dont have the speed yet
@@santaccccccc your not defending an overtake, your going at half speed jumping into high speed lane, effectively you are blocking an overtake...by forcing other car off the road.
@@paulrodrigues5562 you know it was way more than half speed.
"Hi Michael, I have just sent you an email"......(about recommending crash along to replace your whole stewart panel)
Simple answer: remove that 3 place penalty.
Yes that should be 5 or more.
@@cetinbasoz1030 for King Louie ?
@@Jodocus1000 for crashtappen💀
@@Jodocus1000 Crashteppen - I like that
Everytime a wreck happens I just keep refreshing the crash along channel
Hamilton definitely squeezed him out. Verstappen should have known that’s what Hamilton would do. I don’t think this deserved a penalty. Verstappen could have backed off and tried another move around curve grande into Roggia or later in the race.
Indeed...just like Verstappen would do if he was on the inside. They both don't want to give the other room anymore.
@@ronaldjouster6929 yes, the only thing here was when you are on the outside you have to be full alongside or ahead a little to be entitled to space. Max wasn't that's why he received the penalty
@@maruplay4544
You are correct...i'm a Dutchman and i like Max to win, but this was not a correct overtake. But i understand that he tried...it just didn't work. It was also a bit of a weird accident, you would expect that maybe Max destroyed his front wing or something. I think Max just gained the most of taking them both out. And that penalty isn't that severe in Russia.
But i would like to see that Max and Lewis didn't crash that much...it's a bit annoying
@@ronaldjouster6929 same here. I am supporting Hamilton, between the two, my favourite being Gasly. I wouldn't mind Verstappen winning as long as it's clean racing but this has to stop, it's becoming ridiculous
Outstanding job!
Tbh I came to the comment section with popcorn ready, but I guess everyone is just amazed at the quality of this video. Keep it up!
How has F1 not offered you a job yet. Would love to watch these on F1TV with analyst commentary.
Because they couldn't control how things go and make changes like they wish, information would be too precise.
@@Toastburro I’m sure they could work something out if there was enough interest. Think of the potential value these animations have for teams too. And with a bigger budget…
because they prefer shit content
FIA ego🤣🤣
so concluding: it was a great attempt by VER to pass HAM in the chicane; it was a great attempt by HAM to squeeze VER to try and block him; when VERs car would not have hit the curb they would have both made the corner and we would have seen a spectacular F1 action, whoever would have come out first.
I don't think VER would have hit the apex of the 2nd corner with his speed, I belive he would have blocked HAM just to stay in front.
I think it would have been a bit like Hamilton and Verstappen in Imola with Verstappen on the receiving end.
IMHO this is another examply why sausage kerbs should be banned.
without it Max' car wouldn't have been yeeted into Hamilton.
it was a poor attempt from max. he should have taken the escape as soon as it was obvious he was going over the kerbs
@@TheTororist he was already passed the escape road by the time Lewis started squeezing more.
0:36 I think this view shows that they were both clearly along side each other and more space should have been given
The space Max gave at Lap1 turn 3?
Max isn't even at Hamilton's back wheel at 0:36...
Hamilton was following the race line he had No obligation to give any room to verstappen.
@@viniciusbraga9881 who doesn’t deserve this level of fairness? Max or Lewis
@@viniciusbraga9881 I agree.
So they blamed verstappen? Hamilton run wide and didnt leave him space
max was never making that corner and chose to go over the kerbs instead of the escape. and going by lap 1 in multilpe race, its amazing max fans cant see the hypocrisy of saying lewis shouldnt have squeezed him
@@TheTororist you have a problem with your eyes or are you just a hamilton fanboy?
@@pmvdmeulen Ur Dutch lmao you can’t talk about bias or fanboy lmao
@@pirozigzigwam8594 you're a fan of sir Crashilton.. that's okay.. but he's just a posterboy and not a real racer.
@@TheTororist Indeed, at 1:13 HAM started to make sure of that.
It is obvious hamilton is blocking him off at T2 to and dared max to come abeam. Looking at the lines on the track its obvious who isnt in the racing line but cutting the other off
Yeah verstappen is nowhere near the racing line if you look at where norris is through the same corners.
it's called defending. Alonso did such moves against Hamilton in Hungary, Charles did it against Perez, heck even VERSTAPPEN did it in lap 1 against Hamilton at turn 4. This hypocrisy of when anyone but Hamilton does it against him, it's good defending, suddenly when Hamilton does it it's called blocking.
