FORTIN NTS SUITE VS FORTIN NAMELESS SUITE SHOOTOUT

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • This video is a shootout between The Fortin NTS Suite and Fortin Nameless Suite. Which plugin by Neural DSP do you guys like?! Let me know down below! Thanks for watching. Please like and share. Stay Metal!
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  • @FortinAmps
    @FortinAmps 5 років тому +35

    Glad you enjoy Ray!

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому +2

      You guys are an amazing company. Looking forward to seeing your continued success in 2019

  • @hbomb495
    @hbomb495 5 років тому +5

    Can’t lose on either, but the NTS has this tiny spikyness in the tone that just maims.
    Love it 😍

  • @monsterk7603
    @monsterk7603 5 років тому +1

    They are a lot closer to each other than I expected. I'm with you. NTS by a hair. Great video!

  • @mr.esabsurditiesatrocities1805
    @mr.esabsurditiesatrocities1805 5 років тому

    Another phenomenal demo. You made both sound fantastic. Thank you for sharing.

  • @stringsofchaos5312
    @stringsofchaos5312 5 років тому +2

    This is an amazing compare video dude! I wanted a heads up on both these models and you sir delivered. Gave you a sub, and joined the bell notifier club

  • @kevinchatfield5907
    @kevinchatfield5907 5 років тому +2

    Yeah I preordered the NTS while using the nameless trial and couldnt decide. Even am thinking about getting both. But just dont know yet. The neural facebook page posted that the zuul will be updated to nameless once NTS is officially released. I really loved the nameless trial. Im so torn between them. Theyre both so badass.

    • @thetrendkiller8444
      @thetrendkiller8444 5 років тому

      Having both is the best thing I ever did man.

    • @kevinchatfield5907
      @kevinchatfield5907 5 років тому +1

      Yeah, im thinking thats gonna need to be a thing for me too. 🤘

  • @AndyLeeSWE
    @AndyLeeSWE 2 роки тому

    Thank you 4 this video. It helped me with a "difficult" decision 😀

  • @1992hetfield
    @1992hetfield 8 місяців тому

    Cab set up?

  • @SaturnineXTS
    @SaturnineXTS 4 роки тому

    I still don't entirely understand the difference between the two. Isn't it like... you could actually get a sound like Nameless' by turning a few knobs in NTS anyway?

  • @Baconterrain
    @Baconterrain 4 роки тому

    Good vid and great song!! What drums are you using on that track?

  • @psychosocial3337
    @psychosocial3337 5 років тому +1

    Been using Bias FX for the past few years and it's really good.. but comparing it to the NTS suite I just had to get it, its just so much more closer to that real amp feeling for some reason, absolutely love it!

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому

      Yeah bro bias fx has been my go to plugin until these two came along. These sound less digital. Idk hard to explain

    • @MrNico3337
      @MrNico3337 5 років тому

      @@xanderraymondcharles Atleast bias still have a ton of pedals for clean tones and stuff.... but I'm never going back from my NTS boi when it comes to metal tones.. I will eventually get the Nameless too I think, its honestly the first time I feel like I haven't been needing a tube amp which I haven't had since I moved out when I was 18 :D

  • @RowdyAF
    @RowdyAF 3 роки тому

    Both go together like pb&j

  • @WPFES
    @WPFES 5 років тому +1

    Thank you

  • @vejichan
    @vejichan 5 років тому

    Which is better for dream theater

  • @Justanother94
    @Justanother94 5 років тому

    How do i acquire these plugins? I have presonus studio one but i want to know how people get these and what program is it?

  • @dman3d
    @dman3d 5 років тому

    Nolly vs nts vs nameless vs plini needed

  • @rikosimmo
    @rikosimmo 10 місяців тому

    2:05 2:20

  • @metalwrath4
    @metalwrath4 5 років тому

    NTS again. It has more bite & a more saturated sound.

  • @marvinrockon
    @marvinrockon 5 років тому +1

    First, hell yeah. :D

  • @lightyagami8377
    @lightyagami8377 5 років тому +20

    I think the Nameless is more suited for Progressive/Djent/Rock tones as it is nearly not as gainy or saturated as the NTS. The NTS is very saturated as it shows in 2:14 compared to the nameless in 2:20. NTS seems more fitted for extreme metal genres like death metal type of shit haha. Both excellent

  • @NeuralDSP
    @NeuralDSP 5 років тому +37

    Thank you for the great video Ray!

  • @RudyAyoub
    @RudyAyoub 5 років тому +12

    THICC
    also I feel bad for your cameras autofocus, looks like it's struggling lol

  • @xklopan
    @xklopan 5 років тому +4

    I'd have to go with the Nameless due to it being a little more versatile over different music genres.

