The Alftand Expedition that Failed - The Elder Scrolls Lore

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  • Опубліковано 12 лис 2024

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  • @ImperialKnowledge
    @ImperialKnowledge  5 років тому +55

    Let me know what you think of my editing style with the character cut outs. I wanted to tell this story for a while now and I felt like this was a good way of doing it.

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  5 років тому +2

      I know, yes haha

    • @wiibrockster
      @wiibrockster 5 років тому +1

      I'd enjoy it if you kept this up

    • @Hamilgame
      @Hamilgame 5 років тому +1

      Really good. Good pace to follow the story and set context.

    • @chuckyhatchet4397
      @chuckyhatchet4397 5 років тому +1

      Very good editing style. Thank you for your hard work. Very enjoyable.

    • @lordsajaran1617
      @lordsajaran1617 5 років тому +1

      Beautiful work. Amazing story telling.
      😎
      🙏🏻

  • @rainy7106
    @rainy7106 5 років тому +166

    Tbh the dude formed a solid ass dungeon team, shame he couldn’t come back from the expedition but, hey he at least is notable enough in elder scrolls lore to be mentioned by Imperial Knowledge.

  • @ivongrey9047
    @ivongrey9047 5 років тому +62

    Tbh Sulla's Selfishness Caused alot of deaths among his crew, Sulla Screwed Sulla.

  • @MrHatman26
    @MrHatman26 5 років тому +91

    Imagine a book that explains all the lore in The Elder Scrolls right up to Skyrim...

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  5 років тому +30

      @@Son_of_Thunder_2000 it would in fact, be pretty awesome

    • @acolyte1951
      @acolyte1951 5 років тому

      There are new warcraft books (several) that explain the old age lore but i hate that because it changes the lore way too much for the shitty wow story, so I hope (because eso is canon and friendly to old lore) that it remains mostly the same. Maybe even make some story lines clearer/end them, but not add anything new that is major.

    • @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
      @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim 5 років тому +1

      I went to Barnes and Noble today and there was a Skyrim Library book.

    • @linguisticallyoversight8685
      @linguisticallyoversight8685 5 років тому

      Michael kirkbride coda
      Those three words will forever change your life have fun

    • @P.Whitestrake
      @P.Whitestrake 4 роки тому

      Man, if only I can find an official novel about Indoril Nerevar & how he rise to power until his demise in the hand of his wife & 2 friends. Or perhaps a novel about Tiber Septim & how he ascended to godhood. Those 2 lores always introgues me.

  • @jihno
    @jihno 5 років тому +47

    If I remember correctly Umana is also hostile towards the Dragonborn, even if you help her kill Sulla.

    • @DracoMalfoy-ys2mo
      @DracoMalfoy-ys2mo 4 роки тому +26

      Ikr, it would’ve been cool is if you saved her you could’ve had her as a companion and had at least one person that survived that tragedy

    • @noahtylerpritchett2682
      @noahtylerpritchett2682 2 роки тому

      @@DracoMalfoy-ys2mo there's a mod for that.

    • @Shahanshah_Xeno
      @Shahanshah_Xeno 2 роки тому +2

      @@noahtylerpritchett2682 whats it called?

  • @kingcotton659
    @kingcotton659 5 років тому +48

    Has anyone else realized that the island of the imperial city looks like a smaller version of Tamriel

  • @Lowclasswarrior778
    @Lowclasswarrior778 4 роки тому +28

    Thats enough backstory to make a movie about lol a group of people go into a dwarven ruin only for them to be killed and picked off. The movie ends with them all dead. Its kinda like a horror movie

    • @GothicLeviathan
      @GothicLeviathan 4 роки тому +4

      Fr, I was just going through it and man it creeped me out so bad

    • @mikeynth7919
      @mikeynth7919 3 роки тому

      Agatha Christie did something like it in "And Then There Were None."

