In your mind you'd think that but as this Dual Boiler was designed in a metric country... you are wrong and what you see in F'd increments is rounded. So suck it up buttercup and get metric.
@@alexisacevedo6121 I ended up getting the Baratza Sette 270, the enjoyment of the smell off freshly ground coffee, single dosing and pulling a decent shot is somewhat therapeutic a good routine for that morning wake up call !
This machine has 3 bar for the steam pressure...which is not high, but good enough. The other machine you mention has over 6 bar steam pressure. Some believe that is too much and the time for steaming is too fast. It's better to have lower steam pressure and more time to make a better end result than high steam pressure and blow the milk all over the room!
Hi -- thanks for your vid. I have the Sage version of this machine -- its the same. However, I do have a couple of questions, which are: "For most of my coffee life I have enjoyed a very strong Americano (4 or 6 shots) prior to and during breakfast. With the Dual Boiler each Americano was typically made using 2 double shot 30 sec brews of expresso and then some small amount of water in a mug. As I have got older (now 60) have had to reduce the strength but not the flavour -- whether this is a bad habit or just laziness I have adopted increasing the brew time from 30sec to 70 sec - rather than brewing and then adding water. My grinder is the matching Sage (Breville); set at 14.2 seconds and size 10 - using Starbucks Dark Roast Expresso Beans - this fills the 58mm double shot portafilter. But - I typically only achieve 6.5-7.0 bar pressure during the brew. Reducing the grind size , requires a longer grind, and while the higher resistance from the smaller ground coffee granules increases the bar to 9 bar the volume of express produces in the standard 30 second brew reduces. My questions ARE: --- a) rather than brewing for 70 secs should I return to a shorter standard brew and then add hot water? Really the question is does brewing for much longer than 30 seconds introduce some added bitterness or other flavours from the ground beans? AND b) size 10 grind leads to a 6.5-7.0 bar brew; should I revert to a smaller grind size to achieve the 9.0 bar that you refer to in your vid?
Hi, Breville machines are made in China. This model has been around for quite some time. I posted a video about the predecessor of this machine which was the Breville Dual Boiler 900 nine years ago and I would estimate that this version, the 920 has been around for about 7 or 8 years.
Thank you for this careful review. How robust do you think this unit is? I like its compact size and wonder if this would be a good option on a food truck to upgrade our coffee offering. However, I wonder if it could really pull shots hour after hour every day of the week?
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada Thank you. Yes, I figured it would void the warranty. I've not found a commercial unit so compact, which is why we don't serve espresso. :)
@@GregJoshuaW something like a La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi might work, it's like a miniature commercial machine or of you can plumb it in go with the Vivaldi and get a rotary pump which is more robust
What do you recommend as very reliable machine I am not sure about the breville quality people complain a lot for the money it's great but don't feel like fixing it I have Nespresso small capsule machine over 6years now never broke once I just feel like making espresso again
My Sage Barista express is 3 years old now and still going fine, the only problem I had with it was the flow unit and that was solved by descaling it a couple of times. I presume the dual boiler don't have the same unit. look after the machine and it should last for years.
@@muntedewok But that would just be the boiler, the group head still have to get warm, so I would say more than 3Minutes. I have a Sage Barista Express, Brevile sells their machines as Sage in the U.K as brevile in the U.K is not the same company, anyway, I have the Barista Express and while the machine is ready to use in a couple of minutes, it is best to let the group head warm up, i presume the same would be for the dual boiler. If things go right next year, i may get a dual boiler myself, it will be Sage, but still the same machine.
I do have that machine for a couple of months now. When i manually brew single shot the espresso comes with dissent crema, and the pressure gauge moves to 7 or 9. But when i do double shot the pressure gauge stays at 0 and the espresso has no crema, but tastes pretty much the same. I use a nice Breville grinder with espresso grind and tamper the coffee as shown on the video. I have contacted Breville, but they were not much help. Anyone knows why? i also use fresh beans, less than a week old. Thanks
Doesn't make any sense. What do you mean manually? What do you mean double shot? How many grams you put into the single and then into the double? Did you use double wall baskets or single wall all time, or did you mix them? Coffee can't taste the same at 7 bars, then at 9 bars and finally at zero. It's nonsense. Every small change in settings has extreme impact on taste.
@@johnwet6969 FYI: Those Breville/Sage machines have a manual or auto espresso extract button. I use double wall basket with the recommended amount of coffee. This is my observation as I descripted on my original question. Obviously, I can tell you are not aware of the operation of this machine and I understand because it can get pretty complicated.