Hamilton doing a good job after exiting pit lane squeezed Max to outside that's a racing tactic. Problems here Max don't want to backup off
@@espa_navismy8169 After what happened on Silverstone and Hungaroring you wouldn't too. And as you can see Hamilton had no intention to back of as well but in fact squeezed even harder while inside the chicane. Not the first stupid move he made this season but in this occasion he almost managed to kill himself as he forgot to calculate where Max would land this time after being launched.
@@espa_navismy8169 Once thing Max isn't particularly good is controlling his car after motor-crossing a kerb. He did it to Hamilton at Imola, Spain, Monza. Hamilton just did to him once and he threw his car already.
I think it should be mandatory for the stewards to watch Crashalong footage before doling out penalties. Great job!
It was Lewis fault. FIA is clearly favoring him.
Thank you for the top-down view of the corner as they go through the middle of the chicane. Super helpful with forming a complete opinion.
Agree specially after I've seen the REGULAR line that Norris took vs lh line. Which means lh did PURPOSELY going out of his way to block Max. And still no penalty for lh...
@@DawidNaudeIrishSettler but that’s racing…
You’d wanna drive off the track to let the driver behind through?
It’s called defense. Every single driver in f1 when there are defending, deviates from the normal racing line.
@@DawidNaudeIrishSettler You should see Max dive bombing Danny in sprint race.
Dang! That trajectory is accurate and we can see from Norris's orange line that Hamilton squeezed Max and eventually this happened.
Having seen this, I don’t understand why VER was given a grid penalty over the incident. HAM did squeeze VER, not by a lot, and VER did try to stay left except he could have used the runoff instead.
So just treat it as a racing incident?
Because the move was never really on
As per Chris Smith and also adding as you state he could have used the runoff but chose not as he didn't want to have to give back the position.
I think the decision was a good one.
Not a big Hamilton fan.
I like the battle between these guys but they need to calm a bit otherwise they r going to kill eachother and that will be a huge shame and catastrophe
They were alongside, the move was clearly on
@@hugoporras3162 Verstappen was nowhere near alongside in the braking zone or at corner entry. It was nothing more than a desperate lunge with literally no chance of coming off.
@@chrissmith-wb6st have you even seen the video? Verstappen brakes esrlier than anyone and Hamilton moves slightly under braking (which he cant) because he would have lost the position directly
The word 'Halo' is in Crashalong. Coincidence? I think not
Wow, great job! They should indeed ask you to make these videos BEFORE deciding what penalty would be accurate. I am a Max fan, and I thought: "ok Max is irritated and shows some immature behaviour after a long time again..." Now seeing this, I think: "Lewis went too far to the left after leaving the pitlane and also in the corner did not leave Max any space - did not go to the right at all, pushed him even further to the left. In conclusion, Max is the winner of the weekend with two extra points and FIA should withdrawal the penalty for Sochi.
Use your imagination, look how hot Max is coming in, look at the angle of his car at the apex, even if Lewis disappeared Max is not making that corner with out using the whole track... therefore leaving anyspace for Lewis on the exit was not even in Max's equation. To say was an aggressive move would be underselling it.
@@snorkman2 sorry, but using some 'imagination' just don't cut it. The fact's are more important. Its clear to see that Hamilton uses another raceline then what he normaly uses with all previous rounds he's been driven. He's trying to defend wich is his good right. Only problem is that Verstappen who is driving a bit behind, but longside him before the actual corner (you can only defend if your opponent is behind you. If he is nòt you must give him space) So Hamilton is obliged to give him enough space, which he did not... Further more,
I dont now if you have any driving experience. If so, one of the things you'll learn is to look in front and ahead when driving. Where talking about the currently 2 best drivers of the planet. On this level, almost nothing is an coincidence. There is just to much at stake for those 2 so both made some decisions what they normaly didn't do. They are both right ànd wrong. It should be signed off as an race accident. Nothing more, nothing lees...
@@doargietweitervandah i do know the guy in front has vision through small mirrors and the guy behind can see exactly what's happening, my 'opinion' is Max made amateur error and worked out good for him this time.