    • @BesoffenerIslamist
      @BesoffenerIslamist 6 місяців тому +2

      That's "The Descent", minus the dwemer ruin part

    • @Philip7710
      @Philip7710 6 місяців тому +1

      I love how you can make any style of movie you want in the elder scrolls world. They should really start making lotr styled movies

  • @wiibrockster
    @wiibrockster 5 років тому +36

    Aftand is actually one of my favourite dungeons in Skyrim. I like the story behind it.

  • @retroambassador2945
    @retroambassador2945 5 років тому +28

    I always found it unfortunate that you couldn't save umana and have her join as a companion. It would be a good choice between saving her or keeping her unique shield.

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  5 років тому +10

      Yep, always strook me as odd she attacked you too, like sulla

  • @dagenight4150
    @dagenight4150 3 роки тому +12

    My God, I completely overlooked this and never realized there was a story going on here. I just thought it was some random treasure hunters or bandits with no depth. Thats a really cool bit of lore though.

  • @twistedvtuber9894
    @twistedvtuber9894 5 років тому +27

    *cuts to me mashing the exit elevator with a giant plate and skipping the entirety of Alftand*

  • @raulcezarpereira6710
    @raulcezarpereira6710 4 роки тому +9

    My god.. this reminded me of one simular case in Russia.. The diatlov pass incident..

  • @acolyte1951
    @acolyte1951 5 років тому +32

    I heard that there was another continent called seventy six and that was a failure... tough times eh

  • @madman6962
    @madman6962 5 років тому +18

    One of my absolute- no- my ABSOLUTE favorite bit of environmental storytelling in Elder Scrolls history. As much as I think Morrowind is better than Skyrim in general storytelling and respects the lore more, Skyrim has*this ruin*.
    The first time I played Skyrim eight years ago I did it main quest only. Gotta say, I'm happy I did.
    Bethesda seemed to want to introduce concepts and locations like ruins, cities, and mines in that way exactly. The manner in which places line up just made sense that way. I've since moved past that and go wherever I want, but I always initiate the main quest on a new save for *this. one. ruin.* I explore no other Dwemer ruins before it. And you can tell that Bethesda intended it that way, because the reveal of a Dwarven Ruin through a simple ice cave and Blackreach right after is not only incredible for a first time player- but the reveal of the Falmer is the true core of Alftand's purpose in Skyrim.
    To be able to pick up the pieces of a mystery like the disappearance of the men and women who went on this expedition through a drug addict rambling madly to himself over his brother's corpse and journals in the hands of dead bodies or just lying on a table- their owners nowhere to be seen- scribblings of strange creatures with a hunched, vaguely humanoid shape- god it's such a good buildup if you have no idea what you're in for.

  • @gerardclarke1001
    @gerardclarke1001 5 років тому +73

    I wonder how come characters in lore say they've been stuck in a cave/ruins for day or weeks at a time yet we re able to clear them out in a day or less

    • @victormanyeruke9997
      @victormanyeruke9997 5 років тому +43

      Same reason you can walk across the map in under 30 minutes, it be boring if everything was scaled accurately

    • @ukkothedwarf1259
      @ukkothedwarf1259 5 років тому +2

      Thats because player characters are prisoners who are free of fate and disappear after the event they were supposed to stop/create, or in short are op as sh!t

    • @HoundofOdin
      @HoundofOdin 5 років тому +16

      @@victormanyeruke9997 As someone who has played ES: Daggerfall, I can attest to the validity of this statement. Not that Daggerfall is a bad game, it's actually great, but taking days to get from one place to another on horseback without fast travel is irritating.

    • @dr.elijah7742
      @dr.elijah7742 4 роки тому +2

      You have to take into consideration the games time, much as like fallout or TES (or any other games in general) have a clock which scales up in real time depending on how it goes.
      Don't understand? Well basically for example if your playing The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim and you played for 10 minutes (of real life time) the game has a X2 mulitplier which makes said game go faster, (hence, why night goes by quickly in Skyrim or any other TES game)

    • @jamesmccloud7535
      @jamesmccloud7535 3 роки тому +1

      @@dr.elijah7742 Yes in their world time is going on as normal, while we're playing, time runs very fast.

