There needs to be some undercover boss kind of thing where people pose as students and get inside to personally witness these abuses to expose the schools directly. Like a secret official inspector to catch creeps in the act.
@@alicianelson1252 If they wanted their kids to spend less time online, they should've stopped them by taking away their phone or actually taking time to spend with them.
these schools and centers are extremelyyyyy manipulative. even in the us, similar facilities are super popular (they still exist cause legal loopholes) because the parents are lied to about what really goes on in them and stuff. its called the troubled teen industry, theres some research papers you can find on google scholar if youre interested. like this kind of thing has been happening for years and years and years and it has roots in cults, if they can break their students minds so much that they accept basically becoming slaves they can definitely brainwash their parents into thinking their childs behavior is perfectly fine and how it should be, or that even the kidnapping thing is the only viable option to transfer them safely into the facility. that being said, parents ABSOLUTELY have the responsibility to research any school/facility they send their children into and to put their childs safety above any sense of glamour or whatever the academy gave to them. its a bit of a tricky situation considering both sides of the issue but i do agree the parents definitely should be punished by law in some way.
also im talking about these kinds of centers in general, not just this specific one cause you would be surprised how many exist and function to this day
Why would one even want to send their kid to a strict school... the kidnapping thing puts me off. It's so stupid to go ahead with it. These parents are criminals equally.
@moawajjuni3 Another youtuber named Azeal did an interview with two kids who went to one of these wilderness centers. You cam find the full interview in the livestreams tab, and a shortened version with the rest of the videos. I personally recommend the full length version. It shows you how bad these places can really be. He also did interviews with a few others in similar places to this in his videos.
these "rehab schools" exist in many parts of the world, including America. one of the most notable survivors being Paris Hilton, who's been actively trying to shut down the torture facility and save the kids trapped in them
What!? Oh man I always thought Paris seemed like a sweet girl and her mom always appears to be a loon! Where can I find the story or interview on UA-cam??
There's a difference between being "obedient" and being tortured into submission. Those parents chose to ignore the blatant red flags. I blame the parents. They decided to have children and then send them to a "school" where they were tortured everyday in the most inhumane ways possible.
Honestly I don't believe the parents when they said they heard faint screams, I believe they heard a full on screams but chose to ignore it when they saw how well behaved all the children are they chose to ignore the red flags and chose to ignore everything wrong with that place.
This really touched me. In the US, there were several ranches that practiced these types of methods. Probably not to this extent. I remember working with a young woman that told me she had gone through a total deprogramming. She says that was the key to her success. Those poor babies. I would be imitating spiderman (on the walls of that school) if I couldn't talk to my children.
I would not want to have anything to do with my parents if I found out they were ok with the academy assaulting me, beating me, starving me and stripping me off any humanity, apparently "for my own good". I cannot imagine trusting my parent after that. These parents who were against shutting the academy down despite knowing all the details are vile.
Those parents should be put through wtf their kids were put thru then let’s see wtf they have to say how evil and fucking stupid must you be to support abuse, torture, starving, etc It would be fucking disgusting and horrible if it was the parents In there but since it’s happening to their kids it doesn’t matter.? As long as it’s not then in the silent room being tortured they don’t give af that’s fucked up they should have their children taken away asap clearly they aren’t in the right mindset to be easing themselves lead alone their fucking children really pisses me off
I don't, but it wasn't for an academy, it was for their church. Sold over to them, they did satanic crap r wording and killing many others, I was supposed to di. But I ran. The rage I feel for them is indescribable!!
genuinely from the bottom of my heart I cant fathom hearing that kids were sexually abused, malnourished to the point of mouth ulcers, physically abused, etc - and to think "its for ur own good" I CANNOT imagine this
Nurse here- fun fact, really sad fact, laundry detergent of any kind IS CORROSIVE. Also when we “pump your stomach” we put an NG tube down your nose to your stomach specifically so you DO NOT vomit up corrosive substances and stomach acid. During the pumping process we also have specific agents we use, depending on the agent ingested, to neutralize as much of the material as possible. So throwing up is the exact OPPOSITE of what you should be doing after ingesting corrosive substances. Eating charcoal does NOT save the situation. Proper emergency medical treatment saves lives.
So, what's the best thing to do if you don't have access to medical care? I mean, throwing up can't be worse than having the toxin go through your digestive system, can it?
@@aon02b When you dial emergency services, they will tell you what to do based on the exact nature of the substance you/others have accidentally consumed.
@@aon02b it makes it much worse because the corrosive substances would be traveling back up your esophagus and severely burning everything in the process
You can not tell me her parents completely ignored the fact that their daughter was tied up & dragged out of the house. There’s no way they thought she was being taken to a prestigious school
@@Adelicows In no way am I trying to be mean like you were to me, but do you know what prestigious means? In my comment, I was not talking about the parents that were rallying, I was talking about the ones that were defending their choice to send them to that school & blaming it on being oblivious to what was going on behind closed doors. Of course some of the children of these set of parents could’ve been dropped off, but there’s a chance that some were tied up like the girl in the beginning. What I was trying to say is that if there was a parent that claimed they didn’t know the school was causing their child any harm & wanted it to be shut down, but also turned a blind eye to how they were taken there in the first place…that’s insane
Obviously the staff at this "school" are pure evil, but the parents are also *awful* people. To ignore the state of these children just so your kid can be at this "prestigious" place is morally repugnent. You can dress the school up for parent day, but you can't hide that the kids were zombies, robots, shells of their former selves. No good parent could ignore how broken these kids became
so many parents will refuse to realize sometimes children have traits they dislike and that doesn't mean a fault in their kid. I've always been opinionated and stubborn. I had it systematically removed from me and it made me feel a shell of myself, but I sure was agreeable. In healing, I'm that way again. sometimes people don't like it, sometimes they do, but my parents HATE it. they saw it as mental illness. as an adult it's simply a trait. as a teenager it was disobedience, something bad to be ripped out.
@@Senjamin I am so sorry you went through that. I think being opinionated and standing your grand makes you strong, I wish I was more like you. I'm glad you're ok now.
@@NeyamRye No, no they really don't. In my own family I am considered a piece of property not a person (despite being a full adult now) and tragically too many go through the same. Parents with a god-complex are a terrible reality for too many kids.
Abuse doesnt raise respectful adults, it destroys human beings. There are so many stories in these comments of their own torture school experiences and i am proud of each and every one of you for continuing on and striving for a better tomorrow. Healing is not linear and i know it can feel pointless at times to continue. But you were robbed of happiness and you deserve to take that happiness back. Make your own happiness.
theres a saying - strict parents dont make obedient kids, they make sneaky ones (or something like that) and this comment embodies that saying very much.
@@grey.themusiccatMy mother said the same thing about her upbringing, it's why she never laid a hand on me or my sister. We turned out happier for it.
The obsession with Confuscius seems really weird too. They're going against several of the core principals of what he taught, it's like they're picking and choosing only the most authoritarian ideas while ignoring the balance that comes with it. While he did extol the virtues of obedience in a hierarchical system, he also understood the dangers that came when the wrong person was at the top, generally suggesting that in such a case, it was important for those under them to provide peaceful remonstration. Brutally punishing people into never speaking up even when authority is completely antithetical to those teachings. If they were really obsessed with him, they should have also read the classics and been aware of Menscius' parable of the Farmer of Song. This wasn't just pulling on the grain, it was straight up uprooting it. That environment outright made it impossible for these children to cultivate their virtues.
The fact that some parents have the audacity to side with the so called ACADEMY is totally disgusting. Thanks again Stephanie for sharing this horrible ,horrible case of human abuse.
We have this issue around the world in America its a habitual issue as we are one of only 2 countries who refuse to sign the international rights of the child
@@Allyourbase1990there are US companies that run similar schools in places like Puerto Rico and the Philippines, far from prying eyes. Usually the death of a child is what draws attention to them.
@@lynnlynn9124oh my god, they do that shit abroad too? Do they ship american children off to those schools or do they "service" the local population? I had only heard about the ones inside the US, this is shocking
The fact that the serial killers are living in prison which have beds,drinkable water, an actual good amount of food for the whole day,a toilet and have clothes on which means they have a safe atmosphere but those innocent kids who have done nothing are forced to live like this helplessly is just heartbreaking NO KID DESERVES THIS 💔
I’m still traumatized at 28 thinking back to 12 years ago when I was in one of these places… secretly calling my mom BEGGING her to help me escape or else I would off myself, and then watching the administrator tell my mom “don’t listen to her she’s just trying to get out to keep up with her same patterns”. Luckily I escaped in the middle of the night… was chased about 2 miles by a tech before they gave up following me… flagged down a police officer and fold him the situation I was in… and he was like “oh yes we know all about that place”… he brought me to a Hampton inn where they let me stay the night for free and I BEGGED my mom to fly me home the next day… Which after the way she saw how I ran off into the street like that.:: she agreed. I’m still traumatized 12 years later
If my parents ever did this to me i would never speak or see them ever again. I wouldn't even care if they didn't know how bad it was, they would be loosing their child.
In my country, there have recently been some cases of nursing homes with similar conditions, plus forced labor on a farm for about 10-15 hours a day... I think it would be a good way to show your gratitude for the education provided...
These children felt safe at home, where they felt protected and could let their guards down in a vulnerable state just to be taken in the middle of the night to some academy and be physically and mentally tortured. The sense of betrayal they must have felt !!!!
Emily Harper Has A Few Really Well Done/Thoroughly Detailed Storytimes About Her Time At The School For Troubled Girls & Their Crvel & Unusual Pvnishments. I Went To Multiple Youth Shelters That Are Considered "Troubled Teen" Facilities & They're Awful.
Nah these parents knew. They may not have known in detail but the f*cking knew. There’s no way you see your daughter getting TIED UP and DRAGGED OUT of your home and think “yeah this is normal” there’s no way you don’t notice the signs. If there’s any love for your kid then you will notice. Every adult involved deserves what they deserve and I will leave it at that. I CANNOT imagine doing that to a child. It’s disgusting.
I know right. Like I see people saying "oh they didn't know" okay even if they didn't know all of it, how in the world as an adult with a fully grown brain, can they ever consider the practice of kidnapping their own kids as totally acceptable?? Like cmon lets be real
@@hadiyapinky9091 Even with the parents "not knowing" regardless, WHY? Just why would you still send them to that place? Even if they didn't know how bad it was going to be, the parents did it for selfish reasons. THEIR reasons. Not for their kids. They wanted their child to be fixed and obedient and now they're traumatized
Depends. I can’t say in China, but in the US there are definitely teens going down a bad path that many parents can’t handle. Not video games or on their phone, which is nothing, but vandalism, petty crimes, car wrecks, theft, drugs, etc. The parents get local counseling…the teen thinks its stupid, often won’t get in the car to go and little changes. The parent can’t really make a screaming violent 17-year-old listen to them, or even stop them from running out of the house at night, or from stealing the car keys after being told no. Then what? The parents can just let the kid keep raging and saying school is stupid so why go, until jail or worse, or try to reach them for the 256th time of why their life is off track which never works, or turn to one of the “troubled teen” industry, that often dresses itself up as psychiatric care and counseling. Some parents turn to the troubled teen camps, and no surprise that 99% of the 16-17 year olds say “nope, not going, when told they are enrolled in a troubled teen program. They can say “well…guess that’s it” or they can force the teen to go using parental authority. There should never be beatings or abuse like this, but parents can be between a rock and a hard place…,they are blamed for the teen going bad, and they are blamed for trying to turn teens around before their first jail sentence.
The fact that parents could be far away from their children for years, drop them off and not even look back, have no issue when they’re seeing 4 huge men tying and carrying their child. Absolutely horrendous.
Every Child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child. I can’t believe some of parents even spoke in favour of the “Academy”. It’s appalling. What kind of deranged and sick parents will still stand by the “teachers” side after finding out how these children were stripped off, abused and exposed to these horrible conditions. This is so unforgivable. The psychological trauma & physical abuse that these young people are going to live with for the rest of their lives.
@@TJ-bn2cnWhat an odd thing thing to criticize. Who cares if the phrase is used a lot, it’s still relevant to this video. Idk why you have such high expectations for a random commenter on the internet to say something completely original and never heard before? She doesn’t owe you anything.
Horrific case of parents not treating their children like humans, you would never do this to an adult so why do you feel comfortable doing it to your child
Well, this isn't their CHILD they would do that to...this would be their 'proof that I am a perfect mother', or "proof that my husband's seed is virile and amazing and superior to everyone else's". These are 'parent-replacements', not children who have their own likes and wishes and hopes and dreams; they are Mommy's Little Angel or Daddy's Perfect Business Partner! And if they're NOT that, then they need to BECOME perfect, like their parents are! A little 'sternness' is necessary sometimes...
You won’t understand. The value of human life and human dignity is irrelevant in most Asian cultures. It’s not just China. Even in South Korea the hierarchy and respect for the authority are above a child’s or an adult’s rights and freedoms. And it’s absolutely normal.
Parents need to realise that there are SICK adults out there who will absolutely enjoy harming their child. Parents who are so blindly trusting of these "professionals" (who are never qualified) need to be arrested for neglect.
The parents are sick first. They are the sick ones who will not raise their children by realistic standards. They know what shit their kids go through.
@@onaclover-coveredhill9618theres actually a ex spy who would argue that a certain amount of trauma could help the child grow. So I don't really blame them since other people do stuff like kicking 18 year olds out as soon as they're able because they did their job yknow.. but karma is sweet because when they're old I won't bat an eyelash when they send them to a home or just break contact altogether. If your relationship with your child is just raising them cool. But don't expect that person you only raised conditionally to be there when you need it 😊
I believe some of these parents are just as sadistic as this "school staff". My grandpa used to spank my mom and her siblings for trivialities, in one instance, he hit my mom with a wooden spoon til the point of her almost losing consciousness. He was one of those parents, for sure.