@@snorkman2 Oh i see. It looks that you are an Hamilton fan. Therefore you can't make an honest jugdment OR opinion. But that's ok. Let me help you by giving you a link. Then you'll see wat actualy happend. Fact's don't lie.
Therefore it was an race accident and must be treated as such. The one really is to blame is FIAA.
ua-cam.com/video/rbU_iUIay3w/v-deo.html
Btw. Verstappen didn't make an error. He has chosen to keeping the foot on the pedal. Fact is that he makes it to the corner, but Lewis choose to get wide. So both must live with the consequences. Also FIA is biased as funk, so ofcourse Verstappen recieves an more heavy punishment than Lewis at Silverstone. But i guess its all to do with money/betting (me noticing there were some deadbeat broke celebrity's that day) who all putting there last coin on Hamilton for shure...
@@doargietweitervandah I hate Hamilton, I'm am a Riccardio fan, and Max did Daniel a favour taking Hamilton out, because I am sure Hamilton was going to be too quick on the mediums to hold off and would have likely won the race.
My point is Max stuffed up and it worked out ok for him, you can't blame a sausage curb... it was always there... he knew it was there... and he did it anyway.
ill never know how you make these animations so damn accurate and so quick. like god damn
Underrated Channel. You should have more subscribers for sure.
I'm still angry about Verstappen getting a 3 place grid penalty for this, this is so unfair Hamilton barely gave him any space
Did Max give Hamilton space at Turn 4 lap 1? Hmm. You get what you served.
@@madjayax731 Max was clearly in front there and he gave Lewis just enough space. Lewis didn't gave space to Max at all and Max was already in the corner along side Lewis. They both race hard and this is what you get. Both could have done more but its not only the fault of Max..
@@dyon5152 The missing crash recipe at Turn 4 lap 1 is the driver on the aggressor choose to back-off, but the aggressor at Turn 1 Lap 26 choose not to. You can see the pattern.
On cold tires Hamilton gave Norris room in the first lap. With Verstappen he squeezed him onto the curb. Exact same situation, different line. Hamilton turned into Verstappen. They crashed him from the track 3 times now, hardly getting a penalty. FIA really wants Hamilton to take Schumacher's record to prove f1 isn't white. So sickening. Hamilton is just a posterboy.
Then Verstappen clearly needs to learn how to pick his passing points on track better, rather then bomb it in and hope for the best. If Verstappen had more patience and race craft, he'd have more then a 5 point lead over Hamilton right now, when Hamilton has only 4 race wins to Verstappens 7 this season.
The Halo was a mistake 😔😂👍
Exceeding track limits is when all 4 wheels are over the white line, which never happened with Verstappen. Therefore, both drivers must have been considered on the track and contact was only made because of the positioning of the ridiculous sausage kerbs.
agreed, the sausage kerbs can be terribly dangerous and Monza already proved that TWICE.
@@Hirosjimma i know im really late but monza in general is heavily flawed
LH is not driving well this year and that is why he constantly opening himself up to these opportunities.
Same thing for MV, they are both to aggressive this season. I want to see fair and more accurate driving from them.
@@kevswrld7117 Fair from Verstappen. Not going to happen.
@@DoctorAustin That's not an excuse. You can't just say "well Max is aggressive so everyone needs to move out if his way". There's rules for a reason.
@@9999AWC I was being sarcastic. I think we're on the same page.
Can we just admire how good the suspension is.
That angle and way the tire went on/off the top with nothing broken, and all the deflection,(and off of H’s helmet).
Nice animation and also the text “ Hamilton went of his race line and go more wide” then normale needed makes clear for me that when someone made a mistake it is Hamilton who did this by purpose
Not really. He was not able to go full left on the straight to cut the corner in a normal way, hence why he had to take it more wide.
Like SR said, He was not on the Racine line and had to take a wider turn. He could have taken an even wider turn and make contact with Verstappen, like Verstappen did with him I turn 4 on lap 1, but he left enough room for Verstappen to bailout. Verstappen could not have made the turn in any case because Hamilton was entitled to take the racing line of the next corner, and Another driver would have take the escape route. But no. Verstappen was ambitious to say the least.
