20 years of rubbish - Former champion slams Carlton I AFL 360 I Fox Footy
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Mark Maclure was scathing in his criticism of the Blues
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I’m not a Carlton supporter but I think supporters and club legends and members have a right to be this upset. they have literally been rebuilding since 2012 something has to change.
2007 actually LOL
‘96 according to my notes...
Tiger fans know the pain and had it even worse. 2 Finals appearances in 29 years from 1983-2012. In the last 29 years Carlton have at least made 11 Finals appearances and even won a flag.
Not only that, they have been losing games to gain priority picks and still their list is rubbish. Other clubs have been competitive without having best picks for young talent. The whole club needs a clean out!
@@knight2425 Amen
Hey Carlton......my son asked me”Dad! Why do we go for Carlton when they never win?”......Worst part was all I could say was “we used to be good”.
it hurts...Glenelg went thru it...
Ive had that question for years from my son; and your answer is the one Ive given for years too!
You should explain how it used to be so easy to cheat, salary cap, tanking for draft picks....
@@tiborsol7959 that is true, it was easier. Most clubs did it. Fiddling with the salary cap, hiding payments, tanking for draft picks when they were down. Carlton seemed to do it more overtly than most other clubs, and paid the highest price. Most clubs did it though..
Richmond were the same when i was growing up, i'm sure Carlton will come good eventually.
You can tell he’s talking about murphy
Everyone is starting to see how overrated he has been for years. He has no contest for the ball and no will to get it. Sure as hell if I was him though, I’d walk out there and stand in a field to for a fine salary 🤣🤣
When you make the Finals only 4 times since 2000, there comes a time where people say “I’m sick of this crap”.
And also during that span, five wooden spoons. It's an absolute mess in Carlton.
one of those finals spots was by default because of Essendon
@@anthonykernich1035 too right.
Carlton have traditionally been one of the big clubs in Melbourne. They are not going to attract new supporters if they are down so long. 20 years is a whole generation of new footy fans.
Just hit an all time high of 80,000 members
I have to disagree. Fans come from family mostly and Carlton have the biggest grand final attendance ever and probably another high in the second or third grand finals. They could be huge.
@@rayoflight8182 yeah but when was the last time Carlton made a Grand Final? 1999 that was last the last millennium. Carlton made the finals last in 2013 and lost. Just because they have a big fan base, they aren’t a good side
@@zaco21_ never said they are good. Just think when they come good they will have a huge fan base. I'm talking the future.
@@Tom-js3iz Yeah but 10-15,000 are buy one get one free memberships that the AFL won't count
Watching this now like it’s now. 😢
Dunno why Sam Walsh is pictured, he’s an absolute champion
IKR
Umpires love him, you simply can’t touch him. This love used to be for Cripps. He’s struggling having to earn his way...
Soccer is by far the biggest and most important sport on Earth with over 4 Billion fans and is massive in over 240 countries. The whole world loves soccer. Rugby league and AFL are both tinpot sports. Rugby league big in only 4 countries. Afl is a tiny sport with 7 million fans and massive in 4 Australian states. Soccer will be the number 1 sport in Australia by 2050 ryfnf
@@mufc383 Soccer: Beloved by lady boys the world over.
Should have stuck with SOS. When he gave it to Carro telling her I can get ya a team tomorrow to finish eighth but I am here to get us a premiership, true grit and passion. Time to move on Liddle and co. Soft weak people and it flows down right through the club. Mark, you are absolutely right, those softie weak players who only play for themselves have to go.
Give me ten Ed Curnows. I often see these top teams running in numbers, that's what makes them so good, let's try that.
stuck with SOS what draft more duds from GWS they wouldn't be available if they were any good every player we have got from GWS is Average or crap, the blues need to get rid of about 8 to 10 players at years end and make a play for someone like Oscar Allen from the WCE
Spot-on.
they have to learn how to kick, 44% efficiency, while port kicked at 90%
All I could hear was Maclure fiddlin' with that bloody pen.
yes and maclure is wearing a pink shirt and telling them to men lol.
Hahahahahhaha
@@jasjrock6424 baahahahahahaha
@@jasjrock6424 Pink shirt or not your talking about the one having won 3 premiership metals, what is there to say about Carlton players today!
F---ck all. Truth hurts!!
@@pittassavvas7512 medal* Wayne Harmes was out of bounds in 79". No wins since last century very bad you should barrack for Collingwood, truth hurts
I think one of the issues is that for the first time in a very long time that group of players had a expectation put on them of really being a potential finals team and they knew "okay boys, it's time preform, you are ready - no more excuses" and so far they've failed miserably under the weight of that pressure.
