Prisons don't work (1/3)
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2018
- The Open University’s Dr David Scott explains why he believes Prison doesn’t work.
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I agree that prison doesn't work, but I don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE to fix someone's personality coercively. If it was, then rehabilitation would be an impossible goal; if you can't make someone stop being a criminal, any social system to make someone stop being a criminal can't work, so rehabilitation is impossible. Prisons should, if rehabilitation can't happen, focus on deterrent, which is what they do.While rehabilitation is one goal of prison, deterring first offenses is another goal, and it's odd that this professor totally ignores that purpose . Since more rehabilitative systems in other countries like Norway tend to work quite well to reduce recidivism, this professor is not empirically supported.
Then what does? What will make people feel justice has been served and save the criminals soul at the same time? Why should I care about the life of someone who has raped and murdered a child, for instance? Or killed their grandmother for money? Or raped and/or murdered a girl or guy they met in a bar? These victims had their lives taken so tell me why I should care about the murderer being bored and drugged out in prison? I bet those victims would have liked to have had an opportunity to be bored and/or drugged out, too. I'm OK with rehabbing a petty thief, drug dealer, or burger or whatever but not rapists, abusers of any child or vulnerable adult, pedophiles, and murderers. They can rot.
cause in the end we're all humans. you know you can never understand one person fully. i agree that a person like hitler or a rapist did a bad thing. but think about the situatiion or circumstance they did so the stuff they did. i'm not asking for forgiveness just a opportunity as everybody should have an equal part of it right? you never know what you would do if you were in anyone's shoes. a person is built by the society around them yes there may be born psychopaths but it's not inevitable. people are strange creatures morality and justice idk but you never know
so what the hell do you want us to do
Be more motivated to change society, for one. Prevention should always be the primary focus. We also need to change legislation that isn't effective....like the bullshit war on drugs. Divert that wasted money into programs that help economic conditions - which is directly correlated to crime. Prisons have to exist for the worst offenders, but they should be revamped to help those who will be getting out and living among us again. It's currently a form of modern slavery, and a for-profit system. It's inherently wrong from the ground up.
Can I have permission to use this video for a university project please? 🤞🏻
Yep as long as you credit the Open University :)
What should happen to a person who commits a crime?
the Norwegian model!! 😁
Prisons (in their current form) do not work. Although I believe incapacitation is a necessary form of punishment, an emphasis on rehabilitation in almost all cases would benefit society at large.
This is my take. I certainly think it can be morally justified to contain someone away from society where they pose an ongoing threat to others, but ideally we would focus on what is causing their behaviour and trying to rectify that. We also need to make reintegration back into society easier so that reoffending rates remain as low as possible
Whereas, Nordic countries have only 20% reoffending rate and they have much more complete rehabilitation system in their prisons.
Some criminals simply must be jailed for life!
Incarceration is not a deterrent when prison life is more comfortable than their homelife.
Thug1: Took a holiday.
Thug 2: Where'd ya go?
Thug1: Prison. Had cooks, maids, laundry service...
If the main purposes of UK prisons are to:
a) get criminals out of society in order to protect society
b) provide a humane but unpleasant deterrent to reduce recidivism
c) rehabilitate criminals.
Then it seems to me that:
a) they are fairly good at this but would be better if release on licence was abandoned
b) as Dr Scott says that 50% of prisoners reoffend within one year of release it is equally true to say that prisons reduce recidivism by 50%!
c) rehabilitation would probably be much more successful if there were more and better prison facilities and staff for training, education and counselling.
It really took two months for somebody to point out how illogical and factless this comment is? No, you cannot say it... It is NOT equally true to say that prison reduces recidivism by 50%.
What about years: two, three, four, etc.?
What about those in their first year that are on limited release or haven't yet been able to commit a crime?
How are councilors going to prevent a repeating hardened rapist/murderer from raping and killing again, talk; with milk and cookies? Writing letters to Santa, together?
While the scoundrels are locked up they are prevented from inflicting their criminal behaviour on the rest of us.
Unless someone is going to stay in jail forever, they will be exposed to the general population again one day. If people aren't 'fixed' so they don't do crimes again, they will only make more victims. Unless you think people should stay in jail forever for all crimes, you should want to rehabilitate people so they don't do future crimes. Though containing criminals is one benefit of prisons this video overlooked.
If there’s no deterrent then crime will explode! Do gooders are the real criminals in our society!🤮😂