@@pascalabessolo5350 in other words verstappen was bullishly stupid as is so often the case. Plus he was pissed off from a poor pitstop, being stuck by lando, and then knowing he would end up behind Lewis after the exit of turn 2, instead of positioning so he could use effective slipstream for the exit going to the next set of corners he tries to force his way down the non existent inside that was always closing on him. If every driver used his logic then no driver would defend the inside they would just let whoever was close behind them going into the corner go through and overtake.
Just as it is on the road it is on the track, if you are the driver behind you are considered at fault for not reacting to the car ahead and crashing into them.
This animation has obviously taken real work but once again is biased in favour of verstappen seemingly putting him further forward than he actually was going into turn 2, but even with the bias it still shows that the only logical choice for verstappen going into turn 2 was to use the run off area like he forced Lewis to do on the first lap. The accident lays firmly and solely on verstappen's shoulders. The stewards wording on the penalty actually reads that there was basically nothing to suggest it wasn't solely verstappen's fault, so the penalty and points on the licence seem quite lenient to be honest.
@@pascalabessolo5350 nah, Hamilton left som racing room for Verstappen and he took it, then Hamilton closed it and by then it was too late for him to go anywhere else. Racing incident. Thats what happened, for any unbiased person atleast.
You are in no way on earth just a random guy doing animations. You definitely have proper expensive equipment and is highly skilled to do such an accurate animation/recreation.
F1 needs to hire you!
Watching this I'm not sure I can see where Mercedes expected Max to go after they'd gone through the first part of the chicane. He couldn't exactly make the car disappear and the sausage kerb was only ever going to spear him into Lewis if he turned left
The exist road Like Hamilton did in lap 1?
@@EinfachnurItax360 Hamilton was more alongside Verstappen at the beginning of turn 4 on lap 1 than the later in that instance, and still he took the escape route because you know, don't want to crash..
@@pascalabessolo5350 he was even ahead in imola but still bailed out instead of going full kamikaze. heck, daniel showed exactly what max should have done in the sprint race lap 1 against max himself. im, sorry but this entitled method of driving will only lead to more crashes
@@pascalabessolo5350 Max closed the door much earlier. Lewis left a gap and only started squeezing after Max already was passed the escape road. Others call it being "fair", I call it being "indecisive". Either leave room or don't, but not this halfway attempt.
@@bernhardtlouw3525 Lewis couldn't force Max wider at Turn 1, without drawing some questions from the stewards. Plus the Stewards were correct, Max attempted a really dangerous Move into one of the tightest Chicanes on the Racing Circuit. There really isn't room for 2 cars side by side..it has always ended in a collision, when drivers attempt it.
So Lewis did agressively stay of the ideal Line and stayed left. Hmmm interesting. So it was not Just the fault of Max but a racing incident
The only completely factual and impartial video you will find on this subject
Good job
Halo needs to be higher up after this incident, still could have died due to the tire hitting LH in the head, or atleast change a bit for more safety
The halo will definitely evolve season after season, but at this current stage it has already done wonders 👏🏻👏🏻
Well, we still have to consider the minimum time for a driver to get out of the car. A higher halo would make it more difficult, but I agree that it should be looked at
The tyer did hit Lewis but because of the halo it just touched Lewis's helmet but if the halo wasn't there it would've have been more worse
Yea, or the halo need to be tighter on top
If it happens with Charles Leclerc it could be more serious because his head (for some reason) is above the halo
Unreal, better than official f1
That over head shot and the positioning of the cars is an eye opener. Hamilton’s shallower entry angle meant he’d always be running wide on the first corner exit. Seeing it from that perspective makes me think that Verstappen was too aggressive. He must have known that’s where Hamilton’s car was going to end up.
Yep, you can't expect to go side by side through the chicane like that. Any racing driver would have pushed Verstappen wide after going around the outside there, but it was Max's aggressiveness that meant he didn't know when to back out. To finish first, you first need to finish
That was incredible. Thank you! I watched it live but this animation puts it in the perfect perspective..
All imma say is….if this is a penalty, the one at silverstone was a penalty. I’m a lando fan so I’m not picking a side. I’m just after consistency
And both were a penalty as per the stewards
The thumbnail shows the racing line and both drivers line. Lewis was just coming out of the pits so he couldn’t get on the race line cause lando was there. Just like silverstone the fault goes to max
@@rossbaillie5973 are you fucking serious how was at silverstone max fault?? He had the exact same line as leclerc and hamilton was closer to max than he was to leclerc.I think this is another level of hatered becouse you should atleast admit that was hamilton fault
@@aliu67 both could’ve left more space, either both are penalties, or neither is
@@rossbaillie5973 if Italy was a pen to max, England was a pen to Lewis. Either both are, or neither is
Hamilton and Verstappen crashes.. CrashAlong be like : Yess Yess Ohhhh Yessssss😂
Btw awesome video @CRASHALONG....