This boils down to the culture of the Carlton Football Club and the mental fragility of those players.
I really believe they have come to the conclusion that at best most of them are very average players and their confidence is totally shot.
They have very little self belief in themselves or each other and it shows with their on field performances so far in 2021.
we have a talented list there’s no denying it. teague just needs to pull his finger out his ass and start dropping players and getting into them at the huddles. he shows no emotion in the coaching box, just doesn’t look like he’s passionate. he’s mates with the players not their coach
Agree with Greg. Average players, last year done fans thought Plowman was good and i had a few back and forth. Maybe these average players relying on star recruits to do all the heavy lifting. It doesn't work that way.
Yep. 10-11 decent players and the other half of the starting 22 are VFL level players at best..
Eddie Betts: “it’s one game, we need to move on.”
No it’s not mate it’s been 26 years in the making.
No offence but Eddy himself is bludging ,just scabbing around for a kick .He was doing it at the crows near the end of his stint there.Things were wrong at the Crows and the way he was playing reflected it Never write off a champion as he has it in him to ignite the spark but somehow things have to change somewhere.
Mistake recruiting Eddie even though he came cheap if he can’t show leadership and help drag these boys up to a better level. He is not going to be part of a future premiership so why waste a spot for a younger player if isn’t going to help the club get better.
Eddie is a champ. But this should be his last season. Carlton made a mistake getting him at his age.
Mark Maclure needs to get involved at the club on match day to rev the players up
"I've seen you angry before"
As a Brisbane fan, I do not appreciate how hard the media is pushing Carltons backs into the wall this week.
Ohh I get you lol
They deserve it, have been raping the system for many years to the detriment of other clubs. I have no sympathy Carlton can’t build their club seeing as all the great picks they have received for how many years now
For sure Spoiler! Was just thinking that! 🦁✌️
Im also a Lions fan and Im thinking the same thing, theyve got a habit of beating us too.
@@shaynewest8757 all turned out OK
A few years ago I remember a Carlton player had left and joined another team. He was interviewed after a training at his new team and he was genuinally stunned at how much more intense the training sessions were compared to what they had been at Carlton. I have heard that story multiple times from ex-Carlton players. I remember thinking at the time of hearing that....'ohhhhhhhh that is why they are continually non competetive'.
Do you remember what player that was?
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Ive seen some of their trainings; not much different from what a decent local suburban footy side would do.. Half Carltons list are suburban level players anyway. So they are right at home with that casual training approach.
Mark Maclure I feel your pain. I love Carlton, I agree 100% what you have said, Since the new era of 2000s, they have no idea of what it means to play for Carlton Football Club. Pissed off.
The turning point for Carlton was several years ago when the board gave Bret Ratten his marching orders when the club was rebuilding
and statistics showed at that time that Carlton was moving forward. The players worked well together under Ratten
and the wheels started to turn. Enter Mick Malthouse 😂😂😂
You can thank LoGiudice, Judd, and numerous fired influences for that. I have no issue with 'Rat in a box' but he came in at such a heated point that it almost nullified his influence. Ratten unified. I just want to see the big supporter based Victorian clubs at least firing every 5-10 seasons. Not decades in the doldrums.
What’s Ratten done at St.Kilda? He’s a dud! Saints were rated higher than the Blues!!
Catastrophic decision that. Ratten should never have been sacked then.. He was shaping the club going forward. We missed the finals by a hair - that year...
@@binunladen9066 Saints won an elimination final last year, you forget ?
@@markdouglas9182 ..yeah..and if you recall...Carlton played dead in a match on the Gold Coast....so they wouldnt make the finals.....so Ratten would get the chop.....senoir players hatched that one.....as it turned out Carlton wouldnt have made the finals...win or loose....Demons played dead at Geelong so Bailey would get the chop...it happens...its a stench....and Blues have never recovered from it.....and one wonders about the non tryers at the Pies...and Bucks is gone....
Well said Mark but the issue is even if the players sit down and talk amongst themselves, the reality is there are at least 10 players in our side that are lucky to be VFL standard. If we finish above bottom 6 this year it will be a miracle.
Our best 10-11 players are very good. But I agree - the other half of our starting 22 are basically VFL level players.
I agree with mark my generation has been robbed of success from the club I have been to 1 final in 16 years pathetic
Carlton have been crap since the salary cap came into play, can’t grow a list .