@@lambroshilas8080 Don’t worry about my knowledge of the Breville/Sage Dual boiler 🤓 I have it in my kitchen and theoretically I know it very well. I just wanted to know what do you meant and how you used the machine because there are many people with very little knowledge about this machine. They also don’t care about single wall or double wall baskets etc. They don’t care about dose and proper tamping and especially proper grind. If you pull a shot from double wall single shot and same ground from single wall double shot it can be night and day. One with pressure and crema and second is disgusting water. It also depends on time/dose set on machine by programming single or double shot. Nevertheless I still don’t understand how it is possible to lost all pressure when you press double shot. The pressure gauge must show that pressure all time no matter if you press single or double. Something must be wrong. Maybe somebody changed pre infusion time in deeper programming 🤷♂️. I have different problem with Dual Boiler. I’m pulling beautiful shots with nice crema and aroma with good time, ratio, time, pressure, temperature etc. And tried many small tweaks in all parameters, but no one espresso tasted good to me. I always feel some astringency and my stomach don’t like it too. From previous DeLonghi I was able to pull very delicious shots without this astringency. 🙄😕 Other people don’t care it and they are saying that my espresso is fine.
@@johnwet6969 thanks for the info. I am considering buying a Delongi. Which one you recommend? One that makes a good shot and is not as complicated as the Breville.
A two you old could of told ypu that, but you can get nice coffee machine with one head suitable for a business, but i would recommend at least two depends on how much coffee you sell
iDrinkCoffeeCanada As far as I can tell, another Australian company - Sunbeam - sells its coffee machines under the Breville name in the UK. Really weird reversal for us Aussies. Here they are competitors (though the real Breville makes the better machines IMHO).
Plenty of info on home barista forum. VST, IMS and others made for 58mm portafilters fit. Oh and default is 2x pressurized + 2x normal (single and double).
I have not heard about an upgrade to this machine yet. Breville released the Oracle Touch which is a dual boiler a while back but I have been told of any pending upgrades to the 920 yet
We wanted to update our channel since we only had a video of the previous version the 900xl from about 5 years ago. We sell a lot of these and our customers have requested it.
This machine is on sale at iDrinkCoffee in Canada right now for $1249.95 CAD which as about 830 euro but I am not familiar with other markets. The Breville 920 is priced at 1/2 or even 1/3 of the competition
Hmmm... I never thought of the drip tray as a place to hide the keys to my Ferrari from my wife. Great tip :)!!!
Just starting out on home coffee journey, excellent informative video. Thanks from Scotland.
Awesome video, super informative! Great seeing all the different features.
Great review! You should do some slayer type shots, 30 seconds preinfusion! Love the video's you do, keep up the good work
Just ordered this after discovering the gs3 mod that easy. Slayer mod is a bit much more work
I live in Cleveland, OH. If I get a chance I run up to your store and say hi. I might even come out with an expresso machine.
That sounds great, you are always welcome. I've been to Cleveland before, it's about a 4 and a half hour drive.
"hiding-something-from-your-spouse storage" is an interesting feature of such product. 3:00
Even though I'm in Canada I like using F for coffee, adjusting a PID in F is smaller increments than in C, also 200f looks nicer than 93c :D
In your mind you'd think that but as this Dual Boiler was designed in a metric country... you are wrong and what you see in F'd increments is rounded. So suck it up buttercup and get metric.
@@FirstLastOne Boo, yeah I figured that might be the case for some machines.
Great, clear video. Thank you
I just purchased this for our home, really nice detailed video..much appreciated. Now I just need to find a good grinder that doesn't break the bank.
Pancakeninja me too. Don’t like the breville smart much
@@alexisacevedo6121 I ended up getting the Baratza Sette 270, the enjoyment of the smell off freshly ground coffee, single dosing and pulling a decent shot is somewhat therapeutic a good routine for that morning wake up call !
i have problem when set into 1 shot the gauge is not moving could you help.
How long does it take to heat up
Thanks!
HAHA hide something from your spouse.. that was great. i love how you said that so casually.
Hi great reviews. Thanks for doing them for us. Can you tell me how is the steam power on this is compared to the barista pro?
This machine has 3 bar for the steam pressure...which is not high, but good enough. The other machine you mention has over 6 bar steam pressure. Some believe that is too much and the time for steaming is too fast. It's better to have lower steam pressure and more time to make a better end result than high steam pressure and blow the milk all over the room!
Hi -- thanks for your vid. I have the Sage version of this machine -- its the same. However, I do have a couple of questions, which are:
"For most of my coffee life I have enjoyed a very strong Americano (4 or 6 shots) prior to and during breakfast.