The saddest thing for me is the kids who were tricked into going there by the parents, pretending they were going on a road trip. Like maybe if you went on trips and engaged with your kids more often, they wouldn't be looking for the engagement on their phones.
Yeah like.... just play with your kids. Do board game nights, watch TV together, get into games with them, have them help you with cooking and teach them basic skills in the process... It's not that hard to get kids off their phones.
By the sounds of it, the kids were probably also pretty excited too- even if they didn’t show it at first. These kids got to spend time with their parents on a fun road-trip, stress-free. I could never imagine being betrayed in such a horrendous way :(
Something that really sucks is many kids stay inside and play videogames because we learned from our parents that Outside is dangerous. But playing indoors makes parents freak out too and criticize our activities. Imagine being conditioned to stay inside your Safe Home and then your own parents arrange a kidnapping.
You do it cause you think outside is dangerous? Or because playing is addicting and fun and the opportunities for social interaction offline have decreased
Just imagine being the 9 year old girl (who presented rebellion) being thrown into silent room naked ,getting out and presenting rebellion but getting in there again to break her completely. Just a little 9 year old ,like are you for real? ALL THE YOUNG 9-10 YEAR OLDS AREN'T EVEN TEENAGERS. Feeling absolutely terrible just imaging about her condition then and the trauma after getting out of there. Shame on her parents.
I don’t blame any of the other kids for not standing up but this little girl was a hero. She kept courage for so long, imagine who she would have grown into if she hadn’t been abused.
People usually do that with mental problems teenagers,they called the mental doctor and take them away in their sleep ,not children that is just wrong the child will grow up even more reckless and don’t want to listen to both,parents and do drug or kill a person’s to go to jail and run way from home at an early age.
I'm not a mother, but a daughter and i'm fighting my tears, imagining, what these poor students had to went through. These "parents" that don't believe their children are disgusting excuses of human beings. They don't deserve to be parents.
"If I'm genuinely having a good time with my parents I'm not going to be on my phone." As a mother of two preteens, this is the best form of feedback every parent needs to hear! Well put!
As a preteen that stays on the phone or outside biking most of the day because I don't want to talk with my parents, I ended up crying when she said that sentence :(
Fr if parents spend time with they’re kids/teens than the kids/teens wouldn’t be always on they’re phones and also if kids are looking at a device it doesn’t mean that they’re addicted to it 😕
my horse was hog tied by her past owners whenever she got her hooves trimmed, she has a shit ton of trauma from it and its taken years to teach her that getting her hooves being trimmed and even touched doesn't mean shes going to be hurt and that what she experienced wasnt normal in the slightest
Okay hog tying a horse is just actually insane, like, that doesn’t sound safe for anyone involved what in the hell kind of decision making… your poor horse! :((
The pure panic in the mans voice when the headmaster came to visit, it broke my heart. You could just hear how he was instantly taken back to the abuse, he sounded like scared kid and all I wanted was to rush through my PC and hug him.
How could you see this as "zen" when they tied your kids up and kidknapped them? That is not normal. These parents are not normal. This is actual insanity. They should be the ones locked up.
These parents and the adult torturers need to be treated the same way they treated those kids. This injustice is so ridiculous Edit: ok I can’t believe this. I was so frustrated I look more into this and I found an article on Chinadaily, keep in mind I don’t know if this is true or not but apparently some of the teachers who were in prison can get their teaching license back in 5 years or less. You can hear the pockets on the judges getting heavier🤦♀️ “According to the judgement of the court, Wu was sentenced to two years and 10 months in prison and barred from working in the education sector for five years. Ren was sentenced to two years and seven months in prison, and obtained a ban of the same duration. In addition, Zhang Shun and Qu Wenkuan, two other defendants, were given sentences of 22 months and 11 months in prison respectively, and both were prohibited from working in the education system for three years.”
@@ch3rrybl0ss0m3evwhat I don’t understand is how parents could not have know if their child was literally abducted to go there. I’ve seen this in the US too when a kid is sent to one of those “wilderness learning” schools for behavioral problems or like conversion therapy places but is not a huge red flag that a school is willing to offer abduction as a way of sending the kid to school??? I guess I can sort of see the parents who dropped off and ran as being more easily fooled but it’s still such a red flag I just don’t understand
@@ch3rrybl0ss0m3ev The plain existence of such a facility is illegal in my country. And kidnapping a person, even if it's with the consent of their parents, if they're minors, even if they don't tie and torture them, is illegal. It doesn't matter if parents knew HOW bad it was going to be, or not, every single thing about this is illegal and for a very good reason. Imagining saying "I just wanted my child to get a little bit of PTSD, not to be tortured and striped of their human everything" and thinking it's less bad that way. Not to mention that this still also means that they gave their kid to strangers, without knowing what those will do to them.
This is why I hate “traditional” asian parent’s expectations of blind obedience and filial piety. And it’s so much worse if you’re a daughter because of all the feminine virtues and obedience bs that they force on you from birth. It’s so hard for us to deal with intergenerational trauma when it is so deeply woven into Asian cultures
@@rizkiramadhan9266I would like to say, if your experiencing trauma or anything that came from your own despicable parents, there's NOT A SINGLE REASON to NOT seek help. AND TBH, health matter more than family because you matter more than anything else. Of course, God comes first always, but then 2nd place comes YOU. Pray to God, if you need help. This is what happens when you don't pray to God.
Parents also sent their children to Yuzhang Academy to "cure" their homosexuality. It wasn't just "internet addiction" the school pretended to treat while torturing children. Around 20 students also claimed to have been sexually assaulted by the founder, Wu Junbao. The speculated victims are as young as 12 years old, both female and male. Sexual harassment is already hard to trace in terms of evidence, and in this case it was almost impossible given the long time span between the harassment event and investigation.
It scares me a bit that when you just google "Wu Junbao" you find very little other than a forbes article about him being "the largest individual shareholder in China East Education, one of the largest providers of vocational training in China." No top links about Yuzhang at all when just googling his name and nothing else
That breaks my heart. They were just kids. What a horrible monster. I hope he finds himself in a fate worse than hell. Might be harsh, but that is what he did to hundreds of kids. I hope the kids find healing
Not surprised he did that after everything else he did and what they all did to the 20 Yr old. Fucking sick. I suspect Yung prob had worse than he said too, but was prob too ashamed to say it.
It’s insane how anyone can logically think “oh they’ve completely submitted and are ‘obedient’ 10 days after we sent them here! They’re a completely different person!” AND NOT THINK THAT IS A HUGE RED FLAG???
With the bit about involuntary commitment: I saw it happen firsthand. A woman was brought into the mental hospital I was staying at, spitting and screaming, because she was SA'd, and for the THIRD TIME, the police did nothing. She had been assaulted twice before then. Out of frustration she muttered- not yelled, or even said at a normal volume, but MUTTERED- "I'm so done with this sh!t," and that's all they needed to lock her up in the hospital under the pretense that it was indicative that she was going to try and attempt on her life. The hospital was atrocious and involuntarily committed anyone who tried to sign themselves out early, but that instance was the worst, and that's just what I saw in the two weeks it took me to get out. The law is constantly used to abuse and exploit the vulnerable, and it's misery.
This!!!! People could see what a nut my mother is but still didn’t help. She would stress me out so bad I felt constantly insecure and unsure of myself, had chronic migraines, and learning problems. I also liked other kids but could not socialize normally. Now looking back I realize I wasn’t delusional and I even had a behavioral therapist tell me I should respect my mothers crazy choices even though it affected me because “she’s the mother, not you”and you “can’t control other’s action” as if that was an appropriate time to apply that. I do have some incurable problems like hypothyroidism but I believe she intentionally made me feel like I would never be capable of losing weight, getting a proper education, having friends that truly cared, feel beautiful again, etc. I would have an outburst every now and again because of the abuse and she tried to gaslight me into thinking I was the one with problems. I genuinely believe she was trying to make me useless to anyone but her self. Looking back it’s clear as day. She was jealous any time I got attention from the opposite sex. The moment I had a bf I was a whore. She only wanted me to have a job when she could have the money. She wanted me to get SSI for my migraines but only so I could give it to her. I still put up with her to this day and I don’t know why I can’t just stop caring about people. Now I have a kid but I moved back in because she had so much backrent and was going to be evicted. She’s old now and still acts bat shite insane. I ended up being in debt to save her ass and people don’t understand it’s not just something that’s easy to walk away from. It’s the brainwashing and feeling obligated, the rumors, etc.
All the kids In the facilities I went were involuntary, the worst part is most the time they’ve just runaway from the abuse and got sent to a psychiatric facility which exposed them to that abusive environment (my facilities, around 10 times including residentials abused the kids). The completely normal kids there however later developed problems they weren’t exposed to until then, especially eating disorders and addiction problems. Eating disorders are for the hospital, not grouping a bunch of anorexics and bulimics to compete with eachother, I would know, they all made me and I made them want to starve even more, by being enabling even if it’s not intentional. This does not scratch the surface, I was at 15 about to become a 16 year old heroin addict, I desperately needed a detox or rehab but they couldn’t find the effort to look for one that accepts minors, they enabled all mental illnesses and behaviors, and there wasn’t even treatment, health consequences as well. After I got kicked out the second time I did every drug by time I was 16. I’m clean now, and I hope the friends I made in there will make it too.
@@letsgoalready5515I’m so sorry about your experiences. You deserve so much more, I’m glad you got to see at least some of the truth of what happened to you, unfortunately a lot of professionals in the mental health industry are incompetent, and health industry. Take it from a future doctor who’s lived in hospitals all their life. Cutting an abusive parent out is an incredibly difficult choice, I hope one day you don’t have to deal with her, she is not your obligation, you are beautiful and seen by others who’ve felt the same.
@@Flutterhigh444hospitals meant to help the hurt but instead they make the wound bigger or make a wound when there wasn’t one from the beginning. Heartbreaking to hear, my worst fear is not to be believed and forced into a mental hospital and lose all my own freedom of choice. Its sick how they ignore those who need the help but won’t leave those who are okay alone. Gaslighting as a big system or operation hidden. We gotta make mental health care mich more better and HUMANE, empathy and actual caring. Just cuz its a mental problem does not mean people should not have the right to their own autounamy!
@@letsgoalready5515 i'm so sorry you had to go through that, i do hope you seek therapy anyway you can if not for you then for your child so you can be rid of your mother and start healing so the trauma you experienced doesn't effect your child to the same degree (because you live with ur mother not suggesting u are abusive)
I can’t believe her “parents” paid for her to be kidnapped and taken to a torture academy. So disgusting… Her “parents” don’t deserve to be parents at all Like everyone is probably saying: All kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids.
Well…the parents didn’t know that how they got treated like that. Btw, Paris Hilton got tortured in same type school in USA and her parents got her kidnap while she’s sleeping in her own bedroom.
@@happymunchkin2812they didn’t decide to investigate the place/do their research before sending their kids there. They didn’t even try to notice any red flags when they got shown a “tour”. If your kids don’t even glance at you and they all look miserable, you’d think that this place is dangerous. Don’t even get me started on the kidnapping aspect. ..
Paris Hilton is a bigger person than I am , I would have never looked back at my parents ever again in life and start making life,without them knowing not even what state I'm in
I'm a WWASP survivor (SCL) and a lot of the other kids I was in the program with were kidnapped. That shit is beyond traumatizing, just as the programs are and were. Most of us have diagnosed PTSD from it all. I still have nightmares and anxiety issues (including PTSD) despite being 15 when I was put into SCL and being 40 now. Also 10k/semester is cheap. My family paid $80k/year for SCL to torture me and that was back in 1999 & 2000.
I wish I could give you a hug because I could never imagine experiencing that. I would never talk to my parents ago but also I hope that you were able to recover even a little bit
What I find crazy is that some people want kids but what they actually want is a cute baby, not a growing human. Then they send away their teens to these camps because they can’t handle having a teenage. These people don’t deserve to be parents it’s disgusting
THIS. it's so irresponsible and it's why i absolutely despise those baby crazy parents. they want a romanticised idea of a child and not the lifelong responsibility of raising one. it's selfish. people do the same with pets too. they treat pets and children like fucking commodities, like a birthday gift or a reward or a thing to flaunt on social media. the only thing that's stopping them from leaving kids on the streets the way they leave pets is the sense of guilt which society has (FORTUNATELY) managed to instill into the brains of these sickos
so reall, i encountered a middle aged woman who doesn't like their kids anymore because they grown into a person with dignity and opinion, like cant parents understand that their children do need to grow up and make decisions too and be a parent too...
@@april.4045same.For summer I worked with an neglectful mother who blamed her older son for having issues and blaming him saying he faked it.She obv picked her younger son over the older one and she is suprised that her husband wants to divorce her for the sake of their children becuz she ruined the family mentally
Prisoners that commit actual crimes , even petophiles are treated better in prison than these innocent children, just disgusting . There is a similar case I believe in USA as well , but this seemed worse in its own way.
I've heard of these schools here in the US. And it's literally the same type of abuse and torture. They just try to minimize the facts so that it seems it was less serious than it was.
@@andromedamessier3176 I don't know much about boot camp but can I safely assume that the participants get to have clothes and regular food? Even toilet facilities? I imagine there's some intense training where there's temporary restrictions on things like food, toilet and sleep but not for ages, yeah?
@@kentario1610 it basically a military camp for bad kids that do drug and crimes etc. Yeah! You get foods, clothes, and housing. You won’t get beaten nowadays last I heard. They are just extremely strict.
I dont care if people think I am a psycho, if this happened to me I would have paid a group of people to do the same thing to my parents, period. Sometimes it is better to let people test their own medicine. Poor kids they lost all trust in people. The first trust and love you will learn from is your parents.
You know the first thing I thought about was how I would just gouge out the eyes of the teachers , with a pencil,while they were sleeping. One at the time. And when she was describing girls uncloging the toilet with bare hands, I thought ,how I would just scoop the poop and showe it directly in the mouth of the teacher. Im definitely a little off.