CrashAlong and Valteri Bottas
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Crahalong Sees Ver and Ham crash: Oh No!
Also Crashalong: Anyway, time to get views
@@chris_2208 And that little girl meme, standing in the background of a burning house, with a smirk on her face
Conclusion;
Without the halo Lewis would of suffered serve head trauma.
Called fatality
Maybe not head, because today's helmets are also marvelous, but neck or spine trauma. Anyway, they are all bad and it gives me chills just to think about it.
That would be better....
@@Dutchy1979 Seriously..
@@luizarthurbrito called death
bro i subbed to this guy after the grosjean animation before he was even called crashalong, the improvement this channel has showcased is wonderful! keep up the awesome work dude!
The amount of details in this is incredible
Would still love to know why max got the 3 grid penalty. He was squeezed severely from the beginning he had nowhere to go and no room to properly slow down while Hamilton had the entire right side of the road at his disposal to leave space. The FIA needs to stop sucking Toto Wolfe off in the toilets.
should have been 5. imo he got off lightly. he has a very good teacher to show him how to bail out, right next to him each time he lunged at imola, spain and even monza lap 1
Cz FiAMG
Lap 1 turn 4? Verstappen squeezed Hamilton and he had to take the escape route to avoid the contact.
Same here but the roles are reversed. What Verstappen do? Press on and makes contact. He add every opportunities to bailout and he CHOOSE not to, knowing full well that this corner was Hamilton's, that the space was closing because Hamilton need to take the corner and the racing was Hamilton's. He was HOPING for Hamilton's coopération and that Hamilton would lift and leave him space Verstappen was not entitled to.
He said it himself during the press conf After the race.
The choosing the keep turning is the reason for the penality.
You can't squeeze someone if there's no room to begin with unless he moves away from the racing line which he shudnt do. Crashtappen needs to learn that his Dad doesn't own the road. He should've bailed out but he has all or nothing attitude. Lil sh!t that he is. Very dangerous driving
@@niceking12 you sound like someone who has never even driven a car with more that 300 hspwr. I'll make this simple, Hamilton had position by track positioning alone. Max on the other hand was Doing 160+ mph coming into hard braking when Hamilton left the pits and cut him off. Have you ever braked from 160+ into a hard right hand? Probably not. There's not a lot of time for reaction or slowing down even more especially when youre already hatd on the brakes, where as Hamilton wasn't going as fast, had more stability because he wasn't braking as hard and can maneuver better. As for lap 1 turn 4... It's the first lap of f'in Monza. Everyone is fighting for postion. As far as I'm concerned the entire Mercedes team needs to pull their heads out of their asses and especially Hamilton needs to stop driving like a dick. He had no business coming out of pit row at 80kph and try to fight someone/cut them off doing 160+. Let's not forget he almost killed max a couple fucking weeks ago diving the inside line and doing the same exact shit. If I were max I would put Hamilton in the hosptal with a helmet to the side of the fucking face.
OMG! What a analysis. It's a racing incident.
Can you simulate what would’ve happened if the halo system wasn’t in place on the car
Wowww!!!! I'm blown by the sheer accuracy of this guy's crash recreation!!! Damn brilliant!!!! 🤩🤩🤩
Awesome job... seems so accurate it barely leaves room for debate
Damn. Impressive. Also, the Halo keeps proving itself. Without that thing we may have lost Lewis. Unreal.
Highly likely it saved Max at Silverstone but Lewis at Monza? Hypochondriac?
@@PM-qi4mh He had a tyre on his head mate.
@@asaduppal5594 He had one on his helmet might have hurt his shoulders not his head a little if the halo wasn't there but hospital wouldn't have been needed.
@@PM-qi4mh He had a tyre on his head mate
@@PM-qi4mh That tyre could have easily snapped his neck or caused an internal decapitation without the halo do you really think Hamilton's head could of withstood the momentum from an F1 car....