With the Dual Boiler each Americano was typically made using 2 double shot 30 sec brews of expresso and then some small amount of water in a mug.
As I have got older (now 60) have had to reduce the strength but not the flavour -- whether this is a bad habit or just laziness I have adopted increasing the brew time from 30sec to 70 sec - rather than brewing and then adding water.
My grinder is the matching Sage (Breville); set at 14.2 seconds and size 10 - using Starbucks Dark Roast Expresso Beans - this fills the 58mm double shot portafilter.
But - I typically only achieve 6.5-7.0 bar pressure during the brew. Reducing the grind size , requires a longer grind, and while the higher resistance from the smaller ground coffee granules increases the bar to 9 bar the volume of express produces in the standard 30 second brew reduces.
My questions ARE: ---
a) rather than brewing for 70 secs should I return to a shorter standard brew and then add hot water? Really the question is does brewing for much longer than 30 seconds introduce some added bitterness or other flavours from the ground beans? AND
b) size 10 grind leads to a 6.5-7.0 bar brew; should I revert to a smaller grind size to achieve the 9.0 bar that you refer to in your vid?
So...you were 60 years old when you started typing your comment....and 63 years old when you finished it.....WOW....long winded there.
Can suggest that you get an aeropress and incorporate it into your coffee life
Nice review
How does this machine compare to something like an ECM Mechanika V as far as longevity and build quality?
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You forgot to mention about 58 mm portofilter.
Yes, thank you. The 920 has a commercial sized 58mm portatilter
iDrinkCoffeeCanada If only it had the same lugs as other 58mm ones so you could buy spares (or naked ones - never in stock at Breville). Sigh.
Do you used Dual Wall Filter in the video??
Where is made Breville Dual Boiler 920xl and when first time came in the market
Hi, Breville machines are made in China. This model has been around for quite some time. I posted a video about the predecessor of this machine which was the Breville Dual Boiler 900 nine years ago and I would estimate that this version, the 920 has been around for about 7 or 8 years.
I make so crazy latte art wit this machine 😍😍
Awesome!
Why didn't you mention imporfant things like the type of group head and its advantages and heat up time?
Thank you for this careful review. How robust do you think this unit is? I like its compact size and wonder if this would be a good option on a food truck to upgrade our coffee offering. However, I wonder if it could really pull shots hour after hour every day of the week?
Hi, I would not recommend this unit for commercial use. It's not designed for that kind of use and it would void your warranty.
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada Thank you. Yes, I figured it would void the warranty. I've not found a commercial unit so compact, which is why we don't serve espresso. :)
@@GregJoshuaW something like a La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi might work, it's like a miniature commercial machine or of you can plumb it in go with the Vivaldi and get a rotary pump which is more robust
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada Excellent suggestions - thank you.
Do u have a video for barista express?
It seems like such a great value but I just wish it didn't have the same aesthetics as my toaster.
What do you recommend as very reliable machine I am not sure about the breville quality people complain a lot for the money it's great but don't feel like fixing it I have Nespresso small capsule machine over 6years now never broke once I just feel like making espresso again
it's very reliable, i've been using mine everyday for last 5 years. Zero issues
Nespresso is not a true Espresso Machine IMO
@@justinc2625 do u have barista exprees?
I've been using the dual boiler for years as well, very very reliable.
@@reginaldbowls7180 what do you recommend dual boiler with fixed grinder or with separate one like the one in the video??
My Sage Barista express is 3 years old now and still going fine, the only problem I had with it was the flow unit and that was solved by descaling it a couple of times. I presume the dual boiler don't have the same unit. look after the machine and it should last for years.
Is this machine good to use in a small cafe? How many cups can it do in a day?
Hi, this machine is rated for domestic use only.
Great review, thanks! Does anybody know how long it takes to worm up? Thanks
3mins
15mins to achieve proper wartm-up
@@flanners41 No, it literally takes about 3 mins. I own one.
@@muntedewok But that would just be the boiler, the group head still have to get warm, so I would say more than 3Minutes. I have a Sage Barista Express, Brevile sells their machines as Sage in the U.K as brevile in the U.K is not the same company, anyway, I have the Barista Express and while the machine is ready to use in a couple of minutes, it is best to let the group head warm up, i presume the same would be for the dual boiler.
If things go right next year, i may get a dual boiler myself, it will be Sage, but still the same machine.
warm up?