Maclure is brutally honest and on the mark. Blues are doubly cursed. They lack determination & effort, but also the talent. Very poor list as a result of poor recruiting and poor development. I no longer look forward to Blues games.
We lack heart, we lack killer instinct, instead of getting in superstars who've done nothing (Saad, Williams, etc) get in players from premiership teams, finals teams, even if they're not the big names. Walsh and McKay are superstars, so is Cripps but he has a 10% win ratio. Doesn't know how to win.
Murphy has always sucked, never should have been captain (Simpson got ripped off). Casbolt, Dow, SPS, Charlie Curnow, Williamson, Marchbank, Plowman not AFL standard. Coach is ordinary and the board is useless. Sad time being a blues fan.
Charlie curnow and Marchbank are injured mate and they if anyone, showed the most signs
@@tomassaus9109 I'll give Caleb a pass then mate😉 though Charlie's always injured ( due to his own stupidity mostly) Marchbank has potential but players don't improve at Carlton so where does that leave him. We need to avoid the GWS castoffs like the plague.
Dow is one of the worst player’s i’ve ever seen
@@osvnisaneek8254 up there with Angwin and Bootsma. Also 2 former Blues 😒
God this is enjoyable viewing
Yeah. They were such arrogant, cheating bastards in their glory days. May they stay a joke!
Another statement from Mark Maclure that I can’t disagree with, well said Mark
As a diehard supporter I’m hurting as well game in game out every week and I’ve been supporting Carlton since I was really young and I’m from Western Australia
There seems to be a lot of Carlton supporters over there.
@@nathyatta Yeah. Some of us oldies remember Syd Jackson, Ken Hunter, Peter Bosustow and a few others.
One of the biggest problems with the blues is the retaining of dud players who are not up to AFL standard examples being, Marc Murphy, Levi Casboult, Paddy Dow, Mitch McGovern, Lochie O'Brien, Lochie Plowman and to a lesser extent Jack Martin, Will Setterfield and Sam Petrevski-Seaton
As a life long blues supporter where they are now compared to their halcyon years is tragic and embarrassing. They are meek and soft. They show no aggression or desire (with the exception of Walsh and Saad). Teague and the board need to go. They have a toxic culture and aren’t respected by the opposition.
Spot on mark been going for Carlton since 1974 and the last decade has been so painful maybe its the time to give the young guys a decent run at it.
This club is a shambles,,10,000 draft picks raided GWS players as much as possible,,all i here is were coming for the last 20 years, the 3 amigos was the biggest joke in footballs history,,,boring football,rubbish to watch coming from the man himself mark maclure,a captain who has trouble directing his players to whats expected and stop the sooky la la,(sorry thats the hard ball truth),sam walsh is the man to lead the club in my view,,and all thanks to,,,GUESS WHO ,,,BIG BAD J ELLIOT FOR CORRUPTING THE SYSTEM
my team Essendon are in the same predicament,and I have had a gut full.
Carlton and Essendon - 2 of the 3 "big Melbourne" clubs have been down WAAYYY too long... Collingwood's down too. So that's all of the Big 3..
@@markdouglas9182 I'd say Richmond is one of the big clubs of Melbourne so more like the Big 4.
@@lachlanmuller8760 Youre totally right. But Richmond have been successful the last few years Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon
The punishment from the salary cap breaches decades ago has hurt them badly. But Carlton should still have been able to rebuild during that time frame.
Ummm, he says Essendon have been better than Carlton. Is this guy for real? Bombers haven't won a final in 17 years. In that stage Carlton have won finals, even beating Essendon in one. I'm a Bombers fan, and if anyone should be just as peeved, if not more, it's the Bombers. Hands down the worst performing club of the last 2 decades. In fact, taking out the expansion teams, Essendon and Carlton are the only 2 clubs to not make a prelim in the last 15-16 years. We both used to be power houses, now absolute jokes. Poorly run clubs and both the Blues and Bomber faithful have had a gut full.
Well said. The Big 2 are the now the bottom 2 in recent years... Its not good for the AFL..
At Richmond they drop players when we win
That`s why the Tigers are such a great side! And that`s coming from a Blues supporter!
Did you see Dimmas face in the last quarter against the saints? Anyone would think he was the St Kilda coach.
@@petervella your right there. I'll keep this text to show my friends other wise they'd never believe a Carlton supporter said that about the tigers. Good on you.
@@BillyBowlster he always suffers during a game. A perfectionist.