@@cica9272 Oh God we are all psycho 😂. But yeah, it is hard to understand how they came up with this kind of torture, it is so evil. I still can't stop thinking about this case.
I live in Utah, and these "rehabilitation facilities" are very common here. Paris Hilton had a similar experience at Provo Canyon School and has been fighting to shut them down ever since. Parents will send their kids from out of state and out of the country. There's a massive rap sheet of injuries, trauma, and even death that comes out of these places. Kids have died from suicide, escape attempts, and "restraints" from Staff members. I have a friend who was sent to a wilderness therapy camp in high school, and she came back sickly, depressed, and weighing 15 lbs lighter after only 6 months. She opened up about being beaten, starved, refused showers for weeks, sexually harassed, bullied by staff, and just horrifically mistreated all around. She was 16. These places are literal torture, and they're still legal and very, very common.
parents who send teens away to ANY sort of 'camp' are so wrong. They do it because they can't handle the growth a teen needs to learn on their own. They don't like how their child is trying to gain independence and become an individual. These parents are obviously narcissists that can't deal with raising a teen, they want their teen to obey them.
I don't think that's a totally fair assessment. Some people have teenagers with legitimate behavioral issues and want to help their kids but don't know how. From what I've heard, these camps are universally horrible, but not everybody knows that. You can argue that parents should do their research, and you would be right. But if no one has spoken out against a particular camp, can you blame them for not knowing? Edit: I assume you're talking about the mental health camps that are advertised as a sort of retreat but seem to always turn out to be horribly abusive.
@@meaniezucchini5216 Any 'camp' that promises parents their teen will 'behave' after. It inherently attracts narcissistic parents. Teens who have legitimate behavior problems need psychiatric help. NOT some 'boot camp' for teens.
Actually, I think it's mostly bad parenting. Thry were incapable of educating and disciplining their children, and they preferred letting someone else deal with their own failure. I worked as a nanny for 15 years, I had employers that taught their kids about boundaries, and other parents that let their children treat everyone like scum without any consequences, and even make excuses for their horrid behaviour. Once they can't handle the child's behaviour, they blame it on the child rather than look at themselves. In my previous job, I took away treats for bad behaviour, only for the parents to throw even nicer ones at the misbehaving child as a consequence of screaming, crying and throwing tantrums. Children easily copy negative behaviour, if they think they get away with it, and get even better treats for misbehaving.
@meaniezucchini5216 most parents that can't control their teenagers are the ones that never taught discipline, respect and boundaries. If you're too lazy to tach your child about kindness, respect, consequences to bad behaviour, you'll have an even worse teenager on your hands. And once these children become adults...that's scary!
@@caitlinhammons2437 Most of the camps I've seen have advertised themselves as mental health retreats, not boot camps. It may be the case that they attract narcissistic parents, but I don't think it's fair to assume every parent who sends their kid to one is a narcissist.
Hasn't Paris Hilton been through that too? I really believe parents who do this to their children and allow all this traumitizing things to happen are either mentally challenged or really evil and sadistic... Even listening to their stories is soul crushing.
Yes, this happened to Paris Hilton. The Troubled Teen Industry in the United States uses the same tactics, and it’s apparently 100% legal over there. Children have no rights in the so called LaNd oF tHe FrEe.
My ex went through this and worst here in America. They were literally thrown into the forest naked for weeks by themselves without food, water or shelter. The stories this guy told me tore my heart to pieces. I understood his demons… how can someone function normally in society after the abuse they endured for years. I pray for clarity so these parents don’t look past the red flags and give their children unnecessary scars.
What was this called? I am going through something similar after my family was looked into by WAYNE BLACK AND ASSOCIATES. They virtually mentally torture me and hundreds if not thousands.
@@Princessinprayer I’m really sorry to hear that. I never got the name of the program but this was around 15 years ago. From what he told me this program picked them up in the middle of the night and drove them on a van and drive somewhere for over 18 hrs. Eventually they reached the woods (can’t remember which state but I think North Carolina or a southern state) and they were stripped naked and then taken to the woods where they would have to survive with nothing … they would get checked on after a week or two to make sure they were alive. I think this went on for 6 weeks but also he told me he had no exact idea of the time he spend there. Eventually he was taken to a boarding school but still ran by the same people I think. I’m pretty sure the school was in New York and it was filled with nothing but rich RICH kids. I don’t know if this is still around since it was many years ago but basically this is all the info I remember.
@@Princessinprayerim so sorry.. i searched that on google and rarely got much to know but if they are doing that to you.. ask for help maybe from police or someone or assemble the people together who are going through same... i hope it gets better... this is so sad
Many things but one was given in the video:"I/We didn't know." with the implication that they wouldn't have done it if they knew(and because in that ignoring it in part that they did do it).
They don't care what the child thinks, or anyone else. It's like they somehow just feel justified. My "parents" did this for their church to me. They have no guilt in them at all. None
My grandma always says things like "You don't understand as a kid but someday you'll thank me for making you into a good person. Then you'll be sorry I'm gone and cry." No, I don't actually. PTSD is debilitating AF.
That idiom "Every child deserves a parent but not every parent should have a child" is brought to life by the so-called parents in this case. How could parents let their kids get kidnapped and not know something is incredibly wrong? Great job, as usual, Steph.
Your future hubby said it right : it all stems from parenting and it’s EVERYWHERE! I feel horrible for how they were treated NO ONE deserves that. The punishment of the head master is a disgrace! Thank you for all your hard work with these videos I look forward to them ❤
I went to a place very similar to that academy 35 years ago, in the US. I've never recovered. I'm still 11 years old in a lot of ways; in others, I'm 90. What I went through tainted everything I've done since, and I can't live a normal life. That's what these kids have to look forward to. I only hope they can get help.
Reminds me of Paris Hilton's documentary; her parents had her sent to Provo (a reform school) in simliar abduction-style from bed, putting her through physical, mental, and sexual abuse for almost a year. Crazy how this is happening in the US too
I was bawling my eyes out just by listening to this horrific thing. The trauma the students have is unimaginable. 1:07:38 You can feel that girl's pain just by listening to her speak.
They have a similar thing in America. The wilderness academy retreats. Usually they’re religious based and it’s a lot of psychological and physical abuse that parents pay for their “wayward” teens to go. It’s horrifying that anyone could do this to their child.
Lmao the wilderness retreats are NOTHING like this. They don't lock you in a small room with feces smeared everywhere. They don't make you unclog toilets with your bare hands. They don't beat you. The schools for Native Americans like 100+ years ago, and Élan and Dozier School which both closed in 2011 are the exceptions, not the norm. Not even military schools for "troubled teens" are this bad.
I went to one when I was 14. You have no idea what happens their. I still have nightmares about that shit. We hiked part of the Appalachia trail. It turned into something like lord of the flies.
I was going to say, I would love if Stephanie covered some of the TTI cases in the U.S. So many of these kids are still fighting for justice and there's still people being sent to these institutions. I just read about a 17 year old girl (Taylor Goodridge) that passed away from a treatable case of sepsis because the people at Diamond Ranch Academy refused to seek medical treatment for her. That poor girl.
These parents need to be JAILED!!! I would have disowned my parents after this whether they knew about the academy or not. I don't know how someone could ever trust their parents again. Nah It's over between us. Their getting shipped off to a nursing home to die alone when I'm grown🤷♀️
As a teenage girl, this now scares me, thinking that my mom and dad might do this to me. I would probably be so scared, and have so many bad thoughts, I feel really bad for all the kids and teenagers that had to go through this and think that! I'm gonna hope that things get better for them, so they can at least live a normal life without thinking back to those bad memories! ♡
If anyone here is from the United States and is unaware, this is not an isolated incident. This is not just something that happens in China or even Asia in general. There are so many programs like this out there and they still continue to thrive. They love marketing these places as wilderness programs or therapeutic boarding schools when, in actuality, they just force kids to obey. Please look into the troubled teen industry if you are seeing this. It is absolutely heinous how they are still operating. I really hope to live to see the day that they are all shut down and owners jailed.
@@karinam.183 I remembered hearing about it because they described him as having "behavioral issues" and that the camp was in the desert and that it had behavior correcting activities for him, but that camp is notrious for not being safe for children sent there. I think they reason they even sent him there was because they also thought he was spending too much time on his phone.
I remember hearing about the Elan school when I first learned about these “rehabilitation” programs which are literal torture and should have long since been banned
Do you feel like the family’s trust was deceived by the academy’s? I also could see how society’s pressures or standard to have discipline had created a safety net around these institutions and the schools practices weren’t checked bc of the “effective” results produced. I wonder what other modern examples there are of this???
The fact that some parents knew that they were getting tortured is so sickening. If you really “loved” ur child and “just wanted the best for them” wouldn’t you want to be there for them? Wouldn’t you want to make memories WITH them. Wouldn’t you want to Love them everyday and not send them to a sickening torturing “school”. These parents couldn’t survive a DAY in this school. All these parents are disgusting and just unbelievable. And I haven’t even STARTED about these teachers. Imagine you have to take a deep breath and then you get called up to the front of the classroom and get hit with a metal ruler. Imagine doing your work but misspelling 1 word and getting hit with that. And the fact that the head master came to Leo’s house and just LAUGHED about what he did and what TRAUMA he gave the kids is so sickening. AND the fact that they only got 2 YEARS in prison in just wrong. Imagine spending your whole life in basically hell and then the evil devils who ruined your life only got punished for 2 years. I am disgusted by the teachers,the PARENTS,the COPS?! this is just utterly ridiculous and disgusting
This is basically the troubled teen industry!! It’s awful how much of a global problem this is. My heart goes out to the survivors and those who have died in these horrible systems.
I hope all these parents also get prison time! You are clearly mentally unwell if you think after 10 days your kid can completely change. Absolutely disgusting 🤮.
i went to a similar academy in china, obviously it didnt have the stripe u from ur sanity part, with the rooms, and poop. but it did have the beatings, the confucius statue, the memorizations. when i was listening to this episode it gave me so much flash back to when i was at that school. i accused my mother even now for sending me to that school, i would even ask her why she did it, and she would always reply with, disciplining my children, she never considered the abuse factor of it. the school was bulldozed later on bc it was an illegally built building, not bc of the beatings but bc it was too close to the yellow river. edit: who is confucious? he is a philosopher from way back in chinas history, they wrote books about proper discpline and "way of life" ig, he also had disciples whom are also included in the books. there are also other philosophers talking about different studies and such. whats really bad is the fact that "confucionism" is widely spreading in china and is becoming apart of regular chinese education now, without the beatings ofcourse. but the books they wrote are from thousands of years ago, just by reading them a child cannot understand what they are saying at all.
hey I lived in China as a little kid and went to school there too. It was kindergarten when I experienced the abuse too but unfortunately my brothers had it worse. The rulers were used and humiliation. I didn’t experience that but the teachers yelling at me and the students and how we had to be “disciplined” was basically an abuse of power. I thought maybe it was just an incident where I lived in a horrible place but sadly this is so normalized everywhere in China. I hoped that it had gotten better but I wouldn’t be surprised if it hadn’t. I’m sorry you went through something similar too. It’s really hard thinking back on these traumas. We should’ve never gotten treated this way. Kids deserve so much better.
Wow, that's so horrible. Do you have a good or bad relationship with her now? Do you let her see her grandkids? Do you plan to support her in her old age, or send her to a terrible nursing home as punishment?
@@minetrulythat’s a little heavy to ask someone with trauma from a parent, I know you don’t mean harm but coming from someone with c-ptsd who was abused in every way from a parent, there is no trauma like being tortured by the one who brought you in the world and was supposed to love you forever. And being stuck, most the time unable to escape your situation, experiencing more trauma from lack of protection, and just hoping you make it to 18. So whatever they decide is up to them and they have every right, and even if they don’t want children at all or want to consider the idea of that because it’s traumatizing, the fear of hurting them or becoming an abuser is very prevalent among many abuse survivors.
“They were tortured but it was for their own good” I’m sorry WTF. What type of person says that? All schools like this should be banned and closed immediately.
The type of person where one has a hard time to acknowledge that, yes, they are humans. Humans like that exist and there are way to many. I wonder what these parents and torturers went through. Not to excuse their aktions, but to try to understand how they became like that... I bet most of them never got any kindness and torture as well..
This podcast impacted me in such a harsh yet healing way and I just wanted to reach out and say thank you. You've been my favorite podcaster now for a while, but this episode brought me to tears. I was in a place like this when I was 12 years old in salt lake city. They were being sued for various counts of child abuse. We would move the program from Warehouse to Warehouse to hide from police and the media. It was such a horrible place that I still had so much resentment towards my mom that I never really even realized it was there until I heard the part about the son coming out of the boarding school and asking his mom, don't you love me Mom? Why did you leave me here? Thank you for telling the story and helping me process the anger I have towards my parents.
the absolute nerve of the headmaster. i would’ve lost my mind if he had the gall to push his way into MY house and call me a liar just to save his sorry excuse of a school. some of the parents are no good either, absolutely disgusting for them to learn what these children, your own kids, have went thru and still be delusional to support such a thing.
Criminals aren’t even treated this badly and I really don’t believe children can learn anything but anger from this. Their parents failed them, so they then send these children away, to hopefully clean up the mess they did as parents. Knowing children and young people, this will never achieve anything good.
You aren't angry while you're being abused, to survive you get obedient, cheerful, and extremely organized. The falling apart is done after the abuse ends, but what happens if the abuse never fully ends?
There were many suicides and cases of drug addiction among the survivors of these schools. There is a disorder called CPTSD (complex post traumatic stress disorder, sometimes nicknamed childhood PTSD because it almost always stems from childhood events) that is also positively correlated to high risk of drug addiction and suicide. Would not surprise me if all the kids who went through this have PTSD now.
This is illegal right? I can't even comprehend any parent doing this to a child. Were these parents lied to? They should have gone through the program themselves first. This is a hate crime. And terrorism.