I do have that machine for a couple of months now. When i manually brew single shot the espresso comes with dissent crema, and the pressure gauge moves to 7 or 9. But when i do double shot the pressure gauge stays at 0 and the espresso has no crema, but tastes pretty much the same. I use a nice Breville grinder with espresso grind and tamper the coffee as shown on the video. I have contacted Breville, but they were not much help. Anyone knows why? i also use fresh beans, less than a week old. Thanks
Doesn't make any sense. What do you mean manually? What do you mean double shot? How many grams you put into the single and then into the double? Did you use double wall baskets or single wall all time, or did you mix them? Coffee can't taste the same at 7 bars, then at 9 bars and finally at zero. It's nonsense. Every small change in settings has extreme impact on taste.
@@johnwet6969 FYI: Those Breville/Sage machines have a manual or auto espresso extract button. I use double wall basket with the recommended amount of coffee. This is my observation as I descripted on my original question. Obviously, I can tell you are not aware of the operation of this machine and I understand because it can get pretty complicated.
@@lambroshilas8080 Don’t worry about my knowledge of the Breville/Sage Dual boiler 🤓 I have it in my kitchen and theoretically I know it very well. I just wanted to know what do you meant and how you used the machine because there are many people with very little knowledge about this machine. They also don’t care about single wall or double wall baskets etc.
They don’t care about dose and proper tamping and especially proper grind. If you pull a shot from double wall single shot and same ground from single wall double shot it can be night and day. One with pressure and crema and second is disgusting water. It also depends on time/dose set on machine by programming single or double shot. Nevertheless I still don’t understand how it is possible to lost all pressure when you press double shot. The pressure gauge must show that pressure all time no matter if you press single or double. Something must be wrong. Maybe somebody changed pre infusion time in deeper programming 🤷♂️.
I have different problem with Dual Boiler. I’m pulling beautiful shots with nice crema and aroma with good time, ratio, time, pressure, temperature etc. And tried many small tweaks in all parameters, but no one espresso tasted good to me. I always feel some astringency and my stomach don’t like it too. From previous DeLonghi I was able to pull very delicious shots without this astringency. 🙄😕 Other people don’t care it and they are saying that my espresso is fine.
@@johnwet6969 thanks for the info. I am considering buying a Delongi. Which one you recommend? One that makes a good shot and is not as complicated as the Breville.
Think your using the wrong basket. And a dark roasted coffee is usualy best between 4 to 10 days after roasting
If I were to take this with me to Europe, would it work with a simple plug adapter?
Yes
Flanners _ Are you sure? This is likely a 110v version...different ulka pump and element afaik.
NO! Everything in the NA model is for 120v 60hz and it just won't work in Europe at 220-240v 50hz.
@@FirstLastOne You can buy a 240v to 120v transformer if that's the case....
Is this rotary pump or vibration pump?
vibration
Great video
Does it work well for a coffee shop?
This is a domestic machine and not suitable for commercial use
A two you old could of told ypu that, but you can get nice coffee machine with one head suitable for a business, but i would recommend at least two depends on how much coffee you sell
@@jazmynbrown5021 Huh????
hey, ive seen that their is machiene that looke exactly that same but by sage is it the same machiene?
Hi,
It's the same machine. Breville and Sage are the same. The machines are branded Sage in the UK and Breville in most other regions.
iDrinkCoffeeCanada As far as I can tell, another Australian company - Sunbeam - sells its coffee machines under the Breville name in the UK. Really weird reversal for us Aussies. Here they are competitors (though the real Breville makes the better machines IMHO).
But you didn't talk about baskets
Plenty of info on home barista forum. VST, IMS and others made for 58mm portafilters fit. Oh and default is 2x pressurized + 2x normal (single and double).
It's old machine any new one are coming from duel boiler
I have not heard about an upgrade to this machine yet. Breville released the Oracle Touch which is a dual boiler a while back but I have been told of any pending upgrades to the 920 yet
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada is it realible machine or what do you recommend that last strega? Is it old fashioned machine
@@robertshetsen8691 Huh???
@@robertshetsen8691 If it works, what upgrade do you need, It is a dual boiler machine, so what could be improved?
Hmmm. Old model. Why new review?
We wanted to update our channel since we only had a video of the previous version the 900xl from about 5 years ago. We sell a lot of these and our customers have requested it.
Hide something from Mrs hmmmmm good idea
2000 euro definitely not good valve.
This machine is on sale at iDrinkCoffee in Canada right now for $1249.95 CAD which as about 830 euro but I am not familiar with other markets. The Breville 920 is priced at 1/2 or even 1/3 of the competition
iDrinkCoffeeCanada valve is an issue thought