@@rayoflight8182 You have to give credit where it's due! It's called sportsmanship, and no one runs the ball better than Richmond! An example is the Preliminary final against Port last year! They (Port) had fifteen extra inside 50s to the Tigers and you still beat them!
Now what does that say about Damien Hardwicks' game plan!
The man is a brilliant strategist!
All the best to you!
NOTHINGS changed
Mediocre list for the most part; lets be honest... There's 4 or 5 guys on that list that would have got a game at Carlton during Sellers era.. No more than that.. Hard to turn it around when half of the starting 22 are VFL level players...
Mark Maclure is simply the most honest, straight shooting footy analyst going around.
Soccer is by far the biggest and most important sport on Earth with over 4 Billion fans and is massive in over 240 countries. The whole world loves soccer. Rugby league and AFL are both tinpot sports. Rugby league big in only 4 countries. Afl is a tiny sport with 7 million fans and massive in 4 Australian states. Soccer will be the number 1 sport in Australia by 2050 gdhet
and the fattest grumpiest old man around
Have we got a Collingwood person out there like this?
Get into them sellers,I bleed navy blue ,it hurts to see this once mighty club play like this,McClure for president, when are these boys going stand up and fuxxing have a go
Get Walsh out of the thumbnail 🤬🤬
"give me a bunch of ratbags and you can build a team" sums up the AFL beautifully, great quote.
The Hayden Ballantyne effect
No it is living in the past. McClure is a dinosaur and quite frankly FOS
@@XXMDQ-o9y if Carlton is the future, then give me the past
@@floydgondolli7321 Heh I loved the BlueBoys of the McClure era. But talking in cliches...grumbling like a dinosaur...blah blah blah. By the way bringing Eddie back was a poor move.
a lot of them don't have any mongrel at all. Just earning a nice comfortable pay check. Most of these guys wouldn't make the squad in Seller's era.
like all professional sport teams, these days to much money and no club loyalty
big gold coast fan here, please humbly respect my team
First fix is your players don't answer the press as the whole club.
The old folk talk strategy that's top down management but the execution is bottom up. Ports problem between 2008 and 2012, it was both, reunite the club and build 40 players who buy in and DO.
The players are only as good as they are being led. This all sits with the hierarchy at the club as they appoint the staff and put the team together, if the players aren’t good enough then it’s not their fault but those that brought them into the club then failed to get the best out of them
Mark Maclure seems like a half intelligent person here, but I remeber him going off at Fev on the radio commentary, how he was lazy and useless(while being double teamed), Fev went on to kick 6 in the second half and win the game. So while he's right here, it's easy to be right about Carlton being bad atm.
Fev of all players needed a kick up the arse particularly early in his career. They helped.
Elliot’s cheating ways crueled Carlton. Like Essendon’s poor stewardship of it’s young men (I still don’t blame the players, just the club) crueled them. These things have long lasting hangovers, often in unforeseen ways. It’s tragic when the cheats harm their clubs. Cheats get caught. I’m a Tiges supporter. Thank goodness for Peggy and Brendan and integrity.
I still remember Elliot going on about how the cheating Bombers beat Carlton for a premiership and at the time he said it Carlton were doing it themselves
@@knight2425 Success hungry power hungry corrupt people ruin sport around the world. In Essendon case, they risked the health of young men who did not know any better. Glad when these maggots go belly up. But it’s a shame what damage they do to everyone else in their clubs.
Essendon self-reported because they didn't trust stephen dank then it was drawn out by the afl and asada with the media putting the boots in. As for richmond they eventually had to come good after 30 years of crap.
@@clintjohnson2245 Young men put at risk by too many in p,aces of responsibility. Denial does not help mend anything, pal.
@@glennmaillard5972 they self reported yes there where mistakes made by not knowing what dank was doing but no one else was corrupt or cheating so don't comment unless you know the facts 100%
Last 20 seconds is EXACTLY the culture Carlton need!
Good point about players having to stand up and drive the change.
Geelongs resurgence in 2007 was largely player driven and look how the club changed almost overnight.
It all started when Carlton was punished for cheating in the 1990's. Long may it continue
Your mum is embarrassed of you
Still not as bad as StKilda. Don't know why saints get off and im not a blue
But saints have a history of not winning. One premiership in a 120 years. Carlton have a history of 16 premierships and find it hard to cope when they fail
saints have been copping heaps wum
And one month later?.....worse...worse....
Bizarrely, I think Adelaide Crows will win a premiership before Carlton.