Agreed. But it is still legal. It should be a crime that sends both parents and teachers to life in prison. But there are even these kind of torture schools in the US still. Paris Hilton was sent to one in Utah. Parent's should not have legal right to give their kids as slaves to be abused by any person or institution. The fact there are legal loopholes that allow it to persist and for abusers to get almost no punishment for the harm they cause only invites more evil.
@@Allyourbase1990it's literally illegal in china... the organisers were persecuted. the idea of reformation schools are legal, and are even encouraged to an extent, but what they did was absolutely illegal. it's just that the government did jackshit about it, and probably didn't even investigate how this school was going (since there are tons of these types of "education/rehabilitation" centers) until it became a national controversy. also, they clearly did not give a shit about checking any of this before handing out licenses to run a school.
In the US the physical abuse is illegal, but the schools/camps themselves are not. They lie on paperwork, and tell the kids no one will believe them because they're troublemakers. For a long time that was true.
Seriously? Why is it always the most evil and disgusting people that barely get punished like 11months-2years is NOTHING compared to what they did to the kids
aslong as the kids get taken away from those parents' reach and the kids go to amazing homes i would say idgaf abt what the parents get just save the children
The judges probably be: the education of obedience? Oh, I can totally understand the need of that and I resonate deeply with you poor parents. Poor, poor headmaster. He probably went a little bit overboard but his intention is completely reasonable and understandable.
This is truly one of the most vile , sadistic, dis-heartening cases I’ve heard in a while. I wish all of the victims harmed peace and comfort for the rest of their lives💔
Absolutely disgusting. It reminds me of when I was so very desperate because I thought my 16 year old runaway daughter was in so much danger that I was willing to have an "outreach program" abduct her and take her to a wilderness camp. I truly considered it because I was so worried about her. THANK GOD I never followed through, I learned later about the abuses these programs had. Some parents truly think they are helping. But when your child tells you about the abuse and you still think it was for their own good- Hope God forgives you.
im so glad you did your research! a lot of painful, traumatising cases could have been avoided if people didn't rush and did their proper research, it's so frustrating
My mom was on her last hope when something finally reached my sister and helped. If it hadn't, my great-aunt, who is a psychologist, had recommended a therapeutic boarding school a couple hours away. It was something like 20k/year, more expensive than her expenses for all four years of undergrad, since she got a high level scholarship. But my mom was already starting to figure out how to manage to pay for it, maybe refinancing the house. When your kid is struggling so much and beginning to get into dangerous actions, you start to get desperate. Every solution you knew about before this hasn't worked. The solutions you've found during this haven't worked either. It feels like nothing will. It creates a situation where everyone is really easy to prey on. Parents can be sucked in with promises of a magical solution that has worked for kids just like yours. I'm really glad we found a legitimate solution that worked. I feel like we were lucky that this period was only three years or so. I know when it lasts into adulthood and they have full freedom and autonomy that it can be harder and last potentially their whole life, however long it is.
You have a gift Stephanie. You have the ability to tell a story in the most sensitive yet passionate way. You captivate us and make us feel the emotions of the story. I love how you use your platform to bring attention to injustice and tell stories that would otherwise never be told. Thank you for doing what you do. ❤
This is barbaric, horrific and heartbreaking. They should have had the parents go through at least 6 months of the same treatment their poor children received. I want to wrap my arms around these children but I can’t so I’m sending my love, support and good energy to each and every one of them. I pray for their healing and for peace. May God bless them. 😢🙏
You wouldn’t think to do this to babies or toddlers, neither to adults. But somehow it’s ok to do it teens/pre-teens. Why? Cause they’re “rebellious”. Cause sometimes they don’t abide to ‘rules’, ‘laws’. We need more hope, more education and less of these standardizations
@@kacklina that amazing 9 year old warrior girl was there at such young age because of her rebelliousness huh? i bet parents couldnt handle her self-will and just abandoned her.. poor little kid..
This reminds me of the Elan school abuse story in the US which also charged an insane $50k per year tuition. AND some parents already hears the abuses but choose to send their kids anyway!
This is chillingly similar to the TTI (troubled teen industry). There is so many dark things in the tti but it is kept quiet. As someone who unfortunately went through multiple TTI facilities, I would love to see a video on the dark truth about it.
Guys can we make this blow up in tiktok or twitter?? This needs more public attention this is so crazy i can't stop crying hearing how this kids went through. Lets atleast help them and give them hope that their are people that is willing to help them and stand next to them.
There's a lot of accounts on tiktok talking about similar things (it's called the troubled teen industry, wilderness camps, etc.) happening, lots of survivors talk about their stories on tiktok.
I don't understand at all how a parent would allow the boarding school staff to tie their children's hands and feet and put them in the back of a van to take them to school and they didn't think this was weird !!!! Not even a mental patient is transferred to the hospital in this way !!!
i think it's partially ignorance and partially intentional oversight. i dont think the video made this especially clear, but these types of schools are marketed primarily as correctional facilities that will solve all their problems (Internet addiction, drugs, alcohol, heck, even dating or talking back). all the kids who get sent there probably already have a strained relationship with their parent. also, the ones that send their kids to traditional "confucian" schools like this are probably deranged traditionalists anyway bc it's NOT normal. even though most parents (even the more abusive ones) would be despaired to find out their actions led to the horrific abuse of their kid, they would never accept responsibility. they would instead find all sorts of ways to rationalise and justify it to themselves, which may include gaslighting everyone including themselves, or when the evidence is too overwhelming, they start victim blaming. sometimes, they're even the one enacting the abuse, but they still find ways to justify their behavior. it's sick. additionally, i honestly think that some of these parents just wanted to get rid of their kids, but you can't just drop a kid off on the street the way you would with a dog you no longer like bc that's TOO socially and morally unacceptable. not even talking about the legal repercussions, they'd feel guilty because it's too evil to justify. so they found a guilt free way to get rid of the kid, which is to pay money and send them to a "boarding school". it makes me particularly sad because i strongly believe that a good portion of these kids were neurodivergent and evil parents got sick of their "misbehavior"
They were using similar techniques lighther or heavier ones in religious schools/ summer schools all around the world. I can attest that in turkey many religious groups have courses/ summer schools that will psychologically destroy you. They are not the places of God. God would not approve them. They are trying to make you submissive not question the truth and distance you from real/unconditional love of God. I think these scandals are getting exposed in the age of aquarius because we are raising our frequency aligned with the new earth
I'm thinking about my son at his worse - mouthy, opinionated, entitled - but I can't separate that from his best - loving, defending his friends, funny and generous. I think sometimes parents neglect to see their children as whole people, and just focus on the things they want to change -- which hardly ever works. The best you can do is train them to use those powers for good, and pray they listen😅
I’m about to cry…….how could these parents and staff do this to their own kids. They would rather make their own kids tortured, abused, and ruin them to show off to their lame friends than to give their kids a normal, healthy life. This is so inhuman and disgusting.
I feel really bad for all the students after it all happened. They would have major problems trusting people and would probably hate their parents for sending them there. I hope they can recover fully ❤
@soulsearcher7077 I noticed they did that to another comment someone made. They were sharing their personal story of surviving. So really weird for Ville to copy.
This story is just so insane to me. I never in a million years thought it was over video games or being on the internet. These parents basically destroyed their kids lives over this. What I would have loved to hear more about is, what happened to the family dynamics once the kids returned home. There just no way those kids returned home in a healthy state of mind, did any of the old kids move away immediately, did any of them lash out violently once home. There is just no way they went home better with that deprived level of abuse. I can’t believe this happened not that long ago
The cultural undertones of this academy is very similar to those in Africa. West Africa specifically since that’s where I’m from. Children are meant to be seen and not heard and obedience and submission to elders is highly revered there. These academies seemed to understand that a lot of the these parents were invested in adhering to those types of cultural expectations of their children and catered to that. When you look at it from this angle it’s not surprising why parents would pay so much money and even fight to keep these kinds of institutions open. A culture that believes a child should quiet their own voice, free spirit and willpower in favor of blind obedience and submission is a culture that doesn’t see children as human. I wish the parents would’ve taken a step back and appreciated the humanity and individuality of their child. It would’ve spared them a whole world of pain.
Those parents who are against shutting down the academy should go to the academy themselves. They are vile and not worth being parents.
There needs to be some undercover boss kind of thing where people pose as students and get inside to personally witness these abuses to expose the schools directly. Like a secret official inspector to catch creeps in the act.
@@biblesforbreakfasti don't think they'd want to experience the abuse
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They didn’t want their children disciplined they wanted them gone
@@alicianelson1252 If they wanted their kids to spend less time online, they should've stopped them by taking away their phone or actually taking time to spend with them.
Parents are equally as responsible as the academy. The lack of humanity overall is beyond anyone’s understanding
Yes, idc even if they regret( I doubt most of them would)bc they were manipulated , they were simply fking ignorant
these schools and centers are extremelyyyyy manipulative. even in the us, similar facilities are super popular (they still exist cause legal loopholes) because the parents are lied to about what really goes on in them and stuff. its called the troubled teen industry, theres some research papers you can find on google scholar if youre interested. like this kind of thing has been happening for years and years and years and it has roots in cults, if they can break their students minds so much that they accept basically becoming slaves they can definitely brainwash their parents into thinking their childs behavior is perfectly fine and how it should be, or that even the kidnapping thing is the only viable option to transfer them safely into the facility. that being said, parents ABSOLUTELY have the responsibility to research any school/facility they send their children into and to put their childs safety above any sense of glamour or whatever the academy gave to them. its a bit of a tricky situation considering both sides of the issue but i do agree the parents definitely should be punished by law in some way.
also im talking about these kinds of centers in general, not just this specific one cause you would be surprised how many exist and function to this day
Why would one even want to send their kid to a strict school... the kidnapping thing puts me off. It's so stupid to go ahead with it. These parents are criminals equally.
@moawajjuni3 Another youtuber named Azeal did an interview with two kids who went to one of these wilderness centers. You cam find the full interview in the livestreams tab, and a shortened version with the rest of the videos. I personally recommend the full length version. It shows you how bad these places can really be. He also did interviews with a few others in similar places to this in his videos.
“They were tortured for their own good”
If ANYONE says that about a child they shouldn’t be allowed within 5 meters of a kid EVER.
Let alone have kids because they'd be a monster of a "parent"
Who even says that so nonchalantly??
Correction: 5 miles*
@@idigtofurmomcorrection: 50 miles*
Apologies@@-_.RED._-700,
You are indeed correct.
@@-_.RED._-700Correction: on the same planet with a child.
these "rehab schools" exist in many parts of the world, including America. one of the most notable survivors being Paris Hilton, who's been actively trying to shut down the torture facility and save the kids trapped in them
I actually did not know this, but it explains a lot.
Yes i been seen the news about it
What!? Oh man I always thought Paris seemed like a sweet girl and her mom always appears to be a loon! Where can I find the story or interview on UA-cam??
@MultiLisa10 There's a documentary on one of the big streaming services, Netflix maybe? She also has a book detailing her experiences too
@@Radisgrek I watched it here on UA-cam just search for Paris Hilton.
There's a difference between being "obedient" and being tortured into submission. Those parents chose to ignore the blatant red flags. I blame the parents. They decided to have children and then send them to a "school" where they were tortured everyday in the most inhumane ways possible.
Honestly I don't believe the parents when they said they heard faint screams, I believe they heard a full on screams but chose to ignore it when they saw how well behaved all the children are they chose to ignore the red flags and chose to ignore everything wrong with that place.
This really touched me. In the US, there were several ranches that practiced these types of methods. Probably not to this extent. I remember working with a young woman that told me she had gone through a total deprogramming. She says that was the key to her success. Those poor babies. I would be imitating spiderman (on the walls of that school) if I couldn't talk to my children.
Well that's china.... They torture their kids just to show off how "smart", how "successful" how "good kids" they are... It's sad
Young people should never be completely obedient it's like when your kids go silent, something's wrong
I should be terrified😮
I would not want to have anything to do with my parents if I found out they were ok with the academy assaulting me, beating me, starving me and stripping me off any humanity, apparently "for my own good". I cannot imagine trusting my parent after that. These parents who were against shutting the academy down despite knowing all the details are vile.
I've known horrible parents like that and plenty of adults who believe their parents abused them for their own good. It's bizarre.
Those parents should be put through wtf their kids were put thru then let’s see wtf they have to say how evil and fucking stupid must you be to support abuse, torture, starving, etc
It would be fucking disgusting and horrible if it was the parents In there but since it’s happening to their kids it doesn’t matter.? As long as it’s not then in the silent room being tortured they don’t give af that’s fucked up they should have their children taken away asap clearly they aren’t in the right mindset to be easing themselves lead alone their fucking children really pisses me off
I don't, but it wasn't for an academy, it was for their church. Sold over to them, they did satanic crap r wording and killing many others, I was supposed to di. But I ran. The rage I feel for them is indescribable!!
These "tough love" "it'll give 'em character" kind of parent's fail to realize how truly psychotic and narcissistic they actually are.
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK
genuinely from the bottom of my heart I cant fathom hearing that kids were sexually abused, malnourished to the point of mouth ulcers, physically abused, etc - and to think "its for ur own good" I CANNOT imagine this
any parent who condones this should lose custody of their child, any person who condones this should never have a child, holy shit
@@help8745 it makes me feel so sick how these places are deemed normal
i cant even put our any words because of how hurtful he situation is
@@help8745REAL
@@help8745agreed.
See the film 'DROP SQUAD' !!!!!!!!
Nurse here- fun fact, really sad fact, laundry detergent of any kind IS CORROSIVE. Also when we “pump your stomach” we put an NG tube down your nose to your stomach specifically so you DO NOT vomit up corrosive substances and stomach acid. During the pumping process we also have specific agents we use, depending on the agent ingested, to neutralize as much of the material as possible.
So throwing up is the exact OPPOSITE of what you should be doing after ingesting corrosive substances. Eating charcoal does NOT save the situation. Proper emergency medical treatment saves lives.