  • @Pupsterization122
    @Pupsterization122 3 роки тому +6

    That girl named valie who’s dead body on the falmer table which shows she was tortured is fucking horrifying lol

    • @noahtylerpritchett2682
      @noahtylerpritchett2682 2 роки тому

      She most likely was raped too

    • @Pupsterization122
      @Pupsterization122 2 роки тому

      @@noahtylerpritchett2682 is there anything that implies that? Thought they all got stripped of clothing

  • @wiibrockster
    @wiibrockster 5 років тому +7

    I quite like this story. It made a nice little subplot while you head to Blackreach during the main questline. I don't know why I like stories of expaditions going wrong.

  • @theunseen896
    @theunseen896 3 роки тому +3

    Wow i hope this chamnel gets to a million subs its very informative and really answers all my questions regarding elder scrolls lore

  • @memeshort7189
    @memeshort7189 3 роки тому +5

    If Sulla didnt snap at the end then he would have been victorious
    He truly rediscovered Blackreach

  • @user-tt5hz8hm5l
    @user-tt5hz8hm5l 2 роки тому +1

    I love this story, its such a tragic story this is the first time ive encountered this place and actually read the story behind it

  • @closed2435
    @closed2435 3 роки тому +3

    God the story of the expedition to the dark belly of skyrim, I love this location more then anything in skyrim.

    • @LandStrider23
      @LandStrider23 3 роки тому +1

      Minus the disgusting stinky falmer and those repulsive chaurus

  • @cstains5543
    @cstains5543 5 років тому +5

    Could just be that the explorer was a scholar or former student at the College of Winterhold rather than an actual spy for the College. That place isn't exactly the most organized college I've ever seen.

  • @ZephrusPrime
    @ZephrusPrime 5 років тому +1

    Outstanding investigative reporting my friend! I never pieced all this together as I always just rush in and hurry to get the scroll. This was a great story the devs made for this quest.

  • @blijham1834
    @blijham1834 5 років тому +2

    Great video! Also I think the cutouts are good as they help you visualize the characters involved. Keep it up!

  • @patricialavery8270
    @patricialavery8270 2 роки тому

    I suppose the High Elf might be a Summerset Shadow but she might even have been a Thalmor operative.The Thalmor were snooping around Skyrim,as we see with Ancano, Estormo and Valmir.Any rumor of an Imperial trying to find something big might have alarmed them and they could no doubt easily find a magically talented individual to plant,even if she wasn't actually part of them.

  • @Mabra51
    @Mabra51 4 роки тому +7

    If only he had Septimus' key to blackreach.

    • @mikeynth7919
      @mikeynth7919 3 роки тому +5

      Usually I go through Mzinchaleft so I can pick up Mjoll's sword - stack one quest on top of another.
      Now Alftand, I could never understand why they attacked the very obvious non-Falmer that shows up and says "Hello."

    • @darkslayer1161
      @darkslayer1161 Рік тому +1

      Cuz he probably thought we were another thunder stealer. After all, the Khajiit he left by the entrance didn't show up with you when you see him, so he probab!y thought we killed them, and that we are there to finish the job

    • @twiddlerat9920
      @twiddlerat9920 9 місяців тому

      @@darkslayer1161 A shame to be honest, i wish bethesda added in an alternate ending to the expedition where you could use the calm spell on Sulla and Umana

  • @thomaslister3314
    @thomaslister3314 5 років тому +1

    Glad you’re doing this topic, good stuff!

  • @Doralga
    @Doralga 5 років тому +3

    Good info vid I love when the imperials are focused on something other than the dumb civil war and the college could use a lot more agents then that one explorer and yes I know the empire wasn't directly involved just something to note

    • @dutchpatriot17
      @dutchpatriot17 5 років тому

      They also had an expedition in Nchuand-Zel, the ruins underneath Markarth.

    • @Doralga
      @Doralga 5 років тому

      @@dutchpatriot17 that one isn't Calcemo dungeon is it

    • @dutchpatriot17
      @dutchpatriot17 5 років тому +1

      @@Doralga It is, the one where you have to kill that spider.