  • @gregmerritt9366
    @gregmerritt9366 5 років тому +4

    I'm thinking they're both good to double track with.

  • @tappistrt
    @tappistrt 5 років тому +3

    That update you talked about finally happened this year. Nameless is on version 2.0, and the Zuul is included!

  • @ilikeheavymuzic135
    @ilikeheavymuzic135 5 років тому +2

    NTS is more saturated and gainy, nameless is more open and organic sounding. both are incredible and neither one is better than the other, they're just different

  • @Oilid
    @Oilid 5 років тому +9

    YOU DID IT!
    You're da man bro! 👍
    EDIT: I listened to your video on all my sounding systems, the NTS has something gnarly which makes it win my heart... euh... my ears! :)

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому +1

      yessir I knew you were anticipating it! Hope you dug it my man

    • @Oilid
      @Oilid 5 років тому

      @@xanderraymondcharles Yes sir! :)

  • @Stephen_Eee
    @Stephen_Eee 5 років тому +3

    I see the title and realize I'm slightly dyslexic coz I keep thinking Ray's finally done it, made a fortnite vid.

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому

      Hahah in all seriousness I don’t even know what fortnite is. Is that like a game?

  • @orphanuprising
    @orphanuprising 8 місяців тому

    Man. I just rewatched this. I've had the Nameless suite for years, wondering if I should add the NTS to my library, but goddamn. Hearing them side by side, the Nameless still just crushes my balls in a way nothing else can.

  • @britishboxer6875
    @britishboxer6875 2 роки тому

    8180 is their loudest bubtu the best grind high gain amp is Klirrton Grindstein, it blows NAMELESS away

  • @slipknotmfkrlocust8843
    @slipknotmfkrlocust8843 5 років тому +2

    Have to go with the NTS, just has more punch in the tone than the Nameless.

  • @tomperret7734
    @tomperret7734 5 років тому +2

    Great shootout. Interested to know your signal chain and tuning. Was there any processing other than the plugins? Both sound sweet, but think the NTS takes it!

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому

      Hey thanks tom! Nothing on the actual tracks and then some minimal eq and compression of the bus. That’s it!

  • @rikosimmo
    @rikosimmo 10 місяців тому

    2:05 2:19

  • @rikosimmo
    @rikosimmo 10 місяців тому

    1:35 1:58

  • @rikosimmo
    @rikosimmo 10 місяців тому

    1:36 1:59

  • @jonathandenny2870
    @jonathandenny2870 5 років тому +2

    Theyre both amazing plugins. The NTS to my ears sounds slightly more full and sounds more nasty in the best way possible.

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому +2

      Yeah man it’s such a tough call. I like the NTS by a hair

    • @jonathandenny2870
      @jonathandenny2870 5 років тому

      @@xanderraymondcharles it has more the meshuggah sound lol

  • @OrlandoAponte
    @OrlandoAponte 5 років тому +1

    I prefer the Nameless but it really is worth it to have both.

  • @DavidWoodMusic
    @DavidWoodMusic 5 років тому +1

    Has Joey Sturgis demonetized this video yet because no one will ever buy a ToneForge plugin after this?

  • @HyperNova137
    @HyperNova137 5 років тому

    I came here thinking I would dig the Nameless a bit more, but after hearing them side-by-side I now feel like it has a bit too much of an annoying airy hiss and crackle on top of the tone - similar to those frequencies that you usually have to notch out of most guitar plugin sounds with an EQ. That actually makes it sound tighter on the palm mute chugs, but everywhere else it feels like unwanted noise. Thanks for the video, I think you just helped me decide which one my money is going to!

  • @preeceeric
    @preeceeric 5 років тому +2

    Bro that riff at 2:35 was on fire more than California!

  • @Shreddster
    @Shreddster 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this

  • @blacksaona
    @blacksaona 4 роки тому +1

    Your riff kills, can i find it on your ep?

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  4 роки тому +1

      thanks man. Yeah you can find all my original stuff under Luna Muerta. Thats my solo stuff

    • @blacksaona
      @blacksaona 4 роки тому

      @@xanderraymondcharles whats the name of this song?

  • @Makron220
    @Makron220 5 років тому

    Can you try Waves PRS Supermodels? It was released right before JST Misha plugin and Nameless Suite. People seem to kinda to forget about it. I am curious about your opinion.

  • @matttaylor1449
    @matttaylor1449 5 років тому

    It was the noisiness of the Nameless that stopped me buying it and sticking to Bias Amp. NTS looks promising. But even though the Nameless is getting the Zuul i'm not getting it because i think i don't like that amp.

  • @MetalHeadMat666
    @MetalHeadMat666 4 роки тому

    Thank you!!! I'm going to grab both, but this helped me figure out which I NEED and which I just want lolol. Gotta be the Natas for me!