But you're just medically trained. I don't think you appreciate the skill and training involved in being a fully certified kidnapper. /s
So, what's the best thing to do if you don't have access to medical care?
I mean, throwing up can't be worse than having the toxin go through your digestive system, can it?
@@aon02b When you dial emergency services, they will tell you what to do based on the exact nature of the substance you/others have accidentally consumed.
@@aon02bdepends on what it is
@@aon02b it makes it much worse because the corrosive substances would be traveling back up your esophagus and severely burning everything in the process
You can not tell me her parents completely ignored the fact that their daughter was tied up & dragged out of the house. There’s no way they thought she was being taken to a prestigious school
They absolutely thought that. Did you even listen to the video?? They think doing this kind of harm is good for them.
@@Adelicows In no way am I trying to be mean like you were to me, but do you know what prestigious means? In my comment, I was not talking about the parents that were rallying, I was talking about the ones that were defending their choice to send them to that school & blaming it on being oblivious to what was going on behind closed doors. Of course some of the children of these set of parents could’ve been dropped off, but there’s a chance that some were tied up like the girl in the beginning. What I was trying to say is that if there was a parent that claimed they didn’t know the school was causing their child any harm & wanted it to be shut down, but also turned a blind eye to how they were taken there in the first place…that’s insane
@@Adelicowsgirl you really did not get the point
@@AdelicowsLol, wtf are you talking about? 😂😂😂
Can confirm. I went to a prestigious boarding school. No one dragged me out of my house, my parents just dropped me off and we had a nice orientation
Obviously the staff at this "school" are pure evil, but the parents are also *awful* people. To ignore the state of these children just so your kid can be at this "prestigious" place is morally repugnent.
You can dress the school up for parent day, but you can't hide that the kids were zombies, robots, shells of their former selves. No good parent could ignore how broken these kids became
Exactly!
so many parents will refuse to realize sometimes children have traits they dislike and that doesn't mean a fault in their kid. I've always been opinionated and stubborn. I had it systematically removed from me and it made me feel a shell of myself, but I sure was agreeable. In healing, I'm that way again. sometimes people don't like it, sometimes they do, but my parents HATE it. they saw it as mental illness. as an adult it's simply a trait. as a teenager it was disobedience, something bad to be ripped out.
@@Senjamin I am so sorry you went through that. I think being opinionated and standing your grand makes you strong, I wish I was more like you. I'm glad you're ok now.
@@SenjaminWow parents realy don't like when their kids become their own person do they?
@@NeyamRye No, no they really don't. In my own family I am considered a piece of property not a person (despite being a full adult now) and tragically too many go through the same.
Parents with a god-complex are a terrible reality for too many kids.
Abuse doesnt raise respectful adults, it destroys human beings. There are so many stories in these comments of their own torture school experiences and i am proud of each and every one of you for continuing on and striving for a better tomorrow. Healing is not linear and i know it can feel pointless at times to continue. But you were robbed of happiness and you deserve to take that happiness back. Make your own happiness.
Beautifully said ❤ I hope everyone can find true healing 🙏
theres a saying -
strict parents dont make obedient kids, they make sneaky ones (or something like that)
and this comment embodies that saying very much.
Very true 🫶💯
@@grey.themusiccatMy mother said the same thing about her upbringing, it's why she never laid a hand on me or my sister. We turned out happier for it.
The obsession with Confuscius seems really weird too. They're going against several of the core principals of what he taught, it's like they're picking and choosing only the most authoritarian ideas while ignoring the balance that comes with it.
While he did extol the virtues of obedience in a hierarchical system, he also understood the dangers that came when the wrong person was at the top, generally suggesting that in such a case, it was important for those under them to provide peaceful remonstration. Brutally punishing people into never speaking up even when authority is completely antithetical to those teachings.
If they were really obsessed with him, they should have also read the classics and been aware of Menscius' parable of the Farmer of Song. This wasn't just pulling on the grain, it was straight up uprooting it. That environment outright made it impossible for these children to cultivate their virtues.
the way he said "but no one died, did they" tells you everything
The fact that some parents have the audacity to side with the so called ACADEMY is totally disgusting. Thanks again Stephanie for sharing this horrible ,horrible case of human abuse.
It's meeting the demand. Psychopaths cater to the narcissistic "parents" needs. The police and law should do more .
But money rules...
We have this issue around the world in America its a habitual issue as we are one of only 2 countries who refuse to sign the international rights of the child
Welcome to China
@@Allyourbase1990there are US companies that run similar schools in places like Puerto Rico and the Philippines, far from prying eyes. Usually the death of a child is what draws attention to them.
@@lynnlynn9124oh my god, they do that shit abroad too? Do they ship american children off to those schools or do they "service" the local population?
I had only heard about the ones inside the US, this is shocking
The fact that the serial killers are living in prison which have beds,drinkable water, an actual good amount of food for the whole day,a toilet and have clothes on which means they have a safe atmosphere but those innocent kids who have done nothing are forced to live like this helplessly is just heartbreaking NO KID DESERVES THIS 💔
Prison isn't exactly safe
@@rizkiramadhan9266 it’s better than this
@@CheeseFrLife You overestimate the Chinese prison system
@@rizkiramadhan9266 by that I meant the prisoners are living better than the kids
@@CheeseFrLife yeah, no, that's not always the case
I’m still traumatized at 28 thinking back to 12 years ago when I was in one of these places… secretly calling my mom BEGGING her to help me escape or else I would off myself, and then watching the administrator tell my mom “don’t listen to her she’s just trying to get out to keep up with her same patterns”. Luckily I escaped in the middle of the night… was chased about 2 miles by a tech before they gave up following me… flagged down a police officer and fold him the situation I was in… and he was like “oh yes we know all about that place”… he brought me to a Hampton inn where they let me stay the night for free and I BEGGED my mom to fly me home the next day… Which after the way she saw how I ran off into the street like that.:: she agreed. I’m still traumatized 12 years later
The police know abt that place but still have never shut it down???
I hope u don’t talk to ur mom anymore cuz that’s not parenting.
That's disgusting
Holy shit, good job
😢 does authority do something about it
Somehow my disgust grew even greater when I looked up the case and saw how many articles don’t mention any of the horrors. Just “unlawful detention”.
If my parents ever did this to me i would never speak or see them ever again. I wouldn't even care if they didn't know how bad it was, they would be loosing their child.
Same here
I'd sue them. For real uf they put you there it means they just don't care.
Literally same smfh
💯
In my country, there have recently been some cases of nursing homes with similar conditions, plus forced labor on a farm for about 10-15 hours a day...
I think it would be a good way to show your gratitude for the education provided...
These children felt safe at home, where they felt protected and could let their guards down in a vulnerable state just to be taken in the middle of the night to some academy and be physically and mentally tortured. The sense of betrayal they must have felt !!!!
Two comments. Really?
@@Lucia-2107 what’s the problem
@@dontcallmenabi sorry
@@Lucia-2107What's wrong with that?
Emily Harper Has A Few Really Well Done/Thoroughly Detailed Storytimes About Her Time At The School For Troubled Girls & Their Crvel & Unusual Pvnishments. I Went To Multiple Youth Shelters That Are Considered "Troubled Teen" Facilities & They're Awful.
Nah these parents knew. They may not have known in detail but the f*cking knew. There’s no way you see your daughter getting TIED UP and DRAGGED OUT of your home and think “yeah this is normal” there’s no way you don’t notice the signs. If there’s any love for your kid then you will notice. Every adult involved deserves what they deserve and I will leave it at that. I CANNOT imagine doing that to a child. It’s disgusting.
I would at least be asking a lot more questions if I saw that. Seriously why do you need to hog tie children and drag them to school?
I know right. Like I see people saying "oh they didn't know" okay even if they didn't know all of it, how in the world as an adult with a fully grown brain, can they ever consider the practice of kidnapping their own kids as totally acceptable?? Like cmon lets be real
@hadiyapinky9091 they do it in the states. Look up aspen ranch
@@hadiyapinky9091 Even with the parents "not knowing" regardless, WHY? Just why would you still send them to that place? Even if they didn't know how bad it was going to be, the parents did it for selfish reasons. THEIR reasons. Not for their kids. They wanted their child to be fixed and obedient and now they're traumatized
Depends. I can’t say in China, but in the US there are definitely teens going down a bad path that many parents can’t handle. Not video games or on their phone, which is nothing, but vandalism, petty crimes, car wrecks, theft, drugs, etc. The parents get local counseling…the teen thinks its stupid, often won’t get in the car to go and little changes. The parent can’t really make a screaming violent 17-year-old listen to them, or even stop them from running out of the house at night, or from stealing the car keys after being told no.
Then what? The parents can just let the kid keep raging and saying school is stupid so why go, until jail or worse, or try to reach them for the 256th time of why their life is off track which never works, or turn to one of the “troubled teen” industry, that often dresses itself up as psychiatric care and counseling.
Some parents turn to the troubled teen camps, and no surprise that 99% of the 16-17 year olds say “nope, not going, when told they are enrolled in a troubled teen program. They can say “well…guess that’s it” or they can force the teen to go using parental authority. There should never be beatings or abuse like this, but parents can be between a rock and a hard place…,they are blamed for the teen going bad, and they are blamed for trying to turn teens around before their first jail sentence.
The fact that parents could be far away from their children for years, drop them off and not even look back, have no issue when they’re seeing 4 huge men tying and carrying their child. Absolutely horrendous.
Every Child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child. I can’t believe some of parents even spoke in favour of the “Academy”. It’s appalling. What kind of deranged and sick parents will still stand by the “teachers” side after finding out how these children were
stripped off, abused and exposed to these horrible conditions.
This is so unforgivable. The psychological trauma & physical abuse that these young people are going to live with for the rest of their lives.
Why is there always someone who writes this very well known saying? Try being original.
@@TJ-bn2cn why is there always a sensitive loser like you in the comments complaining? try inviting some joy into your life.
@@TJ-bn2cnWhat an odd thing thing to criticize. Who cares if the phrase is used a lot, it’s still relevant to this video. Idk why you have such high expectations for a random commenter on the internet to say something completely original and never heard before? She doesn’t owe you anything.
@@TJ-bn2cnmaybe because it's a very well known saying, isn't that what sayings are for TO BE SAID?!?!
Chinese parents. They encourage people to beat their chikd up to discipline thwm
Horrific case of parents not treating their children like humans, you would never do this to an adult so why do you feel comfortable doing it to your child
Truthfully they probably would do this to an adult. They must be monsters that just have no care or empathy for other humans.
Well, this isn't their CHILD they would do that to...this would be their 'proof that I am a perfect mother', or "proof that my husband's seed is virile and amazing and superior to everyone else's". These are 'parent-replacements', not children who have their own likes and wishes and hopes and dreams; they are Mommy's Little Angel or Daddy's Perfect Business Partner! And if they're NOT that, then they need to BECOME perfect, like their parents are! A little 'sternness' is necessary sometimes...
@@EShirakoI get you comment but that’s not stermness that’s just pure evil
@@EShirakosterness? More lime abuse
You won’t understand. The value of human life and human dignity is irrelevant in most Asian cultures. It’s not just China. Even in South Korea the hierarchy and respect for the authority are above a child’s or an adult’s rights and freedoms. And it’s absolutely normal.
Parents need to realise that there are SICK adults out there who will absolutely enjoy harming their child. Parents who are so blindly trusting of these "professionals" (who are never qualified) need to be arrested for neglect.
The parents are sick first. They are the sick ones who will not raise their children by realistic standards. They know what shit their kids go through.
@@onaclover-coveredhill9618theres actually a ex spy who would argue that a certain amount of trauma could help the child grow. So I don't really blame them since other people do stuff like kicking 18 year olds out as soon as they're able because they did their job yknow.. but karma is sweet because when they're old I won't bat an eyelash when they send them to a home or just break contact altogether. If your relationship with your child is just raising them cool. But don't expect that person you only raised conditionally to be there when you need it 😊
I mean, there are idiots who thinks their child can change their sex. Are we really surprised?
@onaclover only if they truly know what the kids are going through
I believe some of these parents are just as sadistic as this "school staff". My grandpa used to spank my mom and her siblings for trivialities, in one instance, he hit my mom with a wooden spoon til the point of her almost losing consciousness. He was one of those parents, for sure.
The saddest thing for me is the kids who were tricked into going there by the parents, pretending they were going on a road trip. Like maybe if you went on trips and engaged with your kids more often, they wouldn't be looking for the engagement on their phones.
Yeah like.... just play with your kids. Do board game nights, watch TV together, get into games with them, have them help you with cooking and teach them basic skills in the process... It's not that hard to get kids off their phones.
Bingo.
But what kind of an assh0le parent thinks that being on the phone deserves abuse? I wish such "parents" never gave birth in the first place
By the sounds of it, the kids were probably also pretty excited too- even if they didn’t show it at first. These kids got to spend time with their parents on a fun road-trip, stress-free. I could never imagine being betrayed in such a horrendous way :(
Something that really sucks is many kids stay inside and play videogames because we learned from our parents that Outside is dangerous. But playing indoors makes parents freak out too and criticize our activities. Imagine being conditioned to stay inside your Safe Home and then your own parents arrange a kidnapping.
Besides, wouldn't they be the ones buying the gaming stuff anyway?
its so terrible, it would make a kid scared everywhere they went and just always be on edge
More kids r dying from bullets than anything else in USA. 😢
You do it cause you think outside is dangerous? Or because playing is addicting and fun and the opportunities for social interaction offline have decreased
@@LorettaBangBangoh really?lets talk about your alcohol and gambling addiction
Any parent who even just signs consent for their kids to go through a fake kidnapping even without going to a camp deserves life in prison
Agreed. It's not even fake kidnapping at that point, it's all paid for and planned, it's terrifying.
YES! ABSOLUTELY!
Just imagine being the 9 year old girl (who presented rebellion) being thrown into silent room naked ,getting out and presenting rebellion but getting in there again to break her completely. Just a little 9 year old ,like are you for real? ALL THE YOUNG 9-10 YEAR OLDS AREN'T EVEN TEENAGERS. Feeling absolutely terrible just imaging about her condition then and the trauma after getting out of there. Shame on her parents.