McClure is gold on ABC radio. Interesting to see him on camera.
the teage train has left the station..(building)..time for a new coach...lol
WELL SAID MARK MACLURE!!!!
It could be worse. You could follow STK.
Who is fidgeting with their f-ing pen? It’s doing my head in.
It's mark who is clicking his pen the others have normal pens he has a blue and red pen that clicks when you change the colour.
Mark's pen is one of those fat ones with the colour changing capability, but he isn't changing the colours, it's just that his specific pen seems loose in terms of the screw mechanic that connects the blue bottom part to the top colour changer part - which in turn makes the spring inside looser and thus creating a rattling noise which is amplified by being near the chest mic. And yes, annoying, but they probably wouldn't have noticed.
Crayons.
Surely a lack of confidence in the coach prompted Carlton to draft Worsfold.. Is he the right man ? His record at Essendon was not too flash ! I think his presence around the place will be a hindrance to Teague & resentment & discord will follow. Future is not looking good . Hope I'm wrong ! .
Reporter: How do you describe the culture of the Carlton Football Club?
Cain Liddle: You know, the culture here in Carlton, it's actually damn good.
Urinatingtree: The culture, huh? Yes, the culture of one of the most ineptly run shitholes in Aussie Rules footy is a standard to behold in the eyes of Cain. It doesn't matter if they're fucking terrible in most facets, they're 'winning' off the ground.
Watching this in 2023.. same questions...not tough enough,not fot enough,not strong enough your out...its afl football...id like to play that interview to the tram now on bye week
One flag in 33 years most coachs in history of AFL AND VFL ....AND Murphy just look at him he is clocking on and clocking off first out of the car .....
NINETH!!! Love the guy butting in
And long may it continue. Maclure is right, but he's only clarifying what a lot of pundits already know. Karma's IS a bitch, right Big Jack? The fish rots at the head, and its rotten from the TOP down, not the other way around.
They’re like the Brisbane Broncos rugby league team. They don’t even look like winning. I remember when Carlton was numero uno. What happened?
I can understand why fans and club legends are so upset and hurt. Almost 10 years of a rebuild and they haven't gotten very far. They thought the coach was the problem. So they kept changing coaches. They've got players who have potential. And it's sad to see as an AFL fan. That it seems that they can't apply themselves.
look at what Port has done. They were at breaking point with clubs trying to poach their best players but they recruited well and rebuilt their club in all departments. Carlton has been grabbing number one picks and priority picks yet are still rubbish. The afl needs to look at how they help clubs and the draft system as Port has proven it doesn’t take priority picks for being rubbish to become competitive!
There’s be some A grade clubs out there that’s nail em to the wall, get in one of the former hard arses, the ilk of Robert Walls to shake em up
Maclure and slobbo together… yuck ! Both have NFI. You think the players don’t want to work and play for each other? Sometimes it’s just unexplainable. One win can make a difference for a teams whole season. And one bounce of the ball can be the difference in a game. I get Carlton have had a long run of no success but Richmond was the same. Richmond turned it around and it wasn’t though firing people. It’s through continuity and backing your club to make the right decisions. Stop firing coaches and start backing yourselves
Carlton won't ever win a premiership when Marc Murphy is in the side. He's a loser and he doesn't make teammates around him better he makes then worse
I’ll go as far to say they won’t win a Premiership with Eddie Betts in the side either. Both players are too old, too slow.
Murphy and Betts can't kick more than 40m and Murphy often mongrels the ball when he tries to kick long.
U call him a loser? Wow mate
@@-ta-1 Sorry he's only won 33% of his games. Do you want me to say he's a winner? That's a complete loser to me
@@jakenorthbriz I'm pretty sure Kade Simpson's record was worse lol
I stopped being a Carlton supporter the day their cheating was exposed ... any team that considers themselves more important than the game is no team for me ... i no longer have a team and enjoy the game every bit as much as I used to.
They earned the past 20 years. It's looking like the penalty is going to be a quarter of a century
100% agree, they cheated and hopefully learnt but what is worse is during the period they were actually cheating Elliot was going on about how the bombers had cheated to steal a premiership from them. Karma has come big time to this club
Just about every AFL team has cheated. Bombers broke the cap in a premiership year in 2000 but the league did nothing until 2001 then dropped a ton of bricks on Carlton. Learn a bit more about the facts not the propaganda and you'll be surprised. Almost every club has bent the rules.
@@douglasmace7703 ... cant you read mate ?
where did i say anything about other teams not cheating??
who do i support now ???
Learn a bit more about the facts not the propaganda and you'll be surprised.