I would love to see a brief video of how you go about making one of these! That would be super entertaining to me.
I agree-it would be fascinating!
love the animation must take a lot of time!
This is so amazing! You do an excellent job of making it very clear...! Thank you 👍👍👍
Yes! I’ve been waiting for crashalong to upload it
Lewis goes volontary wide, it's his fault.
Hes always done this, most people just back out and run wide. Same with max tho, probably the two most aggressive drivers in f1 so was always gonna happen
Without the halo, Lewix could die. I'm glad he is ok
You really stepped up your game!
What i would find interesting would be a simulation without the Halo™️ on Lewis car.
I don't think it takes much to understand the outcome of that
@@MrCourty89 neck break
@@MrCourty89 I'm not so sure ua-cam.com/video/1imC4RvJg80/v-deo.html
@@rampage1306 I'm not so sure ua-cam.com/video/1imC4RvJg80/v-deo.html
@@TheMirza1707 a very good example of something that the halo could prevented but that was a very different time and very different type of head to wheel contact.
FIrstly it was side on, Brundle was very lucky to get away with nothing serious but the possible injuries wouldn't of been the same. Secondly the halo would of elivated that impact completely which with Hamilton is could only reduce the amount of downward force. Thirdly since that incident the headrest was introduced and revised on a number of occasions to help reduce the amount of sidewords head movement in the event of an accident which would of reduced Brundle's head movement yet have no impact on Hamiltons incident. Forth solely to do with Hamilton if the halo wasn't there then its possible the Hans device could of contributed to further injury on the shoulder/chest area if Hamiltons head was pushed down any further and the straps on the Hans device not given way or the Hans device base snapped, they are disigned very strong to stop the head traveling to far from the base of the spin in a high speed accident head on, not to prevent the weight of a car coming down on your head, looking at the angle Hamiltons head was at I'd hazard a guess his neck would of been uncomfortably stretched but luckily nothing serious, when sat in a modern F1 car you head is already leaning forward roughly 40° in relation to your torso, in the photos his head looks to of gone a further 45-60° forward, try it yourself sat on a chair and you'd feel the stretch at the base of you neck.
this is great. Big thank you!
amazing job! you're a saint. Wanted to mention something -- while you're totally right to say that Hamilton went wide of the normal racing line, he wasn't on the same line as Norris to begin with at the entry to the corner (he couldn't have been without crashing into Max), so his line would naturally be different through the apex and exiting into T2. Everything you've said is factually correct, but reading the comments a lot of people have interpreted this as evidence that Lewis messed up T1, which I don't think is fair. His line into T2 however......
anyways, I know you're not responsible for other people's interpretations, but I thought I'd say something. anyways. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. it's so awesome.
So hamilton basically tried to cut him off? alright sick
Just like max did lap1 and imola and Spain
Thats what run off area is for. Use it like LH did lap one
No , he didn't try to cut him off, if the sausage curb wasn't there that wouldn't have happened.
I'm a former racing driver, no Hamilton didn't do anything wrong.
Max wasn't ahead on the outside which is necessary to claim a car width.
When overtaking on the outside, you need to be ahead to have right to a car width. This rule is often mixed up with the rules for overtake on the inside.
When you want to overtake on the inside you just need to have your front wheel alongside your opponents rear wheel to get the right to one car width.
And if you are ahead your opponent when overtaking on the inside, then you have the right to racing line, which basically means you can cut off your opponent and he/she has to either back off or take avoiding action.
Many fans blame Hamilton for this crash in Monza, eventhough the stewards penalized Verstappen.
On the starting lap in corner 4, Hamilton actually was ahead of Max on the outside which means Verstappen had to give one car width but he didn't whereas Hamilton was forced off track avoiding contact. That should also have been penalized.
I just realised; if it hadn't been for Verstappen's rear wheel touching the rear wheel of Hamilton's car, Verstappen might have made the pass work. The wheel touching was the difference between this attempted overtake and other, successful, overtakes at this corner.
After going over the bumps his exit speed would have been compromised for sure, he wouldn't of passed on that corner but I reckon he could have passed him later if he was more patient
Great video
But can't see why Max gets a penalty, it looks like just a racing incident.
Are you kidding, even after this analysis you call it an incident? 3 grid penalty is nothing for what he did, so you can consider he didn't get a penalty.