I don’t blame any of the other kids for not standing up but this little girl was a hero. She kept courage for so long, imagine who she would have grown into if she hadn’t been abused.
@@tatimarie8277FR
@@tatimarie8277 Zhong You/Zilu
@@tatimarie8277 in a way i think that just pushed her to be tough like switched smth in her head
People usually do that with mental problems teenagers,they called the mental doctor and take them away in their sleep ,not children that is just wrong the child will grow up even more reckless and don’t want to listen to both,parents and do drug or kill a person’s to go to jail and run way from home at an early age.
I am shook. That is absolutely horrific. The fact that some parents stood with the academy is just sick. Absolutely sick.
I'm not a mother, but a daughter and i'm fighting my tears, imagining, what these poor students had to went through. These "parents" that don't believe their children are disgusting excuses of human beings. They don't deserve to be parents.
Exactly! Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child
@@kdcwilliams1839 ..??? so u think child abuse should be illegal.
@@locamiGIwtf are u talking about
@@tomshroom this was 2 months ago.. ur late.. very late.
Don't fight your tears. give yourself the space and acceptance of your feelings. let it out.
"If I'm genuinely having a good time with my parents I'm not going to be on my phone." As a mother of two preteens, this is the best form of feedback every parent needs to hear! Well put!
As a preteen that stays on the phone or outside biking most of the day because I don't want to talk with my parents, I ended up crying when she said that sentence :(
It's funny sometimes simple suggestions are the ones we need to hear.
Fr if parents spend time with they’re kids/teens than the kids/teens wouldn’t be always on they’re phones and also if kids are looking at a device it doesn’t mean that they’re addicted to it 😕
I can’t believe these “parents” paid for their children to be harassed, tortured and assaulted.
Poor innocent children.
It breaks my heart to know that the people who ruined 1,00 of kids life’s are walking around
They get to live after what they’ve done
@@kwie_grildw those things will get their karmas in h$ll
I agree, ma'am but here's the Truth: this happens to the people who don't pray to God. Believe it or not, it's the truth.
@@stefigachadimova7479 I can’t believe you decided to write this under this video.
my horse was hog tied by her past owners whenever she got her hooves trimmed, she has a shit ton of trauma from it and its taken years to teach her that getting her hooves being trimmed and even touched doesn't mean shes going to be hurt and that what she experienced wasnt normal in the slightest
Is the horse okay now?
@wedgar629 yes, she recently had a farrier appointment and behaved the best out of all the horses
Okay hog tying a horse is just actually insane,
like,
that doesn’t sound safe for anyone involved what in the hell kind of decision making… your poor horse! :((
holy shit 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Old comment, but that horse is lucky to have you instead of the previous owners. I hope you have many long years together!
The pure panic in the mans voice when the headmaster came to visit, it broke my heart. You could just hear how he was instantly taken back to the abuse, he sounded like scared kid and all I wanted was to rush through my PC and hug him.
and the fact that hes living with his uncle and not his parents.
How could you see this as "zen" when they tied your kids up and kidknapped them? That is not normal. These parents are not normal. This is actual insanity. They should be the ones locked up.
Well said and totally agree!!
It's zen because they don't have to deal with the children anymore.
Exactly? How could they even view it as a positive thing watching them do that
@@isaacgame7304exactly what I think. Those parents just wanted somebody to take their children away.
These parents and the adult torturers need to be treated the same way they treated those kids. This injustice is so ridiculous
Edit: ok I can’t believe this. I was so frustrated I look more into this and I found an article on Chinadaily, keep in mind I don’t know if this is true or not but apparently some of the teachers who were in prison can get their teaching license back in 5 years or less. You can hear the pockets on the judges getting heavier🤦♀️
“According to the judgement of the court, Wu was sentenced to two years and 10 months in prison and barred from working in the education sector for five years.
Ren was sentenced to two years and seven months in prison, and obtained a ban of the same duration.
In addition, Zhang Shun and Qu Wenkuan, two other defendants, were given sentences of 22 months and 11 months in prison respectively, and both were prohibited from working in the education system for three years.”
I was going to say the same, they should force the parents and teachers to go through the exact same thing!!!
@@KaileyB616i got it wrong i guess!!
@@ch3rrybl0ss0m3evwhat I don’t understand is how parents could not have know if their child was literally abducted to go there. I’ve seen this in the US too when a kid is sent to one of those “wilderness learning” schools for behavioral problems or like conversion therapy places but is not a huge red flag that a school is willing to offer abduction as a way of sending the kid to school??? I guess I can sort of see the parents who dropped off and ran as being more easily fooled but it’s still such a red flag I just don’t understand
@@KaileyB616💯💯💯🎯 Agree.
@@ch3rrybl0ss0m3ev The plain existence of such a facility is illegal in my country. And kidnapping a person, even if it's with the consent of their parents, if they're minors, even if they don't tie and torture them, is illegal.
It doesn't matter if parents knew HOW bad it was going to be, or not, every single thing about this is illegal and for a very good reason.
Imagining saying "I just wanted my child to get a little bit of PTSD, not to be tortured and striped of their human everything" and thinking it's less bad that way.
Not to mention that this still also means that they gave their kid to strangers, without knowing what those will do to them.
This podcast made me cry. How could “parents” be this cruel to their own children? My heart is breaking for these children…
This is why I hate “traditional” asian parent’s expectations of blind obedience and filial piety. And it’s so much worse if you’re a daughter because of all the feminine virtues and obedience bs that they force on you from birth. It’s so hard for us to deal with intergenerational trauma when it is so deeply woven into Asian cultures
See 53:42-55:34. It enrages me
Civilization isn't bs. This torture isn't civilization.
@@rizkiramadhan9266where did they say it was?
@@letsgoalready5515 "all the feminine virtues and obedience bs that they force on you from birth"
@@rizkiramadhan9266I would like to say, if your experiencing trauma or anything that came from your own despicable parents, there's NOT A SINGLE REASON to NOT seek help. AND TBH, health matter more than family because you matter more than anything else. Of course, God comes first always, but then 2nd place comes YOU. Pray to God, if you need help. This is what happens when you don't pray to God.
Parents also sent their children to Yuzhang Academy to "cure" their homosexuality. It wasn't just "internet addiction" the school pretended to treat while torturing children. Around 20 students also claimed to have been sexually assaulted by the founder, Wu Junbao. The speculated victims are as young as 12 years old, both female and male. Sexual harassment is already hard to trace in terms of evidence, and in this case it was almost impossible given the long time span between the harassment event and investigation.
It scares me a bit that when you just google "Wu Junbao" you find very little other than a forbes article about him being "the largest individual shareholder in China East Education, one of the largest providers of vocational training in China."
No top links about Yuzhang at all when just googling his name and nothing else
That breaks my heart. They were just kids. What a horrible monster. I hope he finds himself in a fate worse than hell. Might be harsh, but that is what he did to hundreds of kids. I hope the kids find healing
So you try and “cure” homosexuality by raping someone of the same gender? These people not only had no hearts, but no brains
Not surprised he did that after everything else he did and what they all did to the 20 Yr old. Fucking sick. I suspect Yung prob had worse than he said too, but was prob too ashamed to say it.
That 9 year old girl is so admirable tho. I wonder what happened to her. I hope she's doing okay and she's still got that passion
...
I wonder if she is alive or can walk 🫠
It’s insane how anyone can logically think “oh they’ve completely submitted and are ‘obedient’ 10 days after we sent them here! They’re a completely different person!” AND NOT THINK THAT IS A HUGE RED FLAG???
With the bit about involuntary commitment: I saw it happen firsthand. A woman was brought into the mental hospital I was staying at, spitting and screaming, because she was SA'd, and for the THIRD TIME, the police did nothing. She had been assaulted twice before then. Out of frustration she muttered- not yelled, or even said at a normal volume, but MUTTERED- "I'm so done with this sh!t," and that's all they needed to lock her up in the hospital under the pretense that it was indicative that she was going to try and attempt on her life. The hospital was atrocious and involuntarily committed anyone who tried to sign themselves out early, but that instance was the worst, and that's just what I saw in the two weeks it took me to get out.
The law is constantly used to abuse and exploit the vulnerable, and it's misery.
This!!!! People could see what a nut my mother is but still didn’t help. She would stress me out so bad I felt constantly insecure and unsure of myself, had chronic migraines, and learning problems. I also liked other kids but could not socialize normally. Now looking back I realize I wasn’t delusional and I even had a behavioral therapist tell me I should respect my mothers crazy choices even though it affected me because “she’s the mother, not you”and you “can’t control other’s action” as if that was an appropriate time to apply that. I do have some incurable problems like hypothyroidism but I believe she intentionally made me feel like I would never be capable of losing weight, getting a proper education, having friends that truly cared, feel beautiful again, etc. I would have an outburst every now and again because of the abuse and she tried to gaslight me into thinking I was the one with problems. I genuinely believe she was trying to make me useless to anyone but her self. Looking back it’s clear as day. She was jealous any time I got attention from the opposite sex. The moment I had a bf I was a whore. She only wanted me to have a job when she could have the money. She wanted me to get SSI for my migraines but only so I could give it to her. I still put up with her to this day and I don’t know why I can’t just stop caring about people. Now I have a kid but I moved back in because she had so much backrent and was going to be evicted. She’s old now and still acts bat shite insane. I ended up being in debt to save her ass and people don’t understand it’s not just something that’s easy to walk away from. It’s the brainwashing and feeling obligated, the rumors, etc.
All the kids In the facilities I went were involuntary, the worst part is most the time they’ve just runaway from the abuse and got sent to a psychiatric facility which exposed them to that abusive environment (my facilities, around 10 times including residentials abused the kids). The completely normal kids there however later developed problems they weren’t exposed to until then, especially eating disorders and addiction problems. Eating disorders are for the hospital, not grouping a bunch of anorexics and bulimics to compete with eachother, I would know, they all made me and I made them want to starve even more, by being enabling even if it’s not intentional. This does not scratch the surface, I was at 15 about to become a 16 year old heroin addict, I desperately needed a detox or rehab but they couldn’t find the effort to look for one that accepts minors, they enabled all mental illnesses and behaviors, and there wasn’t even treatment, health consequences as well. After I got kicked out the second time I did every drug by time I was 16. I’m clean now, and I hope the friends I made in there will make it too.
@@letsgoalready5515I’m so sorry about your experiences. You deserve so much more, I’m glad you got to see at least some of the truth of what happened to you, unfortunately a lot of professionals in the mental health industry are incompetent, and health industry. Take it from a future doctor who’s lived in hospitals all their life. Cutting an abusive parent out is an incredibly difficult choice, I hope one day you don’t have to deal with her, she is not your obligation, you are beautiful and seen by others who’ve felt the same.
@@Flutterhigh444hospitals meant to help the hurt but instead they make the wound bigger or make a wound when there wasn’t one from the beginning. Heartbreaking to hear, my worst fear is not to be believed and forced into a mental hospital and lose all my own freedom of choice. Its sick how they ignore those who need the help but won’t leave those who are okay alone. Gaslighting as a big system or operation hidden. We gotta make mental health care mich more better and HUMANE, empathy and actual caring. Just cuz its a mental problem does not mean people should not have the right to their own autounamy!
@@letsgoalready5515 i'm so sorry you had to go through that, i do hope you seek therapy anyway you can if not for you then for your child so you can be rid of your mother and start healing so the trauma you experienced doesn't effect your child to the same degree (because you live with ur mother not suggesting u are abusive)
I can’t believe her “parents” paid for her to be kidnapped and taken to a torture academy.
So disgusting…
Her “parents” don’t deserve to be parents at all
Like everyone is probably saying:
All kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids.
Well…the parents didn’t know that how they got treated like that. Btw, Paris Hilton got tortured in same type school in USA and her parents got her kidnap while she’s sleeping in her own bedroom.
@@happymunchkin2812they didn’t decide to investigate the place/do their research before sending their kids there. They didn’t even try to notice any red flags when they got shown a “tour”. If your kids don’t even glance at you and they all look miserable, you’d think that this place is dangerous. Don’t even get me started on the kidnapping aspect. ..
@@BaldCoryxKenshinfanI agree with you
@@BaldCoryxKenshinfanVery well said. I agree.
Paris Hilton is a bigger person than I am , I would have never looked back at my parents ever again in life and start making life,without them knowing not even what state I'm in
I'm a WWASP survivor (SCL) and a lot of the other kids I was in the program with were kidnapped. That shit is beyond traumatizing, just as the programs are and were. Most of us have diagnosed PTSD from it all. I still have nightmares and anxiety issues (including PTSD) despite being 15 when I was put into SCL and being 40 now. Also 10k/semester is cheap. My family paid $80k/year for SCL to torture me and that was back in 1999 & 2000.
im so sorry you had to go through this. if you don't mind me asking, did your parents know?
My heart goes out to you, I hope you find peace and feel safe one day.
How can parents do something like that. Crazy
This is the most heartbreaking thing i ever heard about i am truly so sorry about what happened to you
I wish I could give you a hug because I could never imagine experiencing that. I would never talk to my parents ago but also I hope that you were able to recover even a little bit
for those parents who were protesting, just register yourself to the academy and see how it goes 😤😠
For real they need to get disciplined for throwing their kids like that oh my god my blood is boiling right now
What I find crazy is that some people want kids but what they actually want is a cute baby, not a growing human. Then they send away their teens to these camps because they can’t handle having a teenage. These people don’t deserve to be parents it’s disgusting
THIS. it's so irresponsible and it's why i absolutely despise those baby crazy parents. they want a romanticised idea of a child and not the lifelong responsibility of raising one. it's selfish. people do the same with pets too. they treat pets and children like fucking commodities, like a birthday gift or a reward or a thing to flaunt on social media. the only thing that's stopping them from leaving kids on the streets the way they leave pets is the sense of guilt which society has (FORTUNATELY) managed to instill into the brains of these sickos
so reall, i encountered a middle aged woman who doesn't like their kids anymore because they grown into a person with dignity and opinion, like cant parents understand that their children do need to grow up and make decisions too and be a parent too...