@@douglasmace7703 and like I said Elliot was harping on about how they were robbed by a cheating Essendon but his team was cheating at that time he was opening his mouth. At some stage the league has to come down hard to stop teams thinking about cheating and Carlton were the suckers. They got what they deserved and have had plenty of opportunities with the ridiculous amount of high draft picks they have used to rebuild but have failed where as other teams can be competitive without those same high draft picks
@@knight2425 yeah look, not saying any team that cheats doesn't deserve to be punished. Carlton is no different. The league however is flawed with bias and limp wristed punishment. Frankly you cant blame Carltons slump on the breach anymore. Its just a slump. St Kilda are in one since 66, Dees since 64. Dogs only just won one. We're no better or worse than Freo. I hope we win a flag but Carlton fans are quite emotional and irrational. Just have to sit and watch. Wait. Its completely out of our hands. Carn the Blues!!
I wonder what he though of last year and what he thinks now. They were great beginning last year but end of last yr and this year, they have been awful
Fkn love it. The flogs are about to fall off the cliff again! They've sold the farm and failed AGAIN 😂😂😂😂😂
It's Crunch time fiddling with that Fuck'n pen...
I "was" a passionate Tigers supporter. The game is being what I think, shortened,,, softened, and anti football!
Please, dear players!
Play your sport, and don't let ya fans down.
Go Tigers!
Go Aussie!
Let's not give up!
The day VFL was incorporated was the beginning of the end .
@@ianmcleod3631 gotta agree, my haven't things bloody changed.
Carlton need to move on half the list at least
Well said 👍🏻
Umm I go for Carlton just dont say that just say they got to get better
Good to see nothing has changed with this pathetic club
If the Blues have to sit and watch this rubbish to get motivated then there really is a problem! It is there coaches and pride in their own performance that should motivate them.
Ha! Carlton have become the new (old) Melbourne.
CarLOLton
Well looks like we're making finals 💙🤍💙
What was SOS recruiting all those years?
The best part was whe he called robbo gerrad... robbo wouldn't have slept that night..
as a carlton supporter who has only known losing i am seriously VERY close to losing all my passion for this club. losing as a fan for decade after decade can become draining.
Yes you should you can come over to the tigers we don’t mind
You were me before 2017, that and we were mocked for coming 9th with a nice song to go with it. It'll turn for Carlton eventually, you need role players like Kane Lambert and Jack Graham.
@@patkelly6349 lol
@@BillyBowlster and Martin and Cotchin and Edwards and Bolton and Prestia.
It's showing the effects of bad moves in the past. Betts (at his prime moving to Adelaide), Toohey, Kennedy to WCE to get Judd, then Fev, Robbo, Simmo... So many bad decisions, ripped out the clubs identity and passion.
3 months on and its the same situation
Did he borrow his missus's glasses????
2 years later and it's still the same story.
I am a long-term suffering Carlton supporter I think get rid of one coach for every position on the field and get back to basics and for goodness sake, teach players how to kick a straight ball, to miss a goal when you are 25 metres in front of goal is not funny. Mark, your comments are 100% correct too many yes men.
I don’t understand why they have got so many players over the years from GWS that have hardly contributed -
and it’s happening again - why would poor Cripps stay beyond this year ..? It’s quite confusing......
A major problem is that in 2021, Carlton players are being laid as much as Geelong or Richmond players. Players in terrible teams are still young, boofhead millionaires just as in he winning teams. What’s the incentive to win?
Ummm hey yes I’m a Gold Coast supporter and personally I don’t think Carlton has much to worry about their time will come soon. But if you think Carlton are bad take a look at Gold Coast we started in 09 and yet still haven’t been in finals.
Hard to disagree, we have watched many other teams start and successfully complete their rebuilds time after time while we continue to restart these so called rebuilds. Why have we maintained the same assistants through this entire process? We've got some great players on the list who will end up leaving and we'll be left with a bunch of fringe players just looking to get paid. It's hard to watch but you can't blame these guys if soon a Cripps or a Walsh asks to leave.
20 YEARS OF THIS SH1T !!!!
Carlton have been totally irrelevant for too long. The golden years are long gone. And frankly that is a shame. But it is a National comp. they will have to be patient. Loved McClure as a player but he lives in the past and is FOS.
They know we're coming
They weren’t a nice club in the 80’s. I thought from start Teague rein wouldn’t work, they need someone old & hard
Add another 2 years to that
I bet they won't have 80,000 members next year
22 years of rubbish...