@@cetinbasoz1030 If it wasn't for the curb it would just be 2 tires touching. Racing incident 100%
@@wiehanvanwyk8701 Any person with some brain could see that there wasn't enough space there to pass and it was a deliberate brainless dive on to LH. A deliberate dive that has nothing to do with racing 100%. If it is not enough for you to understand, go and watch lap1 turn 4 incidence. Almost a carbon copy, but this time it was LH who backs off instead of a deliberate mindless dive on to opponent. If it is still not convincing, check the stats of MV, how many times he crashed on to his rivals. He didn't even check Lewis after the crash, guess what a hate he has within.
@@cetinbasoz1030 Racing should be about awesome over takes and risks. He was along side him there was space clearly... Just the curb that caused an issue. You go watch soccer or something boring then
@@wiehanvanwyk8701 no There wasn’t space. Watch it again. Being awesome doesn’t mean deliberate crashes on to others. Other cars are not ghosts
We are here before 1mill Views 💯.
SUPERB video. 👍
That halo, tho'. . .
Brilliant work.
Max would of had to come to a near complete stop. I think he deserves room here...
worst is he can't even slow down without taking the sausage kerb (cause of accident)+ wrecking both their wheels/suspension because his wheels are intertwined with hamilton's. He was in a position where space was due to him but hamilton didn't give it, hence he was tributary of hamilton's steering movements. Since hamilton drove him out on the sausage kerb, his car jumped and the crash occured.
What is even more astounding is how the stewards issued a penalty to verstappen but not to hamilton, when what hamilton did is a clear infringement of the racing rules. Just as a reminder leclerc did a little squeeze on lflat kerbs to hamilton in 2019 at monza he got a black and white flag, i.e it was deemed as unsportsmanlike behavior. It is mindblowing
1:13 I didn't realize how Hamilton was forcing Max off the track before even getting to turn 1.
Why? Has he ever gives anyone else room?
Everyone else went left when in that situation, but Max goes in for the kill to stop Lewis getting more points than him.
I really admire his driving skills, but he's becoming like Schumacher with the professional fouls.
@@garyrowe58 he had racing room, Hamilton closed it and by then it was too late.
@@nitram.9621 Explain lap 1 when verstappen did exactly the same to Hamilton. ...the answer is that once max gives you the squeezed you go over the Kerbs....when max get the squeeze he deserves more space...... ignorance is bliss.
Lewis wanted to force max off by taking a wide line and not giving a lot of space. And Max kept trying to pull of his overtake. 2 drivers both at fault.
Hamilton missed the appex... again...
But Sir, he is black! So he is in Right!!!
He was ahead and gets to chose the line. Those are the rules and stewards applied them. For me looks like he wanted to take out Hamilton. The angle at 1:26 doesn't look right. Max is supposed to turn left in a corner that's going left.
@@maruplay4544 couldn’t turn, the tyres were in the air cause of the high curb…. Why you just comment random stuff when it’s clear that you haven’t watched a single clip of the incident?
@@Antares-vj7su i agree! Look at the different line of hamilton in this lap! He knows exactly what he do! Hamilton is a crying baby
@@Carrera2828 of course he knows what he does. It's called racing and when you are overtaking or defending you don't stick to the normal line. Look at the line Verstappen had in lap 1 against Hamilton
Very good as always, keep it up
Great as always. Please continue making this amazing videos :)
I have some different suggesetions. I really liked your Russel-Q3 video, which is different from the previous ones. Maybe it would be interesting if you could also reconstruct some of the most iconic moments in Formula 1 history [in addition to your crash videos]. Here are some suggestions:
- Piquet/Senna Overtake → Hungary 1986
- Nigel Mansell Tire Explosion 1986 [from different perspectives such as from behind, onboard, ...]