  • @giorgosgeorgiou1702
    @giorgosgeorgiou1702 5 років тому +3

    I will show a video about the Dwemer ruins without any one only Dwemers and the Inner Sectum with Falmers and restore without mods both

  • @sgooopy0901
    @sgooopy0901 2 роки тому

    Reest in peace J'darr and J'zhar :( they make me cri each time :

  • @jacopomazzo4949
    @jacopomazzo4949 5 років тому +2

    I see this and I killed Sulad and Umana like 30 seconds AGO

  • @ezzelgendy9748
    @ezzelgendy9748 2 роки тому

    Damn this fascinating 💜 i enjoyed this one

  • @Tamanini
    @Tamanini 5 років тому +5

    Lol in my game at least Umana always kills Sulla

    • @oblivion.walker
      @oblivion.walker 4 роки тому

      Not mine tho...this is interesting

    • @H.K.5
      @H.K.5 3 роки тому

      Sulla usually wins because he can shoot fireballs.

  • @giorgosgeorgiou1702
    @giorgosgeorgiou1702 5 років тому +1

    Has anyone see the Falmers in Elder Scroll online and something else how the hell the Falmers go to the Dwemer ruins like Mzulft it suppose to go in the up ruins of Blackreach and also how the hell Falmers go out from Blackreach it suppose to be secure there is up a thing a portal you put the Attunement Sphere in each of the 3ruins have portals Alftand, Mzinchaleft and Raldbthar and down in Blackreach there is buttons to get out but also is secure when you get in the surface of Skyrim to get in Skyrim you must activate the control also in Blackreach there are Centurions there is no way the Falmers escape

  • @gothic3theageofwar565
    @gothic3theageofwar565 5 років тому

    Dammit every time I see the vanilla imperial armor I literally vomit. It’s so horrible without mods!!! What was Bethesda thinking when designing that fucking armor?! They should have just take the one from Oblivion and keep it for every game!

    • @twiddlerat9920
      @twiddlerat9920 9 місяців тому

      It's based off of the Morrowind imperial armor. The armor from oblivion looks far worse in my opinion

  • @JustForFUN-nl8pe
    @JustForFUN-nl8pe 5 років тому +3

    Can you live from your UA-cam money? Just question and thanks for this informational vid

    • @ImperialKnowledge
      @ImperialKnowledge  5 років тому +7

      I had to for a while, but its by far not enough to cover expenses. I am currently hoping to get into a new job :)
      But no, youtube money at my size is by faaaaar not enough to cover monthly expenses.

    • @wiseferret4745
      @wiseferret4745 5 років тому +2

      The real money is in streaming. There are thousands of losers who will throw hundreds of dollars at you for being better than them.

    • @dickwatson5691
      @dickwatson5691 5 років тому +3

      Imperial Knowledge goodluck on the job hunt man

  • @bluedemion7207
    @bluedemion7207 5 років тому

    this is one of the dwemer ruining i like more then whiterun itself

  • @Marvinuser
    @Marvinuser Рік тому

    whenever i see that clavicus_mora my brain starts going:
    hermaeus vile? molagh mora - hermaeus bal - mehrunes vile - clavicus dagon
    markay, jara, zakatosh, denithar and sibella, tendar, kulianos and sinareth... hor's balls blessing of the defines!
    s'azura, noethiah and bephala's blessings on you! shadow hide you... mockturnal watches from the shadow of ithis
    (only an elder scrolls fan will be able to decipher this lol)

  • @trendydwarf3747
    @trendydwarf3747 3 роки тому

    Leuk man

  • @SikkeOst
    @SikkeOst 5 років тому +4

    Keep going! Your videos are great, even if youre an imp*rial.

    • @Hixx367
      @Hixx367 4 роки тому +2

      Get out of here you racist N'wah :)

  • @Justanobody8472
    @Justanobody8472 5 років тому +1

    After playing eso I highly side with the dominion, I hope in ts6 they give me the choice to side with them in dismantling the mundus