@@april.4045same.For summer I worked with an neglectful mother who blamed her older son for having issues and blaming him saying he faked it.She obv picked her younger son over the older one and she is suprised that her husband wants to divorce her for the sake of their children becuz she ruined the family mentally
Fr get a doll
Prisoners that commit actual crimes , even petophiles are treated better in prison than these innocent children, just disgusting .
There is a similar case I believe in USA as well , but this seemed worse in its own way.
These camps exist in the US. The same kind of torture, too
I've heard of these schools here in the US. And it's literally the same type of abuse and torture. They just try to minimize the facts so that it seems it was less serious than it was.
Boot camp is heaven compare to this. Worse is you are getting yell at.
@@andromedamessier3176 I don't know much about boot camp but can I safely assume that the participants get to have clothes and regular food? Even toilet facilities? I imagine there's some intense training where there's temporary restrictions on things like food, toilet and sleep but not for ages, yeah?
@@kentario1610 it basically a military camp for bad kids that do drug and crimes etc. Yeah! You get foods, clothes, and housing. You won’t get beaten nowadays last I heard. They are just extremely strict.
I dont care if people think I am a psycho, if this happened to me I would have paid a group of people to do the same thing to my parents, period. Sometimes it is better to let people test their own medicine. Poor kids they lost all trust in people. The first trust and love you will learn from is your parents.
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You know the first thing I thought about was how I would just gouge out the eyes of the teachers , with a pencil,while they were sleeping. One at the time.
And when she was describing girls uncloging the toilet with bare hands, I thought ,how I would just scoop the poop and showe it directly in the mouth of the teacher.
Im definitely a little off.
@@cica9272 🤣🤣🤣 same here!
And when they’re old 😂
@@cica9272 Oh God we are all psycho 😂. But yeah, it is hard to understand how they came up with this kind of torture, it is so evil. I still can't stop thinking about this case.
I live in Utah, and these "rehabilitation facilities" are very common here. Paris Hilton had a similar experience at Provo Canyon School and has been fighting to shut them down ever since. Parents will send their kids from out of state and out of the country. There's a massive rap sheet of injuries, trauma, and even death that comes out of these places. Kids have died from suicide, escape attempts, and "restraints" from Staff members. I have a friend who was sent to a wilderness therapy camp in high school, and she came back sickly, depressed, and weighing 15 lbs lighter after only 6 months. She opened up about being beaten, starved, refused showers for weeks, sexually harassed, bullied by staff, and just horrifically mistreated all around. She was 16. These places are literal torture, and they're still legal and very, very common.
The parents that wanted the school to stay open, should be charged as accomplices. This is sick.
parents who send teens away to ANY sort of 'camp' are so wrong. They do it because they can't handle the growth a teen needs to learn on their own. They don't like how their child is trying to gain independence and become an individual. These parents are obviously narcissists that can't deal with raising a teen, they want their teen to obey them.
I don't think that's a totally fair assessment. Some people have teenagers with legitimate behavioral issues and want to help their kids but don't know how. From what I've heard, these camps are universally horrible, but not everybody knows that. You can argue that parents should do their research, and you would be right. But if no one has spoken out against a particular camp, can you blame them for not knowing?
Edit: I assume you're talking about the mental health camps that are advertised as a sort of retreat but seem to always turn out to be horribly abusive.
@@meaniezucchini5216 Any 'camp' that promises parents their teen will 'behave' after. It inherently attracts narcissistic parents. Teens who have legitimate behavior problems need psychiatric help. NOT some 'boot camp' for teens.
Actually, I think it's mostly bad parenting. Thry were incapable of educating and disciplining their children, and they preferred letting someone else deal with their own failure. I worked as a nanny for 15 years, I had employers that taught their kids about boundaries, and other parents that let their children treat everyone like scum without any consequences, and even make excuses for their horrid behaviour. Once they can't handle the child's behaviour, they blame it on the child rather than look at themselves. In my previous job, I took away treats for bad behaviour, only for the parents to throw even nicer ones at the misbehaving child as a consequence of screaming, crying and throwing tantrums. Children easily copy negative behaviour, if they think they get away with it, and get even better treats for misbehaving.
@meaniezucchini5216 most parents that can't control their teenagers are the ones that never taught discipline, respect and boundaries. If you're too lazy to tach your child about kindness, respect, consequences to bad behaviour, you'll have an even worse teenager on your hands. And once these children become adults...that's scary!
@@caitlinhammons2437 Most of the camps I've seen have advertised themselves as mental health retreats, not boot camps. It may be the case that they attract narcissistic parents, but I don't think it's fair to assume every parent who sends their kid to one is a narcissist.
Hasn't Paris Hilton been through that too? I really believe parents who do this to their children and allow all this traumitizing things to happen are either mentally challenged or really evil and sadistic... Even listening to their stories is soul crushing.
Yes, this happened to Paris Hilton. The Troubled Teen Industry in the United States uses the same tactics, and it’s apparently 100% legal over there. Children have no rights in the so called LaNd oF tHe FrEe.
Dude, I literally commented the same thing lol
Yeah, afaik she campaigned to get those camps shut down. But there are still a lot.
Yup, this is just like Provo
Yes! I remember this in her documentary
The fact that these parents came to visit and not see how malnourished and dull their children are........ How..... ????? I
They know they don't care
They do know and they think it's perfectly fine
My ex went through this and worst here in America. They were literally thrown into the forest naked for weeks by themselves without food, water or shelter. The stories this guy told me tore my heart to pieces. I understood his demons… how can someone function normally in society after the abuse they endured for years. I pray for clarity so these parents don’t look past the red flags and give their children unnecessary scars.
What was this called? I am going through something similar after my family was looked into by WAYNE BLACK AND ASSOCIATES. They virtually mentally torture me and hundreds if not thousands.
@@Princessinprayer I’m really sorry to hear that. I never got the name of the program but this was around 15 years ago. From what he told me this program picked them up in the middle of the night and drove them on a van and drive somewhere for over 18 hrs. Eventually they reached the woods (can’t remember which state but I think North Carolina or a southern state) and they were stripped naked and then taken to the woods where they would have to survive with nothing … they would get checked on after a week or two to make sure they were alive. I think this went on for 6 weeks but also he told me he had no exact idea of the time he spend there. Eventually he was taken to a boarding school but still ran by the same people I think. I’m pretty sure the school was in New York and it was filled with nothing but rich RICH kids. I don’t know if this is still around since it was many years ago but basically this is all the info I remember.
@@Princessinprayerim so sorry.. i searched that on google and rarely got much to know but if they are doing that to you.. ask for help maybe from police or someone or assemble the people together who are going through same... i hope it gets better... this is so sad
What do these parents even tell themselves to justify this?
Do they honestly expect their kids to come home loving them?
Many things but one was given in the video:"I/We didn't know." with the implication that they wouldn't have done it if they knew(and because in that ignoring it in part that they did do it).
Right 💯
@@alexandrub8786 I don't believe them, paying for ur kid to be kidnapped is bad enough.
They don't care what the child thinks, or anyone else. It's like they somehow just feel justified. My "parents" did this for their church to me. They have no guilt in them at all. None
My grandma always says things like "You don't understand as a kid but someday you'll thank me for making you into a good person. Then you'll be sorry I'm gone and cry."
No, I don't actually. PTSD is debilitating AF.
That idiom "Every child deserves a parent but not every parent should have a child" is brought to life by the so-called parents in this case. How could parents let their kids get kidnapped and not know something is incredibly wrong? Great job, as usual, Steph.
"All kids deserve parents but not all parents deserve kids" this quote proved true in this video....
Your future hubby said it right : it all stems from parenting and it’s EVERYWHERE! I feel horrible for how they were treated NO ONE deserves that. The punishment of the head master is a disgrace! Thank you for all your hard work with these videos I look forward to them ❤
Just wanted to update you, they already married not too long ago :)
I went to a place very similar to that academy 35 years ago, in the US. I've never recovered. I'm still 11 years old in a lot of ways; in others, I'm 90. What I went through tainted everything I've done since, and I can't live a normal life. That's what these kids have to look forward to. I only hope they can get help.
The pain never goes away, but I hope you've found peace ❤️
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Reminds me of Paris Hilton's documentary; her parents had her sent to Provo (a reform school) in simliar abduction-style from bed, putting her through physical, mental, and sexual abuse for almost a year. Crazy how this is happening in the US too
I was bawling my eyes out just by listening to this horrific thing. The trauma the students have is unimaginable. 1:07:38 You can feel that girl's pain just by listening to her speak.
They have a similar thing in America. The wilderness academy retreats. Usually they’re religious based and it’s a lot of psychological and physical abuse that parents pay for their “wayward” teens to go. It’s horrifying that anyone could do this to their child.
Lmao the wilderness retreats are NOTHING like this. They don't lock you in a small room with feces smeared everywhere. They don't make you unclog toilets with your bare hands. They don't beat you. The schools for Native Americans like 100+ years ago, and Élan and Dozier School which both closed in 2011 are the exceptions, not the norm. Not even military schools for "troubled teens" are this bad.
one of the 8passangers kids got sent to one iirc
It's human rights violation and a crime
I went to one when I was 14. You have no idea what happens their. I still have nightmares about that shit. We hiked part of the Appalachia trail. It turned into something like lord of the flies.
I was going to say, I would love if Stephanie covered some of the TTI cases in the U.S. So many of these kids are still fighting for justice and there's still people being sent to these institutions. I just read about a 17 year old girl (Taylor Goodridge) that passed away from a treatable case of sepsis because the people at Diamond Ranch Academy refused to seek medical treatment for her. That poor girl.
These parents need to be JAILED!!! I would have disowned my parents after this whether they knew about the academy or not. I don't know how someone could ever trust their parents again. Nah It's over between us. Their getting shipped off to a nursing home to die alone when I'm grown🤷♀️
Idk if this is true but I heard you can’t do that in China. Parents can sue their children if they didn’t care for them in their old age. 😢
Ikr the kida shouldve filed charges against their parents. In a sense its child abuse and domestic violence because they are consenting to this.
Factssss. And id be unalive or in jail for being the ring leader of a child lead premeditated mass unaliving of employees.
This is horrible. Parents rather pay someone else to “parent” their child. Shamefully shameless.
Well said.
As a teenage girl, this now scares me, thinking that my mom and dad might do this to me. I would probably be so scared, and have so many bad thoughts, I feel really bad for all the kids and teenagers that had to go through this and think that! I'm gonna hope that things get better for them, so they can at least live a normal life without thinking back to those bad memories! ♡
If anyone here is from the United States and is unaware, this is not an isolated incident. This is not just something that happens in China or even Asia in general. There are so many programs like this out there and they still continue to thrive. They love marketing these places as wilderness programs or therapeutic boarding schools when, in actuality, they just force kids to obey. Please look into the troubled teen industry if you are seeing this. It is absolutely heinous how they are still operating. I really hope to live to see the day that they are all shut down and owners jailed.
Didn't those parents from that 8 Passengers channel, put one of their kids in a similar program?
@@terribleeditor4556yeah they put their son thru that, crazy
@@karinam.183 I remembered hearing about it because they described him as having "behavioral issues" and that the camp was in the desert and that it had behavior correcting activities for him, but that camp is notrious for not being safe for children sent there. I think they reason they even sent him there was because they also thought he was spending too much time on his phone.
I remember hearing about the Elan school when I first learned about these “rehabilitation” programs which are literal torture and should have long since been banned
Do you feel like the family’s trust was deceived by the academy’s? I also could see how society’s pressures or standard to have discipline had created a safety net around these institutions and the schools practices weren’t checked bc of the “effective” results produced. I wonder what other modern examples there are of this???
The fact that some parents knew that they were getting tortured is so sickening. If you really “loved” ur child and “just wanted the best for them” wouldn’t you want to be there for them? Wouldn’t you want to make memories WITH them. Wouldn’t you want to Love them everyday and not send them to a sickening torturing “school”. These parents couldn’t survive a DAY in this school. All these parents are disgusting and just unbelievable. And I haven’t even STARTED about these teachers. Imagine you have to take a deep breath and then you get called up to the front of the classroom and get hit with a metal ruler. Imagine doing your work but misspelling 1 word and getting hit with that. And the fact that the head master came to Leo’s house and just LAUGHED about what he did and what TRAUMA he gave the kids is so sickening. AND the fact that they only got 2 YEARS in prison in just wrong. Imagine spending your whole life in basically hell and then the evil devils who ruined your life only got punished for 2 years. I am disgusted by the teachers,the PARENTS,the COPS?! this is just utterly ridiculous and disgusting
This is basically the troubled teen industry!! It’s awful how much of a global problem this is. My heart goes out to the survivors and those who have died in these horrible systems.
1:05:20 “If you close the academy. Who will parent my child?!?” -parents
I hope all these parents also get prison time!
You are clearly mentally unwell if you think after 10 days your kid can completely change.
Absolutely disgusting 🤮.
i went to a similar academy in china, obviously it didnt have the stripe u from ur sanity part, with the rooms, and poop. but it did have the beatings, the confucius statue, the memorizations. when i was listening to this episode it gave me so much flash back to when i was at that school. i accused my mother even now for sending me to that school, i would even ask her why she did it, and she would always reply with, disciplining my children, she never considered the abuse factor of it.
the school was bulldozed later on bc it was an illegally built building, not bc of the beatings but bc it was too close to the yellow river.
edit: who is confucious? he is a philosopher from way back in chinas history, they wrote books about proper discpline and "way of life" ig, he also had disciples whom are also included in the books. there are also other philosophers talking about different studies and such. whats really bad is the fact that "confucionism" is widely spreading in china and is becoming apart of regular chinese education now, without the beatings ofcourse. but the books they wrote are from thousands of years ago, just by reading them a child cannot understand what they are saying at all.
im so sorry for the torture you experienced. please get away from your mother ASAP.
hey I lived in China as a little kid and went to school there too. It was kindergarten when I experienced the abuse too but unfortunately my brothers had it worse. The rulers were used and humiliation. I didn’t experience that but the teachers yelling at me and the students and how we had to be “disciplined” was basically an abuse of power. I thought maybe it was just an incident where I lived in a horrible place but sadly this is so normalized everywhere in China. I hoped that it had gotten better but I wouldn’t be surprised if it hadn’t. I’m sorry you went through something similar too. It’s really hard thinking back on these traumas. We should’ve never gotten treated this way. Kids deserve so much better.