- Schumacher/Hill → 1994 Australia
- Jerez 1997 qualifying [lap comparison]
- Jerez 1997 → Crash: Schumacher/Villeneuve
- Schumacher/Coulthard → Spa 1998 [With and without spray]
- Hakkinen/Schumacher Overtake Spa 2000
- The famous final in Brazil in 2008 [For example, lap comparison like in this video between Massa, Hamilton and Glock]
- Webber/Alonso Overtake → Eau Rouge 2011
- Vettel/Hamilton Baku 2017 [Vettel hit Hamilton]
I also have two ideas for the interesting "what if"-videos:
- What if Gasley had collided with Hartley. [Baku 2018]
- What if Schumacher had collided with Masepin. [1. Round / Dutch GP 2021]
This proves it's always Hamilton's fault taking the wrong racing line with a driver alongside,
Racing incident
this is a racing incident, but you cannot just compare a normal racing line to a more defensive racing line. it is racing for a reason, i don't think anyone would let their rival pass by with ease. hamilton took a more defensive line in hopes that max would back out of the attack before turn 2, but instead, max continued to attack and they collided, one could argue that lewis could have been more conservative with his line but that's why it's a racing incident 🤷♂️
Hamilton couldn't take the normal racing line, drivers aren't allowed to move over to the left until they have cleared the white line coming out of the pits and even then if you have to take the inside line to defend you won't be on the standard racing line.
What line are you talking about? I doubt you even watched the race
@@vHiddenAce he did wait for the white line or he would have been penalised.
Wow! Great job, very accurate. it was Hamilton’s fault. These graphics are amazing.
If here is Hamilton's fault then Verstappen is guilty for lap1 t4, imola, spain...
Looking from the top view it's clear that Hamilton didn't give enough space and tried to push him over the bump. And the FiA is never gonna punish LH if it's going to affect the points he earns.
Also looking even if max was alone this corner at that speed he is going off track
@@dominicbeltz9057 Max would never made the corner is sure thing hence why his car was long long away from the appex after they collided.
To me it just feels like the FIA typically penalizes the attacking party and changes the narrative to 'fit' depending on the situation. Lewis could have easily left more space as he knew Max didn't have any. Regardless if the FIA rules Max didn't deserve space, that extra steering move on the entry squeezed Max onto the sausage curb ruining it for both of them.
@@madjayax731 He was launched in the air by a sausage curb. Of course he ended up far beyond the apex...
With better temp in the tires and more downforce than the Mercedes, I'm pretty sure he would be able to make the corner at that speed. But I do think it would result in a very tight fit for Lewis just after the apex. It would not be a nice fight even if they made it through this corner. Which is why we love these titans battle it out.
@@lauriedepaurie The fact is Max didn't make the corner and in the process took Lewis and himself out.
The MA FIA will hate you for this excellent piece of submission. You should take up a post with RB. Please do one on SILVERSTONE too!!
Simply amazing work!
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That's mega, incredible work in that animation. I guess although Hamilton ran Max wide it was the one defensive move they're allowed. But Lewis definitely gets more aggressive when in combat with Max.
Stunning animation, keep up the good work.
I know Hamilton mentioned the tyre hit his head but I never realised by how much. The pov camera from Hamilton is shocking when it pushes his head down. And the slow mo from outside really shows it.
Without the halo he would have had no chance.
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Bullshit you drama queen Hamilton would have survived by bending over but , he would be real sore and bruised but not dead !!
@@gjb4868 you are valid to your opinion. Just as I am to mine. Thanks for your input.
LOL! Sorry that you seem really over sensitive to other people sharing their opinions. 🤣
amazing. Thank you so much for your Time to do this.
You can see HAMILTON’S HEAD and from the driver’s view that he was looking all the time on his left. He was trying to SQUEEZE MAX OUT.
Great representation. Now why did verstappen get a penalty
1. Max was the attacking party (the FIA typically discourages overtakes that could be considered dangerous, regardless of situation). They adapt a narrative accordingly.
2. They penalized Lewis the last time and the FIA's target is to be *considered* fair and unbiased by fans. Not to actually be fair and unbiased. (Which is why they spent so much effort into explaing how it's the same penalty as in Silverstone even though these are totally different situations with different implications).
3. Max's reputation. He didn't make any friends in his first couple of years, but his couple last seasons (despite his clear growth and zero penalty points for about an entire season) British media still depicts him as if he's all about crashing into others. If he were to come off without punishment it would make the FIA look like they are helping him to Hamilton fans. By Hamilton fans Max is called the 'Teflon kid'... because...reasons...presumably.
The FIA and F1 are primarily in the industry of selling an experience. They are media companies that have a primary goal of selling. Not an actually fair, but an interesting sport. So they basically have to manage PR with politics. They don't go for the right thing, but for the thing that sells best.
@@lauriedepaurie very well said