  • @thetrendkiller8444
    @thetrendkiller8444 5 років тому

    Awesome video bro!!! I also think the Zuul is the only thing that keeps these two plugins from being tied for first. Thanks for sharing and Stay Metal Ray!!!

  • @leemaines1541
    @leemaines1541 5 років тому

    thanks for the shootout man. I've been on the fence about picking up nameless and now i'm sold.

  • @johnraymer1233
    @johnraymer1233 5 років тому

    Would like to hear clean comparisons before I take my pic, killer demo btw!

  • @vejichan
    @vejichan 5 років тому

    What audio interface , daw, monitors, pc'?

  • @jamesyellow3786
    @jamesyellow3786 5 років тому

    But how they sound clean? For Intros...?

  • @Death.Malakaiah
    @Death.Malakaiah 5 років тому

    💗

  • @IntheDAW
    @IntheDAW 5 років тому +4

    man its hard to choose. Nameless has girth but the NTS has a nice bite.

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому

      Well said. In my eyes the nameless has more clarity and the NTS has more gain

    • @psychosocial3337
      @psychosocial3337 5 років тому

      The hexdrive is also a great addition, you can make some really cool sounds with that as well :)

  • @Az_Eaz
    @Az_Eaz 5 років тому

    What cab settings were you using?

  • @eddiewixson9680
    @eddiewixson9680 5 років тому

    I just downloaded the Nameless trial, has the Zuul, and 2 overdrives, Grind and Hexdrive. The Hexdrive is killer! Thank you for this video! Deciding which one I want to get, hard choice! About to get the NTS trial..

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому

      yeah man its a tough call. Honestly I'd go Nameless. For whatever reason, it my favorite of the two. Thanks for the support buddy!

  • @gentlewolf1279
    @gentlewolf1279 5 років тому

    Love both of the plugins and the tune was cool... just curious why you scooped the mids so hard?

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому

      thats their natural timbre. They're both heavy on the lows and highs, especially the nameless. They sound kinda funny when the mids go past noon. Plus no mids=more metal obviously haha

    • @gentlewolf1279
      @gentlewolf1279 5 років тому

      @@xanderraymondcharles lol:)

  • @TGormania
    @TGormania 5 років тому

    Now you need to do it again. The update to the nameless suite is pretty killer. ;)

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому

      Haha you’re in fact correct. It’s sick. I’m gonna shoot these two out next to the STL tones bundle because the Howard benson suite is in the running as top plugin

    • @TGormania
      @TGormania 5 років тому

      @@xanderraymondcharles Benson has more options and I like when you turn the volume down on the guitar, it doesn't cut right out.

  • @marvinrockon
    @marvinrockon 5 років тому

    Yeah, the NTS rips. It seems to go better with drop tunings or guitars with more than 6 strings. It adds a slamming brutal tone. Nameless for 6 sting metal not tuned so low, NTS for the Djent, Meshuggah-ish and modern progressive metal sounds or death metal. I think the NTW slams the door in. Its really kicking it.

    • @WholeLottaBulldog
      @WholeLottaBulldog 5 років тому +2

      Mate nameless is the meshuggah sig amp; not as good for drop tuning? It was made specifically for the purpose of drop tuning 😂

    • @marvinrockon
      @marvinrockon 5 років тому

      @@WholeLottaBulldog Yeah, listening again, youre right. But the NTS sounds a bit beefier and thanks to the noise gate it doesnt seems less tight.

    • @lightyagami8377
      @lightyagami8377 5 років тому +1

      Yea man Fortin Nameless *is* Meshuggah's amp in which the band uses 8-string guitars in ridiculous low tunings. NTS is defiantly more suited for extreme metal tones. If you want that clear and tight Periphery tone? Nameless. If you want that Brutal White Chapel type of stuff? NTS

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому +1

      Yeah I agree with you bro. Nameless suite has a lot of clarity which will help out a lot with lower tunings

  • @MKRocker2012
    @MKRocker2012 5 років тому +1

    I tried the Nameless Suite trial version, and I didn't really like it. Not compared to Waves PRS Archon, which is my current main amp sim. Now I think I know why. The NTS seems to get a lot closer to that tight, punchy attack with a mid boost that we've become used to, whereas the Nameless has an airy bottom end with not so much mids. But I found that the Nameless also had this fizzyness in the top end that you tend to encounter with a lot of cheap amp sims (which neither of these sims are). So I'd probably go with the NTS.

  • @xEDWINxXXX
    @xEDWINxXXX 5 років тому +3

    I gotta go with the nts too man!! Both sound amazing but the nts has a bit more gain which I prefer!

    • @xanderraymondcharles
      @xanderraymondcharles  5 років тому

      Yeah bro you can’t wrong with either one. I love them both so much