Wow, that's so horrible. Do you have a good or bad relationship with her now? Do you let her see her grandkids? Do you plan to support her in her old age, or send her to a terrible nursing home as punishment?
@@minetrulythat’s a little heavy to ask someone with trauma from a parent, I know you don’t mean harm but coming from someone with c-ptsd who was abused in every way from a parent, there is no trauma like being tortured by the one who brought you in the world and was supposed to love you forever. And being stuck, most the time unable to escape your situation, experiencing more trauma from lack of protection, and just hoping you make it to 18. So whatever they decide is up to them and they have every right, and even if they don’t want children at all or want to consider the idea of that because it’s traumatizing, the fear of hurting them or becoming an abuser is very prevalent among many abuse survivors.
I am so sorry❤️
“They were tortured but it was for their own good”
I’m sorry WTF. What type of person says that? All schools like this should be banned and closed immediately.
The type of person where one has a hard time to acknowledge that, yes, they are humans. Humans like that exist and there are way to many. I wonder what these parents and torturers went through. Not to excuse their aktions, but to try to understand how they became like that...
I bet most of them never got any kindness and torture as well..
This podcast impacted me in such a harsh yet healing way and I just wanted to reach out and say thank you.
You've been my favorite podcaster now for a while, but this episode brought me to tears. I was in a place like this when I was 12 years old in salt lake city. They were being sued for various counts of child abuse. We would move the program from Warehouse to Warehouse to hide from police and the media.
It was such a horrible place that I still had so much resentment towards my mom that I never really even realized it was there until I heard the part about the son coming out of the boarding school and asking his mom, don't you love me Mom? Why did you leave me here?
Thank you for telling the story and helping me process the anger I have towards my parents.
the absolute nerve of the headmaster. i would’ve lost my mind if he had the gall to push his way into MY house and call me a liar just to save his sorry excuse of a school.
some of the parents are no good either, absolutely disgusting for them to learn what these children, your own kids, have went thru and still be delusional to support such a thing.
I don't think I'd ever forgive my parents. Like I can't imagine a greater betrayal.
Criminals aren’t even treated this badly and I really don’t believe children can learn anything but anger from this. Their parents failed them, so they then send these children away, to hopefully clean up the mess they did as parents. Knowing children and young people, this will never achieve anything good.
You aren't angry while you're being abused, to survive you get obedient, cheerful, and extremely organized. The falling apart is done after the abuse ends, but what happens if the abuse never fully ends?
There were many suicides and cases of drug addiction among the survivors of these schools. There is a disorder called CPTSD (complex post traumatic stress disorder, sometimes nicknamed childhood PTSD because it almost always stems from childhood events) that is also positively correlated to high risk of drug addiction and suicide. Would not surprise me if all the kids who went through this have PTSD now.
"Maybe you should bond with your children." -Stephanie Soo, an Icon ❤
This is illegal right? I can't even comprehend any parent doing this to a child. Were these parents lied to?
They should have gone through the program themselves first.
This is a hate crime.
And terrorism.
Agreed. But it is still legal. It should be a crime that sends both parents and teachers to life in prison. But there are even these kind of torture schools in the US still. Paris Hilton was sent to one in Utah. Parent's should not have legal right to give their kids as slaves to be abused by any person or institution. The fact there are legal loopholes that allow it to persist and for abusers to get almost no punishment for the harm they cause only invites more evil.
Not in China it’s not .
@@Allyourbase1990it's literally illegal in china... the organisers were persecuted. the idea of reformation schools are legal, and are even encouraged to an extent, but what they did was absolutely illegal. it's just that the government did jackshit about it, and probably didn't even investigate how this school was going (since there are tons of these types of "education/rehabilitation" centers) until it became a national controversy. also, they clearly did not give a shit about checking any of this before handing out licenses to run a school.
In the US the physical abuse is illegal, but the schools/camps themselves are not. They lie on paperwork, and tell the kids no one will believe them because they're troublemakers. For a long time that was true.
@@Allyourbase1990not in China, not in America. both countries still have these horrific torture camps for children today.
Seriously? Why is it always the most evil and disgusting people that barely get punished like 11months-2years is NOTHING compared to what they did to the kids
Corruption.
People in power feel sympathy cause they are same .
aslong as the kids get taken away from those parents' reach and the kids go to amazing homes i would say idgaf abt what the parents get just save the children
The judges probably be: the education of obedience? Oh, I can totally understand the need of that and I resonate deeply with you poor parents. Poor, poor headmaster. He probably went a little bit overboard but his intention is completely reasonable and understandable.
This is truly one of the most vile , sadistic, dis-heartening cases I’ve heard in a while. I wish all of the victims harmed peace and comfort for the rest of their lives💔
Jb prob has bad parents
Absolutely disgusting. It reminds me of when I was so very desperate because I thought my 16 year old runaway daughter was in so much danger that I was willing to have an "outreach program" abduct her and take her to a wilderness camp. I truly considered it because I was so worried about her. THANK GOD I never followed through, I learned later about the abuses these programs had. Some parents truly think they are helping. But when your child tells you about the abuse and you still think it was for their own good- Hope God forgives you.
im so glad you did your research! a lot of painful, traumatising cases could have been avoided if people didn't rush and did their proper research, it's so frustrating
Facts because God would be the only forgiving one
Abuduction itself is red sign
My mom was on her last hope when something finally reached my sister and helped. If it hadn't, my great-aunt, who is a psychologist, had recommended a therapeutic boarding school a couple hours away. It was something like 20k/year, more expensive than her expenses for all four years of undergrad, since she got a high level scholarship. But my mom was already starting to figure out how to manage to pay for it, maybe refinancing the house.
When your kid is struggling so much and beginning to get into dangerous actions, you start to get desperate. Every solution you knew about before this hasn't worked. The solutions you've found during this haven't worked either. It feels like nothing will. It creates a situation where everyone is really easy to prey on. Parents can be sucked in with promises of a magical solution that has worked for kids just like yours.
I'm really glad we found a legitimate solution that worked. I feel like we were lucky that this period was only three years or so. I know when it lasts into adulthood and they have full freedom and autonomy that it can be harder and last potentially their whole life, however long it is.
I love how parents say don't go with strangers but then pay for there kids to be kidnapped by strangers.
You have a gift Stephanie. You have the ability to tell a story in the most sensitive yet passionate way. You captivate us and make us feel the emotions of the story. I love how you use your platform to bring attention to injustice and tell stories that would otherwise never be told. Thank you for doing what you do. ❤
This is barbaric, horrific and heartbreaking. They should have had the parents go through at least 6 months of the same treatment their poor children received. I want to wrap my arms around these children but I can’t so I’m sending my love, support and good energy to each and every one of them. I pray for their healing and for peace. May God bless them. 😢🙏
This is horrific and the fact that those men are just out and about after what they did is outrageous
2 years in jail. ONLY 2 YEARS!!???????????
We live in a backwards world
@@NN-sp9tu china?😂
@@envy811 these "schools" are also in america :)
@@envy811 search "elan school" and "wilderness programs" and see just how much this is rampant in countries like USA as well
Jail is a luxury to what they provided their "students" or more properly prisoners.
You wouldn’t think to do this to babies or toddlers, neither to adults. But somehow it’s ok to do it teens/pre-teens. Why? Cause they’re “rebellious”. Cause sometimes they don’t abide to ‘rules’, ‘laws’. We need more hope, more education and less of these standardizations
one was 9...
And then we constantly tell them “your brains aren’t fully developed yet” but expect them to know everything and act perfectly
Honestly becoming an adult has showed me that adults can be more childish then teens and kids
@@kacklina that amazing 9 year old warrior girl was there at such young age because of her rebelliousness huh? i bet parents couldnt handle her self-will and just abandoned her.. poor little kid..
Actually look up yellow Deli. The christains cult starts hitting babies with a rod as early as 6 months old
This reminds me of the Elan school abuse story in the US which also charged an insane $50k per year tuition. AND some parents already hears the abuses but choose to send their kids anyway!
This is chillingly similar to the TTI (troubled teen industry). There is so many dark things in the tti but it is kept quiet. As someone who unfortunately went through multiple TTI facilities, I would love to see a video on the dark truth about it.
Big shout out to Stephanie and the whole Rotten Mango team for always putting out such thoughtful and dedicated content! We appreciate you! 💖
Yes!!! I love so much this channel it’s amazing the way she tells the stories and pictures and updates just can’t get enough ❤️❤️❤️🇨🇦
Guys can we make this blow up in tiktok or twitter?? This needs more public attention this is so crazy i can't stop crying hearing how this kids went through. Lets atleast help them and give them hope that their are people that is willing to help them and stand next to them.
There's a lot of accounts on tiktok talking about similar things (it's called the troubled teen industry, wilderness camps, etc.) happening, lots of survivors talk about their stories on tiktok.
Yes I agree!!!
I don't understand at all how a parent would allow the boarding school staff to tie their children's hands and feet and put them in the back of a van to take them to school and they didn't think this was weird !!!! Not even a mental patient is transferred to the hospital in this way !!!
Maybe they thought it will "toughen them up "
i think it's partially ignorance and partially intentional oversight. i dont think the video made this especially clear, but these types of schools are marketed primarily as correctional facilities that will solve all their problems (Internet addiction, drugs, alcohol, heck, even dating or talking back). all the kids who get sent there probably already have a strained relationship with their parent. also, the ones that send their kids to traditional "confucian" schools like this are probably deranged traditionalists anyway bc it's NOT normal. even though most parents (even the more abusive ones) would be despaired to find out their actions led to the horrific abuse of their kid, they would never accept responsibility. they would instead find all sorts of ways to rationalise and justify it to themselves, which may include gaslighting everyone including themselves, or when the evidence is too overwhelming, they start victim blaming. sometimes, they're even the one enacting the abuse, but they still find ways to justify their behavior. it's sick.
additionally, i honestly think that some of these parents just wanted to get rid of their kids, but you can't just drop a kid off on the street the way you would with a dog you no longer like bc that's TOO socially and morally unacceptable. not even talking about the legal repercussions, they'd feel guilty because it's too evil to justify. so they found a guilt free way to get rid of the kid, which is to pay money and send them to a "boarding school". it makes me particularly sad because i strongly believe that a good portion of these kids were neurodivergent and evil parents got sick of their "misbehavior"
They were using similar techniques lighther or heavier ones in religious schools/ summer schools all around the world. I can attest that in turkey many religious groups have courses/ summer schools that will psychologically destroy you. They are not the places of God. God would not approve them. They are trying to make you submissive not question the truth and distance you from real/unconditional love of God. I think these scandals are getting exposed in the age of aquarius because we are raising our frequency aligned with the new earth
I'm thinking about my son at his worse - mouthy, opinionated, entitled - but I can't separate that from his best - loving, defending his friends, funny and generous. I think sometimes parents neglect to see their children as whole people, and just focus on the things they want to change -- which hardly ever works. The best you can do is train them to use those powers for good, and pray they listen😅
Entitled is so common now.
Well parents need to stop looking at kids as property as well
Feels worse than prisons
I love your videos
right because there is no way this stuff is legal
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....I honestly feel sad for those who have went through this....
I’m about to cry…….how could these parents and staff do this to their own kids. They would rather make their own kids tortured, abused, and ruin them to show off to their lame friends than to give their kids a normal, healthy life. This is so inhuman and disgusting.
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I feel really bad for all the students after it all happened. They would have major problems trusting people and would probably hate their parents for sending them there. I hope they can recover fully ❤
No way any normal person could recover. I'd be fuming until I died.
@@0FreakShow0 unfortunately yes. They would have that trauma for life and no amount of help can fix it
@ville__why copy the comment above yours?
@@0FreakShow0I agree. Easiest way to get traumatised and struggle with PTSD for the rest of your life.
@soulsearcher7077 I noticed they did that to another comment someone made. They were sharing their personal story of surviving. So really weird for Ville to copy.
Also.. I just realised that some of these parents saw how their kids were taken.. And still thought it was a sanctuary
This story is just so insane to me. I never in a million years thought it was over video games or being on the internet. These parents basically destroyed their kids lives over this. What I would have loved to hear more about is, what happened to the family dynamics once the kids returned home. There just no way those kids returned home in a healthy state of mind, did any of the old kids move away immediately, did any of them lash out violently once home. There is just no way they went home better with that deprived level of abuse. I can’t believe this happened not that long ago
The cultural undertones of this academy is very similar to those in Africa. West Africa specifically since that’s where I’m from. Children are meant to be seen and not heard and obedience and submission to elders is highly revered there. These academies seemed to understand that a lot of the these parents were invested in adhering to those types of cultural expectations of their children and catered to that. When you look at it from this angle it’s not surprising why parents would pay so much money and even fight to keep these kinds of institutions open. A culture that believes a child should quiet their own voice, free spirit and willpower in favor of blind obedience and submission is a culture that doesn’t see children as human. I wish the parents would’ve taken a step back and appreciated the humanity and individuality of their child. It would’ve spared them a whole world of pain.
Both are from Colonial British times...
They don't want children they want subordinates
@@Cel3ere5 ughhh
The fact the people responsible didn't even face a harsh sentence and they are already out continuing to live their lives makes me so upset
Thank you for raising awareness. I feel so badly for the teens.